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for snakeskin 100%, is it lavamath 100% or actually 100% once you're at 27 + rift bonus
maybe i should give it another go
should i sneak in 28 just to be 'safe' or am i already there i guess?
27 is good
Yeah not sure tbh. If your idleon plays normally on pc and its the stream on your phone that is lagging then its most likely a wifi problem
you can check it on IT, but iirc its slightly over 100% at 27
Mine is a bit laggier than pc but overall is usually good enough
might be, il try with mobile network next. that should make for a solid connection
oh sick i can play pc games on my tv now
streaming your pc to your phone, and screenstreaming your phone to your tv?
not sure, i'm just reading that I can do it lol
very cool, thanks contracts
will be using this a bunch
For DOOT to work do I need to unlock the gods or just having Doot gives their bonuses?
just having doot (need div level 2) but there's benefits for unlocking them anyway
The second bonus of each god scales with div level and the third bonus requires the god to be unlocked to upgrade it
Which character should I use for boss grinding?
ok
eg: I despise doing efaunt on vman so will usually use ES
just do it on DK
any reason for this difference between IE/IIT?
get close to mid right arm, throw boomerang, catch it and kill efaunt
check the value you're getting from the stamp vial in alchemy. I've seen some instances where the extra length from equinox isn't taken into account so althrough the node is active in lab, the "vial doubler" effect isn't in play on IT
IE is also showing a 90% discount, while IT only takes the 40% discount they already have
but ingame I have this, so how to get 250 lol?
i that case, IE is telling you what the cost is with a 90% discount, and IT is showing you the current cost
have people reached the 5k acc level mark for obol space
yes
I have 2 gilded stamps though, it should be discounted
gilded stamps and atom stamp reduction stack
are hyper obols a reasonable thing to spent on or is it just a whale thing for DR obol build
so you're on -95% from gilded, but not on -90% from atom yet
its a whale thing if you have nothing else to whale on
it should show you here
Whoop Whoop! 600k damage
ohke
guess i need to wait 3 more days for atom then
thats pretty low for pushing w4 imo
dont waste gems on hyper obols
but what about slab?
Hyper obols are great 
*Unless you have ovp rng
Or, decent RNG
spending gems just to get like +4 slab sounjds rlly bad
so I did make a mistake, if I didn't make another then at 20 no enhancements at lvl 21, 6 enhancements seem optimal, and at 22 like 32 enhancements and then it gets kinda absurd^^
I've done worse for less slab slots
Did I do the math right? To pretty much have a 100% chance to get DOOT being pay to win is about $32,281 USD?
There's a pity timer
did you take the pity thing into account?
I have 2 DR ones, one all stat and 0 mk 
my RNG for that is shit
Yeah but theyre easy to get so its still worth the gamble
I did not, I just used the x3 that I currently have
I mean, anything that shows up on limited shop I just buy
does the lab bonus doubling vial bonuses show as the bonus or is still the same
Can I get prayers I am being an idiot
I mean he was right for the whales that swiped for doot before the pity timer was added
Eh not quite. Even on launch the 99% expected chance was still like 19k or something
Which is absurd but not quite 32k
its the same league of absurd as 32k
one collection of pixels or a brand new car, which way western man? 
any guides for totem worship from w5?
laughs in CSGO Knive Skins
bruh my bad nevermind
is it normal to have SB as a strongest damage wise
laughs in || can't trade doot yet, and will never be able to trade free doot ever ||
very normal
the damage skale seems insane after investing in GS and getting onyx food effect and speed
i meant QS
the 3rd tab damage talent also scales quite well
onyx food effect has only made it even more nuts
Not my proudest moment, but I spent substancially less than I expected it would take
Lava loves me
Yeah movement speed damage buffs is really good. Speed Potions > Bullets. Gotta go fast 
(only 50 dollars)
yea, that's def less than 32k
also i didnt realize that bullets also scale from food effect so would it be good idea to have them on for extra dmg

4 speed, gold kebabs and gold grilled cheese
๐ช
does food effect affect golden foods tho
no
no you just run with 3 speed pots and 1 strength pot for extra dmg
4 speed pots
is base damage better then having like a second weapon worth of weapon power
depends. 1 more base damage? nope
10 million more base damage? yep
10 million more base damage if you have 10 billion base damage already? nope
when you do the ~big click~ at statueguy, does it matter WHO you use to do it?
whats the big click?
bro what food gonna give me 10m base dmg
my QS sucks 
talent op
I suppose he's talking about deposit all
OH
and if that's the case, no it doesnt
yeah im just dumb sorry
yeah dont use that
lemme quess its like 4k
I think lava fixed it some time ago
ive got all 27 vials done finally + snakeskin 100%
he actually did? havent heard 
all onyx?
will think about that when my bob around 4-5k 
its safer to
real rude 
no way
there was a time when deposit all was bugged, its supposedly fixed, but better safe than sorry
but fr my QS atm like 140 and nowhere close to start atoming it yet
imo you should get all other bubbles to like lvl 200 first before you start with QS and other dmg bubbles
yeah i dont even think its worth for me to invest to it yet
i have been working on mainstat and 2nd bubles and weapons for couple days
is big P even that good
oh right larry
540 is a good stop
Why just imagine it?
what is the bbest strategy for unlocking gods? ive just been rerolling the lowest one until i get the 100% but it takes forever
no way
It's very easy to get compared to build speed.
use 500dollars to get doot'

