#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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going to worek on W5 leaves wich i have only 2m left to get
A week's worth of candy! Not bad at all
Woo hit 5k% con xp boost 
if ur characters anvil items are maxed before daily reset and you login to those characters after, it will deposit them. its pretty useless and hard to rely on if you are trying to be efficient, but can help if you forget to claim anvil items
Should I be concerned?
Yes
About what?
First quad cog
What's it made out of? 
its made out of shark actually
Actually it's made out of pixels
Actually its made out of 1s and 0s
Actually it doesn't even exist
in all of them 
Actually made out of mobile overflow 

WAIT A MINUTE
IF THAT'S TRUE THEN MY IDLEON ACCOUNT STILL EXISTS
Are you relieved or sad?
THE OLD ONE
IdleOn doesn't even exist 
That makes no sense
I hate lava.
It does not, the school was quick to terminate the email once you went into coma 
Shh, you'll get the hammer ๐
https://gyazo.com/be3b3819aa4be96ae35dd31764e8430a do i need this on every toon or just the one im claiming on?
500 nuggets rolled in 2hrs and still no upgrade 
Keep going

im on 17.1k total -.-
My head hurts from the bonks
Get to 20k
i swear the game is gonna make me go to 1bn and complete my dream of a 1bn nugget 
๐คฃ I got so many dice rolls that the game froze and crashed for vials
Is that on IE or IT?
Next time I won't drop all eighteen items at once
First 1b nugget 
toolbox
IT
2 more levels, then i use my 150 holy pearls and am level 500 on everybody
Only the one that is claiming the traps
thx dad
Ayyy
Too bad Xayayah is female.
Hi son!
Damn 10 holy pearls is 1 lvl even that high?
Yep
yes. save them. abuse them. purchase them at killroy.
They're very pogger
10% per pearl, everytime
its always 10 per level 
oop didnt even notice haha
Is he ok?
Yeah, sorry kiddo.
Go do your homework ;3
i love seeing you in chat A6. it's nice to have my mental conversations be like "Oh hey, i was just moseying along and then i was told by screams that i'm doing pretty well"
I should probably start using more holy pearls... I don't try to get them as often as I should ๐
i read all caps as yelling
๐คฃ I tend to be very.... acknowledged, eh?
am i reading this right if i get a total lvl of 300 skilling accross all 10 of my chars that means all the cards corrolading to that skill are now passive?
ya
Yep
omg that's amazing
Yeah, it's nice
wait but if you want to use card doublers i take it you still just put them in your card slots no?
okay perfect that's amazing haha thanks
no
You can't double passives
i'm wrong
I'm proud of myself for prepping skill obols
passives can't be doubled
oh?
they used to be able to get doubled, but not anymore
I wish they could 
if it says passive, it can't be doubled.
wait so...
y-y-yyeah, he's a meanie 
You double these two
that means unlocking this results in me no longer being able to double the efficiency cards?
u double the troll for eff
you can still double troll efficiency card, best efficiency card, then you just double amarok skill afk % and you're pretty golden
๐คฃ I'll get to kattle within two weeks
sounds great i hated having to do cards all the time
Pushing W5 is so easy 
so im more than happy with this being a thing
at level 167 that's pretty good
now i just need to unlock skill mastery in rift
Who do I active farm death note with?
Especially at 5.1M mx damage
ES probably
ES i tihnk?
I literally never used that prayer
that's what i did at least
Thanks guys
BB for both chow/zow/superchow
ES is best
๐คฃ I have to use it
If I don't, I'll miss everything
u do not active bb it has no respawn lol such a waste of time
Es portal mobs don't count for deathnote, bubo is the fastest active killer
DK if you care about multitasking. dem crystals
AFK BB, not active
skulls in rift are active only aren't they?
he asked for active ๐
Oh pfft. I'm stupid
Btw do the shrines go above lvl 100 in construction?
Yep
Not that I recall..?
from cons mastery yes
or is it 110?
Yep with construction mastery
Kk cool, I got the first 4 maxed at 100 , Iโll go check con mastery to see when I get the upgrade
answer questions all day, and learn something (or remember the right answer) for your own benefit. everybody wins
That's me but everyday
๐ Time to chuck stuff in my guide
It's still 44 pages
stupid complicated game
I forgot to add in BM for the "elite class" section
forgot
whats the consensous on lavas ballpit? left tilt?
can't blame you
BM is very good for farming killroy skulls, compared to SB, as it does not chuck bombs off the screen, miss shots, or do anything stupid, such as homing arrows attacking dead bodies.
BM is also very good, since it rules the TD world, one of the most tedious skills of the game, just like Breeding. BM is the only class in which it excels in a skill that it does not specialize in, which no other elite class can do.
The third reason is that BM, in terms of design, creativity, and it's unique abilities make it, by far, one of the most loved classes aesthetic wise! BM also helps you get through wave 200 in breeding, giving 2.00x DAMAGE!
