#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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oh ill never do that lol
Only one SB sadly no swap token
when you wfh it isn’t hard, not suggesting waking up at 2 hour intervals to check tho 😂
4 mins til Divinity check. so exciting! gonna find out if it works or not!
Gl gl
i kinda hope it does, but if it doesn't i just have to change 8 chars from Mantra to like Vit again lol
ouch man, btw 2 hunters?
i mean...
3x3x3x1?
most do. 3 archers, 3 mages, 3 warriors, 1 beginner Lol
oh yea, i do, didnt mean to do that but yeah lol
thinking about dropping an archer tho
1SB
2BM
2Bubo
1ES
2DK
1BB
1Vman
does multikill have any effect on statue farming?
2 bubo?
ouch on that choices
No DR does
ok ty
multikill is for the 'printable object' a mob drops, typically it's most common drop.
I wanted more lab exp at the time kinda regret it now obviously but that was when ES still had upcoming skills
2 bubo is ok if you have doot, not as optimal as 2 ES tho
Why didnt you respec them?
waiting for a event with drops for free tickets i bet
No money/gems for those elite class swap tokens
Absolute dootless behavior that i do have
annnnd
it does NOT
wo BM in lab, with goat, using vit - got 155 exp for divinity.
but BB in lab, with goat, using mantra (with all other chars on mantra) - only got 21 divinity exp
F
Thank you for your sacrafice i will inform all who follow you
But at the same time 21x10 vs 155 pet character is pretty good if it works that way
Was it before or after the login double exp? Cause that doesnt get copied to other characters.
in the time it took me to swap the others (3m) the BM got 9 dvin exp (compared to the 21 from 1 hour on mantra) lol
now while my BM is out... which pets did i need to breed...
for what if it is 4 man arena it would most likely be peapod that you need to unlock
how come when i active for 8 hours and switch chars it says i still have 2 hours afk on the same char? am i missing time?
Youll get it back when you hit the character selection screen.
It's due to lag, generally caused by active ES.
yea but i'm trying to farm statues so does that mean i lose 2h of active farm?
dang still over a week to have levl 7 shiny squirrels... (and be done with them for a while
Yes, that is what it means sadly.
so how many of each breeding pet do i need to have in for best use?
Bigger bags alwats help. But it comes down to the game being poorly optimized. It hits us all. No way to prevent it until lava allows us to not show dmg numbers.
oh alright ty
well.. there is some ways. like... Filtering main drops, sucks for combo'ing to GS while you Statue for example, or while materials for use while Obol farming, but lets it run smooth for hours.
Filtering main drop makes it less laggy for sure but the main lag is caused by dmg numbers which cant be removed.
oh hey look.. i broke 1754B/hour cooking speeds. (i was lookin at wrong thing)
Maybe one day. Lava did let us remove it from pet battles and worship td.
w8 'The simulator"
where we simulate playing IDleon, while in idleon
eclipse skulls all done. did i win dad?
You are winning son
thanks🥹 thats all i ever wanted
W8 is a matrix system or even worse introduces a rebirth mechanic...
i just unlocked : Mashed Potatos
that.. that means what i ate for lunch, is now my meal!
finally cleared rift 34 now rift 36 is in sight 
so.. what all ways to get more critters? cuz.. i needa like.. super stock up on bunnies and penguins.... lol and i dont wanna do 20min traps
i think scoli said 40 hour royal traps are best last i checked but i cant say for certainty cause i dont remember the message specifically
found the message
But thats if you actively dont collect. If you do pick up your traps, thats not true anymore.
nice. ill take a look in a bit. doing a lil bit of cookin
i plan to drone on BM while activing BM or SB every... maybe every hour
am lazy... leave it to lazy trap vaccum cause that is one less thing for me to worry about
Both IE and IT literally tell you on the dashboard when traps need collecting...
1 40h is better than 3 10h. so if you miss claims 40h is best
yea but i got a life. and this is an idle game - not meant to be played 24/7 active
the difference between 40 and 10 hour royals isn't massive, so just let 40s auto claim
if i did do it i would do 10hr-20 hour traps anyways and i have things to do irl so i cant keep claiming everything in the game
and sadly i dont have enough sanity to do 20min claims... not after doing 2min claims for like an hour to try to push myself closer to 1b silver/copper bars for vials...
tossed in BB claims at equinox in the mix to make things more interesting as well but my sanity could not take it
probably will do that eventually when i build up candy reserves again currently on that P.O. box grind for tickets... only working on ~20ish tickets a day not 300+ like xayayah/thubie/ducky
sorry i remember you doing colo runs and getting 2 72hr candies so i thought you went ham like them
he os
nah fuck that 
50 tickets a day club wya
I don't need a second job right now innit
Rule number 4, dont talk about fight club.
whats it take to cook double cherry? sick of it being on my toolbox number 1. lol
(don't have it unlocked either, but it thinks I do)
IE shows recipes.
if you have IE then you can check out the reciepe or on the wiki i believe
JEEBUS thats far away
i got it without wurm catacomb spice there are other combinations to get it btw IE shows what you could use if you have the spices like wenapek said
just lower chances
With ladles being op as they are, even 2% chance to learn is very easy to cook.
