lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[paper sail]

Pretty sure we didn't get any new signs to connect to in W5, despite earning a ton of points to buy new signs

Colo if you have the tickets. Way way faster

[granite warren]

10 days till my first eclipse skull... SB is probably the next character im investing into...

[paper sail]

10 days is pretty slow 😅 You might be starting that project too early

[modern plaza]

unless its taking 1 character to farm it out in 10days xD

[granite warren]

I mean, its not 10 days to complete total, its 10 days left, SB has been in gmush for about 3 weeks now, lol

not doing it solely for eclipse, also doing it for furnace progress

[teal lynx]

If you are purely after gems you do Colo 3 with DK for Chizoar keys and then you do a lot of normal Chiz
This will take some time

If you can comfortable click 50-100 Colo Tickets daily from PO6, then you can get an extra 250-500 gems daily with an hour of effort

[muted plover]

i just need 70 gems for ancient a artifact

so... collo 3

[granite warren]

oh yeah, also gmush for money %, so its 3 birds with one stone

[kindred dagger]

🎉

[quiet viper]

nice tips for gem grind xaya 🙂

better get to it 😄

[urban gorge]

these bullseye statues are horrible to get. Getting like 50/hr

[open cloak]

yeah, I just gave up on it

[glossy owl]

was about to say that

[urban gorge]

gotta complete all onyx those..

[open cloak]

more important things to do

[worn sonnet]

Killroys are the same for everyone right?

[open cloak]

meh. not if it takes you 400 hours to get 20k of em

[urban gorge]

gotta do it sooner or later, why not now

[worn sonnet]

In that case if you don't have dream yet rats is a good map for it

[urban gorge]

nothing else of more importance comes to mind

[open cloak]

if you do it later it might be 10x or 100x faster

[teal lynx]

Based on personal weekly reset. But yeah it's the same for everyone. Some just get it a few days earlier /later

[worn sonnet]

I already had it done but I beat my pb

[kindred dagger]

@paper sail is something up with the website? Can't upload JSON, and it looks different.

[open cloak]

farm greenstacks, skulls, vials, all seem better use of time than 400 hours on bullseye statues

you do you though

[teal lynx]

The Website got a huge UI rework. Try tapping the 3 Bars on Top. Looking like 2 " = " stacked together

[urban gorge]

greenstacks and vials are mostly passive via 3d printer

[open cloak]

thats 50 per hour active right

farm bubo active much better

[kindred dagger]

I did. But earlier today, the site was white, and the three bars were on the top left. Now it's black, three bars are top center, but they don't do anything if you click them. I've refreshed, and X'd out of it and started over from book mark.

[open cloak]

or DK

[teal lynx]

I just looked at it on my phone and it looks normal for me 😅
Maybe you accidentally zoomed in

[urban gorge]

I suppose, i've got 9 guys getting 1k div/lab and active on DK

[granite warren]

Ive found that if you load a player's page, you can access that, but if you load a blank one, it wont let you

[worn sonnet]

Man dunno when that happened but someone else can finish the quest now

[open cloak]

yea getting that done on all your chars is a better use of time, too IMO

[kindred dagger]

Can one of you post the link to it? Or tell me how to scroll up to the top of the tips and tricks? Is there a button or something to get to the top of a thread?

[worn sonnet]

I don't know if it's effective but max killroy crystals on a vman sure is fun

[kindred dagger]

I want to see if my link is broken.

[teal lynx]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

Can always just tap on Scolis Profile. They have the link in Bio

But it's also pinned in the thread

[granite warren]

Oh thats interesting, the only difference between my bookmark and that link is the https, so maybe thats the issue, since I can open the menu there...

[kindred dagger]

Figured it out from your link. For whatever reason, my book mark was missing "https://"

[granite warren]

stupid secure hypertext bs

[teal lynx]

Hmm very interesting. I wonder why your bookmarks are wrong

[granite warren]

they worked until today, so something either changed on scoli or the hosts side (more likely the host)

[kindred dagger]

IDK. Been working fine for a couple weeks.

[granite warren]

man... my account progress is basically hardlocked by grinding Pearler Shells and Hampters... big sad

[signal osprey]

Thats a weird way to spell alchemy

[granite warren]

nah, alchemy chuggs along regardless of drop rate, lol

less than 90 lvls from the fabled Larrrry 501, but all other goals my account currently has would be made drastically easier with better armor/weapons.... and yeah....

[worn sonnet]

man

coli hard on vman

woohoo

[runic merlin]

How do i get my gaming multi up mine is 284b and my nugget is 13k

[worn sonnet]

Snail becomes the biggest source of gaming multi

[runic merlin]

I can only get like a few million green bits per harvest

[signal osprey]

Getting the equinox nugget bonus and clicking chems forever will be the biggest bonus to gaming by a lot

[paper sail]

Sorry, Xayayah shamed me into doing PO resets and I literally fell asleep. Yours does look funky. Are you on pc or mobile?

[teal lynx]

We already found the issue. The Bookmark was missing https://

[hollow rain]

If I want to farm for the string tooth pendant, I should fight normal Kruk with vman, right?

[mystic moth]

Nkruk with vman

*Assuming youve got a crapload of keys and the damage to farm nkruk on vman quickly

[sweet pine]

7k keys should be fine for an hour

[hollow rain]

Is the drop chance higher on Nightmare?

[patent hatch]

anyone know why my Egalitarian trap is not coming up for me to use? I only have access to Royal for some reason

[untold saffron]

because it doesn't exist

[hollow rain]

Those traps are only useful for the extra trapping power iirc

[patent hatch]

that will do it then lmao

[untold saffron]

and some base agility

[hollow rain]

Yep

[mystic moth]

Damage just has to be quite high to reasonably farm nkruk on vman

[hollow rain]

I just completed today the 10 characters task and my vman only has 31B when hard focusing dmg... If I were to focus on DR I'd probably get half of that, so I guess I'm not doing it any time soon

Thx for telling me tho👍

[worldly hollow]

small gains

[mystic moth]

Yeah like 1t is nice to just auto farm on vman lol

[sweet pine]

lucky you, all the pinchy hands are in their slumber

[worldly hollow]

i had to call it out first. not at a bill yet, but getting there lol

now for the bil sample. it needs to be the base sample not boosted right?

[sweet pine]

yeah

[worldly hollow]

got it. good to know

[sweet pine]

i'd suggest oak log on ES

easiest way to do 1b sample

[worldly hollow]

i havent resampled es

yet that is

just going through the list lol

been a while since ive sampled as the dk showed lol

[noble sable]

EAE mano tudo bem

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣

Thanks for the ping the second I opened up Discord

😛 I was going to be here for less than a minute

Lucky me ;3

[fierce oracle]

Were you sleeping?

[tiny laurel]

are there any specific mobs you should look for to get 2k kills for killroy

[worn sonnet]

Frogs or beans

[tiny laurel]

i alr have 15 points into mob respawning but i cant get past 1300 on the last months of mobs

[sweet pine]

rat / frogs / beans

[graceful warren]

Bubo, and something on a big map

[worn sonnet]

Rats are also possible but you need ms

[graceful warren]

poops also I guess

[worn sonnet]

I got the dream finished on frogs but my pb ||without the glitch|| is on this weeks rats

[graceful warren]

What's shiny pet max lv?

[worn sonnet]

As high as you want to take it

It just gets unreasonable to level it higher at a certain point

[graceful warren]

Yeah ofc, but about to reach lv9 with Crescent Spud so might as well have gone to 10 if it was maxed

[kindred dagger]

205k CC at Oranges, and 184k at worms. Would it be beneficial to go to worms, or stay at oranges?

