#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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You are getting way too much damage anyways
my print lacking so i try to up them with upgrading the choping bubbles
Depends ... of w6
Good I won't argue the QS meme atomers 
Oh I am far from a meme.
Currently level 1000.
prints looking pretty
Would be nice if w6 was scaled a little harder but I highly doubt we'll need drastic amounts of damage to clear to last map in a day
i'd say you'd be more pressed to level fmj at this point then quick slap to push w6
Accuracy has not been a problem since w3 ...
fmj is defence...
fmj isnt accuracy

god damn. Recommending QS and not even knowing the basics
calm down xaya
Oh yes, shaqracy and fmj used to be adviced at the same time so I mixed them up
qs not good lategame?
everything will be fine
its good but you'll get enough damage that other things are more important
i see
Nope. They are recommending QS to someone that has 500 larry, 500 cooking roadkill, level 200 severapurple
It depends of your focus
imagine a world where CaMp and Gardevoir are the only ones able to push w6 because they've been atoming fmj 
They are not in a position to atom quickslap
so what should i really focus ..xd
skilling bubbles for more resources to level more bubbles
Big P is really good, especially if you have Doot.
Bubble 2 are nice too as they boost everything. Skilling bubbles are great oc.
which bubble levels are your CR and Larry?
1578 and 1186. Started to "hourly" click them some more now
by the way for cooking, lettuce says it increases cooking stuff every 10 levels, is it every 10 levels of the cabbage?
i might be able to do that aswell larry only at 1018 and cr at 800
10 level of cooking table upgrade
it's every 10 combined levels of upgrade levels on each kitchen iirc
ah i see
guys what the best build to farm 100000 statue for monolith quest? i know about dredlo mining but what to build?
In toolbox, you can see which meal is the most interesting for you speed increase.
drop rate/afk gains
DR, mining speed if not maxed, effi to reach 100%, afk rate.
im still need like 950hr to complete on one of my char, heh
other than the level 150 requirement what else is needed for a voidwalker?
12m gmush kills on your maestro and all w1-w3 death note enemies 1m kills
damn
the 1m deathnote kills can be done on anyone, it's not required to be done on maestro only
oh and also kill chaotic chizoar on maestro
'kay thanks
i want event with this reward
when i done rift quest i was lucky and get
who's else get this?
they're weighted to low roll so you average like 2-5 gems from them, there will be a time later on that you can farm colo 3 for world boss keys and farm gems or do w2 colo for candy/golden kebabs/gems
Does a character having, e.g. enemy spawn rate boost, work in killroy?
Like should I equip constellation chips and stuff for the character going to killroy?
Bubo can revive in killroy no clue about the other stuff
Oh no, disabling vials is too based.

what's atomic NBLB?
https://i.imgur.com/zFskUAi.png YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH................ I.... did not know that.... Well I got the 2k now, probably would've been able to get it 3 months ago but eeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Thanks 
No Problem I am at like 1.7k since I skip killroy a lot
this upgrade in the atom collider
thanks!
now I just need 69 and 420
How does the last Atom work? If I have a level 20 snail and the atom is at level 4 will I be reseted too level 15?
If the last atom is leveled to level 1, it will reset back to 5, at level 2 it will reset to 10, level 3 15, etc
U can read that from the atom description
Yes but if snail is level 5 its not possible to reset below 5?
If you reach 5 and have the atom you can't go below 5
Ok ty
Dam, why most atom upgrades suck so much 
Its more valuable to spend atoms directly on divinity than on actual collider.
what?
Only 2 of them are 'bad' and the last one is good until level 4 then becomes useless
just passed the 400 mark 
how much are you creating every hour?
Can somebody give me some non doot hypermax tips? If I'm trying to resample my mages on logs it should be sheb on all of them and Arctis on the two es right? Or would goat be better for the extra afk gains. All my other chars would be on goat already ofc
If you want QoL do all mages together and have 7 on goat. mages on snake/arctis
if you want to fully min/max and it take forever you can do 9 on goat but ofc that's going to take forever to do a full resample for all characters
Yeah I was doing qol version
Hmmm ok so the increase in talent levels is more important than the goat ty
the problem with 9 on goat 1 on snake/bear is that you have to resample basically every week for a few weeks
which kills your relic printing boost and destroys the point of the extra gains in the first place 😦
I guess there could be a case to be made for a one time use of mega min max for the 1b sample but yeah it's pretty rippy for overall progress
I'm actually not sure whether or not snake or arctis would be better for bubo's link. I'm going to make the safe assumption that 30% afk gains beats 15 skill levels but i've been wrong about a lot of things before so if i'm wrong now it wouldn't be new 
That's also making the assumption that your bigP/div levels are high enough for +15 from arctis
131 an hour
When calculating if Maestro's skill level is higher than others, is it based on their actual exp (does level 29.5 win over 29.2?) or does Maestro have to be a FULL level above the others?
A lot of luck to very little dr lol. Let me see if I have a doc for it
The madman is actually adding more cooking plates
Full lvl higher
Just wondering how worth is it to spend points in this luk per quests talents
Can somebody explain how the family guy bonuses work. I have heard conflicting information on it
Alright but 30.00 wins over 29.99, right?