Need that gstack
how?
Dayum almost done!
i don't print them
you dont print the motes logs and spitfires?
the logs and motes were done long ago
I've had 8 characters killing fire spirits for like 3 days
ah makes sense
will be nice to be done though, not sure what the next plan is
maybe divinity jail until W6 and active afk bubo
construction mastery? if that is still a worry maybe push TD like those in endgame talk do?
oh lord don't get me started on TD's, i've managed to push myself to do 3 of them in the last week
i don't know how sythius sticks at it so long
i dont know how he manages to get so far in the first place
I've done 190 goblin, 180 acorn and 180 W2
should of been 200 goblin but i forfeited instead of upgrading a tower 
i'm smart like that
i wanna get my towers up higher right now cause poisonic just hit 41 and i know that is my main dps and i wanna get cannoli a little higher before i attempt and the atom just a tiny bit higher for more tower dps bonus
once you get level 75 towers and high canoli/atom dmg/equinox its mostly just time stopping anyone
oh man i have been neglecting towers
i have been neglecting shrines tbh....
but yes i wanna push towers to lvl 50 at least before i attempt another major push past 130
for all my TD
and get my cannoli to lvl 30+ cause i have that atom but cannoli isnt there yet
i wanted to try all the TD challenges cause i havent gotten any TD achievement yet i think at least not the acorn/cans/OJ yet
in the grand scheme of things MSA is a small bonus so theres definitely much better things to focus on
yeah i just wanna finally unlock and upgrade all the prayers cause i know some of them are major players like that +money% one for my stamps cause my money% is terrible highest is bubo of course at 692k%
you have zerg rush and midas, they're the real MVP's
ruck sack OP
yeah i know rucksack is OP for stamps i just dont have the balls to equip it like you guys just yet... i need as much space in my bags as i can get
ruck sack is great for inventory crafting as well
doing the 10 milli bullets/slush
on my Vman working on doing the other bags but currently limited by hampters...
and my mason jar i am trying to use 90%+95% discount
even though i could upgrade it right now i dont wanna use all my glass shards up
good plan, if you haven't yet get the monster rating quest before going back to sandy pots for shards
easy passive green stack on a DK
not on my DK but on another character just cause i want to get all the quests done on at least my Vman if i can cause it scales his eff and luck up even more
the repeatable picnic quest also counts towards those star talents
what
no way
vman gonna be completing those quests a lot now...
i never did it cause i thought it was tedious tbh
thats one use for gold watches lol
To be clear you win those points when you complete it for the day, then lose them back the next day when it goes uncompleted again.
oh...
Just making sure you didnt think it stacked
no ithought it stacked...
lets pray that 15.31x is good enough to get the fists in a couple nights...
i hope i can beat the w5 boss before w6. what should i get to push w5 to get realistically the w5 boss killed? rn i have only my blood berserker and technically my w4 secret class can access w5 boss, but both are weak and cannot beat the moles in one/two hit.
just use es
ditch the bb, put him in kitchen or on divinity and start lvling dk, es and bubo
and forget to "push" atm
sounds you have much catching up to do
i can believe that, not that much tho. the first pic is the one that is currently my best character.
others... has been funneling my nothingness island in towns... only 2 other chars actually progressing...
There's an option you've probably not considered: when a new world is released lava usually nerfs the portal requirements of the one previous
There's a strong argument to ignore w5 entirely for a bit and work purely on your account. Typically, this would be alchemy and cooking
Oh, you're actually at the boss
Then yeah, just alchemy to get that damage up, and preferably push a stronger class to boss in the meantime. BB is terrible
For active farming, do I choose Bubo or ES? Are they both good or only for a particular farming?
Bubo specialises in total number of kills, no class kills faster once setup. It does have map reliance and high cost to setup tho
ES is good at getting the monster you're farmings drops, due to portal
Thoughts on ES tends to be mixed. It's really good at what it does, but time is usually better spent on bubo or dk
Did someone made this greenstack? 

Guys should i put 1 or 2 dk in construction i see some endgamers having 1
2, the endgamers with 1 only have 1 DK
And what is the best layout
Hey Sakori, do you have link to google sheet which has jewel and chip rotation?
It's usually open in a tab on my browser
Thanks, I couldn't find in pins 
They're not a rush to get due to how expensive they are, but they're worth having
I'd personally wait til w6 at this point as you'll probably need gems
So basically if I want to farm rare drops, I probably should use ES? As it has the portal? And Bubo is good for money, exp and kill count?
