#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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how much defense you guys have?
an overly impressive 2k 😛
Like 3K with prayers on 
very little, makes no sense to bother 
this with two prayers giving me like -90% defense
Imagine having to turn the MK prayer off just to handle w6 last map
Below 5K gang 
the best
Octodars we're 12m dropped to 11
Imagine not running beefy and MK
Just to really feel the hits
So seems the hp nerf did happen but it was tiny
I think it will be intersting to see what lava ends up doing in the end regarding balancing. But didn't he say at one point he was thinking about reworking older skills to have them be better? or am i just going crazy
I might be thinking of bubo sheet damage required at the time to 1 tick floms
Yeah that sounds right, remember it being around 40
does multi tier effect bubo money farming? should i be using the prayers for drop rate to get to next odd DR and coin increase if i still one shot?
25
pop obol grind is harder than cheese rush 
Wait yeah suggmas already have 25m health, so w6 be normal scaling map 1 will be much closer to 100/200m hp
"i dont make mistakes"
multikill affects money through this star talent, but its not rly that big
sheepie to purpshrooms was like a 10x increase in hp, purpshrooms to suggma seems like 50x increase
Ain’t no one on a fresh account (which is the only scaling that matter when it comes to balance) that will hit w6 with the ability to active map 1, let alone accuracy or defence requirements
You got up prayers on there sir
my acc is on the same level as a fresh acc 
Looking forward to fresh w6 characters dying to crystal mobs 😄
i know but they affect the mobs the same
then we get mfs finishing w6 in 1 day cos bubo 
W3 to 5 goes 55k hp -> 500k hp -> 25m hp
i hope Bm gets a buff for all the bm mains
gonna finish w6 with BM on day 1, just watch 
gl 
Uwu buff for 100% uptime pls
cant wait
Assuming w5 gets a health nerf too, that might go down to 10-20m hp? 10m brings it somewhat closer of a 10x to 20x jump
the bow skill needs to be afkable maybe another form of multiple attack cept this one causes a huge ass arrow to be shot
if it 50x's to 1.25b it'll still be fine, fire spirits have 720m, moles have 900m and kruk has 100b.
If it went down to 10 and you get the 50x scale from 4 to 5 applied between5 and 6 then zone 1 starts at 500m hp and scales through to 25b the end
Kruk is a boss, that doesn’t count
Suggma scale to socks is another 50x
most likely the scaling is gonna be for the previous mob to the next. so better to look at moles to first w6 mob
done neglecting sb seeing xayah's sb has now forced me to work on mine 😦
does he need love forever gmushing anyway 😦
W4 scales up 40x from start to end, w3 4.5x, so I’d imagine we’re far more likely to see the 40-50x scale for 6
still not enough to bring us to Q hp for enemy mobs 
with w6 bonuses, Q damage will be the equivalent of like billions now
Q damage in w6 is going to be extremely common
Lmao ok boss
not arguing with you here
how much damage did you have after sitting in w4 waiting for w5?
also, it will be extremely common for a small minority mind you
You hear that adeep? W6 is gonna give you a 1Mx damage just simply by existing
is he included in it 😛
Sounds like an oxymoron to me
all the players entering w6 with 10m damage suddenly going straight up to 1Q damage be like: 
That's kinda the point
i do love gaining dmg for doing nothing and having to gain over trillions of dmg just o do w6 😄
i mean would it be even fun if the first mob didnt have deudecillion health id hate that 🤢
farming skill be like:
cut one blade of grass for 100^x more damage
No one is pretending that a new world isn’t going to shift numbers up in general, but you have such a skewed weird take on the game if you think that even 1T damage is anywhere near commonplace right now for Q damage to take its place in w6
I'm still stuck on fire spirits in w5 since the portal reqs ramped up very quickly lol (plus I play mobile, so no real active afking available for hours when I'm not around)
literally 4 people in this chat (that ik so far) havent even managed to touch 500M
ok well if i have a skewed perspective, then adeepta also does haha
10X this level and this bonus becomes 100X what it is 😦
If I'm wrong, so is everybody else
Great point! Damn you sure got me there
Yeah the endgamers have really pushed the upper damage high but that's such a small slice of the playerbase lava can't balance around them
yea but atleast i dont work to make others suffer for "fun" 😄
you just change words around to fit your narrative dont you
trying my best to point out the flaws in your arguments, but it aint really hitting the mark it seems
leave the yapper yap 
Adeepta said they only know 4 people that have managed to touch 500m
Half the people in w5 that hang out in gen chat are above 500m
that havent come close to 500M
How is it when a new player reaches w5? Is afk gains 'maxed' early on? I mean, would their afk gains get better with more damage, not counting multikill?
cmon id trust you have atleast a middle school grade of education and can read
look at this point none of this matters anyhow, lava doesn't look to w5 chat for guidance in balancing w6 and thank god for that.
