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lol
Anything I missed? Good Morning Icy! 
it is a bit hidden XD
Ours is at level 35 >;3
I severely underestimated how long it would take to do 1 quadrillion damage with my current character
@keen rapids Joined the server, and I'm waiting to apply for guest roles to
Help you <3
Pardon?
Your server! >;3
What server?
Ik jakkabi but i still don't get what you're on about?
I want to take a glance at the server XD
Out of curiosity
The guild server is pretty dead
it's been dead since pet update were a lot of the active guys got fed up and quit
Wow.
So spots are open I suppose?
no
The guild owner didn't kick anyone and just accepts the fact no one has any desire to play.
The guild didnt' take the pet update well
Many guilds didn't
90% of the guilds didn't.
used to get weekly updates, weekly gp rankings, weekly gp leaderboard of all guilds.
My guild fell as well
I think we were ranked in the top 10 for ages ergo the lvl 41
How about now?
We lost a lot of really dedicated people over the update and the way criticism was handled post update
This is when it was lasted updated
Agreed
Wow.
criticism or attack to the developer of the game? ops
8.5mil speed statue, 6.8 mining, 7.2m chopping, 5.8mil crit getting close for those ๐
Well either way other than the main discord it killed most the guilds so whatever the updated did it wasn't healthy for the community.
i mean as long as guild as max upgrade, who cares right. xD
I agree, there was a lot of hostility from the playerbase, which was absolutely uncalled for. However, there were a lot of people who just wanted to voice their opinions, who got swept up in various ban waves and permanently removed from the discord
Hotair and his sensoring smh
I honestly believe Big Mac shouldn't have been banned
yeah, same
abuser should be banned right away. no excuses
For spitting at the developper's work
Either way the updated wasn't healthy for the games community.
increased player base tho
only old players viewed update as something hurtful
Temporally and then it dipped again.
everynew player i've talked to love companions
Most of the people I met when I said, "I'm neutral" called me a (Male bodypart) rider
People who abuse. but then cant accept consequence, are toxic. so yeah
I cannot agree with that. I was here too, and one of my good friends was banned without question, because he replied to someone who posted a meme
@autumn hollow maybe he did stuff and didnt want to admit to the truth.
bet his response to that meme wasnt " hey, u shouldnt post this here, its against the rules"

and then since you are his friend he tried to get you to get on his side
What obols are worth keeping and which ones should I just recycle ?
eff obol are good, mining,chopping should all be silver kept if possible for sampling, then pop/dice six obol
Anyway yh the guild is dead but it's a high level but no one gets removed anymore.
Base damage, defense, base stats can all be recycled then?
What about money obols?
last danger zone report was like 5 odd months ago
Oof.
Weak or sensible?
Can someone send the auto review link?
"oh, my friend has a lamborguini and i dont, i dont wanna drive anymore
I'd say sensible
i do remember that most of those players were already insatisfied with the game for over a year
Base damage, defense, base stats obols can all be recycled then?
What about money obols?
how does bubbles particle upgrade-cost scaling work?
W5 was a huge fiasco, even tho it gave amazing bonuses
Yeah, I got called ma'am on Lava's stream 
For the next month everyone thought I was female
thats why i always thought u were female
yeah
I thought you were female
yeah most people do
Had to scroll a long way for this one: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1096342142932238376
10th try at lv 22. fail but no destroy
Finally hit the 1k achievement 
Damage
XD
statisticaly u might never reset
my question was horribly formulated, i realize. the atom cost of upgrades seem to increase for the same bubbles. that scaling.
even if u click 10 thousand times
trash island starbook!
Too much clicking
They increase based on material cost, up to that listed maximum when material cost stops at 1b
trash garbage starbook seem to give a decent boost
ah, makes sense. thanks
i dont get whatcha mean?
? exactly that
statisticaly u might never reset the snail, even if u click 10 thousand times
why would it make me never reset just because i didnt upgrade it 10 time
at 30% reset chance
but didnt break it
everytime u fail an upgrade which is around what? 10% of sucess
11.8% reset chance btw right now
u are hit with a reset chance
u can fail toupgrade over a thousand times and never see a reset on your snail, even tho the odds of that happening in a spam of months is 0,00000000001%
ty for courage
same way as someone can start clicking nuggets with equinox today, and even after 1 yeah of clicking constantly, everyday for 10h, he might never get a 10M nugget
hm hm, too muich for my early morning brain
ive reset 19-20 like 3 times
its only hard to get 25
up to 24 its not the worse
23 is a sweet spot to stop
thereis barely any benefit in going for 25 right now
Good Morning Francis
Good Evening then! :3
there wasnt any real reason to attempt 25 also, 23 has always been good enough
yeah i just wanna get 22-23
haha only reason i got to 25 was because it was impossible to reach 90Q bits anyway, so i was like, why bother, just keep clicking
well at least you are there for when the snail is gonna have upgrades maybe
Also always better to get it to max whenever you can ;p
meh
prestige the snail
I didn't ban a single person for criticizing the update.
Hey good morning Hotair ๐
morning sleepy head. xD
Gm Hotair
38hr?, peasant number (no insult in here no worry)
I mean, I just went to bed because it was a good time to do so and wake at a decent hour. I could have gone longer lol
My sleeping schedule shouldn't be impacted thanks to that timing
Weird stuff for me. xD
So you've recovered?
