lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[rugged token]

ty for hosting

[teal lynx]

Thanks Kanna

[broken light]

I just need to fill a slot

[proud pumice]

depends on where you send it

[worldly hollow]

life goals lol

[proud pumice]

if you want to send it to island one then its loot value, if you need the speed for it to reach the island you want then its speed

[broken light]

thanks!

[fallow aurora]

i'm not sure if this is lucky but I got lucky lad with 5 12 hour time candies at 12.29x dr

[gusty glade]

on idleonefficiency zow / chowed tab, there is a neyeptune for chiozar's cavern. Do you have to candy inside there to get progress on those?

[teal lynx]

I wouldn't use IE for that

Better to look at IT. They show them way better

[rugged token]

it's the ice ball things that chizoar spawns and I don't think they actually count as a zow/chow

[gusty glade]

what's the other one? I haven't used it, but I imagine you still have to log in through your account like you do with idleonefficiency

IdleonToolbox?

[teal lynx]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[gusty glade]

oh, ty

[teal lynx]

Yeah it's the same as IE, but has better information
(Since it actually receives updates 😅 )

[gusty glade]

sooo how does it handle using our actual-game password? I know you log in via your actual idelon credentials. Who is the developer?

[teal lynx]

Account -> Misc -> Apocalypses on IT

[gusty glade]

somoene you can trust?

[faint niche]

Do infinite stars only work on the first page or do they expand to the 2nd set too?

[teal lynx]

They also expand to the second with enough infinite starsigns

[faint niche]

Sweet so should get those soon hopefully

[teal lynx]

I don't know much about them. I just know they ain't hacked my account yet
Maybe someone else got good info on them

[gusty glade]

I appreciate the response. Just something I've always worried about. I've done it anyways, too useful of a tool to NOT use it, but still. I've always been curious

[paper sail]

Your credentials never get seen by IE/IT or the developers if you connect with Gmail at least. A bit technical, but you establish the connection to Lava's database and then pass over a unique ID to the app.

With this method, if you ever change your un/pw to your account, that old unique ID will quit working and you'll have to reconnect to IE/IT.

[gusty glade]

also it's immediately better xayayah for that. thanks for helping me finally set it up.

[rancid olive]

IT is collecting idleon accounts lol

[gusty glade]

I KNOW I trust you Scoli! So thanks for the high-level details on that.

[paper sail]

Very fair to be cautious about who you connect to though A lot of default permissions are overreaching, to say the least.

Free mobile apps in particular love to yoink any data they can. The real question is: What is LAVA doing with our data? 🤔

[gusty glade]

Sending it to my old highschool bullies probably

"Look at how much money this idiot has spent on this game! Doesn't he know he can just run W2 collo for gems?"

[rugged token]

if i get 3 mail today i'm gonna click the button

[sick sentinel]

holy shit

madman

[glacial venture]

do it, no balls!!

[sick sentinel]

im at 22 and want to have a good stock of mail before trying for 23

[rugged token]

I've lost hope with nuggets and don't care to chem loop my life away so it's either hit 24/25 snail and get more achievements or just wait until w6 for the bit grind

[sick sentinel]

im waiting for w6 theres bound to be some boost

[rugged token]

will probably harvest all on this too

[paper sail]

You better believe I am dumping so much into encouragement

[sick sentinel]

fuck chems

[rugged token]

IT calculates I have a decent chance to not be

[spice meadow]

When does the laaaary buble give 100% chance?

180?

[teal lynx]

540?

[sick sentinel]

501

[spice meadow]

Nice

[teal lynx]

Ah right 501

[sick sentinel]

750 for 105%
1100 for 110%
2300 for 115%

[spice meadow]

Will try to get it to atom

[teal lynx]

All those Big P threshholds end on 40

[paper sail]

I need to find that little chart again. I think I was supposed to go to 1440

[sick sentinel]

1440 from what i saw the other day

[paper sail]

My divinity levels suck though so it hasn't been a priority

[teal lynx]

1440 is also what I'm pushing for

[sick sentinel]

thats the one for 155 div?

[teal lynx]

153 I think?

[paper sail]

I think so, yeah. 155 div + 1440 big P for 17 bear ?

[teal lynx]

Wasnt the 1220 for 155?

Too many weird threshholds on Divinity 😅

[sick sentinel]

i've only seen ppl make comments on 155 1440, not seen the chart mentinoed

[paper sail]

I know my highest levels are starting to hit 16+ which is a nice feeling

[hazy hinge]

are there any higher classes than the world w4 classes yet? im almost through world 5 and was wondering if there are any others.

[paper sail]

Not yet, but we'll get new classes in w6 and w7. We're not 100% sure yet if they'll be new branches from the old w2/w3 classes, extentions from the w4/w5 classes, or something else. Gotta wait and see

[glacial venture]

wasnt it 7 and 8?

[teal lynx]

I ain't finding the chart rn, but it seems to be Divinity level 155 and Big P 1440 - So I was wrong again

[paper sail]

My guess is on them being tab4 Elites as alternative branches: Barbarian into Blood Berserker or Death Bringer as options.

[glacial venture]

then we need new slots

[paper sail]

Not until w7, unless you have 2 special classes

[sick sentinel]

lava called them elites for whatever that is worth

[glacial venture]

need new slots...missing 3 quest items to gs^^

[paper sail]

W6 will give us 9 unique classes, plus 1 special class. That makes 10

[rugged token]

time for dissapointment

no change

[hybrid spindle]

Any good points to move on from this?

[calm gust]

I got a Rift on 5000 skull points it's taking forever :/ btw less than 25 days til w6

[paper sail]

Goes up to 120%. Don't stop

[hybrid spindle]

yeah but the bonus gets more and more negligible

[sick sentinel]

i went for 2300

[paper sail]

That's most of alchemy

[rugged token]

man that felt good to harvest all on 18 t5-6 chems

[paper sail]

Just clicked mine to 2800 I think it would feel better if he didn't round the display

[sick sentinel]

i should click it every now and then but maaan fuck that

[paper sail]

oh I'm out of water again

[hybrid spindle]

900 levels for 2% 👀

[paper sail]

All of my bubbles are like that though

Fine to put it off if you have better investments but they will eventually all be poopy returns

[hybrid spindle]

wait a second, since when is this a thing?

[sick sentinel]

alch 120

[paper sail]

Technically only 1.86% Not even to a true 116% yet. Need 2897

[sick sentinel]

you can upgrade it in p2w tab but its not actually usable yet

[paper sail]

Anyone tell themselves the "I'll switch maps/characters after all the crystals are dead" lie and just never move?

[sick sentinel]

i dont worry about that anymore unless its vman lol

[rugged token]

I usually do "when this orb ends i'll swap"

[paper sail]

Hard habit for me to break

I always miss the end of the orb/portal/cc and just stay forever

[rugged token]

haha yeah i've done that a lot unless I really wanna progress on something else

[paper sail]

and that is why I haven't checked my chef in 162hrs, Your Honor

[rugged token]

at least 2 ladles made in that time

[paper sail]

oh shit my vman is in lab Oops

One of these days, I'll grow a brain

[gusty glade]

I'm unhinged and will switch characters half way through an orb or even CC. I DGAF.

[paper sail]

I strive for this level of chaos

[warm pike]

I finally hit w5 but why are there 4 crystal capybaras spawn camping me?

