lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[keen trellis]

No but it’s 10% dr

[open cloak]

yeah

[keen trellis]

12% if whale

[open cloak]

I won't say no to DR ever

🙂

[sweet pine]

i'd take all the DR

[keen trellis]

Sigils needs some tweaking imo

[sweet pine]

i have only issue with 3% ms and mana regen

[open cloak]

yeah it's painfully slow and provides very little value

[sweet pine]

total useless

[keen trellis]

Mana is useful for like.. early game players getting es and sb but you would never touch sigils at that point

[sweet pine]

or until some final elite class mages actually using x% max mana to increase dmg

until then

[prisma furnace]

Feels good, active Buboing while im not home a couple days xD

[azure spindle]

w5 already has up to +300% sigil bonuses unless you meant speed that they generate

[prisma furnace]

Remote desktop ftw

[keen trellis]

Well it doesn’t change max mana so it’s still useless

[open cloak]

even 300% of that mana regen bonus is useless

lol

[sweet pine]

steam deck

[keen trellis]

No I want more sigil bonuses

[sweet pine]

wish i have one

[keen trellis]

Sigils give shit bonuses for the time investment required

[azure spindle]

yeah they're at a weird point of either being really good or pointless

and not really a middle ground

[keen trellis]

Even the really good ones give such a low value too

[sweet pine]

liquid regen and refinery speed is good so

[prisma furnace]

Sigils give quite a good bonus when you factor in, the artifact that 6x the bonus

[sweet pine]

the rest is how you look at it

[azure spindle]

I mean as base but eldritch cold thread or whatever makes some quite good

[keen trellis]

Isn’t artifact only 3x

[azure spindle]

4x

300%

[keen trellis]

300% or +300%

[azure spindle]

+300%

[prisma furnace]

Ah yeah I guess that makes sense, would be 4x then

Always thought it was 6x

[keen trellis]

Looks like it would be 6x to me

[azure spindle]

it says as base form that sigls are 2x and that ancient and eldritch doubles and triples the effect respectively

[keen trellis]

Because main bonus tripled would be 2x 3

[azure spindle]

but the way it's coded is that the 2x is a +100% not multiplier

[prisma furnace]

Depends on how you read it

[autumn hollow]

+100%, +200%, +300% is how I would expect that to be

[prisma furnace]

If you read it as giving a 100% bonus as base, tripled then its 4x

[azure spindle]

I remember checking it before out of curiosity when I was leveling the drop rate sigil and confirmed it as a 4x with eldritch

[keen trellis]

No it specifically says 2x

[prisma furnace]

Which basically is a +100% bonus

[keen trellis]

Yes

4x makes no sense except lava code

[azure spindle]

yeah it's for sure not the first poorly worded thing Lava has done, even within just sailing

[keen trellis]

It’s not even poorly worded it would just be completely wrong lmao

Idk how it’s coded but the way it’s worded eldritch chilled yarn should be 6x sigil bonus, no clue how 4x maths

[azure spindle]

the base form is fine it's rather that ancient and eldritch are done badly

[keen trellis]

You can say that again

[paper sail]

It sorta makes sense..

[keen trellis]

No

[paper sail]

You're including the base form multiple times, which is bad math.

[keen trellis]

Then it would be 12x if the ancient and eldritch stacked

[autumn hollow]

Doubling a bonus is a +100% difference than normal. Ancient doubles that bonus to +200%, and eldritch +300%

[paper sail]

100% base + (100% * 3 eldritch) = 400%

The only way you get 6 is if you are combining 100% base + 100% artifact, THEN tripling

[autumn hollow]

Or put another way, you normally get 1x. With the artifact, you get 1 + 1x. With ancient, you get 1 + (1*2)x. With eldritch, you get 1 + (1*3)x

[keen trellis]

That would be a terrible way to program it

[paper sail]

He could write it better for sure, but it isn't absurd

[azure spindle]

no you would get 6x as well if you took the artifact as a 2x multiplier instead of a +100% additive, which means that tripling that is 6x, so still makes sense with math

it makes sense both ways just lacks clarity is all

[paper sail]

Yeah, he needs to stop mixing "2x" and "+100%" like they're the same thing 😦

[keen trellis]

The problem is lava needs English classes

Yeah if he’s doing % instead of 2x getting 4x makes sense

Which means it’s worded just wrong

[fading plover]

if you have the eldritch yarn you could look in it or ie to see the bonus with artifact on, and check your alchemy screen to see the regular bonus

[keen trellis]

I’m not at my pc

[paper sail]

We confirmed the way it worked a year ago on release 🤷 You're certainly welcome to re-check

[keen trellis]

No I believe you I just wish with an incremental game this size he could learn the lingo

[azure spindle]

bold of you to assume Lava knows how his game works

[gaunt shale]

its still lava lol, better to take some coding 101 classes before he takes english classes

[keen trellis]

Honestly I’d rather him at least be able to articulate what the code actually does

[azure spindle]

I think as rule of thumb as well he tries to avoid having too many straight multipliers for misc things since that can get out of hand quite fast

[gaunt shale]

you are going with the assumption that lava 100% knows what his code does, which, yeah lmao

[keen trellis]

Then it should just say “Increase sigils effects by +100%”

[azure spindle]

I mean I don't think anyone is arguing against you here

[keen trellis]

Or at least fix it when pointed out

Venting my frustrations with inconsistent verbiage don’t mind me

[azure spindle]

ah fair

[paper sail]

It is the cross we bear to continue playing IdleOn

[gaunt shale]

[azure spindle]

is to support one italian man and his goal of making a game

[gaunt shale]

good enough of a game that people are willing to put up with this bs

[keen trellis]

It’s honestly a great game it makes my designer brain happy but some things just

[azure spindle]

yeah there's definitely more than a few things that can make you feel like that in this game

I think one of the worse things is sometimes he does it intentionally

[keen trellis]

Lava trolls

[paper sail]

Even this Equinox Vial, added very recently, is wrong 🙃 It gives Build Speed, not Build Rate. Which leads to the side tangent of making Speed and Rate mean different things to begin with.

[azure spindle]

wait they're different?

[keen trellis]

There’s a difference?

[paper sail]

Point in case

[gaunt shale]

[paper sail]

Build SPEED actually gives all 3 stats: Rate, EXP, and Flaggy too.

[autumn hollow]

The biggest annoyance I have with the game, is lack of consistency between menus. Sometimes a scroll does one page, other times its one line. Sometimes there's an Exit button, sometimes an X, sometimes nothing at all. Sometimes clicking on a thing, will click on everything behind the screen too. Sometimes it won't.

[open cloak]

construction XP per hour slowly creeping up

[azure spindle]

wait this means that when you run out of red salts you lose exp on DK right?

