#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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is the current book in w2 boss shop trolling?
Yeah people at damage cap are at 30m
Ive seen at least one screenshot of 30m
does droprate affect statue drops from skilling also?
Only while afk
how do you even get your fighting afk gain rate this high
epic
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Sorry, Contract. We're no longer "known associates"
I'll just wait for another 65 years until I get it after like 100 quid failed to roll it lol
Just damage cap wurms 
๐ซก Yes!
Doot is only a 35% difference in afk gains 
im missing the 4% afk from rings in that, 2% from ruby smoulderin plateu cardset and a few % from more div levels/big p
can probs get to 380%
if i one day refreshes your bot, and a certain green bubble is in the bubble section, i will start a riot 
you remember who posted the 30m? i wanna see their afk gains
Same >:3
Which green bubble 
Ain't happening
ah
A picture speaks a thousand words 
That's a Quick Slap if I've ever seen one
got my first one 
you are an important ally to The Church of Contract
Ayy!
what was your exp/hr?
my QS is only clicked every few hours now 
๐ If Scoli diagree's we can always place him in permanent internship
1.78k
Not bad
Heres some fun math I did for what I would be at if I did a respawn snap shot and had doot
atommed to like 8900, then clicked from there
was that on es or non es?
Dont even need damage cap for 30m 
bubo

that is why we worship Contract
Indeed
But who does Contract worship?
im currently at 1.5k and need the last 2 div sparkle upgrades
and 132 on bubo
alvin
I just like con 
Constuction is the best
Construction is alright
I will now make a statement that will make you upset:
I have never once con obol snapshotted and dont even own any cons obols 
con shmon is my stance on that
equinox made con much less important, and 2bb reigns supreme
The best way to fit in this chat is to include
in half the messages you send

The heathens are running rampant right now
just have 2 BBs and 2 DKs
๐ REMOVE CON OBOLS FROM SLAB
aside from vials/green stacks, is there a guide to the ~total~ amount of materials needed to outfit your full 10 characters anywhere? like are we talking a few hundred thousand dreadlo bars, millions?
which dupe are u missing
Doesn't look too good for you. Seems like you don't belong in here 
i have no fear, because i know my faith will persevere 
Best way
But hey, I chat too much 
No 2nd SB for me. 4 warrior gang is the superior setup
SB
I hope to god he adds the Archer elite first without adding 11th char slot
I hope you get punished in w6 
Thats really the only possible downside though
My father just called me to say, "I'll be back"
As far as usefulness right now the 3/3/3/1 setup is kinda shit imo
I would prefer 4 warrior/4 mage/2 vman over 2nd SB
๐คฃ Terminator is the core of his dad jokes
Just to be clear I mean any one of those options not that as an account setup lol
yeah i agree, 4 warriors is best right now, im just sad i didnt take it
You heard it here first, folks. Contract says 0 archers
If there was a class to take none of it would be archers
too late I messed up and now have 10 vman
the ultimate anti QS
1 DK, 8 bb's and a vman is statistically the optimal set up
Better than 2 SB 

I feel like you gotta at least do 2/2/6
You'll get plenty of ladles with 6. Get the big vman procs and some con at least
Final 2 is
Vman
Perma beginner
No mages for log prints at all?
you're right, we need a mage or 2 for particles to get 30 flouride
Or even Bubo for liquid lmao
and at that point we might as well grab an archer or 2 for dreadlo bar vial for more cooking speed
damn we're back at 3/3/3/1
All the materials in the world won't do you any good with 10 liquid per hour

