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LabVinity is great for smackin 2 birds with 1 afking activity though
Goat + Mantra does work
Manta just sucks in general though
I did Goat + Mantra for months on multiple characters to level my active farming classes. They definitely got levels from 1 to 40 without ever sitting on the altar themselves.
Whats mantra
not in lab it doesn't. i tested 2 chars, with the rest on mantra adn 1 not. the one not on mantra, after 1 hour in lab with goat - (all had goat and all in lab) - had more exp gains.
wenworld6 tho? real talk
mantra is 1exp/1div per hour per char on mantra. so 10 chars? 10exp/10div base. - but doesn't seem to calculate when in LAB (even with Goat god) - but DOES work on Alter
Mantra isn't shown in the AFK-gains menu. If you based it off of that, you did it wrong 
approxminately Feb 16
its not the system, its literaly 1 hour claims
what is the class discount in alchemy?
Your welcome to test it yourself, go set everyone on Goat, everyone on Mantra, slam them all in the LAB - except 1 - don't use mantra. Then give them an hour in lab, and see who claims more EXP.
I can promise than my BB has never, for even a second, sat on the altar. They were purely leveled by Goat + Mantra until 40 when they got TranQi.
bubble two double one discount bubble
Whoop whoop well done
so my bm in lab with goat on VIT - got 155 exp, but my bb in lab with goat, on MANTRA (with everyone else on mantra as well) only got 21 div exp.
1 hour claim
....
this was tested lke... last week
did you check the exp bar or just the afk gains screen?
Vitalic gives 7 exp per hour. Mantra gives 1. OF COURSE vitalic gives more
both exp bar and afk screen. my BB was so far behind
mantra gives 1 per hour PER person on mantra, I had 8 on mantra
so mantra should have given more than vitalic
but it didn't. it gave significantly less
Maybe what you're missing is that Mantra doesn't work with Divinity exp
while Vitalic does.
mantra specifically works with divinity exp only. lol. it has no Divinity points, but 1 exp per char per hour
Sorry, exp multi
possibly but it makes it still clear that - don't use mantra in Lab.
except significantly stifling your exp gains per hour, and not giving you divinity points, sure
theres also a chance that mantra will effect lab users - if the other mantra users are on alter and not in Lab.
but with everyone in lab - minus 1 active - and everone on goat - and everyone in lab, on Mantra (minus 1 for testing) - the exp gains in Lab- for Divinity - were absolutely garbage compared to just using Vitalic.
That's just mantra being shit 
exactly my point! lol. "dont use mantra in lab!" lol
Stop at "don't use mantra"
i mean mantra is fine if you don't have goat and your slappin 8+ on the alter for a week
Sitting on altar with mantra and lab with mantra should be 0 difference
but once you get 25 divinity, go Vitalic for sure, until 60 then 80. lol
SHOULD be - but it doesn't register as 'all for one' - so the bonus and point of mantra is eliminated.
O.o you're the only person I've ever heard claim it doesn't work in the last 13 months
i recently tested it lol
i decided i would sit down on my chars and let my bubo go active for a few weeks, meanwhile no one but my bubo was 75 lab yet, so they couldn't use all the chips yet - so i figured I'd goat up and LabVinity to get the best of my resutls, so i sat with 'which technique should i use' - and no one answered if mantra worked, so i gave it an hour
It absolutely does work though.. I'm not sure why you think it doesn't
after my very limited 1 hour of testing, the difference in EXP was too vast to mantra - and simply not using it was the better option lol
the exp gains are not there.
when i get more than 5x the difference without it, on something that should be -1 divine Exp per hour as a base (vitalic being 7 exp per hour base, while Mantra on 8 chars, making it 8) - if the exps were CLOSE i'd consider it - but they weren't
Vitalic is better than Mantra, yes, that's clear
What proof do you have that Mantra is different on Goat+Lab than on the altar directly?
but mantra - with 8 chars on mantra - should be better than vitalic for pure Divine Exp gains
Like i said, i put chars on mantra, on goat, and shoved them in lab. 1 char (bm) was set to Vit instead. when comparing 1 hour claim, the Bm got 155exp, the BB (with mantra, backed by 7 others on mantra) only got 21 divine exp. no changes to account were made at this time EG: no leveilng up to get more divinity % or talents upgraded or what not, it was literally swap to BM, check and record gains, then swap to BB and check and record gains.
That right there already shows improper testing..
it shows an hourly gain with a significant difference to make mantra worthless
Chill, listen.
If you logged straight into BB, you didn't get the Mantra benefit from anyone else.
You would need to log into EVERY OTHER mantra character first, then BB last, to see the full culmination.
that makes it worthless to the REST of the chars.
yes it does, as the first mantra would suffer the same as my BB here
The original claim that started this was not whether or not mantra is worth using vs other ones, it was that mantra wasn't working correctly while being in lab
it would make zero difference to the first mantra user checked.
The first person wouldn't get the exp until you log back into them after checking the others, yes
You'll still get it all, just not all at once
so there is no point arguing semantics vs debating your original claim of mantra not working in lab without proper testing/results of the tests
Quick example, making up classes.
You have 3 characters on Mantra: BB, DK, and SB. Each has been AFK for 1 hour.
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Log into BB. The game checks to see if there is any pending Mantra (or Bubo Essence Transferral lab exp) waiting for your BB. At this point, that's 0.
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Log into DK. The game checks and sees your DK is owed 1 hour of Mantra from the BB claim. (BB is now owed 1 hour from DK).
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Log into SB. They get 2 hours of Mantra, from BB and DK. (BB is now owed 2 hours, DK is now owed 1 hour.)
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Log back into BB. Hey, they got 2 hours of mantra.
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Log back into DK. Hey, they got 1 hour of mantra.
Can I say something really quickly
No
Pls don't make this a huge argument
nah its a discusssion of fundamentals over an argument
It is the whole reason the !mantra command exists. Its implementation is confusing as fuck
man if mantra bonus exp get multiplier it would be great
or just don't use mantra.
