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so stopping at 1Q on your dmg build would look nice ๐
I'm pushing for 100k sample ๐ข
If I had symbols it would be easy but Iโm too lazy for 200 GS
will probably be very easy when w6 comes out
thinking about it, but now pushing cons exp
Thatโs why Iโm waiting
yea im doing half quick slap half call me bob atm
Almost did it when lava dropped the date tho
143 get rekt noob
and what about those? got all at three at 600
Moooore
what date?
1k?
The February release
ah
Late Feb. W6
yea i read its late jan/early feb is what lava mentioned
I went for 2.35x
I'd rather Lava take his time
I just like pretty numbers
6 if you include yourself
No trapping/breeding?
i would like to pump his alchemy and cons, whats best strategy?
need to work on some other things but a quick optimized
Paitence ๐
There's not much you can "pump"
ahh, thats sucks
Whew thatโs with 3500 QS?
getting more speed statues will be a big increase
and feasty statues
Oh my...
I feel like thatโs a missing steak moment too
could be
Seems like some damage multi is missing
qs?
Quick slap
21k agi is quite high
oh yeah
Im at 150T with 400 QS
like i said, i have some other work to do lol
oh he might be missing the equinox dmg
True thatโs huge
thats a huge amount
I forget that it legit triples your dmg
what about page 3 stamps
equinox is maxed to where i can get it currently
u got them pumped?
other than the lab and 2 missing ones
yea it goes up to 23 or something i think
got it lol
them seems pretty good tho
sailings finished
hmmmm, i wonder what your missing. you should be much higher than that with 3k quick slap
if you have a moment https://fuswahn.idleonefficiency.com could see what im missing
well getting up your movement speed is a great way
Oh yeah heโs missing 400% MS
im at 1.1Q with 4.2k quickslap, at 1k MS
you can check mine https://teigrek.idleonefficiency.com
this is quite a large increase as well, 90% is 450
Base damage is best after you atom the multipliers
i would say statues and last bubble are probably great places to start to improve your dmg
Ahh also eclipses
i would like to get pinched, 
ohhhh true, yea those are huge
im working through eclipses now. almost finished with w3
Eclipses are just as strong as equinox

Im starting that one now 
2 more vials to max
nice yea maxing those will increase your dmg a lot 
blobs and td6?
Blobs and bunny
ah right duh ๐
farming those fuckers
i havent redone my trapping for months ๐
I just did last month to do trapping vials
nice
I did bar vials and was like now I have to finish all vials
this is mine lol
A lot better than mine were 
really?
i havent redone traps for probably 4 months
Like I bare minimumed it to get what I needed
oh ye i know, i remember showing mine compared to yours that was the last time i did trapping XD
My trapping stamps are still so bad 
im not even at 10k stamp lvls yet ๐
whats your goal after finishing 200green stacks and vials?
3B sample
and whats your cooking numbers?
so close
A few holy pearls should do it!
yea either bb or vman
Larry bubble to at least 1100 would be great
E41
whats the upside to 1100 rather than 500? +3 or +4?
E11 more than me ;o
Thatโs a lot of zeros
If you have doot, you only need to connect one character to Purrmep. The rest will be auto-linked, right?
could you send your idleoneff?
dam so close ๐
Itโs not updated
Cooking speed is legit just 3 things
Void plates atom bonus
Superchows
Meal level and vman talent level
max lvl is 60 for plates yea?
Iirc yes
Other than thereโs a couple small things like stamps and vial
yea my egg is lvl 60 was wondering if i was missing something
Chances to get +3 yes
He is getting clapped so I can click my quick slap
he playin idleon
There used to be some kind of trick that you could do by dividing your food in two slots or something, which would make sure you wouldn't end up with no food whilest afking back in the day
Was that fixed?
Is that fair?
There's NNN now
No, he's on the right side, implying he got backstabbed
do you guys observe some sanity lose from clicking each hour?
What's sanity?
Yeah thatโs why I do it like every 2 hours and only every other day
fair point
What does NNN mean?