Eh just do 1 BM and you can candy gmush on him for bars and not be absolutely miserable with trapping
SB is unnecessary 
You dont need DR for gmush
Just wait for new characters, ez
okay one of each and 3 dupe bb's
Go 2/2 on warriors for the con but have the 2nd DK cook
His tab 1 efficiency still counts
Need 2SB for more bugs 
classbending the DK
It is unfortunate that most of the bug bubbles are crappy ๐ฆ Poor balancing job
i was comparing my 2 bb's today and one of my bb's was missing 10m efficiency even while identical, turns out it was just quests completed
didnt even consider how impactful that star talent is
I barely do quests 
Now go do picnic stowaway on both of them every day for max ladle gain 
i need lava to put some fomo afk chains in shop
And fomo dr chains
thats one of my biggest losses compared to others, im missing 6% afk gains from keychains alone
Only 6%? Lucky
i got two 8%'ers
Most people dont have max afk chains even if they got the gemshop ones
The afk ones were random values lol
My best are a 5% and 4% for 9% total, out of 20% possible. I'm missing 11
My best set is a 10 and a 6
Wait they could go to 11? Shit 9/22 then, missing 13
The event ones could go to 12
Wait, do the picnic quests stack? If you repeat them?
Normal ones cap at 10
no
u gotta do them every day if u want them as completed haha
but i meant quest diff as in one of my bb's was missing like 140 quests
completed like 100 today on him
Ah, there it goes my hope for bigger easy gains ๐คฃ
If picnic stowaway stacked that would be so tedious lol
5 and 4 afk chains 
starting to feel like i got lucky with two 8%'s
Kinda yes kinda no
Haven't been active all day ๐
Admittedly the chance of getting an 8 isnt TOO terrible although it does kinda suck
The main reason most people dont have good keychains is because they dont do dungeons consistently
Which to be fair I agree that dungeons arent very fun
But I forced myself to run them every week until I got chains I was happy with 
11 per week is insane lol
I finally unlocked funguy meadows now to sacrifice my sanity by letting captain do 6 hour travels 
I've maybe bought 100 total
90% of my gripe towards them is bigger party = better chances.
People join then quit, or join and they are on a diff server.
i was actually kinda surprised at that, i do my 1 weekly dungeon and that's it, and im rank 9 on the leaderboards for dungeon credits
seems like most people dont even do their weekly happy hour
I don't think that's true 
How is a bigger party better chances lol
You get dungeon drop rate, but to my knowledge it has 0 impact on your rolls at the end. Most of the time, groups over 5 people fail to finish all bosses so it is a net loss
I won't join 10 man groups, fuck that
I thought this was obvious? But uhhh If the pot to summon the boss required more items and matched the players, it would be the same. But even if you max your Dungeon DR you can sometimes get unlucky and not get the the final boss. And it takes a lot of work to get to the point of solo the final boss... hence more people = better chances/drops.
Or maybe I'm missing something....
i can pretty consistently solo carry since the attack speed / 1 mana thing was added, even in 10 mans
Yeah dungeons are easier than they have ever been before
The enemy's HP scales WAYYYYYY harder than the drop rate does. If you have any deadweights, it can kill your run
I will 100% solo carry 9 afk players every single time
Its not killing the mobs thats the problem. Its the chances that you dont get all the items to summon
Its impossible to lose dungeons nowadays
It is, though. If you have deadweight or afk players that aren't dropping materials, you just insta-lose.
Having more people attack to increase the rate of getting that last item for the 3rd boss is super nice
Tbh I just have 2 people I just run 1 happy hour with a week ezpz
i used to struggle sometimes with the blue eye because i'd clear all mobs as quick as possible, but now i slow it down and make sure i get a few dr rng items before clearing the upper mobs
Big disagree lmao
The dungeon doesnt scale on players, so it doesnt do anything if you have afkers. But yes I agree... afkers is annoying.
...yes it does?
The boss gets mega tanky if you have a few scrubs
I've been told numerous times it doesnt
Oh killing the boss might. But thats not even a hard part of the dungeon
To me the main problems is getting a group together to go, vs if you dont want to do that and solo, I have often found myself stuck on the 3rd boss looking for the final ingredient. chopping logs.
since the dungeon update, there's only been 1 time where i havent full cleared with a pug
its veeeery consistent now
Sounds like you're rushing kills without picking up Drop Chance RNG items
Yeah I dont see how groups still lose lol
Could be
Like if you made this claim a few months ago that would be one thing
I must be doing something wrong
I still lose plenty of runs with groups over 3-5 players
do you lose when you have horn?
its moreso sometimes theyre just weird ass times
I have lost with Horn from people not dropping items, yes
Is horn still the meta?
I thought it was
horn is old meta, double horn is new meta 
Even without horn you get so much dps from the attack speed trait as well as even more free items at the start
If I could just run HH solo, I would lol
the attack speed feels so good on DK in dungeon 
Yeah DK was already the best dungeon class by a very large margin and then he got a talent literally built to be better on him than anyone else lol
the stardew drop is great
Maybe that's the secret. I haven't been using the attack speed r50 trait in w1 dungeons
+70% dmg at full mana, and you're always full cos ur perma at 1
Its hilariously over powered
its goated
Not using abilities doesnt matter because of your attack speed with basic attack shockwaves
call me behind ._.
hey behind
I'd do bob but scoli bot must be placated
actually stamps is my only limiting factor for next tier, lets do some bob
mmmmhm that feels good
I havent checked scolibot in a while.... prolly should
Not that in gonna go fix anything on it.

