#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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honestly... yeah that's how it is
16-21 wont take 4 months
more like 3
Uh that's what math says, 2.5mins per cycle, 70097 cycles needed from wiki
if you have omni god thats like 2-3weeks probably
yes that was what I realized, can't hear any music when every sound is set to off
No doot and no omni yet, ppl are labbing with goat so that's probably a good couple of weeks away
i have omni i wouldn't evne know which character to put that on
i feel like it's a loss either way
unfortunately Mitski is probably better than Idleon music for the next 30 hours of active bubo
And idk if i should link everyone in lab to omni instead of goat, my div levels arent great either
its great
my div levels are 18-25 lol
you need more tranqi 
sure but between having to keep up the 6 bears for lab 1 cat there 1 mockingbirg for the minor link where would i even put it 
You need all God's
how i currently run gods
You could link a BB cooking to omni tho
Yeah i figured i should unlock omni and purrmep first before going for div lvl push or linking ppl to omni
This man needs help
Yeah my bb is farming chows rn
this man is active 24/7 farming statues
he'll probably go back to lvling div or lab though rather than cooking
TODAY i finish the onyx statue grind
what do you want
dunno what's better to do with him rn but ill figure it out when hes done chowing
can just put some people into lab and put omni om them
You did just show me about sound change
finished lab
??????
there is no finish lab 😛
everyone is lvl 75, i'am never going back 
cause you need div lvls bro
Using Arctis for the rest of your life 
I aint said shit about music for 4 days what are you talking about
no not for the rest... remember the 4 year pity timer for Doot!
i dont understand 💀
I've noticed too in many days ago
therre is light at the end of the tunnel 😢
my highest lab lvl is 240 lol
music is hard to make when people all are raging for a faster w6 release 😉
my condolensces
Yes I am aware that if I turn all sounds off I will not hear sounds
whats your highest?
Living that Lab Life - (I don't understand why people run all Arctis, you are actively making the game harder for yourself
)
oh dam im so close
Just play most games muted like me
I wasn't asking why I don't hear sounds, I was sharing my realization that I don't hear sounds because I turned them off 💀
If anyone doesn't know the W1 Crystal kill sound, I recommend doing a quick 20 sec of Beans with your DK
i dont remember it tbh, is it good?
am i the only one that muted the game in the first 5 seconds of playing it and never turned it back on again? 
I mean it's okay. But I can't describe the feeling of killing 10 in a row
i muted it pretty quickly
No lol

i watch youtube or music on the side so yea
Honestly just seeing crystals constantly die and respawn is like heroin
this works x2 if on both squire?
Especially when shockwave kills crystals then spawns more crystals that also get killed by shockwave
i put all on lab , and 1 pushing w5, now i gain much less gaming bits why
Less evolutions on plants?
Different Plants?
Snail reset?
Wrong Preset and the talent is not active on anyone?
even if rock active i should aim at least for 3 evolutions or what
now im grinding for organic box
just to be sure... if you got 2 DK does the skill from the first or second count? or is it just the higher one? asking because of BB talent only counting the second one
The higher one counts
It depends on your goal. If you want to unlock Plants you pick them whenever they are ready and hit the "Research Button"
I've only managed to give three song recs from my 10 hour sad girl playlist 
but I'm gonna get 1k GT tonight, my first 1k bubble
i have all 4 evo
Unlocking Plants is not the same as 4 Evos
Ah you got all plants. Then you wanna aim for Tier 5 Chems - Need to unlock them in Superbits
I'm sure someone can link the Chem Chain guide
now we're getting somewhere
Yay I got beefy for real prayer
i wish mine cost 75 water 😦
if only 
holf f it's that cheap at lv 1000
for now i just wait for 8green bits
is it supposed to cost more at 1k?
my alch isn't good, I kinda just imagine this is a personal achievement but not really anything special tbh
no it's just that it's been a long time since alot of people saw or remember how cheap it was when they didn't have any levels into it
kk that makes more sense
5 song recs for my poor divorcing friend and also taught her about the worst band ever 
Nocturne No. 2 Op. 9 in E-flat 
It won't help my friend but it's likely to be the most beautiful piece of music I listen to tonight so thank you
you're welcome
Chopin pieces are so wonderful, it feels like as much as he lets every note breathe and have its own space he also combines them in such a gentle and natural way
Alot of pianists have very different interpretations of the sheet music as well, which adds another layer on top
Ah yeah, I'm used to getting more excited by Liszt/Rachmaninoff pieces but the chopin pieces are the only ones that move me to tears
Thank you, hearing this piece was a very special gift for me
ayyyyyy
just got doot
what shall i do with divinities now? Doesnàt matter who i link people with anymore?
Need to keep one on purm
Other than that doesn’t matter
One question about gaming. I can't buy the superbit on the bottom left "plant evo" . Why not? I have 87 green bits and the price is 28 green bits.
send screenshot
Oh 🤣
2B
Lava preparing you for the Slime Chess Skill in W6 
damn need that slime :/
xaya i need some help with obols :p
so i finished my es's set and i understand you only need 2 sets 1 for dk and 1 for es right
What to do focus on after divinity in w5?