Ish
better than a no
True
What happened
I don't feel great right now, but that's life
2 Walls of Texts incoming!
(Don't ban me immediatelly Hotair, thanks
Rash said it's fine what I'm doing)
So ban you later? Got it
W4 Crystal Farming
Hey guys 
Which Map? - Clammies
Clammies is a very flat map, which is perfect for DK Statues (Knightly Disciples) + Shockwave Slashes. Additionally, they drop Pearler Shells, which are used in various crafts and an Alchemy Vial
Clammies drop: Empty Oysters, Pearler Shells, Egg Statues, Golden Ribs, Mystery Upgrade Stones 2
Crystals Drop: Statues (which include Pecunia, Mutton, Egg), Potent Mana Potions, Galactic Leaves and Mystery Upgrade Stones 2, Golden Ribs
They can also drop Quest Items: Cloudsound Followers, Corporatube Subs
Some of the Materials can be used in Crafting: Pearler Shells -> Starfire Skilling Tools, Some Material Bags and Troll Armor Chestplate
Especially important when farming W4 Crystals: Pecunia Statues, Mutton Statues, Egg Statues and Galactic Leaves
Amount of Greenstacks realistically possible: 5
Info: With enough time the 3 Statues can also be Greenstacked
W5 Crystal Farming
Hey guys 
Which Map? - Tremor Wurms vs Citringes
Farming Tremor Wurms would be more efficient if your DK is set up correctly, but I would suggest anyone farming W5 Crystals to make a one hour test for themselves on each map and see where you get more Statues!
Tremor Wurms drop: Mongo Worm Slices, Kruk's Volcano Keys, Spiral Statues, Golden Grilled Cheese Nomwiches, Golden Hampters and Quotient EXP Potions
Crystals Drop: Statues (which include Battleaxe, Boat, Spiral), Golden Hampters, Quotient EXP Potions, Golden Grilled Cheese Nomwiches and Magma Leaves
They can also drop Quest Items: Cloudsound Follower and Corporatube Sub
Some of the Materials can be used in Crafting: Kruk Teeth and Kruk Cavities are used for the Divine Armor and Weapon Set
Golden Grilled Cheese Nomwiches and Golden Hampters are used for the Colossal Food Pouch
Especially Important when farming W5 Crystals: Battleaxe Statues, Boat Statues, Magma Leaves and Kruk Keys
Amount of Greenstacks realistically possible: 5
Info: With enough time the 3 Statues can also be Greenstacked
My advice is to add some formatting
Used in my Guide that Rash wants to Pin
How long did that take you to type
If you tell me how I will do it 
Typing that is not that hard if you already did 3 others. I would say the first took like 90 Minutes (and 30 extra minutes to figure out how I wanna do it)
Ok so a little a while
Is there a good way to farm the 20m worm slices for skull knuckler? Like should I just throw all 10 chars there for a day or two? Obviously vman canโt reach there to sample during trial. Should I give up a sample slot for my 2 ES?
So underlining some stuff and using Italics would be enough?
Bolding too
ikr 
Tremor Wurms drop: Mongo Worm Slices, Kruk's Volcano Keys, Spiral Statues, Golden Grilled Cheese Nomwiches, Golden Hampters and Quotient EXP Potions
Crystals Drop: Statues (which include Battleaxe, Boat, Spiral), Golden Hampters, Quotient EXP Potions, Golden Grilled Cheese Nomwiches and Magma Leaves
For example
As is, it's just a wall of text my eyes tell me to skip past
Formatting can lead the eye in rather than away
Oh honestly the Bolded Headliner was there, but it got cut off when I copied it from a DM
Rather than highlighting and copying an already sent message, either edit it and copy the input text or right click and select
I will quickly edit one of them and asked you then 
looking for people that have a p named char
Hey idleoners, how can i improve chances of getting artifacts?
More shipss
There's a pet ans a fractal bonus I believe
Shiny pet that is
Just pray honestly, theres little bonus here and there but they are not worthy
Other than that more hamsters and omni links
because 0.6% chance or 0.3 isnt much of a differencex D
but there's shiny pet, fractal bonus (not worthy to afk this long imo)
@quasi galleon is this better? 
Certainly better than it was
Last monster mat vial 
Pog
i have one Cactus Tier 5? 4?
waiting for the last tier to pop.
Tier 6. waiting for 7
yeah im pushing right after that
Hunting t7 weed now because my snail reset reset and i have nothing better to do
i mean i got it first chemical plant i clicked during kitsune, and i got the T6 cactus
just a waiting game, clicking nuggets and all
We're all hunting that high tier weed
*Clicking game
nah waiting game.
cause a game is supposed to be fun.
Waiting is fun cause i can do other stuff in the meanwhile
Trying to get like 10 t6 weeds then hunt for chem loops
let me burn those weeds
;3 Me first
Get last adept recipe from purgatory stalkers is hard to get
Are you sampling with vman? At citringes?
Thatโs insane if so
No i have most my chars that arent atom printing, printing it right now lol
Did the same with stilted seekers
Okay whew. Cuz I was gonna quit the game altogether if you got that far in a trial run
I can barely make it to Chizoar lol
9.3m W3 leaves. now imma have to do W2 leaves. cause yeah
W5 leaves, best place with dk ? where
wurms or like.... citringes
I got 55 portals on my last run.
I think if i did ONLY w5 maybe i could make it but
Speaking of trial runs, does anyone know if slow-running is actually allowed, or confirmed an exploit?
Nothing says you have to do W1 -> W2 -> W3, etc. You can go straight to W5 if you wanted.
that should be an exploit and punished to be honest.
Sheesh. I havenโt done a new run strictly for portals in a while but Iโm only at 34 ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Rashaken said they view it as an exploit (which means steps on doing it shouldn't be talked about here in the Discord)
Oh good, I am glad
WAIT, you can just tele to w5 without having done previous worlds?!
(Mostly because I did not want to do it)
How did I not know this? ALSO, been wondering how to get to rats and poops in trial run
Same way you do normally.. Go into town, click into the sewer ๐
the hell is a "slow run"?
