#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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everything but the firsts were set to 10% so.. nothings ;over' leveled, just under. lol
With as many refinery speed bonuses as we have access to these days, the window where balanced refinery ranks matter is shrinking fast
You lucky, lucky soul
i mean i haven't been playin that long. my reds are only rank 18. cycle is like 2:20
Still over twice as fast as the old minimum of 5 minutes, with many more bonuses to go
my simple rule for refinery ranks is the refinery above it always 2 time greater. and for the other slower options just do 2x also... and no matter what the slow ones won't catch up to the fast ones lol
It is pinned in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 , but personally, I would stop following it after the first page and just let them all rank up starting after Red gets 22
u can do 18/9/4 and not worry a thing
thats a next year me thing to worry about
🙄
(when iam sober)
Thought I could make it the whole day without someone making the dumb "next year" joke
HAPPY NEW YEAR
ok so like void bars are a bitch for refinery lol
Ya Darn East Coaster getting it faster than I !
only thing in the furnace...
🎊
Void bars cannot be sustained naturally. Needs to get changed to Void Ore 
furnace could use an update imo
I only have 80K void bars in my bank
math is some time scary, at some points it treat "your expectation" like shit 
Denied
i mean the auto arm system and refills... so it kinda does
just have like 10 slots of void
Not even close lmao

ikr, only way to it burn all your candy on it or rotate characters a LOT
only on 1 character lol... per day
hopefully it gets fixed
or.. like.... every furnace be void bar makin
start when you get void first - worry about when it become unsustainable 6+months later
Let's say you have 16 slots filled with Void. Before any oil or other bonuses, you get 10 void bars per slot = 160 bars per hour. If we're super generous and say every single bar somehow triples, that's 160*3 = 480. I need over 10x that at Rank 14 Nullo
@fallen torrent happynew year to ya too. eastern time zoner
WTB Blast Furnace update 😄
i dont see the issue. its not like you NEED to upgrade.
idle game - just let em stockpile for 2 years.
Ah yes, my 3000 nullo salts after 2 years, lol
just give us some more smelting speed/capacity and done ^^
more cap is all i need 
i mean i been crafting iwth my nullo salts and down to 2k lol
it's always like this until you're done with armor/skulls
and that just takes a while
but once you're done, there's actually nothing to spend it on
just need to candy 50hours on my archer/week 😄
unless you want rng roll the armor again
active SB time? lol. Archer talen "Smeltin' erryday"
pro tip, save 1hour candies for smelting...
"save" is the wrong word
it's more like nobody wants to click 1 hour candy anyways
merge candies when?
unless im smithing haha
i used like 200 1 hours on dreadlos on my Vman trying ot get lucky lad for equinox.
RNG hates me though. Just like DOOT DOOT.
BM+ gets skill to merge candies, with 200+ rank a chance to merge without consuming.... then BM will finally be good. lol
lemme break them into 1h candies 
the game outrage from doot lol
id just like a machine you can 'simulate' - consume 10x candies, get the results in 1 bar, etc. and you can pick the multiplier.
so "ok, lets use 100-1H candies" and Beepity Boop BOoP AFK_gains window popup
it would probably be easier if you could just turn 2 1h candies into 1 2h candy and so on and so forth
press and hold 100 times...
But my anvil materials and spore caps 😦
man VMan got choco chip today and... its just wave after wave of crystals
Imagine if Lava let us use candies to speed up weekly free pet timer, the dream, lol 
and snail 😦
Did you upgrade ur cap 
spores can f*ck it ^^ Without the storage companion that's entirely pointless
Had to go up to 25m on my SB to not cap with 4hr candies
Just get the companion 5head

i got up to 100m cap so i can do 24h candies
i was hoping it wouldn't be 5+ months of not having 10K gold nugget.. but.. it looks like Iama ring in the new year with.. still under 10K nuggie
Why does your speed suck so much
but 💳 can

9539 gold nuggie for life I guess
prob cause
i put 5$ on, my biggest mistake
pls give me your capacity
im -114 points
I'm thinking that every week....I'm missing all top ones and they add up to at least 10% overall....so a 1 in 10 chance to get at least one of them but alas.....that seems to be an utter lie

get dem free points already!!!!
my seashell is levle 92.. am i doing it right
I cant spam bubbles yet so my speed is still low... :(
Around lvl 280 Larrrry at the moment...