[inland dagger]

just as Sue Donim said it gets unreasonable to lvl up at some point. I saw some people lvl up meal bonus or faster shiny lvl up rate shinies to level 10

[graceful warren]

I'm about to get lv9, lv 8 to 9 was 20 days

[sly sentinel]

just got bear god should i take a break from div and work on other things or wait till like goat
i kinda want to work on other things but i dont mind more afk if it means faster prog

[graceful warren]

2k is without any bonus and one slot so this look way scarier than it is

[graceful warren]

Think bear god is okay for now, just play a little then you'll have more divinity points bonuses when coming back

[graceful warren]

Depends if you really want this alchemy speed, but worms will gives better gold and xp so I'm on Worms personally

[open cloak]

shiny days stack if you have more of the same pet

??

wow

I was today years old when I learned that

I've jsut been getting all of mine up to level 5

[fading plover]

so throw like 12 of one pet in the yard to level it fast

[open cloak]

hrm

yeah. wonder what the priority is for shinies

[lapis elm]

shiny level up rate

[graceful warren]

Faster shiny lv rate, like obvious

[open cloak]

well eya

[fading plover]

shiny speed, infinite star signs, maybe meal effect

[open cloak]

i already have all star signs infinite

meal effect not a bad idea

[lapis elm]

What about W6 star signs

[open cloak]

i'll worry about that 6 months after W6 when he adds them

[graceful warren]

base critter/ trap is cool imo

[lapis elm]

But yeah, blitzing down refinery speed is good. Base critter is nice for vials

[fading plover]

i like artifact chance ones...cuz those odds suck

[open cloak]

meh I have all artifacts eldritch

[fading plover]

yea i don't yet so still useful

[lapis elm]

Obviously DR if you wanna flex your x24 eventually

[graceful warren]

Idk for refinery, like thats only 1 more %

[worn sonnet]

This guy doesn't know about divine artifacts

[fading plover]

lol right, new artifacts dropping right

[open cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/ummmmmm-excuse-me-what-gif-19629790

[lapis elm]

Getting a quick 5% on two pets ain't bad

Active BM tech

(please don't)

That reminds me to check on my shiny's. I don't even know wtf I'm doing with them anymore

[hexed pine]

bro any tips on how to reach w5 wave 50

cuz ma tower ain't maxed yet

[graceful warren]

STILL waiting on Eldritch Fury personally, if Divine is real I uninstall

[hexed pine]

poison is on 26

kraken on 30

[sharp wind]

This is the tips

Upgrade them

[graceful warren]

equinox buff

[open cloak]

nice. redid my oak samples and went from 80mil to 150mil

[graceful warren]

and upgrade em yeah

[hexed pine]

dawg

[open cloak]

A T O M S

me likey on triple print

[lapis elm]

What exactly are you dying to Because citric is basically all about your void speed and using snare if you ain't high enough

[graceful warren]

Be sure to work on your build speed, atom construction xp bubble if you can

[hexed pine]

aight

[vagrant mountain]

4 more levels 🫡

[graceful warren]

Assumed you know but xp over speed, and DKs are the only thing you want one board

[hexed pine]

yea i know that fosho

[sharp wind]

Im still in 53 and its so damn hard to upgrade it without equinox

[hexed pine]

it's just a bit slow for me currently but it's doing well yea

[graceful warren]

Yeah anyway equinox is the new meta

[open cloak]

any way to auto trash eggs

[lapis elm]

The regret of one that didn't get random island

[open cloak]

for faster xp

[lapis elm]

I wish. Would make shiny spamming faster

[open cloak]

i have like 10,000 eggs

ugh

[gilded bone]

I mean if you use the eggs outside of W4 town you can use multiple at once for the egg upgrade chance but I don't know if that's necessarily what you want to do

[open cloak]

idc, I just want breeding exp

I have all pets and shinies unlocked

[gilded bone]

You'd have less pets to breed but more xp per egg

[open cloak]

ah. so use the egg outside of the town

?

[graceful warren]

This actually works?

[gilded bone]

Yeah pretty sure that hasn't been fixed. If you use the eggs outside of town you'll be able to keep using even though it should be full and the eggs upgrade to the higher tiers

[quiet viper]

think i accidentally tried using eggs outside town yesterday and it just filled my cap, but i might be 100% wrong

[gilded bone]

You have to use them when it isn't full, you'll use the amount of eggs required to make it full but then as long as you don't go and look at it full you'll be able to use that same amount of eggs over and over and over each will have a chance to upgrade your eggs x amount of times

If that makes any sense

[open cloak]

it works

time to get rid of all these eggs

[graceful warren]

Wow

[fading plover]

gonna have to remember that trick for later

[gilded bone]

Happy to help

[open cloak]

used 1k eggs and went from 66 to 67.5

gotta take the wins no matter how small

😄

Thhanks btw

Just greenstacking my last 3 monster materials now

[chrome tiger]

that's busted... lv 100 breeding

[fathom lagoon]

Oh shit that’s pretty sweet

[hexed pine]

turns out i didn't even need to upgrade ma towers

[modern plaza]

someone has lvl 100 breeding?

[rugged token]

+1

Only 4 left to go

[snow light]

hoping to get a couple more done before W6 mostly the skilling resources at least and if my Vman can make his way there then monster mats im concerned about oranges and of course pearlers and hampters but not possible currently

[prisma drift]

The dreaded iron bar vial

I hate 2 minute claims

[rugged token]

i'll probably end up candying some of it but yeah i've just ignored it since it's useless until r13

[heady plover]

Does letting the dirty shovel stack attempts help? or use them as they come?

[prisma drift]

Use them

[rugged token]

use them as you get them, the time needed to get a new dig goes up per dig ready

[heady plover]

It is painful, I am at the point where the dirty shovel is the thing that is holding me back

x932 is too low xD

Nugget range: 82-130K

Especially with my potential range

[rugged token]

yeah, Unfortunately it's going to be like that until you finish the last superbit. Chem looping and nugget farming is a necessary evil for gaming progression

[snow light]

now that i finally have equinox for shovel maybe it wont be as bad

[rugged token]

It will be nice until you start getting nuggets in the millions

It really starts to show how much it sucks that the nugget rolls are exponentially weighted to low roll once you near that milestone

[snow light]

anything higher than my 43k nugget is better...

[magic ingot]

just got a top tier captain

lol

[rough wasp]

[rugged token]

[snow light]

[rugged token]

Hit God rank 4 on a 5% roll

[rigid cedar]

If I’m trying to farm plunder kills on SB will I get less plunder kills if I use an earlier game map like snelbie vs a late game map like citringe?

[paper sail]

Citringe is the single best map for Plunder kills in the game right now

Anything else is a loss

[rigid cedar]

Even though I can’t instantly kill the plunder citringe?

[paper sail]

Well that changes things lol

[rigid cedar]

So would snelbie be better?

I’m at 230M damage rn on SB

[paper sail]

You'd have to test yourself at that point, can't say

[rigid cedar]

all good ty for help

[noble sable]

i love gaming

its my favorite skill

[kindred dagger]

Liquidvestment question - As it's spilling over into the cauldrons, it's spilling into two skills. Does it split the spillage in half to capacity and rate? Or are we getting "free" liquid?

[snow light]

i assumed that it was more of a once full you get a % chance that the next point would be put into rate/cap and that is determined by a coin flip

though i could be wrong

[kindred dagger]

Oh, that makes sense.

[dapper prism]

once full 50-50 between cap/regen, and it goes over their own respective level up rates.

[kindred dagger]

Thx.

[modern plaza]

u can always invest less points so the plunder mob is weaker

[rigid cedar]

If a cintringe plunder kill counts as 1 and a snelbie plunder kill counts as 1 then what’s the difference if I farm snelbie vs cintringe? Ik the map is slightly more in favor for cintringe if you think about the abilities but that’s all I can think of rly

Unless cintringe plunder kills count for more than snelbie plunder kills

[snow light]

less platforms for the bombs to fly to

[rigid cedar]

Yeah but that’s the only difference

Snelbie is probably better bc my damage is only 230 M

[snow light]

and i think better spawn rate/mob density but yeah i would say snelbie/ram maybe even clammies are better

[rigid cedar]

Ah I didn’t think of ram or clammies tbh

I’ll see if those work better

[snow light]

is the best way to get statues in W3 with ES at the highest map (with corresponding statues for W3) lvl with highest DR attainable?

[modern plaza]

snelbies also give obols, clammies give pearls

[signal osprey]

If you cant do OJ do clammie. If you cant do clammie then you have more important things to do than plunderous mobs

[fading plover]

Yep es is the way in w3

[snow light]

cool ill work on that later then i want my construction to be focused right now and ES just lags with meteorites...

[dry tusk]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[tardy ridge]

Dammm

[dapper prism]

How bad is the filthy damage (trash island) star talent?