isn't 200$ is guaranteed ?
idk the math
200 Rolls is guaranteed
that sounds lower the i thought
It's about 500$ from start to finish
oh i quessed it hahah
deal
500 usd. Now depending where you live...
iswtg i got like 5weeks in a row crystal one but still no rift slug
in my country, i can build a 1060 PC with 500$
or 115 popeyes standard combo
thats really sad ngl

are those new parts
yeah
i think 300$ for an i5 12xxx and vga, the rest is whatever
and a discount at the end of the year too
i live in europe and i have seen used 3060 builds for like 400 and it probably wasent a scam
other than 500$ whats another strategy for unlocking gods lmao
we/ i once put 8/9 char on divinity for gods and stuffs
when w5 came out
higher chances are better than the low ones though not by much
pray



tbf i was rlly lazy with gods only got to the 3x prints one
yeas doot is also 50/50
btw does anybody have a 2nd doot that i could mayby get for exchance i will anybody a bean
when trading comes out so in 4year
s
Spam 1% untill you get a 100% roll
thanks
Best map for bubo
punch too hard
W6 goes hard
3 K 3 6 4 ยน
3 K 3 6 4 ยน
W6 best world
i might need some FMJ for w6 crystals 
Next tier: Void cards
yep, i can't wait for void forge cards
burns 100k hours of time candy
pays 600 blue gems
๐ for all cards?
Is there some sort of meta on clearing the rifts where you need to collect skulls?
How does Goharut divinity work? Do you need to go to the altar to switch the type of meditation?
Is there a way to prioritize a target while on auto attack?
Just leave Bubo and ES on auto
Should complete itself really quick
Holy hell, I didn't realize Tenteyecle effected Raise Dead's cooldown. Alright, yeah, this is making sense. I've not actived much on my bubo since getting him.
All we have is the proximity type of targeting
Your gains show up in the afk popup
can some of you guys show me what your shimmer shop thing looks like?
like for example this is mine
eff all the way
ok but still show
gee
27 and it cost 6
thats like 1-2 levels a week so fun
30-40% is prob the max reasonable limit tbh
unless we start getting like 40 shimmer a week
Well card farming on SB isnt the worst, on bop boxes i am getting maybe 900-1000 cards per hour with very shitty 14.98dr
mine looks like this, got lucky with the book so i can put points into other things too
lol, when your cards per hour are a factor 10 larger than my cards per day with all toons
oh wow nice
i have to admit I am not good at putting effort to max the amount of shimmer i get per week lol, im losing 2-3 every week from not maximising it
yeah xd
wait, im stupid 
been so long since ive been on sb i forgot to put points and book it
better now 
(posting for time tracking purposes)
Seeing that HP made me realize i dont have midas on, fuck
why this game have so many mechanics 
I wish there were entire loadouts, not just card loadouts.
i wish swapping talent loadouts would swap other loadouts as well
as a pleb who still has seperate skilling and killing loadouts
Is there a point you have too many talent points and they just converge?
yea, you change mostly due to star talents
as toilet paper postage uses every single one of your star talent points
Damn, really? I have been slacking on leveling that bubble.
it multiplies eff stamps, which includes multitool and the skilling stamps that give base eff
I've been power statue farming all day and I just realized I didn't have the proper cards equiped ๐
so at least like 500ish points is great
what level does toilet paper postage hit 95%?
The scaling on it just seemed so. . . subpar. But I don't even have 500 total talent points except maybe on my void, so idk.
@teal lynx show colo loot 
meh, I was just like 30 colos in
and I'll just go to sleep fuck it
I'll do 60 tickets tomorrow morning and run the 150 colos
you sleep?
I'm trying to
working towards a regular human being sleep schedule
waking up 6:30AM and going for a 1hr walk before looking at PC
first time in like 2 years that I actually see the sun for more than 5min
HOLY GRASS?
NEW THUBIE?
who changed thubie 
i upgraded my mana box and now i have to be careful about my orb
if i calculated right it will tak me 427 hours
How do I get 20k power statues
Beans on toast DK
can someone double check my memory? Sandy pots on DK for dice obols right?
Or sandcastles. But since youll need glass shards for the stamp anyway, yes.
bubo is crashing at active wurms almost every day nowadays. Used to be much less frequent
What skills are you running on your bar? I haven't had bubo crash in months.
raise dead, cc, aura, spirit. in that order
i never crash with bubo
possibly my pc then?
Possibly. I run the same bar, different order.
Do you close all other applications?
I usually close down Idleon and then reopen before I afk for the night.
I have excel and discord open all the time but nothing else
idk, I'll give it a good cleaning, restart and see if it improves
Well while it might not be calculating, as someone who lives in Excel all day for work, it can still be a bit of a hog.
true, ill try with it closed
Bolbi and Bulba 
Once you are dooted, is there any reason to link with a divinity?
or just level up the blessings
Only purrmep
You want your highest div level linked to purrmep, as its bonus does not apply unless linked
Is that the one you put on ES?
Should that be ES or Maestro?
alright, is the town skill for W5 Sailing?
i.e., if you use a balloon in town does it level up sailing?
no boosts work in w5 atm as its the most current one.
Balloons/candy/pearls etc
but all 3 are town skills
Is there a pity timer on rift slug?
no
๐ญ
I feel like I'm missing something and I wish there was an easy way to figure it out. ๐ฆ is there a way to see how your damage is calculated?
Damage isnt really something you should focus, just focus on sampling, and by natural by product you will eventually have damage, once you have 1b+ samples, then thats the time to focus damage
And the formula for damage is insane, would not recommend
Max Dmg = [(1/9)*(WP^2)+Flat_Dmg_bonus]*Damage_%
There used to be a spreadsheet that let you keep track of all damage sources up to w3. Never saw it updated past that.
if you really want the damage calculations, closest you will get to correct forumla is by digging through the idleontoolbox github
and even that is not entirely correct, but close enough, error range on toolbox is prob like 5-10%
Sadly, that is not really correct ๐ฆ
that wiki page is correct back in like w3
updated 7 months ago
Maybe someone added something to it, but i assure you the damage forumla is much more monstrous than that
We're on v1.91 now
way off
pain...
Hey, I'm just giving the person who asked a way to calculate something 
we all know its the true lord
guess i need to re-sample...
I wouldn't this late
You aren't going to even break even before W6 drops, then you have to resample new w6 stuff
what if his samplesa are much lower
no resample gang
yeah, i just lazy, always tell myself to re-sample but always forget or too lazy to do it...