Im still doing quests for the eff per quest one but unsure about luck
right? that does mean a new spice battle, though 😦
I'm still sad kattlekruks unique drop wasn't a splicer, that would have been a cool unlock
Only rly on vman or if you have a lot of extra star talent point, but with all the star talents we have now meh
We’re still missing a spice to upgrade fire chance on the last table
Gotcha, was thinking if people actually put points in that talent to minmax dr
Yup, one spice, 3 plates
assuming lava doesn't extend it at all
that map will eventually need extending for the lab tubes so we might even get more
Assuming that’s 3 plates 1 for each skill and we know there are at least 15 world mobs, that’s a lot of cooking speed coming
assuming that lava builds on old stuff is bold^^
He teased a new meal already
i know^^
Though who the fuck eats steak with a spoon
idleon players

Given that he’s looking at cooking, I hope he changes the table thing in the world so that it shows the right plate tier on each
Ok nah eating a steak with a spoon is a crime
Can't wait
to do more food lusting wowee
He did it for artifacts, in theory no reason he can’t do it on plates
Why can't I sell keychains? Is there some sort of trade-in mechanism or do I have to drop the trash chains on the ground?
drop em
it was part of an update lava put in cause people kept accidentally quick selling important stuff
drop and reset map
Eating a steak with a spoon is like putting the milk before the cereal
Keychain and trophies were made unsellable to prevent accidental quick sell
It's easier if you eat the cereal in a cup
More annoying a feature than useful in my experience
Cereal in a cup?
Way less messy than pouring the milk right into the box
True
table first
Almost got the bot to say I'm mid w5
Only cool people are forever stuck mid world 3 😎
I was but scolis bot auto upgraded me
Apparently smithing doesn’t hold you back anymore 
I refuse to level royal sampler 🤣
Although. I haven't looked in over a week so if there's been some update then that's changed haha
im just completing all easy quest on all my characters and wow its so many gems
and time candy
and i got +30 slab in a day
Don't forget to leave some for the gstacks
where is scolis thing actually?
my 10th character does no quests for greenstacking potential in the future
Does a partial hour of gains for the 3D Printer by Doot/Omniphau forward the internal timer for the next cycle, or is it "wasted" if no upcoming cycle breakpoint is being reached?
My smithing tier is 0/7 because I haven’t even done the w1 mats 
Lets see how it looks for a player that reached atom printing just now.
Atoms.
- Stamp max lvl cost reduction - useless, because i upgrade stamps much more ofthen than once in half a month.
- Extra power of 10. Really good actually, but it costs skyrockets fast.
- Bubbles upgrade. Literally completely useless because levels of high end bubbles worth even less than lower bubbles for now, so it actually can be even harmfull.
- Post box. Completely useless just straight up.
- Atom bubble upgrade. Completely useless, i'm not nearly close to lvl I will need to use it.
- Wizard towers buff. lvl 50 viable towers is far far away, so i literally gain basicly nothing at all.
- Trimmed slots. Great, amazing. Too expensive as of yet.
- Minor increase in checkout speed not even comparable to some of the others. +10 lvls to skills. I mean its nice but its expensive.
- Still useless as i'm not even close to any lvl 30 meals.
- Damage + lower costs. I mean. No.
- I'm not even close to snail.
Right now i can print like a few hundreds of atoms. What i can reaslisticly even buy? A few levels of perk 2 and maaaybe i can somehow try to reach 7 (not really). The rest is useless for me.
half a month to upgrade stamps
You mean 4-5 days?
those do sound pretty annoying to do tho
3 is wrong
Getting the higher bubbles pushes things like diamond chef
Which you physically cannot click normally
Guess this guy just never wants anything past the first 15 to be atom'able 
I do agree atom collider is limited when you first start using it
But the atomic nblb is good for sure
I mean it can. But it wont until i catch up everything else.

That’s the game 
Better eventually than never. You realize it's meant to hit bubbles that are legit impossible to level right? Like spices?
There are 241 possible greenstacks ?!
It'll also be a headstart on w6 bubbles when they launch
how the hell are you supposed to get the last mutation in gaming? just pure luck with 1% chance or?
Roll every chance you get
Yes, but thats also endgame thing that i dont need to be bothered with right now, and i can still level even diamond chief daily basicly and 15% daily for that is miniscule.
spamming .1% is the best way, yes. And just lots of clicks
And get lucky
15% is a lot and adds up
Yes but some of them quest items, so be carefull with what quests you hand in
This is a long term game
I'm relying on the 15% daily rn
I'll give you 2 weeks of daily upgrades if that before you can't level diamond chef anymore.
I just don't do quests on my 10th character
Reducing the 1k glass shards needed (after the 95% reduction) to something I can get quickly
Yes, but i have atoms and i need to spend them right now. And i'm forced to go spend them in divinity, because divinity gives better buffs.
you mean 1% right?
no
what lvl divinity should you aim for on the es?
Roll for chem every chance you get
claim all
roll for chem
Repeat until you win the lotto
kitsune activated or ?
Once you can press the button, press it. Don't save up mutation chance because there's extremely bad diminishing returns.
yeah thats what i was thinking
wait is this for unlocking new mutations?
yes
first ones go up pretty fast but the last ones dont seem to go past 1% 😛
does it actualy have to say 0.1% or is it enought to be able to click it?
alright guys what map am i on
No clue
I would assume yes
You can just click it
I just randomly had this idea yesterday that it would be cool if idleon had some kind of "community oriented" feature
I specifically mean like some sort of weekly thing which gives "stretch goal" type of rewards based on how much we contributed to the thing together. It could be something as simple as donating thousands of billions of some item throughout a week for example. What do you think?
I wouldn't mind something like that as long as it was farm 10 billion beans every week
Tyson
Craft 1B golden peanuts 
can you zow/chow equinox valley?
I hopped back on the alter and unlocked Purrmep. I need seven people in the lab. So I'm thinking first five on bear. Eight and nine on the bear. Both ES also linked to bunny. Vman linked to Purrmep. Pipe wrench and Misrun linked to elephant. Before I pull the trigger, do I have that right?
why do you need 7 in the lab?
Because I can't light everything up yet with six.
Why do you want to light everything up?
Yea
I didn't see any mobs there?