Nah I can just copy paste this
Just curious is there anyone with fully maxed Construction yet ๐ค
Oh shit construction mastery makes the shrines go to max lvl 200
Right tilt is statistically better
Not even Contract has that
thank u
I've done right tilt for the past 2 lava ball pits, got 500 balls in total
I thought pancake was con god not contract
pancake is furthest in construction
Nice
Contract and Pancake are the same being.
I had luck with right tilt
They are blood brothers
so, left tilt gets you a higher floor, 15 up from 10, but usually caps at 40. right tilt, lets you flub more often, but you get ONE red hit and suddenly ALL your balls are going to the right. i get up to 400 balls back that way.
Yeah I know ๐
You better get those Killroy skulls converted to arcade balls
i also wait until i have 1000 balls before i arcade and usually get to try about 10 times, so i might be skewing results.
Btw in case anyone was curious you need 1500 total lvls in con to get the shrines +100 lvls
Only at 1381 
Go go go! ๐
noooooooo buy white pearls instead
until ur chars are 500
Iโve been doing em in batches of 100, tryna max drop rate before w6 when it switches the arcade shops
At lvl 94/100 rn
i was buying books like a sucker
Or just wait for w6 
w6 might be delayed, but those equinox symbols are important ๐
I'm trying
That's not class level 500
me too
not looking forward to trying to do the royal worm quest chain on my ES cuz clash of cans >.<
ive been focusing class levels ffs
And 100 ruby is the +4 levels
That chain is so annoying highkey
๐ always plinko balls
They help max out that DR
Class EXP can wait
Indeed, it's Yondergreen but more tame
I'M SO BEHIND
It tells you what the reward is tho
Right? Though the trophy looked better than the w2 one ive been using on my ES main
The fact you leveled Tab 1 talent point past level 10 kills me.
but that doesnt stop me reading and thinking i clicked the right one and reading another 
Critter% isn't bad
We all make mistakes
Bruhh you focusing them equally when DR should be #1 focus w this shop
That's why I upgraded it to 50
the other rotations are also equal is the more horrifying point
speaking of rotations we need another damn limited shop rotation 
Almost done with all critter vials so no need for more critters atm
With w6
Prob w w6 release
ya but he should have done with last update and didnt ๐
Not too bad, I'm 19/20 for those treat piles
I got a good 5 day's worth.
BM didnโt do shit for me in TD 
๐ That's with my help XD
i bought those first ๐ the payback is worth it
(Granted I overleveled my towers and came back to the point where I didnโt need halt)
Skill issue, he helped me
Remember when you asked me for help in W5 TD wave 50? 
Hahaha yes I do and you gave me a full on rundown๐
Has anyone done the onyx statue quest without the choco chip?
Our first interaction ^^
That's called insanity.
Alvin did it.
breaking down the new stuff for individual classes here is a choice. you could simply say "your choices were made back in w2. now you're just following through. get your elite classes asap." and leave the individual speels for another section to keep all the per class info together if you liked
guy in my guild is doing it, took him 3 weeks so far for 10k power ๐
I tried and stopped, too long
My waves are 
What's your guild name?
O.O niiiice
"help"
;3 Mine are at 40
That's fine
Better than mine
Sounds happy
elp
currently in the process
Can you send me a server invite? ๐
was a guild i joined when i first started to get help, and i stayed cause they nice 
My guild is terrible 
I left my DK farming overnight with con obols 
in your pm
he takes a day or two to respond to invites though mostly cause its full and he kicks inactives whenever a new joins
what class is he doing it on?
Ty ๐ I'm going to be a guest
dk i think
I'm the co-leader of this guild: #1160247054182908184
he has 7x drop rate thats why ๐
well too late now he already finished haha but ill know for next time ๐
I mean, it needs tests
but bubo spawns a lot more mobs compared to DK
so it might be enough to overcome the lack of orb
considering his drop rate is only 7x bubo is prob alot better just due to the quantity of mobs id guess ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Ikr
i tried to get him to farm obols first but he stuck with statues ๐
I forgot to brew up some new bubbles today ๐
You got place for another one? 
Another leader? ๐
Another member 
Jk, yeah sure!
Yo can I join it on my alt? I promise I'll do dailies every now and then
You're very active, so just join the server link there 
Sure ๐
Terrible guild 
๐ I got you there as well
Booly again @thin rose
Only speaking the truth
Yeah, my old guild was dead lol
;3
can you get multiple idle skilling trophies?
no
On different accounts, yes
On one single account, no
bro has experience
do you have the trophy on your new acc?
Heheh. nope
Why do so many people keep posting one of us

finally started atoming bob this week and it's nice to see my construction accelerate for the first time in...forever
Won a 50/50 on divinity pog
On Reddit? Itโs a vman thing
Even in discord I see it everywhere man
is there any specific ways to increase the chance at spawning big monsters on SB? to get the kills done for rift on the flag
more damage/movespeed
stand on biggest flattest surface so taht ur balls all hit something
Other than vman talent that guarantees them, no. Just get better dmg and kill them faster
oki
Vman ehancement
High crystal chance (Crystals give coins which let you spawn big monsters)
350% movespeed (at least)
More points into talents that hit more than one mob (mini cannon balls, the homing arrow)
I did it till 10k before someone informed me about choco
Is it the 25 talent point thing?