Recent sample gang
how high can that multi go lol
3.40
most ive let it get up to is 2
3.4x is the cap after 80 days, if you have the Eldritch arti
man, getting that to max bonus, it would require a pretty massive increase to warrant losing the bonus
otherwise losing like 50 days of progress or so
actually not
i'm likely to increase 100M everytime i re-sample (for oak and copper)
Have some math and a pretty chart 
other high-end player get much more
you still loss a few weeks of progress each time
regardless of that level of increase
Let's say 467m + 100m
i didnt have 1m sample on any logs except for oak and bleach so i had too lol
now i have 1m+ on everything
..how many days is 3.04x lol
alot of days 
70?
72 i think
If you only increased from 467m to 567m, you're in debt for 2 months
so 60 days
And that is only looking at hourly, not total across all of those lost days
ima just do a lazy number
gib values
it's a pretty considerable number tbh
means you really only want to resample if you are going to increase the % by at least 50% realistically
?
My last samples were ~55% or so and it still takes me a long ass time to get back. Gold Relic buff is super strong
im donbe with sailing
Again since W6 is out in 4-6 weeks.. Don't bother
now im going to sample to spite scoli
if u wanna torture urself like that..
Do it, you won't
i'll fucking press the button on steaks rn
i think scoli would just be 
scoli is that graph on google docs?
oooo lookin kinda juicy
we made it 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYl8fAqHkxDoXhINAjO3MiSOB-W2ZUtH9TVhA5w-tK4/edit?usp=sharing It is the Gold Relic Maffs tab on my sampling notes sheet ๐
Gold Relic Maffs
ONLY EDIT THE YELLOW CELLS! :D,Gold Relic Max days,80
New Sample,1800,19,= Days until New sample output overtakes old static output (Yellow crosses Blue),Days,Original Sample, locked to Output before you resampled,Original Sample if you hadn't resampled,New Sample,Days,Original ...
thanks mate!
nvm ur right i wont
I just made that within the last week or so. If you made a copy, you may not have seen it
Pay up
shit what do i owe ya
Say something nice to me, please 
ur bot stinky poopoo
jokes on u i wont level this 
can duckys roast be used for my debt
His bot is amazing, I don't need to ever again manually calc how many hours of candy I have
Why you hate

cause i have to click Big P to 1140 and my log bubbles to infinity 
i have so little candies that i dont even have to calculate 
poverty land
Imagine not having 1140
Damn, I was too slow to clip the 800k GT
I tried
Ah, Scoli, the master of slouching and the ruler of uneven shoulders. Your posture is so crooked, it's like you're trying to imitate a Picasso painting. I mean, I've seen pretzels with better alignment than you! But hey, at least you're saving money on chiropractor bills, right? Your spine is like a roller coaster, always taking unexpected twists and turns. It's a wonder you haven't been mistaken for a human pretzel yet. And let's not forget about your signature walk, the Scoli Shuffle. It's like watching a penguin trying to moonwalk. So, Scoli, keep slouching and shuffling your way through life. Just remember, even though your posture may be a mess, at least you're a pro at bending the rules! ๐ฅ๐
only 19k hours of candies
i have a small fraction of that 
13 days or 13 stopwatches 
keep the stopwatches fr w6
Calm your tits
dew it
Lava said W6 is gonna be in late Jan/early Feb
if i use 13 stopwatches I have to click more colo tickets 
ill candy some more bleach logs soon 
but aint no time like the present, checkmate
Same 

small gains it is
25k or no balls

where i can see this?
gotta candy the younger brother, oak too 
Eh, already candied Copper
Don't need no dirty ores right now
Puppies and kittens probably share photos of you with one another in their very own social network.
thanks
That's way too sweet
Y'old softie 

I am quite candy-poor because I can't be bothered to run colo 
Scoli ain't got time for that