Afk 2 minute claims
A single ram
Equinox lets you do 1 minute claims
On Bb
not bad actually
The mods made it seem like that may be a no no
so you had to... do 3000 claims?
huh?
how could claiming under 2 minutes be a 'nono'?
I seen one of the mods talking about the 1 minute claims being unintentional
And dropped a ban emote on neyney but it may have been a joke
@tall horizon would you count 1 min equi claims as an exploit?
Wait, i think we need to discuss this- are we supposed to be getting any claims from equinox?
Ask for forgiveness, not permission
Rash will answer that for me 
If Rash says it's an exploit I won't spread it anymore
Bc if 1 min claims is unintentional it isn’t an exploit if 2 minute claims are allowed
I guess I could get by without this one? What's more valuble, double prints on one person, or elephant on one person?
ah
Just let doot work on afk fighting 😂
I think you should put as few people in the lab as possible -- I use 5
getting 1.15x damage is super mediocre even times 2
It's with bear, nobody is actually in there. But do you have four linked to elephant then?
Which map is the best for this guy ?
my ES
I hvae 5 chars inside the lab
and they are connected to harriep
printers>not connected IMO
generally
What's the way to beat the weekly boss this week? The skull thread tips and tricks is a mess and I can't find anything
you could get away with your archers outside
Use the pins in the post
it's in the pin
Never knew you could do that in there, thank you
That's on your BB?
I can only pull out:
Not sure how yours is so much better
I know you have doot's bonus on afk gain
but it doesn't make up the 4x difference
Are you linked to Nobi?
That is already a 2x difference if so. And then another nearly 2x for afk gain
ahh that's double isn't it
ok fair shout
I'll link to nobi before I bother
I'll get the 100k real quick
maybe 1 mill
Missing the scarf?
anyone with a money making guide?
killing green mushrooms>profit
there you go
there isnt much more to it
except for high dr
that and general account progression for damage + multikill
no, I've got the scarf and I've got eclipse on everything but w5 (5 to go)
Are magma or Kruk armor better?
depends
there are some clear 'better' bits from both for certain things
the % stat is really big for a lot of things
So would you upgrade to kruk or just stall at magma, I just finished outfitting all my characters in troll armor
And have all the teeth and cavities to upgrade all armor to kruk as long as they get to magma
i was suggested to do helm+boots on active farmers (dk/es/bubo) and chest+pants for afk (sb/bb)
this is the way to go for easy optimization, but honestly after awhile just get 2 sets. you'll want it for sampling as well.
there's also the possibility that w6 armor is going to be an extension of magma too
Kruk better. Maybe worthwhile to keep one magma set for each class for sampling, but you're only sampling once every 3 months anyways. So who really cares
also this, soon w6 will make this choice moot
I hope it extends from kruk armor so that it doesn't screw with people who did upgrade to kruk
i prefer my bubo in full magma for that %stat for money farming bubbles amongst other things
w6 boss armor might be like troll though and have no prereq - but obvs none of these things can be answered just yet 😄
Yeah but money is pointless🤷♂️
I'm thinking mainly just the fact that the armor will replace both magma or kruk. requirements to craft are up in air atm
Boss armor is also 6 months out at least
unless there's no astat% that might still make magma useful
actually, i think it's only chiz and kruk boss armor that needs base armor pieces, right?
depends where you are in game, it's still useful for upgrading some stamps for me
amarok/efaunt/troll are all start from scratch
Just farm more gmush
Strange guess here -- he'll not do that
I hope he stops the chain armor upgrade at some point
it's such a nuisance to make a new set
i agree with that, but still %stat gear is more useful then damage for my bubo.
you have to interact with your bank each upgrade
troll is such a pain too because of nullo ><
(although i appreciate there's fairly finite uses for nullo)
Is it really 100 Billion Green Mushroom kills?
Yea, I still need nullo for all the equipment (pick, ax, fishing pole, etc.), but that's most of the remainder
guys a small question, so if i click on the left offering in divinity the right offer also updates?
yup
used to be accidently set to 1b, so if you cant click it at that point now then yeah its fixed to 100B
thanks
Dayum. Never getting that one then
Getting pearler shells for equipment and hampters for weapons is going to take a while also
SB afk is the way
I've been farming statues on DK for about 3-4 days now and wondering why my DR was lower than I expected... turns out I had chopping obols on his ass 
100 billion what?
FINALLY sheesh 😄
time to delete it...gz
Green Mushroom Kills
But what is it 'set' to?
fixed to 100b?
If atoms aren't useful to you right now (mostly a resource generation issue) I'd instead look at printing for anything that fuels a bubble, especially logs/ore but fish/bugs are good too.
at this stage I'd in particular look at working your way up to making the bubble cost 100m of a resource.
Once you're done resampling should give you more atom generation, and put you in a better place
the number requirement on the equinox challenge is 100B gmush kills, but you used to be able to click it with just 1B kills so the backend numbers were messed up. lava must have gone through and corrected it to be the actual 100B he intended
ah ok
you never know it might be 10b now instead 😄
100b Aint happening
i dont think so, i remember a few ppl being past 10B and trying recently
well i just did resampling and my prints are at 1.5m logs. Soon maybe more. its too low. But yeah i dont print atoms right now, but its weird that i have access to mechanic and can meaningfully invest in it, but basicly cant really get anything usefull out of it.
funnily enough atomic collider is too easy to build. Or maybe i just pushed construction too well to get it a bit early.
Does quick slap scale better than meaty claws and name I guess?