[young blade]

i get too many sticks and too feew acc statues 🙂

[bleak iris]

!chopchart

[snow light]

up DR?

[young blade]

is there a guide for that??

[fierce oracle]

no talent/ +3.5% from talent

[snow light]

#1141880730411094106 message

[bleak iris]

T is for teeny

[north socket]

whats the plan once i unlock chemical in gaming?

[snow light]

depends do you have the equinox shovel upgrade if you do then wait till a couple chems spawn in prefferibly T4-T5 then do chem trains if not then just kinda harvest all till you get to that point from what i know

[fast grail]

Do gaming for a bit, unlock a few of the super bits,, and then ignore until w6 because surely we will get more multipliers

[north socket]

dont have shovel upgrade :c

[snow light]

follow camp's help then i would personally just get used to harvesting all for a minute if you dont mind suffering like how i did for a long time i chem chained without the equinox upgrade for about 2 months and my nugget is barely 43k so it depends on what you do

[short sparrow]

So I just unlocked kitsune in gaming, is it worth the extra growing speed?

[north socket]

gets you more dna for mutations

[snow light]

from what i remember usually yes if you check the game often enough and at a certain point you just leave it on all the time.
if you are checking once to twice everyday it is not worth leaving on if you are checking every couple of hours it is worth it and once you get to a certain point usually right before chems you wanna leave it on all the time just cause the bonus is worth more than the negative

[short sparrow]

Oh fair I still have 3 of those left

[young blade]

well I think at this path I wont be able to drop my statues before w6 launches

[short sparrow]

I feel like I'm at a really weird point right now.. I just unlocked equinox stuff and atom collider, and can't really make progress in much of anything because slowly pushing citringes

[snow light]

what is your DR?

[short sparrow]

My samples are still really small

[young blade]

12 or so

[north socket]

youre pushing citringe with every character?

[short sparrow]

Just one right now

Doing div on others

[snow light]

that is about what i have you just gotta grind it out cause that is where i am kinda at this point just focusing on all "easy" statues and then moving on to "harder" statues like accuracy i think i was gonna do more afk hours for that than anything

[north socket]

lab and div felt like a burnout break to me

[short sparrow]

Hmm

[young blade]

missing these 3 and seesaw

[north socket]

push div while in lab with goat, if you do that, you can free a lot more out of lab once you finished div, only 6 char should be in lab in the end, thats 4 characters doing other stuff, like laddles, cranium cooking or statues, rare loot i dunno im not quite there yet

[snow light]

in my opinion depending on what you have done it may be worth it to actually go back and unlock other things instead of progressing though W5 if you have goat i would suggest putting them in lab with a good stance then go back and backtrack and what do you mean by samples are really small still some people consider like 100k small 1m small what is "small" sample size?

[short sparrow]

I've got 7 in div rn yeah, then mman leveling, bb chowing and DK pushing

[young blade]

https://mrblue.idleonefficiency.com
in case anyone was curious, working on a lot of stuff, lots of red flags etc

[north socket]

forget atom colider if you dont have vman

[short sparrow]

Still trying to unlock goat, my samples are like 160k oak and 60k copper, those are my highest right now I think

[north socket]

do you have vman?

[short sparrow]

No my mman is at like 110 right now

[north socket]

focus on that, like all your ressources

[short sparrow]

Well I am doing as much as I can for that I guess lol

Leveling gt bubble, chowing for 1m kills

[north socket]

samples will x5 or x10 with vman, dmg will be better etc he supports all other chars

do you have choco chip?

[short sparrow]

I do

[north socket]

put choco chip on vman, buff the shit out of him with every dmg item and card set you can, and throw him in crystal fishing island

[snow light]

these are the ones i need...

[short sparrow]

I thought the crystals from Choco chip on the island didn't give any bonus stuff

[snow light]

no but they still respawn and CCD still counts that as crystal kills so it is worth it and it is major exp boost my lvl 379 Vman got like 6 lvls from that island after a week

[north socket]

pretty sure they all give the same exp as crystal from last unlocked map

(the choco chip ones)

[short sparrow]

It took my DK like over an hour to kill the mobs there at 4m dmg, my mman doesn't even have 1m

[snow light]

it is fine imo because you need a lvl 150 mman to get Vman unlocked anyways so it is relatively important

[north socket]

library checkout, get gear, do what you gotta do, use all ressources on mman

then just go for it, even if you dont kill them all and you have to leave or turn off pc before they all dead, your mman will thank you

[short sparrow]

Well I will try that tomorrow then

[north socket]

i discovered fishing island while pushing for vman, now my vman is my second highest char behind bubo

[young blade]

now that i think about it, with wormhole it gets up to x15.5

[snow light]

Wormhole/orb are a different multiplier because it is "Active" DR/EXP so it should be multiplying your DR i believe at least orb does and my DR for reference

[young blade]

so u mean it'd be a x28?

[snow light]

something close to that yes it is hard to say if it is multiplicative or additive on another level but i dont delve into the game code so i can't give specifics cause it works on cystals for the DK and their statues

[open cloak]

am I a psycho if I greenstack mirrors

[snow light]

its been done before i believe

[open cloak]

damn how is your DR so high but your damage/stats/gear so low

[snow light]

i focused on other things in the game as much as i could before i got to this point cause i recognized that DR is REALLY REALLY good

[open cloak]

it's impressive DR

don't mean to trash your other stats

me for example

[sinful aurora]

To answer your queation, orb/portal doesnt affect dr. It increases the number of times you roll on the table.

[snow light]

all good man a while back i sent my sources of DR because of someone asking and it hasnt changed much if anything really just the prayer is all

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[snow light]

oh interesting is it every 100 kills it rolls again?

[sinful aurora]

Lets say you have 400 on your orb. You roll for loot 5 times instead of 1.

[snow light]

cool that is awesome to know then at clammies where i am farming right now i get up to about ~500 for one wave of kills so i should get 6 rolls on the rare tables

[rugged token]

every 1 count on orb is 1% for it to roll an additional time, so to add onto wenapek's example if you had 450 count it would be 5 rolls and 50% chance for a 6th roll

[eternal wasp]

[open cloak]

so much greenstacking to do

[snow light]

so much more than me you got this man it is a slow grind this game

[open cloak]

here's my highest drop rate (via Idleon Toolbox)

not optimized for DR just checked it and got a screenshot

this is what I'm most happy about now

[snow light]

here is mine you can probably get higher than me honestly since you have kruk helm and boots i wouldnt be surprised if you had lucky luckier lad as well

[open cloak]

I have like 100 lucky lads

no luckier let

I should just craft it

DR isn't most important thing for me, it's all about the printing

[snow light]

this is my prints with oak logs being my biggest contributer to atoms

[open cloak]

nice

I need to sample oak on my other 2 mages

whats your sample sizes

[snow light]

i need to book the relevant talents before i resample honestly...

[snow light]

keep in mind i just recently got doot like last wednesday...

and i have been a little too busy with real life to sit down for a couple hours to resample...

[open cloak]

ohhhhhhh

I need a doot

$$$$$

[snow light]

yeah spent a little more than i would like but i allowed myself to spend 25$ a month on this game since it is really the only game i play anymore and last wednesday i reached that 2 month point and decided it was time for green gems to roll a doot and i was lucky enough to roll him

[rough wasp]

Time to resample

[strong nexus]

how do i drop exacly 4 coconut went my drop rate make me drop 1 on evry mafioso

a nevermind got it

[ivory arch]

Uhhh my captain didn't refresh

Just not there

Fixed

[glossy pike]

What’s the team composition for wave 50, I’m up to w2 shellbie and w1 stick

[snow light]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

look under pets they have a pretty good guide i followed this and with good rng and 10k power pets you can do all of arena in a couple tries

[keen moon]

does this "closest building" on IT assume blood berserker and obols?

[sinful aurora]

It does when you're active on it after an automatic cloudsave happens.

[patent hatch]

oi oi lads how doth thy yonders?