[sick sentinel]

theres an achievement you get for entering w5 that has daily crystal spawns

[rough wasp]

ty for reminding me I gotta do my CCD

[sick sentinel]

ccd

[thorn marsh]

I'll stop when my orb ends

[sick sentinel]

gotta get all to 150 somehow

[paper sail]

Blind pinchy without actually comparing my own

[sick sentinel]

i've rly put off mining...

fuck that skill

[bold quiver]

trapping is the worst

[thorn marsh]

I don't know why, but my brain doesn't work when I try mining minigame

[sick sentinel]

i dun wanna candy it

[bold quiver]

w6 new godshard node, pray

[paper sail]

Join me in the mine then

[thorn marsh]

next orb and I'll stop

[sick sentinel]

i will after 150 chopping

[bold quiver]

we've stopped mining at surprisingly the same level, i also for some unknown reason went " fuck that, i aint gonna candy or stay there anymore" lol

[thorn marsh]

orbs multiply droprate btw... convince me otherwise

[gray pagoda]

Where's the thing that shows the best line, lure, and location for sampling fish?

[sick sentinel]

its old tho

oh that one has plat

[paper sail]

Needs to get updated with shimmer and Equinox, yeah

[gray pagoda]

Apparently orb makes it so the mob has a chance to die multiple times. Each orb kill is 1%. So 100 orb kills isn't 100% dr, it's a 100% chance the mob dies twice.

[gray pagoda]

Thank you

[thorn marsh]

and now I have 2x 14% muhahahhaha

wait, so any orb kill above 100 is basically useless?

[paper sail]

The real goofy thing is that the Orb then can guarantee drops like AFK does

[gray pagoda]

200% is 100% chance for 1 kill to be 3

And so on

[thorn marsh]

or does 400 orb mean it will die twice four times

ah ya

[sick sentinel]

270 orb is 2 extra kills and 70% chance for 3

[thorn marsh]

but my two 14 kill orbs is breaking the system and I win... I'm 14% sure of that

halp

[gray pagoda]

I would go right

[fading plover]

left tilt gang

[gray pagoda]

I get the red balls more often

[rugged token]

they're marginally different and left has the most balls so left

[gray pagoda]

Going left typically gets them into the portal at the bottom, which just deletes them

[rugged token]

They're coded to have a marginal difference in outcomes as said by lava in the past so it's better to just pick more balls

[thorn marsh]

I hold you responsible for my actions @rugged token

[paper sail]

Lava has said Right is best but he could be wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gray pagoda]

Lava has said a lot of things and he's usually wrong

[hybrid sky]

Better than I ever get on that

[fading plover]

right has always gotten me less than left, i know that's random and all but i'ma stick with my lefty

[thorn marsh]

I got like 500 balls once - it just didn't stop

[rugged token]

yeah it's technically the best in terms of per ball ratios but statistically they're coded to be very similar so your best option is to just pick the one with the most balls for more chances

[rotund trail]

can a gaming nugget ever reduce in size?

[rugged token]

no

[tacit tulip]

At most if you close the game before the new nugget is set you can lose the new higher one

[rotund trail]

thanks.. does a bigger nugget automatically unlock? or do I need to click the "nugget" before it's locked?

[tacit tulip]

after it comes to a standstill your new nugget updates

we've had a few people get a new one and excitedly lose it 😄

[rugged token]

As long as your game doesn't crash before the game updates your higher nugget you'll get the higher nugget

[rotund trail]

perfect

[rugged token]

it's since been patched to keep the nugget regardless of if you change area/cloudsave or not

[rotund trail]

still a bit unclear what the gaming currency is used for besides more gaming and a bit of divinity levels.

[rugged token]

4 alchemy bubbles, divinity, superbit upgrades

[rotund trail]

ohh bubbles too? I havn't unlocked those (almost done with W4 bubbles)

[rugged token]

1st w5 bubble of each costs bits

and they can never be atom'd

[rotund trail]

never is a long time 🙂 maybe in W6

but good to know

[tacit tulip]

Ah that's good to know, I know there was some 🔨 around this so I didn't wanna say too much

didn't know it had been fixed

right guys I'll be wiothout internet for a few days starting tomorrow (might be on phone)

enjoy the immediate release of w6 in my absence

[rotund trail]

have fun

[sick sentinel]

Once again, thank you for your service @tacit tulip

Oops didn't mean the @ ...

[tacit tulip]

the @ just gives extra love

[sick sentinel]

[heady plover]

does the afk gains rate get applied on this screen or is that using the 100% rate?

[tacit tulip]

that's accounting for your 143%

basically if you afk'd for one hour, that's exactly how many kills you'd get

[heady plover]

12 Million kills is gonna be a few days then huh

[tacit tulip]

aye

if you're really champing at the bit to get vman you can candy it

it's only what,a bout 140 hours?

[fallen torrent]

why mustard has to drop less than ketchup 😦

it triggers me so hard

[teal lynx]

142 Hours. Good math

[tacit tulip]

8 goes into 10 12.5 times, 12 is a bit more, times by 10

I estimate a lot

[raw tundra]

new atom how when?

[teal lynx]

Makes sense. I also do it along those lines

[tacit tulip]

you'll set a limit on the collider, every 10 million of an item above that limit you are, you generate 1 atom

[raw tundra]

new atom type

[raw tundra]

oh wait wait ok ok all is fine ok o ki misunderstood something supeer badly

[tacit tulip]

no worries dude, once you buy it it's a buff, like most other things

[faint niche]

whats the best way to farm opal rings? askign cuz so far only been doing the weekly bonus dungeon to get it

[tacit tulip]

basically just that - it gets easier once you have the flurbo prayer

[faint niche]

this one?

ah so i should have that one equipped got it

[vale wadi]

have others like me that their cooking is stuck. my leek is 2 days hanging on 442T....

[teal lynx]

Have you switched Vman/BB preset?

Those 2 chars have massive Cooking buffs

[hybrid sky]

The vman boost is huge but ramps up so slowly to start

[vale wadi]

did my vman. but the other goes up and are also i T

[teal lynx]

Different meals take different amounts to cook 😅

[tacit tulip]

yeah vman bonus gives only 1% the bonus you think it should based on description - it's working fine the desc just sucks

[vale wadi]

but the meal after leak goes faster than leek

even the last one.

[glad crow]

when i cant get 23 Dr anyway, i might try another card setup.... whats people remmondations for active bubo?

[faint niche]

just unlocked 5 more spices today now waiting for them to be able to be gathered so i can start making noms

[teal lynx]

That sounds weird indeed 😅
Can't help you more other than making sure you didn't misread something
Or maybe IE/IT can show you something?

[vale wadi]

I guess it was a bug. relogged and now it jumped two levels....

[teal lynx]

Cloudsaving

[faint niche]

love when i log out and see it somehow has 2 hours to gather XD

usually its maybe 5 mins

[teal lynx]

A huge time difference usually comes from ES

Or well, having your game open overnight and your inventory getting full

[clever narwhal]

So for onyx statues, you need to drop only one stack of 20k, and then all other statues will be 10% better?