Yup
crystals dont spawn in rift though?
Oh I didn't see the rift bit
ye crystals don't spawn in rift
My mind always goes to farming for the achievement/talent haha
alright thanks!
as long as you oneshot the mobs it shouldn't be too hard
balls 
the homing arrows are very strong too
especially if you're on the long platform, they like to hit the platform above you
which ones do i keep bc they have greenstack potential?
all
all of them are farmable
2nd and 4th I'm sure are drops
1st idk and 3rd isnt
3rd only drops from level up gift and guild gift or something
u dont throw away xp 
1st is daily buy I believe
yes
2 and 4 I got greenstacked
Daily buy for a few hundred at a time. Gstack will be done in a few years
3rd one will never be gstacked
ye 1st is a dialy 600 buy
next automation arm upgrade
pray
i do too but then also i'd have to sell or drop some of it
ye... if you could just select a ''buy all food/pots'' option xD or let you select once what you want to buy daily
is there a specific order you should be doing gaming gardening?
finally done bb felt more awful than vman 
why am i not getting the doot abilities
its already active
nah nah nah, i was getting 170 bfor i unlinked it
they need to be level 2 divinity for doot to work
really? never knew that so pre-5 dooters cant abuse gods ๐
If you had doot before the patch you could
yeah he changed it soon after because it was busted af for pre-w5
"busted" "efficient" IDK man
as a proud doot owner, i can say even for w5 its still busted ๐
but i aint complaining ๐
imagine how fast you'd speedrun to w5 with all major links
putting everyone on div so i can get the bonus
First thing I am doing when getting to W5 is put everyone in Lab/Div to get them to Div 40
i wonder who was the first doot
like who got him first
i mean no one would believe em even if they claim it so
given the player base, probably alot of people got it on first roll when game updated
I'm a late dooter
iOS had to wait a week to even roll the first time
its worse when u realize every day u dont have doot is 240hr worth of progress lost from ele god ๐
iOS still has troubles with the update iirc
Eh thatโs if you donโt get cooking or breeding procs lol
all procs are good lol, especially gaming 
Yea I think you still canโt buy green gems but I can roll normally now
I've heard you can't recycle companions for green gems for example
You can
If you pay for the gems that bought the pet you can, free spins are locked
Idk about the free pets but you def can for ones you roll w green gems
Iโm at the point where breeding procs & cooking procs are less than ideal. Donโt do much for me, I guess breeding helps push breeding to lvl 100 but thatโs eh for me
Love me some 3d printer procs. I guess sailing wonโt be useful after I get my last few eldritch either
Cooking and breeding procs are terrible
I hate when I see cooking or breeding procs
Sailing is okay if you still need artifacts I guess but if not then its useless too
I don't hate breeding cause I still technically need exp but cooking can go away
My highest recipe is lvl 11 so Cooking proc is nice for me ๐
Would be cool if the breeding proc would affect shinies, but nope 
Would be sick if you could toggle which procs you wanted haha
1M coldseeker bullet done so far
Beefy pray sucks, right?
should do the regular one as well ๐ฎ
cooking proc converting to AFK gains as if you were cooking would fix that one
Yooo not a bad idea
Iโd rather ladle gain
the non BBs would produce less ladles but it'd still be better than now
first scarf after just unlocking it 
Damn you beat kruk w vman?!
Not for me, damage is damage 
Whatโs your vman dmg
I gained like 1t damage and lost 90% of my defense lmao
if you don't die it's perfectly average
ye was easy 36bil honestly was better than bb 
That happens when you combine both -def prayers lol
vman aint that weak when you consider all his multi hit talent
and crit damage
Sheesh
That makes sense lmao lemme check the other one
Oh the mkill one... no im keeping that Lmao
Having crazy Deja Vu rn
Or on easier maps, where you don't need that much defence
fully expecting day 1 world 6 "why did this crystal one shot me"
Can't wait for all the dumb questions
Iโm more excited for the chat when w6 comes out than w6 itself
Especially when we get the 11th char
WHICH CLASS DO WE PICK
"can char 11 not print?"
People forget how the game works
who has time for chat on day1
gotta focus on progress 
Actually, what class would yโall pick lmao
I don't have 2 DKs so the choice is easy
"Why is he alchemy level 1 the entire time?"
"Why does doot not work??"