what's the link for that?
Has anyone seen GriffyBit's vid when he deposited his Onyx Kachow statues? I swear he just dropped them all in after it was onyx and didn't even try to min max.... is that the strat? you just ignore the alchemy bubble and just drop everything in at a time? ๐ ๐
the alch bubble isnt bugged anymore
I didn't know it was bugged - what was it doing?
Boys... i just found my third doot
Shame
Hand one over...
Did Auto IE get an update?
Look at this shit
it would only apply the first level you deposited bonus percentage for the whole deposit, which is why ppl would split stack to make the most use of the bubble gains
now you dont have to and can just mass deposit
omegalul
๐ฎ game changing
2 p2w doots this man pulled doot and kept pulling instead of saving green crystals for next rotations 
Rich People 
And lastly, I don't think there will ever be a new rotation tbh
Its a good payday so itll come eventually 
think it was too controversial and heโll scrap a whole mechanic he worked on?
I really hope so
And if he were to move rotations, people without doot would be furious
I dont think trading will ever come but collection 2 hell yeah
I think it was a good idea, the problem was the separate, unobtainable without $$, premium currency.
So the "good" idea was fundamentally flawed, which means it was a bad idea
If it was even just gems to roll, no problemo
Itโs possible to recognize the good out of a bad thing.
otherwise itโs called โthrowing the baby out with the bath waterโ
Constantly
usually 1-2 updates every week
Looking real pretty ๐
I havent used it in a while and now it looks nice
im not sure what you mean by that, i just know that i wouldve loved for green gems to be earnable somehow
so if im reading this right, the snapshot for sampling only happens when i open alch?
my impression was that you were saying it was all a bad idea because one component sucked.
We agree that if green gems were earnable (maybe not at the pace blue gems are) it would have felt better
Great
I just finished sampling with 4 chars
if you cant be bothered, its not a huge gain lol
And forgot if i needed to open alch tab or not LOL
Nah I'll do them again, any gains is good gains
Sure, here's my paypal-
The only sample ive bothered to update in a month
Should i still use royal sampler for vman speedrun?
Cuz the -skillxp is additive right?
with how much of a pain it is to equip everything to max samples, i would be willing to drop cash for the convenience
(companions round 2 idea?!)
it is indeed additive
(im joking, donโt kill me)
i dont have it on, but its fine if you want it
how would skill exp factor into a speed run anyway?
im assuming for skilling reasons later
I mean the sampling %
if you cant hit 90% without, always use on everyone
Im at 90% without it but i cant be bothered to take it off and resample
The kattlekruk gind ugh
Doot V2: gain the ability to toggle which bubbles auto upgrade with printer rotations.
Donโt think Iโll ever take off royal sampler because i just donโt feel like unequiping it 
Doot v2 reduce 3d printer sample rate by 66%
getting 1050m snakeskins is fun stuff.
(Prints faster)
Oh my friend youre just getting started
I'm sure lava will inevitably add an all prayers give no curse thing, aside from the gaming one
oh lol i thought you meant 90% sample went down to 66% lol
I just want to start not worrying about statues
Gotta get 23 or 27 max vials whatever it is for it to hit 100%
27
What affects that?
Monster mats arent so bad other than like, citringes, tilted seekers and maybe choccies
is it exponential affect? or added and then multiplied to the base effect?
additive, so 5 vials is 10%
it dosent work
does the double afk claim chance only do double xp or also double time?
just exp
it clears at daily reset
Once per day, at 0:00:00
the biggie hours card
xp only
holy shit i wish
At what point does skinny 0 cal become 100%
For some reason I thought it was both but honestly now that I think about it... def just xp lol
closest to that is omniphau diety.
27 maxed vials, including itself
thanks
someone is depositing his POW statues
Only when im at 100%
of course ๐
I have not deposited a single crit damage statue from the onyx quest line 
gotta wait until you've onyxed w6 statues now
54 vials now
wait until Lava adds more vials to get to 200%
save 20k of every statue, especially power, for the onyx statue quest.
That was the plan 
Somewhat on topic, are power statues just harder to get than the other early game statues? I've got 3x as many speed statues.
Too late, already have them al onyxed
Whats the last one?
next we find out you can farm those in W6 ๐
blobs
Oh or do u mean to get kapow statues?
You best then โค๏ธ
I have another question, tho related to gaming. I'm now at the point im getting single digits of red every full harvest, but i lost my sense of progress now, what am i going for in gaming that is actually achievable?
More snail/nugget are pretty much your main factors now
Sounds about right, 2.5 - 3x rarer
sorry, i mistook you for someone who was new looking to max statue deposits over onyx-ing them. was trying to save you some time! lol
ahhh okay, thanks <3
Roger that, thanks. Just gotta keep sending the DK back at it.
is rule of thumb to snail upgrade at 15% downgrade failure chance?
damn, that fucking sucks though
im basically waiting for a chance to get better gain
make sure you have your acheivements maxed out as another option
I'm not your man for snail advice. I am a bad rng magnet
I'm stalled on 2k nugget chance rn. It sucks. I can't even get to snail. >_>
iโve failed lv 10 snail 15 times with 15%. Iโm right there with you and started to think i was doing something wrong
overall snail needs little encouragement
below like, 15, most people suggest more or less full yolo on snail
i only encouraged at lv14
iโve got doot, but otherwise thatโs where my luck ends.
Iโm at 14 now. Iโm super nervous on 15
I encouraged at 14 the second time - cause first time I got to 14 it reset in 1 go
then it took me 3 months to get back to 14
yah, failing at 14 is painful
Youโre stuck farming nug upgrades until youโre back up to 14 if you fail. and i HATE the nug farm
is there a recommended secondary stat for vman when fighting?
none for fighting. all are important for skilling and left / right hand.
42 minutes till I do spike trap surprise
I was also wondering if those tiers meant that, whenever I break through them, then i should go and retake samples for that specific skill?
rule of thumb iโve heard is retake samples when theyโre 2x your previous sample (especially if you have sailing artifact that affects printer output per day)
probably each time you pass a tier is too often
At your point you could probably resample every week. Later it takes more than 20 Bubble levels to get a good increase in samples
Is it expected that lava will nerf tremor worms when w6 comes out?
nerf what about them?
1-2 weeks at that point. Monthly at worst
and how can i know if they are going to be x2 my previous without taking a sample and breaking the daily artifact streak?
Their damage
why would he nerf that
what damage? tremor worms do damage? ๐ค
look at the afk window and multiply the resource by the percentage of your printer sample %
some of the w5 mobs stats will get nerfed, idk by how much tho
Because they deal a bazillion and Iโve never been around for a world release so I wouldnโt know what gets changed to adapt for it
Need to flex my only LB Spot
- It finally updated
if you stack maxed prayers with -def they can still even hurt for end gamers
So if you have 90% printer and 1bn logs, then youโll get 800 million log sample
whats dis
Also it would be kinda silly if they end up doing more damage than w6 mobs
why not 900M?
it would be 900m and iโm dumb sorry
how big was your multi in the end?
The Leaderboard on IdleOn Toolbox - To be exact the Highest Nugget Leaderboard
Let me check it was 18k+ nugs clicked
Scoli Review Bot >>>>>> idleon toolbox >>>> idleonefficiency
630m okay, i hope i dont reach that haha
The plea of a insane woman
tbh never have I ever imagined that there can be a review bot that can do what Scoli's does. It's truly amazing ๐ฅน
Yeah I got an estimate from EternallyFrumheldt and 75% of people would have gotten an upgrade at 12k ๐
xayayah, do you have superbit for +10 atom level?
I only discovered it a few days ago and my progress is skyrocketing
My lvl 15 Snail is preventing me from getting it 
youโve got 170 MILLION NUGGET and lv 15 SNAIL?โ
your luck went all-in on one spot!
i also went insane from nugs
Nugget and Snail have nothing to do with each other ๐
My Goal pre W6 was a 100m nug. Now it's 1m Plunders and maybe I will get it pre W6 (unlikely tho)
Well, at least lv 15 โ> 16 snail is easier than 170MM to 340MM nugget
fed up of now having this done (+greenstack) so time for some 20min BM traps
Same. But whats your nug at now lol
1B nugget time
Oh i see 170m
Well I reset on 19, 17 like four times, alot on 16 and well 15 idk
Pure pain. Iโm sorry for your loss.
I keep resetting down to mf snail 15 too tho so im hunting t7's until my snail gets back up
Last Snail reset was yesterday from 17 -> 15 
Now I don't look at the gaming screen anymore till I used all my Gold Stopwatches in W6 
I'm still working on getting my last evolution for gaming xD. I got super lucky with nugs at the start but now its slowed down :/
wonder if we'll see a snail buff in w6
im glad that lava said w6 will have almost nothing that can be gained from stopwatches
maybe something like encouragement becomes permanent