I want to go to bed but I can already see the boomers across the street sitting outside waiting to light off fireworks 
no sleeping today scoli
who you clalin a boomer. get off my lawn!
1/5th to 1100 
lol "boomers" and fireworks... nice pun
I'm walking my crying baby over and making them listen to her scream when she gets woken up by their fireworks
what gold foods should my Vman have....
that sounds like a 'we wait until he goes to sleep and then make the most noise possible kind of situation', so the best course of action is to bait them by going to bed way earlier and then just getting up again ^^
Stopping at 500, lol
in my news those under 16 are making them
have you guys leveled larry with atom clicks?
u can always circle back
@elfin cape clean 8k done 
13 crystals in a row! i love it!
It doesnt work that way
Remember to at least get 501
Exactly 500 is bugged
oh right. iam ok powered now, i should increase crystal spawn chance. i skipped the stamp and all cuz i didn't want my w4 push to be hindered
i want that pet 
omg lol... like 80 days!
how would that hinder your w4 progress exactly?
crystal mobs would 1 shot my weakers when i pushed through to get elites, then i pushed with BB while doing other stuff and just.. never got back to it
Too many crystals when you don't have the armor/accuracy to deal with them is a problem lol
i pushed through as family instead of delaying
fair point
to get elites
then they all split and i got bogged down with everyone doing something els eand forgot about the crystal spawn chances
no u dont 
80 days?
the real question is is if 10T dmg is enough for w6
i will 
It should be for at least mid W6
one day
early w6, definitely
id say late w6 it might be pushing it
as for late w6....not sure
rly u think it will scale that hard?
i mean, w6 is under high NDA
considering that people's damage is already in XXQ range, we probably will get some crazy scaling in w6
you can never touch it again
nah its gone
Uhhhhh
but I'd also get if they wouldn't have as much hp because if we need 10m kills even at the beginning of the world, it would take ages to get through it without multikills
i want a ninja class
i dont thing portals are gonna be like that - i think they are only so large in w5 right now, because it 'gave people a delay'
yes, portal requirements get reduced when a new world comes out but not like he'll remove an entire 0
otherwise people, even without candy, would blow through them and have nothing to do.
not like wearing yellow headband and pretending that you are ninja
probably will lol
be my guest. i take everything over the active skillset of bb
im glad w6 is coming out so late, gives me enough time to eclipse 😄
eclipsing is a journey wow
i mean, ill take active BB over BM
same...i was happy that i could still catch up some more
👀
you do know that BM at least has a respawn talent while BB literally has nothing
Fiery bear claw 
at least you get to draw enemies too you on BB - vs having to literally walk everywhere cuz your AOE is on CD 95% of the time
I mean to be honest some of you guys are beasts in the game so it doesn't reall mater.
It's like playing darksouls at sl 999 and worry about builds
Ah yes, the age old competition for the worst, BM vs BB
2 DK get high cons XP while active BB 
sorry but their miniscule movementspeed is pretty pointless
you're a lot faster if you just run to them yourself
there is more benefit to Active BM - but active BB is more fun to watch.
run 2 BBs until lvl 60 on every dish 😉
is anyone so far in cooking yet?
your construction will suffer greatly
i know that people have lvl 60 meal levels of the early ones but what about the later ones?
probably. look for streamers that have bene playing the game for years and sink thousands into it
No. Nobody has finished all meals to 60
not done but some people are fairly far into it
W6 new class is 4th advancement class?
maybe
No confirmation, but I'm betting no. Alternative Elites
tbh get a few in lvl 60 real quick than swap over. lose way to much benefits
HMMMMMM
yes, it's alternative elites
I don't think its gonna be alternatives, it would really ruin the game - and we'd need more char slots.
i'll take more slots
Not enough character for each class if alternative elite though😂
yup
which I'm not looking forward to because that will mean I have to subclass swap one DK if we don't get another character slot.