Technically speaking, 1 minute claims giving 2 minutes of reward is a bug. This one is above me to make a decision on though, so you'll have to wait for a proper answer until I get one 🤷
Any reason to level this one any further? it's already got 100% uptime
I believe hotair made a report to lava about the 1 minute claims at equinox but i don't think there has been a decision on it yet
Anybody else getting much much less construction build rate on iOS recently? My DK is getting a fraction of what I get on PC
My BB is getting much more speed than my full obol’d DK
Alright thanks. I will stop spreading more words about it then 
hi xaya 👋
Hey Rac 👋
When you hit the overflow 
Is there a setup for w5 worship using boulders
If you just passed 2B build rate on DK you hit mobile overflow
Mobile doesn’t like numbers past 2B
Yeah once you reach later game mobile is basically dead
Nice for PO and some stuff tho
At least I’m not going crazy. Was trying to change all sorts of things to fix it.
Thank you
Is it just a visual thing? Or affects progress
actually affects progress
Wish it would just cap at the overflow then, I drop down to like 400k build rate, sucks.
mining, food, drop, construction, gaming, and so on
Does this mean I can only use the three towers?
Does anyone have any guesses about will divine pearls be usefull in world 6? 
Yes, I believe they will be.
3 poisonics max, you can use others too
I probably need to do all the tower achieves too. I'm stronk now. 
cant use pearls/candies and so on in new worlds. we'll have to see if you can use them on the skills in w5 once w6 is released but i would doubt it. candies will be able to be used in w5 at that point tho
Well if you got pearls at all 90% that you have all w5 skills at 50%. Except maybe dininity that i'm quite condifend cant be.
Be careful. One of them rewards purple Dungeon RNG item
Huh interesting.
Having all 5 purples hurts the Coin Flip strategy
How high you need poisonic before swapping to it from bulders?
I have no strategy. 
20 somethin maybe
I just swapped, I think you need around lvl 10-12+
Supposedly 30, but I swapped at like 8. By the time I read 30, they were already passed that.
Here you go:
im not sure it's really a big deal anymore given equinox
You will swap to poisonic much earlier than you get equinox buff
you're right, for some reason i thought it was the third buff lol
Basicly as soon as you setup decent building speed you can just push poisonic preferably in golden slot and you are done.
Lvl 10 is not that hard to reach on poisonic and then theres no real use to push boulder higher than level 30
Tower levels beyound first 20 dont give too much, its diminishing returns more or less.
What this list doesn't tell you is that you should be putting levels into all buildings for faster building speed
if something takes a small amount of time -- get it
Do you mean construction mastery from rift?
yep
anyone know why sparkle trapping is lower than <skilling obols>?
parkle obol list is certainly different now
I mean i still have ages before i unlock construction mastery. And im doing really well in construction.
yeh, i realise there's also kruk now which isn't covered
This really changes it
Kruk is like SSS tier
You'll almost never get a bigger buff than 6% afk gain
I feel pain honestly thinking about farming and keeping and swapping skilling obols.
How it even supposed to work. Its quite sad.
I think Obols should be reworked
what is the optimal order for upgrading world five merits?
Not really reworked, obols are quite decent system. Its just that skilling obols should become passive, like skilling cards.
obols are not a decent system
swapping them is terrible
it's seriously one of the worst systems in the game right now, it feels incredibly dated and overlooked
For whatever reason, Trapping and Worship obols do NOT get %skill eff at the Hex shape. The others do. That's why Trapping and Worship are lower priority / value
ahhhh
I mean its basicly the same exact system as cards.
Only theres a lot of them. They dont have sets, and for some reason they have limited space.
The rest is fine.
swapping obols from chars 1-6 to chars 7-10 is SUPER painful
The 'rest'?
There isn't much else
they are painful in every way
I'd completely do away with 'personal' obols
I mean the baseline of the system are stat values, rarity of aquisition, slot unlocks and overall progression.
and just put them per profession
Obols fit nicely. And they would even fit decently if not for skilling obols. Skilling obols are ridiculous.
they are clunky
I haven't tested Troll %stat obol vs Trap/Worship sparkle lately 🤔 At some point, I expect Troll will be better.
likely
trapping power is additive and % is multiplicative
there isn't that many trapping power boosts though, right?
I finally made it into the waiting room, thanks Scoli 
This setup did not proc the achievement for soda poisoning.
did you sell towers?
Oh stab me in the F'n eye already. Yeah, I sold one I misplaced right off the bat. Thx. One of these days I'll add some comprehension with the reading part.

This is currently 'max'?
Will I get credit for the equinox thing if I let this grow?
Nah, you need 1b sample
It will be over 1 billion

It doesn't "grow" per say. You just get more out of it but the displayed value remain the same
I see
well dang 20% short
But I guess it's worth it anyway
is there a recommended set of logs to sample?
Good morning everyone!
so W6 will at least have more than 13 GS
just in monster mats
which upgrade stone is recommended to use her?
gamba boss stones and then recraft when they brick the gear? 😄
i wouldn't touch boss stones personally
This is the way
ok ty! havent played in a while and couldnt remember what i used before haha
If you are super end game en it take you an hour to farm mâts for one pièce, it May be à good challenge/optimisation. But m'en that feels tedious as hell
helm ones are like a double gamble too, because its random stat not mainstat ><
is this gear still up to date? or do i want other rings? havent unlocked the boss scarf yet
opal rings
which ones are those?
ah yes. silly me
Sadness
lol only had 19.8k 😦 couldnt buy 2 rings lol
Anyone else not able to connect to the servers when they log in?
Never mind, just randomly worked after like 15 seconds, never had this before. strange
It's usually just server lag I suppose
Should we craft the w5 boss gear at this point or stick with magma until w6? Because sometimes lava skips over gear
I'm not creative with names 😂
Since pet comp forces a server save, if multiple people did it, servers might stutter
😉 The mental hospital (Asylum)
I killed chat again, didn't I?
I'd say W5 boss gear
(If you're going to do some skilling, magma ofc)
W4 leaves. clammy right?
Goodah, also first stream yesterday night, was fun 2hr 😛
+1 slab ;3
You stream? 