[paper sail]

Correct

[azure spindle]

that explains so much now

I never knew this and now I'm both glad I know it now and annoyed that I know it now

on the plus side finally figured out why my one DK had higher exp generation in construction

[paper sail]

Ha.. That's half the story at least 🤣

There is a longstanding bug where your active character doesn't get full Construction EXP too

[azure spindle]

oh that one I know about

[paper sail]

Best I've seen sussed out is that, while Active, Warriors Rule is not increasing the EXP given by Carpenter. It does while AFK/not on that character though 🙃

[azure spindle]

wait.... this means that carpenter also increases exp

I thought it was just br

I hate this

[lapis elm]

https://tenor.com/view/spaghetti-gif-24457079

Live action cam of idleon code

[azure spindle]

I mean that's why I referenced Lava as an Italian man earlier

[autumn hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/spag-food-love-is-food-mmm-same-gif-26394887

[paper sail]

That difference is why your Active DK (4 for me) lags behind in levels compared to the inactive DK (8 for me)

[azure spindle]

so much pasta

[autumn hollow]

That's a lot of build rate....

[paper sail]

That's personal snap, but no family snap

Could be higher

[azure spindle]

man I wish obols screen was a bit more user friendly when swapping them between first 6 family members and last 4

[muted plover]

i did no find the other bags in wiki (after h)

[paper sail]

Those with X aren't in the game

[signal osprey]

[tall horizon]

100% 4hr nice

more mobs in colo 3 i assume

[signal osprey]

Yeah I think the 300+ orb count mark guarantees the 4hr

W4 only get up to like 270 so you always have a chance to miss it

[tall horizon]

so 2/3 will net you more 4hrs

not that those being superior were ever in question

[signal osprey]

Well W2 is a bit different

[tall horizon]

true

[autumn hollow]

How do you get 300 orb on every run, if the orb lasts 3-4 runs?

[tall horizon]

stupid hp nodes

[signal osprey]

Not even that its the miniboss candy bag

Slush/mush is 1/2 drop

Biggie is 1/2.5

[muted plover]

is 80 the max ?

[signal osprey]

Not sure what you mean. Each colo run has a fixed amount of mobs so it will always be the same orb count every time

Your orb count resets when you change maps so you start from 0 on every colo even with the same orb buff up

[autumn hollow]

Oh, I see

[paper sail]

Sort of. 80 is the max we can actually use, and the max that menu will show. Technically if you have every bag plus Autoloot, you are owed 83 slots but Lava only lets you use 80.

[muted plover]

thxx

[paper sail]

@signal osprey is this pointing to something other than w2 running?

Because I would like to stop

[signal osprey]

Well the W4 I did because I want to do some breeding levels and get troll keys for the W4 quest line

W3 was kinda just testing it out and honestly I think I might like it better

[south gull]

Contract, from 3 min in

[signal osprey]

Now do more

[south gull]

I usually never cog click

But might do more today

[paper sail]

28% directional sadge

[signal osprey]

I've been going a couple months at a time without bothering and then doing a lot of cogs over a week or two before not doing cogs for months again

[south gull]

Good enough for me

[signal osprey]

Every few hundred levels or so

I think I'm close to the not bothering again part

[paper sail]

I'd still keep it as a general exp cog, but my directions I think are minimum 50

Maybe not the corners. Screw those

[south gull]

Yeah, I never really cog click

[paper sail]

Same. I think you're higher lol

I'm in the 6k range iirc

[south gull]

You still are higher in construction, with 2 level 1k dks

[paper sail]

I don't want to break my obol snapshot to look

[signal osprey]

I want 13k before I stop but its starting to slow down a lot

[south gull]

That's my highest one

[south gull]

Damn

[azure spindle]

man I wish I could stay on dk to get better construction but I need to farm quest mats and vials

[signal osprey]

Candy them and play DK

[azure spindle]

I feel like that might take a bit too much candy but I am considering it

it would be nice to stop desyncing my game from playing es

[signal osprey]

Now the question is do I keep the colo farm going with 100 W2 runs or do I click cogs

[paper sail]

Neat. I guess i did break 7k at some point.

Gotta be a better way to take screenshots with Google's remote desktop app

[old crane]

I've been using the crop option after I do screenshots on my samsung phone

[azure spindle]

why choose? do both at once

[open cloak]

wish we could spend 10x, 100x etc coll tickets or boss tickets and just multiply drops

[signal osprey]

I've done that before. There are more pleasant things to do in idleon

Plus your chance of white screening goes up a lot while cogging and I dont want to waste tickets if I can help it

[azure spindle]

fair

[thin escarp]

question i just came to. for infinite star signs, do you have to unlock each node to get the bonus or just once you get the inf. symbol you have the bonus? I can't seem to find a clear answer. Thank you.

[azure spindle]

fairly certain even if you don't have them unlocked the infinite starsign gives it to you

[glossy gate]

Unlock each...

[south gull]

You don't need to unlock the star sign to get it's bonus once it's an infinity star sign

You only need it unlocked, to double it with lab chip

[glossy gate]

But it looks gooder😩

[thin escarp]

awesome, ty 🙂

[vagrant mountain]

I think # of clicks til white screen gets reset with changing maps

[open cloak]

whens the next star sign doubler for sale

sigh

[thin escarp]

ill get it , kist no rush now, X

[signal osprey]

I randomly white screened in a colo earlier though so I was changing maps constantly

[dim wind]

Finally!

Ive had 20 boats on the island for months

[azure spindle]

I love how the pain of getting eldritch fury is universally relateable that it doesn't even get pinchy or anything, that's just how painful it is and we all know it

[signal osprey]

Not sure if anyone knows. The original spreadsheet that was done only went up to March of this year and it doesnt appear in that time

[open cloak]

danngit

[gaunt shale]

found out yesterday IT has up to date chips

[proven iron]

Finally.

[signal osprey]

You sure? Currently the spreadsheet goes to April 3 and IT is only showing up to March 27

[gaunt shale]

at least I assume its correct

[signal osprey]

Thank you for pointing out that I'm blind and had the option to extend the search window

[fathom lagoon]

Months?! Holy shit

[azure spindle]

just checked, next starsign doubler is in July according to it

IT*

[dim wind]

yeh, no joke... Its my first artefact since late october or the first week of november

[signal osprey]

Only one doubler of any kind within the next 6 months. Pretty cool

And no trophy doubler within the next year

[azure spindle]

yeah looking at starsign doubler made me chuckly 2 within the next 50 weeks

that's crazy for trophy doubler though

[dim wind]

lets hope W6 adds a slot to the shop...

[gaunt shale]

bit of a joke, lava roleplaying as a clown with chip rotation

[azure spindle]

roleplaying?

[dim wind]

he is a clown, no roleplayng needed

[pearl cedar]

Kinda nice that he is allowing me to never have to look at chip rotation ever again

[dim wind]

@paper sail please let your autoreview default to dark mode please?

[static ice]

In early w5 what should be main active pusher, DK still or ES or bubo?

[dim wind]

I enjoyed doing both DK and BuBo

[azure spindle]

I'm finally dones greenstacking the paintings!

[static ice]

both? like afk both?

[dim wind]

no, mix em up

one day one, one day the other

[static ice]

what level was your bubo

doesnt that slow down progression kidna

[dim wind]

410-420?

[static ice]

when u were in early w5?????

[dim wind]

yeh, it did, but bubo made more money active which helped me get kitchens and stamps

[static ice]

my dk 155, bubo 98, lmao

[dim wind]

I was 400 on almost all 10 chars when W5 landed

[static ice]

ohhhh

[azure spindle]

if damage is a bit lower and you're trying to push I think DK will be easier to do

[static ice]

DK almost 1m dmg, not sure what i am missing

[dim wind]

defence might play a factor too

[swift rose]

this

i pushed with DK because of defense, until my SB was high damage

[static ice]

defense or hp?

