lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[vagrant mountain]

probably, if not close

[barren otter]

whats your eff now

[rough wasp]

Oh wait I still needa do dungeons so maybe I stop at 15k

[prisma drift]

[vagrant mountain]

i cant check

[hallow kite]

should i upgrade nblb if I can?

[south root]

Is there a best item to craft (not anvil produce) to push crafting levels?

[sick sentinel]

Cold seeker bullets

[pearl rover]

Doing TD rn, didnt the party starter tower used to have an indicator showing which towers in its range its buffing? I dont see any circle.

[keen rapids]

Why you like the purple one so much O_o

[snow light]

soul gum>coldseeker bullets i believe is the order

[barren otter]

i thought youd be done with div by now

[keen rapids]

Got a favourite ic

[prisma drift]

Most people have mage bias on bubbles tbh

[keen rapids]

but why \o/

Luck bubble is the best bubble \o/

[prisma drift]

Best atom producer

[heady plover]

Nobisects scaled skill eff is that applied after calculation?

[prisma drift]

Also best classes early game

[vagrant mountain]

gotta get level 194 now

[barren otter]

lol

[prisma drift]

194

[rough wasp]

When is +18

[barren otter]

your poor bb

[vagrant mountain]

[prisma drift]

A true Slave the the kitchen

[barren otter]

im nearly done

definitely not doing fucking +18

[rough wasp]

I’m just gonna get my BB to 128ish

So he can enjoy a +16

[snow light]

once all my toons unlock kruk which should be in a couple days here a week at most i was gonna leave everyone back in lab/div to get those levels up as well

farthest one back is my active DK cause i have been farming elsewhere

[hallow kite]

should i max no bubble left behind?

[snow light]

no real reason not to as it is a good way for your account to just level up and passivly get stonger over time by just being connected to a lab node or two

[proud pumice]

do you mean the atom upgrade?

the atom upgrade is not that big but it is cheap, so sure

[green stone]

think I may have needed to resample for a while 😬

[lapis elm]

vman? My brain is so good it's forgotten to resample 3 days in a row

I put a giant post-it on my monitor to remind me tomorrow

[rough wasp]

Then you take it off and don’t resample again

[south root]

How often should you be resampling?

[snow light]

i dont wanna resample till i feel i have made enough progress in my alchemy

[south root]

I do it ever couple weeks, espescially since I got the artifact that increases for every day I dont

[fast grail]

until you have over 1b id say about once every 2 weeks is probably oiptimal

[south root]

sweet, thats what I'm doing

[snow light]

i try to look at what my alchemy was and what it is now then i decide if i should or shouldn't or if i get new equipment for stuff

[dim wind]

or just go to the area, multiply your afk gainz by your sample rate, and decide if that gain is enough to offset the daily gains from the sailing artefact

[green stone]

yeah vman... I literally can't even remember when I did that last sample, probably not long after vman came out lol

[snow light]

true very true you are a smart player i should play like you but i am lazy

[dim wind]

im lazy too, only did that once

[vagrant mountain]

just realized i have 11/75

[dim wind]

wtf

[fast grail]

nah, i got one for slab/bis for dk, and that was it

[vagrant mountain]

but luckiest lad

[snow light]

another week another bean we thank xayayah for this bean we recieve today

[fast grail]

Ill work on that in w8 when that actually comes out

also got this last night, so can actually start candying bubbles

[vagrant mountain]

[proud pumice]

wouldn't you want one for bubo also? i'm thinking of making 3 for dk, bubo and vman

[little parrot]

Soon I shall fail to Aquire Doot again

[fast grail]

If i was optimal, probably, but dont care enough currently, too annoying to do inventory slots, maybe once we have more chest space

[proud pumice]

fair

[worn sonnet]

Need that luckiesterest lad

[signal osprey]

I just use divine trophy on bubo. DR isnt that different and the extra stats mean more money

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i only use orange lucky lad on DK and vman

[signal osprey]

Mines just on DK. Vman uses skill afk/exp trophies because thats his only purpose in life

[vagrant mountain]

mine is retired

[snow light]

doesnt regular droprate help affect card droprate or are those two seperate things?

[little parrot]

not at 500? not retired yet! get to 500!

[signal osprey]

It does help yeah

[vagrant mountain]

waiting for w6 for 500

[fast grail]

Another brother in waiting

[vagrant mountain]

more overall gains if I just camp beans instead

[signal osprey]

I'm waiting for W6 to do a lot of things tbh. Its gonna get pretty wild

[snow light]

im waiting till W7 to do some stuff... W6 is too close to do stuff for rn

[vagrant mountain]

cant wait to never actually do them

[dim wind]

such names

[signal osprey]

I actually will do them this time

I figure W6 is one of the best opportunities I'll have to finally get reported on camps leaderboard

Cant waste this chance

[snow light]

cause if W6 drops and i need to turn in W5 mats for anvil i dont know how i will feel...

[vagrant mountain]

im getting around to actually working on 200 gs :\

thought i was gonna wait til w6 but im closer than i thought i'd be

[signal osprey]

I should probably start saving up some particles for W6 now that I think about it

[vagrant mountain]

particles for w6?

[dim wind]

either for bubbles or for new atoms

[vagrant mountain]

does that mean you have lvl 30 fluoride?

[signal osprey]

I imagine that W6 bubbles will cost a lot of particles per click

And I plan to use a lot of gold watches

[fallen torrent]

hahahaha true

[signal osprey]

Plus hopefully we get a new atom or two

[snow light]

thought that was the plan maybe not immediately but within a month or two on release

[signal osprey]

I have level 20 fluoride

[vagrant mountain]

didnt you unlock the last superbit?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

I dont think leveling fluoride now is worth it though

W6 is going to buff cooking on its own and if we dont get new meal levels the skill will be maxable with just level 20

When I see new levels I'll level fluoride

[vagrant mountain]

i got lvl 20 fluoride and im nowhere close to maxing cooking

[signal osprey]

I didnt say it would be easy

Plus I also said W6 cooking buffs too

[vagrant mountain]

oh yeah true

[granite warren]

Thats interesting, just hit sub 12hrs per 20 books, lol

[vagrant mountain]

what's faster 30m small pots for 10m logfries or 10m average pots?

[signal osprey]

I skipped both of those. Took way too long to be worth it imo

[vagrant mountain]

i need one more after these stupid cards

[signal osprey]

Do a statue. Its an actually useful farm

[rough wasp]

I candied my logfries

[signal osprey]

I remember testing the rates on it and not liking what I saw

[vagrant mountain]

yeah they're pretty shit

[rough wasp]

Yeah it’s pretty buttcheeks

I also slapped 7 chars afk at poops

[signal osprey]

That sounds awful

[rough wasp]

Statues just woulda taken me longer so i opted that route

[signal osprey]

We farm statues anyway

[barren otter]

thats so bad..

[rough wasp]

IK I just wanted it done earlier

[vagrant mountain]

maybe i should do anvil tab 2 like all the cool kids

[rough wasp]

Do Anvil 3

[vagrant mountain]

im not cool enough

[signal osprey]

2 is honestly not that bad tbh

[vagrant mountain]

the only hard part about it is 2.5b iron bars

[signal osprey]

I gstacked dreadlo bars and if my napkin math is correct thats actually more bar claims than 2b iron bars lol

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[signal osprey]

Theyd be pretty close though

[vagrant mountain]

marble bars next

[signal osprey]

Already got 12 slots of marble going

[vagrant mountain]

of course you do

how silly of me to suggest something so obvious

[signal osprey]

Its coming along quite nicely

[vagrant mountain]

🔜

[signal osprey]

I'll get it before W6 no worries

[sweet pine]

damn if you afk at w2 colo you gonna lose 1 silver chest

[spice meadow]

Why w2 colo? W3 is better

[signal osprey]

By what metric?

