lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[cerulean hemlock]

And I cannot sleep 😭

[sweet pine]

is this 3k roadkill?

[paper sail]

I do have over 3k Roadkill, but it is just 2x CC strung together 😛

[sweet pine]

ah

i thought for a moment that we can almost no CC downtime with high enough roadkill

after seeing your CCs

[paper sail]

I haven't timed recently, but I think I'm at (or under) 50% downtime

trending toward 8minutes running, 6 minutes cooldown

AHHH FINALLY THE GRUMBLO TOOL

[haughty flower]

when i zone into w5m1 from the town i lose a bunch of damage, anyone know why?

[paper sail]

Bad accuracy

[cerulean hemlock]

Squire overaccuracy

[haughty flower]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

frick

o lol ur name

thats mega funny

[cerulean hemlock]

Thanks for the summon 😉

[cerulean hemlock]

Had it for 6+ years

[warm parcel]

That’s one A for each year!

[sweet pine]

39k def on vman

[warm parcel]

You’re legally obligated to add an A next year.

[sweet pine]

he's ready for crystal w6

[cerulean hemlock]

XD no

[haughty flower]

so DK is just good at farming, not clearing right?

[cerulean hemlock]

DK good for farming crystal drops!

#1183482341474172938 This guide might help

Very good mobbing, depending on the map

[haughty flower]

woah, this implies im not a complete noob anymore!

[fast grail]

someone say defense?

[cerulean hemlock]

Anyways, I'll head off to bed now! Good night!

[cerulean hemlock]

Congrats 😎

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep! You ;3

Gn for real now, XD

[sweet pine]

camp gonna talk to me when i reach 1k

[shy flame]

any advice on improving my active ES hampter farm? I think I'm currently averaging 500 per 24 hours, which is enough to take care of all non vials needs within a week, but like, it could be a lot better I bet

[paper sail]

Sounds pretty fast to me. I finished all my Hampter grinding back at 10/hr

[shy flame]

I used forbidden techniques to keep my ES from lagging constantly at hampters (filtering out the other normal drop and the potion drop)

[fast grail]

[fast grail]

Wonder why my luck is so trash in comparison

[paper sail]

I was in no way optimised at that point lol

Was still in skilling / exp setup from coldseekers

[pale crag]

You getting 500 per day

Wtf

[sweet pine]

if you def high enough, the mobs actually become friendly and stopped hurting you

[steady beacon]

Pretty glad I held back on depositing my onyx statues!

W6 statues on launch should give them a nice boost.

[fast grail]

Hopefully getting to that point. Actually should be past the point of the defense required for last map of w6 based upon scaling from previous worlds

At least on actual defense setups on DK

[shy flame]

that's leaving my computer on 24 hours a day with every possible drop other than like statues, hampters, and upgrade stone filtered out

[fast grail]

Even on non-defense setups actually

[pale crag]

Whats your dr ?

And damage

[fast grail]

Think my main DK is at like 1.1 or 1.2m defense on normal dr farming setu

[shy flame]

idk like 12x DR

[pale crag]

12

[shy flame]

pretty sure speeding up ES is more about preventing lag than raw stats

[zealous niche]

If I max out the vman str/agi/wis talents, put points into them on all my chars then swap back, do I get to keep everybody overleveled?

…I need to level my talent point bubbles again

[paper sail]

Small reminder that those Vman talents do give +base stats too. They're worth keeping leveled if you have the points for them

[sweet pine]

i'd set my goal on 2k Fmj, so my boys will never fall on ground again

specially vman, those crystals are all meanie

[fast grail]

My goal is 25k

Or whatever is needed for 10m defense

[sweet pine]

GS def

personal dm lava to change def to green if beyond 10m

[fast grail]

That is the plan

[steady beacon]

Scoli, what are your thoughts on Gaming upgrades? I know w5 isn't on your agenda yet for the auto review, but any suggestions on what to target?
I'm at the point where my next fertilizer upgrade costs 400M red bits, but my sprout growth time upgrade only costs 20M red (18min interval). Should I be dumping more into that now instead of bit value?

[fast grail]

Someone needs to post one of my screenshots next time lava is around in genchat and tell him that this is normal defense for late game people currently

[zealous niche]

Yeah, though I did respec into the wis one fully and grab the 1b sample dream today, so that’s why I was thinking about it

Don’t have enough vman talent points to level them all fully yet

[paper sail]

18minute interval means you aren't using Kitty Rock

[zealous niche]

Probably overdue for a speedrun though

[fast grail]

Dont think ive done a speedrun since like 2 weeks after vman release

[steady beacon]

Also, what's the max value of the evolution chance? I'm at 20.1% evolve chance. The upgrades are cheap, but give practically no bonus. Is it worth dumping more points into that?

[zealous niche]

Was a good tip thanks scoli

And thanks for the autoreview too

[paper sail]

I'm certainly not a gaming expert. I keep the fertilizer cost a bit higher and just kinda.. pretend to balance it

[sweet pine]

are you having enough point for lvl 245 each base stats for skilling preset? or still respect after

[steady beacon]

True! I wanted higher bits value, because I can't check every few hours. Would it still make more sense to use it?

[sweet pine]

saw people at 76 portals on leaderboard

[paper sail]

If you have Chem plants unlocked, never turn off kitty rock again

[rough wasp]

We got it

[steady beacon]

Interesting. So a not-quite 10 to 1 balance.

[rough wasp]

126B eff from getting it to 210

[fast grail]

from how much?

[rough wasp]

8.75T->8.876T

[paper sail]

The scaling on it more than makes up for it, tbh. I have 6x faster growth for 3x less bits. Then count in the fact the evolutions are 3x more bits by default, some higher some lower. Basically if you get an evo during one of those 5 extra growth cycles, you broke even. If you get 2, you made a profit.

[fast grail]

ah, so im not missing too much (assuming thats supposed to be a T)

[rough wasp]

yea

once i get idle skilling trophy

[fast grail]

My guild bonus is low so not getting that for a while

[shy flame]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-fact-over-the-garden-wall-gif-8241594

[paper sail]

But how many ladles?

[sweet pine]

are you in solo guild too?

[rough wasp]

i have no clue

[fast grail]

[rough wasp]

im playing another game too

[fast grail]

Not solo but group of friends that i play all the other games with

[paper sail]

I'm planning to stop at 350 for round number

[fast grail]

I have most GP though

[sweet pine]

[vivid radish]

crazy how minimal the difference is lol

in % that is

[paper sail]

Yep.. That's gaming for you

[vivid radish]

[paper sail]

Still can't believe this skill was named gaming

[worldly sinew]

lava should make a gaming skill inside the gaming skill

[fast grail]

There already is, Pong

[vivid radish]

there is

[paper sail]

POiNG, you mean

Legally distinct, do not sue

[worldly sinew]

he should make a gaming skill inside pong then

[fast grail]

He needs to take gaming outside and execute it (by giving monumental bonuses in w6)

[paper sail]

CCD please hurry up

[rough wasp]

Almost 9B

[paper sail]

Almost math

[tawny jetty]

getting there for sure man

[rough wasp]

oops

[stoic void]

so should i be decking everyone out in divine gear or stick with mostly molten till we see what w6 has in store?