I have one for vman as well
You only need one. 2+ is for comfort
should i bother getting my pops to gold or just get dice?
Dice
do not under any circumstance create gold pops
Pop Obols go to sqaure shape at gold and are worse than Dice Obols
ig ill get 2 sets 1 for es and 1 for dk primarily when i want to do collo
you should be farming with DK more than you do on your ES anyhow
alr so pops stay at silver and here forth i upgrade dice to more and more tiers?
have you rerolled all your silver pops to 4%?
yeah i have this on my es rn to get more pops
no i rolled the bronze's to 3
That means silver is 4%
result is the same i think
so your silver pops are 4%?
yea
then that's a yes to my question
alr mb >.<
yep
shift this off to bubo or something? 
those obols scare me.
you're not the only one :p
But i guess its all for the slab 🫡
i see dmg i put 
true my slab is pretty ok for where i am
I need to get to 1000 somehow
im at 850 😔
where do i farm dice btw
W2 Crystals - Most people do Sand Pots for the extra glass shards
Mason Jar* 
yeah 😅
garbage island bribes are costly
i played bm active for the first time in all my years
to get to wave 81 on goblin needless to say i failed :>
oh no..
oh my i havent done stamps for 41 days 
jonson huh
Do shiny pets have a level cap?
I heard someone say 20. But it's not possible to reach it in a reasonable time rn
Xayayayayah
can i speed up breeding exp 40 is still 12 levels away 😓
That's me
Unlocking new Pets, using Eggs, Upgrading the nothing upgrade in Breeding and probably some card
I think theres a stamp? I dont recall
ig ill look into it it still is pretty slo
stamp is quite expensive
Can some1 help me with my next goal in this game https://rafn.idleonefficiency.com
10k levels already ?
more molti loggo
nope i just dont like leveling stamps XD
think fixing nblb is pretty useful
@simple edge 1.More molti loggo
2.Fixing refinery
3.Fixing nblb to hit bubbles that cost non printable items
That's still good
also fix your spice gain setups 😓

what do you mean fixing refinery im working on ranking Red and Green after this guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/w14zae/infinite_salt_refinery_errors_fixed/
starting with red and green and then upgrading the others so green and red always are highest?
uh yea
dont understand the spice setups if i use foager instead of whale i get less spice gain
So If I can leave up my shiny pets to Lv6/ 7 for example, the benefits will also be scaled up? 200 days seems quite a lot 😱
should be a guide in pins in w4 chat
also for concrete answers you'd better off asking someone else im just saying whst others might say so im not accurate
about what average pet power do you need for suggma spice unlock?
and is it the same strategy as previous spices?
mono/looter/refiller thatis
I hope you are using more than 3 pets, but yeah the same comp as before
You can technically get it with 20k pets (maybe less) it will just take some time with lower pets
i've seen that line a couple times xaya: "time the first shield".. i took for granted that it was the mimics ability but that doesnt really do more than damage does it?
so what are you timing? :I
The Shield gives the pet it currently is over a 90% (?) chance to not take damage
85% chance. So when the attack would hit the first pet you want the shield to be over them
And then u hope it doesn't hit the 15% chance
not getting any cards even with es 
DR doesn't affect gem drops from bosses right? Cuz it's a merit thing not loottable
Dr doesn't affect it 
i wanna platify genie but im not getting sh8
Genie is a harder card iirc. Same for the Alien Log in the same map. But let me check really quick
oh alr :p
my alien logs is already gold but i need 160 for plat which i wont do rn
The W4 Cards take 5x longer than W3 Cards
1/50k chance for one card. Same for W5 Cards 1/50k
Even when it's not 100% recommended. I used both cardifiers on Genie 😅
I absolutely hate farming cards
since we're on the topic of farming cards, when shd i start
I candies most of my Cards. Going for the 1B Skull gives you 4 Star cards everywhere (and W1-3 even 5 Star Cards)
You can farm cards whenever you like. I would say the Crystal Cards and Dr Cards are the only cards you should really focus on farming - The rest you will get over time or when you need stuff like DMG for rift you could also farm them
ahhh
where do I get these fairies are they at the end of world 5?...
W4 - Clammies
now it wont feel completely random
wait they are w4...?
yep
w4 clammies
how the fuck did I miss that 
and here j thinking I can't craft it yet cause I haven't reached those fairies..
Crafting the next worlds Anvil Tab always requires materials from the previous world 
wait fuck that means I need to push my bow guy into w4
you're up early today :3
:0
isnt your usual sleeping hours way past ..
hmmm, candying oceanman statues for onyx at 64/h worth?
all splicers are es's job right
Ehh... it may have been a bit fucked lately
I had 3 weeks of holidays from work and I start again on monday...
should prolly get back to a healthy schedule again :p
healthy being 8 am ye sure
I work from 1pm till 11 pm mon-friday
so I generally sleep around 6 am sometimes a bit later
but with these holidays I've been slacking getting addicted to games as usual
64/h??? 
the gambling never ends 
This means getting the recipe for the Slicer, right?