Is kitsune on when he's awake or sleeping?
awake
I still dont really understand kitsune. Сrops already grow too fast and hit max level before i can check even despite me being very active. I assume it will be more usefull later on with more evolutions available?
I got it at 150k kills with less droprate so I hope so for you
Well its still all luck 
early on it's useful to get more DNA to unlock the new plant types. Later on it's used for chem cycling to get near infinite gaming progress over time
Ah yes, thats probably true. If i just chug on low level plants i'll get a lot of dna. but thats pretty much very active farming.
I might try it out.
celebrate with a zaaa?
What is max level for talent books?
245 currently
is there a list of those sources to get to 245?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
I think that hits them all
sick thanks
Base: 125
w3 merit: +10 (135)
w3 saltlick: +20 (155)
w3 library achievement: +5 (160)
w5 sailing: +75 (235)
w5 atom collider: +10 (245)
Lava uses different wordings for the same thing
and then there are even more sources that boost it past 245
So Insight only shows you the "Talent Book" stuff, but it might be called talent levels or some shit. But essentially it's the same stuff
oof
hows my fav gambling addicts doing today
Got my 7th Sheepie 
Is it better to farm cards with es or dk
not bad :p
think its time to get atom collider
9th sheepie today 
sourish fish gives 4% vip at level 1 right?
Where i can find godshard ore,
Currently not in the game, should be a world 6 ore
I saw is in the slab and i was thinking i can get it
My first 3 Day Progress 
I feel this should be worth more days
need 40% more for over acc sourish will gimme about 28% more only 😦
my first 19k seconds on bubo :0
Getting to that is a 3 Day + 1.5 Day + 1 Day + 12 Hours + 8 + 5 +3 +2 + 1 = 6 Days and 19 hour progress. I think that's fine
Getting ~7 Days of progress is a good amount for RNG imo (I can do that in a few minutes with Chems 😅 )
how powerful is this?
Not bad , especially since it gets multiplied by bubble 2
Finally a somewhat decent upgrade!
these souls will probably be hard to get i need to reach wave 30-40 but i cant see that happening
halfway there 
Scaling is rough though…
Stupid question, do i need to care of god link if i have doot? (all my char are lv20+ divinity + link to the snake right now)
Only if you want a specific minor bonus i believe
You only need to link to purrmep
Not sure 😓
Thanks !
Most people put their Chars on Arctis with Doot, since IE has problems showing the Lab correctly without it. But that is technically not necessary 
Make sure to connect your highest Divinity level guy to Purrmep, since the Minor Buffs get better with higher level
hi xaya !
Hi Racoon, what's up! 👋
https://jesusholder.idleonefficiency.com how's my alch looking 
Idleon toolbox better 🙏
also shd i just aim to get every bubble to like lvl 100 ish base
Not for looking at Bubbles 🙏
they are both good
i find IE easier to navigate but IT has better info
True
I love IT, but not for checking Alchemy 
Work on skilling bubs ngl
Time to spam 20k balloons on bubo 
I would first aim at a base of 20-30
Then when you are comfortable get them to 50 and later on 100 sure
I don't think you will be able to get most bubbles to 50 yet 😅
I'm not 100% sure about your earlier alch levels, but it's nice seeing you invest in Cooking Roadkill 
I would try to get "Molto Loggo" (First Big Bubble in Purple Cauldron) higher. You know how to get more Bars via Archers? 
Or candy if you are comfortable with that. But just to get it a little higher
Every % in multi logs matters
- Till you hit the 300% cap
That kinda depends on how many iron bars you get 😅
there's one or two sources of multilogging too so base it on the skill not the bubble
Kinda yeah. Multi logs is pretty good for early samples
dont forget your discount tags
yeap
also is quick slap worth investing in early?
or is that smth i shd focus on later
okays
Starting my con cog rework like a humpty had them all build rate not exp ( got to 78% lowest exp cog atm) wish there was a away to auto delete cogs you not looking for
Lol
Even just a hotkey to toggle delete would be such a timesaver
Ye would be nice, would be prefect to delete x% or lower, like I'm 78% exp so any lower then 78 boom gone lll
Rolling kattle obol can u get +1 afk gain?
Seems people's cog board are some like all 100%+ exp I wish I had the effect to click dele to much
how you greenstacking pizza? youre pateint lmao
lol
Active in beans no?
well not like the jam from w1 shop, only 1.4k per day 
these are even worse iirc
yeah, they're only 900 per day
i buy all the items like that now, just in case lava decides to do what he did with the pickle
still 70 pickles away
Did you start late? It's been like 3 months since equinox came out 😄
Nah I've only just started to be bothered lmao
Does anyone know why I can't click the "yes" button on this? Am I missing something?
so much patience
You don't have enough
But, don't I have 37?