[paper sail]

I would stop at Molten

Very simple to bump Molten to Kruk if needed later

Going backwards.. Well, that's a whole new set of armor lol

[tawny jetty]

I hope he continues with the boss farming as armor standard i like that

it makes sense

[torpid umbra]

Two in a week?

quality crop job, don't me

[paper sail]

Everyone scared to just post the whole screen

I found the 1 sanic ring, verified it was on slab, and then turned that crap off again

[torpid umbra]

i think its infinite starred

[fierce oracle]

infinite doesnt drop the ring

I'd hate it so much if it did

[eternal wasp]

Ah.. yes. Meth

[knotty helm]

Prayers quick ref lava plz

[paper sail]

194 CS Bullets completed

[chrome tiger]

what happens to the lowest leveled character 50% bonus if you have multiple characters tied at the lowest level?

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

Can confirm. I have 3 at exactly 500 and none of them get the fat bonus any longer

[chrome tiger]

ballsacks

[knotty helm]

I assume the code is Second lowest<Lowest
So thus
if
Second Lowest=Lowest Its false

[fierce oracle]

one more guy at div 155

[cyan mantle]

Should I lvl this with w5 stones with a barb for extra accuracy or wizard for extra damage

[zealous niche]

If you're missing by the time you're getting to W5, you need to work on alchemy

Damage is the stat you hurt for the most and for the longest

Level Shaquracy if you need accuracy

[zealous niche]

Why are you pushing them so high?

[fierce oracle]

extra talent levels from arctis minor link

[zealous niche]

Ahh, is 155 a breakpoint for that?

[fierce oracle]

yeah, 155 div and 1440 big P(yellow bubble) is one of the breakpoints

[zealous niche]

Did somebody math it to have those as optimal breakpoints?

because I'd imagine if div was higher, Big P could be lower and vice versa

[fierce oracle]

I mean, yeah, there was some math but idk the exact values

[paper sail]

Welp. One more round of traps

[zealous niche]

So close!

[paper sail]

Particle Clicks are much easier to come by than Div levels

[zealous niche]

That was my thinking

My chars are sitting about 120 with just Tranqi in the background though, so it's not too bad

[raven fog]

Guys to get 2000 kills on killroy should i focus nob respawn or timer

[fierce oracle]

mostly timer

[zealous niche]

Timer was the advice I got given

It also heavily depends on map

[paper sail]

1441 Big P and 126 divinity are crossing me over to +16 Arctis Sadly no Arctis gains between 126 and 155

[raven fog]

What is the ratio

[zealous niche]

My max is at 1470 at the moment, but I normally get about 800-900 for my killroy attempts at the moment

Don't know, just know that bubo with a good map blitz everybody else

[paper sail]

Respawn is garbage in Killroy. I wouldn't even put 2 points in it. All time, all day, every day

[zealous niche]

Can't remember which mob it was either ><

[fierce oracle]

finally

[zealous niche]

Whenever mage pops up my bubo gets called to the front lines, otherwise it's just waiting out the timer for the other classes

[fierce oracle]

omni just gave me 30 sailing procs until he was kind enough to give me a refinery one

[paper sail]

Just checked my 2 omnis and got 2x cooking

[zealous niche]

Cooking procs hurt when you get lots of ladles

[zealous niche]

So you're all eldritch artifacts now?

[fierce oracle]

I've had all eldritch artifacts for like 4-5 months now

so sailing procs hurt 10x more than cooking/breeding

[zealous niche]

That's just as bad as a cooking proc for you then

[fierce oracle]

yeah

[zenith cape]

So does that mean it costs 573 times MORE or am I just sleep deprived?

[zealous niche]

Nah, you got it right

costs 573x to get 245x salt

[paper sail]

Sailing probably 3rd worst for me. Cooking < Breeding < Sailing < Gaming < Printer < Refinery

[fierce oracle]

another sailing proc

[zealous niche]

I still can't keep up with the void bars for refinery ><

[zenith cape]

Do you really use salt like that in the end game? I just beat w5 the other day

[zealous niche]

Vials

[paper sail]

I'm surprised to see you have a smoler red salt rank than me

[fierce oracle]

my red salt was really bad for a long time

[zenith cape]

My salt tank is like 6 or something low

[zealous niche]

what

[fierce oracle]

I neglected it for really long

[paper sail]

Red Salts give build SPEED (which gives Rate, EXP, and Flaggy)

[zealous niche]

Quick, Thubie, scare jackal into salts

[fierce oracle]

I dont have good enough salts for that

[paper sail]

Somewhat a meme, but also DK damage

[zenith cape]

Oh it's not 6 but it is low

[zealous niche]

how many forge slots do you need to dedicate to the void bars to keep it running?

[paper sail]

It is impossible to keep running passively after even 2 or 3 ranks

[fierce oracle]

I keep my nullo running mostly with bars that come from colo 4

[zealous niche]

Damn

[paper sail]

You have to spend candy / archer claims / colo4 I guess

[zealous niche]

So greenstack my bars and vials then put void into all slots

[zenith cape]

Ya I have no idea what I'm doing with salts lol. All my printers are busy with snake skins atm

I remember seeing the refinery guide thing so I just kept mine low

[fierce oracle]

it feels so weird being back at DK after like one entire month mostly on active BM

I just look at my BR and its 3x higher

[zealous niche]

Use this: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

If you use Idleon Efficiency

[untold lintel]

the autoreview is just so rude

[zealous niche]

It'll give you balanced salts and refinery advice

[zealous niche]

I beg to differ

[paper sail]

I've gone out of my way to make it not rude

Yeah exactly. Tells you that you're the best like 20x

[zealous niche]

It even gives me hearts

[untold lintel]

havent used in abit, it used to be very mean to me

[fierce oracle]

just make a toggle for rude version

[zealous niche]

Is the problem you need to git gud and you're feeling guilty?

[untold lintel]

duh

[crisp pasture]

It's only rude when you purposefully neglect an area 🙂

[paper sail]

I actually started on it, but put on backburner to do real things instead of meme things

[zenith cape]

Does it tell me exactly what to do? Cuz I tried using the cog shelf one and I had no idea what I was looking at

https://tenor.com/view/milk-gif-15983354

Just this

[fierce oracle]

well, fair enough

[zealous niche]

That's my current refinery advice

[raven fog]

how hard is it to get 200 green stacks

[zealous niche]

Very

Been working on it since equinox came out and I'm at 177

[zenith cape]

Oh nice

[raven fog]

dam

[raven fog]

there is a guide right in tips and tricks

[zealous niche]

Need a lot of active time to get the greenstacks

Yeah

There is, doesn't mean it's quick to get the items

[raven fog]

well so its easy but time consuming

i assum lots of qust items

[zealous niche]

Don't need any quest items, but they're usually easier to get than some of the other greenstacks

[raven fog]

what if i alr did all the quests

[zealous niche]

And W6 will probably make it a lot easier

[rough wasp]

and maxed

[zealous niche]

Woo

[raven fog]

105 dam

[knotty helm]

What quests are the boss quests for each world? Like what gives the daily boss keys

[zealous niche]

They're the NPC's standing outside the boss doors

[knotty helm]

Right but like all of them or only like the first half

[zealous niche]

Dog Bone, the genie, and the bubble thing

Don't recall

They tell you in their dialogue though

[knotty helm]

I am unclear lol

[zealous niche]

Do quests until the keys drop if you don't want to read

[paper sail]

Off the top of my head, you need all the quests before the final quest that gives their token

Why he die for W1, I'm Blue dabadedada for W2, Veyebing for W3

[torpid umbra]

Is there a single image or something that shows what chars prioritize what for sampling?

obviously I understand skill -> sample that, but as far as vman and what idiots to give up in order to print drops vs mats

[paper sail]

Depends on stage of the game. Generally 3x log, 2x ore, 1x fish, 2x Bugs, Vman and BM on monster mats

Can go more niche with BB printing Copper and Iron ores if strong enough to hourly click still. Some people have BM print Flies or Oak Logs for atom generation

[torpid umbra]

Sample enough to auto-print salts, then focus oak logs/copper for atoms right?