123QQ coins 
yeah all this colo ticket and colo farming thats been happening lately has been scaring me
so i tried the PO6 thing for colo tickets.. 6 tickets off like.. 100 refreshes?? is that normal?
its a 1/10 chance, unlucky run
oh shit i broke 100b 
sometimes i get hella lucky other times helly unlucky
yay, another thing to test my unluck on lol
ik im poor showmn
where do u see what multi you have
toolbox character stats
thnx
I never know how to read your name. I call you Showman Dowman in my head 
he is Shaco
i cant even click refinery stamp once lol
I remember asking them if they were Shaco and they said no
Pretty Shaco thing to say tbh
Favorite Frog spot or are you lame?
Are there any good ways to farm balloons?
Gem farm methods normally drop balloons too. Colosseums, minibosses especially
What the frogs doin?
Their best 
Question about breeding - should I be gene splicing as much as I can to upgrade pets? I currently have wooden boards and crab cakes unlocked and the odds are pretty low.
splicing is always a yes
I don't want to give up batteries
Nope, I reset it
How do you have that much shield with only a 9 streak?
Get 100k with PO6

He's gonna add a W5 splicer and force us to farm a shitload of batteries
Just candy

Resetting without completing the request, unless the reward is a Colo ticket
Is thatโฆ an optimal use of pens?
What else am I going to use them on
Not really any other use for pens
Unless you wanna greenstack them

That there is some serious carpal tunnel just waiting to happenโฆ
Up dpi or use phone
I can't ever be bothered to get more than 5-10 tickets at once before I give up
Be brave
Oooh. Pixely and illegibleโฆ
Still not that hard to see when the reward is a ticket
Just do it on mobile, way easier

My phone is logged into my alt
I'm not changing it
Holy shit my nugget just went from 356x to 3327x!