[vagrant mountain]

chizoar keys

[signal osprey]

True that would make a pretty fun gstack

[vagrant mountain]

sir u need to relax

[signal osprey]

Well its not like I'm ever going to run the boss keys

Theyre more valuable as a gstack

[sweet pine]

so is 3 tickets worth it? the colo 3 one

[barren otter]

gstack golden cheese when

[signal osprey]

For max candy output no W3 isnt worth it

Its more candy per run than W2 but less per ticket

[signal osprey]

Thats another fun idea too

[barren otter]

you get the added bonus of gstack mirrors

[signal osprey]

Nah I do my W3 at neyeptunes now

[barren otter]

oh gstack black lense

[signal osprey]

Primordial shrine

[sweet pine]

my 230+ tickets progress

[hearty shore]

Is the star dice obol or kattlekruk obol better?

[sweet pine]

can't wait to finish this, 330 left

[vagrant mountain]

why are golden peanuts there?

[snow light]

if i remember right kruk obol is hands down better ignore my ignorance

[vagrant mountain]

star dice is for active and kruk is for afk lol

[signal osprey]

Kruk and dice obols do different things

[sweet pine]

where?

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-gif-18632592

[rough wasp]

@teal lynx @fierce oracle 2 72hs

[snow light]

looks like 3 to me but ye

[fierce oracle]

this game fucking hates me fs

[rough wasp]

i always put +1 candy

[snow light]

understandable so that you always pick it up

[signal osprey]

What DR is that at?

[rough wasp]

21.79x

[signal osprey]

Hmm I guess DR has a bigger impact on gems than I thought it did. Thats pretty cool

[snow light]

this team should be able to do it right the 4 man equinox dream? i dont have peapod unlocked just yet

[vagrant mountain]

probably not but ive been wrong before

[signal osprey]

If you swap looter and rattler thats the team I used

[teal lynx]

Is that 47 Colos? - 94 Tickets. Something that is not dividable by 4?
Are you insane or something?

[rough wasp]

i got tired of doing colos ok

[teal lynx]

That is 2 more tickets

[rough wasp]

[teal lynx]

ahhhhhhh. The Orb should already be there

[barren otter]

@vagrant mountain have you only been candying bleach?

[rough wasp]

2 72h made me happy enough

[vagrant mountain]

yeh but not really been doing any of that lately

[barren otter]

think i retire candying any bubbles after agi gets to 10k

the novelty of it is disappearing

[weak vector]

I have a guess for the third w6 skill

[signal osprey]

I'm waiting for W6 to candy bubble 1's

[weak vector]

It’s RPGing

[signal osprey]

Thats when the party begins

[vagrant mountain]

yeah and it just becomes a pain in the ass when you can only do like 30 clicks everytime you fill up your liquid

[barren otter]

oh yea when we get 1B+ carry cap

[fierce oracle]

TD is fun

[barren otter]

im going right back

[teal lynx]

Rock - Paper - Gun

[signal osprey]

I'm also hoping shadow ban cap goes up in W6

Otherwise I get banned next world I guess

[barren otter]

wtf kind of lvl goals did you hav ein mind...

[signal osprey]

I dont really have a specfic goal but 100k of a stat isnt that crazy

[vagrant mountain]

yeh thats like 20k bubble 1

[signal osprey]

And I dont like that I bottleneck my own gameplay because lava doesnt understand the limits of the game he created

So fuck it' I'll play nice until W6. If the cap isnt changed then I guess its shadow time

[barren otter]

yea getting to 100k in a stat with W6 carry cap isnt too crazy

but doing that now is just mind numbingly boring

[vagrant mountain]

don't need to understand the game if you can just flame/ban the playerbase that dont align with your beliefs

[sweet pine]

wondering how much defs needed for w6 crystal

[amber dagger]

Is this achievement a lie

[sweet pine]

my vman gonna get 1 shot for sure

[noble sable]

more than 1 prob

[sharp egret]

idleontoolbox suddenly says I haven't selected a traif for drop drip traits, what are drop drip traits? ah dungeon

[worldly hollow]

At what point should I start pushing for the 300m red bits to unlock t7 plants?

lv 250 shovel
lv 210 shell - rank 23 820 left to 24

[zinc torrent]

hi so my question is

why does shattered glass taste like blood

[worldly hollow]

Also

[snow light]

it doesnt taste like blood it tastes like how rust/iron smells silly silly

[teal lynx]

Iirc it needed ~25 for me. But the hoop actually exists

[snow light]

i mean if you can get to 300m with only like a few days maybe 3-5 days of not spending bits it might be worth it but i also have seen that T7 plants are not worth it at the same time so i cant tell you

[teal lynx]

You most likely won't get T7 plants anyways. They are very very very rare - So it's not a priority
For your second question. Full speed on the Squirrel after 5x bits (you already got that) - Atleast that's what people told me when I asked

[worldly hollow]

it might not be worth it, but hey i try to be a completionist. it will eventually happen lol

[teal lynx]

I would just buy it when you got everything else that's good. Base Bit Value, Extra snail mail, shell upgrade, speed, etc

[worldly hollow]

just gained ~13m since the orignal question and collecting

shouldnt take too too long

[snow light]

so damn close...

[worldly hollow]

do you have the pea pet? that was the only way i was able to complete it

nvm lol

[snow light]

sadly no i am still working on unlocking everything

[worldly hollow]

didnt see you responded to yourself

[teal lynx]

Another snail reset to 15

[worldly hollow]

f

[rough wasp]

just like me

[worldly hollow]

mine has been sitting at 16 for a little bit now lol

[teal lynx]

So this "Chance to Succeed before reset: 0.87". Is that on average a 87% chance to rank up before a reset?

[vagrant mountain]

you can probably do it if you roll everything to 20k+

and put rattler in the back

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[teal lynx]

Damn so I hit the 13% 4 times in a row now

[vagrant mountain]

wow you are lucky

[teal lynx]

Another chance in around 2 1 weeks

[vagrant mountain]

ive basically given up on this god forsaken rock slug

[sweet pine]

mine 1 fail and im back to lvl 5

soon, the time will come

[vagrant mountain]

i got to 19 once and never made it back to 17

[weak vector]

Does anyone know the math behind that?

Sorry i know math is a trigger word

[noble sable]

I'm level 5 I don't even know how

Snail 5

[teal lynx]

I yolo'ed all the way from 10-19 and I immediatelly reset afterwards. I was stupid for trying the all gamble route

[vagrant mountain]

all gamble is the only way

[sweet pine]

can't even level up snail atom because i need those atoms for alchemy

[vagrant mountain]

encouragement is a trap

[teal lynx]

3 Encourage on 17

It hasn't worked a single time

[noble sable]

Printer go brr:

[amber dagger]

I was looking for it and haven't seen it 😭

[teal lynx]

Holy

[vagrant mountain]

[sweet pine]

lol

[teal lynx]

4 times bit increase that you will lose in the next week

[worn sonnet]

New skill has a pillar that changes colour

Oh no no no no

[vagrant mountain]

lets hope he wasnt lying

[sick sentinel]

Wasn't that just for 2nd skill

[sweet pine]

what feedback, who?