I fully support you saying Don't use mantra. I just don't want to see misinformation/misunderstanding spread about it being different on altar vs lab is all ๐คท
I'd rather people have a debate about how game mechanic works then about the implementation of 'other things'
is there a way to ruby Xylobone (realistically)?
Run a lot of Colo3 
tbh if your exp multiplier is suck (especially early game where you have like 1.5x or 3x) using mantra actually better than focus, since you get 10 exp per hour if every char doing altar instead of 3/6 exp per hour
i can't imagine they would drop that many cards ๐ฆ
after get get like 5-10x exp multi mantra can go to hell 
Last I did the math for my account, i needed something like 100-150 Colo runs to max the card. Not completely unreasonable
Do the colo for the gems/keys/candy and be happy with ruby xylobones when you get there
Not that hard
very easy
sit here with my storage open slappin Deposit all to get GS frog legs lol
Had to filter mine lol. Reduces lag and doesn't flood me overnight 
When doing Colo I need to make sure my orb lasts till I open the last chest right?
just shockwave it while orbing
why are so many people going for frogs map? i don't see it
i'm hardstuck tadpole
I'm hardstuck frog egg
Bubo at frog for somewhat reduced rates compared to DK on beans, the key difference is you're gaining alchemy progress instead of increased construction progress
now i murder Gmush cuz i spent too much on something and don't have 10m lol
if i maxed out my bubble cauldrons i can just assign 4 of them to sigils and rest on liquid cauldrons right
Have you unlocked w6 bubbles?
some but im too lazy
always pushing new sigils and have 4 golding the good sigils you've already unlocked, if you don't have good sigils to gold then liquid cauldrons
i can always cc for bubbles so it don't really matter
i just wanna get more sigils
been stuck for quite a while now
with w6 coming 'most likely next month' - i wouldn't push too hard for bubbles, there is bound to be a way to get higher than the like 1% chances now, making it less effort later.
I got an artifact from sailing but it randomly disappeared
i doubt that since with CC you already have infinite attempts, no point in buffing new bubble odds
not me who maxed out everything at the bubble cauldron
wut artifact was it
"unobtainium' obviously
Moal head
So what happened to it
i got a perfect meme for this
honestly i can't really help
but did u try
reseting the game
try cloud saving and logging back in and check if it's there
like closed it and open it again
It said something like no storage slot etc. I guess
Ye idk it was my first sailing
While looting can i sell the artifact
Maybe i missclicked sth
Should I be doing the random events
for slab i guess yea
in case u get lucky and get some of the items
the artifacts show up on the platform above the one with the map after you get them
They're not items.
you can't sell them, the only way that you'd somehow lose it is if your game crashed/closed as you got it and didn't cloud save
it's his first time sailing bro
if u did got it it'd have pop up like this on the loot screen
(das me btw)
(lucky fury)
i got so many searching for updated fury... lol
theres a sigil bottom row first 'pea pod' that does
It was like this
did ur game crash when u got the artifact
Wait does doot mean that you can link to all divinities at once?
no it didnt
yes it automatically links it
not that you can- but you ARE
so u don't have to go link it all manually
as long as your level 2 divinity
ye
That's busted as hell
Gemshop, Willow Sippy Vial, Chilled yarn sailing artifact, Pea Pod sigil
sounds like u just got doot
aight thanks
thers some fun stuff to do when you get Doot, to maximize benefits (mostly with ES since they can dual link) like some gods need to actually be linked, to get benefits, but yeah
I've had doot for a month but didn't hit w5 until last night
ahhh get everyone to divinity level 2, and read the pin on Doot
congrats then
In useful tips?
in pins
I am 4everDootless lol
@hexed pine what was your first name you had
can't really give any tips since i started w5 without doot
IFedYutaDrugs
Only thing you need to do is link your highest leveled divinity character to purrmep rest is just get them to level 2 divinity then stick them back in lab and change out styles when you get new better ones
Before that
who got doot for free ?
GojoIsHigh
I mean like your original name
@rugged tokenwhich one is the willow spiiy vial
Which channel is the pin in bc I don't see it here
don't you need to unlock the gods to get theri benefits?
don't remember
XD
equinox logs
i think it was the WandererOfServers
ah thank
Alr
only for the blessing
gonna sample with my bubo on it
almost.. there...
im close to rift 36 anyways
iam stuck at like rift 32 or something. 500 kills in 5 mins
i tried. max out at like 250 lol
that log sample is only like 117k for me. lol
wonder how much i get
All Major's are active regardless of having them unlocked as well as passives with the exception of purrmep, the reason to unlock new gods with doot is to be able to level up their blessings. The other reason to continue to level divinity even with doot is for the gods Minor link bonus to increase with divinity levels.
i might be able to resample bigger now, my ES was in LabVinity for 2 weeks while i improved bubbles and such... i should do that now
yea im gonna put one more guy in here then sample equinox logs
So once bear is unlocked I can just go back to killing/swapping alts?
If you have doot you only need to level your characters to level 2 divinity for the major link bonuses to be active
so 117, to 128K .. not a huge big bonus, but some gains.
only 146k
i could start printing both instead of 1 though... thatll help speed things up lol
yea probably
Sick
128K x4 now hourly. half mil. so only like... 76 days? Hmm might wanna get some other mages on them logs lol
yooo nice i went from 600k to 1mil
u can also use vman printer go brr
dang how
are you all using the logs on logs talent and not just slotting it on your hotbar?
i got like 10 once
yep i used it
I'm a clammy now
i'd be an amateur if i didn't use that
you'd be surprised how many people just rush to w5 and don't have a clue how to actually do anything in the game
That was me
ive had slow and steady progress for like 7 months. lol
But it was w4
Makes giving curated advice really difficult for the people who've been late-end game for a long time because they've forgotten a lot of the progression hurdles or it's just not fresh in their mind
Is kruk hard?
