#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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Can all stars become infinity signed? Because I just leveled one of my shiny infinity signed pets and I have 4 stars left to make infinity. However, 2 more didn't become infinity when the shiny pet upgraded.
is it normal for me to be attempting to get eldritch fury relic at like 0.03% chance
May need to cloudsave
First time getting to 19 snail
Ahh yes that fixed it! Thanks!
is this a permanent feature? or when W6 comes out candies won't be allowed and W5 will start allowing them?
the latter
How do I check my Giant Monster rate?
shows up at the bottom of your stats if prayer is equipped
Oh, I didn't equip any prayer, I thought they are considered as Equipped if I don't equip any?
It should show up in your char info, if not, IE would prob have it
no more prayers doesnt have the curses, giants are also the curse
Is no more prayers from the rift?
superbits in gaming
Thanks, Slowly progressing in my gaming
np it comes with time. its not a good bonus rly so better to learn which prayers are good to use
has some endgame niche uses but thats about it
Just got to W5, and was lucky enough to get dooted, so now I got all my characters sitting in lab, getting Div, so got a long ways to go before I start endgame stuff
Any tips for gaming, Researching? Should I try to get it as close to 100 while it is still slightly within reach?
its done now onto w5
its usually best to do lower percentage tries for new plants
quantity of attempts over quality
yep. the scaling of plant dna falls off pretty hard
69
Welp you can't ever upgrade it again
how will I get to 696969 if i stop now
You speak the truth, proceed
thank you gatekeeper
proceed ancient Canadian monkey
What would the resource requirement even be for that?
1b iron 
a lawtta cheddah
I am a long ways off, I don't even have iron ore
does doot bypass purrmep's 1 at a time policy?
save some chest slots for iron so that you can do more than 1 hourly click per hour 
purrmep bypasses doot, so you need to have 1 char connected to doot
understood, thank you i wouldnt have thought of that
You still need a character connected to Purrmep, so no Doot does not bypass
if only it worked like that 
but everything else ,i can unlink from everyone else just aesthetically
doesn't it work like that if you have multiple slots filled with like 10 iron?
i know with empty slots it doesnt count
printer will only fill up first slot of whatever you're printing up to 1050m
people with 10 stacks of copper have to do it one stack at a time and its only for the talent
thats why they're called hourly clicks
after laary 510+ whats a good bubble to invest atoms on ?
doing quick slap for a while but idk does not show much progress
would be cool if i could click 238 times an hour 
skilling bubbles or laaarry to 1100
wtf
at least my grandchildren will have something to do
that's a lot of oak
this bubble is pain so hard to make bars progress =[
that's me changing every log slot to oak hehe, meme number
ik, but even then
whats your skull at?
candy gmush on sb for forge progress + crafting + gmush kills
oh, makes sense
does active archer get same results or its a bad ideia ?
one day my skull will get that high(its a lie)
iirc active archer doesn't replenish the forge or something like that, its not as good
if you need candy for other stuff, what i did was use 1h candy for forge and the other candies for other stuff
also only lvl this bubble with discount tags
i see.. some ppl said to 2m SB on gmush or something
but damm every 2 min is insane
yeah if you really don't want to use candy 2m is the most efficient way, but that requires an amount of effort that most people don't want to do
so 1h candy is the next best
Today marks a beautiful day
get all 3 archer and do 2m 
easy way to get insane fast
should you just candy the w3 statues?
i found active ES much better
Okay, I've heard that, just wasn't sure if there was a better option
active ES is still slow, if you want instant results then burning candy is another option
I'm down to just the w3/5 statues and I want the dopamine from having all statues onyx
#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ message this post has some stats from when he got the onyxes, so you can look to estimate how long it'll take you to get each statye
does anyone just so happen to know what lvl beholder statue i'd need for 200% crit chance
according to these stats... my account is trash
just from the statue it's high, but you don't really need 200% just from it
do you have all the DR obols and cards maxed? it's problably a good idea to max these before doing w3 statues
dr obols yes, but no ruby cards yet
...oops
how long does it take you guys to onyx kachow statue just wonder ?
not very long if you finish the monolith quest twice
it takes completing the questline on 2 chars
As long as it takes you to complete the quest twice, yeah
oh
which is about quick
accuracy statue and w3 statues most annoying cause can't just dk them and laugh
you don't get accuracy statue from w1 crystal ? i must remember it wrong then
the oceanman i found easy but this trapping on w3 i just drop it out and will wait until 17+ dr
If Bubo is active in lab using bear or goat god, does he keep his line width boost and EXP to others talents?
accuracy statue is just from like sticks, nuttos, wood mush
yes
even if he's not in lab, as long as the talent is leveled he keeps it
Green and Purple don't required the Bubo to be in the lab in the first place 
probably also pobox and colo but uh, that's probably not a viable path
what is the best way to get w3 boss chaotic card to lv max
thanks y'all
vman? really?
Highest DR and Jman tree has a talent for card chance
ok
vman best for farming bosses since you can't really make us of dk orb
Potentially can do that, assuming the reasoning for it is candying the bubble?
@fierce oracle done 
Is there a clear winner between these or spend points into both?
I'm not
whats the ideal map for w5 statues? worms?