It's rounded
I had only 1 when equinox came out. Then I started buying other stuff in shop as well. Not sure if I can keep that up though after pickles
upgrade loot on ship 1 and try again
do you really need that 56 gold? ._.
It's the first time I got to try the trading thing, so just wanted to click the button lol
And was confused as to why it didn't work.
got it today to lvl 2
any colo runners here ?
What you need Daln?
Colos are my specilaty
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
This might be enough
but i guess i was just a bit slow when entering next one
seems like it has to be super quick
Wait ~10 seconds or more before placing the first orb
it seems i can place it when entering if i move super quick
What level is your orb at?
Yea, waiting would be better imo
I always wait for wave 6 before placing the orb in colo2. To be safe.
so you place it after first wave then or?
i finally have this 
like place it down on 2nd wave?
6
Otherwise if you take just a while longer when collecting chests you'll lose it 2nd run
Spam all waves when you enter
yeah thats what happened twice, lol
Wait until the timer says 4:50
i can fit 2 runs in my 268 orb
got it, thanks 😄
As long as you spam up to wave 10 before 4:33 and the 15 before 4:14 the miniboss should spawn at 3:57
So dont worry that much about the timer
strange spice question, or rather breeding.. if i have multiple heart in the yard, of the same type, does it help significantly?
you basically spawn the first 5 waves in and wait 10 seconds (so the nodes are on low timer) then place your orb/get to work. It gives you enough time to clear out the second colo
2 of the same = 2x the progress
It doubles the rate of gain however breedability has heavy diminishing returns
so how many of 1 type would you suggest
it's worth doing for unlocking new pets tho
Not more than 2.
this is more for boosting not unlocking new
boosting what
the breeds
Dont want to use all the space that should be used by shinies.

Breedability doesnt change pet power
I mean the majority of my yard is shinies, but i needa get some spice flowing. lol
oh really? so they only effect like new pet chance?
Yea
time to go on a murder spree
The only things that change pet power are BM's talent, breeding skill level and egg rarity
Only things that change pet power is breeding lv, bm talent and egg rarity.
Anything besides that is only for pet chance
Damn you beat me to it by 1 second
I wanted to type aswell but Im slow 
the screams of tiny creatures echoes through the dimensions as they are slaughtered for space
oh man, look at that, I suddenly have so much space and storage space!
as an extra note, breedability is so bad that the achievement tied to it is effectively unobtainable 

You know, the tab where we have 1000+ leftover points
iam not even sure what that means to be honest.. "breed 7?" like... rank 7 of the upgrade, and 15 pets?
is there a priority list for ruby cards
bandit bob is totally ready whenever i get ruby able

as you level breedability against a pet you get a number next to the heart - it's for reacing 7 on 15 pets
still getting more

i may never turn in the quest on a few chars just to get more... lol
Only 55.7M days for one pet 
I never actually knew the numbers lmao
when farming skilling cards, e.g. lustre, does drop rate or card drop chance help? which is better?
Ye, base time is 55.7M days, so even with all multipliers its still insane
if candy, snapshot cdr and swap to drop rate/afk gains. if afk a mix of cdr>dr and also afk gains. make sure at 100% efficiency and try to cap skilling speed
so.. wait.. how in the world do you get that achievement then? lol
You dont
you dont
max eggplant is what, 408%? So effectively a 5x multi
Breed speed from pets is 3.5x
27 slots in the fenceyard: x27
55700000, divide by 5, 3.5, and 27 = 117,883 days per pet at max upgrade level
322 years per pet, 4844 years for all 15 pets
Eggplant depends on meal shiny level but ye, around 400%
Ah right, I was accounting for my current bonus
Forgot shinies give that too
still, 5k years to get that achievement
did you include that it stacks with more than 1?
yeah, that was the 27 slots in fenceyard 🙂
does discovering cloud islands give no xp to captains?
Hmmm I think that they might need some sort of boost to that in w6
So I have to alternate the captains doing the exploring so they dont get left behind?
exp gain for captains is based on the island you go to so they'll catch up plenty as soon as you go to later islands
you'll also start replacing captains soon so the level disparity doesn't really matter
did you includ ethe talent itself or the increase they get over time?
like max the breed pulse upgrae is +250% breed speed.
... that achievement needs removed then... lol
unless were all missing something big - like an 11,000x multiplier.
that or it can be changed, or lava can change the scaling for breedability
any easy ways to increase shrine leveling? i am at 131/140 for equinox, and blocked on new upgrades. i have most of my guys in w4 town, with shrines there.
if you're desperate you can candy it (use DK)
i mean the scaling would have to be literally how much faster? lol
There are many things in the game that we can't do yet
Most of them are tasks
It's future proofing
i swear he codes some of these achievements just to see if anyone cheated them in
double afk chance, afk gains help with this?