i made new bag for es.. now instead of 20K some parts, 57K parts. yesss... more things in hand
he got i think 1q hp or just 100t
kruk at any difficulty isn't necessarily hard, the difficulty comes in micro managing the mole spawns and then still being able to hit kruk in-between unless you out scale and just kill him
anyways active sb for like 2 days and now he almost at moles
Sounds like troll
yea kruk is mostly just hard on vman
and when we get a Ka-me-ha-me beam Kruk will be hit with a surprise
tho 100k kills per 2 hr is terrible
void radius comin in clutchin
every 1 min sure ๐
yeah, but that's just because most people myself included want to do nkruk on vman asap for the gear before properly scaling his damage making it a really tedious fight
i did mine at 20b dmg, and it was pretty hard to get that dmg without just giga juicing quickslap, cause there was no equinox dmg
I did mine as well at 23b with 1k quick slap before onyx statues iirc but that also required me to not neglect the rest of my damage sources on a farily neglected vman
i dont even think i had 500 quickslap lol
but yea i had onyx statues, but i hadnt done all of the crit dmg statue quests
so my dmg was lower than it should of been
Yeah, there isn't really a way around it without just hard farming feasty onyx and cheesing quick slap to the fastest nkruk on vman
yep pretty much
which that of course sets a really bad mindset for the rest of the game and alchemy 
this is my qs atm, i donno when ima stop. im currently doing half qs half call me bob atm
more than 4500 more than mine!
what to do
trying to catch up to med is impossible
left side, always
always left until you get a 100%
when those 100% appear, snag em up
when will it appear
idk
otherwise, use the "low %" its RNG
you will get seveal gods on 1%
and NO 50% is not worth it. its a trap!
is there rotation or sth ? i didnt get the point
mine is still at 1k, doing the rest of my bubbles to 90-95% and skilling ones so I can eventually candy bubble 1s
i dont know the odds, but getting 100% on the right takes a lil bit. so you always want to go for the cheap option (the left) until the 100% chance shows up on the right it will likely take you like 20 or so on the left for it to show up as a guess
yea i can candy bubble ones atm but its a pain in the ass with how much wood you get lol
the only skilling bubbles i dont have at 90% is catching xD
ruck sack to save your sanity
i was using ruck sack ๐ฆ
and i failed like 3x in a row of 50%'s - completely destroying my points. lol. Then i 1%'d a while and a 100% came.... so.. yeah.. 50% is a trap
what do you mean by takes a lil bit? is it depended on time or how many times i buy these branches
its rng weither or not the 100% shows up
all done :D
i did have like the next 2 gods aver that fail at 50% - activate on the low % (the 1% etc)
does it reset weekly
nope
no
its juts rng your chances for a god to hear you
each time you click on one of the options, new options come up
sometimes, the same options.
your goal is to use the cheapest one to get the 100% option to come up
ye
but if you notice, the 1% is always proprotionate to the 100%, meaning 100 of the 1% would = the point cost of the 100%
does this mean they are working or i have to collect all
check is collected, the first tier
if it shows a tick you have it and its working
black out is not yet found
so speed is only used to get the minimum sail time (mine is 2 hours) so if my speed is lower than it takes to get to an island, in 2 hour trips, then i'd need to increase speed. loot is good for more loot, but honestly, getting those boats/captain slots is just as important so you have more sailors doing more trips per hour
and after the first like 3 boats, they don't use "gold" to upgrade, but island parts
so whats the first thing i should do
keep gold for new boats captains or level up loot or speed
id say look at you rmap and your boaty first island and see how long his trip takes.
116 min
so i'd save up for second boat/captain
isnt it better to level up speed
sb aint half bad
faster = more money per hour
there is a minimum time to islands you cannot do any faster than - so speed isn't always the best choice
your already under 2 hours, so I doubt you can get 'much faster' for that boat on that island.
noice
how to check it
went from 40 to 60 on feasty still no change :p
iam not sure if theres an in game way to, to be honest, i use Idleon Efficincy and such so i have timers on the side
103 min min travel time for me - so speeding my boats up faster than that - will do nothing
I'm trying to get the Log Book full. I'm doing it for roughly 2 Months now. It looks like this till day 4 or 5. Even the yellow plants won't grow into the next stage while the other plants of the same species grew in the first 4-5 days. Is there a known bug or am I ultra ultra unlucky?
clicking on an island shows the minimum travel time ๐
for like 2 months ive been trying to hit 10K nugget.. so your lightyears beyond me
Why are the chats dead
cuz its late?
No it's not
Well for me it's not so nvm forget about thay
I forgot that there are different time zones for some reason
the world is not flat. we have timezones lol
if it is not flat why i dont fall down while walking
cos of your cerebellum probs
because you have better motor skills than a toddler?
can you still get lab exp from bubo when you have arctis divinity on?
no lab exp is only while in lab
the talent?
physically in da tubes
ty
don't focus too high on lab though - in w5 when you get goat god, you can work lab and divinity at the same time (with LabVinity)
yea true, i'm really in w4 but rushed someone through to unlock w5
if you mean plants getting to T6 i hear it is hard enough getting them to T5 in a couple days you kinda have to chem train with them on the board but even then it isnt really worth it as far as i know i couldnt explain as to why but that is what i see a lot of the other vets say i only recently got my tree to T5 and that was because i just chem train'd like 100 T4 chems with a tree untouched and finally unlocked T5 which probably wasn't worth it to be honest
i worked on a lot of things you said >:3
where are you now?
farther along i hope 
sure but i can't say i will be able to really help if i find anything i can help more with then i will throw what advice i can to ya
yes and no people argue statues aren't worth getting onyx until they hit lvl 100 but at the same time i would argue there is a reason to onyx before lvl 100 cause then you get more value out of your statue drops
no i dont wanna onyx rn tbh but i wanna save it to get more profit in the future
if you want to be optimal then yea storing crit statues is a good idea
yeah being optimal is a good idea honestly my pow statue is only lvl 7 def not my lowest statue but on the lower end no doubt
but if you still want to use deposit all, then lock them in your inventory and it wont use them
bet
yea mine is only 37, i havent done the quests that reward a lot of them been to lazy
this is mine
almost looking better than yours >:3?