Nutrient Neural Network
Autoarm
oh wait i was thinking of the wrong think my bad
Well I have a friend that recently started idleon, and he's pushing W3 but running out of food
And I recall there was some kind of trick where you could divide your active foodslots by using two pieces of food or something
tell them to increase their food bag is a good way
Ah, tell him
It will be a long, enduring grind
which would make you not run out of food
I observe sanity loss from having to bubo to replenish my T1 water since bi-hourly clicks and alchemy shop are devouring it constantly
#1183482341474172938 Actually, give them this guide
The trick youโre talking about is to prevent a specific food from being used I believe, not to stop all food from running out
If all food is gonna run out no way to stop it
Besides what aaaa said about auto arm
That was a bug for a bit, iirc
Void food bags if craftable are rather easy to make and have a good amount of space
got my bubo farmin water all time to upgrade those numbers
Not for early W3 ๐คฃ
Dementia is good enough, only requires gmeatpies
finished all my chopping cards today too ๐
Even the useless ones 
Such dedication
I don't even consider the speed ones useless
its ruby tho
they're useful for off-skilling characters without food
Next up: Manual grind califish
Speed is useless imo since I hit cap with just the one basic food
And I have unlimited basic food
moving food to them is effort tho 
No ram?
no just supremely lazy
You got me there
oooh kraken is almost done too
Noice. I'm only at 40ish p/hr on first liquid iirc, but str bubble is eating that much every 2

are you using this one?
Nah it's off, want my IE?
sure
get this one to 90%
you can use this toolhttps://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com
ok w2 and w3 statues are done what should be my next one
W4
so keep up the good work
i would atom roadkill to 1k then other things
or whatever the 90% point is
I wouldn't atom Roadkill before Larry
hi xaya ๐
Hi Rac ๐
good point
hi AAAAAA ๐
lotto skills?
Ello!
imo its a waste
this is love
you can get a huge amout of points from skills on vman
https://jesusholder.idleonefficiency.com
alch is slowly getting better 
larry is one of the most important bubbles to focus early on
it speeds up all your other alch bubbles, so its well worth it
For sailing captains end game is rare chest % better than loot value?
no
go for loot value if you can
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your goal is to have about 60m speed on all boats. You do this with a mix of speed/loot initially, then pure loot later on
do you guys have multiple dr sets or you just switching around?
obols?
y
I have two, one for each page of obols because moving between them sucks
i only have one obol set
yea thats probably the best move
i dont put my obols on the last page that often
so its whatever
so you just switching allright
yea
i was thinking of gettin a second one for sb afk
are you only at 90% chance to get plus 2 lvls?
if your are 90% your focus should be to get at least 100% its a waste to not have it
90% is not even close to enough
collider doesn't interact with larry
when does larry give 100%
501
510 from memory
damn
id say bring larry to a minimum of 1k before doing anything else
i did 510, then waited for a while until my atom gain was much better then pushed to 1100
yeah I did the same
bro your talking about nblb
go re-read what larry does. It's nothing to do with NBLB
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Basically with larry at 501 every time you click a bubble, be it atoms or resources, it always gains 2 levels
how do i increase further my skill lvl on vman? Like i'm at 87 and now struggling, 1 hour afk gives like 1% exp ._.
That mareep is still so cute
It's time to max that
larry is easy to get extra lvls from printing aswell
yeah it's a rough position to be in
thank you
you need better samples for more clicks, but levelling samples is slow because low larry
i mean yea at the point its probably not worth it, if you can only use 3 out of however many atom clicks you have
its a hard one at that point
I have like 26 cant even use all on the stat bubbles
if its expensive you do as much as you can then move to something cheap
sounds like you need to focus a bit on prints ๐
ah so your prints seem really bad then i guess
Been working on getting more atoms myself, itโs a real grind. Just keep leveling Larry, prowessary, and the bubbles that help chopping gains and mining gains specifically.
prowess caps at 2 you're probably wasting your atoms
the biggest gain to samples early on is getting 300% multi hit
and then i guess boost food is super good as well
wtf thats way more than enough
True. Getting onyx feasty will help a ton
how can you only get 2 atom lvls a day on larry with that?
are you not running x6 prints?
wow the real w5 chat
Yeah thatโs way more than enough.
its been something today thats for sure
totally
what happened
oh, there was a saga about people saying luck is the reason their acc isnt great
I am running 1x prints and 2x for copper
you should be running x6 prints, pretty much all the time on your ES
I forgot to switch gods its way to tidious
Keep your ES perma linked to arctis then use the talent to swap to what you need (hare)
My Es isnt printing logs too
and i tried telling people that no, your acc is bad because you dont know how to play the game ๐. idk maybe im wrong but from my experience there isnt a lot of things that luck will gatekeep you from.
why not?
what else would you print with your mages?
Sand
wtf why?
salts
just active farm sand on es for like 2 hours and you will greenstack it
Recommendations for what to be leveling?
Yeah I have like 100mil at the moment I am just to lazy to resample
- Print it with Vman
- Grind some out with ES in a few hours
Sustaining salts isn't much of a thing anymore due to how much easier it is to get
looks like your not at 300% multi hit for chopping? and then getting the 2nd bubble to 450 for 90% is nice to do
and you wonder why your atom gain is bad
xD
Hocus choppis?
this one
cant have good atoms if u dont play the game!