When w6 rolls out we can see who was right about how lava balances the game and who was just coping
Adeepta is the measuring stick of a realistic new account that is following endgame advice on efficiently pushing (usually) my guy, what are you even chatting
i emphasised manage to show that you think it's a high amount of damage to hit, but now realising you said havent even hit 500m it's even crazier
Frankly his account is still on the upper side of good for the stage in the game he is at
There's a task to kill nkruk on vman, which u need about 50b damage for, meaning your other chars are gonna be at least 500b
does francis live in only genchat and endgame talk or what is going on lmao
and this isnt like an insane task, loads of people are completing this
he lives in his delusions
francis i think you misunderstood adeepta's statement man, he said there are still 4 ppl in this chat that havent hit 500 mil... not that he doesnt know ppl above that
do you think all the people who cant complete it will show it off as much as the people who can complete it?
There’s a task to kill every nightmare boss in every world board, what makes you think that that is an equal task to, let’s say, spice clicking
Theres an achievement in w4 that will be completed after the heat death of the universe
you mean the sb one?
Breed ability one
no, breedability
🧘♂️
i'm being very literal when I say the heat death of the universe
not like "uhgn this is hard I'm never gonna complete this in my lifetime", but literally "the way breedability levels is coded this will not happen"
spice clicking has no relevance to a players damage
It does, yes
you creating the strawman in your head be like: 
More spices -> more meal speed -> more meals-> more damage
I think you've forgotten the point of what we're talking about
I think you're kindof deluded and will get a fat reality check when w6 releases
lets wait and see
Heat death of the universe is estimated to be 1.7x10^106 year from now, so maybe not quite literal
i remember finding a post about how long it would take and the amount of years was presented in eXX format so 🤷♂️
deluded in that 1T damage isnt a crazy amount with the resources we have right now?
I’m going to enjoy the amount of people that come into w6 chat asking how they can get more damage because they can only get 2k afk kills on the first mob, just like they did with w5 tbh
2k is generous lol
two things really:
- Deluded enough to think 1T damage is what a majority of players have
- That lava doesn't try to balance the game around encouraging players to get to w6 as fast as possible
With the piddling 500m hp the mob has
x10 format is 17 + 105 0s after it, so a lot of 0s
its the same format as e10 i know
Or if you go by francis logic, the amount of damage the average player will have in w8
I have no opinion on if lava tries to encourage players to get to w6 as fast as possible, and i think a LOT of players that have beaten kattle have a lot more damage than you think at that time
here is the issue:
and i think
let this comp cook
yes, everything is what we think, we dont have statistics
You can think what you want really, we can just go by past experience of the questions we got asked on new world launches
this whole conversation is you thinking people will have millions, and me saying it's pretty easy for players to hit trillions
you think its possible for lava to impolement a "switch" to increase monster health dramaticly for like higher exp and better loot. for ppl with mass dmg numbers
prayers already exists
Yes this whole conversation is you having an unrealistic view of the larger portion of players in this game, we know
this whole conversation is me being a realist and you being deluded
im thinking better loot table so you can get items you wont get without the "switch"
i dont care about the larger portion of the game, i care about the players who have beaten kruk
that will just increase the divide from the average player and the top echelon of gamers
true
in what fucking world did I suggest lava is gonna need to balance w6 damage around w2 players? Lmaoo
not really what you are asking for, but giant mobs kinda works like this
talking to cephyric
i got to 33 i needed 2 more 
Hey adeep, have you killed normal kruk yet on any character?
It never ends up doing the task ive been trying for days
if you cherry pick one player who has neglected their account to represent the majority, your point will fall apart
they have not neglected their account, that's the whole point
they just posted their SB
You know what people do on previous worlds that entirely fucks up your opinion Francis? They candy through zones to unlock the boss and beat it via attrition
Why is my recycle always stuck on waiting on server?
struggling to move past skulls cos the huge portals dmg is also low only 30 mil rn plus the mobs are hitting HARD
Are you basing this whole thing off of players candying through, rushing and ignoring stuff?
That’s not opinion, that is factually what people do and is the exact thing that was constantly shown to have happened in each new world launch
my recycle gives me nothing
If a player ignored stamps, or alchemy, or cooking, then they should struggle
So its just broken?
that's what happens when you neglect mechanics
Francis seems to want to continue to live in delusion so it will probably not be best to try and argue with them
I neglect my wife and im not struggling

Is that because you try recycling untradables?