[teal lynx]

Maybe those are different "Artifacts" of some sort. So maybe it's not as bad as sailing

Like buy artifacts with those Shards -> Get XY Stat for XY Pillar

[vagrant mountain]

#💖future-content-blog message

[dim wind]

say, is this card worth more with 300%+ crit chance than 20% total damage?

[sick sentinel]

You lose on sheet dmg but may gain on hit dmg

[tacit tulip]

with mega crits (+400%) and onyx crit statue it's probably not worth it

[dim wind]

So its bad for afk gain and MK, but good for active if you'd lack damage, like only for rift challenges, NM kruk and dps dummy?

[vagrant mountain]

there are probably better cards for active d mg

[sick sentinel]

Mainly for those tasks

[sweet pine]

i meant the line "none of the skill hinger on RNG" and "based on player feedback"

lmao

[dim wind]

then I'll stick with my dr. poop card, thanks

[worn sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/kanda-yakuza-yakuza3-phone-gif-24947802

[rough wasp]

@teal lynx whats ur crescent shrine at?

[teal lynx]

21, 6 and a half days from 22

[rough wasp]

im so far

[teal lynx]

Exactly 2m for me. (minus 8k)

[vagrant mountain]

behold 😎

[rough wasp]

oh copper bars are gonna be fast

[teal lynx]

Have you not done the copper bar vial?

[rough wasp]

[teal lynx]

It's so easy compared to those damn Starfire bars

[vagrant mountain]

imagine not being part of the 55 club

[rough wasp]

12 days for bobjoepickle

[rough wasp]

56 wen

[signal osprey]

Imagine not being in the 56 club

[vagrant mountain]

56 club is alvin

[paper sail]

56 club starts happening pretty soon, couple months at the latest even if w6 has no new vials

[rough wasp]

no alvin is 63 club

the 🐐

[fierce oracle]

my stamp is bad

but shrine is OP

[vagrant mountain]

23 crescent?

[fierce oracle]

ye

[keen moon]

is there an updated version of this?

[vagrant mountain]

lmao yumyum grotto for nothing island?

[fierce oracle]

ye

[vagrant mountain]

how close are you to 60k

[fierce oracle]

9k hrs still

[dim wind]

@paper sail all your cards seem to be exactly 1 short

[fierce oracle]

if I stop being a lazy fuck should be done in less than a week

[vagrant mountain]

nice

then you can grind for master of nothing

[fierce oracle]

#1141880730411094106 message

[fierce oracle]

I hope it happens soon

otherwise I will end up locking myself out of it

[vagrant mountain]

how

is there a cap of nothing hours?

[fierce oracle]

nope

but I'll stop at 69420

no matter what

[dim wind]

classic

[vagrant mountain]

no you have to go higher for the leaderboards

[paper sail]

Somewhat international. The list of required cards on the Wiki that I copied from has rounding variance. I give a 1 card leniance

[fierce oracle]

the only guy I've seen higher than me isnt on camp's LB so idc

and he's at 60k something

[noble sable]

Imagine those 60k hours invested in the wisdom bubble...

But nooo

[dim wind]

ah, alright. as long as you're aware! Thanks for skipping on dungeons 😂

[fierce oracle]

imagine having a pc

sucker

[snow light]

why'd you say that?

[noble sable]

I'm imagining

[vagrant mountain]

rekt

[snow light]

now he is gonna add it to spite people who dont do dungeons

[dim wind]

because I follow scoli bot and I dont like grinding dungeons to finish my cards

so im happy bot isnt telling me to

[bold quiver]

for excitement... It hinges on rng for despair

[snow light]

yeah i dont wanna grind dungeon for cards as well but having those cards missing/not maxed makes the OCD in me angry

[dim wind]

its easy not to look at cards, it's hard not to read scoli bot being disappointed

[paper sail]

Had to skip dungeons, yeah. They were the biggest victims of the rounding. Without a pity, I was underestimating tons of levels. With a pity, it was overestimating tons. Decided it was too inaccurate

[dim wind]

and I presume you skipped events because they can't be grinded, right?

[snow light]

likewise took me like 30 mins total to do this

[dim wind]

not sure what was there, I was thankfully maxed as it was introduced

[snow light]

it yelled at me for not having monster mat points

[wicked forum]

Hey all, what's the recommended kill per hour to start going for eclips skulls? Is 1mill enough?

[fierce oracle]

I had to do that to stop being hardstuck mid w4

[paper sail]

4-5m minimum imo

[snow light]

i dont wanna do it again for W5 mobs when W6 drops... if i could do it from codex it would be nice

[rough wasp]

[wicked forum]

Ok ty.

[fierce oracle]

stfu ducky you didnt stop at 42069 wis

ur not a real one

[rough wasp]

Why stop at 42069 wis when I can go for 69420

It was unintentional tho lol I just noticed it and was like what luck

[snow light]

i need to level prayers but im currently farming souls for other things that require souls because i am behind by miles on my soul game even though i have up to the starfire skull

[fierce oracle]

oh yea I still need like 3 levels on my -eff +exp for skilling prayer

I forgor about that one

[snow light]

i wanna do a couple things with forest souls mostly the vial then i gotta get back up to that billion to do other things with it

[dim wind]

ahh thanks

[dim wind]

silly question perhaps but what are you supposed to do when you're at like 1m/hr? gmush? im already hourly clicking the bottom 3 alch bubbles and I pushed W1 eclipse skulls on 1.5m/hr on most accounts because it was the last item on scoli bot to get into early W6 waiting room, not sure what to do with these characters now

[snow light]

clammies were the best place for W4 statue farming right?

[dim wind]

yes

[snow light]

if this keeps up i might be able to get onyx statues for W4 before i get to 1m orb kills

[dim wind]

I pushed W1 eclipse skulls on 1.5m/hr on most accounts because it was the last item on scoli bot to get into early W6 waiting room, not sure what to do with these characters now

[snow light]

get 1m plunderous kills...

[noble sable]

Make them pray

[dim wind]

divinity levels already decent

[noble sable]

Not enough.

[dim wind]

doesn't answer where to afk with the accounts that aren't eclipse-ready

[timid rain]

did you finish rift?

[noble sable]

What about +20 bear?

[vagrant mountain]

you got all your hampters?

[noble sable]

Don't you want +20 levels??

With this mindset you will never move forward

[dim wind]

I dont follow, I think?

[snow light]

pearl vial? skill mastery all done? equinox? ruby cards for skills?

[vagrant mountain]

hampters for 10 matty pouches and weapons i think

[noble sable]

alr 250 gstacks?

[dim wind]

im not saying I finished, im asking how I can best get the lower-kph accounts ready to get to 4-5m kph to use for eclipsing. camping hampters for matty pouches won't help me there

[vagrant mountain]

its just time/alchemy

a little bit of cooking/sailing

[sweet pine]

QS

[snow light]

wormhole kills/god ranks kinda help too

[vagrant mountain]

not really

[snow light]

really i thought it was a bigger bonus?

[rough wasp]

Wormhole kills

[vagrant mountain]

just grind DK and find stuff to farm in w5

[rough wasp]

Nah the bonus is

[snow light]

even with the atom to push it farther?

[rough wasp]

? Atom doesn’t do anything to it

Even if it did it’s still pretty shit

[dim wind]

https://arlitub.idleonefficiency.com/

[snow light]

mb i read helium wrong i thought it was all pow 10 not just recources

[rough wasp]

I wish

SB skill

[sweet pine]

are you guys using 2 mob spawn keychains or 1 mob spawn 1 afk gains?

nvm imma test it myself , ignore my dumb question

[vagrant mountain]

ok

[cerulean hemlock]

How was the mute? Fun?