[snow light]

suffering through resamples since i got doot and finally decided to better my account instead of being lazy

[patent hatch]

well now that you have the most op buff in the entire game you will see insane gains

[snow light]

i did my copper literally doubled... i havent done my logs yet but i am doing bugs next

ill share results after i am done

[patent hatch]

huge

I'm waiting for w6 to do mine, I should hit the 1 bill comfortably at that point

[worn sonnet]

Just getting the 6x sample print on everything is huge

[patent hatch]

I think I'd be around 850m right now If i were to do it as my stats stand

[worn sonnet]

not to mention everything else

[tall dirge]

is it possible to neglate prayer curses ?

[sinful aurora]

There's curses?

[worn sonnet]

There's a gaming buff that does it but it's not worth

[sinful aurora]

No but seriously most of them are irrelevant.

[tall dirge]

oh yesss i recall

ty

[patent hatch]

yeah, that, omni procs and freedom of lab are the biggest boons it offers

not to mention the other stuff too lol

[sinful aurora]

Full omni procs must be nice. Refinery go brrr

[patent hatch]

atoms too

one day when I grow up I want to be Doot <.<

[sinful aurora]

You'll grow up to have mummy issues?

[patent hatch]

bazinga

@snow light You will be able to get the equi buff for nuggett gain soon

[snow light]

i got it later that day and now it is lvl 3

[patent hatch]

nice

[snow light]

havent had it in me to start a chem train yet though

i still feel so defeated after knowing what i know now

[patent hatch]

ironic considering the time you dumped into it before lol

[snow light]

yeah just burnt out on it right now maybe when i find some time i will do it

[patent hatch]

I can hardly be bothered either, I got the super bit with 400k red bits to boost skill exp but the other good ones are out of my reach

[snow light]

right now since i am resampling i am taking the time to make everyone i have a "skilling set" in their inventory so i dont have to swap around skilling sets to each and every character

[patent hatch]

I don't even bother with that. I have good key rings and gear that goes to all. excluding the obvious like skill specific efficiency

[snow light]

i already had all my toons skilling since i wanna get that skill mastery so it is minor changes here and there mostly chips though

[proven iron]

How rare are eldrich artifacts compared to ancients?

[rugged token]

.03% odds at new artifacts for eldritch

[proven iron]

I should try pushing rift. Lava really should have swapped eldritch artifacts and eclipse skulls places i suppose.

[snow light]

depends on where you are at if you are some place decent in dmg and can get there within a timely manner then yeah go for it cause you are gonna do it anyways and by timely manner i mean within 48-72 hours no real reason to push it off imo

[gritty sierra]

Dumb question but... what's the voidwalker version of the talent that adds points to all talents...

I forgot what it was

[snow light]

doesnt have it sadly only gets it from ES family talent bear from divinity and rift slug and even then not all his tab 4 skills can be increased

[gritty sierra]

Hmmm right now when I add a point to something in tab 1 2 3... I get +36

[snow light]

so probably +25 from rift +5 from ES and +5 from bear or something close to that

[gritty sierra]

I see I see

Hmmm from rift...

Every portal opened = additional talent per?

[snow light]

for Vman his top left skill gives +30 points per portal opened but that is to spend not extra per point spent

[gritty sierra]

For example... all the other classes have that symbols of beyond... tab 4 bottom right

[proven iron]

Well lvl 31 rift mobs have 10b hp.
My strongest character ES, has around 60mil tooltip and does around 550m damage per hit.
I'm really not sure how far i'll go. Most likely i'll just hit a wall on one of the boss monsters.

[gritty sierra]

Was wondering if there's a vman version

[snow light]

the ones i circled should be the only ones that get any kind of bonus Vman has no symbols of beyond

the only ones are bear from divinity, ES family talent and rift slug from companions

[gritty sierra]

Oooooo rift slug... forgot about him

[snow light]

took about 2-3 hours but my gains are approximately 3x and i dont expect this much gain ever again for a while...

[soft pawn]

Hi, not sure which chat I should ask about this - on PC steam version I'm missing two infinite star signs that I see on my mobile, what could be the problem?

[snow light]

probably cloudsave not updated? is the only thing i can think of right now i cant say since i am not as vetted as the others

[soft pawn]

Weird, desync issue should fix upon me double checking my shiny pets, changing characters, maps or something but nothing seems to work

[snow light]

cant say then sorry i cant help you here

[dense turtle]

is there a trick for the pong game instead of just getting good? ^^

[tacit tulip]

mostly just mild advice

every bounce the ball gets faster, every goal, the ai paddle gets faster. Generally easier to bounce a few times safely then go for the goal rather than always trying to outplay it and putting yourself in a bad position

playing on a low pop server is advised too, as it seems to reduce (but not stop) lag spikes

[steady beacon]

it only just occured to me that BB is going to get a massive damage boost once W6 comes out. 😄

[dense turtle]

thanks for the advice 🙂

[solid jolt]

I've wasted all of this year's luck

got 3 time ballpit

and also got a stamp

[patent hatch]

well done gozu, hit tripple figures

[solid jolt]

another ballpit

another ballpit

I got 450 gems, 5500 yellow balls, a stamp and 5 ballpits

[patent hatch]

o.O

[solid jolt]

sadly I had the stamp already

[patent hatch]

:(

[solid jolt]

if trading was a thing I'd trade it for a doot

trading items*

I guess I'll keep it

[patent hatch]

I'd trade my entirei inventory for one, wouldn't be too hard to get it again

[teal lynx]

Pray for my Doot

[keen elbow]

whats the best way to farm obol frags? gated from my hex/sparkle dices

[raw badger]

Bean Killing with DK

[teal lynx]

NOOOOOOO. I needed Ram or Doot

[hollow gazelle]

[teal lynx]

It's absolutely worthless, but hey atleast I now got T5 Treat and my odds are better

[hollow gazelle]

10 beans in a row incoming

[pale crag]

I wanted slug

[teal lynx]

I would take 10 Beans

[keen elbow]

Gotcha

[shy flame]

will trade ram for rift

[keen elbow]

ill do that trade 🧘‍♀️

slime this week, worthless

missing slug ram doot

[teal lynx]

W2 Crystals are way better for Fragments. W2 only drops silver and gold obols resulting in 3/9 fragments. W1 can only drop bronze (1 Fragment). So you got some misinformation

[shy flame]

I've heard 100 liquid per hour is a good rate, is that 100 liquid per hour with dragonic cauldron??

[keen elbow]

o ok, so just continue sandy pots?

[teal lynx]

If you only want Fragments, yeah

[shy flame]

I think technically they can drop bronze and gold luck obols but yeah, good area for fragments

[keen elbow]

ig its time to turn these dice obiols into frags

running out of space

[teal lynx]

ain't gonna screenshot the rest. But it's 4 Silver Obols. 1 Gold obol and 1 Bronze obol from W2
Edit: I think I misunderstood what you mean - Yeah they also drop 1 bronze obol 😅

[shy flame]

I wouldn't turn dice obols into frags until you have 2 full sparkle dice

[keen elbow]

yeah but i have a full inv of dices

with no frags

🧘

[cyan mantle]

I've been pushing them all (besides my bubo) through w1-w4 just for the lvls

[hollow gazelle]

Im just filtering all w2 obols at this point

[shy flame]

Ah, I actively manage my obols more than my drops because it's less room, so I've started blocking all bronze obols from dropping

gold luck obol or dice obol only pls and tyvm

[hollow gazelle]

Same I filtered all obols tho cuz I just leave it running in the background

[shy flame]

I've had my bubo active in the background for over a week I feel your pain, Heda

[hollow gazelle]

I need to regrind w2 defense statue cuz I screwed up to onxy it and my obols fill up in like 20 min

[shy flame]

rip, first time I had 20k health statues I did deposit instead of drop

[hollow gazelle]

Haha

[shy flame]

lol okay it is probably funny to people not me but I was like devastated lol

I saved all them statues up and then... just completely ruined what I was supposed to do

[hollow gazelle]

Im only missing a few more onxy statues but Im not gonna do accuracy and all the w3 ones they just take way to long

[shy flame]

w3 and accuracy are my bane, working on w5 and maybe the w4 quest ones

[hollow gazelle]

I already have all w4 and w5 they were so easy compared to w3

[shy flame]

at least when you grind out accuracy statue you get wood circles

[hollow gazelle]

I get more of them than statues

[shy flame]

I think I did w1>w4>w2 and am over halfway done with w5 but got distracted by other things

[hollow gazelle]

I did w1 w2 w4 and then w5

[teal lynx]