[faint niche]

yup usually teh toon its on

[clever narwhal]

Or do you need to deposit those others one at a time to have that 10% bonus

[teal lynx]

Statues don't get better. You get 10% more from them when depositing

[tacit tulip]

the statue you dump 20k of becomes 2x better, and any future statues (of any type) deposited get 10% more

[teal lynx]

Onyx straight up doubles the effect of the statue you onyxed

[tacit tulip]

at current max, 3.5x more statues

[clever narwhal]

Yeah, but that 10% is 10% for each individual statue

[fading plover]

From Pinned
Each onyx statue unlocked increases the progress of deposited statues by 10%. Meaning if you have 5x onyx statues unlocked, you are getting 50% more progress on deposited statues .(Excluding the math on other modifiers like snake skin vial)
Best strategy, before depositing any statues is to unlock as many onyx statues as you can. Best even all. Deposite or hold all the others until this is done. Only then, deposit your statues. Preferably with snakeskin vial at 100%+ statue progress.

[tacit tulip]

with 25 statues, once all are onyxed you get a 250% bonus to depositing any statue

[clever narwhal]

Oh

[tacit tulip]

assuming w6 adds 3 more statues, we'll get 280% when done

[clever narwhal]

I get it

[safe harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1194961503305072660/image.png?ex=65b2419f&is=659fcc9f&hm=39f43dda4c43ec8308891006cdd87e80e80999881f9eaa6d61a5f2220cf1e377&

This was my change only the red ones after hitting all 25 and doing the statue grind just for 200k power statues

snakeskin 100%

and bubble at 90% threshold

[teal lynx]

207 Feasty

[safe harness]

they are still low numbers since i really havent devoted time yet to statue grinding, but its a large change if you wait

[teal lynx]

I know. But getting 5x value of feasty is insanely good

[safe harness]

yeah, my next sample is going to be large change, im on like day 70 since last sample, but im content with my hourly clicks of bubble one and mining 3...im up like 1600 levels in each bubble level and just adding more completed stuff till i have time to do full sample

[calm gust]

Any tips to get 20k power Statues and how long it will take?

[safe harness]

it takes like 4-5 hours if choco chip, max orb, 14 dr, like 80 stamp level and doublers for rank 4 crystal chance cards...choco chip being the most critical

i was getting like 4k/hr on beans

[hollow gazelle]

finally got that one done should I now make the optimal setup and just ignore breeding ?

[tacit tulip]

worth unlocking everything anyway

pet power based on breeidng lvl

[hollow gazelle]

ye I know but still

my current breeding progress

[safe harness]

some good shiny pets in w4, base critter is really good for trapping and 2nd pet that has is octo in w4...similiar to the goose vial

[hollow gazelle]

well its gonna take a few weeks to unlock that

[safe harness]

easier to obtain is the next w4 pet that makes the 4 pet equinox easier/doable

[tacit tulip]

that's a fair point, the first purple ? is the peapod

[hollow gazelle]

yeah thats what Im aiming for since that seems to be the easiest equinox dream for me

[exotic juniper]

Does anyone have any thoughts on why my money per hour is around half of what It should be? I’ve checked Card’s, prayers, gems and everything is correct.

[hollow gazelle]

the only reason Im even doing w4 pets lol

[tacit tulip]

I basically ignore money gain entirely lol

gmush go up, money go up, I don't need the specifics

[hollow gazelle]

[stable kayak]

Hiiiii,
About this cards, I am using them to try to farm Power statues with my DK on Carrotman,
Is this all good? or would you recommend any change?

[scenic bridge]

whats the best way to get gold twines?

[scenic bridge]

you should use the demon genie and poop card because it boosts crystal spawn chance

[hollow gazelle]

and card doubler on them

[uneven root]

Wsg

[scenic bridge]

should i use dk or es for gold twines

[bold quiver]

es all the way

[hollow gazelle]

ye I used es aswell

[scenic bridge]

is it es for all the mob drops on the first page?

[uneven root]

How many kills can you make for your orb?

[fading plover]

dk at wurms for w5 statues?

[bold quiver]

yes, only exception is wurms key drop

[scenic bridge]

ok thanks

[hollow gazelle]

citrine is better

[bold quiver]

everything else DK is worse even than SB

[fading plover]

why are citrines better?

[scenic bridge]

prob cuz its a straight line

[bold quiver]

can u back this argument up with ???

[hollow gazelle]

I tested it and gave me more statues

[fading plover]

like, idk statue can hit top two or bottom layer, sooo hrmmm

[bold quiver]

ok, i never tested so i will trust u

[hollow gazelle]

thats a first

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/lynx-hype-furry-fursona-cat-gif-18666927

i mean, i might have crazy statements but i wouldnt be delusional as to say something i havent even attempted to check

kkkkkkkk

[hollow gazelle]

[rough wasp]

I recommend not farming power statues that early at carrotman. If you do, ES would be better than DK at carrotman too

[fading plover]

i gotta test this out

[scenic bridge]

i remember farming them at beans

[bold quiver]

i would expect citringes to be better than wurms also

[scenic bridge]

not sure if thats the best tho

[bold quiver]

better map layout

[bold quiver]

its best W1

like

W1 - beans
W2 - tyson
W3 - bloodbones (maybe ram, never tested at high level)
W4 - clams (donut)
W5 - citringes, wurms. Someting like this

[rough wasp]

I will push my frog agenda

[fading plover]

w3 is situational tho because statues don't drop from crystals

[rough wasp]

frogs on bubo = DK at beans

[sick sentinel]

I lag on frogs with bubo

[hollow gazelle]

you got brain washed

[bold quiver]

guy is delusional

[rough wasp]

Nah I tested it

[sick sentinel]

Nah him and nerfus be testin

[scenic bridge]

what r u farming frogs for?

[rough wasp]

statues

[scenic bridge]

oh

[quartz saffron]

How much health/defense should i get to be able to bubo worms?

[hollow gazelle]

ducky drank too much of the grandfrogger soup

[bold quiver]

enough to survive 1 hit

[rough wasp]

sand giants was kinda garbage tho

[quartz saffron]

I can surive one hit

[scenic bridge]

watch out for crystals though

[rough wasp]

maybe better with cannisters

[quartz saffron]

But the heals cant keep up

[bold quiver]

cuz u are too weak then

idea is to get hit and full heal

[scenic bridge]

u can use two w5 foods

instead of one

[rough wasp]

tbh tho circ even if sand giants was better I don’t think I’ll farm there when I need glass shards for mason jar

[quartz saffron]

ofc thats why im asking if what/if there a number for defense (FMJ) and HP I should be shooting for.

Im using W5 food and 1 W4 food the auras and food cant keep up

[scenic bridge]

r u on bubo?

[bold quiver]

5 thousand is enough

[scenic bridge]

i was around 3.5k def and 25k hp and i didnt have much of a problem on worms

[quartz saffron]

Yes.

Ty. @bold quiver

Why def is 1477 and my hp is excatly 66113

[bold quiver]

cuz u are using prayer[

silly boy

[quartz saffron]

......

[gaunt shale]

[stable kayak]

if thats the case where should I be farming at o.o?

[quartz saffron]

Lemme check....

[scenic bridge]

beans

[bold quiver]

dont be sad tho, dying like that at wurms is a rite of passage

[scenic bridge]

i mean if u kill the crystals with the gas ull prob be fine unless one spawns on top

[rough wasp]

if u don’t have chocochip then don’t really do onyx statues

[scenic bridge]

do yall think krattlekruk armor will be relevant in w6 or do u think the new armor recipes dont even use it

[bold quiver]

worlds up to w5 have been very well balanced from a new players acc perspective, so if u are a slightly older player u will not have to worry with that

it will be a joke

[quartz saffron]

I think w6 will use the W5 boss equip

[scenic bridge]

i remember baiting all my friends into dying at poops when they first started

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkk that would have been fun to watch

[manic moat]

If I need to catch my vman up to my ES on worship, is there a soul that gives more exp than others? or is it just about spending worship charge points?