[shadow sundial]

Anyone has Tipps and tricks for more dmg to kill Kattlekruck ? Don’t want to miss anything w6

[fierce oracle]

that mute was funny AF

[dim wind]

maybe this card?

[shadow sundial]

Is it good for dmg ?

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

[snow light]

seeing as how your bubbles are a little higher than mine all around i would suggest the multiplier bubbles to start focusing on to get to 80%
for reference the 2nd bubble in cauldrons hit 80% at lvl 400 and the 21st bubble is capped at 120 so that would be something to work towards

[shadow sundial]

And what else, I have a main bb

[dim wind]

active damage, maybe

[cerulean hemlock]

For a second I thought you were female ;P

wait, if you are female, kill me

don't take that seriously

[noble sable]

What hzuakznaidmndwosmlalz eodn

[vagrant mountain]

i am female can i kill you

https://tenor.com/view/bye-wave-window-goodbye-hi-gif-17372773

[dim wind]

interesting, that's not something I had looked at before. Thanks

[fierce oracle]

he's a femboy

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣 That was such a good movie
RIP Robin Williams

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah

And what am i?

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/im-ladyboy-gif-25689080

[fierce oracle]

yes

[snow light]

i also dont know what rarity your chaotic chizoar card is but it would help you overall to get it to ruby if you havent already

[dim wind]

I wonder if it holds up through time. I loved seeing it long ago, but now... no idea

[noble sable]

femboy doenst exist here in Rio de Janeiro

Thats false

Im male

[vagrant mountain]

femboys are an american thing

[dim wind]

quite a ways to go for Ruby

[noble sable]

Sigma male

[vagrant mountain]

no thats giga chad cat

[fierce oracle]

you're the first

[noble sable]

my pronouns is gu/ns

[cerulean hemlock]

😎

[cerulean hemlock]

It's deep.

[paper sail]

The amount of cards listed to Ruby C.Chizoar is very wrong. Go farm it immediately

[vagrant mountain]

i prefer to be called skibidi/toilet

[cerulean hemlock]

You're Texan? 😄

[noble sable]

No

Im Carioca

[cerulean hemlock]

🫡

[dim wind]

Wait, you're saying it will tick over in less than 560?

[dim wind]

Why is it telling you you've collected X cards, and not x-till Ruby?

[noble sable]

Bye I am reading manhwa

[snow light]

Vman is best boss card DR i believe due to his card DR skill i would suggest getting onyx statues if you havent already cause i can't tell if you have onyx or not on your account through efficiency

[dim wind]

yeh, 100% onyx

[paper sail]

It only needs 16 more cards from Plat to Ruby

[dim wind]

wth, thanks

[snow light]

i dont have ruby rift i had extra gems when i came back from being away for like a year and a half and i looked at what was important cards to have rubied and went for crystal spawn DR and skill efficiency at the time

[dim wind]

ahhh I see, thanks

[sweet pine]

now i just know you can keychain swap for extra kph

[cerulean hemlock]

Man hwa= slow drawings in Chinese

[snow light]

btw your account is miles ahead of mine just so you know so take my advice with a HUGE pile of salt cause i could be leading you the wrong way

[sweet pine]

damn this thing is messy

[dim wind]

just feels bad when 4-5m kph is suggested for eclipsing and you're looking at 1.5m... any advice is welcome, no matter who it comes from, as long as it's genuine so thanks

[cerulean hemlock]

What is? #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 ?

[cerulean hemlock]

You want more kph for what?

Rift?

I may be able to help

[sweet pine]

what?

[cerulean hemlock]

Is #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 Messy 😛

Or just unorganized

[dim wind]

W2-4 eclipse skull grind

[cerulean hemlock]

Ohhh!

[sweet pine]

idk if i swap keychain but not gonna open my afk tab, im gonna get more kph

[cerulean hemlock]

Have you bought t3 keychains with %respawn?

[cerulean hemlock]

Have you been doubling the right cards?

[dim wind]

My "bad" chars are only at like 1~2m/hr, wondering how to boost them. Not having the green snake divinity unlocked doesn't help either (need bear for lab, no doot)

[cerulean hemlock]

Is obol page up to par?

[dim wind]

no, running multikill

[cerulean hemlock]

You want Nobisect (Mantis) for eclipse

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh 😛

[snow light]

what is your fighting AFK at do you have card doublers? there are a variety of things that can help individual toons but for the entire account it is hard to say realistically what would really help i cant see your equinox what is your matching scims level that might be a big player in dmg and to help you push into that for all your toons

[dim wind]

even over having lab active?

[paper sail]

Multikill chains are very bad

[cerulean hemlock]

If you want to get it done, GET it done!

[paper sail]

Like, garbage tier bad

[cerulean hemlock]

Indeed, they're (+)

[dim wind]

oof, okay thanks 😂 I was happy with em, I thought

[paper sail]

1% respawn is better than even the best perfect roll mk chain

[cerulean hemlock]

Ooh! %all stats might help slightly

Since, QS, and everything

[dim wind]

just wondering if active lab + 6 nobisects is better than 8 nobis without lab

[fierce oracle]

yo, anyone knows how much is kraken 20-25 in TD? at 95% discount

[cerulean hemlock]

You can test that out! 😄

[fierce oracle]

the post pancake has on guides masterlist only goes up to 20

[bold quiver]

expensive

[cerulean hemlock]

i thinkkkkkk around 1k?

or is it 10k?

[fierce oracle]

I mean during TD

[paper sail]

Could you mean like 200k? lol

[cerulean hemlock]

My margins are not great

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh! Seriously?!

[dim wind]

ill have to wait for week reset 😂 stupid divinities

[fierce oracle]

def more

[sweet pine]

full kraken is real

[paper sail]

Plenty you can do between now and then. You don't NEED to complete Eclipse right now

[dim wind]

Ill have to wait to test it, I meant

worst case chars can always afk gmush now that I finished eclipsing W1

[rough wasp]

i may have miscalculated my wis bubble clicks

[dim wind]

Thanks @paper sail that was indeed not 563 cards. Where did you get the numbers from, so I can have a look at other boss cards

[bold quiver]

oh nno, where are u at now?

[sweet pine]

i put my mob respawn chain on and then swap it with afk chain then i got extra 300k kph

but if i open the afk tab again the bonus is gone

[dim wind]

300 or 300k?

[sweet pine]

300k

but if i know i got extra 300k already and dont open the afk tab then use candy, i got the bonus

[dim wind]

This list, where did it come from so I dont have to bug you for every boss 😄

[sweet pine]

wth is going on?

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards#Bosses Just the wiki lol

[dim wind]

Ohh, thanks. I was looking at the boss pages itself which only showed to boost per tier

Chaotic Chizoar is the only outlier, reckon Lava meant to go for 688?

[snow light]

if you are down for it and you have the superbits for it then pushing your TD as high as you can wouldnt hurt too much either though i dont know where you can get to with your current setups

[paper sail]

It is the only card that actually has its own separate formula in the code, from what I've heard. So he took the time to make it different.

[rough wasp]

9848

[bold quiver]

niceee, did u get the other ones to 10k also already?

[rough wasp]

lol no

[dim wind]

it's been a few weeks since I got them all to 130 while having only towers in my construction, so I might be able to push a little further now, good idea

[paper sail]

But also not enough time to actually list the card requirement correctly at the Plat level 😛

[rough wasp]

Wtf

[dim wind]

Very interesting, thanks

[bold quiver]

what is your plan then

[rough wasp]

wym

[dim wind]

I dont see the connection to superbits though, how do they interact with TD?