[swift rose]

well hp because defense requirements were too high

[static ice]

I kinda want to swap to bubo, but he will probably die to crystal instantly

[swift rose]

he will 100%

[dim wind]

at level 98, yes

[leaden hemlock]

is it worth levelling divinity over 100 on every char or no?

[static ice]

Guess im sticking with DK till w6

[azure spindle]

mainly dk has the shockwaves which will let you clear stuff beyond your normal capability

[dim wind]

I forgot to take of the Beefy prayer and got KO'd on a level 500 BuBo today, think the crystal hit me 150k

[static ice]

Do yuou guys max shockwave, or stop after 51-52%

[swift rose]

you switch to SB in late w5, but ig with w6 soon it may not matter

[static ice]

150k is crazy

why SB?

[swift rose]

damage becomes insane, esp with crits

[static ice]

oh wow, didnt know

thought bubo or es was the best

[azure spindle]

sb basically has double movespeed scaling with damage both from kit and quickslap

and then you have onyx doubling statue movespeed so it gets really high

[swift rose]

440 SB vs 455 bubo same gear and everything

[static ice]

wow

[vagrant mountain]

another one 😎

[azure spindle]

I think just in general to bubo is lower damage than es too

[static ice]

but his abilties makes him kill faster right

[azure spindle]

yeah if you have high enough tenteycle and respawn ability

you need like 200 tenteycle I think

[static ice]

yeah far away from that

[leaden hemlock]

damage becomes irrelevant pretty quickly

except for wizard where you need it for higher mob count

on portal

[swift rose]

yea but factor in crit and everything else my SB hits way higher than damage shows

[static ice]

One day ill catch up

[paper sail]

Don't think I saw you get an answer. 155 divinity + 1440 Big P will get you to +17 levels on Arctis. That's a nice goal

[swift rose]

i mean at the end of w5 (w6 for you at this point ig) you end up maining bubo for alch/CC

[leaden hemlock]

lol guess im sitting on div until world 6

[leaden hemlock]

thanks mate

[azure spindle]

I'm finally grinding out tail time vial so reviewbot stops yelling at me

[paper sail]

It'll find something new to nag you about

[azure spindle]

I'm aware, but at least it'll nag about a vial that's probably not in the first couple worlds at least

[south gull]

Sb is the best when it comes to damage

[south gull]

Congrats on that 30% bar fill rate

Also, new obol slot

[lavish cloak]

and now most of my chores are active. i've gotta actually play now >.<

[south gull]

Ew

[lavish cloak]

oh wait, statues to greenstack

muahahhaa

[south gull]

Do that

[glossy owl]

ugh.. 21/75 lucky lads

[sacred verge]

hmm, a little overdue

[short sparrow]

I feel like a dog waiting for its meal the way I wait for lava's posts every day

[plucky edge]

so the equinox challenge with 100b gmush is it fixed or is it still lower than that and what is the correct amount if thats the case

#💖future-content-blog message

dont tell me what not to do lava

[sweet pine]

10 vials

[plucky edge]

more shaman damage

[sacred verge]

wish it was more

[lavish cloak]

you are playing the game correctly

[old crane]

It's only 1b gmush

[plucky edge]

its not

a guild member cant complete it thats why im asking but appearantly it was bugged when it came out and is fixed now

[sick sentinel]

It got fixed i assume to the full, need someone to test if it's 10bil or the full 100bil tho

[old crane]

Ive added some kills I got the thing, but it was definitely only a little over 1b

I've heard some ppl had to do something to get it to register tho

[sick sentinel]

It was 1B unintentionally on release

[old crane]

Hmm, I guess lucky I had randomly candied up to 1b before equinox just for cash multi

[patent hatch]

10 new vials!!! Poggers

[worn sonnet]

You need a second stack so you can max the vial straight away

[faint niche]

NICE! Just got an upgrade finally!

[muted plover]

gratzz

[faint niche]

Still missing the last 2 plants though >.< hating the RNG on those

[plucky edge]

already ahead of you mate

[worn sonnet]

Hell yeah

[olive sphinx]

Td6 worship setup?

[fathom lagoon]

Hmmm my dmg just went up by 150B and I have no idea what caused it lol

[faint niche]

O.O thats alot! I am stiting at 2.7B on my strongest toon

[fathom lagoon]

Tell me about it. I was at 1.18T dmg at glublins, went to w2 town to turn in post office & did the weekly boss and now it’s at 1.34T

But I thought weekly boss only gives me DR so I’m confused lol

So many damn buffs in this game idk what comes from what

[faint niche]

my best rn

[fathom lagoon]

You’ll hit a point where you start flying in dmg soon

[plucky edge]

my worst

it starts to scale insanely

[fathom lagoon]

Can’t wait for purple numbers

[sacred verge]

my worst

[faint niche]

I can't wait! I try to do what I can to raise it, I think I need to work on my eclipse and treasure rn

[plucky edge]

went frome 2-3 bil on vman to multiple trill

[plucky edge]

your bubo is your weakest char?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea eclipse helps but at your dmg it isn’t worth doing it, will take too long. W1 Eclipse is taking me forever w my current setup

[sacred verge]

nah not really, just could not bother changing to show it

[plucky edge]

[sacred verge]

i would bet vman is the weakest

[fathom lagoon]

I’d also bet that

[faint niche]

Ah alright, Think i need to reupload my public for the bot so I can see what the next thing to focus on is

[sacred verge]

last time i had a quick look it was well over 10T, but that is some time ago without proper setup

[fathom lagoon]

When all else fails, listen to scoli bot’s gospel

[sacred verge]

dmg aint that important tho

it does help for MK tiers but besides that its just a flex

[fathom lagoon]

Dmg number go up, dopamine goes up

[faint niche]

So glad im finally in w5 on it

[sacred verge]

its nice to see dmg go up, but when you hit the Q range its not as nice anymore

cus it literally changes nothing

[fathom lagoon]

I’m mid w5 😅 need to work on skilling bubbles

[sacred verge]

it will be nice for w6 tho

[faint niche]

I also need to get hte last spice territory

[fathom lagoon]

yea I feel that, other things get more important since dmg doesn’t effect much other than mob related tasks

[reef bough]

Is there other why to see wekly boss solution other than YouTube?

[sacred verge]

i wonder how far into w6 ive got MK allrdy

[fathom lagoon]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428

[sick sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428
always updated in here
check the pins in here so you dont need to scroll

[sacred verge]

probably quite far on SB atleast

[fathom lagoon]

Bro you use YouTube for that? Wild lmao

[faint niche]

I just watn more damage so I can get rift a little easier cuz I am having a hard time on my current rift with killing them all before respawns on my 3rd toon

[sacred verge]

yeah at your stage it matters

im just saying it makes no difference at my stage if im at 100T, 200T or 200Q

[faint niche]

Got ES and DK done with it, now to figure out which will be the 3rd >.<

oh true

[sacred verge]

when you get late into w5 its also quite easy to build dmg

[reef bough]

I can't found it

[sick sentinel]

are you on mobile or pc

[reef bough]

Android

[sick sentinel]

so when you go in the thread, click the banner at the top where it says weekly boss, then the settings cog, then pinned messages

its very annoying to get to now

[empty glade]

Im doing something wrong?