i was gonna farm for that quest at beans after onyxing all my statues at least
not just almost a LOT of your statues are better than mine
i would do it but the 17 different statues on all my toons is annoying 
:p everything is a lot worse tho
there is split stack its less annoying than buying your monster mats for anvil though
not that bad trust me i am slowly but surely getting to finally get magma on another one of my characters
im still on chiz ๐
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toolbox doesnt let you share your account usually efficeiency does though a public account(at least not that i know of)
one sec gotta upload to ie then
https://terra_blade.idleonefficiency.com/
they added a share feature just like IE's btw :p
(i think)
yea you can make public profiles for IT now
did you upload in toolbox? cause i just checked where you get the link like right below it there is a button to upload your profile
yea i uploaded in toolbox and efficiency
just loaded for toolbox ill check out toolbox it is in more depth imo than effciency in some cases
yep but the alchemy bubbles are kinda hard to look at in IT
IT is way more information overload but once you learn to navigate it you'll most likely come to like it more then IE
Having said that I still use IE occasionally for some things
yeah thats so true
my biggest enemy rn is money for stamps 
mine is money for cooking lol
Multikill drop be like...
ill have to prep my eyes
always making the poor guy write a paragraph 
does vman have a talent for feasty statues (he does im dumb >:3)
I'm sorry gozu ๐
so.. i have heard of the 2 minutes afk claims.. what it does? I have doot so all gods unlocked, and i'm kinda seeing why of it, but can you explain?
2 min claims are useful for things with diminishing returns or for the equinox area
gene splicing for example has diminishing returns for more kills, so you get most genes per time with 2 min claims
so what is useful for the most? like i know about SB for bars, now for splicing.. what are other useful applications?
equinox for superchows
there really isnt many useful things to do for 2min afk claims
main use is the SB bars and then equinox
its mainly bars and equinox yea
like equinox materials you saying?
well you could do it for materials but just sample them
you can print the mats from equinox
can you please explain further? i'm not really grasping it, maybe i didn't reach that point yet xd
there is a mob that you can farm at equinox, if you open the afk menu it will tell you how many kph you are getting
its a ram but its a different ram than the other one so it counts as a superchow
ohhhhh i see, never saw that or heard about
so yea you can only claim a max of 2mins at equinox so its a horrible chow to farm
well, i didnt even finish to chow or zow, so that's not something i look forward to do lol
this guy
its hardly worth it
just something for people to do i guess
https://zamor90.idleonefficiency.com can you have a look at my rift skill thingy? Iร m now trying to push for cooking total lvl 500 but its a pain in the ass already..
Shall i go the others to 750 instead? that 7-8% extra printing is worth it?
getting cooking 500 is easy with doot
you just make everyone lvl 50 via the orb
this
i see, so i do abandon it and put everybody on gmush and 2min afk as i need the bars for troll set?
sure if you want
imo if you are leaving most of your toons in W4 from what i can see as lab slaves anyways and if you don't have doot i would suggest trying to get all your shrines in the W4 town to level them up getting as many levels for them as possible is good and what will increase your crystal spawn and DR by a lot right now and those in W4 try to have cheese on them to get that extra shrine charge even if it is kinda miniscule
World 1:
anvil good production i wish you the best in getting lugi brackets before the chip disappears by next week wednesday ๐ซก
forge is empty at the time of uploading try to keep it going as much as you can i see you have automation arm try to turn that on to keep bars smelting as much as you can
Stamps: this is a BIG hurting point in my opinion you have 15XX levels total in stamps and i personally believe that none of your stamps should be single digits outside of maybe multitool and that is only because of it being so expensive. I know the stamps say you only get X% of the stamp bonus because of the under-leveled stuff but the higher the stamp levels the higher the under-leveled bonus AND you have the star talent that gives you a bigger bonus to all your skilling stamps which will play a big role in getting a stronger overall account
World 2:
imo you should personally not have anyone in liquids at all right now just general cauldron stuff like unlocking all the bubbles then getting those skilling bubbles up more specifically in the order of
Big skilling bubble:
orange 4th/7th bubble
green 3rd/8th bubble
purple 4th bubble/8th bubble
i would hold a higher priority on the resource multidrop bubbles than the other ones right now try to get those bubbles to 185 or until you get 300% multi-drop this will be the biggest increase to your sample and the biggest boost to your account as of current
smaller skilling bubbles:
orange 3rd/5th/8th bubble
green 7th/18th bubble
purple 3rd/5th/7th/18th bubbles (this is why people say logs have the best print rates because it has 4 seperate bubbles supporting it's prints)
these bubbles I would do them when you have the spare resources when you can spare the afk hours for mostly as long as they are not monster material bubbles cause they play just as big if not bigger portion to your printing sample sizes
multiplicative bubbles
orange/green/purple 2nd/17th bubbles
i feel these bubbles are self explainitory but why not they multiply the bonuses for the relevent classes (2nd bubble) and for every character (17th bubble) which is a great thing but multiplying a lower number in my honest opinion is not worth multiplying a bigger number not saying you should not be prioratizing these bubbles just saying in my opinion you should be doing it last to get even more out of it
Vials:
work on unlocking those vials and getting them to green just for shaman its just a thing you kinda have to do load a full page of a characters bag shift+click all the items and you should be able to get 1-2 vials a day if you are lucky
woah thats some IE review
Sigils:
stay away from these for the most part for now 1-2 characters on sigils is ok and even then only on peapod(sigil charage speed to get that up over time) because sigils take forever you can max cauldrons and unlock all bubbles by the time you get the next couple sigils
World 3:
everyone is printing something which is good obviously with time each of these prints are going to go up i would suggest trying to get to making all your characters print once a month/once every two weeks cause i am lazy myself