[rough wasp]

its literally just candying my bubbles 1s

[bold quiver]

so just candying to infinite?

[fierce oracle]

I mean, starting at wis/bleach is the logical decision

[rough wasp]

thubie wants me to hit 69420 now

[fierce oracle]

yea do it

do it today

[bold quiver]

i found out that itt doesnt matter to be honest kkkkkkkk

[rough wasp]

i dont have the candies to do it lol

nor the time to hit it today

[fierce oracle]

time is a construct

[vagrant mountain]

just beware the 100k stat shadowban

[gusty glade]

They unlock the miniature soul apparatus which give buffs acording to your highest wave

[dim wind]

He mentioned if I have enough, but I pressume this is fine then

Not sure what's in the corner tbh

[gusty glade]

yeahhhhhh you're good

the corner is the most OP one of them all. I think it's like +10% to all atom collider buffs?

[dim wind]

o sick, more atom bubbles

[vagrant mountain]

its +10 max levels

which is even better

[dim wind]

so that's why people were talking about level 30 for cooking. When I looked I saw it capped at 20

[snow light]

totalizer increases dmg based off your TD lvls past wave 100 i believe per 10 total waves passed amongst all TDs

[gusty glade]

It's like 60 now I think

[dim wind]

yep, first bonus there

I see what you meant now, I thought there was some way to boost TD's with superbits for a sec

[gusty glade]

ohh lol.
I'm over here like "this guy is asking about superbits and the MSA when his TD waves are higher than mine... wtf..."

[chrome tiger]

do i need 16.0 or 16.1 to round up to 17 levels with arctis?

[dim wind]

Yeah I was just discombobulated

[chrome tiger]

I'm thinking 16.1

[gusty glade]

me too :/

[dim wind]

2:40am, will do some TD's tomorrow

dont wanna stay up till 7

[snow light]

yeah that is why you have ImTooPale/ducky/thubie sitting here for hours just trying to get another 10+ waves across all TDs because it is just small boost but it will help a lot

[fierce oracle]

16.01

[sweet pine]

no i think they have nothing else to do and they are bored at bleach 😆

[rough wasp]

I haven’t done td in ages

[fast grail]

hopefully this is enough for 6 characters to get the scarf

[vagrant mountain]

just do normal kruk

[dim wind]

Not with my drop rate 😂

Better start saving up for 2m Lugi brackets btw. Jan 17th - Silkrode Nanochip

[sweet pine]

~25k gems

[fast grail]

If i get the cape for all of them, then i just might

wonder how long it would take

[patent hatch]

I spent 30k keys and got 0 scarfs

Bunch of wings though lmao

[fast grail]

Im here at work for the next 10 hours so we will see

[dim wind]

im 12k keys deep with 0, just some wings

14DR

[patent hatch]

All I want is the Afk gains

Is that so much to ask

[fast grail]

If i actually run out of keys, guess ill DK at wurms, 99% of my keys have come from bubo

Nightmares wont take long though, got every character to be able to oneshot nkruk now

[patent hatch]

Got like four weeks till new world so might as well

[fathom lagoon]

W6 wen plz

[sweet pine]

early feb he said

[bold quiver]

tomorrow

[fathom lagoon]

I’m pretty excited, never been around for a new world release

[fathom lagoon]

I know I’m just being obtuse

[snow light]

makes sense they do endgame stuff so i just assumed

[sweet pine]

maybe extra 500 gems on stream like every year

[tulip kayak]

yum

[bold quiver]

@quasi galleon

[fathom lagoon]

@tall horizon

[tall horizon]

gottem, ty

[sick sentinel]

[shy flame]

is there a good way to farm accuracy statues or just hope they show up in weekly battle shop and buy 20k that way

[fast grail]

either active ES on wshroom, or candy nuttos

[shy flame]

okay I was afraid of that

but ty

[proud pumice]

the good thing about farming on wood mushrooms is that it gives a lot of woodular circles too so you won't have to farm them again ever

[shy flame]

okay that does make it feel a lot better lol

[proud pumice]

i have like 900 days worth of googley eyes

[hollow gazelle]

woodular circle vial when ?

[faint niche]

Finally got all the page 1 constelations infinite

[hollow gazelle]

same

[calm gust]

How many bags u got?

[proud pumice]

wdym? the ones for googley eyes?

[faint niche]

i wish bags could stack >.<

[calm gust]

Well bags are needed

[proud pumice]

yes

that's why these are 900 days of googley eyes

[calm gust]

Use tickets to fight bigge hours

[proud pumice]

you can buy 3 bags a day

[calm gust]

3 bags a day but they don't stack so bye bye storage

[proud pumice]

yes but i just craft the eyes everyday

and stack the eyes

[shy flame]

out of context this sounds like something a serial killer would say

"yeah I just get eyes everyday and stack them up in my closet"

[winter yew]

Is there a best class/build by early W5 for just going back and farming cards?

[nimble sun]

Diminta have chart ?

[paper sail]

Card farming is best done on ES, second best is DK

[nimble sun]

Divinity

[paper sail]

ES is gonna get you more base materials and cards. DK is going to give you more rewards from Crystal monsters especially, like statues and leaves

[winter yew]

oh hey you're the autoreview guy? Thanks for making the tool man. just started using it recently

[shy flame]

use the form you've most recently unlocked (except mantra) until you have tranqi idk

[fallen torrent]

2.7B % cash multi, oh that feels good

[lapis mesa]

gonna be on a hiatus, whatcha think best use of my time. Gmush?

[fallen torrent]

all onyx statues are done?

are you farming em currently?

cause those W3 are a pain but you can afk there to get em with candies, so can afk them there, but gmush is a good one, depend on where you arei n the game, how much K/hr you get

you can powerlevel and have em all at tremur, make sure to remove max 10hr prayer

leave vman on a lower skill to powerlvl him, or get card on like maple tree/dandelion

[lapis mesa]

i have all onyx, i avg a few mil per hour, the tremur worms idea isnt terrible

[fallen torrent]

how long the hiatus

AND WHY

why would you leave us 😦

[lapis mesa]

idk how long itll be, feeling a little burnt out

[fallen torrent]

W6 will bring some freshness on the game soon enough 😄

placing some goal and trying to achieve them is what make legend so great!

[fierce oracle]

honestly, you could leave active bubo on wurms or something getting CC progress for decanting

as liquidvestment gets 99% of the overflow you can just check every week or not check at all

and a lot of progress would be there when you got back

[tulip kayak]

no way

[iron mesa]

Lava made separate formula for Chaotic Chizoar, which he didnt test for 6 Lv. and made funny cuz of it

[warm pike]

What setup can I use to beat wave 20 in frosty firefight with only up go the party starter unlocked?

[shy flame]

is that the w3 one?

[warm pike]

Yeah'-'

If you tell me to go there I'm never gonna get the question answered🥶

[shy flame]

I used boulder rollers, slow towers, lightning, and of course party but spaced them out far between so the ones that stun on death would only effect one or two towers at a time

[warm pike]

Oh the stun ones stun in an aoe?

[shy flame]

yeah

[warm pike]

I didn't know that that's why all my rollers would get stunned at the same time

[shy flame]

I think the acorn one also has this mechanic but tbh I can't remember

Yeah, if you don't have your pro gamer w5 towers you can still get an okay wave clear just by being smart about spacing

[bold quiver]

thats right, dont force yourself to play something u are not having fun

[normal minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycNdheSQ06M&t=720s&ab_channel=Kyromyr

[shy flame]

Krakens are unlocked after party starter

[normal minnow]

oh yea

i forgot he used krakens

oops

uhh

guide for future

!