[sweet pine]

cloud save then check again

[empty glade]

Also what does it even mean? 10 = 6% 100 = 12% 1000 = 18% and so on?

[odd sable]

Yup

For the artefact to show , just leave w5 and get back in

[empty glade]

Alright

Also i just keep going to the next island, get its artifact than the next, when do i go back for ancient form?

[odd sable]

At least when you finished every island , to make your boats as fast as possible and better loot on chests

For more artefact probability

[empty glade]

Aight

I already got rubic's cube ancient form awhile back on accident

[odd sable]

Yeah , it happen

And there is a 3rd form After

With rift if I remember well

[swift rose]

does CC affect sigils?

thx idk why i forgot

[keen trellis]

Sadly

[fathom lagoon]

Would be so op

[runic token]

Off to grind green fish!

[fathom lagoon]

Bulba

[noble sable]

Good thing I unlocked the island yesterday

I have to make some new samples later

[void belfry]

btw why not level qs?

[tall horizon]

People put over importance in damage

It's faux progression

[runic token]

illumi

[pearl cedar]

[tall horizon]

Sorry, didn't mean to leave the truth all over the place.

[signal osprey]

Its fine if youre already end game

The problem is people who dont know what theyre doing see endgamers do shit like that and then emulate it without understanding why

[hollow rock]

hm... for anybody who's done this before, say for fishing. does it keep the highest print you get for 3d printer? or does it go for the latest print you've taken

[signal osprey]

It keeps your highest

[hollow rock]

ok. good. that makes things much easier

and should maestro have skilled dimwit on? or just leave it b/c maestro needs exp more than eff

[signal osprey]

Having 100% efficiency is very important because you dont get exp if you fail to gather a resource

So if you're below 100% and dimwit will get you there then it will usually be an exp increase despite the curse

[hollow rock]

right. so just leave it off unless I genuinely need it for 100%.

[pearl cedar]

If the truth is spicy

You shouldn't do that because it could get in people's eyes

[fallen torrent]

@cerulean hemlock its running if you wanna watch now :p

[hallow kite]

why would more sailing chest slots help me more than bonus xp?

for merit points

[pearl cedar]

Cuz artifacts hard to get

[pearl cedar]

For true minmaxing it can become a wonky mix of dimwit, balance of proficency, and transfusion.

[hollow rock]

right, I saw somebody mentioning the counterbalancing of all the curses and buffs

[pearl cedar]

Yeah iirc for fishing my max gains were using all 3, for catching it was using transfusion and dimwit and for chopping/mining it was balance of proficiency and transfusion. But been awhile since I've been skilling

[signal osprey]

Man I should have done W2 colo first. Doing it after W3/W4 makes it feel even worse

[pearl cedar]

W2 is so bad

I need to start colo running agaib

[signal osprey]

Especially with the increased orb talent levels

I was able to do 4 W4 and 3 W3 per orb

W2 is still stuck at 2 though

[fast grail]

True progression is defense

[signal osprey]

True progression is doing colo until you burn out and quit the game

[pearl cedar]

Lol fmj would be an even worse meme for noobies to blindly follow than QS. I like it

[short sparrow]

It's better to spam normal chiz rather than do chaotic for scarf drop right?

[fast grail]

There will always be sources of damage, FMJ will almost certainly be the only real source of defense

[granite grove]

normal boss usually has the best rates relative to keys spent

whereas harder boss has less, but you save more effort/time to grind

[pearl cedar]

We need a quadratic bubble for base defense

[signal osprey]

Gotta rework fmj too to make it apply to base defense

[pearl cedar]

Ah shit does it not affect base def?

[signal osprey]

The % bonus only applies to defense from equipment

[granite grove]

def % from equips only, plus base defense based on class lv

[pearl cedar]

Shows how little I know about this game. Might as well quit now

[signal osprey]

Tbf I just found that out a few days ago when camp corrected me lol

[pearl cedar]

Oh you can quit with me then

[signal osprey]

I always thought it just gave % increased to all defense including base

[patent hatch]

% def vial coming

[pearl cedar]

Would be worthless unless it was a separate multi

[signal osprey]

Place your bets now on how many of the 10 vials are maxable

[tall horizon]

7

How much is the ante 🤔

[pearl cedar]

Inside scoop

[signal osprey]

Hah I cant believe a mod fell for it

Thanks for the spoiler nerd

7 vials confirmed 😎

[pearl cedar]

The 3 non maxable vials are the new salts

[granite grove]

3 rare drop vials

[barren otter]

rash... you cant be spillin secrets like that

[granite grove]

inb4 1/1b drop

[signal osprey]

DK damage

[pearl cedar]

God I hope

[true obsidian]

get ready for w6

[tall horizon]

I'm easily bribed

[granite grove]

how much for idleon source code

[true obsidian]

i just say...less than Doot

[signal osprey]

Cant wait for there to be a godshard and a marble bar vial

[tall horizon]

if you have to ask, you're not ready to play 😛

[true obsidian]

marble bar vials? lv 13 not gonna happen...

i don't event think lv 10 is possible

[tall horizon]

my brain broke, was trying to ponder how exactly we'd drop godshard coins to get a vial

[pearl cedar]

Cant wait for godshard bar to cost more ore than forge capacity

[signal osprey]

According to the wiki its half the ore required for marble bar

Lava skipped a bar lol

[pearl cedar]

Currently it is half of marble. Subject to change when released

[signal osprey]

True but half of marble means 5x dreadlo

So its not like it needs to be made any worse

[pearl cedar]

It definitely needs to be worse

[granite grove]

requires maxed forge cap bonus from arcade with all other bonus just enough to forge a single bar

[signal osprey]

"What do you mean they cant even fit a single bar in their forge" 🤔

[paper sail]

20k godshard ores for a single bar

[signal osprey]

Honestly forget godshard ore

I kinda like the idea Rash had about using coins

Lets smelt some cash into bars

[sweet pine]

cash bar

[paper sail]

1.1b godshard coins still gonna hurt

[signal osprey]

You wish it was only 1.1b

Its 1.1b bars for the vial. Its 10 coins to a bar

[true obsidian]

at this point, Lava just sell bars... like 1000 godshard coin = 1 bar, ez money?

[paper sail]

From 10 to 1000 coins just like that

[signal osprey]

This is why a W5 colo would be cool

Imagine the chests drop dreadlo bars

[true obsidian]

imagine w6 colo chest have very low chance to drop boss amors recipe...

or like w5, vman weapon recipe

[signal osprey]

Imagine W6 colo exists...

[paper sail]

Imagine W6 exists

[signal osprey]

W6 was a hoax all along

[tall horizon]

||spoilers next time, now everyone knows the punchline before the joke =(||

[true obsidian]

imgaine unluck world 6 = 💳

[paper sail]

Instead of boss gem, w6 quest requires sacrificing 1 doot companion

[signal osprey]

|| ||

[signal osprey]

Taking hard stuck to a whole new level

[fast grail]

Fun fact, FMJ is also the only “from equipment” bonus that I know of that increases obols as well

[signal osprey]

Truly the best bubble in the game

[sweet pine]

wondering if you can balloon divinity if w6 release

if can

[signal osprey]

I doubt it. That sounds pretty broken lol

[sweet pine]

lvl 155+ for everyone

[signal osprey]

If balloons work theres no reason to stop there

[cobalt nymph]

I finally got my hands on

now to level all my alts skills up..