[zealous niche]

That's definitely a decent strategy

Not the only one people do though

[paper sail]

If you don't buy into hourly / semi-hourly clicks, sure, that's fine

[torpid umbra]

yeah i'm not gonna be doing 2 minute hourly clicks

[paper sail]

🤷 It's a lot of progress

[zealous niche]

Then set-up for auto printing, I'd use the other slots to get resources to 1050M as well

[torpid umbra]

this is also an idle game at the end of the day, at least for me

[zealous niche]

QoL too Scoli, I haven't done hourly clicks either

just take my 50 atom levels in the morning and that's my alchemy

[paper sail]

That's much too lazy imo, but to each their own 😛

[torpid umbra]

Regardless, thanks for the tips both of yall 🙂

[zealous niche]

Might look at what oak logs can get me now that I have 1B samples

[paper sail]

I hate hourly clicks being a thing though. Wish we had automatic upgrades somehow

[zealous niche]

Yeah

Pick a resource or two, and funnel them into a particular alchemy bubble

Auto ranking salts

Gaming nugget digs

[paper sail]

I'm not nearly active enough / don't have Doot for the true sweaty hourly fishing. I do get probably 8-10 natural hourly checks per day though

[humble garnet]

@paper sailis this gay flag on ur pfp or anything else

[zealous niche]

Hourly threads, that's the goal 😛

[paper sail]

It is a pride flag

[fierce oracle]

Nah hourly fishing is just burnout speedrunning

[paper sail]

Agreed. No way I could sustain that

[zealous niche]

What makes fishing hourlies more intense?

[paper sail]

Different kind of fishing, haha

[fierce oracle]

Every hour you cycle through all 9 afk chars fishing for omni 3d printer procs

And click the bubbles when it happens

[zealous niche]

Oooh

not doing hourly clicks on bubbles using fish

Fishing for omni procs

[fierce oracle]

Yeah

[paper sail]

Meh. Hourly Nails is still more beneficial

[zealous niche]

For chopping bubble?

[paper sail]

Yeah

Better than Lotto Skills is going to give

[fierce oracle]

Luck bubble for .01x DR every decade is def better

[paper sail]

My Lotto Skills is already 1500, and my LUK is sitting at 12.6k on DK

It ain't budging for a loooong time

Alright overdue bedtime for me. Night y'all

[rough wasp]

[whole slate]

i have killed kruk so now im working on my dk's div cuz lvl 2 is disgusting every1 else as it like 15 minimum except my bb so i have to continue this bull shit for longer

[noble sable]

Is dk better than bubo on money Farm?

[whole slate]

early game active dk mid game to late game bubo wins easily

[south gull]

Dk is better than bubo, yes

[eternal mantle]

woooooooo

[whole vine]

what is recommended 8th char if you have 2 of each and maestro?

[fast grail]

Last ones for 8/9/10 generally are extra DK, ES, and SB, as for which order, dpeends on what you need at the time, base it off what you feel you are lacking

[rough wasp]

Some people also drop the 2nd SB for another warrior like BB

[ripe notch]

I went extra bb because.... well cooking

[zealous niche]

Does anybody know for the royal worm quest where you need 5k personal damage, can you get that over multiple attempts at the TD?

[sleek ermine]

Pretty sure its 1 run, just use bubo and youre chilling

[zealous niche]

I want the quest on my Vman for the quest special talents

I'm on track to doing it, but was wondring just incase

[prisma drift]

Im fairly certain it’s not one TD

[zealous niche]

Hm, well, I'll try two if I end up failing to get it in one on a char

[orchid ferry]

yeah should have done that earlier ...

[rough wasp]

What happend to sleep Scoli

[vapid warren]

Is there a glitch with Total Build Rate?

[proven iron]

I wonder if i still have time to finish w5 if i'm still at lamplars.

[normal minnow]

anyone have the active ability tab for dk?

[obtuse minnow]

are there any particular areas good for cranium cooking in w5? I have like 150-400m damage on bubo

[normal minnow]

i think best for cc wld be tremor worms but idk it's just stuff i've read in the chat

just take that with a grain of salt

[south gull]

Tremor and citringes, but he doesn't have the damage yet

[vapid warren]

@obtuse minnow maybe clams?

[south gull]

w4 cc is at flombs

[vapid warren]

@obtuse minnow oh shit my b you said w5... uhhh

I'd say citrus

[normal minnow]

how much hp do tremors have

[vapid warren]

You want something you can 1 hit with your poison

[obtuse minnow]

fair, a bit off then

[vapid warren]

If you cant then i know in citrus you can manually place down the auras, and cover most of the map

[normal minnow]

that's alotta hp

[south gull]

This is the next best cc map

[vapid warren]

If you manually put down auras its not too bad

[normal minnow]

oh you have the prayers equiped

[south gull]

no

[normal minnow]

huh?

my citringe has 420m hp

[vapid warren]

Thats the real hp

Oops sorry didnt mean to flash my cards hahah

[south gull]

I unequipped them lol

[normal minnow]

my cards

[vapid warren]

Thank you for making me feel better <3

[scarlet cypress]

I think Lava said he Will announce release Date 2 weeks Prior to release, so youre not put of time yet

[normal minnow]

[south gull]

Here, doesn't really matter but you can just copy mine

[normal minnow]

cool thanks

[vapid warren]

Okay now you're making me feel a little too good.

[normal minnow]

my bb is lvl 300 + with barely 30m dmg

i mean bubo

dont neglect alchemy kids

[vapid warren]

Man I took such a different route than everyone else in this game lol

[warm kelp]

Which one did you take

[vapid warren]

I pushed all my characters together pretty much. All my characters are around lvl 400, i've been at w5 for 2-3 months or so. All my characters have lvl 75+ in all skills

[cobalt nymph]

aaaaaaa almost there

[vapid warren]

It was very well rounded. I've seen a lot of people kinda just rush 1 character; Like I never build chizoar armor, cuz i knew it didnt build into anything. Same with troll (until i realized you need it)

[cobalt nymph]

i completely skilled chizoar ye and rushed my es to w5

[normal minnow]

i just made chizoar cause i dont have enough for troll

[south gull]

Btw, what did you mean with this? What's the "glitch"

[cobalt nymph]

i'm assuming they mean that it displays different depending on what char you look at it with

[vapid warren]

My understanding was the total build rate was all build rate across my account. However when i hop between characters that number changes....

[south gull]

If you're talking about the build rate randomly switching, this is intended

[south gull]

That's normal

[vapid warren]

Weird....

[south gull]

When you're on a warrior, you have more build rate

[vapid warren]

So your build rate is based off your active player?

[south gull]

Pretty much yeah

[vapid warren]

Then when you're afk.... how does it calculate?

[south gull]

The first char you login

[vapid warren]

Well damn that makes me wanna main DK.

:O

[south gull]

If it's a warrior, you get more build rate for that afk session

[vapid warren]

This entire time, damn

[quiet viper]

when doing new prints, would the optimal way with divinities be to set 9 characters to goharut and the one getting the print on snehebatu?