[shy flame]

lol, I feel like once a day someone asks for help with it and doesn't have all towers unlocked so I'm used to just reminding people "hey, you have a lot of space to work with, make it easier on yourself and don't get your towers clumped up"

[manic moat]

I'm working on using my BB to get 100m kills in w1 and then in w2 but I feel like I may not be ready for it. I don't think I fully understand multikill. could someone let me know if I'm ready for this or not? I'd rather not waste my time if I don't have to.

my next in line is rats

[bold quiver]

up to u. If u dont have anything else to do u might as well do that

i always prefer doing those kind of stuff with candy tho

[pale jay]

All that matters for you right now is that kills/hr number

[manic moat]

I don't have enough candy

[shy flame]

better than my BB and he's going for eclipse on sandy pots

[manic moat]

I can't seem to find a way to increase it that much

[bold quiver]

i wouldnt try to 100M if i didnt have at least 5M on gmush

[bold quiver]

eldrich trilobite

[pale jay]

Their example was rats, they got 5m on gnush

[shy flame]

there's two prayers I use, uhhh, obviously increasing damage, multikill per tier (if its not per tier it's kind of doodoo), afk gains rate

[bold quiver]

i meant 5M kph

[manic moat]

ah, only at 2m

[pale jay]

Mob respawn and speed factor in hard on some maps with few or awkwardly positioned monsters

[manic moat]

I'll just keep building then...doesn't sound too promising lol

[bold quiver]

its your own choice. But a rule of thumb if u want to be efficient in idleon is: If it feel like its taking too long it means u are not ready

[shy flame]

I am not ready to unlock bobjoe vial level 2

[manic moat]

yeah, and I did make the mistake of having two BBs too, one is cooking while this one is getting 100m on everything

[bold quiver]

most people just keep smashing their head on hard content tho, personal preference

[bold quiver]

oh dot worry, 2 BB is not a mistake until u reach endgame and dont need too many laddles anymore

2 BB is in fact insanely strong to rush content

[shy flame]

hello my brother/sister/sibling in double BB

[manic moat]

lol

[bold quiver]

dead class once u reach endgame tho, unfortunate

[manic moat]

they are ready to take on mobs in w6 that's for sure

[pale jay]

You could try rebalancing your talents for a potential improvement if you haven't tried that yet

[manic moat]

I suppose I could head to the library with this guy

[pale jay]

Couldnt say how specifically, though

[shy flame]

I feel like if the solution is "rebalancing talents" there's several other things you need to improve on that will give you long term gains

Then again I'm currently the biggest noob in chat, so I'm probably wrong

[pearl cedar]

Ehh BB should get a new class next so 2 BBs will likely be very good

[shy flame]

idk I remember struggling on a couple flag rifts, I have my flag talent maxed, and the easy fix is "lol don't max it just put one point in", but like, if I'm struggling I'm going to need gear/damage/whatever improvements eventually and although they're not as fast they're also a solution to my current issue

[bold quiver]

guessing BB just because of class order?

[bold quiver]

as long as u have decimator booked and the BB kph booked, there wont rly be anything meaninful to get from talents

[pearl cedar]

Sub class order has always been like that, w2 got barb, w3 squire, w4 BB, w5 DK

[pale jay]

Seen it a few times where people just forgot they were 50-50ing a skilling build

So mentioning just in case

[shy flame]

ah, that's fair, I use talent tab 1 for fight and 2 for skill so I don't really run into problems

if anything the dream is to powerlevel enough that your first tab is your fight and your skill because you're carrying so many talent points

[pale jay]

Alchemy, baby.

[bold quiver]

just need to get talent alchemy bubble to around 1k

[pale jay]

Just need that to exist for special talents, too.

[paper sail]

Why would you ever take the talent bubble to 1k 🤣

Mine aren't 400 and I have more than I could ever spend.. Just level Bubble 2 like you're supposed to. It multiplies talent point bubble

[spice meadow]

Red shrek

Funny

Idk how ive seen shrek

[shy flame]

it's old enough of a movie that possibly on dvd

[pale jay]

It's a char from some obscure game that I found in the depths of profile pic default options on Steam at some point

[spice meadow]

It has Lore?

Based

[quiet viper]

what would be the best map to get 100,000 seconds cranium cooking equinox thing?

[shy flame]

worms

[quiet viper]

any alternative?

and does multikill affect cranium cooking btw?

[shy flame]

I know when I asked I just got told worms but didn't have worms unlocked on my bubo yet. best I was doing was like 45k on other maps I tried. Once I got worms I got over 100k first try

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1165326429102280735 This thread has some good info if you haven't seen it

[pale jay]

Worms have lots of mobs condensed, good killcount for floor rainbows

[paper sail]

Ehh, less helpful than I remembered. I thought it had a larger list than just the 1 map

[shy flame]

rip oj bay was where I was getting 45k

[fast grail]

holy shit, was making a scarf for my BM for the divine quest, somehow hit this

[shy flame]

but I also don't think I had access to 200+ talents left

[fast grail]

+1 slot, +11 wis

[quiet viper]

@paper sail thank you!

[hallow kite]

whats consedeard a town skill?

[shy flame]

anvil, alchemy, construction, etc

skills that are done in town

[normal minnow]

finally yellow number

[paper sail]

If you're asking about the Star Sign Bob Build Guy, it only applies to Smithing and Alchemy

[shy flame]

what is autoreview and should I be using it

[hallow kite]

breeding lab sailing worship?

[shy flame]

I think so, but I'd listen to the guy who made a tool I don't know how to use

[paper sail]

As the name suggests, it is a little site that automatically reviews your profile (public IE or you can copy in JSON from IE/IT) and tries to make some recommendations.

If you're thinking "Uhh, what do I do now?" = Up top with Pinchy is where I think your account is most behind.

If you already know what you want to do, but not sure how or what to focus on, scroll down below to the detailed sections. You can see recommendations for everything individually that I have completed. Still a WIP so not everything is evaluated yet

[shy flame]

Ah okay, I don't think it's something I need but there's kind of a lot to the game and people get overwhelmed easily so it sounds like a pretty fantastic tool, thanks for making it

even in w5 chat it's not that unusual to see someone who doesn't know how to progress, or who is torn between like 8 different things they're wanting to progress on

[clear quartz]

i love scolibot, allthough i am barely even playing lately 😦

[paper sail]

For sure. Sometimes you just want to turn your brain off and be told what to do

[clear quartz]

deposit my inventory on dk, maybe go run around and log on my other chars, sometimes buy out my shops, spend atoms

[shy flame]

lol if I let people tell me what to do I'd play way differently (and probably much more efficiently)

[clear quartz]

im surprised only 3 boxes have been ignored for a bit lol

[faint niche]

I just thought of something, if you get a high DK orb number before you kill a mini-boss, will it multiply the drops from them too?