I wanted to wait until I get ancient/eldrich fury but Im not getting it
i mean if you want ancient just buy it with gems ๐
now we gotta wait to w6 to sample, then we gotta wait until we get enough w6 bonuses to sample, then we might as well wait for w7 to sample
But the โsecond one to 450โ is referring to hoccus choppis above it right?
I'm already waiting until W7
these ones i mean
Im already waiting till I get everything else done
they improve most of your other alch bubbles, and are cheap to atom
Ohhh gotcha. Hype. Iโm having same problem as Onur, not enough atoms for them to be helpful yet
but yea skilling bubbles are always a great thing to atom
hocus chopus is probably better to focus on over the 2nd bubbles if it isnt at 90% yet
lol hoccus choppus is at like 28% for me so yeah
although i think 90% is lvl 900
Yeah Iโm working on that one specifically but those stupid nails are so slow to make
hocus is probably stronger overall but the class talents are good for overall account health (better damage etc too) so it really comes down to the player what order to do things in
And they require you to be on constantly to deposit them
yea nails are horrible, hocus choppus should always be your bargin tag use
untill you can atom it
I hate getting these nails man. I have all 10 characters making them
this is a great way to make them faster
Dr D poops can be afk
not exactly sure how to get exuinox one if thats possi ble
give hammer hammer some attnetion and its gonna be easy
All of them are at >450k production too. Been slowly leveling hammer time to help but thatโs slow too
oh shit good call out
Equinox can only be AFK'd but you're limited to 2 minutes afk at once (and can trigger this at 1min due to how it's setup)
Rift can also be AFK
My hammer time is 182. Slowly getting it up too. Itโs a long process to fix your prints ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
if you've got bad material carry cap, you can always chuck some anvil points into capacity to make things more managable when hammering the early mats
yeah rift i was saving for last because i fucked up and my rift is mostly done so i wasnt multikilling it yet
equinox i look at afk and its trying to collect mats, not any sort of kills
Boops has to be active for obvious reasons and doot map gmush has to be active
rift is still fairly easy w/o MK
yeah surprisingly so, map is massive
i mean the later rift lvls you dont have MK
max out the kpk talent
KPK talent, prayer, afk%, respawn speed. You get a surprising amount of kills even without MK
yeah its not too bad, almost finished the rest still didnt hit the next tier but 100 hours is free
hmm what to stack next. Time thingies or w4 leaves?
leaves does get me pearlers which I do need...
surely leaves are easier?
leaves are in fact way easier
so boops can be plunderous?
Yup
good to know
you either wanna do it on BB for the one day maybe eventual super chow, or just SB it for most gains on average
i do it on bb
or even the regular chow ๐
I won't get 200 stacks before w6 but I'm close enough now where it won't be hard to clean them off once we have it
halfway there 
60% here
im waiting for w6 to finish that
im only at 141 atm ๐
176, was about 150 last week
not bad
w6 will add probably close to 20 easy to get green stacks
that's my thoughts too. New mobs, ores/logs/bugs is pretty much 20
plus any shop stuff
yea i was only taking into account mob mats and skilling
12 drops, 2 shops, 2 logs, 2 bugs and hopefully an ore and bar = 20
thats fair ๐
I barely wanna do the existing bars
the bars arent easy, look at how hard dreadlo is lol
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up until lustre is fairly easy
dreadlo is a nightmare though
yeah I can do it, clicking candy will make my fingy hurt tho
working on 1b coppers for vial atm
lustre is a pain already dont want to think about starfire and dreadlo :D
exactly 
the worst part about dreadlo is the urge to clickt he vial
I don't think I could stop myself
cant you just set up gmush kills and wait 2 minutes?
that isn't any worse
its still annoying but 1h candies are a waste
same amount of clicking just takes more time ๐
i mean sure but atleast you wont waste candies
gmush candies are never a waste
you spend candies for spores?
its a waste for forge
spend candies for money
what else would you spend your candies on once you're lategame
gmush is the one thing that keeps on giving
omw to get the dough 
i see gimped nullo production ๐
logs for bubble?
how do you have so long connections to the jewells and boxes? they are for me so short, but between the players long af
regretfully I was lazy last time I sampled and don't have void ore
and now I don't wanna resample ๐ข
spend your candies there ๐
yeah, that was exactly why I hadn't
I'll probably just wait and greenstack the bars I can make
watch W6 revolve around nullo
I have enough nullo to fully kit out 10 new characters if needs be
so I'm not /too/ concerned
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=connection
u might be missing some connection range
Search every bonus in Idleon!
but what about the skill progression ๐
lab levels make a big difference, plus there is a jewel and a lab node to improve it
plus nullo being broken means I can level giant vials ๐
Is the only way to get more ladles (aside from equipment) the stamp?
efficiency and afk gains sources
ladle stamp, multitool stamp, general skillign eff, general afk%
how to boost it more? xD
lab levels, this is also a nice increase
it largely comes down to being able to reach the booster nodes
You'll need more lab level and bonuses to reach them, though
thank you, what gods should i use ? all char with blue bears?