I would personally say try not to atom your stuff for right now i would suggest waiting until you make about 10m per hour before you start atoming stuff raise the limit of your atom collider
STOP STEALING WORSHIP ON YOUR ES it is not worth it in the long run simple breakdown is:
higher worship level = better skull = more charge per day = more souls = stronger account and more feeding of souls to alchemy
World 4:
cooking:
cooking is mostly self explainitory as of current for cooking you want to go through a basic checklist
unlock recipe
get recipe to lvl 11 (dont be afraid to spend a couple ladles on a BB here because this will ultimately give your account a MAJOR boost)
get new recipe
this skill is mixed between luck and time but mostly time
breeding:
suggestion is to get to:
W1 borger
W2 monolithic
W3 eggshell(flashy is optional)
first setup is what got me to 200 arena just pay attention to the pet skill not pet and need about 10k for this
second setup at about 10k got me all the territories
this skill is also HIGHLY timegated i would suggest elephant god to hope to give your account a boost everywhere because most of what elephant god boosts is the time gated stuff
W5:
Sailing:
this is debatable do you want artifacts? or do you want exp? what do you want out of sailing as of right now is kinda a big question imo
usually exp is the answer because exp tends to also make it so that you get better artifacts+ push all your ships speeds up
my setup about 2 days ago was one ship to each island at least and everyone focusing on the farthest islands they can get to to get eldrich and when they do get the eldrich then stop only when all artifacts are elrich i still do that now but i focus on artifacts i have not found yet and fury because that is always important
Divinity:
if everyone is in lab why have bear swap everyone to goat to get double time with lab+divinity gain
usually people roll left side rolls until 100% is on the right side which i also reccommend doing unless you get lucky and win those 1% and like your luck good luck
Gaming:
self explainatory for the most part i believe
General account stuff:
get better cards when you can i suggest starting with easy resources and moving on to all the other important set/cards from there while sprinkling in boss cause easy resources and boss card sets are easy enough and will get enough longevity out of it to make it worthwhile for now and then after that focus on the AFK gains sets which are hard resources and W5 card set
(getting card DR cards would not hurt to help this process)
equipment is kinda bad all around mostly tools i am talking about getting those tools up as much as you can for the main skillers of those tools at least and if they are at max then i would suggest while keeping Vman ahead of the W1-3 skills specifically try to push their levels maybe spend a couple candies on them to get those levels up a little more with the proper skilling gear mostly the skilling boots from the crafting table for each toon
if you dont have doot then balloons work just as well
just really really slowly
dont worry its ok it is just me paying back to the community which has helped me so much i remember being in adeepta's shoes not too long ago myself
Disclaimer take all my advice with a grain of salt as i am notas end game as 90% of the active voices in this chat
Alr
Oh man this adeepta dude really sucks :p
Stealing worship on es?
I can't click up on the purple cauldron?
Yeah there is the w6 bubble. You unlocked it but isnโt in the game now
Where can i find the optimal cog layout for two squires?
Ah cool, thanks, so no point in clicking that one more atm. Focus on the others
You can already unlock all Bubbles for W6 and get them immediately upon release. So you could still have 1 Person in there for some attempts
Yeah, that's what I did lol
Working towards that +17 Arctis
hi xayah ๐
Especially my last 4 lab guys and my Bubo - DK came after I finished 200 GS 
.
Hi Rac ๐
besides the multi bubbles what other bubbles should i start wokring on?
https://jesusholder.idleonefficiency.com
how's ur day going
Where can I find the DR sheet?
thx
Some early levels into Larry (Yellow Cauldron Bubble 10). Even having a 5% chance for 2 Alchemy levels is a good investment
At what level should I stop? 150?
Ugh. I woke up and didn't do much yet
It's really cold here so my Depression acting up lately 
oh ๐ญ
155 and 1440 Big P is for +17 Arctis
There is something like 153 Div + 2000 something Big P for +17 Arctis
I'm not sure about the +16 Threshhold ๐
+17 is what people are currently working towards. +18 is out of reach for now - I think it got close to 190-200 Div levels
fucking hell
U need to reach 15.01 on that Tracker in IT. Arctis round up. This is my level 122 DK with 1440 Big P. So I think it's gonna be around 125-130
time to ancient everything b4 fury so i can insta ancient it (if i get it
) 
Yeah, I knew that arctis rounds up, thank you 
With 1k Big P it's gonna be 1-3 levels behind me - So not a big deal
dice obols at plat will fit into those hexagons squire right?
I would have to move shrines again tho 
Where do I get this one?
Trash Island
sad
kraken fish is pretty costly :p
What?
This is gonna take too long 
the stamp costs kraken fish from the last map in fishing and is pretty costly
its giving me like 7% dr rn and is costing 5+ lustre coin rn so it takes a while to get going ๐
like the difference between level 50 and 100 is about 4% if im not wrong
I just forgot to buy it I have the one for 300 already
doesnt uhh cattleprod drop that/
slay
It gives 0.1% per level pretty good
is it really..im holding off investing into that
Weekly Slush Miniboss 
nice
did you really get 600 keys from 2-8 slush? 
damn
And DK orb
farm up dk orb then kill the minibosses right
Yep
That's illegal
Where can i see the best tactic for weekly battle in w2 ?
Thank you โค๏ธ
It has been done, moved shrines again
xaya, is larry to 30 enough for now?
the best profit i've gotten from those cabals is the amount of frags they drop fr :p
its never enough 
but imo getting it to 50% should be a good point to stop for a little
If you can't get it higher it's fine
alrighties
Just having some percent in it is nice
How many royal urns from sluggma to get rare drop usually?
i think im print arnd 10k+ dementia ish rn
my nblb messed up 
Does claiming afk gains for mobs to push a portal every 20 minutes faster than every like hour
also, is there any other bubble i shd be focusing besides larry xaya?
when get gewd
love how my lvl 300+ bubo has less dmg than ur sb
does he?
my sb has catching gear and w3 bow tho 
.
ngl thats pretty bad
hows your samples?
gotta fix my alch cooking and stuff
er
not very food
good
500k logs?
not even CLOSE
@open lava is this faster
There is not a bubble to focus on. Rather upgrade all those bubbles that are still level 1
Even if it's just to level 10-15
yea im working on the multi % bubbles
no clue man
alright will do
thanks ^^
Xayayah?