everyone will just be stopwatching for the bubbles, which im fine with
T7 when
Is there any info on what levels we unlock the next evolutions?
you know this is my phobia
its a superbit
Ah so when i go from green to red :P
Oh.
What is isotope discovery
+10 max level to atoms
huge upgrade
Man I got a long ways to go :/
depending on my next nugget, i might be able to go for it
I might pinchy u
I trade my nug for a lvl 20 snail ๐
are you still on ur ~60mil one?
ye 68m
I wish pong was a bit smoother :/
I'll trade my account for one of your chars ๐ฅบ
I wouldn't even trade your old account for one of my chars 

;3 I'm f2p and didn't use steam yk
Does buying auto loot include f2p?
Like if someone buys auto loot are they no longer f2p (according to the community)
Youre basically whaling if you get autoloot
I don't have autoloot
Could always Google play rewards it, if that thing is still around.
You're a madlad.
Whale in other games to be a purist in idleon. Smart
Or I guess you could do surveys or whatever
People call me a... what's that thing again?
Oh yeah, a
Hypermanic who's hell-bent on trying to make themselve suffer and type a guide, slowly descending to the depths of the rabbit hole of Idleon, never to climb out, never to escape. A person who devotes too much time helping this community and gets roasted by thubie 
lolwut, I'm talking about the surveys, yea.
In fact, I'm typing the guide now 
You guys want a flashbang or no flashbang?
You get google rewards for spending IAP. So realistically you could whale out in other games to stay "f2p" in idleon
I guess I'll work on elite classes
Pops bought me an iphone, haven't been a part of Android/Google in a hot minute. Didn't realize you got rewards for spending nowadays
Buddha why the hammer 
You'll get the boot for making so many people enter #endgame-gen-chat without authorization
Wait google pays you for paying?
What the heck, I got 'error, you dropped the sample'. Anyone know what's that about?
Refresh map, I suspect it has something to do with killing a crystal
It was mining gold
It was easily fixed by resampling right after, I'm just curious about the error.
Same
card farming from chopping and such is DR/cardDR and speed and afk gains?
Could it be that the maps defaults to iron, and I clicked sample same tick it swapped to gold?
Cause flashbang
zow/chow count on both bb's, superchows only count on second bb
Question, for SB, why do you not level the sailing chest rarity for hunting artifacts?
They'll run the same chest back and forth, not mutliple new chests
More Chests > Less Chests with a little more chance for an artifact
I max out my chests every time I check, this still apply?
A bit rude ๐
At the end it's 29 chests with the Talent vs 50 chests without the Talent
facts hurt sorry
The difference with SB and without is phenominal iirc
maybe put teneycycle at level 200 so they know that's the 3 second mark
not even lava reads what he wrote
Alright, tad confused. If I only check often enough that even with the ability I'm maxing my chest count, how is having it bad? Or is it not bad until I can't max my chests
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
Check that out
IKR?
Wait, what the hell? They come to port and stay without the ability? I must have leveled it instantly! I never realized that.
Now they live in Idaho
Yeah. You are losing out on 20 Chests when you got all Boats unlocked
So assuming my 22 Cap. It would be 21 Chests at 0.1% or 42 Chests at 0.08% (A rough estimate)
Whew. Aight, time to respec.
Its only worth if you check the port every 2-4 hours tho right?
I'm a little late, but being in the middle of walking will often cause that error
Oh really?
You can consider that talent if you check every 24 hours. But even then I personally don't recommend it
I've gotten it w/o walking
Thanks for getting back to me with an informed answer.
Yeah, it can happen if you are doing anything the game thinks is weird ๐ Walking, attacking a bug nest (not collecting the bug), hitting a crystal enemy or some other unsamplable target
Goddamn i missed this info earlier when i used 75 wind jars...
bad is going to sailing without any luck, and getting stuck for fury for 3 months
Where do you even get that many?
W5 quests
max is 50 chests within a 6h claim (losing 10 chests), iirc, right?
I hadnt turned in my divinity level quests in any char.
I shall another batch soon since im right around 80 on most chars
another day another reset 
30 Cap + 20 Boats
So 29 with UE Loot vs 50 without UE Loot
take some of my mails
that should be enough for my snail to go to 16 and back to 15 a few times ๐
exactly
A lucky man
your snail is struggling to get a promotion from general rank.... Maybbe it pissed off some prince
snail reset back to 10 yesterday lol
Can't wait for Icys Snail to reset from 21 to 5 
strongest snail player here., been going since the beginning without failsafe and never got a reset 
9 fails at 21 (from what he said) still going strong
he is probably already at 0,0001% chance of not reseting
Never resetting and not taking our warning to get the Atom 
can you skip gathering in W2 colo?
the mobs stop spawning
how do you speed it up i guess?
Don't use Midas, Jawbreaker or Big Brain Time for W2 Colo
Don't use hp prayer and you're good
impossible
oh
a W2 coloseum takes around 1minue and 20 minutes by default (with dk)
gotta remove prayers for sure
do you guys think someone gonna reach the "end-game" of w6 with gold pocketwatch in day 1? 
lava said most things in w6 won't be affected by pocketwatches
yea taking that prayer off fixed it
In terms of Maps? - Gold watches have nothing to do with it, but it will be at most 2 days
For Skills? - Apparently Gold watches don't do anything (or very little)
yeah not map, just everything else
but since bane said lava won't let pocketwatch affect those thing
Gold Pocketwatches would just reset some mechanics. Not skip 24 hours in skills. So no shot they would finish skills
i'm sure there'll be a shop in w6 that'll be affected by the pocketwatch
Someone's gonna pocketwatch to get more greenstacks to be the first.
Ikr
or something like snail
Vendor?
Prolly
Even if they do nothing for W6 skills, they will still give "W6 benefit" 
Particle clicks, NBLB will be hitting the new W6 bubbles, stamp discounts are generated, shops reset, vial roll attempts, etc.
RIP to a real one, my laptop, now Iโll be stuck without it running 24/7 for a week at least a true tragedy
Folks have more than me if they bought out the gemshop trophies and gold stopwatches, but just imagine a month of NBLB and stamps on day 1