30%afk gains is pretty interesting
Goat is ideal for what you need. Level lab and divinity at the same time
130/155 
maybe but i doing other stuff, so i cant be with all chars on lab
Yep, that's the sacrifice you make
If you don't lvl lab, you can't have better lab lol
you either go into lab to increase your gains later, or you come out to get gains now.
why aiming for 155?
16.01 arctis I'd assume
155 makes it so i can get +17 from arctis with ~1440 big p
ok, i will give a try
i only have one at 155 
iirc its 154 or 153 with 1440 bigP
I've only seen ppl say 155
Daily rant about Nuggets. 1700 Nugs today and highest I've seen today was a 19m nug 
i think 153 was where you needed over 2k in big p
hmm
what happen at lvl 155?
i got none....
read
i only have one because, that was my lab slave for a few months ๐
yeah, whats a big p? xD
here daln
i thought it was under 155
bubble
SNAP
what i hears was 155 was 1140 or something big P
wtf!
why you guys at the exact same 
bro how 
I get your bubble levels now thanks
lol that is so funny
the daily crystal doesn't give exp ?
it does?
crystals don't give exp if you take too long to kill them (besides crystal island)
Not
oh
ah yea i always forget about that
i take too long to kill em
it does
Crystals spawned daily give reduced xp, regardless of insta kill or not
This effects choco chip as well
is reduced xp 0 xp?
This same bug is present when first loading a map and getting a crystal off the initial spawns
reading is hard i guess
0% is essentially null xp since i cant measure it
i got some w5 crystal from daily and it give 1k exp each lmao
Oh boy, potentially 1xp is certainly the same as 1b xp! My point is right!
do you have proof that they give no xp? cause i have never noticed that, nor seen anyone say it either
They don't cause it's not true
yea i dont think its true either
Crystals are crystals
It could be just base xp with no mods, but it is not enough for me to tell
yea idk where people are getting this from lol
Normal crystal spawns give me ~0.50% of a lvl, so getting a 0.00% drop from a crystal implies next to 0 xp
i've seen some crystals give very low exp but idk how that happend though
There is that decay if you take too long to kill them like sakori said
Crystals off initial spawns and daily crystals reward negligible xp
this will take forever to kill 

im at the point where my xp is to high, so i need multiple crystals to get 0.1% of a lvl. so i cant exactly test it
sounds like a load of bs
I guess the idea would be to just wait until daily reset, kill one mob (forcing a spawn) and killing one crystal
doesn't matter the % you can see the exp bottom left
crystals spawned by choco chip give same exp
true forgot about that 
Choc chip crystals off of daily crystals mirror the xp of the initial spawn bug
I wouldn't be surprised if it happens tbh, this is a lava game ๐
Just need one other person to test it to prove the point ive seen
if the choco chip spawns a crystal mob that has taken a long time to kill and decayed in xp it mirros that decayed xp
I oneshot all mobs, its not time to kill
will golden stopwatch do it?
would do but with w6 so close that's a poor use of a golden
just make sure you've spent your atoms and bought your pickle
they gave me 22B xp
at wurms
Did you refresh the instance? I.e. cloud save and enter again with fresh mobs?
i refreshed the map used gold stopwatch, ran back in killed one mob it spawned a crystal killed another mob it spawend a crystal
and so and so on till i had no more daily crystals
Interesting, ill do it with my reset mobs later today
You're both kind of right in a way
same exp I get from w4 crystals ๐ I do have silly grind time tho
did some time on BB and was enough to not use pearl ๐
cloud save right?
The bug is cloud save based and that can happen at any time
its on like server cloudsave
16%+ more DR 
So you can spawn your daily crystals and then the server can update and now your crystals are useless
higher than 20k?
Even though your damage isnt an issue
didnt prepare myself tgotta refarm so dice
Thats just one of the fun features of the game
exactly 20k, actually, which is kinda weird!"
That's it then, pisses me off lol
lol
active exp cards maybe?