Bits is better at the start. Keep them within ~100 cost though. Once you reach 5x bits, go all into speed
How far are people pushing hearty dig? up to 99%?
Since you can hourly that, yes in theory. I just got 98% and stopped to print more oaks for atoms personally
I know Contract got it to 99% already
is it worth just dumping PO boxes on everyone into lab to 100 if im grinding lab out rn got ~400 boxes total to work wit
is there anything worms map can't do?
is there a guide for how to get more cooking XP? I dont want efficiency or cooking speed i just want to lvl up my cooking for the rift bonus
is party drop rate boost only for event bosses?
Balloons
Ballons to 15 -> Black Pearls to 30 -> Red Pearls to 50 -> More balloons forever.
Cooking Balloon setup
Cards: Doubled Mush + Chaotic Efaunt + Medium Resources set
Star Signs: Doubled 6% and 3% skill exp star signs
Prayers: Balance of Proficiency and Unending Energy
Trophy: Doubled W4 completion trophy
Acorn hat, Spring nametag, Blooming Vine or Kattle Cape
Meals worth pushing beforehand: Cheese and Mashed Potato
you forgot to mention crying but yeah balloons
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Ah, yes salt to season
we can't divine pearl breeding why?!
So stupid question, but hypothetically, can you get choco chip from the gem shop chips?
you can get all chips from gem shop pile
is it worth the gamble? If hypothetically I had gems already?
it's fine if you want to
uhhhh it can be, I get a set of card doubler chips when gambling
hypothetically you can farm as many gems as you want from world bosses 
Just missed the one last week I take it? ๐ฆ Best of luck
not really worth gambling but yeah, do as you want
not choccy but definitely nice to have
I think I also got a boost movespeed if under 170 chip tho so ymmv
theres also this one coming up
yeah soon
if you miss that one, next one is in like a year 
choc chip kinda overrated, best chip is doritos sweet chili
i raise you miss vickies spicy dill pickle
Taiwan!
Whatcha doing there?
I never really got into pickle chips, in terms of weird chips flavors Canada has some real solid ketchup chips I didn't expect to like and Columbian has mayo chips that are surprisingly salty but also have like no salt?
wait why isn't there a bobjoepickle chip speaking off
i like chips, but only the spicy one
so i dip it in my secret sauce made from pure pounded chili + lemon juice
if someone is friends with lava next time he adds to lab get that bobjoepickle chip in there
next time you are in Canada, you gotta try miss vickies. salt and vinegar is also pretty good
You can get them stateside although not sure if you can get them in my area specifically.
best pet set up for 4 pets 115 wave ?
but I mean I'm always down to try some chips, spicy dill sounds fun
pickles are vile
change lemon to lime and this is just called being hispanic
these are all right too, no one knows what flavor these are but they're a Canadian classic
"no one knows the flavor" like there isn't a picture of the main ingredients on the bag
trust me it doesnt taste like any of the ingredients on the bag
Are you from Quebec? or is Canada just like prepared for francophones in general?
French is Canada's second language, we have French on everything like you guys have Spanish on everything
I know chips are exciting but someone answer this because I also need to know 
Ah, Ruffles
well well well Ni Hao
;3 There's tones for it
The language, I mean ๐
yeah yeah, hard to do on discord. My parents are moving back to Taiwan on Monday
oh, seriously?
this second one i dont have near close to it
Stuff there is so cheap, aside from dairy related products and eggs
You can try Rattler instead of Peapeapod
you can probably get away with 20k pet power
PeaPeaPeaPeaPod our helper
Taiwan you say
But note that, with Rattler, it becomes RNG
Actually decent bao you say
taiwan is just fake china
Arena is ALWAYS RNG
What type of bao, though?
I'm not picky
Looter is, quite literally, RNG casting abilities
Didn't feel that needed to be stated
the entirety of breeding basically
Imagine getting alchemical 100x
China kinda OP because they looked at beans and were like, "what is this for? Dessert obviously" andd then they looked at bread dough and went, "how is this cooked? steamer obviously"
getting new pet, getting decent pet power, getting your shield to work to start unlocking spices with monolithic, arena
Ancient China basically created hamburgers
But marginally better
hamburgers are from hamburg
If Lava doesn't add Oriental food to W6 town vendor, or red pandas, I will be excruciatingly depressed
I just find the beans thing funny because there's a slur for Hispanic folk based on us eating beans and like, China is over here like "This is a dessert food" and it slaps so hard

get you some mung bean bao
~kinda? We usually use red bean as a sweet component
I know, I've eaten a few red bean sweets and they're very lovely
you keep saying hispanic and all I want is some birria tacos now
You've never had them fresh
Only tacos 
I've had them fresh, everyone in Houston is from somewhere else
or do you mean fresh red beans
Here in FL all I can get in a 10 mile radius is Hamburgers and Pizza
OH! YOU LIVE IN HOUSTON?
yes it rules
Research question- Has anyone recently completed the 20 Gstack or 75GStack equinox dreams and willing to share which they used? Profile link is great
That's my birthplace ๐ซก
hello my brother in Houston, fuck Dallas btw
๐ซก
rip payday 3 is apparently not doing well
I haven't been to a HEB in three years
HEB is so weird to explain to non texans cause you're like, "you know how you can't buy McDonald's branded big mac sauce in stores? In HEB you can buy Whataburger spicy ketchup"
I think I'm fucked
nice wave reached at least
Was there an option somewhere to make it so your boats keeps sailing and upgrading your chests instead of stoping at max chest amount?