[shy flame]

Yes

[faint niche]

Ty. I wish i knew that BEFORE i just killed all mine today XD

[shy flame]

this is also why colo is DK only, last wave always a mini boss

[clear quartz]

hence dk being good for colo farming,a nd for when you spawn your w3/w4 ones

[faint niche]

tyyy

[shy flame]

I usually don't spawn w4 mini until orb has maybe 30 seconds left just for stacks

I uh, don't try very hard in w3

[faint niche]

lol im in w4 rn on my ES and accidentally spawned them so was like dang i wonder if that works

[clear quartz]

unsure if theres orb countr breakpoints to aim for but same

i pop them both at like 400-430 ish

[shy flame]

there may be break points but the dumber way to think about it is "get biggest number I can then go"

can't get a bigger number than the biggest number you can get after all

[faint niche]

im farming clogs to start on making alts divine gear

[shy flame]

everytime I go to make divine gear either I get screwed because of nullo or because of clogs

[faint niche]

heh yaaah. figured my ES would get more clogs than my other classes rn

[shy flame]

need to unlock 30 more storage spaces and fill them with clogs

most likely, crystal mobs don't drop clogs

[faint niche]

idk if there is any more storage space for me to get >.<

[shy flame]

I'm missing like 5 gem chests but also like 5 yin/yang cog buys

[faint niche]

think i got like 1 cog but all the chests down from teh gems

[shy flame]

one of the equinox dreams is to get level 300 construction so I need them premium cogs

[faint niche]

heh just a few slots

[heady plover]

is it advisable to skip chiz armor and go straight for Troll?

[faint niche]

eh i still have some of my toons with the chiz helm atleast with the green body

but im still a nub in the game

[pearl cedar]

Amarok armor is good enough to get you through the game tbh

Making at least one set is good though for slab

[faint niche]

will not lie courage ruined that word for me at a young age XD

[warm kelp]

wait 18 days for 100% or try my luck with the less % chance?

[chilly siren]

18 days

[faint niche]

O.O thats amazing I have never seen the 100% one on any of mine so far

[shy flame]

gamble while its cheap

[chilly siren]

it would be either now or forever if you don't pick 18 days

[shy flame]

I did a 50% for 10m earlier today and I lost the gamble

[warm kelp]

Damn 😄

[knotty adder]

Is slush skull good? Should I use it instead of the craftable ones?

[shy flame]

its bad but a compenent of the current best skull

[chilly siren]

pick one for slab then throw away
when you actually need them you will get like 10 of it in like 30m

[shy flame]

they're not wrong

I'd keep because I'm crow brained but you'll be fine to grab one later

[heady plover]

what do i go for :/

[shy flame]

how far through the chizoar achievements are you?

[heady plover]

Currently on 3

[shy flame]

I'm guessing based on unlocks you're from w3 chat but not finding any help there?

[heady plover]

umm, technically W5

currently just sitting in labs gaining Div

[chilly siren]

i suggest go for 4th build slot and max printer sample

[shy flame]

There's definitely a pro gamer graph for every merit page but I'd just go for sample rate because free mats

[normal minnow]

!merit3

[obtuse orbit]

Put 1 point in Telekinetic Storage.
General path: Max Respawn rate --> Talent books --> Sample size.

If you only have 2 food slots, put 2 points in the build/food merit after Respawn rate, otherwise max it after Sample size.
Put 1 point into the salt merit. If you want to push refinery ranks, put points in as applicable. Otherwise, after Sample size.
Max Telekinetic Storage after everything else.

[normal minnow]

but yea max ur sample size

[shy flame]

Build/food slot would be my other choice, if you aren't really using boost food much then sample size is probably better but having all build slots is, ya know... you can build more things which is good

[chilly siren]

maxing it give 5% which is a large amount of gain for printer early game

[heady plover]

Gonna go sample size I guess for now, shouldn'

[glacial venture]

build slots first

[faint niche]

Can't wait til I can get the next divine weapon unlocked to start crafting

[shy flame]

get that build slot tho hoppy boy was right

[glacial venture]

sample size can be done by prayer

[shy flame]

what do you mean by prayer

[chilly siren]

royal sampler prayer

give like 30% of your total sample size early on, huge

[untold lintel]

ooh im just so excited for w6 i could SCREAM

[shy flame]

please don't

[chilly siren]

PIE

[glacial venture]

dont CREAM here

[normal minnow]

-30% all exp gain, +15% sample size

[shy flame]

I used royal sampler early on, now I kinda just don't wanna because of all the like daily boosts to 3d printer that stack over time

[chilly siren]

yeah base sample size is 30% so the prayer alone give 50% of it

[untold lintel]

bro my NBLB is just yellow bubbles now lol

[shy flame]

this is abuse, level your yellows

[untold lintel]

theyre all so weird

[shy flame]

yellow bubbles are the ones that give like drop rate, prowess, sample size, chance of 2x level up when upping a vial right?

err bubble not vial

[clear quartz]

idk what i wanna work on in bubbles

scoli makes me think just endlessly pushing those, but i should work on bob ig

errrr those purple/orange usual suspects, even

[shy flame]

tbh you should play like trash and do whatever you want

[clear quartz]

tru

til w6 i think im mainly just waiting anyway so i dont have any real notable goals to strive for. maybe finish off another vial or two before then and maybe ill actually get carpenter to atom range

[shy flame]

finishing a vial off makes me feel powerful

[clear quartz]

dont really have many easy ones left, i guess i could go finish off the w5 mob drop ones but otherwise its just mainly pushing the critter ones

and sloly waiting for the anvil ones

[shy flame]

oh wow my account is trash

get them orange slices, they're refreshing

[untold lintel]

does the chip that doubles all active star signs include the ones active from breeding pets?

[faint niche]

iirc its just the 1-3 you have equipped

[untold lintel]

sad

[shy flame]

if you align with an infinite star sign and have the star sign doubler then yes

[untold lintel]

that aint what i asked bucko

[glacial venture]

luckily i finished honkers vial yesterday^^

[untold lintel]

i mean do the infinite star signs that im not equipped to but are still active doubled

[shy flame]

no

[untold lintel]

sad

[faint niche]

Sweet just got enough crocks to make the next boots, now time to get gold string

[untold lintel]

but thank u

[glacial venture]

active doesnt mean the infinite per se

[shy flame]

crocs are more of a sandal than a boot tbh

[glacial venture]

you need to activate them

[shy flame]

I treated "not equipped" as equivalent to "not aligned to", which is why I said no, but as always, I may be missing stuff

[glacial venture]

only those that are "equipped" get doubled

[shy flame]

yeah, that was my understanding, just ones aligned to

[glacial venture]

but hope after we get w6 lava fleshes out old stuff

[shy flame]

cries in BB

[glacial venture]

like more nodes, new star signs and other crap

and class reworks

like reducing some skill cds

uwu could be a good skill if cd was shorter

uwu was the bm respawn skill, right?

[shy flame]

Removing logs would be nice

When I started it seemed like being able to get all the powers of 10 would be great but now that I can actually work on them they basically are a waste of time

[paper sail]

pow10 keeps us in check a bit, to prevent too crazy of unchecked scaling

[untold lintel]

do nobisect kills count towards the gmush money

the lab node that gives more coins for gmush kills

thanks

[frozen prairie]

3 down

[rapid shale]

i just got eldritch for the artifact that gives loot pile max capacity but it just stayed at 21 rather than increasing by another, is there a cap or something?

[zinc bison]

Leave and come back. Probably a screen relief should do it.

[rapid shale]

left and came back and cloudsaveed

[lilac bolt]

use balloons to get maestro for highest lvl worship?

[fathom lagoon]

So what’s the consensus on magma armor vs kruk?