I am using DK tho so probably orb shenanigans
they do multiply which i just found out recently
And as for the daily reset crystals it happens very frequently on those
wait so whats this crystal bug so i understand it? ive never heard of a crystal bug just that the xp they give decays if you take time to kill it
Because your game tries to update on daily resets
Hi brook
heyooo
So the chance of those crystal in particular bugging out is higher than any normally spawned crystal chosen at random
the crystals basically lose all their stats on cloud save (No items, no exp, no acc requirements, no damage)
so the crystals loose all their xp when the game updates or something like that?
Yeah thats the same bug. People associate it with time but its actually based on the cloud save
oh thats interesting
It just gets associated with time because the longer you take to kill it the more time there is for the crystal to bug out
I actually figured out the crystals stop hurting you long before I did the lack of rewards
10 days left for pickle vial 
ah thanks for the clarification ๐
thought it was just a kindness "I know you suck so here's free crystal"
Yeah and if you watch your IE/IT on daily reset you'll notice that they almost always update pretty quickly
And thats because the game tries to update on your daily reset
Which is why guaranteed crystal spawns each day are more prone to this happening
kinda lame
The first 1m stack of statues. It is going to be such a hard hard to break turning in statues every time I'm in w1 town
Well its really only an issue if you happen to be active farming right on your reset
i guess ive never noticed it before because i kill them quickly after reset
is it better to start booking sharpened axe or guilded sword at this point?
im never not active farming 
I'm usually at work at reset so I'd literally never ntoice
I never notice anyway because theres never not crystals on the screen nowadays anyway
gilded sword is better than axe
Crystal chance goes brrr
Sword should give you much higher returns at this point in the game
very true
whats your bubo chance at?
I'd assume contact is a 1/25-er
he might be at 24 lol
probably 24 ๐
christ
yea lol
this is mine
I really need to give my shrines some love
wheres this at?
crystal brothers 
it
soon
4.16% is with 24 shrine
yea but where on it xD

23 shrine is 4.05%
character
Lava needs to tread carefully with w6. If he adds any more crystal chance we're doomed ๐
this is mine
oh, didn't realise I'd reached 26
my stamp is probably the most lacking
nah shrine
lacking
It seems small but its really not. Any bit of crystal spawn is very impactful
stamp is only 5 more for max
No sleeping on the stamp
thats what happens when you farm plunder mobs for 2 months and forget about the game
its not worse than using over 60k hours of candy without knowing it affected shrines

but isnt 250 the max for what we can reach now, reasonable?
๐ฎ i didnt know that
Yeah anyone with 260 is a very suspicious individual
did you see i hit this btw?
hugeeeeeee
that would be alot of mason jar levels lol
ill probably never reach that
not worth at all 
the bit gains tho
why not? its drop rate
drop rate is always worth
but the 1% damage increase ๐
1m just takes way to long
Yeah I think I'm almost at 2b of the 2.6b cap needed with 132 jar and 185 smithing level lol
yeah but its for the best stats in the game
im glad i did it either way ๐
what would u be doing in those 2 months? farming GT like an diot?
statues probably
drop rate is SSS tier
my guy is weak 
If i hadn't started my greenstack adventure I'd have probably started on SB farm too
its 24.2%
thats huge
yea i mean the whole reason i did was because my dr felt low so plunder was a huge increase
keep in mind that's multi with other DR sources. 20 DR plus that bonus becomes 24.84
i dont even level jars stamp also
i might be able to hit 25x dr on my DK but im only getting 13.5% from the arcade bonus so maybe not
stuck at 120 for too long
what is your level and do you have doot/arctis on him?
maybe I should stop neglecting this stamp 
yes
mine is 112 
112 too small
scoli says get it to 124
isnt it that most boost foods cap out early? especially with statues
im farming on bubo now cuz i want this
yeah but my glass shard amount is even smaller 
its better to just candy glass shard instead of waasting time
It's more for stuff like movespeed or worship food
how many shards pr candy would be alright?
maybe, 8?-10?
i never tested
i only candy batteries and pearls
its the best way, doesnt take too many candies and its cheap
oh yeah ofcourse not when afk
If you're really minmaxing the candy it'd probably be vman
maybe vman isbetter, who knows
I would candy it on SB
for bars yeah, that a good idea
Vman would be best for pure DR but SB still has a DR talent too while also getting bars
ah, yep, bars. SB.
gotta start on those marble bars sooner or later eh
Brave 
I'll have my marble gstack done for W6 
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When farming gems from bosses, is it better to stick with normal version of the boss, or higher difficulties give more chance to drop gems ?