[scenic bridge]

just test it

i think the oragne ones

[manic moat]

or do I just run TD on my vman a bunch?

[scenic bridge]

was the best for me

[crisp pasture]

Depends on your totem level

[rough wasp]

now I just need someone without 300 orb but 200 tent and lower dr to test between them

[bold quiver]

check IE for best soul/charge ratio

[crisp pasture]

And stacking crystal cooldown for every worship level will help immensely too

[manic moat]

haha I didn't know it does that...looks like I have my answer, thanks

[bold quiver]

or calculate yourself, that also works

haha

[bold quiver]

But just a heads up, its pointless to have your vman as 1st in worship, the eff skills works differently for it, so it sucks

u do want to have high trapping/worship on vman cuz of epoch skill tho

[manic moat]

I'm just following orders lol

[sick sentinel]

What you don't want to gimp your gains to test

[bold quiver]

its less than 1% eff boost

just a heads up for u in case u thought it mattered

👍🏿

[manic moat]

I'll take every inch I can in this game 🙂

[rough wasp]

My crystal chance higher tho

[manic moat]

having scolis bot makes this game more fun, lots of goals for me now

[sick sentinel]

Worship lvls are still good for epoch

[sick sentinel]

Ur too op

[crisp pasture]

Who follows orders?

[bold quiver]

ducky is soon going to surpass everyone, he hasnnt stopped progressing for over 4 months already,

[manic moat]

what is epoch?

[bold quiver]

i remember when my alchemy was better than his

now his whole alchemy is juiced from hourly clicking

while mine is still bad kkkkkkkk

[sick sentinel]

Vman talent

Species epoch

[manic moat]

got it, thanks

[modern plaza]

oh god that sounds scary lol, literally game breaking haha

[gaunt shale]

what was the strat for picking the souls up with autoloot again at chest ?

got reminded that I am a lazy shit

[bold quiver]

yeah, people that care about leaderboards gotta watchout

[modern plaza]

40 levels per hour is pretty juiced ngl

[crisp pasture]

Turn auto off. Spam Souls. Turn on. Spam deposit

[heady plover]

turn auto loot off, collect run to chest turn on

[rough wasp]

Nah I’m atom printing rn

[cerulean hemlock]

Sorry, got a sudden phonecall. Marriage of a relative

[rough wasp]

Last fluoride soon then I’ll print hourly again

[bold quiver]

strat is finishing all soul vials so u never have to spend worship again

[cerulean hemlock]

Blue ❤️

[modern plaza]

hourly clicking + the atom levels you can get 1100 level per day, oh lord

[cerulean hemlock]

Sorry that I couldn't join

[cobalt nymph]

@open lavaremember how i was at like 57k cooking speed 2 days ago xd?

ignore that i had things to upgrade it

[fallen torrent]

im at 2E31 i think now. or

something around that

[modern plaza]

oh yeah its gonna skyrocket haha

[fallen torrent]

now it seems like it doesnt go fast

[gaunt shale]

well, thats not a bad idea

[bold quiver]

cooking walls

[gaunt shale]

dw about it

[modern plaza]

and soon you’ll be using 1000 laddles for maybe 1 level

[fallen torrent]

8.3m ketchup, 5M mustard bottle, dang those mustard acting like they are rarer

[cerulean hemlock]

I apologize, I should've sent a message

[bold quiver]

shouldnt happen unless u are leveling it in an inneficient way

[cerulean hemlock]

ketchup is 1/2, mustard 1/3? Or other way arround

[fallen torrent]

2.5mil dog bone, eventually clearing that too

then golden portraits

food ready brb.

[gaunt shale]

you have a char that has not done the dogbone quest ?

man got a crystal ball helping him look into the future to know what not to do in idleon

[bold quiver]

thats the reward for not playing for completion or efficiency

so u end up neglecting all your final characters

[ember kite]

Would ES or DK be better for grinding citringe's?
I'd think dk yeah? cause flat level?

[bold quiver]

whichever u prefer

level - money - statues - DK
afirst monter drop - ES

[ember kite]

Looking for vial level 13, aka kinda want it fast

[bold quiver]

whichever u want then

if u are at that portion of the game u should know

follow your heart

[ember kite]

Wholesome but

not helpful

[bold quiver]

i helped u already on previous message tho

'.'

[obtuse kayak]

anybody else have problem with the shame Simon not working proper for worship totem 5

[manic moat]

So I'm going to need to reset my traps every once in a while to allow for gains to be added right? And, when I do reset them, I need to do it with BM even for the exp gains for vman right?

[bold quiver]

exp vman

[manic moat]

set vman with vman?

[bold quiver]

critter - BM
EXP - VMAN
cuz his happy dude skill + transfusion cant be compared

[cobalt nymph]

somehow my damage tanked massively what am i missing i've got my cards and lab setup.. is there anything else that contributes much to damage gains?

(something you can turn off or on or change)

[bold quiver]

wrong talent set

[graceful warren]

star signs

[cobalt nymph]

skillset is right

star signs i've slacked on xD so that aint it either

[bold quiver]

food

[cobalt nymph]

no using my damage foods

[graceful warren]

VMan skills

[bold quiver]

cant think of anything else that impacts dmg that heavily

[cobalt nymph]

oh let me check that

[bold quiver]

is it a big boost? i never checked

[graceful warren]

Not sure if it's that's heavy but maybe if you've big enough statues

[cobalt nymph]

nope vman is setup correctly too

i even.. ungraded 2 full armor sets

[bold quiver]

couldnt u have imagined?

[cobalt nymph]

from dementia to lustre

[bold quiver]

cloudsave and come back, might fix something

[cobalt nymph]

i've got a screenshot of my damage being higher from 2 weeks ago..

and in those 2 weeks i've gained alot...

cloud safe didn't change anything mhm..

[bold quiver]

hopefuly u find the cause, i believe we stated everything that could impact your dmg

[cobalt nymph]

oh wait prayers

ahh

i think i got it xd

[graceful warren]

Is it?

[cobalt nymph]

i was pushing for vman for my deathnote

and that 26% total damage loss is quite massiev xd

[graceful warren]

Ooh this one

[cobalt nymph]

i guess its fine im pushing for w5 boss anyway so i guess i want that on so its fine

atleast it explains why my damage tanked so massively even tho i gained xd

[graceful warren]

Thought the beefy but ain't a big buff I think. And maybe I'm wrong but figured multikill was better than damage so it's on my base setup and forgot abt it anyway

[rugged token]

if you're not hitting mk it's good unless you level it too much then it can still be a detriment

[cobalt nymph]

i can't hit mk yet on the mobs im pushing so im not running it atm

that being said what is a good damage card set

i hit 169% total damage but that's all total % damage cards

besides that what else is good for pushing up damage

[bold quiver]

ahhahaha good call., totaly forgot that prayer existed

[cobalt nymph]

ye same honestly..

i knew i wasn';t going crazy xD

[rugged token]

if you're not hitting mk tiers you should put on the prayer and check if it gives more kph. it's usually worse when you're hitting mk tiers

[cobalt nymph]

what prayer?

[rugged token]

fibers of absence

[cobalt nymph]

i have the prayer on already

do you mean take it off ?

and see if i hit mk tiers?