It just doubles your exp not the time
It's gonna be weird though when it's a w4 achievement that'll need some w6 or w7 buff to make possible
actually not sure why DK was suggested to me before
what captain stats are the best to focus on? at the moment my captains are just a random pile of whatever looked best at the time but i feel like i should be swapping them out
gold food for gold cheese
w8 "all previous skills now work 20,000x faster"
speed then loot value
whats the chance to get like golden chest in sailing
also, isnt there some max for a dk talent, orb or the statue? like 245 or something
Captains that mix speed/loot value are best general use for progression
alright time to sleep at tremores round 2 and see if i survive a full night this time.
couple more greenstacks done 
another dumb question. my sb is mining dreadlo for statues. i just made him a dreadlo axe. should I have a warrior drop upgrade stones on it for str, or put agi on it to boost his main stat
Boost your main stat
hey guys after i got vman the protals from world 5 got unlocked by themselfs
is that a thing that supposed to happen?
why is he holding copper :\
speedruns clear all your vman kills on death note, locking all portals. As payment, after the run is done, it unlocks all portals you've already done on another character (setting it to 2mil kills)
after cloudsave, still showing copper
ah i see
dreadlo just doesnt have model
yeah it just does that. Lava forgot, I think
oh weird, ty
lava coding 
New lvl 100
Damn
Took me like 4 days but worth it i guess
voidman what lvl chopping
What damage range people would recommend for Nightmare Kattlecruk?
Low but ill get it to lvl 101
As long as you can 1 shot the moles you can do it
have you voidman biggest lvl on other skills?
Yea on mining lvl 101
And working on fishing rn lvl 90 rn
i need to repair
he needs to be 1lvl above?
cant be like same lvl?
Idk but just in case
What are people doing before the W6 update? I find myself mindlessly doing things that are likely waste
Trying to reach the end of w5
For the bubbels
You cannot really rush the skills
bubbles, better liquid cauldron, 200gstacks/ 500lvl on all chars, etcetc
But won't all that be quicker in W6
Alchemy
Getting better prints
Better weapons,tools, armour
Working on stamps
Unlocking stuff you may have missed
breeding lvls, shinies, all vials, quests for skill eff
Working on unlocking Onyx statue
sure it will be quicker, but you can get a head start on the equniox symbols upgrade for the 200 gs dream now
Do i make kruk armor or just stay magma?
But surely W6 will offer quicker ways to achieve all that. That's what I mean idk what to do that'll be efficient even with the update
would you rather than 190 green stacks when w6 comes out or 150
The most efficient way to play the game is to play it in your pace
I'm just a little defeated that's all haha
well liquid cauldrons, bubble upgrades, vials are all still viable and most of them wont be faster
the most efficient way to play the game is to click bubbles every hour 
collo farming aswell
I'm not quite at the hourly bubble clicking stage yet lmao
Daily click 
I have 600 enters and im too lazy
well then you have a lot of content to be catching up on still
same, got about 150 runs of w2 done through holidays and decided that was it
https://no_u1.idleonefficiency.com/
My ie if any1 wanna see my account
What's the max bonus construct EXP a cog can get ?
Guys why my account max speed is capped on 175%?
depends on ur max cons lvl
idk about max but there's a dude with 170-180% per cog atm
And here I was hoping that there's a max so I can stop caring about them, then I got one that was like 20% higher than my max and I couldn't find something relevant on the wiki
can go over 200% easily
idk about easily 
hahaha
its technicaly easy cuz its time gated only
u dont have to do anything and u will eventualy have that
active BB for double DK 
oh no, u dont have to active BB
cuz cog stats are only based on highest construction level
oh we talking about cog stats
it would be bad if someone only had 1 DK tho, would struggle a lot to level up construction
right 
would have to make up for it with bob bubble levels
oh btw, does cranium cooking help with sigils as well ?
it should D:
not anymore
sad
what is the best way to use the gold egg capsule i got it from the treasure hunt quest
what would that be
this thingi
oh just use it
Stack a high orb count w DK and use them
even just 1% off CC time to sigils would be huge
whr to stack
Techincaly the best way is using DK for a big orb value and then using it. But since its boss drops it doesnt matter that much, cant drop more than 1 candy of each
Whatever map you can get a high kill count on orb with
Citringes or Tremor wurms are the best
does which world u use it affect what boss?
w4 clammies, w3 bloodbones, w2 tyson w1 beans
Beans would be a decent choice as far as I know
ok cool
gm
gm
cool what is this
baba yaga eggs, i believe its written on it
what use does it have
yes, there are a few uses
u can also hope for a future update where u can hatch a baba yaga
@fierce oracle agi bubble lets go?
so i dont need 26 of theem?