Probably 
huge, gratssss
if you're gem hungry go normal but expect to go insane
boss farming is chill
Now time for 3bil 
im on 377/380 and 343/346 right now, so still got a long time before im finished
rebind your keyboard to 1 button as a mouse click, move mouse to retry and watcha movie while clicking
with mouse it canbe annoying
I'd rather just play xbox tho ๐
oh D: dont have videogames. only a nintendo 64
i play super mario 64 every now and then there, i like speedrunning it
check out #server-rules rule 4
but thanks 
it doesnt count as scripting
both are bannable either way
Even discussing it can be a no-no. Still better to ask than assume
im stupid and i cant read
We know, you play idleon ๐

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its a rite of passage
when will lava release pvp battles?
never
never, hopefully
why not? would be fun
sounds dumb
then all of the QS simps would actually be rewarded
dmg will always be king
nah there would need to be an equalizer thing like dungeons
it would be dumb then
yeah, then the whole point of pushing stats gets lost
yeah
some people think quick slap is gonna be nerfed
Actually I have really good ping lets add one-shot pvp ๐
camp would be op
add a pvp cardgame ๐ฎ
s> omok table
its trend doing that in games now
that i could see, like the new chess style skill
is a pink captain with 18% loot value and 18% cloud discover rate decent?
if its better than your others captains
cloud is largely worthless, otherwise compare to your captains
as circ said, every captain better than your worst is decent
until u finish artifacts remember that speed is the best
speed > everything else
fair enough, it is better than my worst by a fair amount
A healthy mix of speed/loot tends to go far too, as you have the loot to upgrade your base speed
wait... w5 have been out for over a year.... time flyes by, huh
hmm
though a lot of time was put into extra features: Shinies, islands, rift, equinox after w5 came out
the longer gap is expected
kinda worth ? god system is very very good and complex
unlocking mechanic could be slightly better, but still, the system itself is insnely good
i havent even been playing for a year
didnt mention companions 
brings a ton of combinations and possibilities to adequate each playstyle
are we expecting that sailing gets additional content? im kinda glad i dont have to look at it anymore
It's certainly possible
unless you have doot....
hopefuly pvp battles on sailing. Join a queue and its your boat vs your enemy
extra map? New artifact tier?
shhhhhhh, lets pretend he doesnt exist
I'd rather not, but it's rare for a skill ot get completely abandoned
even breeding got new stuff in w5
w5 pets when 
๐ฆ those Ks of obol fragment gone for 1 sparkling dice
hasnt lab been kinda just on its own since release?
life is hard
pls no pvp i suck at that i can only do something if my enemy doesnt fight back 
Is there a way to see gem upgrades last three for chest sluggo
fair point well made. I'd still consider stuff like arctis a lab buff tho
new artifact tier means more fury 
equinox saved lab. +1 pixel allowed u to get 1st bonuses with 1 less char
extra +25 
no pls, i dopnt want to book talents anymore
I never could get it to work with the +1, needed +2
it took a while to book everything
but our libarys is soo fast now, they need to get some of them books out
extra tier means i have to set up a timer again 
It can be done with 1 but it feels like theres only 1 exact spot that reaches and if youre off by a pixel it wont connect lol
the point is that I dont want to click books anymore kkkkkkkk
yeah its pixel perfect
gotta buy a razor mouse to achieve such precision
I run the game on quite low resolution so I probably couldn't input the pixel it needed
Can u get minerowls with natural trap
natural traps grant 0 critters
drop DPI to 400 (as if u were in a fps game) and get that pixel !
What does give
I did manage it with 1 but then just did a 2nd point anyway for simplicity
it's an exp trap
but extra aura thiccness
and vman buffs, cc and so many good things 
like, i want more talent levels, but added to our total u know? feel like it would be good
Because I have been struggling getting them
245 as max book but new bonuses give more levels
keep[ your naturals equipped but use cardboard boxes for now, you can pick what trap type to use when placing
but i feel like its a little silly to have 245 as "max level" and then have 322 talents
the 8/20 hr cardboard boxes give okay critters for minimal effort
fair point
I did it on 1200 
Can I use beast hunter for getting them?
I'm guessing we can't reach that worthless jewel even with max equinox
probably, too far away
we cant?