[halcyon shoal]

Is that a rift counter?

[cobalt nymph]

yes

[quiet viper]

cheerds

-d

[cobalt nymph]

the afk 5 mill kills

i don't want to sleep before its done haha

[whole slate]

u can even do it in other td's

[vapid warren]

I know that feel all too well....

The feeling of regret at my 7am job xD

[whole slate]

i should work on rift 15 some time

[cobalt nymph]

im working my way towardcs eldritch

[vapid warren]

Nice, I unlocked that a week or so ago. I want my ruby cards ):

[cobalt nymph]

ye ruby cards gonna take you a while xD

[vapid warren]

):

I literally am trapped on one of the "kill all mobs before respawn"

[quiet viper]

haven't done new prints in several months, did them at like.. i bet one printer go brrr after new prints will yield more resources than all printer go brrrr last months ;D

[vapid warren]

which is depressing. lol

[cobalt nymph]

i got stuck on the one where i needed 180 orb kills on my DK

i then didn';t toucxh it for 2 months

and now im kinda breezing through

[vapid warren]

Ugh yes, that one was a bitch

You gotta manually do it ):

and if you fuck up your movement or your axe.... rip

Or if you forget to turn on the buff

[cobalt nymph]

ye but i didn'te ven get close back thne

[vapid warren]

that respawns them

[cobalt nymph]

i was at 121

miles off xD

[vapid warren]

Oh wow. What lvl are you now

[cobalt nymph]

so i ignored it for a long time

[quiet viper]

how much damage did you need on the dk to get 180 kills on orb?

[vapid warren]

Thats insane

[warm kelp]

what should I use my green salts on in anvil tab 4, I made each of lustre tools.
I was thinking maybe upgrade 6 of trapping boxes? Or weapons for every char?

[cobalt nymph]

i have no idea tbh..

[vapid warren]

Man i forgot what I had....

I was midway through w5 when i did it

[cobalt nymph]

because when i first tried my dk was lvl 100 or so

with under 10m damage

and now they're at 400m damage..

[quiet viper]

im stuck on it right now with ~12000m damage and 500000m~ mega crits on abilities (roughly)

[cobalt nymph]

aswella s my orb skill was lvl 100

now its 247

[quiet viper]

think i've got 87 as highest

[vapid warren]

@Washizu, the important thing is to 1 shot the mobs.

[quiet viper]

but i gave up right away since that was literally perfect execution and so far off

[cobalt nymph]

ye that's what i did

i saw iw as so far off that i just ignored it completely

[quiet viper]

1 shot.. alright

ruby stars will have to wait a bit

[vapid warren]

Also place the statue on the bottom plat

[quiet viper]

cards*

[vapid warren]

and just run up and star clearing

[quiet viper]

yea

[cobalt nymph]

biggest gains to make it easier is leveling your max lvl of the orb talent

and gaining damage/movementspeed

[quiet viper]

orb is at 242 i think, most skills are around 240, so it's more like i need to keep leveling alchemy bubbles, meals, artifacts and so on

[vapid warren]

Yea the movement speed pots is super nice

:O

[cobalt nymph]

ye..

[quiet viper]

dont think there's a shortcut to that kind of damage

xd

[cobalt nymph]

alchemy sailing.. artifects etc

[south gull]

I love movement speed

[vapid warren]

Man I really need that max lvl artifact

[cobalt nymph]

there's no quick easy way xD

[zealous niche]

To do the 180 orb achievement, get a flat map, and you need to one shot mobs with your shockwaves, and be able to have at least one statue up at all times

Vman enhancement helps with that if you can, level 225

[cobalt nymph]

its not about achievements

it's rift clear

[zealous niche]

Oooh

[quiet viper]

rift 46 or something

[cobalt nymph]

43

[zealous niche]

Well, if you're one shotting and having trouble, multiple statues will be your key

[cobalt nymph]

i don't think they're 1shotting

[quiet viper]

nah im far far off from one shotting

[whole slate]

with trapping i would say its better to just go with nature traps until you can get to the next tier of em

[cobalt nymph]

if they 1shot it wouldn't be a challange xd

[zealous niche]

Yeah, usually rifts you blitz through them until the mobs are wayyy too tanky

[quiet viper]

exactly nino

[whole slate]

or just get new traps when u can

[quiet viper]

on good maps i get 650-700 on the orb

[cobalt nymph]

i think im gonna get stuck on 43 myself too soon

[whole slate]

been doing td tdy i can alr feel my energy draining

[cobalt nymph]

i really ned to fix my td up badly

[whole slate]

same

[quiet viper]

wish i could have lvl 82 towers for td 😭

[whole slate]

my bm went from lvl 16 worship to lvl 25 after 1 td goblin till wave 80

[cobalt nymph]

im still at like wave 70's

but i haven't done it in ages

and i got some massive tower upgrades

[whole slate]

post ur totalizer rq

[cobalt nymph]

i haven't even touched the last 2 td's at all ever haha

[whole slate]

im wave 70 in glubin till acorn

[whole slate]

i did cuz of balance of pain is free mkpt

[cobalt nymph]

im at 70/70/70/40/0/0

as for my towers i know i can get much further noiw

[whole slate]

im at 40 too in frosty yet i dont even have lvl 15 boulder

[cobalt nymph]

one day ill find the motivation to do td again xD

[whole slate]

whats ur br?

[cobalt nymph]

br?

boulder roller?

[south gull]

Build rate

[cobalt nymph]

ahh

2m/h

[normal minnow]

boulder roller is so funny

[south gull]

I recently did mine and it was not fun

It's so boring

[cobalt nymph]

oh damn ye that's alot more endgame then ill ever get to anytime soon xD

[south gull]

And the game crashed twice

[cobalt nymph]

ouch

i don't know what kinda levels i can hit now

but im hoping atleast 60 io think it was you needed for equinox

[south gull]

Best way of knowing is to try

[cobalt nymph]

ye...

someday soon xD

first i wanna finish rift off

to get as far as i possibly can atm

i know i can easily get atleast eldritch

which is my main goal atm

[south gull]

eldritch is huge

[cobalt nymph]

ye exactly

so that's a priority atm

after that i think double scims from equinox

so i gotta start looking at what i can do

[vapid warren]

Sounds like you're approximately like a month behind me :P

Although im still trying to get lots of artifacts. Most arent eldritch

[cobalt nymph]

i got most of what i have unlocked atm ancient

im still missing a few tho

missing the last 7

[south gull]

Oh no, not the

The best artifact in the game

[cobalt nymph]

i never even bred anything yet

no idea how to either haha

my breeding is garbage

[south gull]

It'll get better eventually

[cobalt nymph]

think im very close to hitting lvl 40

which is when shinies unlock no?

[south gull]

Yep

[cobalt nymph]

that should be nice

i mostly want the bits artifent..

990% total bits bonus would be massive..