[rugged token]

no, I meant put it on. if you have it on already then you're fine. you'd have to do the math for the mob hp and double it for your top end damage to see if you're hitting mk tier or not

[cobalt nymph]

ahh ye no i tested it now

i went from 25k with the prayer to 20k without it

how do you math multikill?

[uneven root]

Pushing w5🤣🤣

[cobalt nymph]

or when do you hit tier 1

wait what is that green scarf xD

[uneven root]

Chizor

[cobalt nymph]

i have a blue one

is that a craft?

[uneven root]

Yea

[cobalt nymph]

oh i need that

[uneven root]

Just do the task

[cobalt nymph]

oh ye about that xD

[uneven root]

😅

[cobalt nymph]

i have the items for it atleast

[rugged token]

2x the enemies hp for first mk tier then multiply that amount by 2 for next tier and so on iirc

[uneven root]

You just joing w3?

[cobalt nymph]

nah pushing near the end of w5 lmao

[uneven root]

😅

[cobalt nymph]

i skipped chizoar gear

went from dementia straight to lustre

[uneven root]

Im one map behind you

What lv it your quick slap?

[cobalt nymph]

oh god alchemy xd

[uneven root]

Lol 😅

How so much dmg?

[cobalt nymph]

um

no idea

[uneven root]

😅

Bruh

[cobalt nymph]

divinity

sailing

cooking

lab

doot?

[rough wasp]

i approve

[uneven root]

Okey

[cobalt nymph]

man my alchemy still stuck in w2 levels xD

[uneven root]

Same

My prints are trash

[cobalt nymph]

that being said i'm mostly just a lasy cunt

[uneven root]

So cant do somenting

[cobalt nymph]

i'm able to atom tab bubbles cause i make enough atoms

[uneven root]

Mine are more bad

[proud pumice]

lvling quick slap is late/endgame stuff, there are plenty of damage sources for you without having to go for quick slap

[cobalt nymph]

but i have no bubbles to tap cause none are high enough level xd

that being said what would be the best damage bubble to push for?

i should probably get 1 ready to tap daily..

[proud pumice]

i have almost 2T dmg on my sb with qs at this lvl

[cobalt nymph]

this is pretty much what my alch looks like atm

[proud pumice]

damage is quick slap if you want to use atoms on, but you should problably use atoms on skilling bubbles

if you can do it easily, lvling bubbles 1 and 2 are really important too

[cobalt nymph]

1 and 2?

as in the first 2 bubbles of each tree?

[proud pumice]

yeah

except for yellow cauldron

[cobalt nymph]

i could probaby do that easily ye

just gotta turn off my atom collider for a bit

so i can actually go over 15m stacks

[proud pumice]

use the atom collider at 1B

no real point in making it lower

[cobalt nymph]

like this?

[proud pumice]

yeah

[cobalt nymph]

i see okay

[proud pumice]

the max cost of bubbles/vials is 1B

so until you have bought them, turning their resources into atoms isn't really good

[cobalt nymph]

ye...

will leave it off for a bit then

and fix the bubbles to get into atom range

[proud pumice]

atoms become good when you have a lot of them, and when you have a lot of them you are problably printing over 1B an hour

[open mountain]

a vial level is worth a gorillion times more than 1 puny atom particle

[cobalt nymph]

i make about 250 atoms a day atm

[proud pumice]

yeah don't worry about atoms yet

[cobalt nymph]

(if i leave it at 15m stacks)

[proud pumice]

worry about getting your 3d printer bigger

if you leave at 1B it'd be the same, it's just an offset

[cobalt nymph]

working on that 73% printer sample atm

oh right true

okay so i will focus on getting the first 2 bubbles of each tree up to atom level upgrades then

[proud pumice]

that's a good start

make sure to also focus on skilling bubbles when you can afford them, they're really good

[cobalt nymph]

huh wasn't the chip in lab 10% attack speed?

[rare verge]

How do i beat citric conflict?

[open mountain]

you don't beat all 5 this week

literally impossible

[cobalt nymph]

mhm ye.. i will i'm slowly working on unlocking all bubbles and pushing some higher up

[proud pumice]

specially the chopping and mining bubbles, since they'll be your main source of atoms later

[rare verge]

im talking about the totem for worship

[proud pumice]

no, this week sucks

[open mountain]

bruh I'm so out of touch nevermind yeah one sec

[cobalt nymph]

ah no i meant the bonus of it being 10% mine is 20%

[proud pumice]

do you have equinox?

[cobalt nymph]

but maybe im just drunk

[rare verge]

Yep, im trying to complete the wave 50 for every totem one

[proud pumice]

i don't think there's a specific strategy for wave 50, you can try it yourself

[rare verge]

I'm nowhere close to having some of those that high of level

[cobalt nymph]

oh right its been ages since i went to equianox or rift..

[cobalt nymph]

i guess i reawlly need to push my dk to get stronger

[rugged token]

Time for sadness

[cobalt nymph]

i refuse to claim mine xD

its been ready for 3 weeks now

but im at 199/200 for the doot i wanna keep it incase we get something new

[proud pumice]

just use the combos you already know of boulder + kraken + frozen + party starter, with a voidinator at the start

[rugged token]

skipped custard again

fml

#💖future-content-blog message

[cobalt nymph]

i need to get matching scims..

[swift rose]

didn't expect chess ngl

[paper sail]

Oh Lord. Autochess time

[swift rose]

didn't know lava was a fucking nerd (respectfully)

[paper sail]

I didn't want to believe it when he showed the slime background and said it was relevant

[rugged token]

It's going to be skinned as chess but not be directly chess

[rare verge]

I don't know how i should go about it though. I've been using yt videos to complete the other so far

[rough wasp]

autochess it is like @teal lynx said

[swift rose]

i'd be interested to see the chess app downloads on android/apple when he officiallyh announces it xD

[cobalt nymph]

i swear it's been 3 weeks now.. and im still at mid w2 based on my alchemy

[rugged token]

Some people might but it's not going to be normal chess

[paper sail]

How do you still have Tier0 after weeks That's just willfully ignoring advice

[prime cloud]

FINALLY!!

[short sparrow]

Autochess time babey!!!

[cobalt nymph]

I think i mostly screwed it over by putting my atom collider at 15m thinking atoms were great and therefor not being able to push any bubbles past 15m item requirements..

[paper sail]

Bruh, no. That's w2 alchemy. The bubbles cost like 10k

[open mountain]

welcome to hell

[cobalt nymph]

i've got past that on everything im quite sure

[cerulean hemlock]

I'm surprised it's actual autochess

[proud pumice]

i don't think there's a video, try and error until you can do it shouldn't take long, use a void in the beggining, then boulders, then the frozone then the krakens, with party starters in the platform above

[cerulean hemlock]

I mean, how do you make that 2d?

[cobalt nymph]

i guess i have a few at lvl 1/3 maybe i should poush those up

[paper sail]

Have you scrolled down to see what requirement it is listing you're missing?

For sure Bug^2 lol.

[rugged token]

it's probably not even autochess, it's just co-opted as chess because that's the most similar thing to what he wants to make

[cobalt nymph]

hocus chuppus needs to be higher i believe

okay just pushed it form 30 to 62

[paper sail]

You've ignored one of the multi-gather bubbles..

[cerulean hemlock]

If autochess doesn't give us actual chess gameplay, I will be sad

[cobalt nymph]

oh that's probably a massive gain on my sample rate too..

[cerulean hemlock]

I need to use my 1800 elo for something

[prime cloud]

Is there just a chance for one to spawn same as all overs or is there a trick to them?