[shy flame]

magma for sample kruk for killing

[fathom lagoon]

Oh damn so make a separate set for each char then? If I have a choice between 1 set for now, should I go straight for kruk? Or keep magma til I have a second set

[shy flame]

I'm mostly just repeating what I've heard, but technically you'd only need one set of magma for sampling that you pass along between chars

I only have two sets of card doubler chips, I definitely move them around when sampling

it's a clunky process but cheap

I was curious so I asked w3/4 chat for help on wave 20 of w3 totem and the advice was uh... kinda bad

it was also much much slower than w5 chat advice so if we get overflow sometimes hopefully just be chill and help them

[rapid shale]

i mean they gave you the only advice they could. the few options you have are, try and make frozone, work, use hunters stall ability so your boulders dont get stunned, work towards unlocking kraken. TD gets harder and requires more tower upgrades as you start summoning on new totems

work on construction and leveling the for cost reduction and damage

[shy flame]

We had the same question earlier in here and the advice I was given was try hunter and cluster three boulders together with a frozone up front

It was noticeably worse in basically every way

[shy flame]

Kraken tower

[rapid shale]

thats the bare minimum from 40, unfortunately it will be hard without kraken

[shy flame]

The person who asked here earlier had party at best

[rapid shale]

do you have party?

[shy flame]

Also probably the biggest issue with w3 is the aoe stun when certain units die

I have voidinator

[rapid shale]

you have voiid but not kraken?

[shy flame]

Clustering together a comp is terrible for people who don't have the right towers unlocked to handle it

[shy flame]

I am not the person who asked here earlier

[rapid shale]

what towers do you have im lost

[shy flame]

all of them

[rapid shale]

oh ii c

[shy flame]

Basically there's enough w3/4 people who come here for advice because they feel like they get nothing in w3/4 chat, so I kind of just audited w3/4 chat

[fallen torrent]

@untold saffron whats your alch count now? mine is 6166

[shy flame]

the advice arrives very slowly and it's bad, so when people feel like they have to come to here to get answers, we shouldn't dismiss them and be like "go back to earlier world chat".

That was kind of my point; people working through w3/4 regularly come here for advice for a reason, and there's a fair amount of people who'd dismiss them instead of helping, and that kinda sucks and maybe don't do that

[untold saffron]

You're winning I've been doing some W2 Colo for awhile

Gotta gamba on more chips

[fallen torrent]

thats a sad way to spend gems tho

[untold saffron]

Not much else left

[open mountain]

w2 colo is pain 💀

[untold saffron]

I'm sure there will be some $50 pack full of gems when W6 drops to buy out that store

[shy flame]

w2 colo gives me kebabs

[fallen torrent]

do oyu have all the gem cog?&

[untold saffron]

Yee

[open mountain]

yep

[shy flame]

tasty

[undone cloud]

Anyone have a tip for me to farming equipment w5 that drop from mobs?

[shy flame]

do you mean the recipes?

[open mountain]

farm it harder

[undone cloud]

Yep

[untold saffron]

High DR

[undone cloud]

Now my dr is 5.71

[untold saffron]

That'll be a struggle

[ocean igloo]

[untold saffron]

Have you got full DR obols

[shy flame]

outside of the suggma recipe I think every recipe you can get is from a mob you'll eventually farm so much that the recipe is practically guaranteed to drop

[ocean igloo]

for a nice rate a min of 10.x is good.

[undone cloud]

Is it have guaranteed?

[shy flame]

it's not guaranteed, it's just statistically more or less going to happen

like uh I think moles have a 1 in 2m drop but an npc gives a quest to kill 6m of them and you also need to kill 6m to unlock the next map

[open mountain]

all drops are 50% dropchance though

[shy flame]

so across 10 characters you're just eventually going to get the recipe because your 1 in 2m drop chance had 60 million times to proc

[quartz elk]

So true.

[ocean igloo]

The most "hard" recipe is Gloves from Suggmas

[shy flame]

suggma is the only hard one but it's also just an upgrade for vman

so if you just have one vman you can upgrade your other 9 characters way before you get that suggma drop

[ocean igloo]

Try complete your obols page if u don't have

Pop from Gigafrog

[undone cloud]

What is the rainbow circle?

[open mountain]

[shy flame]

gigafrog pop evil

[undone cloud]

Where drop?

[ocean igloo]

and DR from Crystals in W2

[open mountain]

from gemshop

[ocean igloo]

Also

do reroll on Obols

only on you will equip

[shy flame]

I didn't know to reroll obols until like last week

[open mountain]

max DR before you reach 5k family level is +3.06x droprate

[undone cloud]

Reroll which one can turn to rainbow?

[shy flame]

tbh I don't think fleshing out your DR obols will help you much with suggma recipe. It's a 1 in 50m chance

[open mountain]

gemshop

gemshop

listen

gemshop

[ocean igloo]

Nope, the rainbow one u only can get from Gem Shop

[shy flame]

But I'm pretty sure suggma ashes are used for a lot of different things so not exactly the worst thing to farm

[undone cloud]

Which one? Mavellous obol?

[ocean igloo]

Reroll change atributes from Obol

[open mountain]

This is a gemshop obol

[shy flame]

the gem shop obol gives you +1% more drop chance than pop pop

[ocean igloo]

The misc value can chage +1% or -1% using reroll

13,3% is the sucess chance

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Obols

[shy flame]

I feel like the gemshop multikill obol is probably the best but it's also a bit difficult to get 12 of the same gemshop obol without bleeding money

[craggy juniper]

I did the no kraken on citric map with no kraken towers and still didnt get the achievement. any idea why?

[shy flame]

Rip none of the other multikill obols are per tier

[open mountain]

the normal mk obols are a joke

[open mountain]

did you reach the wave or beat the wave

[craggy juniper]

both.. i figure reach means get there and then i kept going without krakens till about 74

[shy flame]

if they're a joke why don't they make me laugh

[chilly siren]

at least they give some slab

[shy flame]

copium

[dapper prism]

Yay div God rank 4. Spent ~3bil points when 100% is 10bil 😄

[shy flame]

rip activing gigas on ES because he doesn't quite pop pop

[rapid shale]

no reason to farm for 10 w5 mat bags with w6 coming right?

[dapper prism]

Dont know how easy/hard w6 mat bags will be 🤷

[shy flame]

are w5 bags hard to get or something?

they're great smithing exp and give you an immediate benefit

[dapper prism]

eh, smithing xp jkust do coldseeker bullets

[rapid shale]

kinda, hampters take a sec

[shy flame]

I don't believe in guns

[ocean igloo]

Hampter use for various crafts

[shy flame]

hampter main use is for loving and cuddling

[rapid shale]

just used 500 for Vman weapon

just thinking I could go farm pearler shells and get dreadlo tool on everyone instead

[shy flame]

my vmen still using boxing gloves

wait you have recipe for vman weapon from suggma but don't just have 100s of pearler shells?

[rapid shale]

i think i need like 200 more pearlers

[shy flame]

I feel like getting 200 pearler shells is less than a 1 in 50m event :x

[rapid shale]

much faster than the 1000ish hampters ill need tho

[shy flame]

btw trickz only just getting god rank 4 means their kung fu is weak

[rapid shale]

theyre not terrible to farm, can do some statues at the same time

[fathom lagoon]

Thank god I’m done w the hampter grind (other than vial)

[shy flame]

every hampter you get is a a new friend to love

wtb pop pops

[dry sierra]

Is there any way to push my void walker talent levels higher.. I see that I need lvl 250 to get the last Enhancement Eclipse buff, but the highest I can go is 245. Because Void Walker doesn't get any extra talent level bonuses. :/

[fathom lagoon]

Nope, not at the moment

[dry sierra]

ty

[wide halo]

.

[shy flame]

it should be okay to not like bullets :x

[wide halo]

But America :3