SB talent
Thank you
๐คฃ Ikr
Oh, and how are the fire ants?
There's a lot less in Fl
yes, is a SB talent but I think I've heard it's not great because to get artis you basically just have to spam chests as much as possible regardless of chest rarity
No problems with ants for me, Texas and Florida are basically the same state except one has guns and one has iguanas and basilisks
Who would care about Whataburger spicy ketchup
It is like 1% spicier than just plain ketchup.
it's nice for making bbq sauce
trust, making your own bbq sauce is surprisingly easy and it kicks the shit out of any store bought bbq
maybe if you live somewhere with shitty bbq
yeah hahaha
I live in Houston
slaps knee well yeee hawww
If you're making bbq with that weak ass "spicy" ketchup and think it tastes better than literally anything, I can only imagine you have shitty bbq
*One has guns, one has gun.
I think Texas is probably okay on the bbq front given I've seen Chinese influencers eating Texas style bbq and it's probably the most well known form of bbq in general (at least for American bbq)
Boiling water deals with fire ants, I figured out, too late
Ah
Tbh, I don't like using grills too much
all the juices just go into the fire
I prefer pans, more even heat applied
i actually like the mustard based carolina bbqs a lot too
Wok is best ๐
helps that i lived there for a few years and had a hole in the wall place near me with it
yeah the mustard base stuff rules especially for pork
do i keep decanting 
Never stop
What cauldron levels are you up to now?
379
500 minimum before you are allowed to stop

I think I have like 76-77 around there, if you still need. Will send profile when I get home in about an hour or so
Would be appreciated, thanks!
I clicked my liquid tab to check what level my decants at and didnt notice it was on top of hide dmg from TD
RIP fps
yea
why do i feel like this isnt actually multiplicative 
I guess this was a somewhat recent accomplishment for me. I used skilling mats that were easy to gain (ores, logs, souls to an extant) and then just kinda went map by map getting mat gains until. I had 75 stacks mid w3
Steak is so good
damn shimmer kinda sucks
That's why I just take the Base stats 
I have 82 greenstacks rn so my 75 attempt is mostly still in bank with a few minor exceptions, how to send profile for your research?
Do you have a public IE or IT?
I can do IE
I shall sleep now, goodbye my friends ๐ซก
Just updated, the minor stuff is like letting iron ore dip below 10m, probably a couple mob drops too
Thanks!
oh fuck I'm almost down by 3m forest fibres from greenstack wtf
getting close 
looking things over I went for all ores, all logs, all small/medium fish, bugs (I'm at like 1m scarabs so I don't know if I did w5 bugs or if I just like used a lot of them in crafting). And then yeah, the first two souls, mob mats, also probably the grilled cheese nomwich since you can literally just buy a greenstack of it every day
Is it possible to get 200 green stack ๐ฅบ takes forever
I know it's possible to do so without relying on greenstacks from quest items
these are all my gs quest items
missing a lot of potential non quest gs items too
so definitely possible
trying to stack bday cards instead of reading them 
you dont go all in on the eff?
The cards come from grandma 
but why not scoli
oh hmm
I still level some Eff but prefer the base stats first
yea eff is starting to cost too much now
I'm honestly not entirely sure how base stat increases can be powerful but I'm curious
can't really lvl it
By endgame, you've got several hundred% stat increases. To my understanding, every point in stat is worth more than the last is
For damage, for HP, for mana, for skill efficiency
ah, did you share a tool earlier to see how bonuses or whatever in game? I thought someone did
https://idleoninsight.com/ This one?
Search every bonus in Idleon!
ah yes probably ty
oh this interface is horrible but after a nice night of sleep it'll be fun and perfect for me, thanks for all you do to help folks figure things out
now I can go back to hourly clicking
you gotta save atoms for when you unlock the last superbit
only need 330m atoms for lvl 30 fluoride
you got 11 10 more lvls
that's a problem for future me
is unending loot search good? i heard it wasnt good but idk
It is situational
its good when you are done with sailing artifacts 
only 330? niceee i thought it was like 400-500 or so
ok then i dont think i should use it
might be 400-500 without reductions, I don't actually have it unlocked so it's just hazy secondhand knowledge
same, im hoping w6 gives us enough of a bit bonus so i can insta get level 30 flouride
Anyone else's pet arena's get lagged out by looter procing flashy multiple times?
it completely crashed my game earlier-
would need like 10b samples lol
im at 183m particles atm, and im getting about 3.5m a day
i've been done with hourly clicking for a while
are you on mobile? I haven't had that happen on steam client
whyd you stop? hit some milestones or just bored with the game?
yeah just lost some of the motivation that i used to have for the game
I was on steam with performance mode on
It had a bunch of the boomerangs out and procced on flashy like 3 times in a row
dont even keep my pc on overnight anymore
yeah I'm burning out too, I used to do 50 clicks in 2 days, now i do 50 clicks in 2 weeks
its much less stressful after you let go of hourly clicking
join me in boycotting w6 if resource cap isnt removed
im down to boycot w6 for no reason 
resource cap being removed would be amazingly fun
Until he removes it on alch bubble costs too
100k mainstat bubbles in a couple days haha
Is a much better game when your afk screen looks like this
That would be such a ladderpull
So I just unlocked superbits, what are the achievements it's talking about? The ones in tasks?
what is hourly clicks
Achievements
How do you stop your siege breaker from spending 25 on the flag?
isn't that just the speed of a boat?