get another phone, easyyy
Steal my partner's work iPad 
They don't need money with all the tickets I'm rollin' in
a'ight I give up
Anyone actually got 100K po6 orders?
@fierce oracle
One message removed from a suspended account.
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Use #bot-commands channel for this stuff
I guess I accidentally bought the ui
Theres a guy on IT with 1.7M chizoar keys, holding 3K tickets
I have no memory of this, just saw it said sold out in the shop
Mind if I DM you?
Nope, go for it
https://i.imgur.com/YbTps34.png
the only accident is Lava keeping me blueballed with last UI for over a month now 
its coming soon dont worry
im waiting for it as well
no it is, you can check haha
the other star talent is in 2 weeks
and the last UI is 2 weeks after that
Aight booty finally gotten off of. obol farming is going great
I wonder if the kattlekruk sparkle obol is better than dice if you arent using DR
https://darkon_kriv.idleonefficiency.com/
Hi! This is my profile what should I focus on next?
real ones know how to do it the easy way
It says so much stuff and I'm not sure really how to start lol
Like for example it recommendeds I do shiny pets I don't even have those accessible yet
There's a goalpost to figure out your steps to reach
so it's giving you recommendations but it can't exactly evaluate what you're able to do
This game has a lot of those, and carving your own path is part of the journey
usually I'd look at bubbles.
in general if you have trouble with things from later worlds I'd recommend looking at the recommendations for earlier worlds first
You could pick a stat or goal and try to learn how to achieve it, but it's hard to just say do x or y next
Well like pets seem SUPER slow.
look at your polearm stamp and your potion stamp
Pets can be sped up by investing in w4 colo for eggs, looking for ways of lowering egg timer, or spending effort getting the dna stuff, for example
get those utility bubbles going...so much to do
You could also research the most beneficial upgrade choices
Hey what's the best way to get lava skulls in rift?
only hit the mobs with skulls
kill, kill and kill
Can someone help me figure out if afk and skill xp cards work on divinity? I thought they did but maybe I was wrong initially
and dont clear the full screen
k tyvm
does the info change in your afk info page when you switch things?
usually divinity in the beginning is only affected by what one you are on
Itโs not for me, itโs for someone else but I can check quickly. I just wasnโt sure if it would actually show on the page or if itโs a shadow buff or something
The one being the style right?
yeah
Ok, then maybe itโs just the actual style and the other stuff helps overallโฆ
Cause afaik, there are no divinity cards you can equip right?
I believe so
Ok then yea
I think the only thing you can boost is how many points to earn
Yes
nothing really helps divinity. just get em all parked (on alter, if no goat, in lab, if goat) except 1 active if you need to active things - and give it a week or 2. check in to do things like change mantra to get more exp/hour (with 9 on, the +1 exp per worship one on is best)
I believe so also
Ok, I thought so. Thank you ๐๐ผ @manic moat you too
once you divinity level up a bit (20s) you can think about swappin to points over EXP
juts do 1%'s until you see a 100% for getting gods, it will be faster overall
The person in question just started divinity so it will be a while for them, but thank you for the info
Heard that
(sometimes the 1% are 5%, still go with the "low % chance" over the 50-100% cost, those 50% seem like a great deal, but THEY ARE A TRAP.) I failed 4x in a row on 50%
I only go for the 100%
and yes the total cost of points is the same for each individual god. by this i mean, 1% may cost 1. and 100% will cost 100 type ratio, with a 50%, costing 50. Of course they scale massively huge, but this is simple numbers to get the point accross
Anything else I go with the left option just to keep divinity points
so its straight up RNG if you roll it or not - which is why the 100% is so much better, taking less points/time overall
failing a few 50%s set me back literally a week lol
Agreed, got the Hare god that way so I feel that
I need vman first before I sit them back into divinity and go for goat god
Honestly i would suggest for you to unlock vitality
*lv 25
Or dont take out them in labs til you unlock goat
I basically got by on 5% or 10% until kruk
I think my div levels outpaced uh... gift costs? I feel like gift is the wrong word, but basically I could just spam like 5%, 10%, even 1% and then hello there new friend
W6 out yet ?
oof got new divinity god with 1% chance
wait there's a new one?
for me, I just unlocked W5
yeah, earlier divinities are realitively cheap, I got a few off 1% chance
then you unlock god rank and it's like "yeah 100% or nothing this blows"
2 more and I have goat and can start active play again
Same lmao
i've gotten up to god rank 3 on nothing but 5% or lower 
just casually hit when i can
if i have doot do i have both link + minor link bonuses
Does king doot activate all divitinities, even the ones I donโt own?
Since Iโm getting random skill times
of all but purrmep who must have an actual link done with to get bonus
yes
alr thanks
Don't you just get the minor link bonuses anyway?
One day I too shall DOOT DOOT
and ye ai think so, which is why you upgrade them even if you don't link to them
after i get my final sailor... i will totes level them again lol
Well there's like major link, minor link, upgradeable bonus
its been months since i looked at gods. lol
So the only real bonus for me to spend time unlocking divinities now is to upgrade them?
pretty much
from what i've heard you basically just put everyone in lab except for ur main pusher
I honestly can't remember if you need to be linked for minor link but I'm pretty sure if you're linked on on char you get the minor bonus on all, except maybe purrmep who needs a dedicated friend
since goat god links you to div while ur lab
ur in lab
so you're getting both lab + div gains
God rank
Ahh, so even in lab, I get divinity points?
yeap
No
So I donโt even need to have anyone on divinity
Sorry for all the questions, I just hit w5
pretty certain the lab one lets you get div and lab exp simultaneously but no div points
it gives points i think
nvm other way around, you sit in div altar gaining exp and points but no lab exp, at least if we're talking Arctis
talking abt goat
or you do other things and just keep lab connected
I think you may be right, mostly because you've provided evidence that you are and it'd be a bit silly for me to say "nah" now
you have doot?
except purrmep
even the ones you havent unlocked
the liger needs special care
it's a 12 foot long lion/tiger hybrid, needs dedicated linkage
oh for upgradeable bonuses, I'm like 60% sure the +x % divinity gains apply specifically to div points, which is useful
if you have all the cards unlocked as passive for a skill and have card doublers and need to sit up a skill card build what's that look like
something like this
just change the wis to agi or str if for mining and catching
thanks, I accidentally deleted cards from my skill page when I meant to change the HH page back to normal afk combat, and I'm like, kind of dumb so I couldn't figure out the cards
rip
I need a lil more xp to make this what's something good to craft to get here?
Like something spammy
Okay thanks!
the boost food gives a fuck ton
best way to get quick smith xp
๐oo okay
are coldseeker bullets like worth using?
I mostly craft boost food just to make bags :x
they are great for dmg and if your making them for xp you might as well use em
Dang that leveled me up like instantly and I only made 14
can i use this to get mail of snail
okay, I never really considered them before but they do replace like a middle of the pack weapon power cards
I mainly just want golden nomwich rn for all stats
yea its super quick
use goldseeker instead of the golden hampter or str pot
for max dmg
Kinda crazy how fast it was but goodnight guys๐ค
would it perhaps be better to use hampter if say, I have very few eldritch unlocks and maybe still need a couple ancients?
well for active using hampter is useless
but if your claiming afk time always use hampter if you arent maxed on sailing
No kebabs?
ah true yea, i just dont have on my toon
Golden watches
I'm honestly just activing DK rn to try to finish off my a reasonable amount of onyx statues so I can get the dopamine from see number go up
only that
Ye
Kebabs are annoying because I'm fairly certain they only come from post office or w2 colo
Should be saving gold watches for W6 tho
yea they are mostly from w2 colo and i like never do that lol
should I save w5 progression for w6 release?
yea i have 19 for w6, its not many but its should be good
my arti chance is the album that made green day famous
I'm mostly wanting them for the new alchemy bubble rolls and boron uses
yea depending on the resource may take a lil bit to get it to atom range
you can just unlock the bubbles now tbh
Ah, I meant vials
yea i think i stopped at w7 bubbles
okay yes you can not unlock the vials now
if you find a way to unlock the vials please let frogs drop pop pop
Are there any real uses for silver stopwatches?
I figured they're only good for adjusting the reset time to better match your daily schedule or something lol?
i believe the only reason is to just have reset not be at like 5am or something
yea i dont think theres any other use
I used them to reset my timer to 10pm my time, basically the only use
Only other thing I can think of is if you can abuse them like so that you use one right after reset to have another reset in 15 minutes?
And so on
"Oh I can get idleon daily garbage done whilst I'm winding down for bed instead of when I'm shitcanned on Saturday and still up at 3 a.m."
Like gold watch from wish where you have to wait 15 minutes in between ?
nah that doesnt work
was tested a while ago
Does it work if you have 24hr worth of them? :D
uhhhhh, not sure on that one
my guess is probably no
One important thing to remember about this game is that all the top players have basically lost any sense of reality and just sit in a chair on a 36 hour sleep schedule doing hourly clicks and just generally being insane
24 hr of silver stopwatches would also be a MUCH worse value than a single golden
15 minutes per silver, so 24x 4, that's like... uh.... 96 stopwatches at 2 trophies each, which is a bigger number than 96
or you just get the golden for like 30
I mean silver is silver 
We need a soggy cardboard stopwatch
worth 1/1000 of gold one
it's 192 for 24 hours of silver watches
you can literally buy 6 golden watches and have change for the same cost as 24 hours of silver
You guys know how some gaming companies tease for a big announcement
And then that big announcement ends up being about a nintendo switch version of the game being released
Is there anything more lame than that
wtf
I'm playing idleon on linux and I look up tips on firefox because I don't trust microsoft or google
So yes there is something more lame than that
Been seriously thinking about switching from chrome to firefox... I'm still not quite there yet
Mostly because of the devtools I guess
Okay so there is also something even more lame than a linux user with firefox
Yeah it's chromium based