Anyway, I’m gonna go back to work now. I’m sure we can revisit this conversation in 6months time and find out who was right, everyone else or you
damn you old
Whats up with mine then
its gonna be him fr
And you know what? If the average w6 player has 1Q damage by then I’ll eat my hat
Nah i was joking dummy
Yeah honestly I think your internet is just really slow? Im not sure, I cant really troubleshoot whats up
weird conversation but I trust everything Francis says 
you're still old ;P
will be fun to look back on
That just means that endgame has so much damage that it is represented as e numbers, so that’ll be fun
Im halfway through w5 zones i have 7 mil damage

holy shit the spam
Nah but you’re not the average w5 player because you haven’t killed kruk, since that’s apparently the measure
Ive tried it on multiple connections over multiple days
most people in w6 waiting room don't even use discord anymore, lately it's like the same 10 people in chats
you dont have to be petty, i used beaten kruk as a measure because we're clearly talking about damage when going into w6
you need to defeat round 35?? 
Watch me 
Ill do it in no time
yu have 7 mil in mid w5?
Is that bad? 
yea 
depends on which map i powered all the way to the thermometer mobs with 10
I mean its wayy better than a month ago
that's the only thing that matters 💪
i mean mid w5 is like what you at citringes?
I dont remember honestly i think im either one after the pogo stick guys or at pogo stick guys
But i get 5-6 kills per kill so its going very fast
Stilts yeh
eh i was at 14 in stilts so kinda ok
could probably get a lot more dmg just doing simple cooking and stuff :p
found your issue
Whats wrong
think they mean this
i cant find your bubble levels
base dmg bubbles are really solid for dmg btw
What does this represent
how are your samples
your entire alchemy
Dont look
My entire alchemy is -2?
why are you not printing anything
I did say it was a shitshow
you know what you should do
1.only let bubo push
and focus everyone into skilling and increasing your samples
I accidently put the printing blessing on some guys so i just deleted the samples to get rid of it
royal sampler?
I think so
oh boy
if this isnt at 90% at all times, something is wrong
man your acc is almost on my level
or as close as you can get it to 90%
How tho
i got out of my hellhole in 2 months so you could to
utter neglect in alchemy
samples
i neglected stamps too but you have a moderate amount of stamp levels
I dont know what im doing w alchemy i gotta watch a vid or smth all i do is boost class exp bubble
God send upon me a doot pls
oh boy

doot wont save you
I wouldnt mind having him either way
doot is actually kind of a trap since people ignore many parts of the game even more with him without him you're kinda forced to actually work on your acc
Well ive been a part of this game since pre release and im still an idiot
yeah stop levelling up random bubbles tbh and get into increasing your samples
get to 500k samples :3
What do i sample tho
People neglect many aspects of the game even without doot
and even more with him (from what ive seen ;p)
annyeong
Lvl the Quick slap bubble and get some speed pots going and your archers go ballistic
haseyo
QS is a trap early on
Skill issue fs
true
I'm pumping QS until lava nerfs it then I quit
follow the path of TheContract
Brave do you also think it’ll get nerfed?
seems like the way to play the game to be honest
there is no reason to nerf it
Game is designed from a new acc perspective, not from old monsters
QS is mid :E
then leave 1 star review and vanish 
u need over 2 months of atoming QS just for it to start making a dent in your dmg
Ye I don’t see a reason, I just saw someone else saying it would
and even then, stats are the biggest dmg increaser in the game
Gotta atom skilling bubbles anyway QS is too much effort
i had around 15Q dmg, bumped my agi bubble from 2.5k to 10k last time and it got to 60Q
Only like 1% of players should even be atoming qs so i don't really see it as that big of an issue
what took me months of QS to achieve, a few days of candying bubble 1 more than tripled my dmg
if u start atoming QS too early, u will only make your acc progress slower anyway
When going for the wave 115 with 4 pets cloud goal, is there any advantage to leaving open spaces either between pets, or in front of them, rather than the far left two?
I never mentioned going crazy with it, but it's a decent way for new players to get a quick and easy boost to their dmg
QS scales quadratically so if you had higher QS you'd get more dmg with less points
oh yeah, i was just comparing time sv dmg gained
well yeah, candying bubbles is best progress imo timewise lol
not sure about % but 100 points at 6k gives you around the same dmg as 0-1000 I think
hmmmmmmm
ill pay attention tomorrow as in to how much dmg igain
don't quote me on that
gonna try to keep track of it for a week or so
too late
I'd find the formula for you but I'm on my phone
it's on the alchemy bubble % excel sheet if you hover the Qs cell
(ms-110)/25x(0.01xL^2+1.01xL)
bubble level yes
when will the class that fires beams from its punches be released?