Getting the Recipe = ES
Splicing = Mostly SB
nooooo wtffffff
yea getting the recipe
so I bought gems.. and they didn't get send so I mailed lava.. and got a reply just now.. saying I would get my gems.. and I just finished doing all my chars I got a new pet 1/308 chance and... lava reset my account by 5 or so mins now I lost the pet and I have to redo all of my shit and I lost the ancient artifact I just got

Sadge
Atleast you got your Gems 
wait it rollbacked 5 hours
I lost 5 hours worth of active ES farming for portals aaaaa
because I don't get enough gems for colo to keep my gambling addiction up
Gamble more 🔥
A small part of my brain remembers there being some sort of calculator to show how much money/mats needed for stamp
But i can't find it anywhere
Am i hallucinating
Wiki
Not like this, but like type a level and it'll shit it out
No that's how much money needed to level up from 1 level to another
Wiki doesn't take into consideration all of the Reductions
you forgot to mention the reset chems you just unlocked and the level 25 snail you just managed to get
Pretty sure it shows the materials too but doesn't show reductions
Like, not this
It was in IT and they removed that
It got updated and not sure if you can still calculate that stuff somehow
Oh damn, that sucks, welp I'll just have to rely on this then from IE for every 3 levels
Going over the Stamps in IT will atleast give you the same info as IE does 😅
Your max capacity is too low maybe?
w5
capacity or storage 😅
Any other stamp that shows you more stuff?
Oh i guess so
.
Pancake - World 6 Gatekeeper - Horror of the Divines - God of Building 
It depends on eitehr carry cap or storage ig
Also, ie and it shows carry cap very differently, it shows 2.09, ie shows 2.96 
yesterday i did goblin tf 200 in honor of pancake.
Man i love the inconsistencies between these two
i never used IE or IT for stamps capacity cuz its always weird kkkkkkk
IT
Kek, i don't care either i just wanna see how much it'll take for the next few levels
yeah, i check gold and the cost with %
I wish ha..
cattle prods quest is manually picking up monster ratings?
afk also works
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning!
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood night
🫡 Sleep well
mornin
while you were asleep i got to 1 mil 🥳
1mil prints?
Blessed by Omniphau this morning
Refinery on both character claims
omniphau our lord and saviour 
Oh shoot, it is full stamp discount day and I made 0 effort to prep
Let's see what I can do
what
The 3rd liquid, to be able to buy bargain tags
is bargain tag locked or something
Yep
you need the third liquid to buy it
i dont get it are the liq cauldrons like money/level locked?
Level
Cauldrons are unlocked by Alchemy levels, yes
they are? damn i forgot :p
The 2nd tab doesn't unlock until level 35
have a character whose name starts with s?
ive got one if you need adeepta
do you have pandAAAAAAh char name?
oh yeah i do in a few mins when i finish my last 100 ratings
cant remember exactly what to type though
you have a guy with p? or s
probably
Nope
😛
take the carrot 
dont feed him
also howd you alr get bunni
🤷 I git gud
no necklace yet 
did you get wave 50 on froz td
I just got 90% charge, doing it now

wanheda, how many kills?
i think ill skip upgrading this one
360 today on chaotic
that was demoralizing to hear 😄
Im only at 16 dr maybe thats why
so i HAVE to complete all 3 to get to scims but thats so hard specifically the td one
wheres the guy who has a mouse as his pic?
wait only 24 tot refinery rank?
i just kinda let it run in the background the whole time i was pushing lol
im making it so it runs infinitely

You can do that and still always let red/green level up
how is it working for u?
i remember that when i was progressing i would always have trouble with salts, never enough
my main mess up is red salt
how is it possible to mess up the base salt?
i did that accidentally for a while
i upgraded the others too much and didnt focus red salt enough its now rank 9 trying to get to 11 asap
You literally cannot mess up red, just let it refine
so u messed up the other salts!
not red
uh yeah ig 😓
my blue and orange are the same level i think :p
by definition
bitch how
oh damn, thats bad
yea 😓
the hell...
ur done just place blue on 10% ref and wait until orange is above lol
one day it will fix itself (if u level up accordingly)
tremor makes up for suggma maccie and mr brightside
XD
It takes the % of multikill and not the actual skulls - Since there were no Eclipse skulls when the Achievement was made
Despite the achievement description, the actual requirement is reaching a total % mk and Eclipse grants 20%
how much do u guys think it will increase by my eff increased by 8m i had 10m yesterday now its 18.4m rn
@quiet viper need you now :3
you got a char starting with p?
adeepta where at?
im at skull 2 world 2 town
roger rabbit
2 iirc
thanks
help me do the quest
just say 1 star,game sucks!
u have done s?
come to w4 town server peanut 9
roger
Got to wave 20, died
The little idiot kept on living on 70 hp
my oh my
@whole slate
ok
heh
What's your mining speed at?
33 min
Fix that ^
62 is the max and it's quite important o_o
Adeepta, where's that buget guide?
this is the sample from yesterday on the left
ill get it for you
very funni how it works out
Doing wave 41 with very low-level towers. Boulder 15, Party 4, Kraken 1. I also have the worship points bonus from salt lick at level 5, but this strategy works even without it.