I think if you're worried about privacy and security firefox is like okay, but if you really want it to be good you have to do some customization
Which means like every good game I've ever played: you need to get some mods
I mean you could just play on Windows - just don't plug the thing to the internet
There's a pretty prominent linux uh, personality? idk called Glorious Eggroll who regularly releases custom versions of Steam's Proton layer so it's like pretty painless to just play stuff on linux
unless it's old, then it's just completely wild
I can run rollercoaster tycoon and half-life no problem but deus ex is completely unplayable
Does Geforce Now work on linux?
I use AMD gpus so no idea lol
I think PopOS as a distro is supposed to be pretty alright for nvidia sstuff?
I actually don't know if you need nvidia gpu for that even
Geforce now is the game streaming service
okay you are right
Essentially a remote desktop to a gaming PC
as in like a game gets streamed to your pc?
Yeah. I beta tested it like a year ago. It sounds like a really shitty experience but it honestly works pretty well
Wouldn't play something like apex legends on that, but everything else is pretty much fine
I can't speak to how it works on linux since I'm literally just hearing about it tonight and I've never used game streaming services
All I can really say is that there's been dozens of game streaming businesses over the past decade and uh... they tend not to work out in the long run
Geforce Now has gotten pretty good feedback. There doesn't seem to be much overhead at all, like you could literally think of it as playing that deus ex with a ping of 50
as far as I can tell there's some people who got it working on linux and some who couldn't which is honestly uh.... very linux. I found a reddit post where the person said they got it running on chromium
ArchWiki mentions it works on Arch (one of the most major hardcore linux distros)
As a linux moron who doesn't really know anything about using the terminal, my guess is that if I tried to run GeForce Now it'd either just work, I'd spend an hour researching and then it'd just work, or I'd spend weeks trying to figure out why it wasn't working and then like suddenly think of the stupidest possible reason it may not and try that and it'd work
:D Funny story about that. I once bought a brand new laptop with nvidia gpu, my big idea was to make it a dedicated linux laptop for coding and stuff. Somewhy I decided to arch linux is my distro of choice. Everything went smoothly at first, but when it came to installing the drivers for the nvidia gpu, I battled with it for like 2 months and never got it working. Still have nightmares on that one.
Nowadays that laptop is running windows and is located next to my television. It's a netflix laptop now. Like it deserves to be
you could be running your netflix on linux (maybe not peacock, it doesn't like my OS for some reason
to bring things back to the game, the weirdest thing I've experienced so far is running Idleon flawlessly but being unable to even launch IdleSkilling
It always seems to be the same old story with linux. At first you hear how everything is cool and just works on linux and how you should just switch to using it. Especially when it comes to developing stuff. You then eventually decide to try it out and usually no more than 15 minutes after installing it you find yourself googling 35 different commands and bash scripts just to get some very basic thing working like you want it to
honestly I kind of enjoy that, like, it's not as convenient as windows or macOS but I feel like I'm slowly learning more about how my software actually runs, how unique and variant things can be, and, to bring it back to the game again, I recently tested gigas vs beans on statue drops for an hour. Plenty of people have already done it before but I wanted to see the results for myself (Giga only use is dropping pop pop)
tbh the biggest problem with the linux community is they'll give you the right command to use but not tell you what it actually does or why you should use it
I've literally bricked my OS using googled commands and then just like... refreshed the install with no loss in data? That's uh, definitely a big change from factory resetting a corrupted microsoft OS
And especially how in the f- did someone came up with it in the first place. Even if you find an explanation, it's something ridiculously elaborate and deeply rooted to some specific inner workings of the kernel or something
Yeah, I'm definitely too stupid to be a linux user, but I also like that I can go into the terminal and type in like, "sudo apt self-immolate" and my computer will just explode
like it's definitely my computer and I can do whatever I want with it
For me, WSL was a godsent. I can work on my windows like the baby I am and essentially have a native linux running on my second monitor, which I can also hard rollback or reset if I screw something up
I mean, you do coding stuff, right?
Yeah. The issue is that I am doing data-analysis stuff right now and there are some (python) libraries which simply do no support windows at all, so some of the stuff has to be done on linux
My, admittedly very basic, understanding of coding and linux/windows is that it's way better to code on linux but actually running a program is so much easier on windows
it also feels weird for python libraries not to support windows, python is pretty old but pretty useful
Wikipedia is telling me that python came out in like '91, which means it came after both DOS and uh... MS 3? idk what the precursor to DOS was called, but windows has also been pretty focused on end user business and consumer experiences whereas python, afaik, is great with data sets and things like that where you're honestly just gonna get more support on linux because it's the shit you'd code on a server
okay apparently windows 3.0 came after dos :X
For coding and stuff, linux is like... on paper it is technically a thousand times easier to build your development toolchain, scripts, automation, virtual environments, ... and so on. It's also way easier to swap out your python, node, ... etc. versions or have multiple version installed without everything getting mixed up and breaking each other. Windows is constantly fighting against all kinds of scripting and automation and even if you get past that, everything runs kind of slow
So it basically comes down to linux not fighting against you when you want to do something, but it's a lot harder to do that something even without opposition
And on windows the OS if fighting against you constantly, but it is easier to do what you actually want to do, but you have to fight against windows while at it
Ah okay, sorry for all the comments and questions btw, I'm hoping it doesn't come off as like, "I read the headline to an article once and now look at me, I am the IT captain" and more is just showing I'm genuinely curious about this stuff and want to understand it even if I'm not exactly well equipped to understand technical details
There's also OS specific calls that python libraries could be making in Unix simply aren't there in windows. It happens with antiquated libraries I use at work all the time
I do get the thing about feeling whether or not the OS is fighting you. After I switched to linux I had to borrow some laptop for a reason I've forgotten that ran windows and I tried to like do something and the antivirus/windows defender/admin screen control whatever just popped up like "STOP", but in like the way a TSA agent would tell you to stop before the full body scanner, then like say, "you've been selected for a random search" and then just feel you up, which is invasive, but you're also like "god damn if I miss my flight because this 60 year old dude can't stop touching my legs..."
My thoughts exactly. Most of the libraries do, but when it comes to data-analysis and like machine learning, they're catering to linux really hard. Most likely because the actual scientist working on those areas have been taught to use linux+python in their universities and as they're not really developers, they don't care about OS support per se, as long as they can do their science
That's a bit hyperbolic what I said, but I do like appreciate that linux is like, "yolo dude crash the system like I care"
why are all the idleon players in w5 chat rn IT professionals
I uh, I know the difference between an xbox and a 360
It's the addiction to doing math and managing systems, we just can't get enough
Im currently coding in Angular ๐
Yeah that's most likely the cause. Those libraries are most likely made by non-developers who still know their way around python though. It's just as easy to do something like read a file with python in a way that only works on windows as it is to do it in a way that works on most operating systems.
pls help me manage my jail system in prison architect, they're always mad even though every meal is candy
Whether you already have a job or not, I want to say this to every Angular/React/Vue/etc developer: When you've learned one of those, you can use all of them. So if you have 3 years of experience with Angular, you're more than good to apply for a React job. Just something to keep in mind :)
One time I used basic to get the terminal to print hello world, what job am I good enough to apply for?
McDonalds 
they'd be lucky to have my help
toilet man
I hear toilet man makes a decent living because no matter how the economy is everyone poops
at taco bells
At least where I live, plumbers make a stupid amount of money
can't work at taco bell, second gen hispanic
Agreed, I regularly switch between React, Svelte, and Leptos all the time it all boils down to the same general vibe
1st gen hispanic people fucking love taco bell cause they came here in their 30s and were like "what the fuck a doritos shell with sour cream?"
Honestly I'd probably be a pretty good plumber, my parents thought when I was a kid I'd go on to be a programmer or video game dev but then like I actually grew up and was like, "yeah what if like... what if I was paid to carve wood"
"what if I made 100k a year sanding walnut"
how come when i farm statues overnight It stops at a certain point and instead get a couple hours afk time? is it cause thereโs too many items on the floor?
Nah, don't worry about it. Besides, we all know that the best way to get a correct answer on the internet is not to ask for it, but instead give an incorrect one and everyone will get up form their seats to give you the correct one xd (not that it's what you're doing)
Your computer might be going to sleep and causing the app to pause
oh ok true ill try on my phone then
tbh I stopped worrying about giving correct answers in college so even outside of the internet if you're just wrong someone will try to tell you you're a dumbass and it's better to be a dumbass with better info than to be quiet and slowly getting even dumber
Are you studying or aiming to work in IT @shy flame ?
No I wanna sand wood lol
I'm about to turn 32, an acquaintance asked me what I want to do in like that big, "what is your life aspiration way"
Ahh it sounds like you've already worked in IT for 15 years then
I just said, in probably the most honest and true answer to that kinda question I've ever given, "I don't wanna do anything, I just wanna eat fish"
i was 28 when I got into IT, been 3 years now and life is getting better
I want to set up a nice little coffee shop and hire a nice little grandma there to make apple pies
like if I had infinite money I'd like to open up a community art center
What is the average IT salary in your area per month
Depends on the sector, level, and position
I think that'd be cool, just a building in downtown Houston for people to be able to come in, work on glassblowing, know that even if they can't afford paint and canvas there'd be one there, space for sculptures and 3d art
Im fullstack and atm 1.9kโฌ
Kinda low to be honest
I'm kind of salty that Elon Musk was basically living the dream of everyone where he could just start a company making flamethrowers or space rockets, but then he decided that being an asshole is more fun :|
what's average pay for level one tech support that's read further in the manual than "did you turn it off and on?"
I'm making 5.5kโฌ as a software architect in Finland
that sounds like a lot and also you get to live in Finland
Oo we are neighbours, I'm from Estonia