It will be a semi-tough decision if we get any gaming bit multis right off the bat
If it enables me to get to the last superbit, I could be getting MORE particle clicks each stopwatch 
We both suffer then
16x snail and.. what, 8x nugget? 128x higher
Does log book multi do much?
You have 5 more achievements, but 9 less plant evos
I think it'll be easier for me to get my nugget to 1B than to get my snail do 20
its good
even better with the yellow bubble leveled
but I'm too lazy to level that
my yellow bubble is suffering aswell
nblb 
Forgot about that bubble
Let's see
So I should farm evos?
T6 at the very least
If you don't have T6s yet, yes
Oof. I guess I should maybe print those
Alrighty
2 slot hourly click
Sorry particle generation
how do you know your max available nugget in gamming, it seams idleon efficiency isn't accurate
I forgor about dandielogs on my last resampling round 
tbf I was just sampling oak and copper
Toolbox is updated with the Equinox buff range included
https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-5/gaming
IT
What is this hard cap thingy?
Is it that past this level it's not worth leveling up?
hard cap is max
oh you can't level it higher?
It means that even if you brought this bubble to level 10 million, it would still only have a max value of 50. So you can evaluate how worthwhile more levels are by a percentage of maximum value.
Ah I see it's this those kinds of functions that tend towards the the max without ever reaching it
Going to 90% max value is always good. 95% is still worthwhile on most bubbles. After that becomes iffy territory, normally requiring hundreds or thousands of levels for a single 1% increase
hard cap is where the weak players stop leveling. Only the strongest batch keep going beyond it. like all might
yeah I saw that using the "goal" on the bubble
Like even if I give it thousands of levels it stays barely higher
That one you should only level to take it off NBLB
Alright so I'll try to get them to 75-80 at least
That one is a rough example, because Prowess itself caps at 2.00 across ALL sources including the meal ๐
As prowess itself caps on 2
no matter how hard u try to escape nblb, u will always lose the battle
That's the general idea though, yeah. You push bubbles toward 70%, then 75%, then 80%, etc. Bit by bit
that's what I've been doing (I think ๐ฅฒ )
if u try to target bubbles for NBLB procs, u will end up losing months of atoms clicks just to try and get 1 specific bubble to atom range,, (that is not even worth for progression)
only expection would be Diamond chef bubble. But since it goes into a dif calculation its not hard targeting it
nah I'm leaving it do it's job
I'm unbothered by nblb lol
yeah, dont bother with it
it will level everything eventualy
those are all garbage bubbles anyway
only, 2-3 are decent
Ignore Overdues and Gospel Leader are the only 2 jumping out at me there as bubbles that maybe shouldn't be on your NBLB list. Depending on your current state, you might be able to print those materials in an hour or two
sometimes if I can give a few "free" levels on a low level bubble i'd do it but otherwise idc
Minmaxing with NBLB sounds like a hellish endeavor in tedium, at least at the stage I'm at.
I don't think it is hellish by any means, but I guess it depends on the person ๐คท
Having all materials available / already sampled usually makes it pretty quick to swap. But it is also easy to forget and leave it on for a while lol
It's a matter of going an resampling things. I still have default # of slots
the end in near 
bro.
Ah. Yeah that sucks butt then
I've got all 10 sample slots
it never ends
And I'm here still trying to get those to 20k
Still a ways to go for me
it does for me, i've got some things i need to try and get done before w6 after 200 gs
You'll get there one day too 
I also just don't have enough of some materials to even craft what I want, so there's that too.
That's fair. We're at very different stages of the game ๐
Also, thanks for your tool, I didn't check it out until I saw you here in chat.
New layout is nice
That's what having someone with a brain (instead of me) doing the frontend will do 
I was giving you all the primo 1998 gamefaqs experience and you were seemingly unimpressed
Have a screenshot of the old layout I avoided?
one day it'll get a font ๐
i have no gold bars XD
aside has got a font but body doesnt ><
what does the death star talent do? I read it but doesn't make sense.
It really wasn't THAT different. It had images on top of sections (instead of to the left), and the header text was white instead of the gold/green. Definitely looks better now, but it wasn't an extreme makeover
should i have unending loot on if i check sailing every 8 - 10 hours
It is garbage ๐ Normally when YOU die, you have a 10 minute respawn timer. That star talent reduces that 10 minutes.
gross, thanks
not 10 mins if you got the health po box maxed ๐
Ah, yea. Not terribly different. An improvement, for sure though.
wtf@hidden osprey.....gimme
I'll let Niko know lol. We've got several more changes planned, they just have to be done in phases
When you said the old layout was the gamefaqs experience, I expected ASCII art and tables.
Even that was too fancy. The VERY original layout was in discord formatting for copy/paste. I never thought people would actually like this enough to use a true site, so I built it for me to be able to copy/paste from console into discord
Going through evolutions. I haven't touched HTML since truly 1999 so I had to learn from the ground up again. But someone else is driving that part now to help us get caught up in time
Question! Can you reroll higher worship power on the bronze ones?
until you cap
Ty
You cannot reroll base skill power until Hex shape
ah ok, ty โค๏ธ
Worship power isn't labeled Misc, so no.
That's why you can reroll a pop obol for higher stats, but not a skill. At least until hex.
would this work even for lower level towers or should i look for ones that have close levels to mine?
I probably know the Answer, but... should I be stacking these just in case?
At least 10, in case you want to do the W3 trophies at some point
broken cog vial when 
you plan on playing 10 mil days?
Who knows what Lava wants from us 
I think the older guide goes to 130 or so? then anything from 140+ uses that new guide
Support probably
How about 20 mil days? you can greenstack the repaired version next.
Headpats, probably
Only 2738 years per stack. no big deal
just 1 more week now
It's added to my pile 
I don't get it ๐
Like can I follow a certain setup even if it says that it uses towers with much higher levels than mine or should look for a setup with towers that have closer levels to mine? My towers are around lvls 5 - 20