25% multikill per damage tier would be nice too..

ye honestly all of the missing artifects would be huge

[south gull]

These 2 are meh

The rest is good

[cobalt nymph]

ye true i need to spend my gold..

so that will be meh, shiny might be nice to have early on idk how good shinies are

[south gull]

The damage isn't even that huge

It's like 0.07% more damage

[south gull]

Shinies are decent, but you can get them very easily

[cobalt nymph]

ye probably more worth getting eldtitch of some others

[glad crow]

Doot time

[cobalt nymph]

glgl

[south gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738868424813445172/1182378135820439612/Molti_Idle.gif?ex=658db4f3&is=657b3ff3&hm=bad441ad0be418747d451d46c9fe1231c6513daa0ccaf628ef8cdc432f422f9b&

[glad crow]

doot do be looking kinda weird

[normal minnow]

tjamls for reminding me

[cobalt nymph]

sadge

[normal minnow]

i got another molti

im ognna

[south gull]

I got ram

[normal minnow]

nice

rift slug when

[south gull]

Already had one tho

[south gull]

next week for sure

[normal minnow]

i have everything but riftslug

[normal minnow]

yea definately

[cobalt nymph]

okay kmy rift should be done by now

ye i think i should be able to make it to eldritch level of rift

[whole slate]

200 when?

[south gull]

When I bother doing tds again

At least for w1

I won't get 200 on the other ones

[cobalt nymph]

fuck xD

i don't know if i can beat the self healing thing on 4 chars

ye no fuck i don't think i can fuck

[normal minnow]

SHESH

[whole slate]

i have sluggo

[whole slate]

give me one of those i dont have it only keychain im missing

[cobalt nymph]

okay I'm fucked after all

I don't have enough damage on 4 chars to best the healing fuck at rift stage 28

[whole slate]

thats my main issue with rift only 2 toons easily do it the rest struggle so much like i know that its not fair that only 2 toons have gold dmg 60m both but stiiiiiiiiiil

[fathom grove]

[graceful tinsel]

thats some high quickslap

[fathom grove]

Maybe I can help a little have you done equinox damage. Damage star signs and golden kebabs. Damage cards doubled if you have them and boss card set.

[fathom grove]

My qs is only 1900 or so I just hourly click name I guess and atomed it a little bit too.

[graceful tinsel]

oh whats your character sheet dmg?

[fathom grove]

22.5q only

[graceful tinsel]

this is my highest and ive only hit 244Q 😦

[fathom grove]

That’s cause I use ES

[graceful tinsel]

im pretty sure my sb hits harder than my es

pretty impresive you have 22q character sheet dmg with only a 1900 quickslap, mines 4.5k

[fathom grove]

We almost have the same defense

[graceful tinsel]

ahhh i see, 87k wisdom

yea thats probably why xD

[proven iron]

I mean, you really need to do that again.

[graceful tinsel]

your stat bubbles must be quite high

[fathom grove]

Yeah lol I was clicking bubbles a long long time ago

[graceful tinsel]

i hate hourly clicking 😦

[fathom grove]

I was probably one of the first hourly clicker

[graceful tinsel]

i will probably start candying them soon though, they lacking

[fathom grove]

I will candy them in w6 too can’t wait for all the gains

[graceful tinsel]

for sure its gonna be fun

im just trying to increase my mason jar before i start candying

[fathom grove]

Yeah I’m gonna fractal island and do some sand pot candying soon. Gonna move my shrines to w2 and use maybe 40k hours of candy

[south gull]

Not bad, especially for a non quick slapper

[sacred verge]

huge

[south gull]

Can't wait to dump my candy into stat bubbles

[south gull]

Yeah, awesome news for my statue stack

[graceful tinsel]

im hoping to get close to 10k

[sacred verge]

same

finally i can get rid of my 100M+ statues

[fathom grove]

Yeah it would be 1st on the leaderboard right now for those that have uploaded. Almost all my atoms go to sampling bubbles

[south gull]

I could update mine

[fathom grove]

What’s your max damage hit though

It should be like 100qq? Idk

[south gull]

Around 70QQ

[fathom grove]

Curious what your es damage looks like though

[south gull]

Would be higher, if I optimize for max hit

Like depositing kachows and stuff

[fathom grove]

I’m still gonna keep pushing my name I guess lol

[south gull]

Yeah, probably better to do so

My poor atoms

[south gull]

Not even close to my sb, I can check later

[fathom grove]

I have important #1 sample spots to hopefully claim. I can’t do qs

[south gull]

Everyone has different goals

My samples aren't even that good

I think I could get 2b oak sample

[fathom grove]

2b is more than enough.

[south gull]

Thank you

[fathom grove]

Soon we will be 20b hopefully

[south gull]

Now I feel less bad

[fathom grove]

My oak is only 3b. It really slows down a lot.

[south gull]

Can't wait for all the new buffs

3b? damn

Nice

[fathom grove]

I just broke 2b copper

[south gull]

I neglected mining samples

They're terrible

[fathom grove]

Yep. Really hoping for some good skilling buffs

I just neglect catching

[south gull]

Understandable

[fathom grove]

It’s a little higher now. I got an event item yesterday. +.5% afk

[south gull]

Nice

Sitting at 5 atm

[fathom grove]

Nice

I think I’m at 5 too. Maybe 4. It gave me an extra 6 ladles in afk gains

[south gull]

Your ladle gain is like 4.2k+, no?

Still need to hit the 4k milestone

I'm at like 3.8k

[fathom grove]

Divinity keeps pushing it up 1 ladle every few days. I have everyone in it right now.

[south gull]

Wow, huge ladle gain

[humble garnet]

whats the best sampling build

[fathom grove]

There’s a guide somewhere in tips and tricks

[lilac bolt]

where is meteorite now

[teal lynx]

W1 Carrotmen

[cobalt nymph]

ahh i see, so i'm at the same level of towers as you are so i should be able to hit wave 100/80]s easily then thanks!

[tidal comet]

Do i use the minimum chest option for sailing?

[proven iron]

Yep, all of the defences are decently simular in difficulty, so you can get probably even higher than 70 in last two also. Next push i would imagine will be when i get equinox tower buff.

[south gull]

Nope

[humble garnet]

can you link it

[blazing quest]

Hi everyone, I would like to ask you for advice..

since I reached w3 (now I'm in late w5) I started saving all the statues I dropped to try to maximize the deposit in a possible future..

I don't have the vials buff given by the rift (even if I had it I only have 15 maxed vials) and I don't have the onyx statues yet (I have DR x7 and it's low enough to farm the power statues even with choco chip and DK)

..I was still "saving" but perhaps the low level of my statues could slow me down and limit me a bit..

How do you recommend I proceed? in the photo there is a summary of everything..

[static basin]

The maximum value would be to wait to deposit until having onyxed all 25 statues and all statues in w6, and also having 100% snakeskin vial, but that definitely seems like a long way away for your account. The statues that you currently have are very minimal, like an end game player could get all 108k of those in like 1 hour, so depositing all of them now isn't a huge deal in the grand scheme of things and will give you some nice bonuses.

I think my recommendation would hinge on if you have choco chip or not. If you do, then get in a full crystal set up on DK and farm out most of those onyx statues first and then start depositing, and if you don't have choco chip then i'd just deposit them all now if i were you.

[pastel bramble]

the 1bn journey continues

[static basin]

ing for you

[pastel bramble]

if i roll a 100m ima be madge

[static basin]

gotta make sure we get discord community members in all rank 1 spots on leaderboards

[pastel bramble]

i think most are discord members already? cause how else would they see the link 👀

is it shared on reddit too etc?

[static basin]

ive never seen druzzt ever

[pastel bramble]

they prob just dont have matching discord names

[south gull]

Druzzt isn't in the discord

[pastel bramble]

or maybe they got purged in the incident 😂

[south gull]

Probably that

[blazing quest]

I have a choco chip so I start farming power statues like there's no tomorrow?

then should I do the quest for all the PCs at the same time? How do you recommend me to proceed?