Another one lost to gaming 
this is gonna kill me when i get a 10% upgrade
Where did you get that info from?
o7 Has Contract been taken into the depths yet?
toolbox
ah thx
There isn't anything specific to getting nuggs going right?
just click gaming stuff?
i like to get like 10 chems or so before i start
hourly clicks are superior
yeah of course
use water, use log, click a t5 chem, use water, use log, repeat forever
always click the shovel
My snail reset yesterday. I am free of gaming 
oof, I might not be able to unlock it!
still waiting for my snail to set me back 5 months so I can stop bothering
@rustic garnet I was kidding 😛
hello AAAAAA
i m still confused about rift with skulls, What do I need to do?
mindlessly kill but make sure you dont clear the rift fully
at least, that seemed to work for me
i m clearing only the low row, because of mob spawning. after hour still nothing....\
which rift are you on
42
Join me in ignoring gaming until w6 bonuses 
I can get on that bandwagon
i m ignoring it till all 6 evolves. does that count?
thats my plan as soon as my nugget pops
Hello!!
I can't join
time to ruin the meal >:)
Trickz! I got to W5 btw ❤️
Gz!
What meal? 😄
F2P Alt account so close to w4, so slow tho
any pointers for nightmare kruk on vman? It feels like damage isn't an issue I just literally can't kill the adds fast enough to keep them from healing. Even with skull gauntlets, whip, and void radius
What day are you on?
Day?
check pins
and if it's too hard -- wait
Yep
Tuesday
honestly, the scarf is for level 425
I meant how long has the account been running 🤣
Mine got to W5 in 41 days
iirc
SO... I've been gone from the game for about a year (W5 did not exists). Now, where are the best resources to figured out what build are the best?
Oooo I was so confused, it's been months as didn't play it for ages then landed doot on it
Also what damage are you actually at?
Hit w2 like 20 days ago
Ooooof.
oh thats not great, 7-12b would mean an easily like 45min fight?
you got doot within your first 4 drops?
now mr. speedrun where do i farm small health potions 
Though no ram yet, that's the only one missing
did you buy green coins?
Sticks if you want! Rats for gstack quest item
About how much of a difference would I get in sampling if I had the skill related obols vs none?
Nooe F2P account only
makes sense I guess just focus more on adds and get fewer hits on him
which class works best? if i also want to get some statues
you have all of the pets on a 41 day account?
inlcuding effy and stuff can easily be a few %
minus ram?
called gambling..
DK, since crystal drop I suppose
If crystals don't drop, it's ES
nothing else possible, since thats only like 6x attempts for more than 6 pets
pins has the full list, also depends if candy or active etc.
i know i just want to annoy him
I don't know if you can 'get' all the pets in 41 days?
a few % diff, so like 10m vs 10.5m? Doesn't seem like that big of a deal
Yeah, that's what I thought
does add up, everything is a few % here and there.
Plus when you let your relic stack that'll all add up to it too
Lets say it's 5%, and you get your relic to 2.5x that's already 12.5% difference now. 🤷
2.5 relic takes...60 days to max?
Also how much better is a bit situational based on all your other stats
Last time I checked, it was up to 10-15% difference in the base sample. It depends on if the Efficiency pushes you up an Efficiency tier, and if so how many.
really getting bored of the dootless game
over double all of the stuff is far too strong
I'm researching how to get the skilling obols, only from alch shop 😢
😛 I'm not annoyed
should really j ust toss the game into the bin at this point, was waiting for a change / adjustment, but the gap is just widening
ayy, just some afk grind now till construction mastery
Reminder to buy your Bobjoepickle. Especially those that don't have the Vial level 2 yet 
Reminder to claim spices 100x before reset!
Speaking of, what's the highest vial for the pearls?
Reminder to check your equinox!
I believe 7 rn
reminder to git gud
Vial* most stop around lvl 4 maybe 5?
just curious how crazy some ppl are
when will we ever get an autobuy feature 
One day I will finish my lvl 6 pearler vial 
Also shiny frog stops at around 8, which is already rough, 9 is crazyyyy
+1 slab
Oof, that's gonna hurt
Also should I invest in that?
I feel like there is not many increases to Giant spawn rate, but at the end of the day it will maybe give me one more 
i like it if i have the excess but i also have doot
Trickz said 6. I click 
im at 7 click again
6 is a nice 25% for me
Fuck it. We go to 7 
Can't wait for my Nullo to run out of Pink Salt 

Just turn off Nullo 
cant wait for this to be added in 2 years
i have 33 pink, and 1.5mil nullo 
indubitably
lol yeah there's some wasted hours in there
wdym 12% class exp are worth the wait 
I'd say rank 7 is good, since i think it'll probably give you around... ~10 more giants?
Really that good 
I should have invested earlier 
Ayyy! 😄
lezgoooo
A week, yeah, around 10
D-d-d-do I buy it?
Maybe you saw it. I really thought it's like 1-2 giants 
I thought it would just scale exponentially quick and therefore not give much giants
The more you know 
look at this slacker, been playing the game years and has barely any GP
Indeed, such a noob
I really should just start ladling some meals again but I really can't be bothered 
What's the most amount of meals someone has maxed?
I'm still working towards 100k for equinox 
should I go for gilded tubes..?
All of them I think
yeah with vman I gotta think some people have them all at cap
contract has like, 28 maxed
not even close to all of them
Ahh. three pages then?

W-w-wwait, Alvin doesn't count?
Alvin and his 100% crystal spawn chance 
alvin increased the cap to 100 so isn't done yet, he's on 80+ for everything tho 

Suggma recipe doesnt exist, Day 8
@cerulean hemlock will you hold my hand while i slaughter poops?
Hmm... only if you say please >;3
pwease? 