I'm just gonna remind you that you can Candy W3 and Accuracy Statues

[hollow gazelle]

I get like 20 per candy

[shy flame]

My dentist tells me that if I use too much candy I will get cavities

[teal lynx]

I'm not even sure what a reasonable rate for Statues was. Maybe Trickz has it in his guide

[shy flame]

But yeah, they're obviously candiable, but it isn't as efficient feeling as like dk on beans or other statue farming things

The issue isn't not knowing what to do, it's just that doing what feels the most natural to progress feels a bit wasteful

[scarlet cypress]

If you want levels youre usualy better of just going to the highest world tbh. Clearing «old worlds» doesnt exactly give alot of exp

[teal lynx]

63 - 87 depending on Mob for Trickz. It's find if you get 60%-80% of the value that Trickz got - Just gotta justify the Candy to yourself

It's definitely worth Candying instead of active ES for a Week+ straight

[humble garnet]

how to increase breeding exp gain

[shy flame]

oh, I should note "efficient feeling" isn't a valid metric, if you spend an hour DKing w4 statues and get 100 but can candy w3 statues for one hour and get 300 well, even if that doesn't feel as good, it's pretty good rates and better thanwhat you're working with

[hollow gazelle]

Hmm I will try later to min max my gains hopefully I can get a resonable amount

[teal lynx]

Unlock more Pets, Upgrade the 'secret' xp multiplier in Upgrades, I believe Gold Eggs was best for XP
The main source of XP is unlocking more Pets

[shy flame]

be a fan of upgrade text

[hollow gazelle]

Don't forget stamp and BM talent

[teal lynx]

Don't feel forced now. Can always go for more Dr / Damage (if you really wanna active) / Gear that would increase the amount you get. And it's useless anyways if you don't have the 100% snakeskin vial yet (which I'm not sure you have)

[shy flame]

what should you do when you're struggling to eldritch all artis?

[teal lynx]

Pray for Eldritches

[cyan mantle]

Sacrifice one of your people

[shy flame]

What should you do when you're struggling to eldritch all artis but have also been banished from your local catholic church

[hollow gazelle]

My ES dr is at 14 rn and my damage at 300bil if I min max. My snake vial is at 98 I can get 100% today

[teal lynx]

On a more serious note. Equip Golden Hampters / Omniphau and try to get sailing procs. Check in every 2-4 hours and don't use unending loot

[shy flame]

if you can get snake vial at 100% today go do it so good

[hollow gazelle]

Have to pray for printer goes brr proc

[shy flame]

I know a place where you can pray, if you can sneak me in

[hollow gazelle]

[shy flame]

for the record I appreciate you giving joke answers then serious answers, I like the jokes and appreciate also getting actual advice

[frigid sage]

How much maxxed vial do you need to have 100% on the snake one ?

[teal lynx]

27

[shy flame]

uhhh... I think 27 based on Autoreview

27 including snake vial

[frigid sage]

..... that à lot more than what I thought off. Well vial farming here I come

[shy flame]

make sure to cover your basic skill mat vials like copper ore, oak logs, etc. All of those combined get you halfway there

[tacit tulip]

crystal custard for me today, again still no slug or doot

[shy flame]

gz delicious custard

[teal lynx]

I always said I would rather have a guaranteed Ram than a chance for Doot. Well Slug it is
Maybe next week

[frigid sage]

Yeah that what I'm on at the moment but I'm lagging behind on my prints I need to redo them but men this is painful to prep for

[shy flame]

The best advice I can give you is to recognize that you don't have to keep up with the end game players who got Doot first day of pets after spending hundreds of dollars. It's okay to progress slower, as long as you're still enjoying the game, and enjoying the game should be the main purpose of playing any game

[tacit tulip]

mostly just a case of sampling without doot is much more awkward

which gets frustrating 😄

[shy flame]

That's fair, was just trying to provide some positivity for the dootless and non spenders ❤️

[normal minnow]

hello w5 chat

hello xaya 👋

[teal lynx]

Hey Rac

[shy flame]

Rack is Nordstrom's discount store

[teal lynx]

What u doing?

[normal minnow]

idk if it's a good idea but im farming citringes for their cards

slowly working on alch and stuff too

almost hit 20m dmg

[teal lynx]

It's okay depending on Card rarity. For example: The Card can give you more damage for rift and unlock a good bonus

What level is your card rn and how far do you wanna go?

[normal minnow]

only problem is this

card still lvl 1 lol !

[shy flame]

which map are you farming on again?

[teal lynx]

Active will drop more with ES. But I probably wouldn't go further than lvl 2 then
Let me quickly check the rates on wiki

[normal minnow]

citringes

[shy flame]

Are you using DK or no?

[normal minnow]

only char i have on citringes is bubo

next map for my dk

[shy flame]

Ah, if I wanted to farm citringes I'd probably use DK, both for the statue gain and just to get tons of other drops including cards

[normal minnow]

no chocochip so kinda hard for me to grind statues rn but i get the idewa

idea

[shy flame]

ES is likely better for cards in general but I think you probably accomplish more goals with DK

I will give you my choccy chip lava please allow this

[worn sonnet]

oof

you just missed a choco

[normal minnow]

yea

i didnt miss it

i didnt have the materials needfed

[teal lynx]

I don't see a "Cards needed for x Stars" feature on the Wiki. I could swear there was a feature like that

[normal minnow]

i need 8 more cards for lvl 2

[shy flame]

Xaya about to give you best advice so you still have a chance

[normal minnow]

maybe i should do some resampling soon

[teal lynx]

Probably stop at lvl 2 if you need a few hours per card 😅

[shy flame]

there is, I recall it from doing easy/medium resources and seeing like 4.6k needed for all resource cards to be ruby

[normal minnow]

yea im gonna do that

should i start on rift?

i havent even completed the 1st challenge 💀

[shy flame]

You could wait to unlock cards, or you could do a sick burn out in your car then drive through the citringe card shop

[teal lynx]

Oh found it. You need to go on the Monster and then specifically click on the Card in the drop table

[frigid sage]

If you are at citinge, rift up to 15 should be doable in a resonable time

[normal minnow]

im already at moles 💀

my account is just

alchemy? what's that?

https://jesusholder.idleonefficiency.com

[teal lynx]

Yeah another 66% more cards is probably not worth it if each card takes hours

[frigid sage]

Then rift up to 15 is a big boost in all the skills

[shy flame]

If you don't know what alchemy is I think my sick burn out strategy is best for you

[tacit tulip]

yep definitely the alchemy lol

[normal minnow]

yea 💀

dw im working on it

[fast grail]

Alchemy is good because of FMJ

[shy flame]

alchemy isn't as good as sick burnouts, espsecially wheelie burnouts

[normal minnow]

also speaking about rift, should i worry about waiting till i can chow/superchow them

or just go for it to get the bonuses

[fast grail]

worry about zowing it, otherwise by the time chow/superchow matters, you will easily be able to do them

[normal minnow]

i see

cause im just scared that if i for example finish rift 1 i cant zow that mob anymore

if you get what i mean

[shy flame]

in all seriousness literally everyone other than me is giving you better advice, however....

https://tenor.com/view/wheelie-motorcycle-motorbike-riding-cool-guys-gif-13817585

[normal minnow]

that is pretty cool

[noble mesa]

I think all rift mobs count as 1 type

I think

[normal minnow]

i see

@teal lynx is this true

[worn sonnet]

Yes

[normal minnow]

cool

then im just gonna do rift as far as i can

[shy flame]

yes it's true doing a wheelie burnout is cool as hell

but yeah, rift mobs likely count all as one type, they don't really change beyond HP as you progres through the rift

[normal minnow]

rift 1 done

[teal lynx]

Yeah you can do the superchow across all rifts. All count as one

[normal minnow]

i see

so ig i was worrying for nothing

[eternal dove]

only 10 more days left for my mega nothing upgrade

[teal lynx]

After Skill Mastery (Rift 16) you could wait a little and see how much kills you get on your BB. The next upgrade (Eclipse Skulls) is nothing you should worry about at that stage of the game

Alternative: Just push and do that whenever you feel like it

[normal minnow]

i assume if i wait it will be easier?