Idk if y'all know this, but those whetstones get used as a stack, so only pull 1 at a time for actual use.
lol
After I finished Pickle Vial level 2 I kinda started to just stack everything ๐
imagine burning 100 in one go 
You're gonna want the old guides in this spreadsheet. They have smaller wave goals. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
seems like someone learned the hard way 
sure did bud. suuuuuuure did. when I planned on using them on every character that day.
thanks a lot 
ty for the remind, i've missed so many days 
Just ask Lava for like 5 Pickles 
If i had the chance to ask lava for something, it would probably be meg or unboxer 
i can get pickles... cant get those
Hmm maybe I start trying for Meg 
Don't have anything better to do rn
200 Gs done thanks to your post and done my Nug grinding. Now it's just plunders for me
I'm honestly making much quicker progress on my GS than anticipated
I don't think I'll be done by the time w6 comes out, but I'll be a lot closer than I expected
Totally. My goal was 180 pre W6 and when I actually started to focus on them I had 180 after the first day ๐
kinda the same here
That was a good month of Beans and random Crystal Farming 
didn't have much else to really 'focus' on so I decided to start doing gstacks and now i'm 2 off done
'spose I have to force myself to candy the bars soon
Up to Dem felt fine to me
Oh yeah I saw you crafting 30m bullets for both bullet types
Void is where I started to feel like it was taking a long time
I kinda don't wanna do void 'cause the salts will just eat them. Omnomnom
yw, but scoli's reviewbot is way better for gstacks now.
I dont feel a need to update it, just refer everyone to the bot
I did bars while also stacking portraits and other stuff so the bars didn't seem too bad up to void for me
you laid the groundwork which is the important thing tbh
For sure. I wouldn't have even attempted to gauge which items to recommend without your list as the base
imagine trying to set up greenstacks as scoli while also learning to code
Love when gamers make me able to be even more lazy 
Shoutout to Sludger as well for providing most of the codified itemnames
I'm sure there is a better list somewhere than the one I yoinked, but it had ~1100 or so item names in it. Saved me so much time. I only had to search for ~100 more that were relevant
I've got it setup now to tell me what unknown items it finds as gstacks
I just peruse that each night and put 2 and 2 together
...though cheaters are definitely giving me weird shit to track down lol
Oh Rash now that you are here. I started slowly working on a "Best Maps for Crystal Farming" Guide and wanted your Opinion on something. You think if I finish W3 - 6 it would be worth pinning (a compressed version with links to every guide) in either the Master Guide or here in W5 Chat? I feel W5 is where Crystal farming really starts to shine
If you don't think it's worth, I will just put it in #1084911530417606656 
I already got W3 finished, but not posted and I would need to go over the already posted ones ๐
scarf or divine pendant for vman speed run?
Divine Scarf for both respawn and afk. Can't be beat
um, not the divine scarf, the tooth one
More than fine pinning it and putting it in the masterlist.
chiz scarf or tooth pendant
chiz scarf still better for the respawn then. The strung tooth is more of an active item
Good. I will try to finish the others by the end of the Week (or next week) and will Ping you 
maybe that w2 one will finally convince people to stop fucking going anywhere but sandy pots lol
Sand Castles* was atrocious compared to Tysons 
mason jar is a mandatory stamp, but people still dont listen
tysons really is much more, but the stamp can't be ignored
Tysons also requires you to be more advanced, as it has 3 platforms you ideally want uptime on 2 statues for optimal gains.
its still likely better regardless
(i know all 3 platforms can be hit, but bad placement can make for some bad hours at lower levels)
I might throw in my stats at the top of the post or something - Or a little note: Higher Statue level and Vman Enhancement make Tysons better (still Sandy Pots better)
either way, mostly just throwing out random thoughts lol.
Unless you max mason jar, no reason to go anywhere else
Should I use kattlekruk obol or star dice obol?
You can never have enough Mason Jar 
Kattle if afk
So pretty much kattle unless on farming on dk or es?
Depends on your level of laziness. If you never want to swap, kattle for sure.
If you're fine swapping every time, throw in dr then swap to afk when you claim
Highly recommend swapping
Youโre my goat from now on 
I withdrew exactly 20m bullets wheres my greenstack laval
What amount of DR do you recommend when starting to farm onyx statues?
The maximum as possible
that's better
I ate it
Huge Wall of Text incoming don't be scared 
at 9x I feel like it's a bit low still
W3 Crystal Farming
Hey guys 
Which Map? - Neyeptunes vs Bloodbones
Bloodbones give you around 10%-15% more Statues than Neyeptunes, but you lose out on Black Lenses. Black Lenses are used for the "Primordial Shrines" in Construction.
I prefer farming Neyeptunes, and will state their variety of drops in the following section, since they have more loot. Although farming Bloodbones for Statues is totally fine!
Note: Not all World 3 specific Statues are dropped by Crystals, only the EhExPee Statue.
The Contact Lenses, which Neyeptunes drop, are also used in the Refinery for Nullo Salt
Neyeptunes drop: Contact Lenses, Black Lenses, Distilled Water, Average EXP Potions, Feasty Statues, Golden Ham and Golden Cheese
Crystals Drop: Distilled Water, Statues (which include EhExPee, Speed, Feasty, Beholder), Decent Strength Potions, Mountain Bread, Average EXP Potions and Arctis Leaves
They can also drop Quest Items: Cloudsound Follower, Instalab Follower and Corporatube Sub
Some of the Materials can be used in Crafting: Critter Numnums; Soulble Gum - Those are one of the easiest ways to gain Anvil Exp in Midgame
Especially Important when farming W3 Crystals: Feasty Statue, EhExPee Statue, Black Lenses (when farming Neyeptunes) and Corporatube Sub
Note: Instalab Follower and Cloudsound Follower can be farmed in W3, but they are usually farmed in W1/W2 - Due to better Crystal Loot
Amount of Greenstacks realistically possible: 12
Yay