00:00 Wave 1-10
02:50 Wave 11-20
07:50 Wave 21-30
12:40 Wave 31-40
16:15 Wave 41
17:28 Tower Levels
oh, this one.
it works :p
Yo does anyone know the actual chance for the unending loot search talent to upgrade sailing chests?
dont use it :>
Hey I remember there being a spreadsheet kind of thingy for what talents to level up for each class, subclass, etc for optimal dps and farming but I cant find it anymore and ig accidentally unbookmarked it at some point and I've been gone for a month. Could someone link it to me?
Hmm.
Optimal dps?
I'll ask Pancake
https://idleontoolbox.com/tools/builds
Check out this. There you can look at Classes and some builds :3
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
Wait mb
@cyan shuttle Do you mind sharing where this spreadsheet is? 😛
I just looked at the only build I made myself
- A 1 in 18 Chance or something 😅
#1183482341474172938 I have a bit of info on builds here
Great for people level 150~
Some older classes have actual builds 
Now I'm confused if it helps or not
Hmm only SB and Vman don't have builds
TvT
I remember there being a separate spreadsheet just for classes, what to pick, builds, etc but then again its been a month so my memory could be just making it up :')
OhHH THAT ONE
Honestly I remember hearing something about idleontoolbox being outdated T-T
It's in the guide I linked
how is your sb so good 
That was Idleon Companion
Companion? You mean Efficiency? 
Welp just upgraded some stamps. Went from 4600 to 6160
Ohhh
why my sb so bad 
thank youu T-T
Because that's what noobs do 😛
you're a noob 
😅 I recommend checking the guide out, if you want, I post multiple links in there
You don't have 245 Talent levels. Have not had a good chance to farm statues. No Magma Gear
This is basically everything you need
i will hold a red panda hostage 
I willll TvT
awwww
magma gear's the sample gear right 
lets see how much I can improve my samples
ohk does it have a sizable impact on sb'd dmg sb is the most dmging class right
good increase
Magma is not the best sampling gear on a Siege Breaker (assuming they're printing Bugs)
It gives all stat% -> More Stats = More Damage
SB gets a lot of free damage from Potions so it gets massive damage quickly
DK might at some point get more damage due to refinerey levels getting faster and faster, but I'm nowhere near that and can't tell you more
oh alr
Not sure how they interact with feasty statue, but I would say yes
Especially at your point, where feasty doesn't give 1000+%
Alr it all comes back to feasty 
you cant escape feasty sorry
Any alch sources that gives ms
Base Total Agi (but that's not that much)
not that I can think of. Agi does but not much
So more feasty farming .yay..
what is a killroy run?
That skull guy in W2 Town
Bro, don't spam in every single chat.
Child head back to your own chat #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 :3
To get back to more serious W5 Topics. This is my daily complaint about my nugget not upgrading
I should have had a 75% by now 
Should I use my 100K ladles on anything but cabbage or nah
Use it on 10 Different meals. All the speed meals, cabbage, cannoli, maybe turkey and some other I don't remember
If you wanna waste them go ahead 😅
I went all in on Double Cherries 😅 Math hard
I also did it with my lab half disconnected
Truly, I am the best
So how should I spread them then, is it like 2 of each ?
I see those images a lot in here, where are they made? Is this Idleon menu I still haven't found or some kind of addon?
I believe the intent is to attempt to get up to 1 level on each. Meals that need more ladles to level should be placed in the earlier, faster kitchens.
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Something like this, but flip them. So meal on first kitchen goes to last
This is IdleOn Toolbox
!it
https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
Ah, cool thanks. Something to read on this rainy afternoon!
As the Link says. A 3rd party site, that is the same as IdleOn Efficiency, but actually gets updates
If I have 2 SB, which drop rate bonus will it use?
It wants you to insert your Email and Password, but they don't actually get your stuff. It just takes date from Lava (The Dev of this Game)
The one with the highest level
sweet thats perfect tyvm
Does it have to be exactly 100K use or can it be higher?
100k exact I believe
I don't think anyone has been brave enough to test over 100k 
Use 100k exactly to be safe. If you have more to spend, use those after 
From the challenge description I would say it's exactly 100k
Sweet got it, now I can finally use my equinox stuff on upgrades
A 'howto' somewhere on the IT discord would be not so bad a suggestion either I think.. What if you play using Steam?
You still need an Email/Password to play IdleOn using Steam, right?
I used my Gmail account - On Steam
Uh, no idea actually (ugh I feel old). Steam automaticly logs in and then Idleon 'just opens' 😄
Most serious w5 topic is why am I not good yet 😔
just dont use it much 18-20 hr claims usually give me multiple gilded chests tho
I don't even know what e-mail I've used on Steam, i'll just test a few. It's not that i have tens of mailadresses anyway
At the beginning it asked me for a login method I believe. And yeah now it "automatically" logs me in when using Steam
Poetic you can remove w5 biggest noob in a few days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=3qbZGt5dthX8_gMe&t=720&v=ycNdheSQ06M&feature=youtu.be time to do this T-T
Doing wave 41 with very low-level towers. Boulder 15, Party 4, Kraken 1. I also have the worship points bonus from salt lick at level 5, but this strategy works even without it.