Pretty sure you can get all of them
where is a degen that maxed that out to test?
still a while off being able to test
Granted the last orange jewel takes I believe it was 8 or 9 points
I'm connected to everything in the lab no-issue
And its only like 1% damage so not really worth it lol
more dmg is always worth, gotta get that number up
yeah it's awfully far
will do
gotta go a lil funky
neat
if it wouldnt be asking too much, try to remember to attempt connecting everytime u upgrade
Now I kinda want to not ever upgrade the lab bonus just on principle alone because that setup offends my eyes
Bubo over by Sapphire Rombol and using that as a connection hub
If I had Doot, it would look a lot nicer
Need a few more levels in equinox but that does indeed look possible
flynnie print showed its possible
It's like, just pixels at a time above Fungi
yeah I'm about 4 pixels off best I can tell, so 2-3 equinox levels should get me it
Lmao love the char name
I dream of the 1-week notice every night
Hahaha Iโm pretty hype for w6. My first time being around for a new world release
It's a lot of fun! I did W4 & W5 launch
if u believe in yourself u can do it
Lowkey was thinking of taking the day off and checking it out leisurely, I got unlimited PTO anyway ๐
I believe 
I killed troll the day before w5 came out - so wasn't really "ready" for w5
probably stronger than the current lot who candy to w5, but it was rough
Hey Wanted to wish everyone an amazing day!!! and say that i love y'all! bringing lot of happiness and playfulness in the game ^^
I think Iโm โreadyโ dmg wise, maybe consider myself really ready once vman can do nm kruk
i never liked a game that much since this one and the discord!
I was on clammies when W5 launched and candied to troll and killed him same day 
vman kruk is a prettygood bar to aim for tbh. The divine scarf is huge gains for the account as a whole
I'm grinding levels for Kruk scarves rn
Yea I canโt wait to get that, only got 2 chars at 450+ though. I need to get the teeth for everyone too, got like 4 so far I think
such massive gains from it, esp with the chip to double the misc bonus of the pendant slot
scarf only needs 425 - it's 450 for the trophy ๐
idk if I should go for 20k next
higher u go, less efficient it gets
unfortunately so
with w6 so close I can't imagine there's much need to grind to 20k
10k u need 20k for 2x, then 40k for 2x, then 80k, and so on
I wonder what the plateau point for lvling will be for w6, 500 ish? I noticed I started plateauing around 400-410 ish at w5. Granted I donโt have the best class xp buffs
higher than that
if u are not doing anything on bubo, no point not clicking there (if it doesnt bother u also)
we can hit 500 now ๐
500 is the plateau for w5. And that's only for the meh classes.
probably 600
on the meh classes
Haha yea but thatโs with concentrated lvling no? Or is that pretty attainable once you are decently buffed w class xp?
i have a 35k GT and my bubbo struggles a lot to lvl up past 560
True true
Assuming w6 doesnt give them a nice new elite boost
500's not too bad once you get the GT up yeah
good poiunt
even on the terrible classes it takes less than a week
frogleg to wode boards, how long do you think itll take me to GS them all?
Bet gotcha, didnโt realize that damn I need to lvl gt more
a good strat for leveling everyone is just throwing them at wurms with offline gains, u will be surprised by how good that is
Whatโs your kph?
tbh BB should get get respawn speed based on chow, and BM should get uwu CD decrease
my bm and BB went from 430 to 486 just from afk time
but it works
Holy pearls 
lower than expected. not sure atm, everyone is labvinity,or just divinity top off lol
u can if u believe in yourself and in the power of jesus christ
I want doot for the stat gains, I need doot to be a proper completionist
This was definitely an above average hour but damn this is beautiful 
i need doot so i can be lazy on linking
was expecting more :/
what's your eff?
Oh I put cannisters on at frogs. Bumped me up to 32.5k/hr
I dont know what I did wrong at frogs but I could never get over like 29k
Ty, I now have a goal for the 1bil sample
Even with cannisters
Dootless gains
Damn doot gives DR now 
You know Doot is the only thing that is holding midgamers back from becoming endgamers
I'll be free one day
does the omniphau bonus afk skil gain also counts towards afk time?
asking because of the hibernating gaming achievement from w4
@teal lynx i had to scroll up about 500 times to see whether you replied, luckily i remembered what time i got up.. haha ๐ i won't start pinging you like this though, unless there's an emergency of whatever kind, very grateful for all the help you've provided and the least i'd want to is to be annoying ๐
a lot of top players have uploaded, but not updated their rankings. but yeah not everyone has uploaded to it
its a player made site
breeding skill lvl, bm talent, and rarity of eggs
genes are only for breeding chance of next pet
that reminds me, I should use my eggs
finally
im missing something big i think AHAHA
I just noticed the IT leaderboards seem to be using the first sample you have on a resource rather than your highest sample
what stamp you going for?
crystallin
yea got those 3 on atm cap at384m
Pog
Is your inventory full 
LOOOOL that it my inv is full
lmao
How to get more divinity points a hour?