That's me 
aw man poor luck cauldron
Does claiming mobs for portal pushing every 20 minutes faster than every hour
It's the exact same
@normal minnow id say to get some points into prowessary bubble it will likely 2/3X your samples ๐
yea ngl for a long time i had no one on luck cauldron cause i thought they were useless ๐
Alr
no idea why i thought that
oh actually it's probably cus i thought it wld be like warrior mage and archer bubble where it focuses that sole clas
hey i was at your level few months ago but a little pullback and focus on everything i ignored really helped me
GL to you too ๐ซก
Xaya, so I throw everyone except my bb and active char in the lab tube? Also, I would assume that I should do mindful on everyone, correct?
Who needs luck when you have skill 
thanks 
fr just get the 1 in 50m drop lol (i am not looking forward to that grind)
Mindful is the last one, right? -> Yes
im filling with skill but i still get no bubbles 
Yep
that last 5% is taunting me 
just round up and pretend it's 100
How to get the highest accuracy on what char and am i supposed to be getting 40 from shimer it seems like a lot
life of ignorance 
it's actually 100% it's just bugged
hopefully
my dmg is still lacking ๐ฆ
DK Skill + A lot of Shaquracy
Also not every shimmer island is supposed to give 40
Edit: After further inspection this is wrong. Archers get more
That the most ihave got i usr to average 12
doesnt mman have the highest acq in the game until archer gets good
Am I missing some Archer Skill? 
@normal minnow why
no but it just seems archers get a lot of acquaracy likely cos their shaq gets multiplied
and this is the cheapest bubble in game 
Oh yeah. You are totally right ๐
Archers do get more Accuracy then
sarcasm
?
No actually right

defense is just not needed unless active i mean like 1.5-2k is enough for any w5 maps if you are afk;ing just foodtrick your way out
They are also getting double statue effect from Bullseye, even tho it's not in the Statue Buff Talent
i see
i mean im like 50/50 on active and afk
im pushing citringes with measly 60 mil and 1600 defense rn but i just never die even with weeks of afk
when you go afk switch that out for afk% for something
also start on the dr defaecus grind citringe are hard to farm out
uhh like chaotic amarok
unless you can comfortably active in citringes their card is kinda useless as dr defeacus whos easier to farm out will provide more dmg :p
Almost forgot to max this on all chars 
i can active in citringes
look at that you already have it going that defense card might be holding you back
(if you can, craft a LOT of bullets and put it in the large potion slot so you can "protect" these important potions
it works like this
Normal food, yeah. Didn't know it affects potions too
if you have a bullet in the first slot the bullets will get consumed first
when afking ms potions change their condition to kill based so kills have a chance to consume it
bullets essentially delay this
i see
id suggest watching jrohrer's how food works afk if you want an indepth explanation
i think i kinda understand but will do
and also this is pretty bad ๐
if you invest into potions and equip that you can get more kph
when afking always equip all the skills you can since they directly affect kph
atleast thats what i do (i might be wrong :3)
yea i equip everything
yea i upgraded it cus i had nothing else to sink points into
you could invest that into potions
unless you havent uploaded and its an old pic potions will help in kph
OHHHH
that's what you meant by potions
honestly i forgot that existsed
yea i shd do that
yea sorry ๐
it doesnt but its helpful the invincibility is kinda useless ngl
why be dmg immune bit longer when you can just kill em and heal up 
true
needs fixing
all into chopping?
i did the same too and im trying to fix it now
scoli (helpful guy) has informed me dr>alch>mana is the way to bubo
i see
thats es's job
How do people get 20+ dr I have 13 and all the stuff is already really high?
this should be on dk :p dont get me wrong bubo dr is important but dk and es need it more
ill say if you can 1.work on samples (a good amount about 300-500k should be good if you're samples are very low small goals like 100k work)
2.work on obols (more dr always better
)
3.Dont ignore PO its rather useful
Miscellaneous: Keep upgrading stamps
@normal minnow
alright
cooking will keep passively getting better
also start getting pinion spurs ready chco chip drops on 28th feb i believe
If you farm obols get all the dice ones first
pop obols are the more priotized ones since they are easier to get
I should add only if you have choclate chip
yes shouldve said that however id still say t prio pops
es on giga right
thanks ^^
I'll be trying to hit 80 mil on my 150 es 
good luck
Think I'll get it if i wasn't as lazy to have chopping gear on my dmg build
how much do you have rn
About 70 with chopping gear
Yeah
me and my humble 15m dmg on my lvl 310 bubo
It's kinda funny to have chopping gear on cos like when i finally do switch to a misc dmg armour build it'll be fun to see the increase
Bubo tend to have lower numbers dw :p
Go get your dr first dmg can wait
What they said ^
At what point dk supposed to become better at farming (statues in particular) the es? Because no matter what i do es is too far ahead of everyone else 
hey guys, i was under the impression that i should not buy boost req in the P2W tab in alchemy, but the autoreviewer says that i should
Always
Why wouldn't you buy that literally more chances to get more bubbles?
i heard somewhere that i should not but i guess i might have misremembered
then ill buy it all now
Why he farms less then with fully the same setup? 
All statues that drop from crystal should be farmed by dk
are there any cards to drop from equinox res?
Cost reduction delays the time you get bubbles into Atom Range. What most people say is not upgrade actual cauldron cost reduction (this has nothing to do with the P2W Tab)
chocochip?
aight thanks
So I just used a 12hr time candy at copper ores, and got less than I do from a 2hr candy. Is that just an overflow issue?
Need good crystal rates a lil Dr and choco chip
damnit 
okey but that is a good buy?
Yes
xD
100%
P2W Tab 100% upgrade
That Cost Upgrade on the Cauldrons you don't want to max (I didn't know that)
okey thanks! i stopped with that one but maxed out all the others
116 orders down few more to go 
Have it. Dk clear time and respawn is just too low. To kill mobs as fast as es Who got consistent instant respawn from portal. I imagine to get ahead he needs statue and orb at level like 225+ and vman statue buff.
so close 
Nice
depends on what statue you trying to farm some maps favour dk more than others
I just trying to get a stack of 20k power on beans and all
oh ok! i have some levels in them but not much, lowest on 3 and highest on 50
whats your dr
~x6.5
And one es?