57 meals, 60 levels = 3420 possible max
strongest beginner with smallest mats bag 
Sure there are. We'd have 9 unique elites plus Vman = 10.
assuming we keep only 12 slots, and just 3 alternatives come out - we still can't do 1. (and that's assuming Void isn't an alternative but an evolution)
W7 will be a different story 
W8 introduces the patience mini game.
can't imagine clicking for a forge card higher level than ruby
omfg... starting that game as a gigachad is so nice
maybe gems shop for that is a goodthing after all
Godshard Cards incomming
it wont happen anytime soon.....
i still don't have ruby....
yeah, I just did ruby ^^ but at least i don't have to consider whether it's worth it anymore. I can straight up use a cardifier without feeling lazy then
there will be a lot of flex 
my construction is very weak. lol.
I can still read the numbers/hour - not high enough
3/5ths done with my last flaggy slots...
once you get atoms into the alchemy bubbles for construction it skyrockets
Cog clicking too tedious
Just like gaming clicking
i dunno what that means.
iam still trying to get 48 double ulti cogs or whatever for equi
that's gonna take some more time
1 month from full board for me... :(
yeah gaming clicking at least ends................................
i hope your mouse not expensive 
I hate cog clicker more than nugget clicker
how about neither? 
198-200 is usually when you hit the 100m mark on a non-warrior
theres a nugget clicker?
gaming at least harvest all and who cares if it's a chemical... just harvest all and speed this up
yes, it's called your hand
my hand has resulted in like 5 months of 9.5K nugget lol
then you're not gaming hard enough
just click 
highest ive seen pop out since is like 4.7k lol
you gonna be painful at cog clicking but you need to do it, soon or late
but my plastic only presses at 10PSI
Your hand can press a lot higher than that
i have 3/8 chems atm, soon 
only if your paying the $5K+ USD to buy me a new hand
prosthetics aren't like video games yet to the civilian life
idk, step on your mouse then
you think i have legs!? how dare you assume that.
Ok, now you are just dodging solutions, jeez, lol
I am gonna 3D print a funnel point that i can smash my forehead into. you happy then?
Works for me, I guess
alright. ill take that as your agreement to pay for my concussions
sure, have my life savings of $3.21
YES! double my bank balance!
Not even enough to pay the Nessy smh
why would I need to pay her? She and I go waay back. I got to ride on her back across Threed
At what point does gaming stop? not much past Superbits is there?
90Q red bits is the current final threshold
Anything after that is futureproofing / flexing
meanwhile an entire day of work and i might get 10M
in 5min of work
I get about 5Q Green
it scales lol, like everything
still not even close to Q
only like 10000 off ok...
iam sittin on 775K greens. lol
yes. just do 5 minute work 10000 times and you're done. easy ^^
the snail is a grind
there is no snail (for me)
I'd like to kill it
I'm kinda spooked to push anything other than a guarentee on snail until I have sodium levels
like I'd literally like to kill it, so I never have to look at this stupid snail again even if i would lose all my bonuses from it
need salt? play overwatch. full of salt.
so it basically is so strong off rip, huge jumps... but then it really slows down 😄
who said it was fast to begin with? 👀
it's all relative
no, it's all rng
well, it all balances out eventually but at least I never feel good about rng
28/200... years to go for me...
not that it matters that I'm not even at the last stage yet.....4 years or 4 and a half barely make a difference at this point
have low expectations and be excited when you exceed those expectations
true, the basic bonus is the strongest in the game. at 7% increase per level, no other bonus is nearly as strong
im not even high*
hi pale 
i can honestly say i have no expectations and yet I don't feel glad whatsoever when rng throws me a bone. I just directly think of how much worse the next level will be ^^
rng is relative lol
1min early, but 2 hours = ~586k kills, or 293k per hour
honestly thats pretty good
the first divinity grind is sooo annoying.. I'm 2hours away from my 2nd god
maybe ill do the doot schow
Happy Doot YEar! woooot
henlo stinky duck
i sorta just stuck everyone on but 1 active. and let them grind up to goat... lol
Anyone get new-years gem package in gem store yet?