[static basin]

we are a team, if Neyney is rank 1 quickslap then I am rank 1 quickslap

https://tenor.com/view/best-team-teamwork-best-team-ever-anchorman-ron-burgundy-gif-11877904

[pastel bramble]

we need a platform tag then to form teams 😄

[south gull]

Sure

That means I'm rank 1 money too?

[sacred verge]

can i be rank 1 aswell?

[static basin]

I think proceed with which ever way seems most fun to you, because at your stage it's not like make or break if you did either way of dumping them now or waiting for all onyx

[south gull]

Password?

[teal lynx]

In my opinion your 7x Dr is really low to be farming Statues. You have a lot to improve first 😅

[sacred verge]

Quickslap > bob

[south gull]

How did you know

[proven iron]

I think i'm too poor for this shit, remind me how to reset the streak?

[static basin]

use pen on the shield and leave the order incomplete

[sacred verge]

everyone in their right mind knows ❤️

[blazing quest]

I know but i am not a late game player.. for more info : https://1gri5.idleonefficiency.com

[sacred verge]

luckily for us thats quite few

i feel pity for those who does not know the 2/1 ratio rule for QS/bob

and thats only a minimum

[teal lynx]

Your Plat Dices are not rerolled for +1 Dr. You are missing Sparkle Dice Obols for Family. You are missing a full personal Dr Obol page
Do that before farming Statues
Edit: My take is only start farming Statues with 12x dr minimum

[proven iron]

The quantity of items requested stops scaling up after streak 100.
Ah, nevermind, i'm just poor then. I need to get it together.

[blazing quest]

mmmm ok!

[gaunt shale]

its still worth letting reset

[uneven citrus]

Does anyone know if i can link my idleon account to another google account? because I recently deleted my google account and its to late to retrieve it, I'm still logged in to idleon on my main pc using steam but I cant log in anywhere else and if I get logged out I've lost all of my progress and I also cant log in anywhere else and use things like idleon efficiency and toolbox

[proven iron]

Yes, but at the point when i greenstack things, it probably shouldnt really matter if i properly sort out my gains.

[sacred verge]

is it finally time to claim?

[static basin]

PRAYING FOR DOUBLE PROC

[sacred verge]

sadly he is not cooking 😛

[blazing quest]

now i have :
Crystal Spawn Chance 1 in 63 + choco chip
DR 7.14x
DK's orb liv 251

I'll try to improve the drop rate and then see what to do

[static basin]

wth

[sacred verge]

he is in div trying to hit 17+ bear atm

[south gull]

Yikes

[worn sonnet]

Do you have the prayer on?

[pastel bramble]

but the omni procs ur gonna get a breeding proc

[sacred verge]

lol

[proven iron]

Or do i miss out on streak bonuses if i dont reset boxes every 200? I assumed i gain streak bonuses anyway.

[gaunt shale]

nah it always matters, printing more shit is annoying when you could be printing coocnuts and rare drops even more annoying

[static basin]

ahhh, im doing that kinda passively, i got 7 people on mantra and my 2 bb's on tranqi, so they getting 10exp per hour while still cooking up ladles

[sacred verge]

its gonna hit every proc in the game, trust me

[blazing quest]

Midas Minded +90% drop rate

[sacred verge]

yeah, i just figured why not get it over with. shouldve claimed before 31 days tho but i was lazy and had alot to do

[static basin]

got my +17 bear today coincidentally, 1409 big p and 155 div

[proven iron]

Can someone explain midas minded to me?
Is it used mostly to gain rare items that are not base drops as multikill doesnt work on them?

[sacred verge]

most my chars has the 17+ aswell

some are way past aswell 😛

[static basin]

yeah the extra levels are really worth it imo

Rasha had an extra 5% afk gains on me just from extra div levels

[sacred verge]

i just cant bother having them anywhere else than lab

should move em to somethign usefull in w4 tho (shrines is in w4)

maybe clammie

[haughty ivy]

Just got to world 5 what should i do for the divinity quest the grublo is telling ne to do?

[clever narwhal]

Right after using printer go brr 3 times... Almost perfection

[static basin]

Every single item other than maybe certain quest items are affected by drop rate, more dr = more chance for item to drop

[proven iron]

Well, that was quite obvious, but i expect midas minded drops multikill hard, so it probably not worth it for base drops and prints. Or is it?

I currently have close to x10 DR

[static basin]

No, not for prints or farming base drops with ES

[proven iron]

Thanks

Though i suppose for statues and obols it will be usefull.

I should have started to use it earlier

[worn sonnet]

Pretty much use it for everything except doing base mat vials

[sacred verge]

do you guys ever use kruk obols in family besides for candy ?

given you active play ofc

[haughty ivy]

Just got to world 5, what do i need to do for the divinity quest when it starts

[teal lynx]

Should swap to Kruk in Family when claiming afk gains from characters, but I usually forget it. Maybe once a month I remember to do that 😅

[sacred verge]

that was smart, honestly never thought about doing it that way

might aswell do it now before my 31 day claim 😄

[teal lynx]

Go onto the Divinity Altar and wait till you get enough points for the % chances. If the % chance succeed you unlock a God -> This will complete the Quest

This must be done afk

[haughty ivy]

Ah thanks

Divinity should only be done by es? Or should i focus hard on it?

[static basin]

think of all the ladles u miss out on D:

[teal lynx]

Hard focus till you unlock a God called Goharut

[haughty ivy]

So i shouldn't start pushing monsters? And bring everyone into div?

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
This is a good guide made by Trickz

[haughty ivy]

Thanks

[teal lynx]

You should not push Monsters. There is not much to be gained without a new world. You are way too weak to push and Portals are getting nerfed with the W6 release in around a month or two

Not sure if you know about the Autoreview Tool already. But it's great to see what you missed along the way to W5
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203 or https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com

[haughty ivy]

Thanks a bunch

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
And another little guide made by Trickz

[sacred verge]

the extra charge cap you get from charge syphon, is it a flat increase or actual % increase?

im assuming its flat but it cant remember

[tacit tulip]

additive, you can check on IE

[sacred verge]

it dosent seem to give the correct numbers nor does it uppdate quickly

[tacit tulip]

numbers aren't exact but the cap goes up by about 3k

[sacred verge]

alright

[tacit tulip]

ie's worship calculations are spotty at any rate

[sacred verge]

ty, finally decided its time to get my worship vials in order

[tacit tulip]

as an aside, 3000% increase is x31 if it wasn't a flat increase, which would put me on 407k cap if it worked that way

[sacred verge]

yeah, you never know tho

[tacit tulip]

you might actually find using up all your charge on forest souls is difficult btw 😂

had so much lag while clicking that the skill ran out of time. It's not so bad for the others due to the higher cost

[sacred verge]

lol

you can steal it back with 2nd es tho, atleast so ive heard

for longet time

[mellow flax]

Is there any way to get lab lvs faster

[tacit tulip]

lab exp multi is based on your efficiency so increasing that (stamps, maels etc) would increase your exp gains, too

[mellow flax]

Ok but one thing how do I get exp multi

[tacit tulip]

Efficiency

[mellow flax]

Because my wizard has x2 but not my bubo

Also thare any bubble that Encreases it

[mellow flax]

Yea

[fallen torrent]

BRAVER!