Fine 😛 which server
demon 2
If i got maxed trapping lootbox in the post office on all characters, does the %critters trapped stack?
Got it
nah, it's based on the character placing the trap
@cerulean hemlock also i found that poops are the "best" of both worlds farming red pots statues and alch time for the exp bubble
i dont see you 
Hmmpf. Peculiar!
😛 I'm polishing up my mman, one moment
which class is best to farm this cursed recipe?
now i'm just 2 sets of afks away from construct mastery, should i start pushing low building levels to improve this?
es active
Or just afk for eternity on all chars
Selfie 📷
ES active
does divinity pearl work on the breeding skill?
Oh wait, circ already answered 😛
ty
Awww
the numbers are haunting me
I cant seem to get it to work. I stand in the breeding area and click and hold on the pearl but nothing happens
cause it doesnt work
typically generic enhancers don't work on current world stuff
shame, i thought i found the easy way out
it might( work on divinity when w6 comes out tho
additionally you can't enhance skills that are account-wide level: Breeding, sailing, gaming
hmmm okay that will be something i'll look for when it comes
so I wouldn't expect it to work on those soon either
yeah makes sense
You should also be able to candy w5 once w6 is out, assuming lava follows the normal trend
92% Noob 
how does no bubble left behind work?
I'm curious what the text used to say when someone tried to candy w4 before w5 came out :3
@sick sentinel are you my dad? aaaaaa just told me that you are
it said nuh uh(real)
it was like candy doesnt work in space or something like that
Hey, I wonder who you are! 😉
i'm doot enjoyer 54 (real) i might know you!
Every daily reset boosts a few of your weakest bubbles by one level
"no candy in space"
do i need to conect any of my tubed character?
nblb goes off at your daily reset so yeah it at least needs to be connected at taht point
so conect 1 character after daily reset noted
DR looks a bit better
I remember tht text
before your reset happens but yeah
he need to be conected on reset?
yes. it happens the instant your shops reset
the dr is hurting me
well that a bit harder since my reset keep be pushed later and later
🤣
if it happens while you're asleep just connect it before you go to bed
😛 It's good enough
you are good enough buddy
eventually you'll be in a position where you don't need to connect it manually
i have question about alchemy bubbles and atoms. 100m ore cost = 156 atom, my question after upgrade both this costs up, but what after 1050m? from what i know bubble cant have higher cost, when it rich max cost atom cost also dont up higher?
these are all the max costs the bubbles get to at 1b
Quick question: this isn't too bad, correct?
Does cranium cooking effect sigils?
No
We wish 
Sad
would completely trivialize sigils if it did 😄
sigils already trivial
We'd max it out within a day ;P
I finally made it 
Terraria Reference?
To worms at lvl 415? Or
First character at worms on the account haha
👀 First?
At level 415? 😮
I was busy.
bm as pusher? 🤢
My man you are insane beyond comprehension
Only if you count moles to worms as a "pusher" lol
not long now and I'll have the last sigil upgraded 
is the rift challenge with the lava skulls bugged? I already killed two of those and it didn't count
No.
2 chars for that one
Mine? It's 
ohhhhh right, thank you! apparently I am dumb :D
Is big P important if I have doot? Why is it important?
happened to me too
Could be an issue for kph if its tooooo low i think
Yes it increases the effect of the divinity bonuses
Or am I getting that confused w another one. I think it’s big P tho
I mean, I'm pretty early game, not too sure
Is there a guide for suggested divinity link?
hugely important, the minor links of each god are really strong, and big P increasing that by like 1.48x allows you to get above the "max"
You need one lava skull for one char, sso 2 chars= 2 lava skulls
1 char =/= 2 lava skulls
What is the preffered method for post office?
just want to be sure when you connect to harriep printer number a gold with gold star?
Makes sense. What do you have linked?
to get boxes? spam pens on order 1
@tacit tulip no sorry to allocate boxes
blue is lab 2x
gold is harriep god 3x
purple is both 6x
the only thing you need to link to is purrmep if you have doot. Link to it with your highest div lvl char
spam so many pens you can get all the boxes
hm i have two connects to harriep but non of them a gold
Well say I don't want to do that yet. where should I be placing my boxes
Depends on the char
Assuming you don’t have enough boxes to max everything
typically the main skilling box for that class (so mage: Logs) then things that complement that char. Mana is always good, drop rate is always good etc
at first you focus on damage and drop rate
I lvled construction box on my DK’s, etc.
for construction characters, focus on construction
Ok cool I’m doing that already. Thanks.
for skilling characters, focus on skilling but your maestro should be doing your skilling for now
Yeah it’s really to bump efficiency/gain rate for samples
then why my harriep connect doesnt work? it some bug?
there's a bug but it's only visual
there's some weird rounding going on with DK orb, and if it's on a certain value, it shows the wrong one
If you watch the printer while active playing DK you'll see it swap between the two
yeah its a common issue, can check IE or IT to see if you values are right
oh check it thx
Blobfish unlock soon 
should i raise sigil and switch back to no bubble left behind just before the daily reset?
if you need sigil desperately, sure
sigils aren't so important where you should have to pick between them
I'd rather just leave it on nblb so I don't risk forgetting
do i need sigil ? im just unlocking evrything i can
aim for sigils once you have all alchemy bubbles unlocked
you wanna be in the 4 cauldrons for now
It's a very small bonus, but still helpful.
Unlock all alchemy bubbles first, though!
your lab should be in a healthier position by the time you've unlocked everything, you can do sigils then
ok still so many alchymy bubble to unlock anyway
arguably you can do the first 3 because they're quick and have some decent bonuses, but after that it becomes a trap because it takes too long
Finally got my first 1m+ nugget
well seem like im in for a day of total idling whit 7 character grinding lab one working on fishing 40k sark for omar and 1 cuthing veiny tree for the achivement
down to last 2 characters to level. beastmaster then blood berserker. 18 levels to go on either before level 500
Ist it normal to get 1 Power Statue from Crystal Mobs with 10x DR?