I'm curious if account skills (breeding, sailing, gaming) combined with sheepie will mass trigger the level up gift when you first create char 11
Obviously a 2nd vman 
Just joking
printing was merrit shop, right?
i mean new slot
Let's trade!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm would be cool to see but Idts cause no way theyโd have div lvl 2 before it registers all the lvls on creation
ah 3d printer lvl
Oh wait sheepie nvm, not doot related
Would be cool though I think that would happen haha
Yep, you can't print with char 11 until you level the printer to 11
Sure, we just need to wait for trading to be implemented
100% people are gonna be confused about that
Which will never happen lol
i bet lava will forget how he made printing^^
True
Congrats
im 2 lv away from it ๐
I'm preconfused
just so I can do it before everyone else
As it should be. If the mods aren't confused, what's the point?
did he confirm we're getting a new char slot in new world, or people just speculating?
yall get me excited for nothing
now im all blue
Which will be sometime after w6
but deathjoepickle needs his death bringer 
Bonejoepickle
New worlds never come with their respective elites
dish bringer you mean
yeah if you give the new slot now people are just going to make the wrong class, which destroys the point of adding it
Some people thought we would get elite class upgrades 
Bold of you to assume I wont make another vman regardless of when lava adds the next slot

lava always said as long as u dont have 3 of a class ur fine, so 2 vman is fine too ๐
Contract gonna lock themselves out of an elite/master and still be better than all of us 
as vman has the same bug BB has, only second Vman gives the bonus
Quesiton on sampling gear --
Since these have 4 different setups
do you just take the setup you want for the thing you want the most of?
Hot take: Homing arrow is trash.
Or do higher samplers overwrite lower?
but pritner go brr works right 
Theres a 50/50 chance having a 2nd vman will be just as useful as one of the new classes lol
It's a coinflip! ๐ฎ
Agreed, it's so weak
How'd you even do 28 damage lol
isn't that pre-buff?
Low key Iโm excited to start a lvl 1 char and see what dmg they start at 
Damage overflow, doesn't exist anymore
W all the account buffs
Green damage numbers look pretty 
i did 9th, they only had 5k
Yea Iโm talking w my account rn
Ohhh I think I remember that.
It still exists when you one shot troll btw
What..?
How are you one shooting him if you're overflowing damage
That's nonsense
Like, the number shows up at 75000, not really overflowo, just visual
it's still not great but definitely better than it used to be
Arrows go a bit slower correct?
yeah
Huh, try normal troll on web with ES thunderstrike
homing is strongest skill of sb
when you have the coins fully going Brr, and crystals with choco, those extra stray kills do add up pretty fast
yep.
Huh. For me it only showed the 750000
cause you are weak
I feel like the worst (designed) talent was ice shards
On the old account, I mean ๐
when I still used it I sometimes saw ice shards hit in an aoe (as in, kill multiple monsters) and I could never figure out why. It looked super cool when it happened
same
Oh it's a pixel layout thing
It only happens on certain maps on certain pixel widths
For example, ice shards AOE works 100% of the time with bunched-up mobs in colo 4
Has to be in an area with no platform above it and have mobs close enough to the original target
reminds me of that toby fox tweet. Maybe that's why I like idleon too
Works on W2 and W3 colo as well
Pincermin/Sandcastles work sometimes
I love toby fox โค๏ธ
Might be no platform above or below? Can't recall 100%, but it's something like that
Yeah the talent just isn't worded like it can actually hit aoe. It reads like it hits the mob, and also freezes nearby mobs
Nope, W2 one actually works as well
The top layer
I did that for wizard micro
Also, it's worked on the middle platform for W3 colo for me
i used to use the gummies on the invisible platform at frogs and it would work there
So that theory is probably wrong
ohh yeah that too
Maybe because it's not visible in the code or something like that?
It's not a theory, just trying to recall what lava said. It's some interaction with platforms
well it is the highest platform there
So theoretically I could do iceshards on the top of suggmas and it would work?
Ice Shards is just a confusing AOE talent overall
Then you look at thunderstrike
prob not cause teh portal platform is higher
It doesn't work how it's supposed to for sure
barrage
That's the fun part of game development though. Shenanigans and hijnx are the coolest things
What is the best build for pet battle
I bet it would be easy to figure out now, just compare the code to lightning
depends exactly what you're trying to do
should tools be "enchanted" with the class main stats or the skill main stat?
Or asked in another way, should my bubos pickaxe get STR (for more efficiency) or WIS (for more damage) ?
Get more spices
Go for class stat, more beneficial
affermative
Stat sticks
Yep
My weekly reset just kicked in, Rash, someone asked if you could pin my guide link in the #1183482341474172938 pins
If you ever sample off-resources, you can just transfer the tool from another class. Really isn't worth bothering though
Assuming you have all 6 pets unlocked what you want is, from left to right:
Rattler Mono Looter Refiller Defender Refiller
Aim is to block the first volley of shots with your defender. If you do, set auto attack on. You'll likely win at this point.
If your front refiller dies at the start, restart the fight
Looter is so ovp
If you only have 5 slots, drop the looter. All pet battles can be done with 5 (but I wouldn't recommend it)
Done
Ok thx very much
Decent week
ooo solid dk room
Nature for EXP, royals for critters
Nature for experience, royal for.. someone else already answered. You can ignore this message
I don't have Royals yet, what is 2nd best for critters
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
5 day woodens technically, buy you get no exp
Hmm - so I need critters asap cus my refinery can't keep up
Yep
No archer yay
I'm contemplating getting a BM jusst for killroy
Why do you not have a bm?