00:00 Wave 1-10
02:50 Wave 11-20
07:50 Wave 21-30
12:40 Wave 31-40
16:15 Wave 41
17:28 Tower Levels
Our friendly neighborhood panda will reach w5 soon 
dark red too.-.
It should be one of those methods 😅
Okay great, thank you
First attem[t: not succesful 😄
What obols should I put on everyone? I only have DR obols on Mman, ES and DK, should I put them on everyone?
1 for each sampling skill (Choppin, Mining, Catchin, Fishing), 1 for Construction, 1 for Trappin and Worship.
any1 here good with math and graphs like the ones for non linear bubbles?
Lost me at non-linear 
What are you trying to see? I may know of a resource to point you at
what kind of material is this and how can i get it?
I know what it means 😛 I just meant I'm not good / not helpful
W5 Enemy 8
ooh thank you
Depends on which bubble some hit the cap way to fast others actually take a while
so what i want to know mainly is how to get the expression for the graph if given some point the curve passes
like an f(x) expression so i can calculare the given value at any time
how can i control my ES's second link?
The ones place digit controls which deity you are linked to
Excel has a line of best fit function you could try to play with. you feed it known points and it tries to guess
that's not helpful, i did it on accident the first time xD
its written on your screen tho, just pay attention
u level up, god changes, thats it
Can you just fuck off if you're not going to be helpful/nice 🙄
hmm yeah that might be an option. tho i believe its possible to calculate by had to get the exact expression the given graph would have. hence get exact numbers. but im not sure
I agree with scoli
anyways its not super important it was more something i wanted to know and play with
To many players have been given harmful advice by un helpful people
Yeah, I getcha. Sorry I ca't help more. Wish I knew as well
no worries, thanks for the help
thats standard for advices here anyway

cant expect most playes to understand how the game areas actualy work and whats important at specific points of the game, so they end up telling what they think its right
Damn I'm lazy to even setup my chars to do anything i need a break 
I'm actually cackling. We're talking about YOU giving bad advice + being a jerk.
like the most recent harmful advice i've seen some people giving is to level bubbles to specific levels, like all to 50-100 or something like that. When u should never level bubbles based on capacity or levels until u reach atom leveling
u always level bubbles based on item acquiring rate/cost. if u want to progress properly i mean
Any bets on how easy/hard the w6 bubbles will be to lvl vs how useful they are?
half good, half filler, and the best will have difficult items
Most of the W5 bubbles were poopy to level until atom range 😦
last w6 bubble is gonna be dr pr 250 mainstat 
I would never candy Gmush again
9x bleach logs for the rest of my days
Like the orange juice one was worthless
after i have done all eclipses should I just put back all my chars back on lab to get other bonuses? except bean farmer and gmush archers
true endgame is hourly clicking orange juice bubble
Sad thing is that even if the OJ bubble was actually farmable it still just isnt even a good bonus
just to be clear if my shaman is my second character i get f. all right?
"What do you mean u dont need 5000 talent points?"
if it gave star talent points it'd have my attention honestly
just for the TP postage
might be Efficiency pr 250 mainstat were getting in w6, then DR pr 250 coming in w7
I hope we dont get a DR per 250 mainstat
No. This takes the position of your Bubo in Lab. Doesn't matter when you created them
its only for BM and BB
If that bubble ever exists I'm going to candy my bubble 1's so damn high
BB is fine. I farm pearlers on him to level shrines with candy
thats not gonna happen, lava will keep you in check with shadowban
Gold food effect for the gold cheese 
but dont lab order depend on your characters order? do i just get my bubo out and then back in?
If I get DR then idc about the shadow ban lol
This order. If it's on the right side, everyone to the left gets skill xp
If it's on the left side, everyone on the right gets line width
i hope we get more lab stuff soon
OMG i have been doing this wrong forever. how am i this dumb
its ok 
Damn imagine not having doot, couldnt be me
Ok, I've reset my password and got IT to work. Found some characters with unspent points etc. already.. Question regarding your shovel; how do you increase your minimum roll? Yours is 289K-458M.. My minimum is 100. Just 100. Not even 100k
I've told scoli before if trading is implemented I would give a doot for the auto review bot
Lost like 12 weapon power though >.<
Afternoon all
Sakori house update: we own a fridge and washing machine now
My partner is unwell so packing has been going slowly
There is an upgrade in Equinox that increases your min and max per nugget without an upgrade 😅
Alright chat its time to crowd source some ideas. I need a wild goal to finish up W5
Grats on getting those appliances! those are major milestones
Quick slap 
This is the exact upgrade. It's kinda late into equinox
Hope your partner feels better soon
Ugh, equinox again. Equinox is hard if you're only playing this game for a few months
Call me ash 2000?