[rough wasp]

A proud ignorer of green cauldron

[paper sail]

I don't just recommend things for fun, they have reasons lmao

[cobalt nymph]

ill be honest xD

[open mountain]

i dont remember, for me they just dont stop spawning and I never get to leave gaming

[cobalt nymph]

there was so much to do.. it was overwhelming and i didn't know what to focus on

and the last 3 weeks i've dumped my chars into lab to level up lab/div mostly...

[rare verge]

I found a video talking about it by Nocturne Gaming. I just have to wait for my worship to fill up again.

[cerulean hemlock]

Tip: Only do 30 minutes a day

[open mountain]

wont reach no great nug by a measly 30 minutes per day

[rough wasp]

You can if u highroll hard

[cobalt nymph]

since i have doot, i wanted to hit the reach in lab to get all active jewels/buffs at all times

[cerulean hemlock]

Only do 24 hours a day 🫡

that should be easy enough

[paper sail]

That's what Pinchy is for. Turn off your brain and do whatever thing it says is lowest.

[cerulean hemlock]

RIght? 😄

[open mountain]

betting on weighted RNG

[cerulean hemlock]

Pinchy is for being happy, right?

[cobalt nymph]

fair enough, i did just hit every node in lab, so i will focus pincy on the teeth, and get back to you in a week!

oh ye...... xD

idk how i missed this one tbh

[rugged token]

yeah so someone just said in griffy's stream and it adds up that each of the colors is equal to the amount of enemy maps in w1-3

[cobalt nymph]

i need more liquid ;D

[bold quiver]

madrecita de guadalupe

[paper sail]

Can't play chess because you already killed Boops

[rugged token]

seems like it might be some sort of challenges for each world and each enemy type for each world

[cerulean hemlock]

Perhaps

[paper sail]

I believe w1 only has 15 if you count either Boops or wood shrooms, but not both

[rugged token]

easier to check deathnote/cards and don't count crystals/colo specific enemies

it's 1000% correlated to each of the worlds and the death note enemies and you can't change my mind

[true obsidian]

only 30k upgarde? nah hell no...

[cerulean hemlock]

pain

[cobalt nymph]

quick question, does the ''tier number'' represent world?

tier 1 being w1, tier 2 being w2 etc?

or is it just tier of importance the lower the more prio

[paper sail]

Just a Progression milestone

[cerulean hemlock]

Tier is more like a symbolization of how far you've come

[paper sail]

The lower, the easier

[cerulean hemlock]

What you've achieved

[cobalt nymph]

gotcha

[short sparrow]

My lowest progression is apparently royal sampler prayer lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Same

[cobalt nymph]

oops

right those exist

[cerulean hemlock]

Whistles Lucky I'm avoiding BB

[cobalt nymph]

i still got my chars in lab honestly

but the main reason is divinity

[short sparrow]

I'm currently chowing w1

[cobalt nymph]

lowkey really wanted that 10th god unlock

but i fear it's gonna take me years to get xd

even getting to 10% div points takes over a week alone

[short sparrow]

What lv are your guys at in div?

[open mountain]

not enough

[ornate girder]

40

[open mountain]

110-135 ish

[tall horizon]

Hey, w5 chat ||keep up the good work ||

[cobalt nymph]

i'm close to a 10% pull on the next god

i think i'll hit that, and then drag all chars out of lab to push some levels finish chows on BB and focus on pushing for other objectives

[rugged token]

I assume that means one of the other chats was mis-behaving

[cerulean hemlock]

What work are we doing?

[cerulean hemlock]

I browsed, nothing wrong that I can see

[cobalt nymph]

ye almoist there

[open mountain]

god rank 4 is gonna be crazy expensive

[rugged token]

That's where i'm at as well

[cobalt nymph]

wait you can rank gods up?

[bold quiver]

unfortunately yes

[rugged token]

after you unlock all of them

[tall horizon]

I see you 🕵️

[cobalt nymph]

there's.. more to just unlocking them

[bold quiver]

it would be less disapointing if gods just ended at badger

[open mountain]

You can rank "divinity" up, not the gods themselves. It's just called god rank

[rugged token]

I see clickable emoji's and I click on them

[cobalt nymph]

but its the same thing? you need to gather div points to ''roll the 1/5/10/25/50/100 % things?

[tall horizon]

alright, you're in the clear this time

[rugged token]

yep exactly the same

[bold quiver]

@cobalt nymph downside is that its crazy expensive but i dont get anything out of it

[cerulean hemlock]

101 on how to escape a situation.
I'm crazy.

[thin hare]

how much of an increase is 9 linked to goharut, so 45% afk gains for printing?

[cobalt nymph]

yikes xD

wait doesa cranium cooking give liquid?

[rugged token]

I was crazy once

[cerulean hemlock]

Rubber room? Rats?

[rugged token]

The one and only

[cerulean hemlock]

I was about to call you out for not clicking on the clickie!

[rugged token]

I have to keep up the facade for a little bit at least

[tall horizon]

makes me tempted to spam reacts just to make you work for it 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

Rash saw that

[rugged token]

I assumed he would

I don't have super reacts so that's one way to win

[tall horizon]

well, thats no fun

if you cant play, just seems cruel

[rugged token]

Thank you most merciful master

[cerulean hemlock]

He's a master... of chimken.

[rugged token]

chimkens, i've got a couple of those

[fathom lagoon]

Holy shit y’all called it w chess/checkers

[rugged token]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-meme-gif-25947987

[cobalt nymph]

this is the first time my bubo has been capable of hitting instant resset on map spawn and god it feels so good xd

[rugged token]

huge, that's a big time good feeling

[cobalt nymph]

making progress @paper sail

its no longer lvl 3 😄

[paper sail]

Thank you lol

You basicallu just doubled your bug prints

[cobalt nymph]

so that's why my bug prints were so low

[paper sail]

Not quite I guess, 128% to 182%. You'll double it soon enough

oh wait, you start at 0 lol

[barren otter]

wow 5 water cost

lmao

[cobalt nymph]

i got around 95 liquid for 1 cc

[paper sail]

so yeah you probably went from ~35% to ~90%, nearly triple

[cobalt nymph]

so that's a bunch of levels each time i get cc up and ofc the general stuff you get

this is what it looked like earlier xd

28 > 82

[rough wasp]

The good old days

[paper sail]

I've got a fiver

[gray pagoda]

If I only have the resources to craft one pair of Kruk boots, and it's my furthest piece of armor by far, and my first piece of Kruk armor, which character should I give the boots to?

[paper sail]

WIS imo

Bubo and ES can share for greatest early impact

wait, Kruk boots

...DK lol

[gray pagoda]

Wait, fml, it's only troll armor for now, I don't have enough orange slices

[paper sail]

Magma I'd give to Mages first. Kruk boots are just DR

[gray pagoda]

What about troll lol

[paper sail]

Troll, go mages

[gray pagoda]

Ok. Should I give it to my strongest mage or...?

[paper sail]

Whichever is Active, basically

[gray pagoda]

Alr, thanks

[paper sail]

Swap it around as needed

[gray pagoda]

I'll active ES for more orange slices to get magma to instantly make Kruk lol

[paper sail]

Just know that Kruk is a sidegrade. There are several cases where you want Magma instead

You want a full WIS Magma set for Choppin samples, for instance

Bubo generally gets more Money from the %stat than the DR helm/boots, and doesn't need Respawn with Raise Dead.