I only have 6.5 days of time candy though
Everyone's working on goat
All I have are the bear neccesities atm ๐
(get the joke?)
No, explain it.
The Bear Neccesities Jungle Book song from Disney that kids watched when they were young?
I remember watching it when I was four
Get your elites ya bum
Any guide for tower defence W5? For 121+
Check the Equinox section
Just wanted to see if you'd actually explain it tbh 
I'm good at explaining stuff ๐
Why do people farm mushies with SB instead of ES, feels like ES is more k/h but its prob cuz its more decked out
Sb gives forge progress and better anvil prod
Bars are a grind, more important than a bit more kph
And my sb gets more kph than my es
Okay, thats a good answer!
SB is also generally more kph since onyx statues
another 500 done in 2hrs again
my eyes getting twitchy
ES has better active uses
I am always in need of more bars.
ES gets more KPH at the same damage but your ES will never have the same damage as your SB if they're built right
My ES is currently very decked out
People still active es? 
๐ Uhhhh
I dont wanna catch my others up until I can confirm w6 armor builds from metal armor
Yes
Weird
some do yes@tall horizon^^
You got a problem with that? ๐
incoming diabolical w6 armour
do i just 10 x my gaming level for this?
๐ฆ I'll thunder barrage you
Yep
oki ty
Hard to do without elites 
its a wizard spell 
I think you technically have to log your other chars in after levelling, as they don't get the level until you pop in haha
Ah damn, just checking your image you do have es
No, that's ice shards
nope nvm im wrong its a elite 
i log in every char atleast once every 10 hours so that should be fine
Sssh I fixed it lol
Does shared beliefs stack on both es? Or is it just the higher one that matters
You triggered RS memories thanks
ill trim your rune platelegs for you, gimme 100k for my effort
;3 I'm an ES main, remember?
My wife like ES the most too
I've convinced her to play bubo/DK more these days at least
but I'll still catch her on it regularly ๐
Same lol, but I was playing the league so very recent memories
citriscide is not funny 
Fun stuff ๐
I like sb for huge damage 
o7 ES best class
Uhhh I mean
BM best class

Then why dont you have one?
W-w-w-wwhat do you mean?
BM is the underdog, he's doin pretty solid for me right now. plus he levels up those shiny pets real nice
done like 5 shiny days of progress in a day
Bet kanna currently feels validated
time to do colos 
@gaunt shale I did this for you 
The 3rd preset still not unlockable?
well done 
Yep
Gotta keep the dream alive
Bubo or sb ๐ค
I think I'll go with SB for the sailing
good idea
both
;3 Everyone's stuck in divinity
you'll soon sit everyone in lab again, so bubo'll be useful
Meh, it'll take two days for Caaaaaannon to be a SB
True
Ehhhh I'll get the class now ;P
what's the best bubbles to up to improve sampling for particles?
I think I'm rly stucked in Alchemy
Just level up those skill eff% bubbles #1174753262365315203 This will help
do you use https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ it tells you in the alchemy
lol
anyone knows at what level tier 6 plants unlock?
with superbits unlock
You need to unlock a Superbit. This specific upgrade doesn't do that
Not really a waste so donโt worry. That increases your chance for evolution
Thanks a lot
how come I can atom a bubble on 1 char but not on my other?
Depends on the cost
The Classxxx is best
bubble
oh wait... you're telling me I've been wasting my resources by upgrading bubbles with the wrong classes
Yep lol
each class gets a discount for their specific cauldron
except yellow
no love for yellow
Yellow has larry
Ahh fuck I had no idea..
I see it now the bargain bubbles get amped by xxxbest bubbles
so you should really only upgrade bubbles on their respective classes..

A genius in the making 
unless you wanna hit that atom level and your not quite there, then switch class
I only noticed it because I was boosting up my mage bubble and realized I couldn't atom it ye t
and then by luck I was on my dk and checked something in alchemy and noticed I suddenly could atom it..
this will help me so much in terms of bubble clicking..
also you can turn off the stamp and vial boost in lab to get to that atom level if some are being a pain
Do infinite starsigns work on ones I haven't unlocked?
actually stamps might not matter, but i know there's a vial that drops costs
yes
Cool thanks
yes. if you want to double them with the starsign doubler you would need them unlocked and linked to tho
Yea that makes sense
I feel so stupid xd... haha
Like 3 hours later. I mean. 150 is pretty nice too.
But yeah. 8 hours sounds about right. I guess i'll try something a bit easier.
Anyone know why my chemical plants arenโt going to stage 5? Been over 24 legit hours plus doot procs and theyโre all still lvl 4โฆ cycle is supposed to be 9 minutes.
Paitence
You're lucky, just not how you want to be.
yea did you get the 6 man setup for 200?
For farming bean slices, would yโall recommend ES, bubo or dk? At 400m rn just tryna get the vial completed
it's only gonna get slower as you approach 200
es for farming main drop
how many t4 chems do you have? also what lvl is this?