[paper summit]

yea passive card are pog

[steady beacon]

"No no the green fish isn't one that's a glitch, don't preemptively grind greenfish" I don't get it! What's he hinting at?

[signal osprey]

A glitch

[true saddle]

any lower level citron guide? (wave 50?)

[paper sail]

Not sure if serious..

[steady beacon]

Scoli, is that directed at me?

[manic moat]

wow, leveling BB in worms afk will take ages

[steady beacon]

It's a legit question.

Like, is he saying "it's gonna feel like a glitch, but it's not"?

[paper sail]

He's showing that the green fish which is already in the game is going to become a vial in w6

[steady beacon]

Yeah, but what's the glitch reference?

[paper sail]

Not a reference. It is a very bad joke

[steady beacon]

Oh. Ok, lame.

[paper sail]

Like "avert your eyes, don't peek at this new upcoming thing I'm blatantly showing you"

[steady beacon]

Thanks.

[manic moat]

12 hours just for 1 level...

how can I speed this up a little?

[steady beacon]

Thought there was more to it.

[paper sail]

Play actively instead

[true saddle]

if talking about me yes im serious

[manic moat]

with BB?

[steady beacon]

Got stung by the "hoard bobjoepickles" hint and didn't hoard enough right when islands released, figured id check if this one meant something more.

[paper sail]

Active is hundreds of times faster than AFK exp, yes

[manic moat]

didn't know it works like that for BB, I"ll let it run overnight then I guess

[paper sail]

Not like he gave us much warning lol. He said buy them and then dropped the content 3 days later

[steady beacon]

Yeah, but the real trick was dropping the equinox req in a later update, no?

[paper sail]

Works like that for everyone. Crystals plus the Active EXP cards / star sign go brrr

[steady beacon]

We only needed like 4 for islands.

Not vial, equinox

[signal osprey]

Only 15 more pickles until I'm free

[manic moat]

so you would still do the crystal cards in the corners and not any exp ones?

[steady beacon]

To me, the "hoard pickles" was a hint for equinox, not islands.

[kindred spade]

Does omniphau’s bonus for pet breeding speed up spices or shiny progress?

[paper sail]

I got better results doubling Demon Genie + Moonmoon, rather than Genie + Poop

[manic moat]

good to know, thank you

[signal osprey]

At this point its probably better to just wait until W6 and get 500 pretty easily

[cobalt nymph]

Do you get this ''You can now get Eclipse Skulls in Deathnote, unlocked at 1,000,000,000 kills. Eclipse Skulls are worth 20 points, and you also get +5% Multiplicative Damage.'' for every single ecplise skull you get? or only once (the 5% multiplicative damage)''

[paper sail]

Every

[cobalt nymph]

ohh that's a big one then

@paper sailremember i said i'd get back to you in a week and fix my alchemy!?

im working on it, it aint perfect yet.. but it's no longer w2

[signal osprey]

Alchemy

[empty glade]

Which gives more XP? The w6 fish or equinox fish?

[manic moat]

you talking active fishing? equinox fishing afk only lasts 2 minutes

[empty glade]

Oh i didnt know that, nvm then

[manic moat]

anyone got a screenshot of what an active BB attack bar would look like?

right now I'm just using them all xD

[paper sail]

I don't think it has any impact really. I put the Fired Up first, then everything else after 😛

..I don't know what that is actually called. Probably not Fired Up

[manic moat]

i figured, just mob respawn and blow them all up, repeat

yeah, fired up and combustion

[paper sail]

I didn't get a single Glass Shard during my nightly colos

Hell yeah, forgot to reset my PO streak too

I don't have to do it today 😄

[signal osprey]

I'm doing nightly W2 colo as well

Only next time I do different colos in the same day I'm doing W2 first. It feels even slower after doing the other colos

[paper sail]

I'm doing some pokemon raids at the same time. Made my colos take way longer. Kept looking up to see ~45 seconds left on Orb which isn't enough to run again. Look back at the switch for 5 minutes

[signal osprey]

I can safely say I dont think I will ever run this much colo in one day ever again

[paper sail]

Sounding like my bosses now

"Probably everyone will definitely benefit from cameras on next meeting"

Speak for yourself, extrovert

[signal osprey]

I feel that

A camera would make it more obvious that youre distracted when you run colos during meetings

[slender sandal]

just wear a horsemask or something or make it extremely uncomfortable for others to have your camera on

[haughty flower]

of the w5 gem shop bonuses, should i spend stuff on divinity? seems like the most useful?

[dapper prism]

just use the ai plugin that makes you always look at the camera, profit.

[rough wasp]

I got a fat 30 tickets today

to not run it

[signal osprey]

Rule 4

[dapper prism]

Huh, this isn't about the game o.o

It's about work not catching you not working

[glacial venture]

you wrote rule 34 wrong

[signal osprey]

You have to run them after you see what I've been up to

Only 28 more colos to go

[paper sail]

[signal osprey]

I should roll for those books at some point

[paper sail]

190 and 149 now. Had 10 left, yolo

Getting really tough to tell which talents I still could book

[tardy ridge]

Guys is it ok to have 3 v man?

Why explain

[signal osprey]

Its probably not ideal but in the current state of the game its also kind of okay. Wouldnt recommend though

[tardy ridge]

V man get tons exp

[sick sentinel]

[signal osprey]

If you mean right/left hand those dont stack

[tardy ridge]

Ok lucky me that i didn't do it yet

[paper sail]

Generally not even good to have 2 secret class characters

3 is just a meme account

[rough wasp]

how many tickets did u do today

[signal osprey]

Clicking I did a little over 100

But more importantly I actually started using some for the first time in weeks

[shy flame]

is there a best char to active on for farming hampters?

[signal osprey]

ES

[shy flame]

thanks

[pale crag]

Es good for base mats(first page mats )
Dk good for rare mats(rare bag mats)

[shy flame]

I just need like a thousand of these lil guys and it'd be nice to get them asap so my poor neglected vmen get major gear improvements

[pale crag]

You need 900 for 3 main weapons
200 for mat bag
Idk 500 for vman weapon?