An exploit, apparently.
An exploit we don't talk about 
Rule #4
Dang i always forget about rats and poops in my speed runs
Working on nails critters and soul vials now 
Souls are the bane of my experience in this game. Never have enough time irl to do long TD runs. So my soul gains are slow
I gotta up my TDs soon
Damn it, why did you remind me. I need to collect those too =/
i went to wave 160 yesterday on moon
Meta is what 8095 krakens and a poison dude
Im still at 100 on that one... I need to work on my towers more
looks at his 0/15 in shame
but at least 300M and my deathnote is totally eclipsed ๐
Scolibot says i have 67/69 schows 
i,ll pump those chow numbers up in no time, bunch of candy and all
hi xaya ๐
Hi Rac!
im actually suprised i have not more super chow. hm hm
Last semi huge wall of Text coming 
Crystal Farming
In the following you will find guides on Crystal Farming in different Worlds. I used various tests from Endgamers and myself to make sure everything in those guides is correct!
Special Thanks to @cerulean hemlock for helping me!
My Stats during the Tests: 22.51x drop rate and 3.94% / 1 in 25 Crystal Spawn rate
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Ayyy another ping ๐ฅณ
Original names ๐
can we actually Chow rift monsters? or was that just a lie or something
Wait, why is there -1 super chow? Is it impossible?
They all count toward the same rift monster?
Gotta schow that invisible doot mob and what, equinox?
Yep
and have to do on second BB right
Boops, yes
Unless Lava adds in some funky mechanic :3
More schows in w6 inbound 
I gotta check which ones im missing. I think i can candy the nutto now
Ye
Invisible doot mob? How?
@tall horizon I finished the Crystal Guides faster than expected. So now it's up to you for either Pinning it here or taking the links for the https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496 
time to get all those gains. lets see my cooking go up ๐
1.17E31/hr as of now.
Carefully and slowly
There is an invisible green mushroom by the portal. It respawns if you stay in the map. Active only!
It's a gmush on the doot map, you have to active afk it
and that count as a chow xD?
Oh, so that's what my purple bolt hits from my ES
dang. imagine activing that long for it
Took me about 2-3 hours with Nobisect on
oh its not that long then
So Schow would be 200-300 hours
I assume it has the same health (and therefore same multikill) as regular green mush?
First yes, second no
W2 has different Deathnote MK%
Ah, that's fair
i need to know how to maximize my character in lab for other use of gods
I meant by damage threshold, but thats good info
Same damage threshold yes
when do i start using stingers on my bubo
Respawn very important too
Ever wonder why we all hate gmush?
When you start doing active play!
if im always doinga ctive?
We don't hate Gmush. Lava does
Scoli you have a pin or something for lab minimum character use?
Hi Rac ๐
Sorry I was working on something 
And now I need to go ๐
This feels relatable
hi xaya ๐
it's fine 
byebye ๐
Tbf imagine the gmush watching a speedrunner killing a few of them, only to come back with full Chizoar gear a month later
I feel like its more of an AoE check, as long as you can kill the moles, you'll get him down eventually
True
It is still the same 6-person setup. If you have +1 range from Equinox, you can reach the Purple and Blue on the left at the same time. You need +8 range from Equinox and all other possible bonuses to reach the final orange jewel.
Indeed
Imagine Lava decides to add a few more nodes
That'd be complete evil 
oh okay i have 6 person. i had 7, i am freeeee
Wait, 6 can link to ALL the jewels now??
time to check wich monster i need to Schow
With equnox I suppose
yeah equinox lv like 7 i think mine is
oh found it
why does it says 65/13 on IT website for my Chow @paper sail
is it like theres 13 missing?
65 chow/13 superchow maybe?
Chow / SuperChow
there's gotta be more nodes in store at some point, otherwise this is an impossibility
Same character. 6 months apart.
You mean like the 70 blunder hills achievements?
Your Character and your Pictures both got better 
my BB reached 10T ๐
hi xaya ๐
maybe lava is just actually bad at math
With lots of help from you lol
If I don't have ruby cards unlocked, and I farm 400 trillion Gmush cards, do I automatically unlock ruby Gmush when I get that rift level done, or do I have to farm the difference between plat and ruby cards again?
The first
Nice, ty
Speaking of ruby cards, I just unlocked them in rift. Any hot tips for farming them? I saw ES is best and I've managed ~3k over 4 hours
ES is amazing for card. a trick tip, you can snapshot card drop chance, so enter the map with Card drop chance % and then switch to your drop rate regular card set
in two different Card set.
Also, is the construct mastery lvl 100 correct? +100 max level for talent library seems like it would put me over the maximum I have seen people with right now. I have 190 books, and 290 would have me at 315 with rift slug plus all the symbols of beyond.
i think upgrading your skill to lv 245 with the last class talent get you to 315?
It's +100 levels to the Construction Talent Book Library not the Talent Books
It is for the library itself, not book levels
and its for the library lvl in construct
Oh okay yeah I had a feeling I was smoking crack on that one
A lot (including me) thought it's +100 levels to talent books. Or were atleast hoping for that
will someone help me kill th 3th boss in w3 dung?
Why does it shows poop being a 0 in IT when i have 103M kill on my BB with it @paper sail ? (in the 65/14 section of the Chowed
books go brrr
Different poop
It's the second Poop in Dr D Map
That one is from the dr def map
Yep, we stack maps not enemies
You will need to kill the third boss for the Equinox Cloud Solo. And if it's solely for the Achievement, then I don't wanna use 10 minutes for a W3 Dungeon sorry 
Same
How many hours did u invest?