Trying for achievement
you have to get rid of the boost from vman
Vman Enhancement Eclipse is causing that. Unspec / change talent presets
its where you print 1b+ of a resource so every hour when your printer procs, you can click a bubble, or up to like 15 bubbles
and then take it a step further by cycling your omni procs for more printer procs for more clicks
Thanks lol
I liked it better when hourly klicks was a nautical term than an idleon pro gamer move
It's OK everyone who hourly clicks eventually burns themselves out then either quits hourly clicking or quits playing altogether
Been that way since Dot quit in like March
so you're saying that by being too lazy for hourly clicks I'm eventually going to be most OP player in game
yeah, i managed to go to like 5-6k mainstat bubbles and a few other skilling bubbles then the burnout hit
can't burn out if you never push yourself hard enough to burn out
Natural progression of any game really. You play long enough you become endgame because the pioneers quit
I'm old, I don't see a game, even a grindy online one, as something that needs to be bulldozered through
it's not my job to be good at the game, it's just to enjoy the game at my own pace in my own way. Nothing can burn you out if you don't make it your job
and then you see that you're rank 5 on the leaderboard and you're close enough to rank 4 to pass them
and now you might as well put in the effort to get to rank 3
and now you're rank 3, might as well go all the way
I literally don't know how to even see the leaderboard lol
you might also be the only player in the game
you can be the TerrorJoker of IdleOn 
wanna know how I got these hourly click scars?
I did it!!
I think idleon is fine in the long term as long as there's room for people to feel like it's okay for things to take time and for progress to take time and it's okay if they're not top 10 leaderboard or whatever
I'm generally not a fan of leaderboards in otherwise non-competitive game. I get some people enjoy them, and I sometimes peek just for frame of reference, but it doesn't drive me.
I honestly just wanna get pretty great at vman speedruns
It certainly will demotivate me though, seeing how far behind I am sometimes
yea, that's also why I check LB, also to see what dumb thing I could get there because there's not enough peolple that hate themselves enough to go for it
for me w5 chat is just people wildly ahead of me or people wildly behind lol, so I don't sweat being behind
it's min bubble 20 or min bubble 2000 in these here parts and I'm just working on min bubble 200
Then there's me that actually has a level 1 bubble still-
okay what the
lvl 1 bubbles are good for not proccing NBLB on shitters
I remember making this picture as a joke months ago but now it is my reality
Oh wait, I have at least 4 level 1 bubbles xD
I like how your original sentence said "this bubble"
PTSD from hourly clicks or something
i have matrix evolved and bite but not chew, i wish i had anvilnomics and lil big damage too
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yellow damage club
hopefully you're an entertainer so you can enjoy being ready to POP
this looks like a baby gorilla twerking and I need it to be fake
kinda low damage for lvl 200
no nobisect, missing bunch of sailing artifacts, waiting on daily shops to get stamps
im 120 and almost double that with my ES
congratulations?
yes
๐ heres your medal friend
https://johs.idleonefficiency.com - very suboptimal f2p account, just been playing within bursts of motivation.
Thank you!
average pet power recommended for 4 pets to hit 115 for equinox? I don't have access to peapeapod pet yet, is that necessary?
when this question appeared earlier I believe rattler was suggested but also stated to be more rng
Rattler can work too. Probably need closer to 20k to pull off. You rely on Looter for shielding, healing, damage regardless so both comps are RNG based. You may have to try several times
Do the Arctis and Goharut divinities work together to make it so I can get lab and divinity exp without being in either?
if you have peapod you can problably do it
Gotcha, thanks
Damn that anvil tab 4 needs a lot of green refinery salts
gotta start focusing on cycle speed
If I have weekly reset. Can I unlink twice on one character or only once a week per character?
uh, did you read the original message where they said they don't have peapod?
no lol
i can't read
without peapod is kind of rng reliant so you need to retry a lot
rattler was recommended as the substitute and it was made clear it was rng dependent
when g stakcing monster rating, did you just do it the same time as the Golderich quests?
pray for me ive started getting my bm to 500...
gz huge bm
hi guys shit alch which bubbles shd i prio first (ik i shd lvl everything but what shd i prio)
https://jesusholder.idleonefficiency.com
skilling multi bubbles and class multi bubble 2
@vagrant mountain
what attacks do you guys have in order for active bubo?
what are class multi bubble 2
Respawn, aura, ghost and CC
that... is pretty long
I did monster rating while doing sand castles yeah
sand castles were the only ones I did for goldrich because I could do most of it with DK
yeah fair, i am lucky to have my ES
think I got 4m active on DK then used candy on SB for rest of the 6m
monster ratings a lot faster than cards
you rekcon?
not sure if it was because of crystals though
so this?