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I live in Vietnam and next year will go to Australia to study and work in IT
I don't know if the salary is good there
Vietnam is cool, australia is cool
Most programming jobs are fairly competitive there
I'd say you're looking at something between 2kโฌ and 2.5kโฌ in here at least
I like that everyone in America just knows pho from vietnam which means more bun bo hue for me
Dont forget banh mi
Nah screw australia
poison spiders, poison snakes, poison bears, sloths with aids, everything stalking you form the treetops ready to drop down on your head
I also love it and eat it every breakfast 
australia also has blue tongue skinks
Okay I need to know: pho or bun bo hue?
Apparently the only picture I have of my BTS is him refusing to eat on Thanksgiving
Oh.
On my phone it just looked like the skink picture, apparently it was the screenshot from when my aunt said in the family group chat that the first grandchild was coming and then for some reason followed up with the fact that, in addition to a kid on the way, they adopted a rescue?
Maybe they want to maximally screw up their finances?
I just remember like 4 years ago my abuela asked if I was seeing anyone and I was like, "no, I'm trying to buy snakes" and she was absolutely crushed
She's finally getting her dream of great grandkids and for some reason this is followed with "hey, they got a rescue" not even "I got a rescue"
demographics + geography chat
these days its looking like i need more idle skilling help than idleon
Is there more idle skilling stuff that gives something for idleon?
upside down australia ๐ฆ
I only know of the red key guy and the codes
Nah I've done all the codes, I played IS before the event
300 gems,card packs,BALLZ and all
help me im in desert and my dmg is still shit ๐ฆ
As with idleon, the potions/vials are the key in IS as well xd
vials??
From farming
not unlocked xd
I'd set unlocking that as a priority
think it unlocks at w3