[shy flame]

vmen means 1k for vmen weapons

but yeah, 500 per vman molten knuckles

[pale crag]

So you need 2k for 10 mat bags
900 for 3 of 3main weapons
500 for vman

[shy flame]

i think there's a reason to get vial level 4 on all vials (except the pickle ones for obvious reasons) so don't forget all the hampters for that

[pale crag]

[paper sail]

To please the AutoReview To get some Shaman Damage

[shy flame]

seems less bad than spending 1.5k garbage for +1 slab at least

[pale crag]

I am late w2

[paper sail]

Oh man, how long has it been since I looked at my islands

[fast grail]

Instructions unclear, ended up leveling FMJ

[signal osprey]

Shaman damage

[paper sail]

[shy flame]

see if contract can do it then eventually, many years from now, so I can

[pale crag]

[signal osprey]

I didnt do it though lol

[pale crag]

I can make it lvl 2

[signal osprey]

Thats only a level 2 vial

[pale crag]

But not gonna

[signal osprey]

No level 4 for me

[shy flame]

If I can do it many years from now then eventually 3 days later contract can do it too

[paper sail]

A minute

[pale crag]

[eternal wasp]

[signal osprey]

Thats some bottles

[paper sail]

2x 0 loot

[signal osprey]

Double obol drop

[pale crag]

Or 2helm

[paper sail]

I will logg off for the night if so

[fast grail]

You know, since i unlocked Rando island, i dont think ive done a single event on it

[eternal wasp]

[signal osprey]

I look forward to my rando tbh

Its kinda lit

Its given me 2 glacial obols

[paper sail]

I'm just making it up these days idk

[signal osprey]

I'm just pumping garbage too

[granite grove]

more specifically ES good for farming items from the mobs it duplicates (portal DR bonus only applies on portal mobs)

whereas DK orb multiplier affects everything including miniboss

[signal osprey]

Going to at least 15

[paper sail]

I've only gotten 1 iceguard obol 😦

[signal osprey]

Then all in on bottles to scale up rando over time

Gotta play the long game and work on the full family and personal obol pages

[pale crag]

15 hampters on 12hr afk not bad ig

[signal osprey]

I dont remember my afk rates but I know my BM parked at hampters for an eternity lol

[shy flame]

only 985 to go if you also have two vmen

[signal osprey]

He afked like half of my bags and weapons at least

[pale crag]

Nope only 1vman

[shy flame]

some of us don't intentionally cripple our accounts by not checking resources ahead of time and it shows

[pale crag]

I could just keep everyone on hampter farming

Finally the 1%

[shy flame]

Is it an okay idea to level up shiny pets who have w6 bonuses before we know what the bonus is?

[raven fog]

I feel like we should grind the green fish and not trust lava in future content

[signal osprey]

I got mine all to 5 and that was fairly quick

I wont invest more time than that until I see what they are

[glacial venture]

i wont grind the greenfish

i just print it^^

[shy flame]

what is green fish

[paper sail]

I took my W6 shinies to level7. Gamble though, they could be trash

[signal osprey]

I hate that on the day I start thinking I might do W3 instead of W2 from now on I get the best candy rates I think I've ever gotten in W2

I'm stuck in W2 forever

[rough wasp]

w3 is nice when u brainfart and dont reenter

[paper sail]

Ha

I got it for free

Thanks Alchemy

[signal osprey]

I found out today that at 320 orb you can do 3 W3 runs per orb

[rough wasp]

yeah i think we did talk about fitting 3 orbs in w3 once

(when i did w3)

thats good to know that its 320 orb tho

[signal osprey]

You've technically always been able to if you dont care about getting max gems and only wanting candy

Because you could just skip chests

[rough wasp]

yea true

[signal osprey]

But I didnt even have to do that

[rough wasp]

the chests are kinda shit in w3 so w/e

but GS chizoar keys

lowkey i might go back to w3 then

and speedrun

[signal osprey]

I was also doing W4 colo too

4 runs per orb

[rough wasp]

thats 4 runs/orb

[paper sail]

Hot damn. Went for the 25% and got it too

[rough wasp]

1 more day for 210 multitool

[signal osprey]

Only 7 more runs

[rough wasp]

oh only 160 tickets

yeah fuck that

ima do 3 runs of w3 colo

[signal osprey]

I may not be great at math but I'm pretty sure 160 tickets is enough for more than 3 runs

[glacial venture]

close call

[paper sail]

Hurry traps, I wanna go to bed

[signal osprey]

I'm ready for bed too. This is the most colo runs I've ever done in one day

[rough wasp]

3 runs is enough for my braincells

[paper sail]

[signal osprey]

Last run

100 W2 colos to finish off the night

This makes 300 total runs with the 100 I ran in both W3 and W4

Never doing this again

[gray pagoda]

Why are people doing W2 colo runs exactly?

[signal osprey]

It averages out to the most candy per ticket

[paper sail]

That image right there should be obvious 😅

Fat stack of loot

[gray pagoda]

Ah, I see. That makes sense.

[swift rose]

looks the same as the w3 from earlier

[signal osprey]

It is about the same candy total per run yes

But W3 takes 3 tickets instead of 2

So you get less candy per colo ticket in W3 or W4

[gray pagoda]

And that 1 ticket adds up over time

[signal osprey]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

My W3 and W4

[paper sail]

Do the maffs

[gray pagoda]

What's the hiding? 👀

[paper sail]

Total hours / tickets on each

[signal osprey]

Nothing

Thats why hes sad

I didnt get a 72 hr in the 100 runs

[gray pagoda]

Makes sense lol

[prisma drift]

When 100 w1 Colo?

[rough wasp]

[gray pagoda]

Does anyone know how the Montag emoji got its name?

Like, I get the Fahrenheit 451 reference, but why is this emoji representing him?

[signal osprey]

Altogether that was 1100 colo tickets spent today

[gray pagoda]

We need more colo npcs. Three a day ain't cutting it

[rough wasp]

I did a quite a few w1 colos

[gray pagoda]

I have an addiction that must be satisfied

[rough wasp]

[paper sail]

I've wondered the same. No idea

[signal osprey]

And that 700k gets me closer to the 100m I need for blue stacks in W6

[rough wasp]

i bet @fierce oracle is gonna get his second hourglass GS before i GS mine

[fierce oracle]

[paper sail]

Squirm

[paper sail]

I barely have more than what Contract farmed just today lol

[knotty helm]

WTF is a mallay pet?

[fierce oracle]

this guy

[rough wasp]

its me

[paper sail]

Mallard. Duck

[knotty helm]

Where do you get this?

[fierce oracle]

5th w2 pet

[knotty helm]

Oh

Wiki is formated weird

I searched and it didnt come up

[fierce oracle]

yeah its divided by world iirc

[cobalt nymph]

is this lava skull in rift just pure rng xd?

oh got it nice

[signal osprey]

I also made this while doing bar claims in between the colos. gstack soon

[rough wasp]

marble bars new vial

[signal osprey]

I'm still waiting for lava to use the marble bars for the biggest meme imaginable

W6 has only one single forge cap upgrade

And its the marble vial

[gaunt shale]

[rough wasp]

[cobalt nymph]

does the get 1m afk kills in rift count on multiuple chars?

[knotty helm]

Do pets give a diffrent amount of xp

@cobalt nymph YEs

[cobalt nymph]

can i just dump all of my characters in there and get it faster?

[knotty helm]

Yes

[cobalt nymph]

nice ty

[gaunt shale]

no, but more rare eggs give more xp

[knotty helm]

Ah so breeding is just GIGA slow there is no tactic

[gaunt shale]

well, I would use eggs on pets you use when not trying to unlock new ones when using up eggs, cuz, yknow, might get lucky and new strong pet comes out

but besides that

[normal minnow]

i need S and P player ratings anyone can help me out?

[gaunt shale]

first letter was it right ?