might do sandcastles on my DK
put cranium first but yeah
monster ratings are taking forever for me ๐

that aint my current setup lmao
who is that god at the top right, daym he touched everyone
bruh
cranium works for charging sigils?
nah
It worked in the first few hours the sigil launched
But it was a bug and lava quickly fixed it
finally ๐
would be nice ngl
some sigils are extremely good but most are meh
Replace 1 and replace 2
400k increase :0
400k increase from 1 bubble is quite good :>
best w2 map to active dk on?
tysons is best crystal map, but sand pots is not that bad and also gives glass shards
i thought it might be tysons, ok, just wasnt sure
sand pots seemed really slow lol
Thanks
Maybe lava will let us buy more filter slots lol
lets gooo ๐ช
now to stop being noobified
ill remove noobified when i get a good bubo
it's a cracked bubble
time to unlock lithium to upgrade it ;D
lithium only needed if you have bipolar disorder tbh
if i unlock every artifact till fury and then ancient all of them except fury and use the gem shop purchase of ancienting an artifact wont i get a guarranteed ancient on fury?
probably, not sure though
I believe this is indeed how it works
could even skip artifacts all together as well
instead of ancienting everything else
Power of DK
if it does ancienting fury will take lot less time than i thought but first i actually have to ancient everything b4 that so it'll be a huge pain
pro tip: if you don't care about progress you are doing well in terms of progress
This is true but getting the last 4 ancients is significantly harder than fury
is the vip membership required for over accurate crit 125%
true but rn my main goal is setting up bubo and fury is a big part in that plus ill have to ancient it sooner than later
Yeah so just bite your teeth and put all your ships on it
gotta get more speed least 150k i believe
how do you bite your teeth, they're the bitey part of your face
with effort
For my next trick I'll smile my nose and sneeze my eyes
gambling makes my... uh something... suggestive
The sailing UI is so shit...
welcome to w5 
Enjoy
it's a feature
not a bug
Welp, I broke time
I had it so my daily reset was at midnight in my timezone (using silver watches) and now it's somehow set to 3:30 am- I haven't even had silver watches to use since I got it set all nice... (I've tried restarting my game and it didn't help)
poggers m8
welcome to desync!
Enjoy
usually a good ol restart fixes my desync and gives me back the time I lost but with that not working... I'ma need some bigger bags and to remember to actually filter stuff when going to sleep lol
what colo is best to hit?
Make sure not to click the Companion Dog in W1, when you have desyinc
W2 for Candies, W3 for Gems if you farm bosses
W2 Colo: Don't use Midas, Jawbreaker or Big Brain Time. Thank me later
Is there a bug or something? would have assumed Midas would be good for the added DR
an unintended gameplay feature
Midas increases HP from Monsters and those skill nodes have invisible hp
So a round takes a minute to finish
the hp ticks down by a set amount per second before it vanishes, and more hp doesnt make the ticks bigger
any hp modifying prayer makes colo slow and jank
Ahhh, that actually explains alot
only w2, and it makes the skilling nodes last longer. Be precise or don't "add" anything to an already explained problem
you can use midas for w3 colo with no issues, just make sure to unequip any +hp prayers before doing w2 and you should be fine
well level 2 to 101 talent library speedrun while activing dk begins ig
It seems likely to me that it's difficult for most people to perfectly recite game mechanics for every aspect of play. I do my best.
I also do my best to acknowledge that I make mistakes and often times more experienced folk have better answers
my issue here is that after the correct answer was given, you decided to jump on and give your dumbed down answer. It helps nobody, and only creates an environment with uninformed dumb players
are checkout speed alchemy bubbles worth investing into
This one?
Idk if you know this but sometimes typing takes time
yea
don't care, my point still stands.
how much do you have right now?
i got it at 50 and its giving me 45%
about 6d but it'll keep decreasing cos im going to 101 my talent library rn
You reckon W1+2 Mini bosses will ever give unique obols like the others do?
idk what your point is tbh, Xaya gave the first answer before either of us and she generally gives good advice
yeah I was just about to say 6 days sounds like it's more of an library level issue
but it wont hurt by leveling the bubble too
my library is 120 something iirc
The only thing I did wrong was type slower than you
probably not 
its 5 days now so slowly decreasing
you see, the difference here was I was adding additional context to help the person with the question understand the actual issue.
if you're gonna throw a tantrum because someone wants to help, but isn't always 100% right, and tends to recommend people seek better guidance like
wrong. You only didn't add anything of value, you dumbed down the answer already given, which was my point from the beginning
I gave the best info I had
Dads stop fighting
You only didn't add anything of value, you dumbed down the answer already given, which was my point from the beginning
your point is just that I should stfu and let you talk
ooh its the funny man with the funnier pfp 
which is fine whatever, but I had no ill intent, wasn't trying to give bad info, and was legitimately doing my best to help others
nope! You are more than welcome to give advice if it adds value to the person asking the question ๐
I think good advice for you would be to go outside and touch grass
The road to dumb idleon players is paved with good intentions
mega true 
I have no ill intent towards you either. I just dont want people not understanding the answers that they are given
omg I just 1%d flutterbis a week after I got mureep with a 25 
also if we both want to help people and give good advice, why spend so much time putting me down when you could just explain things to me, as you're apparently fine with doing for others, so then we can both give better feedback for people
Huge, we have same gods now 
4 days now ๐
4 days till 150 all chars?
hey nino you feeling better?