I still havent gotten my dummy starbook
306k/hr for the second nutto. dang xD
why don't you do it on spores?
cause i need nothing hours
sorry green mushroom*
Will you stop at 10k?
so you can stack these kills at the same time
For Fractal Island
i have no clue
how so? it's infinitly stacking isn't it?
Go to 20k for 100 star talent points 
10k hours was the nugget bonus from fractal?
There is this Fractal Island, which gives you different buffs for x amount of hours you did nothing. And you can use Candies on the Island, which is in W2. Candies also affect Shrines, therefore they need to move shrines to W2 Town
Should I go for 250B gmush after fractal? Or just fuck it, gmush only after w6
Yea
ooooooh
sorry I didn't know
Time to stop clicking
if w6 stamps required that much money 
Mine is 500 Water for a full rotation 
I got 2 better nuggets today
Meh, I'd wait to farm money on w6 anyways
just wait for w6
I think I'll stick to doing glass shards
And have 10-20k hours of candy stashed
Also need to go for higher breeding level 
I wish my Shrines were in W2. Candying Glass Shards sounds so good 
Game doesnt want to give me pets of 200k power anymore
Loomi's key Gstackable?
probably not
can % go higher or I take 3% every time
Go for way less%. Click at 0.1% - 0.3%
You can either click 1 time at 3% or ~200 times at 0.3%
ok fair enough ๐
we can pull off 0.3% artifacts, why not 
i dont remember but i pull chem with every DNA
ig u dont like him ur not giving him anything better than chiz armor honestly its suprising ur doing that much dmg with that setup
weekly reset, time to farm giants for that sweet sweet candy 
mine 14 hours until another free doot 
where's the other sandgiant to chow? ๐ฎ
There is an invisible green mushroom by the portal inside Doot's map. It respawns if you stay in the map. Active only!
Toolbox uses the wrong icon for it. It is Mummy's Memorial map
oh that's the one okay. i tought it was like uh... going to be represented as yeh
oh theres actual naming when hovering mouse on top of em haha
oh i havent schowed the rift. thats annoying
just gotta spend a day in the rift and candy the nutto 
a lil over 100k increase

(For future reference: Alt+printscreen will grab only your active window so you don't share your whole desktop)
snipping tool then copy the image and paste into discord 
shh we like yoinking info
bro trying hard for IS trophyl 
Someone said snipping tool?
What is the best skill bar for afk kills on my bubo? Blasphemy I know, but I am rifting
@toxic saddle you wanted to be notified for the other guides. Here is an overview of all of them. And they are also pinned in this Chat for easy access 

doesnt really matter at that point just put attack skills in
Oh okay so just cram all of them in?
same with CCs grinding but just remove the CC imo
You likely aren't getting any extra kills after the first couple of skills, but yeah it doesn't hurt anything to put them on while AFK
if you mean while you are on another char yes...doesnt really matter
I went from 20k to 76k so far by swapping from my CC build to this, thanks all!
Thank you 
The alt account finally has Mman
Level 127 jman is crazy lol
cantr do the equinox sheepie Chow right.
you can its just annoying
2min claim non stop ?
yep
You can. Just 1 min afk claims at a time ๐ฆ
ugh
What day? 
i gotta regular chow it soon also
Started that account 1 or 2 days after companions released to try to roll Doot as a meme. Clearly it isn't prioritized lol
youre e32 without all the schows? goddang
too busy active grinding DK beans 
prime setup
Too busy with literally anything else, yes
when i use it theres like a 5min timer.-.
wat
127 jman huh
And I got 0 printer resets on the first ever cast. The true Mman experience
I don't think the others went into detail, but the "no afk" feature of that map sets any afk amount to 2 mins.
1 min afks will give you 2 mins afk, though you can't do less than that (eg 59 seconds). It does speed it up quite a bit
oh thats nice actually ๐
working on w3 on here
Rude
It's not rude to call out the deranged gamers ๐
If you do it all in one sitting it is not great
Dayum I fear my candy is not gonna be enough to reach W5. I am on the road to rush W5 asap after getting dooted last night. I am only at Standstill Plains(W4) and got ~2 weeks of candy left. Gonna be rough, as I already need ~30hours for the current map and I fear it is going to get worse.
If you do like an hour a day it isnt awful
consider getting your characters a tad better so you need less candy 
Oof that hurt!
It's not like I haven't considered... its just that it already took the better half of today to get my pusher (ES) ready for W4 at all. I started out on ~4.5k Accuracy
Crazy smart, beautiful, amazing people ๐
1/3 done 
need that sweet sweet 0%
That plunderfarming already got me to another Statue breakpoint, during my Crystal farming. 22.51x 

Time to quit
More than the Island explorer pack 
Is there a way to speed up plunder kills besides void-walkers ability?
whats the plunder farm map of choice
More Crystal Chance
Citringes - I'm getting like 20k-22k a day. Never really bothered to check 100% (since I can't see decimals)
makes sense
Fastest is ojs. Wurms is pretty good for exp and keys too, just a bit slowrr
might to wurms to hit 450
I hit 500 on Ojs 
i mean my plunder count is only like 400 so lmao
Yeah 10k-100k is what I recommend. After that it's really just for some dr and the achievement
Also can work on oj vial if you haven't finished it
how you get decpite the vw trait for pirate flag?
ye thats the last one i need but im printing em so
this on 7 chars, should finish by end of day lol
What? You mean how you can get the Achievement, despite the Vman enhance?