My call me ash is like 7k
Ah
I also know you you have name I guess and QS would be a complete waste 😄
equinox is supposed to be hard
Call me pope 10k?
not linear
Yes, it wasn't meant as a complaint. I like how this game still has challenging places after 6months of quite active play
how high is ur call me bob? push to 20k
Plus I feel like bubble levels are kinda meh as far as crazy goals go because we can just atom whatever we want
I wonder how much candy it would take for level 10 pearler vial 🤔
1b stack basically everything farmable
Greenstack the golden peanuts
If anyone can do it, it is you
Just in case some new feature introduces red stacks
i think good setup is around 8 or 9 pearls per hour
Maybe I can gstack marble bars 
Honestly depending on how hard some bubbles are to get to 5 (think late material sailing) cost bubble to get some bubbles to nblb early isn't a terrible idea
I'd suggest Gstack on w5 gold Sammy but that probably takes even longer
How big is the boost obol gives on skilling prints? I'm at about 100mil prints for copper and oak and wondering howmuch I'm missing out on by ignoring my obols for so long.
It probably is longer tbh
comparins skiling obols vs base stats the dif is not that big
Pretty decently big. Depending on where you're at, maybe 10-25%
the only obol set I've had for a long time is basically drop rate. never bothered getting other obol sets until a few weeks ago when I started grinding some.
Yeah it kinda depends on your setup whether or not skilling or stat obols will be better but having at least one of them will make a pretty solid boost
maybe a silly question but if I have a pickaxe on everyone should I put strength on it or whatever characters stat its on? same with other tools
what class is ideal for the 1b Deathnote kills on every monster type? is it SB?
Main stat for that character
thanks
to be honest the only 2 important obol sets (game changer) are drop rate and construction. the other ones are good but not game changer (not talking about sparkle, or the higher tiers, since they are boss drops
specifically if you were to do what you'd been thinkin (str for a pickaxe) it'd technically help with mining but we don't really care about that, we only care about what the class specialises in.
so wis on a pick on mage will mean better chopping, which is what you really want.
Finally broke 100 glass shards in my overnight farm
thanks a lot!
see this is what I thought for a long time so I ignored others. But I'm struggling on atoms lately.
they wont help u
And then just swap them onto who ever needs them?
obols setup vs no obol setups can increase your samples by probably 5-10% top (not talking about boss obol drops)
main problem with the skilling obols is getting them 😄
so ifu are struggling, its not 5% that will solve your problem
yeah, thats why i stick with base stats rerolled. The dif betweeen skilling vs base stats is hardly 2-3% in eff
Ikr
Atm I'm saving up
hmm guess it's just sucking it up and using all my atoms every day on sample bubbles then at this point.
I should go spend some of my atoms, rn was saving up for a 2nd rank in the bookshelf atom
ge tthose bubbles to 90-95% capacity
I'm at 85% with most I think
if u dont hourly click it might take longer, but it will work out in the end anyway.
yeah I'm fine taking it a bit slower, I'm already quite far into the game at this point and w6 coming soon for big gains. And hourly clicking is just too much for me xD
yeah
i dont hourly click and am doing fine, slowly leveling with atoms. My samples are already at 2,4B
lol got LL from a boss
hmm howmuch do skill levels play into prints at this point? I kinda stopped levelling skills after awhile and wondering if I should get back to levelling skills after I get my characters up to 450.
only the core talents matter
oh skill level, they are very very important
u going from like 80 chopping to 140 will give u an insane amount of eff
cuz of stamps efficiency lvl restriction
ah okay I guess that's my main struggle point then, I just stopped bothering after I got max level tools and most of rift bonusses
level also just gives a straight up % eff increase right?
oh yeah same. i was very surprised when i realized that leveling skill gave an insane amount of eff
hmmm maybe? i cant even check anymore but its probably something very very small
someone would need to create a new acc without stamps and check kkkkkk
Levels do give an eff bonus and its actually pretty decent
do u know how much is that without any stamp unlocked? a guess
I believe its a .5% multi per level
decent
Aren't most of the restricted stamps that increase eff the base eff ones? Feels like going from 150 base mining eff to 155 base mining eff is a drop in the bucket compared to like, 4500 eff from multitool
I'd have thought most of the gains actually come from the level eff compared to the stamp gains
A lot of it is the level gains but the stamp gains are still something
hm guess someone would need to check the code. Check what the formula is
Plus fishing has a stamp for % eff per level and mining has a talent for tool power per 10 levels too
huh.
the stamp you get from trash island
torturing myself
I meant huh as, interesting XD
ah lol nvm then
so u meant, "oho"
Should've said, "Peculiar"
At least Equinox helped with TD speed
it didnt bro
u need to check the facts
Before equinox a max push TD would take around 3h-4h tops. Now it can go up to 10hours

lava's tricked us
I bet the whole problem would be solved by the next patch if we forced lava to play 10h TD.