When you could just explain things to me
I did explain to you that your advice was not helping. The explanation for the question asked was also given
Huh? Got it like after 3 weeks or so? Feels like good rng.
lucky af
this is perhaps not the most diplomatic option
still a lot needed for that
btw thanks for HH, never killed grand frogger the fourth so fast
ty for hh too
I usually just go into a random team and assume it's my job to carry 
I can try to be more diplomatic in the future, sure
this also doesn't particularly explain anything other than explaining I'm a moron, which is honestly true, but it's not going to help me give better info in the future
when did this happen 
it was explaining that the answer you gave was not helpful, and why it was not helpful. Has nothing to do with you personally
and if you take it personally, that's on you
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But I already said I will try and be more sensitive in the future
I didn't like intentionally give a dumbo answer just to get attention, I wrote the best info I had and posted, like, I'm still learning myself, I want others to have good info too
if you want me to be more diplomatic in the future, I strongly suggest you stop arguing right now
I don't really care if you are or not
did I misunderstand this?
I'm gonna give the best advice I can, note that others could give better advice, and given that w3/4 peeps regularly come here because they can't get answers in their own chat I'm just going to try to help them too
I believe I once saw someone have like over 100/hr? Am I missing something?
The road to dumb idleon players is paved with good intentions
with liquidsvesment
In lab?
the road you're paving is mainly just you being bitchy
equinox bonus
great argument! You sure won now lil buddy 
I have that one max tho!
ty I know I did, either give advice or don't, and don't have so much arrogance that if someone accidentally gives the wrong advice you shit yourself
regardless of intentions, not using +hp% prayers on w2 colo still stands tho, like theres no alternative to it, it seems
then u need a good bubo and let liq fill up
pretty sure there was a bug associated with that equinox bonus that let players get more liquid than they should have. Not possible to reach 100/hr anymore
OHHH RIGHT-
that should keep levelling up rate and capacity
I sometimes keep forgetting people afk on bubo
my sailing gains have stalled, should i upgrade loot instead of tunnel vision speed upgrade?
Bubo makes my brain go brrr
yeah I found out the hp prayer thing recently. Too many colo runs just sitting waiting for mobs to spawn 
Only I don't have autoloot :/
Gotta be active for CC to do anything
Im at 110 liquid per hour on cauldron 1 
So afking on bubo makes my game freeze up after a certain amount of hours :/
bubo cranium cooking with lab bonus deactivated fills it up pretty fast
keeps levelling up rate
what hp prayer thing, whats the thing?
Midas Minded is one of them
if you're ever going to spend money on the game autoloot is what to spend money on. But if you want to be straight f2p it's okay, you shouldn't feel pressured to buy shit
i mean what is the point of having the prayer for bubo?
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theres a few prayers that modify hp, apparently they all cause problems with world 2 colo, also you should probably be using DK for colo cause of orb
droprate have a money multi for every odd dr
so like 5.xx 7.xx 9.xx and so on
imagine not using all the HP prayers
Yea I bought something once but I think I'm now shadowbanned?? and idk how to fix the issue, I can't do stuff with other players anymore (such as dungeons etc)
I wish I could help but that's not something I've ever heard of, I'm sorry
ok thank you make sense, what about my sailing gains question? it slowed down a ton even tho im starting to get sailing progress procs
are you okay with repeating the question?
are you claiming all your characters every 2 hours? sending boats only to 2h locations?
another level on mason jar made me be able to hold 1,5m 
whats the %all stats bonus from holding 1.5m
Thats fine!! Honesly idk where to go for that issue!
This server doesnt really have a "open ticket" or whatever
depends on how much gold food effect bonus you have
damn
yes i am
okay that looks very nice
but my stamp is pretty low
Howโs your bubble
my instinct is always to test things, so go to w4 town grommit (cheese) 8 and let's see if we can at least make a party

not really any question, just my sailing gains slowed down, and even tho im starting to build up sailing gains proc, it doesnt feel like its moving, and im stuck just before the island with fury artifact
What is your mason jar & golden apple stamp levels?
I'm there now!
Extra file for no reason 
one thing ie shows that it doesnt is the total cost for maxing a construction (i think)
look for East Virginia, that's my DK
just adding context to where your image stems from
Oh well where is that from 
think im lacking something 
the droprate calculator from jrohrer
levels
Yea I can see you! (Send you a dm btw!)
Oh I see
jrohs droprate video is really really good if you haven't seen it

seems like you're still able to interact and party up with others, I joined Adeepta's party just the other day
I donโt really care about the super intricacies of DR
the loot upgrade in sailing is as important as speed? or not at all?
speed is only important so you can reach the island and back in 2h
or whatever the lowest time is
ig ill start on this to not be time gated hard
if you're "shadowedbanned" then so am I, so is adeepta and all their other lil dungeon minions
loot is great for getting more materials to upgrade your boats
yes can eat again 
is this really guild negated 
about to unlock vman too
good for you 
i unlocked mine few days back ๐
eating overrated, starving new pro gamer move
just join a guild
just need a few more kills on my mman gmushes and the last enemy in w3 to 1m kills
been trying to crank my Bubo's defense.....