Lman 
(On my siege breaker)
775M max dmg without the biggest 2 speed pots and 1012M with them equipped with qs just at lvl 103...i'd say that's pretty decent
dont forget the talent
most of your damage is probably from this tbh
if your QS is only 103
That's why i said for archers at the beginning
Right there
im just saying if your qs is 103, its probably not doing much of anything
Veins of infernal also gives a lot of dmg
we talking about speed here though
Around 1M for my sorcerer, pardon my intrusion
you're fine 
I was aware that the bulk of it came from the talent, but boy, not worth for the rest of the bunch
it is worth for the rest of them if you have alot of QS
because its quadratic
vman with speedpots
But that's basically true for every increase, even more so for %dmg
vman without
vman has no other talent or bonus that gives damage off of speed other than QS
afaik
I'm so far away from those kinda numbers
this is only 10000X greater than mine
Especially true for my vman, he's at 55M and i don't know for the love of god what to do with him
how is a vman out dmging by es lmao
hi everyone, how can i get more orb kill, struggling to get the rift task done with my DK
Focus on talents that clear platforms quickly and extend the timer on orb
the bookcase in w3 can help max out the talents
movespeed pots to max out visual movespeed at 350% as well
What lvl is your orb?
thanks, how can i upgrade my book level in the library, my max is 155 atm
135
Check that out you can see what you’re missing. You’re 90 off from the max of 245
Most likely fury artifact I’m assuming will be a good bit of it
thanks bro
Yeah I assume Fury + Atom + Achievement
But yea only options for orb is maxing lvl to extend duration + mana PO Box to reduce cooldown and get more dmg
Well I guess for rift mana P.O. Box doesn’t matter
slug :p
i dont have any XD
can i get to 100M b4 feb 
YOU ARE DO ACTUVE ON THIS SERVER
What are you on at the moment
like 40
on what class
elemental
I’m tryna hit 1T before w6 but don’t know if that’ll happen
i think you can, lemme see your stamps and lab pls
you can do it ;p
I think 100m is doable for you
Slug doesn't contribute to Max Library Level :)
It just adds 25 levels to your existing talents - So we don't count that in
I just try to help 😅
oh yeah 😓
what does do actuve mean 🤔
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Do = So , You are so active
huh
"You are so active on this Server" - I won't write this in Caps
im pinchyable
So you nearly got me
It's not loading
ig i do :p
uhh maybe idleon toolbox is down or summ
I wrote it in caps, cuz every time I am waiting for a response is see Xayayah is typing
Advice on what I should be activing Bubo on??
But I'm not gonna lie, you have helped me so much, so thank you XD, don't stop, I need your help lol
cans>flombeige>wurms
I got the Discord open in case someone needs help 
Green mushrooms
purely due to Cranium cooking?
basically me all day
yes this is a cranium cooking tier list i gave you
Is that really the end all be all?
Oranges also work just fine
idk what you're trying to say 
Is it just me who forgets about cranium cooking and then ends up wasting it
do staches if no cans
is Meta CC really that important to end game
yes
i;ve cleared W5, just wondering if I should push lvl 500 for equionox
Yes. When all else fails, alchemy. You can never finish alchemy, always more gains
better off asking someone else about that
The furthest you can one shot crystals on with Poison. So as Adeepta said Wurms > Citringes > Flombs > Cans > Moustaches
If you are not ready for the later ones you could also try Citringes if your Aura kills them and see how much of a difference it is
And Cranium Cooking is the only reason you active Bubo
i like to active molti too but thats probably bad
Bubo will arguably be the best class to push w6 if you're strong enough too
Wait, so which map for CC, wurms or cans?
How can we tell where we can 1 shot crystals without trial and error
I'm at 28b damage, i think I'm strong
Worms better than Citringes better than Flombs and so on
Wurms
w5 wurms or w4 wurms?
w5..
oh lol, already doing that haha
pls don't judge
Do you think there will be new classes?
😉 I will
Uh you could see how much damage your poison does on a mob and then look at the Enemy health you want to fight - Multiply by 25x (I think that's what Crystals have - and see if poison would kill that
There will
Still dumb founded how people have trills of dmg
Yes but not day 1. Lava adds the new classes later
lava confirmed there will be after w6
Just some good gaming 😄
Thanks. You see. Always there to help
right...but what is the singular thing to get me from 28b to 1T lol
"Alchemy"
There is no singular thing
Alchemy is a key component
power trithree bubble?
theres only one answer which is alchemy
eveyrhting
'everything' hate that answer lol
cant hate the truth 
They arent not wrong tho
by that logic, i shouldn't do any alch active and just have the daily bubbles randomly upgrade
No
Let the daily bubbles be either salts, souls and critters
Alchemy gives you different stats, which then interact with different aspects of the game - Like Sailing Artifacts (Crystal Steak)
Then there must be a hieharchy list of most usefull bubbles for dmg
There is
anyone else having trouble unlocking chemical plants? its been months
Sample Bubbles for Atoms, Atoms = Alchemy
Search griffybit on youtube
not quite that far in the game to unlock that
well thats just dumb :/
You wanna click the research button as often as possible. So click after every plant harvested or after every "Harvest all"
🤣
IT TOOK ME 8 MONTHS WITH MINMAXING KISTUNE EVERY FIFTEEN MINUTES TO UNLOCK CHEM @hybrid geode
I suffer.