Unfortunately that wont ever happen
Lava plays TD on stream sometimes
And he uses fire ball towers
So he wont ever be able to survive 10 hours
"TDs now cap at Wave 150" 
give him pancakes guide, and force him to follow it for 10 hours
Can someone explain how plunderous mobs work? I will sit there on active SB for an hour and get like 10 plunderous mob kills. Is it supposed to be that annoyingly slow?
like crystals. 1 in 40 chance to spawn, and if you have the vman bonus, you spawn one for 25 coins every time you reach 100 coins.
Something like that
Geez. So 100k is gonna take forever
There is a reason lava said it
in fact it was so bad lava buffed how it works with vman
15 Tab 4 Points 
Its also pretty map dependent though. If youre getting 10 per hour you are on an awful map
having a high crystal spawn chance also helps
as crystals drop coins
that then can spawn more plunderous mobs
Crystal is 1 in 40 right now. Which map should I do this on?
dang, goldric portraits.... 900k overnight 😦
OJ or wurms
they are going to be a pain
I just candied all the portraits
i might do it later on
Kilroy balls 
Hope your drop rate one is maxed
It is
I would save balls for forge cap after DR
I know 2,000 kills is going to be map dependent, am I on the right track with my choices? more time? more respawn?
true.
I've been saving for it and only did wis because I had a ton of extra balls. Still at 18k after maxing wis
Just max time
my killroy is also lacking a lot
you have more than I did when I broke 2k. Just add more timer, and pray for a good mage map
i used to not do it a lot back i nthe days.. 😦
i was thinking of doing the same, knowing how quick im getting gems
I've enever spent gems in killroy, doe it change the maps when you do?
ah, these are not the right ones then lol
Every one is the right one though
4 kilroys per week means 4 upgrades instead of 2 so you get your timer leveled faster
On top of double skulls
And now double pearl drops too
hmm
The game basically costs 300 gems per week is how I view it
so do you just go full timer? til when?
Yes
I am officially broke
My timer is at 100. Just keep pushing it 
infinity and beyond?
(Y)
I would say probably 3:1 ratio between time and skulls
double warrior this week eh
after the equinox bs, do u guys keep investing in time or pearls or a combination of both ?
Level pearls to comfort ( mine is 20) and then everything else can fuck off
1:0 ratio, all on dungeon money 
The talent points one has very harsh diminishing returns
specifically tab 2 and 3
Every point you get lowers the chance of getting another
yeah the talent levels one is a scam
And when I say every point you get I dont mean from kilroy I mean total
Like when you level up and gain a point your kilroy chance goes down
Just level the talent point bubble
shoul i use afk gain or multikill for sampling with vman
oh I just realized the archer talent bubble actually gives some to Beginer as well...
Generally you want respawn > afk% > multikill
Whatever you have less of tends to be more impactful. Since Vman gets huge MK already, try respawn and afk first
well I now know where my atoms will be going at least
considering all my skilling ones are over 80%
Lil bit of candy grinding so I can make my Wis bubble look nice 

That would take me forever
I do 300 orb
I do 120 at a time
I would love another 500 biggie eyes
that the kind of lazyness i admire ahha
The candy on them is awesome compared to colo
oh that actually reminded me to do doot for ruby
i love to orb as much as i can before doing my biggie
mimic map sucks to orb with
what lvl is your crystalin ?
oof I aint even at 200 yet
Crystal chance is mainly shrine at that point
gotta love doing chizor randomly and getting a blankie
But every little bit helps
I can get a video for you in a minute but orb is a lot better there than you think
What platforms do you statue?
Nobody knows the secret strats 
i'd love that! 😄
ive always went like knight at bottom and fight on the higher stage with my char
@cerulean hemlock clearly AAA was right telling me to do it 😉
I hope you reset on the next try 
You guys are insane gambling without protection
3 more is a pipe dream 
No Protection fucks you in IdleOn and Real life
more like pipe bomb
I hope you know how painful it actually is getting to a lvl 20 snail
I reset on 16 like 8 times by now
more atoms than I've seen in my life
could someone explain to me why beefy bottles doesn't work?
lvl up the alchemy bubble
whatcha mean Xayayah, i feel targated about the nsail here xD
Your Warriors rule is only level 30. So u get +30 levels on Critkill
its not because i got my snail 21 without reset protection that everyone sohuld thats true
My Snail is trolling me. It got to a point where I prematurely got the Atom for the 20 Protection. I'm gonna save up Mail now and will click with my eyes closed 
dang, your boomerang is bigger
XDDD i tried 7 time to get snail 22, all failure but no breakage
apparently my brain stopped working and i was sure for few last weeks that i have 130 max lvl of critikill from library 
Its important to replace the statue on the bottem as the boomerang wont always get them all if you dont
nvm sorry im just dumb
yeah i was doing it lik ethat
its just my boomerang lacking size
i need to max the boomerang size.
Wow 
yeah thats the best way to go for it ^^
It isn't from library- You're misunderstanding. The flask talent is set to 111, but your bubble is only 30, so it caps at 30. You have to level the bubble to the same as Flask.
so boomerang size was the only thing i lacked xd
just hit world 5, do i just slam everyone in divinity till bear/goat?