I could candy it both and get it over with now but Ehh just letting it go
think my dmg is finally better now 
For shadow bans they can see you but you canโt see them
You also wouldnโt get the party invite they sent
we successfully partied
nice I gained alot too where you at
whats your highest dmg rn 
you first :>
can get my ele to about 158m dps
whats it at now? because bubo doesnt rally need defence that much
whats theeir raw max dmg :3
4692
raw max damage?
and what are you trying to do with it?
active tremors
like this :p
gonna join starve squad soon
do you have alot of talents point too spare
aint no way you have 158M max dmg rn 
gonna make some bread tomorrow then hide from the world and just eat bread a bit when hungry
ik setup for crystal farming st
because this really helps you not need defence
atm
my statues gonna be OP after bread saga
maxed at 146 righ tnow, waitin on books
but..werent you 20 mil last 2 weeks or so
ye
and you still die? at tremors
you increased it by 3 times ๐ญ
crystals
whats your hp at?
your min dmg is my max ๐ฆ
and if I switch to my damage set that's like 170% total damage
how did you do it ๐ญ
in pic but 13308
oof your level is like 3 times mine
@cobalt nymph then 54 from the 2nd card
ooooooohhh then thats def your problem.... i have 122k hp on my bubo
how?
i havent gotten those ๐ฆ
my ele sorc is lvl 364 atm the card doublers are insane
I got then over my 3 weeks of gamba
i gotta be missing something big if my bubo has literally 10% your HP
oh didnt see that you send pic
i got this recently @cobalt nymph
ye I'm using that one on plat which is 35%
and then using the card doubler on that to make it 70%
is it possible to get opal rings?
no.
your increase in dmg is nuts 
what about better armor or pendant?
heres my es ๐ฆ
the card doublers are insane.. it's how I got 250% increased crystal spawn now..
might want too upgrade this
and with that 80% damage I'm over 100m but I sticked with the drop rate because I also wanted cards to farm all plat cards
armor is stuck need things to make anything better (even diabolic don't have the parts for, let alone troll) pendant i mean there aint much in the def or even damage department. best id have access to is chiz scarf off another char.
Damn Ruby card huh did you unlock rift 50 alr?
W5 statues feel more time consuming than w1/2/4 
Unlocked scims yet?
How..I'm at 16
because I've neglected it xd
well diabolic is usually avoided, because it isnt really good, i would say chz scarf for the damage, and then make sure hemoglobin is maxed
scims give a lot of dmg tbh
Is this skill mastery unlocked?
almost..
all my chars put 50 in hemo as soon as it was avail lol
I got stuck back then cause my dk couldn't get 180orb kills
same
you need orb 140 prob
Go get skill mastery nerd
but I mean that shouldnyt be a problem anymore
diabolic is better than skill armor - which is literally what it was using on the prior map. lol
Amarok > diabolic tbh
hm
@glad crow since the combo of diabolic and lustre gives me like 42% more defense, and i put a few cards on to make that higher
is your scims maxed..
not when fighting tremors
maxed no but in working on them
If you're at worms and still using amarok or diabolic you have larger issues
still stuck in bonus 2 on my side
I got my souls now doing 350k day and my salts have gotten up much higher since I got atom collide now
i JUST got to tremmies lol
my g cooking is getting going plat plating it all now
dmg increase has slowed down a TON i 3X it i the last 2 weeks got from 10 to 30 mil but now im stuck 
and i only used skill gear to do it ๐
more alch 
same whats your meal speed in the first table?
um lemme check
gonna finish skill bubbles first prob then go to dmg
get yourself some divine lol don't do worms with diabolic
155k speed @open lava
not possible
so i am doing it in lustre with diabolic chest.
this is unfortunate but I respect that you're going on anyway
I'm also getting a massive bonus from having most gods up to flutterbis now
do you have it ritchelined?
ritchelined?
ritchelin kitchen gem shop purchase triples your speed
This is gonna be long, boring, and painful to do. idk why I keep stacking them
um I think I have all the gem shop world upgrades ye
mine 550k rn :p
oh shit nice
finally a dub for me 
ye it took me a while getting it going..
cabbage,dia chef are massive
I gutted my cooking
the w4 bonus for super kitchens is basically what adeepta was poorly trying to talk about
to get choco chip
same
I got diamond chef ye in plating now
w going from 1st dish to last getting all diamonds
how many dia plates you have
managed to find a lil more to squeeze out both in DEF and Damage
watch the increases lmao im only at 10 rn and its giving me 400k speed ;p
oh nice you should probably get egg and corndog to a good level then focus cabbage 9might be wrong tho since im a noob :p)
hello I'm still trying to tease adee and call them a noob
Your kung fu is week Adee
yea
okay I'm done
i have 200k rn :3
pow10 turkey
arti from sailing
I was thinking in dumping alot of turkey after I diamond plated then in at 155k
mornin ppl
i can get to 1 mil in about 1 day
ye I got that artifact @open mountain
I think I have it ancient
it's quite good
is that buff even any good ? never paid attention to it
welp time for restles sleep and hope i don't end up in town. lol
im working on this rn
at least if you have some turkey
decent rewards
4 days now
I have most ancient atm
when will my stuff look like this ๐ฆ
how does it interact with vman buff ? I assume its not own multiplier
whatvl is your sailing? @open lava
pretty hard to get speed up ngl i think im at 30k rn
it's a separate multi iirc
level is 35 on sb not sure about the rest
it's account wide
also 35
so 35 on all ig
juet like gaming is etc
and breeding
breeding sucks ๐ฆ
I'm half a lvl of 30 breeding goes so slow
im at 25 i think
almost at 3 days rn
bro i have 5 artifacts
lmao
stingers where?