Happy life
I think not?
I could be wrong
relatively.
Yeah, but DK will multiply that number with his Orb. So a 100 Orb score would give you 2 Power Statues, 200 Orb = 3 Power Statues, and so on. And with more Dr you will increase the base amount of Statues you will get
So it's not too bad when using DK
But in my opinion 10x dr is still too low if you wanna go for Onyx
Yeah I kinda dunno how to get more
What's the highest Orb# someone's got?
I guess it's someone using all his Event Items that spawn enemies in one go. Someone probably got past 2k with that
Mine were around 800-850 on Beans and something like 1100 (?) on Wurms?
A long time that I actually used DK on Wurms so I'm not sure
wtf I get little above 200 kills
sounds about right with max book
level 208 orb
max book can be 245, then also the other levels you can get on top of that from like bear, slug, symbols
movespeed to 350% for visual cap will help
Yeah got doot but missing slugboy
Ooh
Btw hello! 😛
After a quick look at your account I'm getting crystals 4x faster than you and I got choco chip so that is another ~4x more crystals resulting in way more Enemies on my screen than on yours = Higher Orb Count
The 850 is a pretty good run and sometimes I only go to 700. It all depends on crystal luck
And for your Dr Question: King Doot Card is still base rarity. Try to get that to 2 Stars. You have no chip on your DK (Card doublers, Keychain doubler being the two most important for you rn). Try to get Dr Keychains from dungeon (Tier 2 Keychains so they are pretty cheap)
And you can equip another Sparkle Dr Obol in your family tree (and you should be close to 2500 Family level, which will give you another obol slot)
I know you don't have the Lab Chips rn. But they will help immensly with DR. This was just for future reference
alrighty yeah I got choco but missin the other lab chips
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Going into Party Dungeon just feels sooo bad without 20x
Oh definitely. I usually only do 1 per week with this Prayer equipped and get a lot of Keychains that way
350 is max speed?
This is one of the best things in the game ❤️
That's Acorn Assault Wave 41 right?
for on screen visual movespeed yes. you still get other benefits above that tho
Currently working on getting 5 Max Flurbos for equinox
Honestly I feel like that Equinox cloud is incredibly easy
Especially since I do it every week or two
Who's not going to spend 10 minutes of Idleon boosting pretty good stats?
Does it give me 40x even though I only have 20 passes?
No
...+20k again...thats 3 times
we don't aim for trap, just do as best as we can
and if you can, use 10h trap
I am not logging on every 10 hours so no that's not going to work well for me.
I'm currently doing the vial, i'd like to know what everyone is getting per there trap when they did it o_o
just do as best as you can, this take time
anyone have a daily checklist ?

Yeah thanks but i'd still like to see what others went for when they did it.
Wait let me make an account first 🤣
no worry haha 🙂
anyone have sample check list? for chopping and mining?
i want to re-sample but affraid to forget something
If i move my shrines to a place with somebody with highlevel talent, does it get snapshotted or do people with no/low level in shrine summoning not get benefit of that?
just saw lava in pizza 1 w4 town, I thought if he was in game, he'd be streaming, is that not always the case?
if u dont have 40 dungeon passes or more, do not use that prayer
@fallen torrent Ayyy followed ❤️
😄 thx
i might stream a bit later on tonight, depend on what my gf does since shes home today
Oh nice, on my 2nd try ever (first try lvl4 -.-) I rolled lvl 100 ticktock star talent! Is that rare? :D
😄 Very rare
Seems like a decent talent to me, but I still miss a ton of star talents
I always hesitate to go all in on my star talent points because it seems the reset potions are rather hard to come by and I dont know what else I might get .. like this one
But this seems pretty safe to max, right? Its always good.
you can get this recipe on w2 tab page, pretty free
100 is all you need o7
can get it from biggie hours or efaunt
It drops in value by alot if it's level 200
I have this recipe, but 25 talent potions are ... alot for me
🙏 Believe me, you get a bunch from treat piles and quests
No need to worry about it
Hi @glad cedar!
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Okay thanks. But reset potions aside, maxing tick tock is fine, right?
yep
Lategame it's still pretty viable, just sucks a bunch of points when it's around level 200 😛
You see me at frogs or something
Potentially dumb question, is anvil speed affected by agility? Like should I atom both agi bubble and hammer hammer?
Nah, just typin' here
Yea getting a bunch of points would be nice anyway, I just omegarushed W5 after getting dooted THE DAY I omegarushed W4. I am fucking lowleveled, undergeared, underdeveloped and just pushed my 2nd char in the triple digit lvl range.
Anvil EXP gain is affected by AGI for archers
But not anvil speed?
#1183482341474172938 This will help you 
If I recall, yes
It does not give anvil speed
380% 
Desperately need more anvil speed for nails, bricks and thread
Haha I already read like all of that (and re-read it) as it is a lot to digest when inhaling this game's content in the matter of weeks rather than years
but thank you very much, appreciated
jesus...so hard to get 1000M
😮 Really???
So someone who knows more about ios overflow. If I continue to raise my build rate past overflow, will it eventually get higher again as I approach “double overflow” is that a thing
Did you like it? 😄
I usually try, wince, to update it weekly
But I'm too caught up in my new account 🤣
Yeah, you can overflow it back
Once W6 drops it'll get another 5 pages
Like, when you go over 2.147B it goes to -2.147B
So you just need 2.147B to go back to 0
i wish i could print million but im so far of that point
Gotcha, very nice. Thank you
im not event printhing more than 800/h
Why did you start a new account? And yes I like it, but I started in W1 (adminttedly with a headstart as I already had a bunch of chars idling there for ~2 years? :D) like 2 weeks ago and it was a bit much to read about all the content which wasnt yet relevant for me, so I did not really read it at once and rather cherry-picked specific chapters. Therefore it has been good.