Contracts boomerang is so big 
Dk functions significantly better on manual farming than on auto but unfortunately that requires manual play 
yeah i know hahaha
but im fine with it, im saving lot of time by getting those candies
huh
i think that you misunderstood my message, i've just admitted to my mistake
Both boomerang talents are 304
and then, about 1/3 left of the skill you start dropping eyes?
this island of nothing is a trick right? do I blow all my candy here?
I usually start at 400 orb
okay ^^
yep just blow the candy 
You can get nearly 100% 4hr chance at even 300 orb though if you want
Or at least I can I guess. Results may vary based on DR lol
Too much effort fighting Biggie 
Worth for the candy
Not for me 
you being real?
Normally if you were to do W2 colo you can get 2 kills at 300 orb
Biggie you can get like 10-15 kills at 400 orb
If you have nothing better to use Candy on 😅
Usually it's a waste
The first good bonus is at 10k total hours
good! 🙂
yes! diamond chef +4
Wait till you see my super secret Strat of farming invis gmush for doot kills 
I did the CHOW at least
I havent even done the zow lol
I don't mind the things I can auto
not too bad for 1 doot
I probably have a ton of candy sitting here
just realized
the 15 kills per 400 orb thing never really struck me before
but that's op
I just keep praying we get some QoL on using biggie
need? why need
ruby
oh
Doot isn't too bad. Reset button. Just need to use the dootophone each time
the dootphone is a pain in the ass honestly
if only you could put it on your hotbar
press 1 each time
instead of opening inventory and holding down left click
ye... that'd be great
crit fail on snail 14 
DK for hourglass, vman for doot?
You can open your inventory as the screen fades to black
With a bit of concentration you can use all those eyes in about an hour at 300-400 orb for all of them
Biggie eyes really arent as bad as people make them out to be lol
One less step in grinding doot
you can drop the stack and it will just use one at a time right?
still have to sit trough the animation tho
Gonna be honest I've never actually tried because I was told it doesnt
You have to drop 1 by 1
I use DK and just boomerang
doubt
I split stack an inventory full of just 1 eye and just shift click drop them
you definitly dont
it doesn't use them all, just one
it just uses one and then u pick up the rest
..Mine is bugged then. I can drop a stack of 300 and it'll only consume one.
well... that's the point
Yeah so you have to then drop them again
Thats the point
You have to drop for each boss
If im farming stiltmoles for Hampter, should i use DK or ES?
He’s asking if it would eat the drops and not spawn the boss
Like dropping 300 and losing all 300 for 1 boss spawn
Whether you drop the same stack 80 times, or 80 x1 stacks, it's the same shit. You still have to drop 80 times.
takes less inv space tho than stacks of 1
160M/420M for W5 eclipse deathnote cleared.
You also risk accidentally leaving the map and leaving your stack of 300 on the ground 
and 870M for the third one*
Pick your poison
that'd be liberating honestly
I would ragequit. Close the game for the rest of the day
the whole day??
I remember leaving map once when I was picking up souls with low cap, after I accidently clicked portal I was like "OH THANK GOD"
I find split stacking it to be easier over all
( mind u I was picking up souls for like an hour XD )
When I lose over 2k hours of Candy? I would totally quit for the whole week
You dont have to close inventory and pick up the item between kills
Its faster which allows for more kills per orb
I know, I was kidding about ragequit. Not forever but just a day
Record yourself doing 1 orb's worth of biggie kills
I feel like I have to be doing something stupid
idk, I dont find biggies that annoying
that sounds great
I just get my orb as high as I can, and with 10-15 sec left on it start the genocide
how many are you doing before time runs out?
also, what would I need to increase to get to 400 kills for biggie? I'm at around 190-200
What's the link to the idleon review thing?
how much damage do you need on vman to do kattlekrunk on nightmare?
idk, havent done it in a while, as for orb u basically go for crystal chance and cookie
I did it easily on like 400b, so 100b should be fine
took me a minute
oh, how did you kill the miner moles?
2x void radius and once in between I just ran left - lasso, run right - coin
u have a video in the pins
of a kattle run with Vman
how many do you drop at a time? didn't work flawlessly for me
I split stack ahead of time and just have a bunch of sets of 1 and drop until the orb is about to expire
and then what
dont get me wrong I like the sound of it, but for me it only spawns 1 biggie, and then when the map goes back to normal, the other eyes just sit there on the ground doing nothing
which means I have to go back into my inventory
and the whole point was to avoid going back into inventory
You don't drop them all at once. Only drop one as the shockwave is coming out to kill biggie
I can make another clip in a few minutes of the biggie kills
File is too big when I record the whole orb kill process
Edit: PC Version. The " R " Key is used to attack, while the Inventory is open! Personally I can spam R, but I also heard from people that they need to click it in a rhythm 
its very easy
about 50+ doots worth of loot
Oh wtf that is so fast
Clearly my timing is very wrong
I spam R for the auto attack
I was killing 1 per 3-3.5 seconds, whenever statue shockwave was happening
Dang thats even better than mine. I drop and toggle auto. Your method has to be like 50% faster at least
now I get it
how do you drop by clicking?
Hold shift and click
shift+left click
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