Chronicals my biggest fan 

You should let me know when your done with the others
They should be getting pinned when I'm done. Thanks to Rashaken
Yeah I did some testing and Neyeptunes still felt really good and getting Cons Mastery up is never a bad idea
But that's also why I said Bloodbones is totally fine to farm 
I would argue W3 is the worst World to farm Crystals in ๐
The only good things are some exclusive Greenstacks and Golden Cheese
Greenstack Equinox mirrors 
I got 65k in storage I still need to give to my toons 
oh i was thinking bread not cheese, nvm
Isn't bread bugged or gives only 1% of the amount shown?
ya
Shouldnโt that one be pinned in the w3 chat and not here?
is it better to go for str or wisdom on warrior weapon
str unless you're incredibly desperate for accuracy
I'd say W4 that's where the others are
I argue you are not really farming Crystals in W3 ๐
But I'm not done with the rest so we will see where all of them will go
but, then just level the acc prayer and use it
is there ever a reason to get vman cooking lvls?
Rift probably has a cooking skill in the buff there huh..? ๐ค
There is mastery, but anything beyond 500 is basically impossible
so you will want ~50+ for all chars

You just envy me, since you never did something for the Community 
"How to get Doot Guide" - Spent 500$ - By Ducky 
Why u expose me
Sorry? 
Itโs that easy 
That's the Pity Animation? 
imagine it roll back to first pet hehe
So Rash beat you to the Guide. What now?
I got nothing for the community 
Damn. Not even a "how to spread positivity" or "How to hourly click" guide? 
What is in the last 3 boxes in the gaming skill (not including empty boxes)
I am a duck that sleeps
Maybe next year will be your year for the community