If that's your question. Just respec your Vman
change preset 
Assuming they haven't leveled the Enhancement 
Does anyone have a strong enough VMan to speed run to Stilted Seekers? Starting at purple mushrooms of course, not a full speed run. If so, I am wondering how much damage one would need to be able to get there so I can print zaps
maybe if you do only w4 and ignore the rest
Yeah that is what I am saying
thought it was more of a lack of damage/mob respawn.. but with the vman trait youll never get much over 100 correct? so u always need to change preset or respec?
just print zaps on like 7 of your chars and youl be fine took me 1-2 days
youl never get over 100 with the enhancement
thanks
I got to 124 once 
yeah, need a lot of dmg
not that much, but a lot
500T might be enough
Since poop and rats drop them, is it better to farm corporate sub and instablab on ES? I was doing crystals on DK.
500t 
Yeah that is a bit out of reach for my 700m Vman
my SB dont even have 500t lol
If you have 500t on your Vman, how much do you have on your strongest char?
around 250Q with meme build
im but a humble early gamer
kinda wondering if i should crank up my pirate flag level for that sweet sweet exp while i do this
humble early game vman 
I went to max level on flag, but my SB also has 220T damage 
i mean i have 30t should be enough for max flag level lol
im not using any HP prays
Should be easily enough. Even with HP Prayers
50B sheet damage should be more than enough
cant u one shot flag giants?
O.O
whatre all the EXP cards 
I can 
Fly, ghost and moonmoon are the ones that matter ๐
Fly didnt see that one coming
Active exp is OP
๐ฎ
2 giants spawned lol
not using doublers maybe i should go double 
Compared to shit ass monster exp cards that get added to GT
Just play the game like a normal human being
7.07E32 from 1.57E31 ๐ only need like 5 W5 monster of each like 30-40M kills
Stop using web version
cooking speed boosted
dude, 2 days of boop kill, thought this was harder to 10M
obviously depends on how lucky you get with plunder mobs, and just how good the account is
I only get agout 100k a day if I get no plunder mobs - which is 100 days to GS it
1 normal kill gives me 3710 bonemeal, not a lot
what class do you boop?
SB if you want the greenstack, BB otherwise
ok 450 in no time 
Where crystal spawn
depending on class you'd want crystal spawn too
eh i thought about it
ES doesn't really need it, but the rest do

SB, but mostly hunting weekly giants for candy

Its not really wrong
Why treat ES like that
Its over
Wormhole boosts exp enough
I feel like damage would give you more overall than crystal chance
i can guarantee that crystal spawn chance on ES is insanely strong
Yeah, ES doesn't really need crystal spawn to level up. They get more exp from the active exp cards due to how portal mobs scale on exp
I can guarantee you that it doesnt do much for exp

Def an overstatement to say it's insanely strong. I would say worth to keep on but not doubled
#W6
dang about 5-6 levels on every meal upgrade!
missing some ladles to finish the 8 last meals.
3.65E33 now. from 1.57E31 ๐
ho yeah these guys gonna spit out exp
it's largely because of how the portal skill works. Doubling the active EXP cards multiplies with it, which results in big exp as long as you're killing portal mobs. If you do crystals instead, you lose out on a lot of exp on the doubled active card
You can have both, but doubling crystal isn't really worth it
Is that cooking speed on first cauldron_
?
Can anyone tell me how pirate flag works
kills can spawn plunderous mobs, with increased HP and increased EXP and drop reward
Slowly
Kill monster, sometimes spawn big monster, kill big monster to get coins from the other skill, 1 coin = 1 monster respawn
Flag duration end = lose all coins
yeah thats just the cooking speed of first cauldron
well first kitchen
And you maxed all foods except 8?
no i just had 5-6 uipgrade per mealk
average 52-54
in the lowest one im like 48-50
i honestly dont even know what my lvl max meal are xD
60 is capo
oh so im not that far ๐
My cooking speed in first cauldron is 6.3 e33
yeah getting 1m plunderous kills is insane lol ive killed like 200 so far since i started lol
time to just afk forever
I have been saving laddles for world 6 hoping theres going to be new foods
I have around 300k laddles atm
thats probably too much
Too much? Whats that?
you will realistically only need 100 ladles per plate lmao
I feel like using some for now wouldnt be that bad
so use em and greenstack em
Your speed is really low
You can't rly finish cooking yet so there is no too much
If you kill say, 200 portal mobs, which is admittedly a bit high. you receive the benefit of the portal buff 20100 times (1+2+3...+200)
20100 x 13.78% = 276978%
Crystal mobs are worth 30x exp, or 3000%
276978/3000 = 92.3
So the portal mobs per portal are worth about 92 crystal mobs
The portal mobs respawn the normal mobs so you'll be getting about 300 normal mob kills. At 1/25 crystal chance (again generous) if you're doubling both crystal cards this is 12 crystal mobs, or 48 accounting for choco chip
This means even if you focus entirely on crystal chance, portal mobs are worth twice the exp as crystal mobs on ES
Focusing on active exp doublers greatly increases this, too
Getting a few meals up would be great
100 laddles per plate? No bro, each level is gonna give more cooking speed, which then makes me need to use laddles on other foods continuing the cycle
See you in ~2 months
its going to be limited based on basically your cook speed. if you use 1 ladle on a lvl 1 plate your gonna get to lvl 40+
Yes and its gonna raise my cooking speed everywhere, which is gonna make me need to cycle each meal again
and again, because all meals rose, and again basically looping around until it takes houndreds of laddles for a level
i mean 100 ladle per new food he means like. to catch up high lvls meal you have currently
100 ladle probably will give you like lv 40 new meals or something near there
@bold quiver this is what a fact looks like btw, not just laughing and saying you guarantee something
i am farming eclipse and then my BB are going back cooking
itll catch you up to your current avg 100%
Yeah definitely, but he said that my 300k laddles "is too much", too much for what?= Like I dont understand
for actually using them like theres no reason to save for more
300k, i wouldnt say is too much to be honest
but greenstack em at this point.
if there is new meal, wich i think there will be.