That is way too early for Statue farming
dont think you should be going for the onyx rn
I got 5500 statues in less than a week
I get 10k an hour ๐
i get 2k-5k of every w2 statue from crystal mobs in 6 hours
I have gotten the goat god and now can start lab/divinity farming, is it ok to put everyone into lab to farm lab/divinity like crazy for maybe 1 month or so or till i get all god or smthg is doing that bad to account peogression or? Is there a more benificial way to progress lab/divinity at higher lvl or whatnot
Start when you got 11x or more
Taking almost 4weeks for a slight dmg increase isnt worth it
I mean yes, but i have 25k crit rate statues aleready and i need them to be onyx
keep saving them
And all the other statues.
That is the way to do it. Have one person outside if you farm active and maybe work towards Vman with your Maestro
crit rate and not crit dmg?
Uh. Beholders.
crit rate statues are easy you can deposit them anytime
no point in wasting time for onyx rn
Taking 3 Weeks for 20k Power Statues is not what you should be doing. Take 2 weeks to upgrade your Dr and get 50k Power Statues in the third week
Maybe focus on dr and after that you can try for onyx statues
Arld have vman, but if one is farming active wouldnt that characterโs lab be low leveled
think ill onyx at like 100 levels 
Guys it seems you forgot how the game is played. But dr is not a thing you improve magically x3 in a week 
You can always go back to them, when your other Character is active farming
But if you wanna take a break for a months that is also fine 
Active Farming is just very efficient
i did it 
Below 10x dr you absolutely upgrade it by 3x in 2 weeks
You got Pops + Dice Obols all rerolled to +1 Dr?
You dont have to get it to 20x 10x is more than enough
yea?
to fix my bubo's post office
not necessarily
you can just always get more boxes ๐
i mean yea but i basically get 2/day
man this sucks
feasty is slow 
@proven iron
wont matter much tbh you can if you want to but my PO is still messed up from the points i put in utility box
10x will make the farm only 1 third less and i can realisticly get only x8 farming dice obols for another week
once you get choco decent dr and good crystal chance PO picks up fast like i think i got 30 pens just today from my 1st day of dk activing with a very bad dr and spawn chance
Input all the things and send a screenshot if you want I/We could point out some easy upgrades
will do
Can anyone tell me about bubble in alchemy because I pass lv.1000 but it doesnโt increase much
What bubble?
your uttility is better than mine rn so you need'nt reset it
Most bubbles scale logarithmically so at some point it doesnt increase much anymore
21st bubble of 3 color
You don't have them at lvl 1000 
yeah no way
At level 800 it +37 and level 900 it only +38
Show a screenshot?
this
I cannot send any picture in this discord
Why? Anyone know?
it scales like this:
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So I should stop?
probably
So would u say that at one point there will for sure be characters all sitting thr to gain divinity n lab exp?
another fail incoming 

Can anyone tell me how to send picture in this discord?
Whereโs the best place to farm dice obols
just send
W2 crystals at sandpots
I must have role?
sand pots with dk choco chip
Ty ty
At some point you want to upgrade every char to lvl ~155 Div and atleast lvl 75 in Lab
But this doesn't need to be at the same time ๐
Yeah you get a role after sending xy messages and then you can send screenshots
You already can send pictures
I think you just need to chill in this dc and talk for a while
Why 155 and why 75 can u explain
I cannot send because my button is grey it cannot press
Lab goes brrrrr
Huh, but you're copper bar 1
155 + 1440 Big P Bubble (you don't need to know what that is for now) gives you another talent level for Arctis God
And 75 so you can equip the ma amount of Lab Chips
Weird
I press X to doubt that.
Doubt 
math not mathing
Slam your head against the wall for 3-4 Weeks for your first 20k Power Statues then 
Dr simply doesnt work linearly
how
They don't know about the Statue Threshholds for W1-3 Crystals and that's fine ๐
Just wait for W6 then 
i dont have patience...
Understandable 
I got impatient and did the 200 GS grind - Imo way easier than 500 on everyone
I used candies for every quest item ๐
tbf a good few of the ones i have left are crystal drops
you even candied time thingys?
Oh no they finished at the same time as W1 Statues
That must have been a lot of candy
Xayayah can you send your ie I wanna feel bad
If you still kill things in one hit on Dk/Bubo yes - Mostly used active
How do you get so many w2 keys
I ran W2 Colos
But mk tiers also increase money
Morning everyone ๐
Hmm people told me it's worth and never doubted it. They are probably in different sources of money and therefore Prayer > MK TIer
Morning Icy ๐
I have 5more levels in the first combat stamp im satisfied xD
58.2k to 81.4k Plunderous and some alchemy done in t he past 2 days ๐
ok thx
i got tired of grinding my bm to 500 and just used 113 holy pearls to go ahead and have him done
morning
To answer your question with more Passion: I used 3000 Colo tickets, which I farmed through Post Office Order 6 to do alot of W2 Colosseums
went from 14.19xdr to 14.34x on my SB (that is purely just Damage/respawn right now)
Damn. Didn't think plunders would be that good from 58k to 81k
colo farming is.... fun
Meanwhile I can't even force myself to get 5 tickets from po6 a day
i think 110k is like most of the gain til i think 250k?