Thought so but wanted to see if bubo or dk was worth it for any secondary considerations like con build rate, crystals, etc
do u need the superbit to hit t5's? and if so, do u have it?
i mean dk if you want to also farm statues on crystals while your at it
but he will have a lot less main drop than es
If I could be lucky in any way itโd be by getting this stupid suggma recipe Iโve been farming for over a week for now
7 and 201
u got this thing?
also like francis said gotta have the superbit unlocked
Sheesh. Yeah I have that one unlocked
Oof
Whatever do I let my archers do? I kinda want them on skilling build for anvil speed, but I kinda don't want them skilling cause printer is much more efficient
12 days for one 24 hour time skipโฆ might be better for me at this point to just do it at t4 until I get that other level up
u got your kitsune turned on?
Yes
Then wait longer
Keep them on skilling (which also gives prints ofc)
And then..... lab or divinity, your choice
gmush, deathnote, rare drops
Do eclipses
if you have the points, just spec the anvil related stuff on your fighting page
Gotta finish all eclipses before w6 drop 
Pepe looks insane
The cogtimizer?
Oh
;3 Guess the damage I got now
Atleast 6
Idk where it is, @signal osprey any ideas?
oh I don't remember where you were last time
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cPnTmidxHOYKtmdOIZjKllDkIgF40exhy6ZlL3ffScM/edit#gid=0
heres the og
Data
Scuffed Cog Stat Calculator!
For more info on how cogs work, go check out Xores#1684's guide in the pinned comments of #endgame-n-secrets
Highest Cons Level:,10,Main Cons Value*:,29.17129778,Min Flag Rate:,7
Nooby Cogs:,Min Cons Value (40%):,11.66851911,Max Flag Rate (single**):,36
Decent ...
king 
Last time we chatted when W5 dropped damage was at 2M I think. I've been in W5 for four days now 
make sure to only touch these boxes or they break... i did the same thing lol
gonna start doing this whenever I copy something
I might use that for my guide
four days of w5 and what's your damage now?
what do you think he meant by
interesting
maybe lvl 120 cauldron showing up?
is he finally gonna use the last liquid for bubbles?
hopefully not yet
would be nice as I've had it for a long ass time
could be looking at sigils
oh no please no more sigils
i got such a juicy chain going ๐คค
i have 18 chems rn and I don't want to click any more gaming... 
Those numbers look fine as far as I can tell
Indeed
5.2M ๐
found the issue, this number here was not a formula any more
Going places
harvest all
Your exp was still correct 
;3 brave thought I was supposed to have 500M by now
couldn't have been serious with that
He was XD
oh he....usually is
Brave is usually talking alot of shit ๐
Also IT has a calc now as well 
Especially for a 50 day f2p non autoloot account. 500m is pretty high 
IT goated on the sticks


I just unlocked rifts, veeeery roughly speaking - how far can I expect to get there with these stats?
roughly speaking - not far
Alright, thanks. Then i'll invest my time elsewhere
Just go get as far as you can and then you know how far you can go 
yep rift is worth doing until you cant, then come back with better stats later
But I get NOTHING if i dont reach at least 5/10/15, right?
how many nugs since yalls last best and what is your nug size? my nug size is 1.3m and 500 since last
83m
oof
you will be able to see if its starting to get difficult pretty quickly
Indeed ๐ข
and itโs also skill based so that determines how far you can go
LOL i am so gonna crush any skill based shit like a year later with over 9000 powerlevel
Skill is simply not happening
Wrong reply ๐ฆ
Heh. My RNG is off the charts...
Down the charts
k rift 2 completed. haters gonna hate, where are your "not very far" gods now?
get on my level!
i canโt count that low
What's your damage? 
Rift 10 would still be considered "not very far" tbh. But it would still get you an upgrade. That's why people told you to keep going until you can't progress anymore
Is there a divinity setup guide somewhere?
A small briefing ๐
Not that I know of! But I can give you some general tips
Not very helpful as there is no real benchmarks inbetween. You say I should compelte rift16 asap and only give a req powerlevel estimation for rift 30.
Oh! 1B for the first 30 rifts is what I recommended since the first few aren't very sufficient
I could only give average estimates
Since I did Rift at 300m damage and stopped after Rift 7
Then I got 1B damage and pushed to 35
I base my stuff off evidence I've done ;3
ur dmg is just so low none of us have researched those levels before
hahaha
oh well that happens when you basically skip from end of w1 to w5 in a few weeks
need to find some path through the missed mechanics
which is quite impressive none the less
the isssue is, most of us had damage way too high for rift when it got released, so theres not much info on what u need cause we all skippedpast it fast. ur best hope is to just go until u cant
I'll give a few suggestions instead.
Snake: Boosts overall skilling, good for getting skill exp quickly/leveling up quickly, good for sampling as well
Bear: Good for keeping your characters uploaded in lab, generally used for pushing worlds or letting that character level up in a different skill.
Nobisect: Great for pushing through monster maps, with its damage and multikill
Harriep: Best for printing, triples the samples you have
Flutterbis: Good for pearl collecting, which will boost other character's skill levels up to 30, resulting in better tools.