❤️
add the lost the acc part ;P
ty 6a's!
And yet you want 1t damage. Wtf. I have 150mil damage and already have atoms going
Then you still want to focus on Sample Bubbles. Higher samples will give you resources no matter what -> Those can be used to upgrade Alchemy Bubbles. This is unfortunately an endless cycle 😅
I'm surprised you have atoms going
I have Atoms, just havn;t unlocked the atom to be used on bubbles, which is one of the last ones
Shouldn't I. It's just ores and logs really
It's fine, you can be paitent!
Good idea to dump these (cosmic candies) into Fractal island? Or are there more worthwhile ways to spend them?
Ohhhh. I focused on skilling so I do
wish you could quickview the collider
Oh, I was just saying, since I'd suggest investing into it at around 500M damage
The latter
Must I rather use them on like bubble upgrades etc
stamp quick acces coming soon instead of post office i believe
The latter being gmush?
Anything you see fit! 😄
whats the most important atom to max first?
I only have 3 lol 13 vials too
Which ones have you unlocked?
all the way to oxygen
Power of 10 increase is the strongest atom isnt it?
Boron, then!
after unlocking no more prayers in gaming, is it good to unequip all and just upgrade all of the prayers?
H 9, He 2, Li 5, Be 3, Bo 2, C 1, N 1, O 1
like spam lvl 1 plant harvests?
step 1...get bubbles to 100m cost lol
+1 slab!!
Don't click after every plant harvested you will go insane
got like 3 there
i tried cuz i gotta get 3 dna to get a .1% to get the 2nd to last unlock and gave up after 1 screen
My advice would be to research at 0.5% or 1%, for the sake of burnout
You will not want to use No more Praying. You are missing out on the good buffs of Prayers, while getting partial buffs of bad prayers
Royal Sampler, Skilled Dimwit, Midas, Balance of Pain, Zerg/Rucksack are good prayers you don't want to miss out on
No More Praying is one of the WORST "buffs" to ever exist, essentially
I'd classify it as a debuff
ive been doing 0.8 for months, but nothing. ive been getting stuck on these clouds. im guessing the glaciaxus one is the easiest one? any advice?
Only really good for W2 Colo runs 
msa mealing giving me 230% meal speed is basically tripling it right
AHA! Do 0.1%
goodstamp
👍 Survivability, etc.
Dungeon related stuff is purely time gated, if you keep doing your weekly boosted run then eventually you will get it
Is there a way to see what my sigil rate is?
Not sure if this is a seperate multiplier. But yeah it would be a 3.3x multi, essentially tripling your speed
on toolbox
Bobjoepickle one is similarly time gated
And killroy also
yeah not sure either guess ill have to find out in about 2 months time when i can finally get 200 chems when im struggling to get 1
is that 6.5/hr/player?
well still no evergreen im starting to hate gaming more and more..
Plus TWO slab, apparently
So my advice is don't stress or rush any of these clouds because they are all heavily time gated, you will unlock them by playing normally
grats!
u are on fire today, calm down
😛
sweet finally got the 5m lamps so I can get the weapon, now to work on being able to CARRY that much
Omg, I'm already on day 36 😅
w5 
this is gen chat
wait, isnt this w3 chat?
i would assume so
wait, this isn't endgame talk? ;3

heh to be fair about 1/2 of what i ask is about w5 stuff or endgame versions of lower world stuffs
odds of we getting new TD turrets on construction at w6 release?
It's normal to suffer
and im not all that bright
We're all dark lights
im fair skinned :p
;3 You know what I mean
Guaranteed
i am of a color
.< my computer crashed last night due to the storm
my sb reaches 14 mil with catching gear finally
so lost about 8 hours of active play
I wish Lava never gave the hat stripes
?
I have failed if a lurker such as myself have ascended to a rank
managed too desync on bubo 
desync?
yeah, like active ES
im about to lose my shit...
i crashed idleon like 5 times while spamming cogs for Equinox
;3
also finally got this
I got that 4 months ago, but let's forget about that account, shall we?
im so bored stupid obols wont drop 🥱
I still got awhile to go
Why'd you buy fractal
Cause i hate fishing
w6 buf soon
.< my last one is rando island cuz i wasn't thinking
It's free slab
Same
I got seasalt first
seasalt also helps you finish omars questline lol
then crystal
worst island is crystal anyway (ops i said it)
love seasalt cuz it is a good free xp farm i set my monk to
should i just wait with using the bar, until i get the symbols upgrade?
max you'll get is 10%
how not to level up bubbles 101 intensive course
how close are you?