my dmg is 100k against 2 mil hp enemies
should i buy green key or auto progression for w1
what even are these
Idle skilling ?
not that what the bonuses do
Trying to reach lunar isle ( auto progress is very good) sadly i dont habe from dungeon onwards
what does auto progression do
It helps you move to next enemy whe the next enemy unlocks
Without doing manually
So you only need to change tge world or location
The auto is their
No
Rip
But you can let the game run in bg
What do I pick 
My dmg sucks tho it's only 100k smh
Yea
Which one is this I'm at coin pouch or something
The second one
Alr I have like 70k silver ig I'll go all in
Ya and also you can spend some in coin to boss the coin from mobs
My mobs suck it's like 1 hog and all asteroid I have 5 slots rn
Damn
Currenty i can not do afterlife 47
Any early game setup?
I did spend a lot of time in realm
Only have pig and rock
I used pigs get realm xp and got baby eggs
Then baby eggs to duck to goose
I just played and it worked out somehow
Aight
A fake, because auto progression only works with the game open ...
you still can progress when game is started but not active window
so auto progress is ok
but it wont change to next area
Does chemical plant not affect snail mail
Snail Mail is on daily reset. Not from Gaming Progression
i'm closing in on w5. 2 stages away. what should i do when i get there
ty sir
Hi guys, i was wondering if someone had tips for fast class XP. I noticed that the skill to class XP converter allowed converting gaming XP, but that one doesnt seem to work (understanable though as it would be very much overpowered). Is there any other way besides farming the last map in world 5?
5000 more..
I DID IT, finally a drop wings
I know that feeling
got all yellow skulls 
Upgrading Grind Time - The Big Yellow Bubble that is under your original message
Second thing would be killing crystals (on last map of W5) and using the Fly + Moonmoon Card + Ghost Event Card if you got it. Those give multiplicative XP when active
Thanks, the fly card and ghost event card (if i have that one) were cards i havent checked out for farming XP
also this will help for exp (and drop) too
Is there also a tip for grinding water to upgrade grind time? Water is already scarse when upgrading other bubbles with atoms
But usinmost of these prayers didnt seem to increase my passive XP gain
only these 2 if you just need exp (in case you can't one-shot crystal when full equip like me
Using a Bubo and doing lots of Cranium Cooking
I think you never set that up, if you are asking for it. You want a rundown on that?
I figured out two days ago that cranium cooking also gained water yes
it surely help
yes, it's because equinox
CC always gave water
you better max it first when start active
ah...right. I just thought about the other thing, sorry
So you atleast know about it, that's good
That is really the only way to gain water and later on you can get like 5k-10k+ water every 15 minutes (depending on how good your Cauldrons are)
yay bubo just hit 90 alchy
What? So quick?
My CC has still a cooldown of 7/8 hours
And get like 1k water
The Skill "Tenteyecle" reduces your Cooldowns - This includes CC cooldown
nah, that must be lv 300 cauldron or more, mine at ~250 but not that quick
yea your "40K' just won't show until you get enough kills per use to really matter
which is better for 2000 killroy kill?
140k CC , i guess I am finally getting to low-mid grade
Timer
and remember, 40K is like.. 11 hours.
So its very much actively playing then? Okay, lets see how that goes on this caracter
Thanks for the info
yea 222 tentacle gives you 69% chance on kill to reduce 3 seconds of cooldown
so.. 10 kills, is 10 chances for 3 seconds each.
Yeah. CC greatly takes off when you hit 200 Talent level on Tent, since it gives 3 sec reduction at that point
almost done 
iam sensing eyeball poking in your near future
kinda sad my first Xmas here iddn't have the xmas drops
just buy the christmas bundle 
it rotates
but
christmas pack is probably coming back next christmas
i think
it was a pretty good pack tho
3 snooze hats + gems + gift boxes
You can only buy one Christmas pack. So if you already bought it at some point you can't get a second pack
And as Princess said. It might have already rotated out
i haven't bought ๐ฆ only started in october and was praying for event
big greedy ;_;
Then it sadly rotated out 
yea i didn't see no xmas pack that would give the event items for slab use.