Purrmep: Recommended to be chosen on the 2nd ES's double link talent or Beast Master, good for advancing in sailing in gaming (ofc)
Omniphau: Gives you skill AFK time equal to the time your character has AFKed. Skill AFK time includes: Refinery, Breeding, Cooking, 3D printer, Sailing, and Gaming.
Badgur and Kattlekruk have no use as of now.
i cant even finish rift 3 on my best char, so not for me right now
Yep 
Divinity Gods set up really depends on how far you are and what your current goal is
Good gods to use are Omniphau, Harriep, Goharut if you still need to grind Lab/Gods
And then some situational ones. Like Nobisect for your main SB farming Gmush/Eclipses, Your BB on Nobi for Zow/Chow/Schow or Snake for Ladles
One person is usually also on Purrmep. ES through second link, Vman or BM - But I believe ES is the most common user of Purrmep
And very weird setups like 7 People on Bear can be run when you for example start pushing W5 with all chars
i will shit a bit harder in lab for a couple days (weeks?) and see what happens once i can finally play the whole fam again
๐คฃ It will be weeks โค๏ธ
jesus christ
i just experienced twitch chat text walls almost in a idleon discord
itโs a late game mechanic. so donโt worry about rushing it just yet
well it depends. right now i am only missing 2 notables at the end which would both be rather useless for me at the moment.
i COULD stop pushing lab and lose nothing right now, but it gives divinity which i deseperately need for getting more doot in my veins
wtf ๐คฌ
๐คฃ We like to be consise โค๏ธ
wish i had a upgrade too 
That's not a bad upgrade. Could be worse 
That's more than another snail level
its bittersweet, like its an upgrade, but i was at a 700m multi, was really hoping for like 300m+ or smth haha
just doot is alrdy
Getting good div levels is pretty useful
buffs minor bonuses
Etc.
Thought I would try my luck at W4 colo 
You got the rarest drop 
Thanks for the reminder that I can get some ladles from there and not just afk 100k ladles 300-500 at a time 
Yep
in 1 attempt?
100 runs
Rate the pain, one to ten
Seems like an awful amount of time to spend for couple hours afk progress haha
From slight carpal tunnel to complete seizure
๐ W4 colo is very profitable!
Was nice and quick
Whats your DR like?
So much clicking 
Also got this which is cool I guess
25.11x
This is 1240 hours of candy for around 80-100 minutes of semi active time. That's not "a couple hours of afk progress" 
As long as it isn't chem clicking
ive done 40k plants in 6hrs 
Thanks. Definitely not something I can do any time soon then
It was actually just over an hour. 4 per orb means each run was ~40 seconds. The candy efficiency might be trash but at least its really fast 
Oh I was thinking about 3 runs per orb. W4 is fast fast then
Less than 40 seconds actually. My orb last 158 seconds
forty seconds! ๐ฎ
That's some super-sonic speed
Sanic*
..gotta go fast?
30 second colo runs = light speed dopamine injections 
Best MS in the west 
Now time to try 100 W3 colos 
Don't spose you know what dr/orb is needed to guarantee 4hr candy?
Not exactly sure but I know we're very close if not there already
Grats! Gonna work for Superbit now, or is your snail not 23+
i dont think ima push for superbit yet, i think i'll wait for the w6 boosts to make it much nicer
Prolly the best move lol
still have 23 to go
not in a huge rush for it, cos i need all the superchows before touching ladles anyway
didnt even see the second 72hr dropping
Guaranteed 4 hour would be so good
I didnt see my 72 hr drop either 
it happens
W6 guaranteed ๐
I once ran 308 colo 2's and got only a single 72hr
im chem looping out of habit
I haven't gotten a 72 hour from any giants/colo/miniboss yet
gonna play dark and darker to distract me from the chem loop void
Ayyy got that MS up
will probably be finished by tommorrow 
so many capes and still no necklace 
Sorry, I need help for a moment
I have a bug or I have a problem..
I don't know if it's a coincidence but after I did a void run my death note lost a lot of multikill percentage points
is it normal ?
1.5mil W5 leaves left
its a feature
donโt use vman for deathnote
vman gets reset to ~1m 2m kills after a speedrun
to prevent from exploiting speedrun for deathnote
and also because vman shouldn't really be doing deathnote anyway
this was the second one i GS lul
i did quest items and others before,
i am almost done with leaves, then im going to do goldric portrait with candy/active ES
I do not understand ..
I had 160% in Blunder Hills, now I had 138% but the same goes in all worlds
any deathnote kills that your VMan had, for all mobs across all worlds, gets reset back to 2 million upon completion of a speedrun
ah ok D: I didn't know this... but is it written somewhere?
into our soul
I haven't done a void run in forever... okay, it's better this way, at least I understood the problem
thx guys
it makes progressing through w5 (and presumably w6) great, because as soon as any one of your other characters opens up a map, you can speedrun and your vman instantly gets 2m kills for any opened maps
but aside from that yeah it's mostly just to keep from farming deathnote in speedruns
mmm ok
The timing is kinda tricky but 3 runs per orb is looking fairly consistent in W3 
is there any way to toggle some "alchemy bubble reduction" upgrades? my carpenter is lv 190 and only costing me 26M (not on warrior) and it's PAINFUL using daily bubbles to get it up.
aside from using a different class, no
doesnt that take a lot of manual controlling the character?