I'll get it at level 10, at most
yeah thats what happens when u dont farm the material

ehhh, i can wait
told you 10%
Will get it when w6 comes out
i'd rather not use the bar on bad bonuses
i went over a month without leveling anything
Yeah, that's what I think too
:p wasted all your liq
i finished symbols now and am waiting for the drop rate one
1 into the lab one isnt bad if you dont have doot, lets you get the purple jewel so you dont worry about forgetting it
I didn't burn all of it on Larry, do the math
I had a +2
So only spent 8 liquid
good for you :p
cant believe i will actually go from bronze to fucking platinum on crystal carrot card b4 a full set of pop obols
How high would i need my dr to be to guarantee a luckylad at dreadlo while candying?
1 card away
go do sit doggy til you break it?
I've done sit doggy at plat
get next sit doggy
shoudl work on mine one day lol
probably around 3000x DR for 1hr garauntee
Spell much, lava?
Just wanna be done with this damn thing
to eat slim jims first or chicken tenders for breakfast. And by the gods thats alot of lucky lads I got 1
Im a bit struggeling with rift 42 cuz my sb and bubo are not that strong any tips 
Alchemy

U did full dmg cards?
ye but my bubo is only at 100bil
So meybe u need to to ather staff and go back to it again later
if i dont get an artifact
probs wont
fuck
well yeah but Im only 4 rifts away from being done with it
So?
Its not game chainging
maybe Im just gonna leave bubo active for a while
this is a huge ass target 😦
ruby cards 
Which one is 42 again?
U can do gstack , alchemy and stamps
Ez ways to get more dmg
Yep 😛
Lava skull?
lava skull on 2 chars truly the best challenge
Easiest way is to do TD for MSA, early on
i did it!
I did both ES, my ES’ are around 300b dmg, got it on both after about 10-15 mins active legit last night
vman with the lvl 50 dungeon perk +150% attackspeed and got a ton of boss damage + crit and a few full mana damage boost
I did on ES in 5 minutes
I had 2B damage
not rift 42 tho
Yes, rift 42 oh, but with higher damage, o fc
well my first es has 180bil but my second is very very neglected
And go for best armor , wepone , and tools u can get
First ES should be able to get it. Shouldn’t take long to catch the second one up. Assuming it’s just gear & skill talents
weapons is already maxed on every char armor and tools are lacking cuz salt hell
yo anyone looking for a team
if it makes you feel better, my SB cant do rift 36 because of how under leveled and geared he is
White name is automatically sus
Lava never showed dungeon pass 
pinged 
hmmm
only really sus if the account was created the same day the person joined
just realized i should get my 8,9, and 10 character to W4 classes before I try to go into w6
Damn lack w the savage pinch
or wait the short time and then make them into the new classes that w6 needs, so you dont have to spend gems on converting them
@whole slate Those truly are small gains 
Meh, no guarantee the new classes would be there moment W6 is released tho
True, wondering if we will get 3 or 6 new classes in w6 based off the names from the dungeon upgrades
whats ur print rn?
Hence me not even having a 8th,9th, or 10th char
I dont think we will get new calsses in w6
I need to sample, one sec
so you dont think we will have any skills in w6?
3 at most id reckon if we get classes
We will
not on release no, probably like w5 did it
What is the best way to lvl up shrines fast? I am at lvl 130 must reach 140 but is been more than a month in 130 ahahah
Yep
we have done a little grinding 
i dont even remember how that went, to long ago now
i accidentally made them barb/shaman/bowman
Lvl them up in construction & make sure you’re afking in the same world that they’re located in
was gonna try to keep them at w1 classes
Even if I have the artifacta that make them work everywhere?
Lvling them in construction helps a lot.
I won't complain.
one more to go then I can finish rift easily
Yeah the artifact allows you to have the effects everywhere but they only gain xp (hours)/lvls if you afk in the same world they’re located in
grats!
i got one of my toons in rift rn to get the 1m kills so i can start unlocking more
Thank you
I’m on 45 rn, afk for 5m kills, get that sweet ruby after
NP!
One of em will be orb kill count of 60 and one will be ES portal count of 60, which might be the more challenging one for your ES
ah shit i dont wanna do this
im on 20 rn
It's easy ;3
nah my ES has 180bil damage xd
was stuck on 17 cuz i didn't read it fully "on 2 characters" so i spent a good day on them
Yea you’ll be surprised how fast the hp scales though, max portal helps so it lasts longer
You can probably reach 50
I feel like HP doesn't scale too badly
ye but only 100bil damage is needed to do every rift so Im good
yeee hopefully! i wanna unlcok more of the upgrades
Oh didn’t know that, gg then
250x 600m.-.
yeah its 100bil damage to reach rift 46
it'll take no time
ngl i sit there looking at my like 430k hp on my barb and wonder why mp isnt that high on my casters
eh its decent
OH WHY IS THAT DAMAGE SO SMALLL
its dk bro
I thought it was an ES for some reason
You're going to be there for years
(Jk, I know you cleared 'em 😛 )
killed em alr
Crit chans 37.5?????????
dont have overaccurate crit
no meal lvl
How meny gold peanut is good to stop at?