Snail, Pong and not sure about the third
Actually. Just let me do this
tortures you
Gives you a card minigame and it skips time if you get a star
1 hour, 3 hours, 5, hours, 8 hours, 12 hours, 24, 36 and so on
Oh ok
Those accumulate together so hitting 2 stars in a row is already 4 hours (maybe I misremember the times)
Upgrading it in the imports tab gives higher% chance for free games on it which just means it doesn't go on cooldown when you click it
Wait a serious question ducky. I got 3 mail and could click my snail... or do I just save?
sure you will, w6 achievements will make the bit gain go brr
click it

15 

Evil Duck

She was 15 
I won't click more. The Snail had a last chance - Accumulate till W6
I stole her snail luck 
Out of Context ducky 
im at 19 i wont click till w6 either im to scared
stop
Ducky is just bad luck
I read that

and thought I should reword that
FBI OPEN UP
Too late. You are done for
does the snail have an actual canon gender?

Get his ass 
you got dis
last time i let this chat bait me i got set back to 15 i aint trustin no one here anymore
Do it, trust 

thats cause u didnt have enough faith
I shall come back to being lord chronicals
Do whatever makes you happy 
To grant you another 1
guess i'll have to keep chatting with you people then 
a mod would never lie to you! || or edit this message after you fail, which will most likely happen, to make it look like I discouraged you
||
Genderless Snail 
click it click it
It will work trust
i clicked the encouragement
you cant sway my devotion
True
fair point
i win, time to retire
Not the click we were hoping for 
but the click you deserved
Take me with 
you havent served your time yet
No Iโve been here longer I just leave the server a lot
did i serve my time?
This is proof of that
I needa do my biggie hours soon 
so you are a deserter?
Manโฆ that was along time ago 
still not enough
I was forced to leave 
why you gotta remind me 
My other account was deleted. Iโve been here since September of 2022
I didnโt send messages tho, cause Iโm a lil baby with social anxiety 
i did one 19->15 and haven't been back to 19 yet
this is discord, thats most of us ๐
arent we all a bit socially awkward
Me a lil child tho 
that sounds so wrong
the first time i wrote here i had a lil panic attack that i might annoy people
Danger zone turn back now

Lmao I feel that
This dingleberry took too long to kill, but it's done.
now do the other 2 dungeon achievments

lmao, how'd you guess I didn't get either of them?
no one does them until they need the achievement for bit gain
because 3rd snake is easy on one clear and the other two take a bit of time
i cant even force myself to do them
And I still wonโt do them

Weenie Hut Jr.
I've tried for T3 snake a few times, I am one run away from completing the pass one. Wazzam one looks like it'll just take some time. I play OSRS, did MTA, this ain't nothing.
its not a thing about "it being something" but its just not worth the effort
monkey piling up on me now too
Maybe Iโll watch SpongeBob while I do colos today
Doing daily colo runs isn't very weenie hut jr. of you ducky. maybe you should graduate to weenie hut sr. since you're still sweaty
I get 180k bars per candy is that around the cap?
Best way to candy bars imo is to get progress for something else while also getting the bars
that isn't really helpful, how many slots, what ore?
All slots 5hellfire and Gold
Day 10 of not doing colos 
It's like i dont know u

I haven't daily clicked for colo tickets in like a month 
Gimme
I would i really dont use them
I promise I click my Tickets after my sleep (unless I'm playing games)
Who thought doing 1000 colo runs in a few weeks would hurt my sanity 
Not any more then clicking 16k+nuggets
cant hurt ur sanity if u never had any
might be time to make some more peanuts
Nuggets were pretty chill 
I had some streams in the background and started clicking. When I did colos I didn't know what to watch so I watched random stuff
imagine playing the game 
+2 div levels 
Not getting double xp on that would be sad
Get that bad boy to 500
w6 exp gonna go crazy
whenever the new mobs come out

Which is why I have introduced minute clicking

Now it's just Candy Clicking bubbles 
I am capping out the forge per candy 
Doesn't take much to do that tbh
Isn't it like 20k-30k kills for the early bars
i can make 48m peanuts atm, that's gonna be fun 
Its gonna take so much candy 
all the bars are around the same amount of time/kills for full slot
need to candy some gold bars though if i'm gonna make gold peanuts
Do I have to collect the bars after every candy?
Or can I like use a few and get back
Some slots dont get auto refilled though?
ore does get auto refilled as long as your storage has it
hm
if it didn't refill once, it won't refill until you do it manually
so if you were out of gold a week ago you need to refill manually now even if you have the gold
only took half an eclipse, i'll take it
half an eclipse 
i'm working on them 
but they're a joke, ngl
i need to make kattle gear for respawn% but i'm afraid w6 gear requires magma
with the power of candy theyre all done 
yeah i should problably go back to using candy
Even W5 
last time i used was for w1-w4 schows
Im stopping after gold bars
Candy gives me 80k so I would need 100+ candies for plat
oops fucked up my biggie hour kills
Same 
XD
Its almost time 
Hm?
you got dis
Oh, is that the companion timer or am I missing something?
For foraging, miasma, what does it mean 2 pets of the same type? Like 2 identical pets or is something else meant by โtypeโ
Most people are probably assuming that it is but its something else I'm cooking up 
You cant have any duplicate genetics in that territory
Now I'm curious
Thank u
Artifact chance shiny pet level 11 
But speaking of companions
Damn I didnt think anyone would guess it that easily
Gotta get ready for all the new artifacts coming in W6