[teal lynx]

You will get more damage so you multikill stuff
Later rifts scale immensly in health and it will be harder to multikill

[normal minnow]

makes sense

[teal lynx]

It's weird to superchow rift. It's either too early, good or too late
I was too late

[normal minnow]

rift 2 done

does mob respawn affect the spwan rate of rift mobs

[teal lynx]

Should affect them

[normal minnow]

alright

[fast grail]

Even without multikill tiers , you can eventually get over 1m kph once actually care about super chow

[shy flame]

I can't care about super chow because the name just reminds me of Futurama's "Bachelor Chow: now with flavor!"

[normal minnow]

also does it lag for anyone else whwen they teleoprt into the rift

[fresh gate]

can anyone help out for W4 achievement? need people to /dance in w4 town 🫡 booky 6!

[quiet oracle]

does king doot also give the divinty blessings to everyone?

[shy flame]

Are you sure booky is the right name? Also this is a w4 question in w5 chat smh but I'm also not finding a booky server so I can go help

[shy flame]

nvm found booky

[teal lynx]

Blessing are active regardless of linking to a god

[fresh gate]

yay! thank u

[quiet oracle]

ok thank you!

[teal lynx]

Doot gives the "Link-Bonuses" and "Minor Link Bonus" to everyone. Only exception is Purrmep (Tiger). Someone needs to manually connect to them - Best to put your highest Divinity Char on them

[shy flame]

As far as I know we got you your achievement, if not I can go back and keep dancing

[shy flame]

Ligers deserve special attention

[quiet oracle]

awesome, i just got king doot on my weekly pet so this helps a lot thanks!

[normal minnow]

rift 4 done

[teal lynx]

Mine stopped at Slug today - Already had slug
But lucky for you 🥳

[shy flame]

I'm free to afk bubo forever right? you got your dancey achievement?

[teal lynx]

The W4 Achievement requires 5 people to dance. And if they don't answer again you can always go away

[shy flame]

I just wanted to make sure they were taken care of since they asked for help and that I was now free to listen to obscure punk bands

[normal minnow]

rift 6 done

and considering that i use 20 hr traps that technically means i dont needa collect them anymore right

[teal lynx]

Nice. Would be really good if you can go up to rift 16

[normal minnow]

nice

[shy flame]

skill mastery

[teal lynx]

Might need to wait one day, since they might be out of sync with your daily reset. But after that you are good to just let them auto collect

[normal minnow]

alright

[shy flame]

you should also aim to achieve more than The Front Bottoms in their video for Laugh Till I Cry

[tacit tulip]

we're on the final stretch

[shy flame]

Powerful, being so close to pickle level 2

[raven fog]

Guys whats the eng game for spices what pets should i put

[shy flame]

End game is understanding how Indian food works

[raven fog]

Bunch of curry

But what petd should i put

[shy flame]

This si what I've used, I don't think it's the most recent or accurate
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[zinc torrent]

is it worth pushing?

[tacit tulip]

the first few maps are worth doing to unlock the taskboard

but otherwise you ideally shouldn't be pushing deep into w5 without multikill

lava is due to release w6 by next month too, and he typically nerfs portal requirements when he does so - so you can catch up quicker by working on stats for now

[raven fog]

What is atomic nblb

[fast grail]

God I’m ready to get to last map of w6 in less than 12 hours

[shy flame]

NBLB with the benefit of atoms to improve stuff

[teal lynx]

Tell me all about the Giga Beans at the end of W6. A flat platform like Citringes with 35 Mobs

[shy flame]

I thought my fellow Mexicans were giga beans

[fast grail]

Bubo is fastest active pusher right?

[raven fog]

And what bogger is the best to get the best numbers is it the last one

[teal lynx]

All the same

[raven fog]

The bonus doesn’t make a difference

[shy flame]

Honestly I can't help but see bogger as burger, I'd go for a smash burger

Idleon content is ultimately pretty complicated and giving specific advice may help people "progress" but it likely won't lead to them actually progressing because progress is an illusioary concept

[raven fog]

Mm

[hexed pine]

ey i got it done today

[fast grail]

Daily reminder to level FMJ so you don’t get one shot by w6 crystals

[patent hatch]

I'm close too, missed around a week from being away over the past three months but finally a week away after starting with like 3 lol

[dire anchor]

levelling DKs orb gives more dr right? and then DKs orb is based off your own active dr ?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, it works a bit weirdly but effectively, 100 orb is doubling your DR

(it's something like it simulates 2 kills)

[tacit tulip]

realise I misread this. Levelling orb adds more time to it - which lets you get more kills, and a higher orb score, thus more DR

[orchid rock]

Is there a way to get "enhancement eclipse" talent from Vman to 250, or is it locked to 245 ?

[tacit tulip]

245 is the cap, assumed the 250 exists so lava doesn't have to make a new one when talent cap increases

[orchid rock]

Thanks !

[dire anchor]

okay yeah thats perfect i was kinda wondering if you can get more than 1% per mob kill or not

but that makes sense its just all time based

[tacit tulip]

so like here I'm getting 269% (3.69x) more DR

[wheat kiln]

Do you guys know whit what game engine works lava at idleon?

[dire anchor]

and then as well theres a certain level where people stop upgrading? bc the cooldowns would screw it over?

[tacit tulip]

267, 300 if you don't have mana box levelled for cd reduction

[glacial venture]

whats the max shimmers i can get on shimmer island or where can i see the tasks?

[dire anchor]

ok cool 267 is far from what im at rn so i dont think ill worry about that yet

[tacit tulip]

if you level it too high, placing the second orb down resets the score to 0, then when the first orb expires it sets it to 0 again

which really messes with your gains

[dire anchor]

ye that would be woeful

[tacit tulip]

wiki has the challenges https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Island_Expeditions

[dire anchor]

i think max is 40 shimmers

but you have to have the most insane levels of stats

[tacit tulip]

depends on the challenge, some are trivially easy

[tacit tulip]

others are much harder

[dire anchor]

yeah fair 24M hp seems possible

yeah 80m accuracy wouldnt be too bad if youre endgame

[glacial venture]

this week its the easiest stat to get 40.....accuracy

[normal minnow]

where can i see what i need to do for rifts

[tacit tulip]

acc gets silly very fast, even not for endgamers. This is my warrior with -59% from a prayer

[normal minnow]

like i've seen people send screenshots of a website

is it ie?

[tacit tulip]

ie doesn't have the tasks, IT does tho https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-4/rift

[glacial venture]

80m accuracy isnt even really w4 endgame^^

[normal minnow]

alr thanks

[dire anchor]

thats fuckin nuts im nearly at 1m ish but ive only just killed kruk so my guys are lvl200 ish

[tacit tulip]

hey you've killed kruk before w6 came out- that's really good

everything you gain now is pure planning for w6

[dire anchor]

pushing my obols for a few personal dr tabs and then gonna pray that statue farming power statues doesnt take forever

[steady beacon]

Any idea when the Jewels and Chips list will be updated? it only goes until April. Is the data just not available? Or is it that whoever was in charge of it hasn't updated in a while?

[tacit tulip]

wouldn't be surprised if they were one of the people who left after companions

[glacial venture]

or after gold bar disaster^^

[tacit tulip]

IT also has the rotations tho: https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-4/laboratory

[sinful aurora]

Dont remind me. Had me quit the game for 6 months.

[tacit tulip]

Assuming you're doing onyc 20k isn't too bad. choco is effectively 4x rates so if it would take someone 6 hours, it'd take you a day

[dire anchor]

need to get more pop obols and finally grind the last sparkle for a full 2nd set of DR obols farming fragments while killing beans to cut down the onyx

[steady beacon]

oh, that helps! Thanks!

[dire anchor]

luckily i got choco but my crystal rate is 1in66 so feels quite slow still

[tacit tulip]

that's not too bad if oyu have choco 🙂

[pale crag]

Ruby genie and poop

[steady beacon]

Ugh, this is so dumb. Purple Rhombol shows up 6 more times before the Emerald Rhombol shows up for the first time in half a year.

[dire anchor]

[tacit tulip]

there's a very strong argument to just gem shop the jewels

they're so strong

[steady beacon]

and Blak

[pale crag]

Card doublers?

[steady beacon]

and Black Diamond Ulthurite doesn't appear before June.