😮
yea, I think you only need one
Whats the best way to make significant improvements to drop rarity?
maybe i could craft some extra golden peanuts to help
lava plz
you need to set each one individually, not click on cook on all kitchens
yea that happens
XD I was looking at the Attack Bar
seems legit
oh lol i thought it was the achievement
i dont get how this stuff happens
Does Midas touch affect the mobs in w5 boss room?
no
story of my life :']
400m~ fire spirits until 200 GS though
worst thing is that we will have to spend gems for card packs (if we want an early boss thing completed)
man how do i even unlock this thing
for startes u need some DNA
How long did it take you?
If you want it asap
Min max your kistune
im talkin liek the last one
at 0.5% chance u want 200 tries to get it
it's been like ever since w5 came out
Isn't it either 0.1 or 0.5?
so how i get the last one
no idea, i would save around 100+ dna and roll
yea i can do that no prob
got it pretty fast on all my acc, never had trouble
alr
It took me 8 months with min mxing.
some people roll with the minimum
so just research everytime i harvest plants right
man said "all my acc" 
Good luck. Note that I'm much more unlucky then everyone elses here
Yes
i have 2 acc forgotten that i speedrun

Or you can save up
alr ima try it out
got around 500m power and stopped playing, reached the grinding cooking/CC/statues part of the game
nah i don't have the patience
@bold quiver have you pushed your snail past 23 yet?

yeah its been 25 for a while
i believe i lost around 7 times on 23 and then got it to 25
you need to harvest all, then click
it's been so long since i've touched it bruh
how much encouraging
25 the max?
i did
none
nvm i didn't see a mushroom there lmao
Refresh game, cloudsave, if needed
those are some bold odds
i stopped encouraging after a 3 resets
@bold quiver Am I considered going at a slow pace for unlocking worlds f2p?
It's essentially been 33 days, at biggole wurms
yes very slow
f2p can get to w5 in 2 weeks if u know how to play
yo bro do i just harvest one plant at a time then research or harvest all at a time then research
Can you tell me how? 😛
W3 is a slog
if u dont know how to play and its your first time, if u joing discord and learn u can reach in 20 days
was a slog
ofc it was a slog, your alchemy is dogshit
That's a false piece of informatin, if you're f2p
so do i harvest one or multiple
whos doing the first speed run to the end of W6
Everything

Check every 15 mins
It'll probably only take you a week
whats the difference between construct mastery and skill mastery in rift 🤔
unless u dont log in the game daily to move characters 33 days is more than enough to unlock vman for any player that has already reached w5 and know how to play
who!!
well hopefully
speedrunning to w6 is kinda of a grind tho, w5 is not that kind
it's been proly half a year since i got the last one unlocked
That is false. I didn’t know how to play and tried to optimize as much as I could (being a new player with no prior knowledge). It took me a little over 2 months of daily play to reach w5. I also got lucky with pets in that I got no duplicates for 8 weeks straight, missing only doot, rift slug, and slime
but its the same thing, u can just keep psuhing portals offline, u barely will need dmg anyway
😅 You tell me how to get a surplus of balloons, I've been chugging
afk'd at seasalt islands for 5hrs, afk tab says 8m exp/h but i only got 8.4m for 5h?
33 days for vman?
yo btw how do yall get that plant that looks like 4d objects
construct matery is just bonuses baised on levels?
superbits
bonuses based on building levels
yea how u get em
combined
ahh
im probably far from getting them but just wanna know
Level up gaming
a few dedicaded players here got to w5 in around 20 days in first playthrough also, so its skill issue
you should probably at some point build an elevator to connect the building levels
f2p is without auatoloot
if u struggle to manage all characters at once, its hard to push fast
dont need autoloot until u farm active with ES

my f2p acc only got autoloot at mid w4 kkkkkkkkkk, or end of w3 iirc
And when should you do that?
the afk screen stats on seasalt assume you can catch the fish with 100% efficiency, so if you are under that its not accurate
Then it's not..... f2p 😛
whenever u feel like it
when you need to :p
You'd judge everything wrong 😅
Ah gotcha, thanks
“Dedicated player”, “first play through” and “20 days” seem to narrow the pool to a handful of ppl
why would you have a second f2p account that you spend money on
i swear my kitsune seems dead
have you turned it off
I'm talking about 100% f2p 😅
i mean, u can reach w4 in a week's time even if u dont know how to play the game
A better sample size would not be the top 0.1% of try hard new players
nah im joking but it still look like he's dead
i did turn it on tho
u dont need autoloot before active farming ES, doesnt change anything
:p
With money, correct?
farming at choco with ES for some mats, but bro. corporate subs, i did 2 portal and only got 200 subs is it normal or i did something wrong
it saves up a lot of effort
just watch griffy bit video
Griffy had autoloot
what effor? if u want to speedrun u cant even play active kkkkkkkkkk
Then why did you mention active ES 😛
that should happen passively
are u dense?
the preferred term is thiccc nowadays
Possibly ;3
figures
lmao
cuz doesnt make sense what u are saying
Even having watched griffy’s and other videos, and receiving help from discord, I, a software engineer, still had difficulty optimizing all the different mechanics. So I highly doubt a generic new player would have such mastery in 20 days to get to w5
And when do I active farm with ES, then? 😛
20 days to w5 is pretty much speed running
W5 took me 26 days i believe
as i said, when u feel like it
but i was trying pretty hard
brave just likes to argue
rewards go brrrrrrr
How long did it take Griffy to speed run with w4 being fully active?