FIRST ATTEMPT. LV 23 SNAIL!

[keen moon]

do crystal kills count for cranium cooking?

[tacit tulip]

it's gonna take me 11 more days to max blobfish and lava said he'd give us a 2 week notice for w6 coming out, so I'll definitely be done with vials in time for w6 😄

[quartz oriole]

after i maxed my mana box, which one is better to inevst on for ES?

i have doot btw, do i still need to focus on divinity?

i reached the rabbit so far

[fallen torrent]

@bold quiver snail lv 23. first attempts at it. i went for it. 😄 worked

i decided to go for it even if my guts pinched horribly xD

i saw a change at numbers i was like. WHAT HAPPENED

well i bought 2 upgrade so i would go down 10 now

going out to thehospital

brb in 2hour or so

[safe harness]

what do I work towards with anvil after nails/thread max vial and green stacks?

[paper sail]

Nails for Hocus Choppus

Couple of stamps are decent too

[safe harness]

stamps, knew i missed something

[tacit tulip]

You still need to do divinity but it's not as immediately essential. There's 3 main reasons why

1. The second bonus, minor, scales off your divinity level. You get the minor from all gods, so div level is quite important
2. Purrmep, the tiger god, needs a manual link to establish the minor bonus
3. The third bonus, blessing, requires the god to be unlocked to get the upgrades, so you want all gods unlocked

[paper sail]

Aw man. Saw I broke 12k total stamp levels, but still not top 20 on CaMp's LBs 😦 Stinky

[raven fog]

Do u get +2 super discounts

Dan

[paper sail]

I wish

A chance at 2 Gilded Stamps daily would be sweet

[raven fog]

It would be more worth it

[paper sail]

Stamps are worthwhile anyway 🤷

[tacit tulip]

always fun seeing what bugs random events can bring you

today I can't kill frog cause he spawned in his dying animation

[paper sail]

Surprised you'd go to a Frog event anyway

[tacit tulip]

still want it for slab

[paper sail]

Do you already have the better loot?

[tacit tulip]

I basically just do whatever event I see as I still don't have any event drops (bar one moon ring)

so don't really care which one I do

now that my other idle game has ended I might spend some more time doing silly things in idleon tho

[tough tusk]

nah just find another one

[tacit tulip]

my gpu needs a rest tbh

lava barrels done 😄

[paper sail]

Crabbo Card finished this morning. 25 Dung Beat cards from that hourly collect, 2303 more cards to go = 93 more collects. Another ~10-15 days

[paper sail]

I just got to 194 myself yesterday with Coldseekers

There are my tickets to 199

[tacit tulip]

reckon you'll hit 200 before w6?

[paper sail]

I better, or I wasted a lot of time/candy

[tacit tulip]

I only candied the quest items

which I'd want stacked anyway. Doesn't feel like a waste to me

[paper sail]

Mostly the bars were what felt like wastes to me

I guess yeah, I got Gmush kills which I would eventually want anyway

[tacit tulip]

my 199 path

[paper sail]

Ah sheesh, you're gonna beat me for sure

[tacit tulip]

after that it's just void bars and done

[paper sail]

Bucket of Slush should be my 200th

[tacit tulip]

slush was incredibly easy, would definitely recommend

[paper sail]

I was hoping w3 vendor cheese would have happened naturally, but too slow I think. I need 17 more days to finish this gstack.

[daring flume]

Is divinity sparkle worth buying

[tacit tulip]

that the gem shop bonus?

I'd place it behind the chest storage and first level of sprinkler imo

[daring flume]

?

[granite grove]

in other words, not really, its low priority

[daring flume]

Alr

[granite grove]

its nice to kick start early divinity, but the value just loses hard after getting 10 gods

whereas sprinkler will continue to be useful for a long time with chem loops

[tacit tulip]

depending on how close you are to w6 (guessing not) it might even be worthwhile saving for the new stuff

[granite grove]

cant wait for lab chip 2.0

[lilac bolt]

which ones ?

[granite grove]

choping and worship

not sure about alchemy tho, but i think also yes for this

or lab, dunno either

well then need someone to answer this

[lilac bolt]

i dont know if its worth to do it on fighting preset, i dont have anything else

[paper sail]

It works on every Mage skill. Choppin, Alchemy, Worship, Lab, Divinity

[lilac bolt]

here ok if i go now str? ES

[paper sail]

You're probably better off with the flat HP, or saving up to level the Mana scaling more Only +18 points is very sad

[lilac bolt]

+18?

[paper sail]

Yes. Can't recall the name, the blue one in the bottom row, 2nd from the left

[fathom lagoon]

Something overload I think lol

Iceberg lookin one

[lilac bolt]

this cant be upgraded with books ?

[tacit tulip]

you know it's kinda weird that warrior 15 works on gaming when archer 15 doesn't work on breeding or sailing

[tacit tulip]

weekly reset and not a single giant or plunderous boop

[chrome tiger]

it's not much.. but it's honest nug

[rotund rivet]

why it's showing negative? and i did not get any for 5days. is it bug?

[teal lynx]

You are on mobile and overflowed. The overflow limit is 2.1B
So u got 3.5B and it went 1.4B into negative

[rotund rivet]

now thats sad tsk trying to upgrade that bubble for warrior

I guess I'll just comeback every other day. Thankss

[teal lynx]

It works fine on PC if you got one/have access to one

PC does not have any overflow issues

[lyric sequoia]

More statues to onyx out, yay...

[analog jewel]

the family bonus bug is just visual or it does count the lower lvl char? My highest is 452 but family page list the bonus for the other char

[teal lynx]

Have you switched that DK?
Like from BB to DK?

[analog jewel]

yup

[teal lynx]

I believe that's a known bug
It won't count that ones Family Bonus

[tacit tulip]

yeah, class swapped chars don't give bonuses for the changed class, it sucks

it's essential that needs to be fixed soon as when the new 3 classes come out ,we need those skills to work

[analog jewel]

ok. thx.

[teal lynx]

Another feature

[lyric sequoia]

I should probaby get a spice fight team ready for w6, idk what the meta even is for those now

[tacit tulip]

Spice meta hasn't really changed

[vivid radish]

Do i even bother to active for months to get the one mill or will i just be happy at 100k?

[tacit tulip]

ratt mono looter defender refill refill

[tacit tulip]

it's a long term investment. You'll benefit from it, but there's probably better things to be doing rn

[vivid radish]

i figured, shit takes forever even with drop/crystal cards lmao

[lyric sequoia]

Snail 19, time to pump that thing full of encouragement for a month

[tacit tulip]

about 20k kills a day

[vivid radish]

hmm i get like 3k/8h

[tacit tulip]

you have the vman enhancement active?

Makes a huge difference

[vivid radish]

aye, vman enhancement is on, crystal cards as well for extra coins/kills, talents on current max

[tacit tulip]

yeah that definitely feels low, how weird 😦

you're generally looking at about 2 months to max it normally

[vivid radish]

at the current rate it would take way longer than that, is multikill a factor with plunder kills?

[tacit tulip]

Nope

[vivid radish]

guess my SB is just weak sauce

[teal lynx]

What is your Crystal Chance and you got Choco Chip equipped?

[vivid radish]

choco is on as well and 1 in 60

[tacit tulip]

1/60 is fairly low, guessing no doublers?

[teal lynx]

3k is very low then
You 100% sure?