[normal minnow]

yep

[gaunt shale]

I have an S

[normal minnow]

alr

im at booky 11

mimic map

[gaunt shale]

@normal minnowlet me check if i typed it wrong

[normal minnow]

alright

[gaunt shale]

did it have to be capital S ?

[normal minnow]

1 star, game sucks!

[gaunt shale]

no as in, did the character name have to be capital S ?

[normal minnow]

OH

i guess so?

[gaunt shale]

then I cant help sorry

[normal minnow]

all g

[knotty helm]

I have one

[normal minnow]

thanks for offering to help tho

[normal minnow]

oh nice

booky 11

mimic map

[knotty helm]

I need like 5 mins

[normal minnow]

alr

back to farming mimic cards

[knotty helm]

whats your name

[normal minnow]

jesus4thholder

got it

thanks

[knotty helm]

While I have you can I knock out a few things

[normal minnow]

huh

oh yea sure

what do you need

[knotty helm]

snake and to do a bunch of the kill a party achievments

[normal minnow]

snake?

w2 dungeons?

[knotty helm]

no

[normal minnow]

oh

[knotty helm]

also I now hjust need someone in a party

for a few mobs

boards first

[noble sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717142159790440584/1200319206424580096/20240126_025929.png?ex=65c5bf5f&is=65b34a5f&hm=6dfcc2546c34be9b8de239bd98e7075396c7dacac807d762d8a7517972cf0c6d&

just copium

[fierce oracle]

git gud

[noble sable]

shh noob

[knotty helm]

Next rats

[normal minnow]

lemme do boards rq

i also need the achieve

[rough wasp]

git gud

[knotty helm]

Oh sure I assumed you were working on it while I was lol

Oki GG I dont know if there is any other stuff that needs A party

[normal minnow]

dont think so

[slate vector]

Always have to grind for these damn Nuget Cakes

[slow ruin]

When we getting sound effects/music for world 5

[hybrid halo]

You guys play with sound?

[slate vector]

Forgot there was sound, muted it immediately when I started playing... just turned it back on... immediately muted

[chrome tiger]

[slate vector]

Why did I just see a bubo wearing boxing gloves?

[hybrid halo]

I used to have sound on sometimes but then W3 mobs started having a death sound and havent looked back.

[slate vector]

Instead of a staff?

[hybrid halo]

Its for a aura build, aura triggers when close to mobs.

[lapis elm]

boxing gloves make it so you run at an enemy closer so your aura doesn't stack in weird places

[slate vector]

Oh

Interesting

[lapis elm]

It also helps prevent auto attack locks

[slate vector]

So the weapon power eventually doesn't matter that much

[hybrid halo]

Correct

[lapis elm]

Weapon power What a great stat surely

[warm parcel]

I miss when spears worked better than gloves

[lapis elm]

Just like the vial says

[lapis elm]

saaaame

[hybrid halo]

When active afk Mman was still viable

[warm parcel]

He’s technically slightly better than then. It’s just everyone else got magnitudes better, while he stayed more or less the same. Also, not caring about w4 or w5 skills took away any opportunity he had to stay relevant, I think.

[slate vector]

These last two crystal mobs on crystal island just wont stop respawning

[warm parcel]

Lucky…

[slate vector]

It would be if I killed them faster

[warm parcel]

Wish granted: Remove choco chip. They’ll stay dead.

Or just leave. That’ll also do it. Idk why you aren’t having fun with them, but they’ll get the hint if you leave in the middle of one of their stories.

[slate vector]

Its over

lvl 271 -> 293

[molten halo]

where can I see this?

[hybrid halo]

https://idleontoolbox.com/

Account>W5>Gaming

[raven fog]

When u reach max snail do u get -1.5 percent

[dusky ocean]

Yes

[raven fog]

Did u reach there

[dusky ocean]

Yes

[raven fog]

Bice

[paper summit]

how do you boys do 100k statues on alts?

[tacit tulip]

mining

[paper summit]

even on sb?

and wizards?

[tacit tulip]

as long as you're 100% hitting the node yeah

multiskilling doesn't give more rare mats

[paper summit]

any node fine or should i aim for a specific 1

[tacit tulip]

the higher ones give better statue rates, so dreadlo if you can

More skill speed/Afk%/Drop rate will help too, of course

[jagged gate]

anyone got a setup for goblin forest worship to get Wave 120 with lvl 42 poison tower?

im just getting overrun on waves 116-120 by the normies

[tacit tulip]

#💖future-content-blog message

wish I'd sampled the new fish before letting ym relic stock up

[hybrid halo]

Its the only new fish I don't have sampled, lovely.

[raven fog]

Guys for those libg gaming days should i pick everything except chemical or should i leave the bush berry abd cactus although they lower my chemical chances

Oh i got tricked i thought öast super bit gives *10 levels but it hives plus 10 max level

[normal minnow]

Anyone have a char starting with "P"

has to be capital

[proven iron]

Hmm, so my Es gets ~200 power statues per hour. (without anyone in lab) So im nearing the end of my ~100h active farming onyx grind.

[open lava]

lets go 🥳

[proven iron]

Huh, i wonder why its so fast.
Though my will almost catch up with gaming upgrade, but still.

[tidal comet]

is this fella good/rare?

[hybrid halo]

Chow and superchow?

[proven iron]

Hmm i counted, and yeah probably a lot of things.
I need gaming MSA, ancient triangle from sailing and purple lab jewel. More turkey with that as well as more cabbage after MSA, and it will catch up. I probably just set up my spices better and checked them more often so my spice levels are higher but overall progress is significantly lower.

100m chows are still too far away for me, no way my berserk will kill 100m of almost anything in reasonable time, but i need to keep it in mind.

[upper elm]

guys i finally made it to W5... is the afk everyone at divinity thing a meme? or for real?

[hybrid halo]

Not a meme

[proven iron]

Yes you need first 3 gods, then you can go do whatever, more or less. If it takes too long, you can take 2 gods and leave for a bit.

[hybrid halo]

Most of us candied 100M up to W5

[proven iron]

With lab bonus + noobisect and proper setup it will be like 250k per hour. Maybe a bit more. lets say 1 mil per 3h.
300h afk for shrooms, ez.

[hybrid halo]

Afk rate looks a little low

[chilly siren]

you want the bonus mk per tier prayer bro

[proven iron]

Hmm yeah it should be higher thats in skilling card/starsign setup. So it should be a bit higher.

But yeah i doubt i'll get higher than 400 maaaybe 500k per hour

[hybrid halo]

Something to work on for sure, don't underestimate the power of chows in terms of cooking speed.

[proven iron]

Yes if its 1.1 per mob and its multiplicative its quite isane boost

[quartz oriole]

is this useful for anything?

[chilly siren]

+1 slab

[ocean fox]

What should I save up my stamp discount for once I'm done with matty bag, mason jar, multi tool, and the crystal?

[quartz oriole]

nice so i can just throw it

[proven iron]

I just hit lvl 200 pet arena, and opened all snow spices... earlier than its probably intended, so i literally almost cant cook w3 food because i dont have enough speed.

[hybrid halo]

Uhm log samples?

[quartz oriole]

isn't the slow speed bad?