Have you tried just headbutting through content? It's like the autoloot version of thinking
man no way we got try hards in an idle game bro
a week
the idle part of this game is a lie
yea tru
its all active if you want to make progress
as soon as u got tricked by that troll u know the whole game lying
heeey its idle until u unlock ES gameplay D:
nice, seems portraits aren't gonna take too long.
then u are doomed
What class?
might as well green stack them
yes, that is why it took him a week
if he hadnt played active he would have got there in less time
hmm, what class?

If I see BM I'm deleting my account
u said u watched his vids, watch again
"watched"
we do 
it was some kind of archer he pushed W3 on innit
i remember watching that video like a year ago when i started
any "free" game has try hards
haha same
😮💨 As long as it isn't BM I'm happy
i used to be one on that one free game
i remember that i watched it and copied what he did to reach w4 fast
it was hunter
can't BM in W3 
well i quit that game long ago lel
Too close 👀
He didn't do it during an event, correct?
i dunno i don't think so
What was his final damage#?
i was a naive 3 day old player, i didn't even know there were events
pro gamer move is never making an ES so you can enjoy game at a more leisurely pace
kkkkkkkkkk
I'm only barely able to hit 1.5M on sheet
Just delete it anyway👀
I'm ES main 😎
this is actualy true
ES gameplay is pure hell
not even autoloot makes it better
Tbf, you could just make 10 BMs
ES gameplay go brrrrrr
That's still playing at a relaxed pace
your forge ain't relaxed tho
@fierce oracle from 180k to this, pretty good. 150% to 180%
gstack it 

Is that really so bad tho?
Then do SB 🤷
maybe contract could do it? he has been at beans since beans release
Or do all pema beginners
moving to hampter farm after this maybe gonna get to like 10k then ill stop but even then that is a LOT to ask for even if i have 15.XX DR...
Hardstuck Midgame....
@signal osprey can u GS golden peanuts already?or get close to 😮
are you getting the recipe
I like having my forge take breaks so my characters can idle in town and talk to scripticus or whatever
How did you possibly manage alchemy?
You said you reached W5 in a week
Correct?
get those nothing hours up for fractal i get it
12 days f2p
(With autoloot 😉 )
to manage alchemy u reach w2 and start clicking alchemy
But that's not the point
doesn't seem like there was much time to even do noteworthy alchemy
u have material, u click
What was your water rate?
oh yeah it totaly sucked
my total dmg at the end of w4 was around 450k with shrines and everything else
What?
How did you even hit anything
You ran a BB I presume?
ive said this hundreds of times, how did u still not get it
ES, no way i'd do BB
noob :p
You have? 😅
BB w1-w3
ES - W4+
That I know
Adeepta thinking they can call people noob smh
yeah because active u need over 4M dmg to even be decent
But how did you even hit something?
i keep dying to molti's ig i need more fmj 
u go to a map, loggout, log in when map is done
hp pots and git gud
i can call him a noob without any reprecussions
yes, start hourly clicking FMJ
one of us, one of us
more max hp and higher hemoglobin
at a certain point getting more hp is needed over armor
show me dmg so i can pinchy it
maxed hemo 
more defense < beefcake
how'd you push through more than ten maps in less than an hour or two?
rite of passage is reaching tremor wurms and getting one shoted
consider the following
I find it more wild you would torture yourself by making a new account for a second run through, regardless if speed run or not
tf u saying
on bubo nah 💀
You got to W5 in 14 days, correct?
same that was on my ES
my bubo didn't get one shot when he reached tremors, it took at least a few good shots
prob 2 days
Its definitely possible but I dont think anyone is there yet and I know I'm definitely not. Been working on catching some other stuff up although I will be back at beans soon to boost the peanut stack for W6 bags
u go to a map, loggout, repeat
I'll probably just commit to the gstack then
WAIT I GET IT
that will be mad when u do it
thank you for the commitment
i played on web also
I wont be the first to do it though
With hp snapshots?
I know there are a few people a lot closer than I am
wait playing on steam counts as playing on web?
Nope
I'm too old for this convo
oh rly? thought u were one of the highest beans farmers here D:

the highest*
Nah I wish tho
I'm definitely one of the highest but there are a few who are higher
How old are you?
That's my line, doofus
is there a difference between web and steamplay for that stuff?