Void bag 
๐ Mind if I take a few of those?
Artifacts, divinities, and divinity styles
how high % exp can you get on grey/yellow/red cogs?
im asking if its worth trying to get all kinds
that was it ahah
scales with ur level of construction
take all
ahahha for slab
Noone knows it
Even the trophy? ๐
it gets harder and harder for each % tho
eventually you'll get to the point where you can do 1 (or more) purple cogs a second and the grey-red cogs aren't worth your time
I've seen 250%
yea ahah even the divine one XD too much stuff
D:
How do i get a captain?
IT has a cog stat calc
right hand side of w5 town
Walk to the right of the W5 docks
So i have to be lvl 15 to get another one?
I'd prefer the update to be intriguing
*Unlock a new sailor slot
lava was supposed to release w6 while I had no internet. Dunno what he's playing at
need to plan
You can buy them every 6 hours? ๐
How 'bout we swap accounts? :3
I'm good thanks ๐
I am very impatient, I want to get out of this oxygen deprived world
heya guys ๐ im in need of some help:
id love to get the "perfect trade deal" achievement (get the 7.77 in a trade) done, but i'm a bit clueless on how to approach this one the smart way. any easy suggestions and tips on how to get that one done asap?
much love ๐ค
fuck sake, missed out on killroy again, how hard can it be to do it with a weeks time -_--
There is a way to plan for this but I'm too stupid rn to type it up properly. I leave it to the others ๐
its all luck. you can check sites to see next trade offers, but ive never seen a 777 (or close)
i believe the fact that we had some silence now is a good sign
You'll have to wait paitently
its coming this weekend 
Letโs cope together!
i found a spreadsheet thats is lingering around somewhere, but i dont understand how to work my way through it ๐
have a stack of chests at the dock waiting with the resource u need for the trade, check trade value, if its too high then click 1 trade and reload map to check again, repeat. if you go too low, open a chest, reload map, repeat
Look at IT, find a deal in the nearish future. Start building up that resource. When the deal comes see how much you need. If close and you need more collect a ship and refresh map, if less make a trade, refresh map. Rinse and repeat until complete
@mortal yew COME OUT! You think I can't read chinese? >;3
the trade is based on how much of the resource you have stored so you can manipulate the numbers a little bit by getting more/less and refreshing the map. look on idleon toolbox sailing trades to see when you could be close to having a good trade
Are beans the best spot to farm golden sandwhiches?
Beans good
its the best dk crystal map so yeah
Damn I found a guy who is pretty good at TD
Beans are the best spot for DK, crystal drops, ES might be better, since gnomwich is a rare drop
What does that say?
Yang A-A
Fineee I'll try to use my brain
Trade deals will either be at the cost of 20% of your loot or the value ship 1 has - whichever is higher.
what you want to do is use idleon toolbox to see what trades are coming up, and what your current trade amount would be. Say you're on 760 or something instead of 777
Send all your ships to that island and wait until the trade comes up
Once the trade is up, open one chest, leave map, check trader. The amount will have slightly gone up. If it's below 777, repeat this action.
If you get unluck and you end up on like 779, trade once to reduce your loot, and reset the map, then try again
Eventually you'll hit 77
Okay Ill stick with beans then. Just realized I had been slacking on my golden food stamp
Sheep two sound effects
^ refer to this message
Ah, ok
๐
its a crystal drop so ES is not better
that sounds tedious but i appreciate you typing it out for me, aswell as all the others that helped, thank you!
yeah it sucks, but is well worth doing
Ah
Oh alright 
Totally understandable. Around that time I see most messages
looks like pancake has some competition
the fact that you have to voluntarily upload your profile to the leaderboards and these guys just out themselves like this willingly always baffles me
He has some great statues too
I know right? Total idiots.
He's perma-stuck midgame
Pancake has nothing on this guy. His con is pretty crazy
pancake 
@tall horizonmay i ask you a question ? youre a mod right? is there any rules about chatting about snapshotting stuff here ?
@signal osprey
holy shit
That was 3 questions, think you went past the limit ๐
he has level 201 library and my 0-20 is only 8 mins slower
i wanna @ contract now too
my statues are around 290 and i cant even imagine how long it would take to reach that
You may ask me questions. Yes, I am a mod. Snapshotting is fine.
you on geli ?
I wonder if I'm on the leaderboard >;3
@rugged lichen
sweet, thanks ๐ allways felt like i was operating somewhat in a grey zone when talking about it / telling noobies about it
@cerulean hemlock i swere im about to candy this thing
Day41
gl
it take so long
It'll take a week at most
too long
@rugged lichen You fight contract, you fight me! >:D