[chilly siren]

it give 5% chop eff
not really useful imo

[hybrid halo]

Youre not chopping logs with your pick axe tho

[quartz oriole]

ooh my god it's a pick!

i missed that

[hybrid halo]

Hold on to it, it is useful

[lyric sequoia]

Literally bis for log sampling, definitely don’t get rid of it

[vague yoke]

That moment when the snail goes from lvl 14 to lvl 10 :<

[wintry seal]

i heard that the deathly cluster pendant was the best pendant, but is that still true for classes that have no problem with mob respawn, like DK?

[worldly gulch]

giant crystal mobs are taking forever - i kill one in ~5 minutes and forgot ybout choc chip respawning them lol

this is gonna take a while

[hybrid halo]

Mob respawn only matters afk, the divine scarf is the best afaik in that regard

[wintry seal]

gotcha, makes sense, thanks

though i'm not exactly at that range getting - or using - that

oh right i should get chizosars

[hybrid halo]

Chizoar caustic scarf before divine

[wintry seal]

right, need to get more people to go through W3 so i can run him more often

[fading oracle]

#💖future-content-blog message New sailing artifact?

[shy flame]

might be new gaming import idk]

[clever narwhal]

Me: how am I ever going to level Hocus Choppus if it costs a few million nails per level
Also me not having bought a single anvil point for 7/10 of my characters

[hybrid halo]

Atoms Eventually with atoms

[shy flame]

gotta get it to 100m mat cost before atoms

[clever narwhal]

I have 19 greenstacks, my max print is 1m oak xd

Atoms are a few time units away

[wintry seal]

omg 1 point away from giving the bear a hearty meal

hm weird some peeps have unlocked chakra while others didnt

[pastel bramble]

[dire anchor]

that is 350x my maximum nugget chance

[hidden loom]

How does it work that my second BB doesnt need to stack superchow aswell?

[pastel bramble]

i need a upgrade though not a 1% upgrade 😄

too close for comfort 😄

[dire anchor]

yeah fair enough

[pastel bramble]

both bbs, first one gets most eff on mobile and 2nd one on pc, from what i got told

[pastel bramble]

especially when my max is 691m 😄

[dire anchor]

yeah thats fair enough jesus 691m would be an insane bonus

[pastel bramble]

id be happy with 300m

[dire anchor]

my IT doesnt show nuggets since upgrade but im thinking its a bonus im missing so far

[pastel bramble]

do u have equinox purchase

because you need equinox in order to start stacking nuggets

[dire anchor]

yeah i think thats what im missing to see it on IT

been slacking on equinox bc i never really did dungeon

[pastel bramble]

you need that upgrade then because every nugget that doesnt increase ur current nugget adds x buff to ur min/max rolls

[cunning snow]

💀

[pastel bramble]

and stacks until u upgrade

[dire anchor]

ye ye makes sense

[proven iron]

Ill be happy with like 10k nugget. Im sitting on 2k for more than a month I think

[pastel bramble]

you just have to fully commit to rolling nuggets all day everyday

[dire anchor]

get the omni procs out and get the gaming claim chance bubble and pray that you profit

[lethal canyon]

any one here have the link for the IE auto check site?

[vapid lava]

Roughly what efficiency multiplier should I be aiming for to reach 1b oak sample?

[pastel bramble]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[zealous niche]

#1084911530417606656 houses all things like this, check it out sometime 🙂

[quartz oriole]

I was wondering since the rift gives account wide bonuses based on the total skill level of each skill across all characters, then how does it work with account wide skills like sailing, breeding and gaming? does it multiply the level of that skill by the number of my characters or does it simply take the skill level?

[keen elbow]

Works the exact same

If your gaming is lv92

Then it'll count at 920

[quartz oriole]

[proven iron]

[proven iron]

Every character has its own lvl still

I think it can even differ in some cases if exp bonus is different.

Continuing the question though. I noticed that not all skill give divinity pearls with bird. Am i wrong, or only some do?

[dire anchor]

is there a chance your skills are below lvl50? if below 50 i think it doesnt give pearls

[proven iron]

Nono, i'm talking about gaming, sailing, etc, and they are all way above 50.

[dire anchor]

ahhh i could only assume they dont bc you cant use the pearls on them?

but honestly i do not know if thats how it works

[proven iron]

I noticed that at least trapping does

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JZB9H/63efa766b6.png soon

[zinc torrent]

How high should I upgrade my kitchens bros? Should I just push all of my spices into them?

I have all of the lab jewels

[sand summit]

Afaik upgrading them all as long as it's still cheap for you is the way to go

Since there is a boost based on number of kitchen upgrades

[chilly siren]

you have other use for these first 3 spice ?

[sand summit]

I don't remember which spices are used in subsequent tables

But I do remember having to be careful about that

[proven iron]

Well first one is used in alchemy if i recall. Second one is nowhere, and thrid is speed for another table

Probably all non alchemy spices can be used freely

[dire anchor]

also beach spice and crypt spice are used for bubble

plus one more before those is used for something too

this is used for egg incubation time bubble too

[glossy gate]

Any tips on how to help vman catch up with skills?

https://tenor.com/view/nike-gif-21105858

My worshipping on my es is a bit too high soo idk men😩

[zinc torrent]

Well I'm at the point where spices cost 1b in alchemy

[proven iron]

Ugh. What should i do with invincible moonman?

[potent lily]

70 hours to go

[proven iron]

what is this even? If blue mobs are hit with voidinator while they are in ghost form they stay in it permanently?

[ionic dock]

!refinery

[obtuse orbit]

The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.

[ionic dock]

!refineryranks

Whatever

[potent lily]

Guys if i have 2bb and 1 dk is it ok?

[dim wind]

better the other way around

I had that too and I bought a swap token

[potent lily]

I hed no gems

[dim wind]

save em, get plenty of them for free

[humble garnet]

How to change sailing trader offer

[teal lynx]

2BB is not the end of the World. You can do plenty of stuff like get more Ladles and get better Fishing Prints
You just gotta play around the "features" of 2BB. If you play on PC you need to do all your Superchows on the second BB (if you are on mobile the first needs to do them). And as Sabobskia already said you can always swap them at some point. I also swapped mine from a BB to a DK

[quartz oriole]

you can also have 2 bbs and 2 dks

[teal lynx]

They swap every 6 hours

[potent lily]

Wdym i have 3 worriors lol

[quartz oriole]

did you get all your 10 characters?

[potent lily]

Yea im w5

[teal lynx]

Some people do 4 warriors and 2 archers. But be careful with that

[quartz oriole]

oh then definitelky follow Xayayah's advice

[quartz oriole]

what makes it risky?

[simple shuttle]

the 2bb 2dk is for when we get 11th char afaik

[cobalt nymph]

big fan of 1bb 2 dk's 2 es

[humble garnet]

Whats good about 2 sb

[teal lynx]

Lava introducing new classes and not giving another char slot and you locking yourself out for an unknown amount of time

[quartz oriole]

oh that sounds exciting 🤣

[teal lynx]

We can't know what Lava does so I always tell people to be a bit careful ^^

[cobalt nymph]

but ye the safest play would be 3 archers 3 warriors 3 mages and vman to be completely fair as xayah said lava introducting new cl;asses not giving a char slot might lock you out so the safest bet is 3/3/3/1