[dire anchor]

yeah sadly ive got none of those

[steady beacon]

Yeah, might just buy them, since they're the last two I'm missing

[pale crag]

Aah
That's why

[tacit tulip]

I don't think I actually grabbed a single jewel from the w4 shop 😄

[dire anchor]

yeah tbh i only got to the point where i could actually buy things from lab near the end of december

[tacit tulip]

maybe one of the early ones

[pale crag]

Buy when they come

[glacial venture]

maxed crystals 4 days@dire anchor?

or higher stamp lvl?

[tacit tulip]

Chaos chizoar for shrine effect is useful too

[dire anchor]

crystals for days is maxed my stamp is lacking sadly due to materials its lvl 90

[glacial venture]

isnt that passive?

[dire anchor]

C chiz is 4* for me rn

[tacit tulip]

It is, but levelling the card helps 😄

4* is good enough

[glacial venture]

even without card doublers it seems something is missing

[dire anchor]

this is the stats i think

[glacial venture]

shrine lvl?

[dire anchor]

crescent shrine lvl 11

[earnest elbow]

Oh that's

funny

Chocolatey Chips works on giant crystal island

[glacial venture]

its crystal island for a reason...

[earnest elbow]

me not very smort

[gray arrow]

cant wait for the update

[fading oracle]

You think hampter costs will be nerfed with w6?

[sweet mirage]

probably not

[graceful warren]

Pearler wasn't so don't think so, hampster dr might be upped tho

[glacial venture]

pearler costs got dropped

not at start but later on

[graceful warren]

Or nvm, thought abt items like ghosts and woodular who got boosted dr, but think it was bc boss items requires them

[fast grail]

Only cost drop for troll was golden thread right? From 10 to 3

[tacit tulip]

pearler was indeed nerfed. It used to be 20/40/60/80 depending on the tool, it's now flat 20 on all 4

[keen moon]

anyone seen the random event?

[open lava]

8 purples and no artifact
why is fury making me suffer

[tacit tulip]

and just think, it only gets worse

[open lava]

yeah
ill take a break after fury and unlock all the artifacts i havent

finally i passed 100 mil meal speed

[vagrant mountain]

🥹

[open lava]

this is like exactly 1 month since i had 500 meal speed

why did i mistake 78 for 7B

[rugged token]

+1 Only 3 left now

[mystic moth]

Just equinox, doot, and boops lefts

[normal minnow]

can i candy the afk quests in rift?

[upper mulch]

bro my gold nugget just went up from 34.5 to 399

[rugged token]

no

[heavy moth]

WHICH ONE SHOULD I GO NEXT

oups cap lock

[keen moon]

trapping

[teal lynx]

Wait for Forge Capacity

[heavy moth]

can you see in IT or Ie all bonus

i think i might have cap that one too

[mystic moth]

Rip sample size

[teal lynx]

IE > World 2 > Arcade

[heavy moth]

thanks

[rugged token]

If money is no object to you then base WIS/Trapping Critters/Starting TD Pts. rest are pretty wack for this rotation

[heavy moth]

aight thanks

[normal minnow]

does dr affect card drio rate

im assuming yes

?

[fathom lagoon]

Damn how is your drop rate only. 530 cost at max?

I’m at lvl 92 or 93 and it’s like 600+

[normal minnow]

golden ball stamp thing?

[fathom lagoon]

Oooo true that

[heavy moth]

yea golden ball stamp

[fathom lagoon]

Damn that’s fire. I need it

[heavy moth]

good luck 😛

[rugged token]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[covert flume]

does Nobisect give +50 scaled skill efficiency or +5?

[tacit tulip]

depends entirely on your current eff

it'll give 5 per level at the absolute minimum

[covert flume]

ahhh ok thank you

[normal minnow]

does anyone have the infinite refinary chart?

[covert flume]

then which lvl do i need to get more than 5? just askin because ES with lvl 60 divinity get 5 per level...

[fallen torrent]

11th attempt. Snail lv 22!!!! finally

[feral whale]

someone know about guide to post office boxes upgrades? not about how it work, but what to upgrade, i'm play pretty long and now have 4700+ total boxes, i want to know what boxes worth to upgrade before start to push all of them in Miriad crate

[fallen torrent]

Have you tried Auto review bot of Scoli? it tells you what lvl of salt you need to reach on every step of the process of the chart 😄

[normal minnow]

oh didnt know auto review bot does that

[rugged token]

Max all boxes with the exception of mana box on Divine Knight overflow afterwards into myriad crate

[fallen torrent]

@bold quiver Snail lv 22 😄

[tacit tulip]

the blessings don't scale with divinity level

Scaled eff specifically is a type of eff that grants you more the less eff you have

It's essentially a catch-up mechanic

[covert flume]

ahh ok now i understand... thanks for the info

[fallen torrent]

@tacit tulip now that i see the % of Snail 23.... idk if im willing to give it a shot xD

[rugged token]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[sacred verge]

im curious guys, what do you think is causing the idleon lagg?

[open lava]

finally 3 mil recipe speed

[tacit tulip]

you'll have to be more specific 😛

Generally, lagging behind on the clock is just caused by framelag. If your game runs at like, 50% speed, you'll lose half an hour for every 1 hour played

[sacred verge]

like for example when i bubo and do gaming, i tend to lagg. but my computer dosent seem to be struggeling

[tacit tulip]

oh that's easy, the game engine lava uses doesn't optimise very well

[sacred verge]

wel lthats sad

cus we are gonna have some huge lagg issues the further into the game we get then

[tacit tulip]

most lag is based on number of things/calculations happening at once

this is why PO boxes ruin the game, each box is its own separate entity that needs to move to the desired location

[rugged token]

Bubo make things die and not die very fast haha funny game go slow

[sacred verge]

i can understand the PO box, i dont find it to be a super huge issue

as its a rare scenario

[tacit tulip]

bubo and ES both spawn lots and kill lots of monsters,

these monsters generate resources which drop on the floor - each is its own thing and also has its own animation while on the ground

[sacred verge]

but for fighting...

[tacit tulip]

lava would probably need to do what he did for pet fighting and add a high performance mode to the game, reducing animations

[sacred verge]

we should probably get the option to remove loot animations

[tacit tulip]

even something as simple as turning off the floating animation of items on the floor would have a big impact

[sacred verge]

yeah

[hard jetty]

Does any1 know if The rift 1m mobs while afk task compounds with multiple characters ?

[sacred verge]

id be happy to just skip all loot animation (as an option) aswell. atleast the ability to select it for base mats, food etc

[fallen torrent]

i knew it too thats why i kept going L:D

nah

that lv 23 is scary

i did it with i think lv 20 or 21

[rugged token]

He'd have to do a high performance mode for no animations and also do an entity cram to put multiple drops into one pile to reduce lag a substantial amount

[tacit tulip]

one game I play has a power saver mode which basically stops rendering the game while you're not there. Something like that would be incredible tbh

[sacred verge]

tho i bet its gonna be far into the future, i dont think lava wants to spend his time doing that

[proven iron]

Part of the problem is that autoloot is a paid feature

So completely free users literally cant skip loot animation pretty much

[sacred verge]

they would just have to suffer then

the people with lag issues from loot etc usually have autoloot

yeah...

[open lava]

autoloot buyers will be mad if all of a sudden autoloot was free

[sacred verge]

but for real, the game is gonna become unplayable if he dosent do anything about it

[tacit tulip]

it'll depend how the new classes work

[sacred verge]

i wouldnt care at all if autoloot was offered for free

[tacit tulip]

if they're no more extreme than bubo/ES then the lag shouldn't really increase

[sacred verge]

id actually like it as it would certainly help draw people to the game

[sacred verge]

talentlvls etc will make it worse

[proven iron]

I mean at that point lag spikes literally seem to work as a balancing feature. Because for me when my bags overflow, even on powerfull gaming pc game grinds to a halt, and farming becomes like 100 times slower.

[jagged charm]

Would be helpful if loot is bundled in a bag to collect for later

[tacit tulip]

if I active run ES overnight, without filling up by bags, I get like 4 hours of lag lol

[proven iron]

Well usually game just dies at that point

[thin escarp]

if it were free that would be ok with me, but im not sure if that likely 5 dollar payday would be something hes likely to get rid of.