[tacit tulip]

as long as you're oneshotting the plunder mobs, and have attack atlents maxed out (those little balls add up) you should be fine

[teal lynx]

The only other thing that would make a big difference is the map you farm plunders at? You doing Citringes or Wurms?
Or something completely different?

[tacit tulip]

it's not like you have to put inputs in to kill mobs

[teal lynx]

Good commentary

[quiet viper]

best pet team setup for equinox 4 man team challenge?

[teal lynx]

Looter, Peapod, Refill, Borger

[quiet viper]

ty xaya!

[tacit tulip]

you can leave a gap between the borger/refiller to protect your backline from bouncing attacks too

[quiet viper]

i finally unlocked that +1 pixel range in lab yesterday

god damn it felt good being able to connect to both construction boost and cooking boost

haha

[tacit tulip]

lvl 8 gets you that damage gem too but the benefit it provides is minimal

[vivid radish]

citringes ofc, uhhh maybe im wrong about my daily numbers. Imma check tomorrow again

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'd check again. If youre on citringes and you have enough damage to actually kill punders in one hit then theres no way you only get 3k per day with vman enhancement on

[tacit tulip]

3k per 8 hours

which isn't as terrible

but still not great

[vivid radish]

yeah certainly one shotting everything

[quiet viper]

trying to boost my call me bob bubble by a lot, got any good tips? put es on active farm for the combs?

[tacit tulip]

if it's in atom range - atoms. If not, ES/alchemy discount

[tidal comet]

why if i check the trap o vision thing it stays at three hours even tho i already waited three hours?

[tacit tulip]

you can use lab/wrong character to get it to atom range sooner too

[sick sentinel]

Do you leave the game on the player menu screen?

[tidal comet]

no

[tacit tulip]

did you, by sheer chance, just have your daily reset happen?

[tidal comet]

no thats in the evening for me

[quiet viper]

not in atom range just yet, thats the first goal, after that it'll be a bit less to think about

will go for es/discount

[signal osprey]

What have you been farming for the past 3 hours while you wait?

[tidal comet]

I just was in the start screen i wasnt farming anything

[quiet viper]

might spend bubo cc water on many discounts a day

if that's woirth it

[glacial venture]

char select?

[tidal comet]

yes

[glacial venture]

thats why

[sick sentinel]

That's the player menu screen lol, having that spot open stops some timers

[tacit tulip]

that's exactly what circ asked haha

[tidal comet]

oh'

[tidal comet]

i didnt understand the question well i guess

[vivid radish]

attack back? talents are on 220 base (274 skilled) rn highest i can get

[sick sentinel]

Yeah so either active play or close game completely for it to be good

[tacit tulip]

you could also do a vman speedrun to print the combs if you need

[glacial venture]

mine is printing frisbees^^

[tacit tulip]

I'm pretending those don't exist rn

I'll print those once I get doot

[whole rock]

Is there a gaming upgrade priority list? I don't see any in the pins

Wondering if there's any fertilizer upgrades I should be getting the moment I can afford them or if I should be saving for something else

[sacred verge]

any reason to keep collecting these? i cant think of any but just to make sure

[quiet viper]

ahh nice one! didn't think about that, was thinking of doing new prints all over the board today either way so thanks for that idea 🙂

another random question btw, is there a way to benefit from the orb on chizoar besides killing the ice flake orbs or whatever? or even better how does the mechanic behind the orb work? iirc someone said every 100th kill you get a chance or definite (cant recall) secondary roll on the loot table?

[tacit tulip]

orb no worky on main bosses

[quiet viper]

so vman best choice if i need to get a couple of blankets / obols from troll/kruk?

❤️

[tacit tulip]

obviously for kruk you need to ensure you're killing it fast enough

otherwise I'd pick something like bubo to melt it

[quiet viper]

aye

been just bubo for the time being on kruk since it take ages and beyond with my vman dmg atm but for future reference

[tacit tulip]

you'll probably finsih the obols going for the 10 capes/trophies at any rate

[quiet viper]

good point

[sacred verge]

when youre at the stage of killing farming for actual rare drops it matters little what class imo. you usally have tons of keys

[quiet viper]

skip troll obols might be better use of my time as well then?

[sacred verge]

like when you farm up tons of obols

[quiet viper]

and go straight for kruk since they're available

[tacit tulip]

probably - kruks better for sampling and dice are better for active. You'd only wanna keep a troll set for mp/hp snapshotting

burnt 20k keys finishing off my divine scarf/cape drops the other night, nice to finally have that done

leaves me with 50k keys if I'm ever absolutely desperate for gems

[lyric sequoia]

Last sigill to unlock, now it's a race between me and Lava

[tacit tulip]

I'm investing in the future of world 6 bonuses. 0 idea if this is going to be any good 😄

[vivid radish]

game breaking

like doot was/is

[tacit tulip]

need to decide what I'm doing once kitchen upgrades are done. Prolly weapon attack

[lyric sequoia]

I just gold in order

None of the sigills I haven't golded are particularlly huge, so may as well go in speed order

[sacred verge]

thats insanity

[tacit tulip]

liquids is definitely a priority unlock

[sacred verge]

youre wasting so much

[lyric sequoia]

Is it?

[sacred verge]

it is

[lyric sequoia]

Eh

[tacit tulip]

pretty much everything relies on liquid in alchemy, and alchemy is the strongest skill

[lyric sequoia]

I prefer order, not like siggils are going anywhere

[sacred verge]

you could be almost halfway into the liquid one if you dropped stuff

its would mean you take probably like 1 year more to get it

probably even more

[lyric sequoia]

Yeha not that fussed tbh

[tacit tulip]

it's like 300 days even with 4 people on it

disgusting

[sacred verge]

yeah, every1 is free to do whatever they like

but i know what im gonna do

[lyric sequoia]

I like things in order, so I'll lstick to that

[tacit tulip]

the one big benefit to cephs ordering - once they only have two sigils left they can't use all 10 chars on it

so they'll perma go to water at that point

whereas that'll happen later if you hit the sigils in usefulness order

[sacred verge]

still would have lost out of so much water by that point

im only doing sigils with 8 guys tho when i bubo

[rustic garnet]

What's the fastest small str potion farm place, and which class?

I just left my DK on beans over night and was very underwhelmed at the amount

[lilac bolt]

dont use mob respawn star signs on ES?

[rustic garnet]

why is that adrian?

[keen moon]

should you swap characters to liquid cauldrons when using cranium cooking?

[tacit tulip]

ES respawns mobs using the portal (including map mobs) so it doesn't benefit from mob respawn while active

go damage/drop rate/capacity for the extra mob kills/material gains

[sacred verge]

just do rats and combine it with quest item farming, ES

sorry

that was for health pot

my bad, heh. need to read

[rustic garnet]

yeah, ES doesn't work for the crystal drops as well

[tacit tulip]

small strength is purely a crystal mob drop

so...beans as DK

[sacred verge]

bubo at frogs then

[rustic garnet]

then this is an incredibly slow burn

[sacred verge]

how many do you need?

[tacit tulip]

I'm assuming 10m for the stack

[rustic garnet]

yeah

I only got 4% of the goal over night (8 hours)

[sacred verge]

bubo works well at frogs atleast

[autumn hollow]

Why bubo over dk?

[rustic garnet]

why would bubo do better than DK?

[sharp wind]

Wait iirc crystal doesnt drop small health pot

[rustic garnet]

My concern here is that it is considered a 'tier 4' green stack

[sacred verge]

bubo at frogs is just op