There def is
anyone have the fishing print guide? other than what to put on? like what line to use for what fish is what i need
if youre "saving them" to use them later, but you could use them now...
Nah, greenstacking would take way too long, I aint doing that
im not saying use them all
300k is not nearly enough to max current meals
i mean my BB will be sitting on cooking in 300M kill
not even close 
But ye, if you cooking speed is still at E33 def use some
ty
actually might go put em at tremur. hm hm
Yeah boost some cooking speed meals,skill eff,dmg meal
Using them now is useless, I would rather wait a month for new potential meals, if there wont be new meals then Il use a chunk, but definitely not using them now, using this 300k
like 1000 on each of those type ones
Il be using some a little later, I wanna get my particle bonus up a little
@sleek ermine Use em like 1000 on speed cooking and then skill eff and then dmg, and well
you will be able to gain more from later ^^
Nah, not using 300k, but like 20-25k would increase you cooking speed for the future meals by a good amount prob
not saying to use them all
true i could boost my particle also. i forgot it existed
What's your speed now thubie?
Unless you're slacking on fluoride/Schows
I mean I am not against using some, I am just waiting a little, but I was just confused to why would 300k be too much
Do i need to put everyone in lab before i use print time skill on maestro?
Total is 8.5E40
Il use some today probably, Il see what kind of speeds I get, I was gonna resample and speedrun today after I candy the 1 billion skulls
im saying you wont need the full 300k to use on new plates and also to use on each plate thereafter. "too much" was just quick shorthand that youre still stuck on
If they aren't on bear, and you want the 2x print boost, then yes move em to lab before
yeah, dont use crystal spawn chance on ES to lvl up, not worth

People think in different terms, you said too much and thats what my brain was thinking about
Eh, yep, more micromanagement, yey.
almost done with W3 leaves, and 3 statue GS
168 GS, i can do bars quite quickly also,
Whats yours?
Levellling plates based on smallest amount of ladles per single level itself is tonnes of cooking speed
Yeah I know, but if there will be new meals (speculation) then the levels I get now would be quite redundant
If you're sat on any plates that is sub 1000 ladles to level then idk what to telll ya, especiallly with 300k ladles
i think your probably over thinking it
1.95E40 
Getting new meals up to par with sausage willl cost so little ladles that hording them just for that is sillly
Unless lava does some weird shit with new meals
If your sausage is currentlly llvl 50 then getting the next 3 (it'll just be 3 if any, don't kid yourself into thinking they'll be more) then 1 ladlle willl get each of those new plates to 40+ easily
Yeah but when I get them up to par, the cooking speed will rise insane quantitites, so the thousands of laddles I would not use now would give me slightly more levels later
the only reason I'd want to wait rn would be with w6 around the corner, that's 10+ more super chows imminent, which will more than double the effectiveness of your ladles
Getting 3 new meals to 30 will be so nice
Diamond chef+fluoride will just zoom the speed
Hopefully we get bit bonuses early w6
Was fluoride the voidman talent?
90 plat levels would be 2.7x cooking from vman talent too
what lvl shoudl i aim at diamond chef?
So I can get a few fluoride levels
Nono, the atom
flouride is atom chef
There's waiting while everything is currently hard to level up, and there's hording without cause
its lv 158, should i boost it up 50 atom click just a good one?
I'd say getting it to 1500ish is pretty nice
@fierce oracle how many lvl should i pump into Diamond chef bubble? i can easy pump in 50 atom click in it ^^
If 1 days worth of ladles get you 5+ plate levels still then you've stilll got tonnes of wiggle room
oh sry for the retag
Dw
gimme that superbit
what is the X on DC bubble at 1500?
Sakori groundhog day funfact: Voidman buff is actually weaker than the skill text suggests. the buff it provides is 100x lower than suggested. Lava has confirmed it's correct, tho
It's not really opinion that the vman skill is the single largest source of cooking speed
so it's just a text issue
Well yes I am hoarding, I could get some bonuses, there are more issues than that for me personally. Theres so much I could do actively, but I have limited time in my free time a day and leveling up plates a lot would take a chunk of time I could use for something else. Leveling plates is not the most fun stuff.
Much lower, but still far stronger
The bubble shows 1.3x, but it rounds, and 1.29 to 1.299 does increase a lot of cooking speed with this bubble
You can check the actual bonus on IE
The longer you horde ladles the longer it takes to burn through said ladles
When hovering the bubble
1.28x at 158, 1.29x at 1500
You're actuallly just making your own dilemma harder by not doing it
is it even good to go that many lvl just for a 0.01x?