If you want it to be consistent yeah. On auto I think it would be pretty rng
unlink vial doubler in lab
yeah the three platforms spawning mobs make it fucked up
your boomerang can leave a single guy alive there and that just makes it impossible to 3 run one orb
also I finished my colos
didnt get a single 24 or 72 after that 
Still some pretty nice rates overall
even number 
Sugar Tax has arrived, please siphon 3% of your earnings to the account, RedPandAAAAA
I mean, that's fair
I'd say going for 10k if you're gonna be gaming for a while is good
but there's not really a point on going over 10k for now
I am not ๐ซก My snail reset from 19 to 15, so fuck gaming until w6
Join me in the ignore gaming until w6 
If only I got chem again 
It's actually because Lava didn't make a separate portal type just for speedruns so speedrun shares normal portals, and when speedrun starts he resets al vman kills to 0 because that is what portas are tied to and doesn't remember which vman had, so re-unlocks portals based on the furthest another character has. Nothing to do with avoiding an exploit, just a classic case of lava being lazy(ier than he could be)
mine hit 20 the other day, almost failed too
deathnote is such a journey
Should I have full drop rate for Obols? any main stat sets?
Indeed ๐
after 200GS im going to start afk for nothing. xD
but why
there is a trophy
1:20000 yeah
At what point should I start grinding nothing island? Is it worth it for the shovel bonus? The artifact bonus?
1:100.000 even
1 or 2 pages of drop rate obols is fine to have, as well as family page. the others is usually best to have skilling obols. if you have space after taht maybe a main stat but its not usually what ppl go for (also can be farmed later)
almost reaching E41 
trying my best to hit 40 
I'd say you should only do that when you dont have anywhere else to spend your candies
the shovel bonus is good, but if you dont plan on grinding gaming really hard its whatever
idk about artifact because I've had all eldritches for a while now
i really dont want to spend 9250 more hours on that island for the bigger nugg
not bigger but getting one more often
Im at about 20 eldritch, 25 ancient, and 26 regular. My boats aren't fast enough for the last few islands
why do my boats sometimes do another trip when my loot pile is full but other times just wait at harbor with another chest?
10Million of an item!
!tipsandtricks this guide might help!
๐ซ AAAAAA, that command is disabled in this channel.
If you have the SB talent Unending lootpile, they will continue going out and having a chance of upgrading a chest in your lootpile (lootpile max size - 1). If you don't have it, each of your ships will stop at the dock with a box in their hold when your lootpile is full (lootpile max size + number of boats)
om my god im blind i specifically checked my sb skills before even asking thanks!
I sometimes come here to see what shit I have to deal with for "endgame"
Is it bad my ES has all wis obols? Make a big difference vs. skilling obols?
Not really, the only important obols for skilling are kruk and slush
Ok nice I have kruk
Donโt have slush I trashed em, can get more tho
Thanks Ney
no problem
can i kill collo baba yaga for the quest
I don't think so... don't remember if it's that part or just view baba there that doesn't work
Pretty sure the killing part can be done in Colo
I think it's only the view
But viewing has to be on the map
@cerulean hemlock that new Guild definitely got me to a point where I can get 250 Crystallin. Just need to wait 2 days for reductions
Also I got another 1.2% dr

Other than obols, what should I work on to get my DR up? Seems like a bunch of other things are capped, like lab chips
Cards and Card Set, Keychains, Plunderkills, Spending 20$ for the Island explorer pack, Equinox, W2 Weekly Boss Trophy Star Talent, Kruk Helm and Boots, Midas prayer
There is a lot of things for Dr. Just look at the link for all sources: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106
Much appreciated. I'll take a look to see what I have / am missing. Currently F2P, so the island explorer pack is out for me at least
Using guild carry cap bonus? I've been wondering if those changed immediately or had to wait
Did increase my Capacity immediately
I just white screened in colo 
Classic collo moment
getting close to unlocking em al
Got a lot of tier 2s to get
Thereโs useful ones there
wym
stamp cost reduction, drop rate, refinery and gold food bonus are really good
And afk gain
luck+10? base dmg +75? 3% movement speed if under 175% those are useless
yeah i agree those are useful
there are a lot of terrible ones tho
mana regene
Iโd lake the luck and base damage ez
I mean, 10 base luck is basically free
yeah I mean they're fast
so I'd get it either way
Mana regen and move speed is gross
He should just remove the under 175 stipulation
for 8% lab xp
It would make salt lick and sigil actually useful
I haven't looked at salt lick in so long
This is useless too, weapon power used to be at least somewhat good
yeah that's a real crappy one
Maybe w6+ will give sigil doublers or triplers 
refinery speed is decent, I guess
Drop rate is really good
Refiner speed always goes hard
For sigils it's really good