To slow
Just the challenges
not enough hp 😦
Achievements *
thats cool , hopefully w6 will release some new mechanics where farming will get better again
I remember trading lobby certs in Runescape, which was only browser based at the time
multiple foods?
I remember playing wii sports ❤️
with this many pots i can just bout tank 5 hits instead of 4
@jade folio I've gotten many, many, many ToS violators removed from this server
HP card? and food power set?
Tos?
Ohh, terms of service
let me try that
Discord ToS requires people to be 13+
Party hat gang
this in star talent like dooter said helps
Scales quick too
pray you get one over 100 is all
Didnt even know that was a thing, then again i dont really bother reading Tos anymore
i got 150 but no star pts to spare
Around the time discord came out I graduated college
reached 6k
you can "snapshot" this talent on the class
wont it be reset when entering a new map?
what even is snapshotting? I hear it mentioned frequently
no it is kinda like the archer and anvil points
recording your stats then changing it midway
kinda
Lava code
so my star talent points will stay can i change presets or does it have to be on the same preset
like adeepta said but usually used for mining and chopping cause they scale off HP and MP respectively and help you get better gains due to bubbles scaling off hp and mp
i dont remember the specifics but i have enough points on the first tab now i can leave like ~50ish points in it at all times
glad to have helped a lil
thanks but i spawned a crystal so now hes dealing half my hp with one hit :p
Easy, kill it
sounds about right honestly
1 bil hp 😦
wow this is not bugged :3
23k kills needed afk'ing would take about 4 hours cant fig out how much time active will take :C
the bar just adjusts to the crystal's acc needed but the value doesn't 
fifty hours
u are welcome
hows you know 🤔
do any of these stupid bubble make my big meatboys meatier or am I getting hp purely from str bubble
i dont remember seeing a hp boost bubble to be honest
but isnt active>afk unless you get one tapped?
if u have your own opinion why did u ask
In y’all’s opinion what is the single best statue in the game?
either take it as true or dont ask questions e_e
running statue because I wanna go fast
alr..
chopping statue
feasty
feasty also pretty good, boosts running foods
not much by end game standards but I have 150k drumstick statues to drop off after I finish onyxing and I'm looking forward to it
feasty
Feasty gives more move speed than the move speed statue
fixed my typo

is there an armor stone that boosts the MISC bonus reliably or do i just have to make a ton and gamba? cause i wanna up the DR from efaunt helmet cause kruk armor is still a long ways away for my DR mostly cause i am waiting on certain classes to get to kruk in the first place and enough dmg to reliably do kruk
gamba
But believe me, armor is not how you get tons of DR
didnt even know u could change the misc effect of an item
i know i just wanna push the next breaking point of items and stuff is all mostly statues
Misc stones cant roll the misc bonus on crafted gear so it doesnt work on efaunt helm
i honestly dont bother with them and just stick to the world stones instead of the rando's
damn all good then i guess ill just push the DR alchemy bubble for my next breakpoint
just keep working on the basics of DR, that way u will be at 20+ in no time
What about Midas touch and the weekly boss star talent?
Is there nothing I can do to increase the chances further for borger unlock?
yeah right now my shrine is lacking as it is only lvl 16
more dna honestly it is the fastest way out of all of those and the next one is egg rarity
you can cook. Jesse
you're effectively limited by which upgrades you've unlocked
Unlocks require more levels
Exp is increased by unlocking more pets
It's a rather circular process 
although I'm probably thinking of new recipe chance instead of new pet odds
i was lucky enough to get a lvl 100 talent and midas slowly but surely i am leveling it up when i get the charge for it with the dune souls
just dont want the enemy HP to outscale my dmg right now is all
nvm yeah there's some meal bonuses for pet odds
exp for trap collected increases depends on which critter you put the trap for or they give all the same?
Depends on critter yeah, later is better
and how do i unlock the last one?
void helm or adonrment of high priest
kay everyone goes to beans now for genes
depends on critter and if you wanna push exp do it on Vman with his talent active
5 days for over accurate crit 😭
chocies blob quest
on w4 choccie map, blobfish questline
for talent active you mean r/l hand?
i am pretty sure most people do Gmush for genes because of the double duty and they usually do it with SB but if you want to max your gene production then frogs technically give more but why would you do that when you can push more Gmush
the transfusion from maestro tab
transfusion
natural on blob best exp for trapping iirc
also true
I have no idea why Lava decided to change critters like that
does cranium cooking affect sigil exp gain?
Got bonked with automod
are dreadlo version traps actually worth it?
im stupid, i never did that facepalm
Not that I recall
doesn't ruin the other skills tho?
from what i know it is just for the efficency of it i believe
did blob critter exist before w4 release? ;O
nvm is an active so whatever
No, but a completely seperate NPC is confusing!
Since now, for W5-8
We need a trapping NPC