Yes and no :)
95% chef is 247, but if you want to get 95% of the possible effect, as it's self multiplying per plate, you nee 3323 lol
This is how much it gives me at 1500
1.28x^57 = 1,291,124x
1.29x^57 = 2,011,932x
It's like procrastinating cleaning your house. The longer you leave it, the llonger it takes to do and the worse it is to get around to
oh dang okay
Gimme
imma boost it to 250 for a starter
Clleaning a room every 3 or 4 days means each clean takes like 5mins to do
Quite minimal difference tbh, its not like my plates are level 30 or something
imma pump it a few lvl until atom gain allows me to
I think its my only bubble that received larry's blessing
Similarly, burning through a few days of ladles is a few minutes of switching kitchens around. Burning through 300k is an hour or 2 ๐
got 24 printer goes Brrr trigger week ago, so i managed to hit 900k atoms, now im back down to like 280k
but nowadays i get 1-2 trigger :9
Some days all I manage to do is log onto characters once or twice, its not like my meals are the most important thing to do right now
1.299x^57 = 2,990,347x
1.299x^60 = 6,554,643x
3 w6 meals are gonna more than double our diamond chef bonus
Just from one bonus
the w6 superchows should ~triple our superchow bonus
and going from 20 to 30 flouride should 100x our flouride bonus
assuming plate level 30, we get a double from chef, 2.7x from vman, and ~1.72x from void chef
20-30 100x flouride yeah from what Nerfus posted yesterday
for a total of x10 cooking speed
Is anyone close to the 10 more levels for atoms in gaming? I havent been too active
People have it
So what I'm hearing is if you let lava think about it for more than a few minutes, we're definitely not getting more plates
Like maybe 5 people
Pancake has it
My snail is 17 only, my gaming has been quite unlucky
Pretty sure anyway
that reminds me <click> yay 16 snail
Yeah, fluoride 30 with 57 meals to 60 would do basically the same
Currently 18, hard coping for that 20 to finally get out of this cycle
if you get 20, you basically have 21
once W3 is done, im going to be afking overnight at tremur with Bubo for money gain. to boost some stamps up
thinking of using candy for gmush, or gstacking. hm
Gstacking i guess would be wiser
fwiw DK produces more money at wurms - but if you need the water it's still worth doing bubo
@tacit tulip oh really? didnt know ๐ฎ
yeah, his orb shenanigans get so high there that he outpaces it
it might not be true in w6, depends how the last map is laid out
it might also not be true if one candy bleach but not oak :)) just a reminder
Last map on world 6, platforms transform based on your character ๐คก
or am i wrong?
candied up mainstat might make bubo generate more yeah
and it still made like 30% less
orb too op 
candied mainstat? whut
people have started candying the basic logs to spam the alchemy bubble
I have been thinking about doing that too xD
hm
i wonder how much you can store in your inventory before its full
or you need ram for it i guess?
yeah needs ram
ram+rucksack
scrwe that.
unless u dont value ur time
sad stuff
you can't use pepsi prayer cauyse of the low cap ruins you
outside of card what i can do to raise my drop rate try to make my yumyum title and the fuschimacia dont want to drop
i dont have ram.
yeah not really possible without ram
All w6 zones are specifically tailored to be bad for every class, causing socks to still be the best source of money
Maybe all world 6 territories start with 1 monster, and we need to farm more monsters and upgrade each area
farm as in the new skill
is there linking unlinking limit for the gods
Each DK skull adds 3 mobs to a zone but they all start with 1
Probably still wouldn't be hard to get enough mobs to make it not suck tbh
So much damage and MK bonus exists, I bet even 1 mob in a zone would be easily millions of afk kills per hour
You have 2 full unlinks that you can use weekly, click the unlink button on a god profile to see your timer at the bottom
So make sure you unlink everyone you want to at the same time
every map is just w2 sand giants but with more platforms and less mobs
Are deathnote bonuses per tier or flat? I have been starting to doubt it
per tier
Per tier
but only for the world you're in
hello guys, i just got w5, is putting all my characters in divinity still the best choice?
I should have farmed the 1 billion skulls earlier
so w1 bonuses don't apply to world 2
Yes divinity is huge
You should've
After you reach the one where you give xp to each character you skyrocket nicely
knocking it out just before w6 certainly isn't a bad choice
The upside is that if you have doot then black skulling is pretty easy
icannot see any timer . where is it actually
Shove 8 people on a zone, finish every zone in under a day
Yeah I have doot
it's based on your personal weekly reset. You can see that in the guild weekly challenges
do i have 2 unlinking or 2 linking option
w4/5 a bit of a bitch since your 8+m average up to w3 rapidly drops to 2-4
Is it worth buying some of these xp divinity boosters from the gem shop?
Worth is subjective, I have all of them because I have money
Only if you've got people on the altar
select all you want to do at the same time
There are other things that are better
The gem shop stuff doesn't affect tranqi (I think)
level 1 gaming sprinkler and the sailing chest space are probably more valuable, I'd say
Okay then i will get those first
thanks
I have had all my characters in the lab recently to get lab and divinity lvls. I was going to get everyone to lvl 40 divinity so they could all get to tranqi. I thought it would just be more efficient. Am i actually stabbing myself in the foot?
how much time should i expect having to wait to unlock bear?
i also figured by the time i get it w6 will be out and w5 will get a bit easier.
that's the hope - plus as you own doot, if a new good gets activated you'll benefit from that greatly
hard to quantify as w5 is quite RNG. you could get it today, it could be next week...
it could be months away!!! Yay!!!
Okay il just leave the 9 chars in divinity and chill for a while then thanks
months is at least very unlikely ๐
If you want to remove the RNG from it as much as possible, each time you offer to a god the left/right choices can change. People tend to click left until they see 100% on the right, then save up for the right
yeah months is more of a gaming thing
im assuming u have doot, shouldnt you unlink everyone except nobi?
I saw someone say that is more expensive.
or any reason to keep em linked?