🫡 May DaddyJoeBarb grow up to be nice and buff
How many do you think you'll need?
Whatever your Food Cap is
Other stop would be a greenstack of Gold Peanuts
500 or so
Shh I wanted his opinion first
The more its more%
That's a gstack then ;3
If you can't carry it, get bigger pouch
ik but i forgor this isnt w4 chat
is there a guide for the no krakens achievement?
Anyone ever wonder when Lava will add a ball and chain?
brute strength it
I wouldn't worry about crafting them. The harder part is 2B Hotdogs 😅
Crafting them is 20min max
I want it for the mining skill% bonus
I know. If I craft my Peanuts into G-Peanuts now I would have 360k
Big no no
I hed like 250k~ and ita ceep going for like 40 min
What?????????????
+1 slab
lava code 
Crafting from Storage stops at 100 per seconds or whatever. From Inventory I got to hmmm 3-5k per second?
Not 100% sure anymore
matpat quit youtube and i just found out 
Who? 
AYYYYYY
He didn't quit, he just wanted a normal life
im gonna miss his theories 
He'll be one of the writers, probably
all we can do is hope
I didn't like him all that much, but the farewell was genuine, imo.
you decreased my red panda affection by 100 pts :p
grats!
Kinda messed up the Undertale fanbase 🤣
I get what he said though.
you strike me as the person whos never done a genocide route
🤣 Indeed
wait seriously
Yep
you fit your voice 
i was expecting more femboyish voice tho
Hewwo, now you die ❤️
"Hewwo gwuys cwan ywu hwear mwe"
wait what did I miss?
nothing ;p
Adeepta's joking about my voice, that's all
whens the next round i wanna bully kevie >:)
ah ok!
poor dude got last
give him some coupons early on
🤣
damn never seen that b4
Ai generated voice
Do MISC bonuses stack each day for the weekly boss? e.g. if I get +15% class exp yesterday, and replay the boss today for another 15%, is that now 30%?
NOOO MY NITWO (UwU)
Miku don't jump on the bandwagon 
ai has an asserting tone but this dude doesnt
He does 
60k more orb kills, 1/2 way through wormhole, but just broke 13k plunderous kills XD this is gonna take FOREVER
AAAAAAI
POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
bro sounds like the shy kid from middle school
type shit
Shit
I believe they don't stack. Each time you try again everything resets afaik
🤣
both
shit
Should've said all, tsk tsk.
now tell me >:) was it really a "microphone issue"
Yes.
so now its only 2 akf rifts then Im done
Done with what?
Murder? 😛
Till W6 drops with 100 new rifts
Honestly that would be horrifying 
ye probably can't wait for w6 300GS equinox
Yo GStack folks. How did W1 statues compare to the other slow W1 stuff, like upgrade stones, town tp?
much faster to do statues
maybe this helps a bit
I cant figure out why I get so low laddles per day
Many thanks!
no worries
that doesnt tell us anything, but it will be more efficiency and more afk gains
its faster to do power and health statues than stuff like stones
at a certain point, rex rings will give more efficiency
no matter what it stays 585....
why havent you got skilled dimwit on?
What are skull points in rift
stamp is 207
skulls that appear on mobs in rift and you kill them to get points
Is there any patterns for skulls?
Once you unlock Chems, just leave it on for the rest of time 🫡
i have it on all hte time, helps with higher evos and for sustaining chems
Kk
i did dimwit now and goes to 700
you got zerg rush?
still low, before was like 1000
correct cards, card set, starsigns, talent preset, obols?
afk premium gear
lab chips
Followers GS are done, employement stats are done, Bone are on the way, Where onto next?
can you do strange rock
i dont think i can
do star rating
let me verify
time thingies and leaves too
IT for the quest i have undone right?
both work
i have my Dk or my BB for strange rock available!
Pick BB, it's better than DK, even in colo 😉
i think i can do mustard quest too, i have to get the picnic jam
@cerulean hemlock the hell you smoking
It's a joke
Also, I don't smoke ;3
me too, 2x
We fail these
Contemplating whether to get more slab
Since a few of the recipies are as easy as they can get
Do I do it for slab? 👀
yes i can do Condiment GS!!
im at the point where im about to finisfh lab and divinity and I want to go back at the old gathering skills from w1/w2 to lvl my chars and get the cards im still missing for the set bonus, whats the best way to lvl cards like copper / iron etc.? should i just put all my chars afk there and active one or whats the play here?