27 or 28 i dont remember
3 days what
what are stingers
checkout to 20
AAhh
I will throw 3 hour candy at my mman and go get it to vman then sleep
nice!
these u are supposed to use them on ur bubo to center ur aura when they are high enough lvl
but i like big numbers more
this gets u more kills iirc
but bubo likes being more efficient
but i like big numbers
but bubo likes big number on cc
id rather take big CC number than big damage number any day of the week
20 purbunnies but not even 4k bunnies fuck my shiny luck.-.
yep, because damage doesnt matter when you can o shot them
but big numbers make me feel good
I will soon have enough lab exp and distance to get everything then I can take them out and start leveling my chars again and focus elsewhere these weeks in lab felt so bad xd
big CC numbers yes
Dmg is overrated :p
thats what you have sb for
i just realised not so long ago that i have to get my dk to atleast lvl 10 for 31% dmg bonus from nobi fuck
that damage boost is very bad iirc
imagine beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg liquids and beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg boosts
its additive with alot of other stuff yeah
31% at lvl 10 div is worth it imo
My highest is 15k rn :3

Hey sakori
helo doge
Lunch break or something :3 ?
i made these 2 yesterday..... it was not fun
Even with a lustre axe i can't reach 1 mil samples
@open lava half of the portal done
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Wild, i can get like 1 mil samples on equinox tree on my dude who sucks at chopping without bothering to snapshot
no amount of gear will ever fix deficiencies in alchemy
i didnt get an arti yesterday buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut hopium prevails
nothing ofcourse.-.
What's his chopping eff
a new greenstack begins
My only lacking thing is hocus choppus cos stupid nails ๐ฆ
You'd have like 30 mil without that or something
no im at 78 without that xd
Well...his is 14B, so really wasn't expecting it to be that high. Kinda just upped him to level 65 for the dreadlo axe and ignored him
the screenshot I send earlier on my ES was with no damage
Haha yea 14 bil ๐ฆ I'm at 13 mil
Is progressing sample bubbles worth it after reaching 90% or should I focus on damage bubbles the n ?
I apologize, i kinda just view my account as bad since i gotta watch people dunk on me with insane numbers
one day you will be the one with insane numbers, trust 
You'll get there just like how I'll get 1 bil eff one day too
I take people having higher number as more of a goal than a setback :p
imho it's worth it until 95%, after that the requirements and returns are nowhere near eachother
Tbh, i know most of my low numbers come from how i just kinda ignore alchemy and the resource sink it is by letting nblb do its thing when i cant be assed to upgrade bubbles
Alchemy save us all 
someday you will be able to dish out pinchies, dont worry 
Nah, Ill do it now in W1 chat 
he probably has like 11 000 001
Ohh I'll go kill some more then
well i couldnt get there lmao maybe when my trapping is better
the equi mission for all wave 50 on all tds is hell
there is another for 121+ on all^^
0.o
we did it let's go
all wave 200 when, 120 too easy
sounds like construction exp issue
nice
Soon
whats your exp at?
inbefore w6 needs 200 more
time to donate it to bubo
not that much lower
Dont jinx it
nah, I am ready for it, id love if that was the case XD
@cobalt nymph yours?
Lvl 3 vial 
whats the best colosium to farm Kebabs?
Does the vial help the nothing from islands?
it really does nothing
I needed the copium, not the reality
it helps with "Nothing sowwy" bonus from cogs, there u feel better ?
My salvation, my only reason to keep going has been found
My favorite idleon lore is the story behind the nothing cogs 
I wish, does anyone still remember what that bonus used to be before it got changed?
Soon 
I assume I max out void trial speed run first on vman?
and then the boss kills thing
I'm on my phone and can't check the Google doc at
Maybe Aoe second, boss 3rd
I don't have enough pints atm anyway
so will max out the run first got that now and have 30 odd points left for now
still gotta do my first portal speed run tho
You should be able to keep making big leaps over that first week as you do multiple speedruns
I'll go attempt my first one now
see how it goes
my mman has low dps tho
it's still rocking the bandage weapons xd
before you do a spedrun
put points in tab 3 talent
first row last skill
it gives you bonus void points
extra skillpoints for tab 4
ye got those alrwsdy thanks tho!
I made it to the moons on w2
got another 570 skill points for my first run not bad
19 highs ore
if you switch to skilling preset, you must put 1 point into speedrun skill
otherwise you cant put points elsewhere
Nice one. Now use those points for a better speedrun again tomorrow
i think you might need to reset map too
btw...furthest portals opened for you now
furthest portal one char did open
it is ok if my first character is lvl 127 and my 7'th is 190 XD?
i had characters that were 550 while still having a 180
levels stop really meaning anything after a while
I think I fucked up about 10 of my GS 