I did 100 Colo Tickets Daily. On new years I did 364 for nearly all the days in this year and when I finsihed my 200 GS I did another 300
Then I stopped for a week
so close... almost done with this damn event 
i cant wait til im done with GS200, i gotta farm some colo to get some more candy
I can hear michael jackson in this picture
When im done with gs200 the first thing I'll do is deposit my statues
only reason i dont do po6 is mouse movement distance
@teal lynx Why is your crab vial so low
Steam Link , Remote Desktop is so good for Ticket Clicking
True, though I would say w6 Is going to come out before I reach gs200
Doesn't matter too much for me and I focused on Honkers
I'm lazy and didn't wanna break my Greenstack
based
I would need to take out my Hunter -> Equip all my Equipment, Chips, Starsigns -> Go to W3 and probably break my Alchemy Node for 5x capacity -> Set Traps -> Go back unequip everything -> Repeat when I switch back to Honkers
Too much work ๐
That hurts
4 slab items locked away behind lava realising char 11
You can by the card pack with gems
Need to save for W6 - But yeah will do that after release
Sucks that 2 Quests (I think) gave W5 Card Packs 
Slab is just a massive slap in the face
Making you painfully aware that you are never enough
That hurts the most. 2 chances to buy it and I went "nah don't need it"
Same
Its so good
where do you get this info
I can get the left one from a treasur hunt
"10% dr isn't good enough"
2 Months later: F I need 10% dr to get another Statue threshhold 
mk influences money through the start talent, not multikill directly
yes
๐ซก
You know what hurts? Not buying fomo keychains 
Same 
the money prayer is a dif multiplier so its insanely strong, just to reassure u
werent u active at discord when they came around ? D:
only a mad person would recomend anyone to skip or think DR items from gem shop are not SSS tier
missing tells you the ones you can acuire no?
ok maybe not then
ive just unlocked w5 and divinity/gaming feels so slow. is there anything i can do
You could buy the stuff of gem shop. Great help. Even late.
mhhh i want to start getting shiny pets, shall i splice and upgrade them first to have more chances to get a shiny?
Shiny chances are pretty busted. Im sure many are already 100%, take a look.
You should have so many at 100% already
Rift chance by itself will be enough for most of them
And by the time your shinies are caught up to what you have unlocked the eye will do the rest
i see, so no need to splice, great
You have the yellow alchemy bubble unlocked right?
is it worth to use bottled wins, gaming fertilizers at start ?
In hindsight id have used all of mine at the very start.
The start is the slowest part. Then it ramps nicely before flatting out again. Use winds and fert early but read into what you're first goals are in the skills
yes and no
elaborate it
Its complicated. There is the best moment to use fertilizer at the start, but u need to understand what u are doing to maximize its gains
yes breeding is slow
my recomendation is to save it until u understand it more
Both fertilizers and bootled winds
I was really bad and wasn't into Dr at that point. The second time was totally my fault ๐
to get more from afk farming gmush, shall i go DR set or dmg? i just need the numbers more than the materials
Afk%, respawn%, dmg 
id go DR set for more gmush, seems op
:S
uneven numbers ๐ฆ
1...3....7 ๐ข
anybody here is actually like, scared of those odd number?
i cant stand odd number it just fk my brain up

Depends on the number ๐
whats a good number for plunderous kills?
1M
any multiple of 10
xD i'd say 80k is a good boost for real
It's more so skipping a good even number instead of getting an odd number 
58 to 81k i got a nice boost
100k -> 333k -> 1m
100k is a solid amount
alright thanks
but yeah ^^
long way to go there 
plunderous kills above 10k is something u farm when u have nothing else to do and gave up on the game
get 1m plunder like me ๐
lol maybe i should do that then
shouldn't***
yep
you got 1m plunder brookes?
yes
but i have heavily ignored my siege breakers
if u still havent maxed on almost everything else, shouldnt be farming plunderous (if u care about progressing fast)
congrats
thanks ๐
alright ty
get some small numbers like, 1k, 5k, 10k tops, its more than enough
im farming my last 2 eclipse, gotta get 200GS but i gotta farm colo for candies, and im lazy so i went for some plunderous for candy, because i wanted a lil dr boost hehe
yeah i am at like 1k now
okey ill do that
plunderous is oj the best for it
flat map, pick any u can one shot
like it is insane good ^^
30k plunderous in like a day and a half for me approx
maybe even 1 day in term of active horus?
30k 
not possible
no one can get over 1k plunderous per hour
It's 20-22k a day
i dont think its even possible to reach 1k
well sry mathed wrong
58.k to 81.5k
so a day and a half sounded right then
sometime i just forgot how long they been going for xD
i waste overnight on bubo, forgot to remove basic drop at wurm for water.... game crashed 3.5h in ๐ฆ
gimme the ability to play 24/7 plss, dont wanna keep loseing 10-12h of gameplay
and i just wanted to gain like 500 liquid for last atom click and i fell asleep
i mean i can do that til mid march
then im back into working
yeah i want some obols for the parts but if i forget to tune it then its lagging like crazy
900 - 1k kph Rasha said he got
900 seems about right
i think rashaken said he was getting 800/hr with the extra symbol levels
or that
i doubt that
i mean plunderous is a term of luck also
do you have the extra symbol levels?
being stronger doesnt make any big diff ?
what is that
exactly
only crystal spawn chance matters + a possible bad skill setup
extra levels to symbols
sb has too many skills
i cant remember where its from
what are some big snow balls? I got onyx a couple of days ago and it was sick, wonder if there are any more 
oh the equinox extra levels, yeah
crystal chance is very important
tought crystal couldnt get coin
what is that symbol skill thing you talking about
my divinity lvl is 170 also
Does skill set up for SB matter?
yes, he has too many skills with fast cooldown
i wouldnt say its any significative dif tho, unless u set it up insanely poorly
Do you only use 1 bar of skills?
Why every single one of those looks like this for me 
the last upgrade?
yeah its 900 tops, cant reach 1k
why would he include 1k if he couldnt hit it?
cause it coudl be 930?
cuz he didnt calculated properly
so 900-1k
yes he did
its a game limitation, cant rly reach that amount of plunderous per hour
wow what a scam
I think i've seen 3 of them in a row without a second skill.
can i see in it or ie what my buyable captains are?
had 778-776 somewhere after the millions
yes we handle so big numbers that we ignore everything below millions^^
30 chests ๐
Are balloons affected by +Xp stuff?
IT > Account > W5 > Sailing > Boats and Captains > Captain Shop
almost done 
how do you lvl up shiny? like you just put into fence yard?
Keep shiny pets in the fenceyard
and lvl up rate more or less? the more you put better it is? no difference in color?
finally