Still got another 2 years for that 
i should probably make anvil tab V....its been.. able to be done fora while now lol
What does a mega crit look like?
you don't see it if you have over 10M damage because the yellow color overwrites it
but its green
you can see it only when doing random events
I really wish Lava would change that back to being able to see the green crit. I never actually got the chance to witness it before the gilded damage came out.
damn who pinged me
Ducky
fuck ducky
He said he'll never change to green again

But why? What is he losing from changing it back? 
The green is way cooler than the yellow
what was yall's fav update in 2023
Yellow?
isnt it pink
Aren't crits purple?
purple*
companions. i wasn't even playing at that point but the discord must have been a hoot back then

😂
💀
Another doot might make me quit the game but I'll sure as hell enjoy the sh*tstorm when it happens ^^
It's like watching Disney drive itself more into the ground with every bad movie they release. On one hand it pains me that they're dismantling great characters, but on the other I'm happy that people show them how bad they are by not watching, so they lose money.
is there a guide for active afk builds somewhere?
active afk builds? 👀
did you play b4 that?
yes. I played since release. i only stopped for a few months after w5 came out
now I came back and we'll see how long I'll stay ^^
i played like pre w3 release i stopped when the game got too boring when i couldnt get past w2 and nowim back again
do i have to ruin this 😦
me break for 3 months and look where i am now 
this game is cruel
Now I just need to know where you actually are? 👀
not even called mid-gamer 
you just improve it
im like at rank 13-14 while top 1 copper sample still around 50m
and then baam, burned out 
not that im talking bout the multikill bonus per tier
wtf is this mushroom i thought plants only have 4 evo's ?
im talking about old leaderboard, not actual rank 13-14 in-game
Happy new year guys!
what should i upgrade in the killroy run to finish the 2000 kills equinox mission?
saw people with at least lvl 60 "+1 sec" and 10-13 respawn for 2k
oh no i didnt even bother doing them when it equinox wasnt a thing
im at lvl 48 "+1 sec " and around 1k7 kills
my dk has been busy it seems
this is what the bar should look like right (i dont have 3s tent so ive kept the canister skill)
more or less yeah, i think the skull used to be on mine pre 200 tent instead of aura but i honestly dont recall since i was far from optimal then
unsure if the dice thing is screwing you though, do you not have the trophy yet?
idr what sub 200 tent is supposed to look like
but maybe try without it on wurms?
oh nvm you might not be able to do wurms
not unlocked yet
sub 200 is kinda a crapshoot imo, and i wouldnt bother with trying to do fisticuffs stuff if you cant one tick, that is a priority i think over the weapon range
so might just have to wait for books and alch to get bubo usable and just backburner the guy for now
can i remove an attack from the bar without having to replace it with another attack?
ig i can overlap it in the attack bar that removes it
mainly trying to take roadkill to 100 now and then somehow getting furry to get 200 tent
pre tent 200 bubo is still really good damn
the only logical way that doesnt require insane amount of work is to get slug and furry to get to 200s tent?
Just drag it off the bar
yea i found out i always used to drag it on top of the talent page displayed but once i dragged it out of it it got removed
fury + ancient fury is easiest tbh
help me they just keep to multiply
ez
oh shit
goddamn
u can get further 4 evo's by upg the thing
@open lava i have to ruin mine too T-T
So uh. I resampled fishing right now and something weird happend. I first sampled equinox and then went to docks but thought my sample increase was low (from 44k to 90k) and checked my bait and line. I clicked around but had the right ones on. Put the same again and sampled the rest and out of curiosity sampled equi again. Now I got 240k sample. Wuut?
it has 4 different depths that all give the same fish, so when you sample you sample a different depth each time
doesnt matter
That has also 4 depths in one pond?
each and every pond has 4 depths
So you're telling me if I sampled more I could've gotten even more just by randomly hitting the depth with the most fish?