Well
You want to max car drop chance, ofc
And I'd reccommend bringing your characters back to love, first
Better tools, the such
Get the gist of what I'm saying?
Do full amarok for achievement 
Only set bonus you should focus on is easy resources, so just push those
I'm legit considering that
Also go to #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
ye, they are all ony iron tools or higher so ima prob. lvl them first to get them like plat or dem tools and then ima get all those 4star cards
thx @cerulean hemlock
Get void! 😄
ok
You can use scoli bot to see what quest items you have available ti stack and what quest items you can’t do anymore/need a new char for @fallen torrent
like those are really lacking https://gyazo.com/d00411c57cdfb883ff4e655c168b8e8a
and i want to prepare for higher prints
Void is the bare minumum for early w5 lmao
I did it for the slab wince
like i got a void pick and full armor when i started pushing w4 and since then all of them were cooking to get the chocolate chip and then i hit w5 and since then they are all in lab with goat god
indeed, but seeing they're starting with iron.....
Bruh you rushed c.chip when you cant even use it til next rotation
i got it
All of that for a free teleport
i just didnt hit the 5% like 60 times in a row luckily i hit w4 early enough
but im happy that chocolate was my first lab chip
I don't blame them, free cchip is good later on
Idk rushing to get c.chip to not use it is dumb
Yea but it rotates in feb anyway
Do any of the new killroy upgrades taper off at certain levels like the previous ones did? Want to get them to that level and then just focus on time again.
Level 1 for each is good enough
Time is still superior
I mean, the helm is pretty cheap when you have ES
Thought this was the case but wanted to be sure.
Go buy chips, please, when you're ready
B-b-b-but my account is nooby
im already trying to get the chips but the good ones are just a bit too expensive for me atm
Hence why I said ready
Atm, go gear up your chars
ye they are super lacking behind the only thing im doing rn is lvl them activeley to 250 while the others are in lab
once I've got doot I only need one player connected to purrmiep and the rest can be unlinked and everyone still gets all the major and minor link bonuses right?
👍
sweet thanks
I've maxed everything 
I honestly don't know what to do to progress atm
Everything I can do is done
I've done resampling
I've done TD
(out of charge)
I've upgraded tools
I've given all my characters love
I've gotten them card sets (I think)
It is not enough
I've done everything 
one must imagine the vman happy
To do those again would be a pain
i have a bunch ready for whenever lava releases the next tab 
Nope 
Imagine he decides to suddenly release 50 tabs
wait I just realized all my wood cards suck
do they only drop active or something?
no
I'm just a failure
Hmm?
After I lost my account, no
Before I lost my account? Yes
I'd just stop playing if I lost my account
Luckily I have bad password management
Too bad I've played for 3 years
there's no stopping me
I would be the opposite, what still makes me play on my account is because it is old
I'm still waiting for my account to be impressive but with each day more impressive people get better as well
The grind is infinite
Starting a new account with doot would be delicious
Imagine starting a new account but on PC 
i wont imagine thta
I can't imagine playing this game only on mobile
mobile blood in my veins
such a small screen and all that tapping
Size isn't everything
😍
steam on my personal computer, idleon stays running 24/7 on my third monitor
I literally play idleon with a dual monitor setup
Do it
Ayyyy
you can log into the same account on both
Yea I play 2 idleon at the same time with 2 monitors
The youngest child gets spoiled
One running on main pc and one on a VM
You have a problem
what are the best items to pick up to Defeat the Vengeful Grandfrogger? to get the equinox challenge done
Horn and rng voucher imo
Too bad I was the oldest 
Opinion may differ
time to resample lol, all my tree cards are 4 star now
left hand sampling ore and right hand sampling log 
Was? What did you do?!
Left hand pen clicking right had ticket clicking PO
I grew up 
what's the optimal level to get larry bubble to for a solid +3 chance
You IDIOT
printing dementia
more
baka yaro
AHO KA
i heard hitting it at 110% chance, is that okay to shoot for at first, i understand more is better but for a solid starting point to shoot off and level others
Something bad is going to happen, isn't it?
We all can't spell
115% is good
no~~
yeah thats fine, then can go for 115
I left mine at 108%
Something bad is going to happen
blasphemy
Slowpoke 😛
Mine is at 100
cool cool, thanks i knew i'd get some solid input
would u guys upvote my suggestion of making a new class that shoots beams from its punches?
I'm liquid
Yes
we obey the laws of thermodynamics
Only if you pay me
my pix is on my bio
I'll pay you in the form of a uwu
Your... pix?
He's too overcharged
What's a pixxie again? 😛
1b never gonna happen lol
Pix is pix
not with that attitude
You are Brazilian and don't know pix
No, make it shoot beans instead