I don't have doot
ohhh i see
Il keep that in mind thanks
technically more expensive but you don't wanna be the guy who fails 50% chance 10x in a row
does anyone have a tier list for sailing captains ?
that would be my luck lol... ๐ข
You generally want someone on purrmepp (minor bonus needs a link even with doot). A lot of people also use arctis too because idleon efficiency can struggle to work right with doot, and you want lab to show as active without it
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
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Speed/loot (a mix on one captain is great)
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Chest/Artifact
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Cloud
slay ty
what is scaled skill efficiency that nobisect gives you as a bonus?
lmao
the amount it gives you is scaled based on what you have. The more eff a character has, the less nobisect gives them.
interesting....
it's kinda a catch up mechanic. Even at minimum amount it gives 5 eff per level which is nothing to scoff at
pain
is it enough to only have one char linked to puremepp with doot or shpuld you link more chars to it?
i think you can only link one
You can only have one liunked to purr - it's a rule of the god
Doot + All Characters on purrmep would be op
I'm trying to push toward level 500's and ive got like 11.5x xp after moving all my xp items onto the char and switching my cards to xp. Mongos still feel pretty slow now that ive gotten to like 450, anyone got a list of multiplier sources I can cross check?
the reasons cloud captains suck are:
- Cloud islands are very easy to unlock assuming you have the speed (Speed>cloud)
- There's no minimum time to sail to a cloud, so if it takes 10 mins, it'll do it in 10 mins (making speed good for this)
- to make a captain useful you have to level them up. Clouds do not grant captain exp so you have to send the cloud captain to normal islands first. This provides no benefits to your normal island stuff (which gives you less loot, which means less boat upgrades etc)
Grind TIme Alchemy Bubble in the Yellow Cauldron is your biggest XP Multiplier - The other would be XP while Active Cards
oooo i see thank you so much
the active exp cards don't show up on your expo multiplier but do work
Ah okay. I already have the card preset with those rubied
so if you're on 10x exp, and have 100% active exp, that's 20x exp
okay, so the cards are a top-level multi thats good
anything else that top-level multiplicative other than whats already been mentioned?
but yeah, if you want to get to 500 currently, you need grind time
12k Grind time no pack 
even with 100x exp, and the active exp cards, it can take about a week for the slow classes to get to 500
with w6 so close, you might be better off focusing on other things than 500
If I have the perk that means my active bubbles always work
does equipping them do anything extra or no?
kewl. so its only minor link to gods i need to worry about
cause the effect is major bonus only, correct?
so (being the sad whale I am
) if I have doot I set everyone to purrmep link?
purrmepp only allows one link ๐
Do your highest div lvl char
pick your highest divinity level for that
the reason doot doesn't give the minor bonus is exactly because of that. Purr can only give the bonus once, and who it gives isn't pre-determined
so you gotta set one manually
Lava probably could have been clever and made it check what the highest level was, and give minor based on that, but it's not exactly backbreaking to set it yourself
do i get bear then catch up on everything or get goat cuz i rlly want to carch up on other stuff but i know lab i super op so having goat is op
It's entirely up to you, goat is the best choice overall to get your account healthy though
I had a decent lab when w5 came out so did take a break once I had bear
So i've got this as my card layout for a bit of a balance between xp/dr/crystals
do while active and +xp just add to be +96% total?
or is one of them the good one and the other isnt?
while active is a separate multiplier, +exp is additive to your class exp stat
okay so while active is the top level multi and +xp is kinda bad
thanks ๐
dont have any of the card boosting chips yet
so thats kinda tragic
make sure to have you w6 bubbles all set up ๐

that's kinda bonkers ๐
000000000000000000000000000000000000000
i dont have a single cog with a % bonus of any kind more than 65%
need 1 archer and 1 mage for doot
any wiling to help pls?
server: cookie 18
Well the directional bonuses are hard capped at 65% no matter what. The non directional exp % scales with your con levels
whose? because my babies are in cog hell and my DK is on the board
its like level 215 vs 145
The highest con level on your account
Even at higher levels it can be pretty tough to get cogs like that though. I've been clicking cogs for nearly 2 hours this session and thats the first really good cog I've seen
oh yeah, ur supposed to do sessions not just check every 10 hrs
lol 52 candy to greenstack gold. Probably shouldn't have been so lazy about that
52 Precious Candies 
One last question. Does linking to an already infinite star sign give you 2x that star sign?
no, but a doubler will double a linked one
With the Starsign Doubler Lab Chip, yes
aint got one of those yet either 
so until i do, don't link to inf signs, gotcha
been a while, 78 days
i need to resample my wood
resampled mining up to like 4m/hr, havent redone wood yet
at this point I'm just waiting until w6
just kept staying content with my hourly bubble ones and kept saying...ill resample after the next big bonus...like 15 bonuses later
need to prog atoms though, so its time
Done sampling until W8 
I've been just breaking even on salts, but im starting to struggle
liieeeesss
so I can't keep putting it off, yet here I am not resampling
you're gonna resample day 1 w6, watch ๐
w8 is when the first player will overtake contract
at which point he'll immediately resample and win again
I refuse 
Youve got the doot for it 
even with doot I cant pass you lol
you're better at the game than I am, or just more insane 
Insanity can only get me so far though
We're entering the era of candy. Hourly clicks are a thing of the past
Thats just what sane people want you to think
190 stacks 
Anyone with a comfy candy stack can undermine months of hourly clicks now 
however, those who did months of hourly clicks probably also have candy
Makes me curious what the new meta will become in w6 lol
Meta in W6 is going to be whoever exploited liquid gets the best samples because liquid will become the bubble 1 bottleneck
Candy is life 
shame there's not an easy way to detect that. It can sometimes be really obvious (high decant low alchemy level) but it's not obvious at a glance
The obvious ones are the problem though
Anyone with a decant that is even somewhat believable isnt going to be able to push that much further than most people
You just know they're gonna be smug about it too "just level this it's easy"
"oh I did my 50kGt in a month"
same sorta thing
how big multipliers comin in w6 hmmm?
No multipliers at all
You can trust me on that. My dad is friends with lava and he said so 
all gains in w6 will work like kpk, added on the end ๐
Eff? +10 on the end
Damage? +10
days on using gold clock? +10
hmm 300 candy for dementia. Think I'll stop there