[sacred verge]

to be fair, if he would make autoloot a free feature it would still have been a well worth buy for everyone who got it early

[tacit tulip]

ES lag is mostly caused when idleon isn't the active window

windows can't grant the resources to properly run idleon at that point and it lags out

[open lava]

recent buyers might not like that

[rugged token]

It's because like we've said, the game has to track all of the enemies spawning/dying and calculate all of the loot drops and any entities on the ground so long durations are going to cause de-sync regardless of pc spec. the game is on an old engine that has terrible optimization options

[tacit tulip]

you heard it here guys, brave doesn't ge tlag therefore there's no issue

[proven iron]

And i had this more than once. And it is a good outcome compared to just completely freezing on weaker PC.

[tacit tulip]

This specifically is your GPU failing haha

[open lava]

sounds like what od say

[jagged charm]

Would you agree if those who brought autoloot gets a new qol when auto becomes free?

[open lava]

how old is your pc man

[potent gust]

Auto drop to chest done

[open lava]

even my shitty phone hasnt seen this

[tacit tulip]

yeah, and for pcs that lag, having the game inactive window exacerbates the issue

[sinful aurora]

Maybe. What could even equate autoloot?

[open lava]

that'd be fair

autoloot+autodeposit

[rugged token]

"Autoloot purchase now autoloots afk claims"

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-slamming-card-on-table-gif-21126320

[sacred verge]

everyones PC will lagg on idleon

[proven iron]

32gb RAM gforce 3060

[open lava]

huh an i9 eh idk some cpus dont mess with idleon mines way older but can run it without issues

[sacred verge]

specs wont make you "not lagg", i highly doubt even the best of computers get away lagg free with an midgame account

[tacit tulip]

yeah my laptop with a 13700 basically doesn't lag compared to my pc

[weak vector]

how long does it take to zow/chow the doot gmush?

[rugged token]

Imagine a world where you could candy resources/monsters and the afk claims auto loot so you only have to deposit all and click bubbles

[proven iron]

Basicly Idleon optimization most likely.

[rugged token]

few hours for chow, maybe 1-2h with decent respawn%

[tacit tulip]

I'd still be screwed cause I use like, 50 candy at once

my inv would be full and auto loot would be constantly trying to pick up the stuff on the floor, grinding to a halt

[proven iron]

I'm also playing on weaker PC and it occasionaly just straight up freezes in the moment of pc weakness.

[open lava]

maybe another yuumi afk sesh

[tacit tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

[cyan mantle]

That would have taken a while

[sacred verge]

<33

[tacit tulip]

I'm waiting on these for 200 stacks haha

impatient

[sacred verge]

yeah i know the feel

1 day and 15h for max symbols for me 😄

[tacit tulip]

Currently on 192

Can do 5 statues (197)
Time thingies (198)
Magma barrels (199)
then candy out void bars as 200 and let the forge eat it

[sacred verge]

100% do bubo at frogs for time thingy

i have not tested bubo vs dk i must admit but it does feel like bubo is getting waay more

[tacit tulip]

that's an interesting note, but time thingies come from crystals right?

[sacred verge]

yes

[tacit tulip]

wouldn't that indicate that statues would also be greater on bubo there?

[sacred verge]

iirc boa and carrot drops em aswell

statues are greater on bubo

[tacit tulip]

then...why does anyone beans with dk

[sacred verge]

cons

[tacit tulip]

ah right 😄

[sacred verge]

its a fairly new strat tho

[rugged token]

you still get more of everything on DK at beans vs bubo at frogs, only reason to do frogs is to get some alch progress instead of con progress

[prisma drift]

Did someone else test?

Statues was still slightly better with DK at beans

When I seen the first round of tests

[tacit tulip]

I don't have rift slug so can't do 300 orb either, which is a point in bubos favour

[sacred verge]

its very similar

the last test ive seen bubo was slightly better

[tacit tulip]

I've finally stared atoming bob so I think I'll just stick with DK for now

[vernal grove]

I just got super lucky on my nugget multi in gaming. I barely had an over 400x on it and just got one that boosted it all the way to 6205x

[iron gazelle]

it stopped happening too often for me after a GPU drivers update i had forgotten about

[proven iron]

Well my work pc has integrated graphics, and very old at that, so it just sucks.

[tacit tulip]

it basically happens if the GPU fails to render for whatever reason. For most games (and even discord) this will crash them but idleon keeps running just in a uh...basic state

[proven iron]

Some day we will be able to greenstack this

[tidal comet]

Is it normal that around 300k bits gaming feels stale and slow?

[subtle meadow]

dam chopping statue farming is such a pain, how many statues is needed for lv200

[dim wind]

Is this optimal to candy deathnote kc, or would the 20% attack speed chip be better than one of em?

[static basin]

swap trophy doubler and whichever card doubler is doubling boops, to mob respawn

[dim wind]

oh interesting, thanks!

[static basin]

im assuming u have the fomo mob respawn keychain, but if not, another mob respawn chip instead of keychain doubler might be better

[dim wind]

no I dont

[signal osprey]

People still do beans because frogs isnt even better statues

[paper sail]

Frogs are only about 80-85% of the statues

[normal minnow]

hi scoli 👋

[cerulean hemlock]

Beans ❤️

Good Morning everyone 😄

Had a hard day yesterday ;3

[paper sail]

Hello, morning

[untold saffron]

@paper sail have you considered expanding the utility bubble tiers? (770 dia chef, 1140/1940 big P, 900 carpenter and so on)

i think those are milestone levels off the top of my head

[paper sail]

I have thought about it, and I want to do it. I just haven't put time into deciding what to add yet 😅

[untold saffron]

[normal minnow]

good morning AAAAAAA

i hit 22m dmg today :D

account is slowly being fixed

[cerulean hemlock]

😄

[cerulean hemlock]

Wooh!

@fast grail Keeping you posted

[tidal comet]

do you take dmg from tremor wurms?

and from the crystals?

[cerulean hemlock]

Me?

[steady spruce]

are there enough redmush for bubo to do lava skull active, or am i better off with a different class to do deathnote there?

[cerulean hemlock]

On my old account, I think 10~ish damage?

[normal minnow]

so what happened to ur old acc AAAAAA

[cerulean hemlock]

Crystals was 100~ish

[tidal comet]

yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah...

[normal minnow]

havent heard the story before

[tidal comet]

how did you lose your account tho

[cerulean hemlock]

College Account 2.5 years ago, then I graduated the year I made the account.
It was fine... for a while, all I needed to do was not sign out!
Then a google bug for EST people came along.

[rugged token]

135k defense for no damage on tremors, camp and gardevoir have 3m+ defense

[cerulean hemlock]

So we had to relog to get rid of server issues

But I couldn't relog.

[normal minnow]

so you basically lost the google account is what im getting?

[cerulean hemlock]

But I had to.

[normal minnow]

yeesh

[cobalt nymph]

ouch

[normal minnow]

unlucky

[tidal comet]

dang

sounds pretty unlucky to me

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣 That was the final stroke of bad luck I had for that year.

When it hit, it hit hard

[tidal comet]

i dont even know if that is good

[cerulean hemlock]

It happened in November

[tidal comet]

november 2023?

[cerulean hemlock]

Now I'm stuck with this.

[tidal comet]

still better than me and i played since end summer event

[cerulean hemlock]

11/17/2023

[normal minnow]

better than me entering w5 with less than 1m dmg 💀

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣 It's day 48 now

[normal minnow]

(my account is still fucked)

[tidal comet]

bro has it memorized

then you know its fucked up

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣 I searched my gmail for the message I sent to Lava

[tidal comet]

I could get in world 5 in two months with the knowledge i have now

[normal minnow]

is efaunt armour worth making?

[cerulean hemlock]

;3

[normal minnow]

i dont think i've made efaunt amour

[tidal comet]

nah actually three months im bad

[kindred dagger]

You guys ever click on other people and wonder WTF?

[cerulean hemlock]

Based on your level, Chizoar would be prefferable

[tidal comet]

The pants give good defense

[cerulean hemlock]

Nah

[tidal comet]

AHAHHHAHAHAH

[normal minnow]

that's what people think if they ever click on me

what's wrong with this image !

[tidal comet]

but why does bro not have a pickaxe