For skilling mats?
i mostly printhing rafinery material presently and some stuff to finish ez aces achivement
cap at 700M now :<
🤣 I did not want to start a new account.
I've played the game for three years now, and uhh...
I used my college gmail when I first played the game. Graduated that same year. I could still play, though, just couldn't log out.
But then, in November, google had a log-in bug which uhhhh basically made my account gone, since I needed to relog.
So, o7 to that account.
Also, it's meant to be cherry picked! No insane person would read 44 pages in one day!
Aside from the writer lol
"No insane person" is like double negative and basically says "Any sane person"
But I think I get your point. Still, it was not too much in the form of content itself, just that I needed the RELEVANT parts right now. Why would I read about construction in W2
Is anyone that plays this game sane?
I feel like most of us lost our sanity a while ago
Still sane, idler?
😉
Oh! You're only in W2?
XD Ik, just joking >;3
I fucking rushed to W5 and reached that 1 or 2 days ago
Oh really? Did the speedrunning portion help?
That’s a big rip, hope that changes soon. Would be devastating to lose all my progress bc of email de-activation 😭
Is there any way to link your account to a non-google email?
Same, I was f2p, so there was no proof my account was mine
Damn, that’s crazy. There should be a backup email allowed so things like that wouldn’t happen
To put that time in the game again after the 1st time I’d be livid lol
So you say?
🤣 Kerlobee's been waiting for a good time to post stuff in #best-suggestions-✅
Was saying in my other server that hopefully after w6 he starts working on suggestions (but it’s lava so who knows)
Pretty sure I’m one of the check mark reactions lol, I saw this one on there
That was weird lol
wondering if a new bonus in W6 will increase printer cap above 90%
What is the current process to check which items you need for looty shooty?
🤣 We'd be overpowered if that were true
even 91% would be huge
Slab for W5
!ie
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
yeah, would be awesone. fingers crossed
Go to W5 ---> Slab
No, doesn't work
Tells you what you have looted (ie secured for slab) and not rather than what you haven't picked up
Annoyingly, it does tell you how many items are missing for looty, granted, but not what they are. I went through my slab last weekend, alternating between clicking looted and not to see what was missing and they were all the same
Ah...
Looty doesn't have an indicator aside from the #.
Besides benefit of the stamps themselves, and stamp mastery for 95% off daily, are there other benefits of stamps?
why my looty said i only find 896 item went my slab said i have 903
So after roughly explaining the desastrous state my account is in after dumping everything I had to rush W5, do you think it is worth it to move my Bubo out of lab (where 8/9 of my chars sit and probably will for .. idk a month?) to get him up and running to boost alch gains? Right now he is lvl 86 and has ~World3 level of gear ... pretty useless with cranium
it just reminded me, as i was picking plants in my gaming garden, i dreamt of hitting 1billion 864mil nugget or something around those numbers
sad its only a dream xD
Not worth it, Bubo stays in lab with his friends until they're all level 50 in lab
Alright, lab jail it is
What is your current nug?
58.7mil
Noice
pogggg
Keep 6/7, 2/3 stay as divinity gurus, they can go get bear done
I know some of those digits
Yet I cant really piece it together in this context. Can you unpack that sentence a bit for me?
Keep 6 to 7 characters in lab, while 2 to 3 stay in divinity to unlock bear, which means those 2 to 3 characters can then progress even farther until you unlock the goat (fourth) divinity, which means you can then stick all eight or nine characters in lab
Wait know I know why I didnt get that. Thats what I understood initially but it just didnt make sense. Why would anybody ever do divinity again when they also can do divinity in lab? I got doot...
The entire reason why i blasted everything into W5 rush
isnt better to just keep eveyone on divinity till goat god?
ah he has doot
welp idk im not a dooter
^
XD same
Ohhh wait yeahhh you got doot
Yep, eight to nine in lab 😛 I'm sorry for not reading the context 😦
just all in lab till u get a cat
I'm too stupid 
true
cat?
Purrmep
ah
By cat you mean the only god which still needs to be atuned with doot? Like Purrmeow or so?
Ah yes
@worldly gulch Follow advice I said above, until you unlock purmep!
Then you can stop o7
Is there ANY effect of attuning to any other god besides visuals in login screen for me with doot?
Pettittion to change Purrmep name to Purrmeow
You got my vote!
#player-suggestions Go go go 😛
So if attuning does not do anything, that means that doot also gives full minor effects?
Yes, except for Purrmep
#👀read-me it's player_suggestions
the only "effect" u might wanna consider, is the fact that IE acts kinda dumb with doot ( doesnt realize u have Arctics and eveyone in lab ) so u might wanna link others to Arctics to avoid that problem
unless they fixed that and I am wrong
What's IE? :x
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
fuck it I am using the stopwatch... I cant wait for fractal anymore
;3 I listed useful links in the Introduction section of my guide
I'm sure they didn't. IE doesn't work with cooking speed (next plate) anymore, and can't even figure out current worship max charge. That alone makes the whole site untrustworthy to me. Meanwhile IT is dead on balls accurate.
I'm sane. 
whats a good item slab amount to aim for?
1400 
I'm sane 
can probably get like 1300 without insane hunting though
ur the least sane here red panda
I'm so close to diamond chef 🥺
there are still some things that I use IE for, but it's true that's it's become largely obsolete, tho the statement that IT is "dead on balls accurate" ( love that phrase btw ) isnt entirely true unfortunately
thubie said... that uhh.... I've been bluffing about roasting you.
just a bean f me