[hollow palm]

I am confused about the "King Doot" companion. Once you get him is there any point to linking to a specific diety?

[paper sail]

Just Purrmep. Everything else is auto-linked thanks to the Doot companion

[fathom lagoon]

SBs & BMs stay magma?

[paper sail]

Purrmep should be linked to your highest Div level character if you have Doot

[bold quiver]

purmep only

[paper sail]

Respawn chest and legs for sure on Archers. You still want Magma Chest and Pants for setting traps

[gray pagoda]

Do we know what the odds are of a rift mob dropping a tear?

[fading plover]

well @bold quiver the numbers are in and citringes are better for boat and battleaxe and wurms are better for spiral statues, but wurms also got more money and boss keys so idk which i'd say are better at this point, both good places for statue farming

[hollow gazelle]

I knew it

[paper sail]

I think the estimate was 1 in 1k? Use ES, DK, or Bubo 3rd best

[gray pagoda]

Really? That's actually not bad.

[bold quiver]

il test later also, maybe it has some breakpoints in strenght like some other areas

[hollow gazelle]

[fading plover]

i'm using a dk with full orb and 15.74x dr

[hollow gazelle]

I used full orb but only 15.43 dr

[bold quiver]

ill do 10 minutes on each right now and checkout

gonna put a hold on my coloseum

[hollow gazelle]

getting super pinchy by ducky feels even worse than normal

[paper sail]

Handing out pinchy like a toddler going for some Cheerios

[bold quiver]

thankfulkly im almost done spending all my colo tickets that i saved for months

[hollow gazelle]

I have 56 and Im never gonna do po colo tickets I used like 1k keys for very few tickets

[fading plover]

i think ima vote on wurms being better because i have less spiral than the others overall so having a higher drop rate of those would be better, plus the money and keys are nice and the xp will be better

[bold quiver]

weird the proportion should be 10 pens to 1 ticket (slightly lower than that

[hollow gazelle]

valid point

[bold quiver]

so 10k pens would give u a little more than 1k tickets

[hollow gazelle]

nah it was like 30 or 50 without one ticket

[fading plover]

but both very vaild farming areas

[bold quiver]

oh thats because u need to keep going

sometimes u get bad rng

but in the end it checks

[hollow gazelle]

[bold quiver]

sometimes u get 4 tickets in a row

ill test with 24,6x DR (screw u weekly boss), and 320 orb

[hollow gazelle]

[bold quiver]

oh na sry, need to swap to crystsal spawn

23,39 DR

[rough wasp]

getting close by thwe time i get this shit w6 will be out

[hollow gazelle]

Im gonna do some colo ticket gamba later first Imma finish w5 onxy first

[bold quiver]

good strategy i used for a long time was getting between 10-20 tickets per day (reset)

cheap and u can do very fast

[stiff swan]

Is the w5 oil barrel the best one for forge

[hollow gazelle]

so close yet so far

[fading plover]

also if anyone is wondering and hasn't done their onyx yet we did w3 testing the other day at seesaws and es performed better without midas minded less dr but higher kills netted more statues

[hollow gazelle]

I haven't done w3 yet cuz it sucks

[bold quiver]

ES with midas is always worse

because of the math

[fading plover]

well not everyone has all the game knowledge you do brave and you wern't on

[safe harness]

I suscribe to the contract school. ES is garbage, candy and move on

[hollow gazelle]

more hp scaling = worse wormhole

[bold quiver]

im pretty sure thats pretty common knowledge that ES with midas is bad tho

[fading plover]

apparently it's not

but i'm newer to the game than most of you

[paper sail]

That's standard ES behavior, yeah. Midas is bad on them 😦 But hey, they are one of the only use cases for No Nore Praying once you can get 90% sample rate without Royal Sampler

[hollow gazelle]

Im pretty new aswell

[stiff swan]

How many of the guild gift box do you keep on hand at a time? I feel like I’ve seen chips or jewels that you need them for? Is there anything else like that

[bold quiver]

u lie!

[obsidian nacelle]

oh god is the last skill for W6 AutoChess T_T

[rough wasp]

by the time u get no more praying for ES, he’s useless

[fading plover]

the statue information dosen't have anything listed about es using midas which is why i wanted to specifically know

[bold quiver]

dont badmouth the strongest class in the game for new accounts

[paper sail]

Personal preference. I'm still using my ES right now for Gstacks

[fading plover]

the difference was only about 40 statues an hour so not game breaking by any means but still a decent amount

[rough wasp]

what’re u gsing again?

[hollow gazelle]

[paper sail]

Yeti Hams

[rough wasp]

Oh yea you psycho

how close now?

[paper sail]

But i also used them for Goldric Portraits before that

Uhh 9.6m last I saw

[stiff swan]

Is there a way to increase sigil lvl up rate

[bold quiver]

everything that has sigil written on it, u buy

[hollow gazelle]

vial, gemshop and a sigil

[north socket]

does vman work for alchemy and smithing? (right and left hand talent)

[bold quiver]

maybe for exp?

[north socket]

oh right theres no effi

[paper sail]

Left works, not right. You'll basically never keep them in 1st place for Alchemy because Bubo CC go brrr. Smithing is good though

[old crane]

Really hope its more like checkers than chess lol

[north socket]

thank you scoli 😄

[bold quiver]

@hollow gazelle so i started but forgot to set the timer.... gonna rerun

[hollow gazelle]

[tulip grove]

How do you get green bits at gaming?

[bold quiver]

keep grinding

[north socket]

once you get to whatever is after a billion (a trillion i guess?)

[paper sail]

Enough White bits turns into Green, then Red. I believe it is e18 or 1QQ or 1000Q

However you prefer to think of it

[bold quiver]

@hollow gazelle did u realize that the drop rate from w5 statues suck?

[fast grail]

I have just found out that this entire time for the past 2 days ive been at bloodbones, i have had dungeon cards equiped

[tulip grove]

I'm at like 3Q 😦

[bold quiver]

just keep investing into value

[cerulean hemlock]

A total nub

[bold quiver]

dont fall into noobtrap of overspending on speed

[cerulean hemlock]

This picture has too many meanings.

[tulip grove]

I spend 90% of my bits on value

[north socket]

thats why i like to check IE dashboard or toolbox to fly over see if i missed anything when i log off for a while

[bold quiver]

overinvesting into speed is great for evolutions, but bad for bits

[bold quiver]

nothing u can do then, just keep stacking sailing bits upgrades and leveling

[tulip grove]

Ok thanks

[north socket]

sailing bits upgrades? what r those

[bold quiver]

called artifacts

[north socket]

oh right yeah, those r good

[paper sail]

Should be finished tomorrow

[hollow gazelle]

yes thats why it takes me way too many hours

[cerulean hemlock]

Ayyy

[fast grail]

out of curiosity, does anyone know if this applies to obols?

hmm, weird. Im fairly certain for FMJ lava counts obols as "equipment" there

but not for these talents

[crystal yew]

just curious.. how many gems are gonna get me to king doot? i think im on tier 3 treat rn

or how much money basically

[wheat plaza]

Cost like $400 on average iirc

[bold quiver]

not average, thats max cost

[wheat plaza]

Oh good to know

[bold quiver]

average might e around 100/200

somewhere around that

[crystal yew]

that is too much lol. I could spend that much on this game, but not all once

feels wrong

[bold quiver]

no reason to buy all at once tho

[crystal yew]

my plan is to wait till w6 drop and buy whatever pack is dropped with that. Im betting there will be one thats really cool

[bold quiver]

[void belfry]

can anyone carry happy hour?

[noble sable]

cant

sorry

[void belfry]

np

anyone else?

[bold quiver]

@hollow gazelle finished testing, wurms vs citringes respectively @fading plover

[south root]

I just got my first royal trap. What should I be working towards now? Just bringing everyone else's traps up for better gains, or should I be working for something else in alch or some other area that requires trapping?

[stiff swan]

Hh soul 7 server

[quiet viper]

any pro tips on getting an abbundance of lucky lads?

[spice meadow]

Any ways to increase artifact get chance?

[granite grove]

stack DR and play DK

[fading plover]

some shiny pets increase artifact chance

[paper sail]

Honker vial should be your leading trapping goal

[spice meadow]

Almost unlocking them shinies lol

[fading plover]

shouldn't have licked them in the first place

[spice meadow]

Funny guy

[quiet viper]

is active play higher chance for a lucky lad than offline with high dr?

[fading plover]

most things seem better active

[paper sail]

Crystal enemies drop LL at a dramatically higher rate than anything else

[quiet viper]

any crystal in particular to aim for?

[paper sail]

DK farming something like Bored Beans with standard Chocco Chip + crystal chance setup will give you 10-20 LLs a day with high dr. They actually get annoying fast 😅

[quiet viper]

how high dr are we talking scoli?

roughly

[fast grail]

like 10dr will get you at least 5-8 a day

[spice meadow]

700% should be a start

[quiet viper]

can probably push 12 dr on my dk

so i'll give the beans a shot

seems like a good way to kill two birds with one stone and get some statues too

12 without the orb that is

hope it's enough

[paper sail]

For sure. DK crystal farming at Beans is insane value in several areas

[rugged token]

Farm the beans

speed statue is already gstacked so i didn't include it

[paper sail]

Some are slower than others, but they give 22 gstacks lol

23 if you want to include Time Thingys

24 if you include the Bean Slice

Though I think there is more value in just turning in the status for most accounts than saving up GStacks of them at this point

[fast grail]

I mean, if not sampling or anything, turning in statues doesn’t give you too much

[hollow gazelle]

hmm so wurms is way better weird maybe its cuz of your high dr ?

[rugged token]

We're closing in on w6 release and it's taken a while for me to gstack the ones i have so at my current point i'll probably end up holding them to onyx w6 statues then turn them in

[fast grail]

Maybe just more damage from feasty?

[paper sail]

Feasty is always giving damage and Worship Souls at a minimum. If you add in samples, then it should also always be giving Catching and Fishing speed for samples

[fast grail]

Imagine using worship soul charge, couldn’t be me

[rough wasp]

[fast grail]

My worship charge has been maxed a few months, at this point ill just wait for w6

[paper sail]

I was going to post a ss of my empty charge but I forgot I was candying earier so my SB is full

[rough wasp]

do I wanna Candy more bubble 1s today

[fast grail]

Don’t, embrace that you will have even more eff in w6 and potentially more clicks per candy

[rough wasp]

good point

Maybe I Candy some more shrine prog

[gray pagoda]

The skill reduction talent that Vman has to decrease the experience required to level up skills by killing crystals can't roll a skill that has the max reduction right?

[paper sail]

It can, sadly

[stiff swan]

Does Wyoming blood (multi ore chance increase) and bubbles like that increase sample size

[paper sail]

Massively, yes

[stiff swan]

Thx

[fast grail]

up until you hit 300% multi that is

surely w6 will upcap it

[rough wasp]

he will also uncap skilling prowess

[fast grail]

or uncap prowess

[bold quiver]

yeah, game be like that, sometimes there are a few weird breakpoints in drop rate. ALso it was only 10 minutes so not that reliable

[stiff swan]

Does it stop increasing at +300% or does the increase just drop off or something

[fast grail]

300% mutli is a hard cap

[polar light]

It's just 300

[stiff swan]

Thx

[paper sail]

Yeah, it caps at 300%

[gray pagoda]

I thought it couldn't and then realized "Wait, Lava would totally do that." Figured I'd ask. Thanks

[polar light]

Homie mining 328% nothing after his ores

[stiff swan]

Is the idea there that the cap might get increased in the future or…just cuz

Or both

[gray pagoda]

Probably to avoid being upgraded by NBLB

[stiff swan]

Oo yes good point

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, people tend to do that with cheaper bubbles so more expensive ones, like bubbles that require salts, will be upgraded for free

[paper sail]

Yarp. I'm getting all my bug bubbles up to 400 right now to keep them off the NBLB list

[gray pagoda]

What level do you need for those types of bubbles to hit 300%?

[fast grail]

the thing is, the bubble is not the only source, i would say most people hit 300% at like 110-130ish?

[gray pagoda]

What are the other sources?

[fast grail]

I could be wrong, my early ggame knowledge is very outdated

PO pox, mining there is talent

[gray pagoda]

Oh, that makes sense

[fast grail]

stamps

starsigns

[gray pagoda]

Just wondering cause I wanna increase my log prints for lots of atoms

[fast grail]

think thats it

[gray pagoda]

There's a stamp that gives multi log/ore chance?

[fast grail]

hitting 62 speed is pretty important, thats a lot easiesr to hit nowadays

[paper sail]

I put 138 as the recommended level in the tool to account for other sources. I think from Bubble ALONE, it is 180 or something

[rough wasp]

onyx op

[gray pagoda]

What's advised for that?

[rough wasp]

its pretty poor scaling for the stamp

[rough wasp]

the starsign doubler for those too

[gray pagoda]

Oh, that one. I upgraded it recently. Stopped when it cost 68 of those I think lol.

[stiff swan]

How useful is TP postage stamp? Mine is lvl 80

[paper sail]

Every 100 is worth less than the previous, but if you can afford it, go for it

I have almost 700 in it now

[gray pagoda]

Is there really no max for that stamp, other than the bubble level?

[paper sail]

Wait, which? lol

[gray pagoda]

Oops, not stamp, the talent lol. Was thinking about the fact that it multiplies stamp effects.

[stiff swan]

Is diabolical gear useful? I’m like mid w5 and still on void armor. Thinking about getting new armor

[paper sail]

Ah. Yeah, the bubble is linear so can always go up

[gray pagoda]

Nice

[rough wasp]

bubble is linear, stamp isnt but also just costs alot of talent points

[paper sail]

Generally, it is advised to skip Lustre and Diabolical gear. Jump from Void/Chizoar straight to Troll

[gray pagoda]

I've heard it's not worth it to go for diabolical, just go for troll

[fast grail]

We need a way to linearly increase star talent points

[stiff swan]

Got it thanks

[gray pagoda]

Level up

Just reach level 1000, it's not that hard

Just do some extra grinding

[fast grail]

My FMJ will give me more defense then

[gray pagoda]

Oh, are you the one I heard has 1.5 million defense?

[fast grail]

You think I only have 1.5m?

[gray pagoda]

Oh dear

How much do you have?

[fast grail]

Was 2.5m like a week or so ago iirc

[gray pagoda]

What is it now?!

And why do you have so much?

[fast grail]

Why not

[gray pagoda]

Because it's unnecessary

[fast grail]

Can do a quick check in like 5 mins

[rugged token]

prepping for w6's first mob

[gray pagoda]

If you're only taking a couple hundred damage from mobs, you can heal it back with the hemoglobin talent