That sounds like some serious jank
Brb gotta resample
not necessarily, if you hit the right depth they you got the max sample
make sure to try like 5 time
it show a different sample size and only the highest counts
If I choose my line for more yellow depth do I get more fish in the end?
iDK
You get more yellow depth fish if you hit it, yes. Also depends on where you're fishing because certain spots have better natural depth %.
do i spend my 72 hr time candy on flombeige or stilted?
Fishing sample is a pain. Lets say you are fishing for gold fish. You get your sample. If you change your equipment to get more cans and hit goldfish again, it'll rewrite over the sample with the lower rate
What for?
nothing rlly
If you have no reason to use it on them, then gmush on your highest kph
i kinda do have a reason i need to start working on troll armor
Jeah that gave me double again. Thanks ppl
what does the star mean i understand blue and purple but what does the star mean?
Fair. Uhhh well. Doing active ES would be better for getting the gold twine. Same with keys though. I'd still do stilted if I had to choose. Active ES still way better
I candied my 30 twine 
Star is just bunny
Oof
But why is he that way
Gotta eclipse the map anyways
Did I misclick my talents?;
Fair enough lol
At that point in time, I was not even thinking of eclipsing so probably what changed my strategy
Probably just bugged inteface. Checked and I have bear and talent bunny.
30 was for 10 sets right?
Yes, 3/set
Thank fudge he lowered the cost
alr time to candy flombeige when i get nobisect
39 if you want 10 Divine and 3 extra molten for sampling
Active es on floms should give the twine quickly if you don't want to candy
Ugh even with the new sample it's gonna take a month to max equi fish vial
Samples can never go down. If you hit Goldfish with Equipment for Cans, your Goldfish sample will stay the same
Wait wat?
Seriously? I could've sworn they went down. Well shiiiiiiit. I've spent waaaaay too long -_-
It says you sampled let's say 200k over your previous 280k, but in Printer it will stay 280k
I've bamboozled myself. Well makes my fishing samples easy next week lol
How many extra hours is printer go brr on average per day? If I'm close to cd using it?;
It would be hell to actually sample anything. You miss one thing and suddenly your sample drops by 200m in the lategame. I would be pissed 
Edit: Yeah you can just look at the afk info I know :P
That's what I did. I'd roll the dice until I had all the samples correct
Whatever your 1 cast gives
That shit never resets
I noticed a lot of guides say never pick chemicals. Why is that? I haven't found anything yet that makes it so there is a benefit to letting them sit if you've discovered all their current phases.
The higher the chem tier the more time progression you get.
Never pick chem until they get to Tier 5 is essentially what they meant
So it's less never pick them and just pick them later.
The time they give is tier squared. Tier 5 = 25 hours, which is enough to instantly reset Log's cooldown from max 22hrs
There are a few exceptions where picking at Tier 4 is also okay. Like if you came back from afk and your log is on a cooldown for <16 hours and you can start chem chaining with that Tier 4
Ah, I get it. Log makes more chems, chems refresh log, and it's a crystal mob kinda situation.
I unlocked Bear in divinity. Do I now put everybody in lab?
Man I have to resample catching too to get the equi bugs in a range that I can finish vial this decade.
I hate that
You will need Goharut. The Goat God. I think that's God 5 -> Then you can put everyone in Lab
okay, so just do divinity until then?
When I got to W5, I shoved everyone into divinity to unlock the goat, then shoved most people in the lab, but left my pusher and farmers out.
I already have t13 dust mites FFS but I forgor to sample equi last time
You can still link some people to Bear to get some of your lab nodes active if you want/that will benefit you in any way for your active farmer (if you active)
i'll just keep everybody in divinity until i get the death note booster god so I can do the vman quest
then take out pushers
30 mins in and omori already has this shit turned up to the max
anyone got the list for what critters i should be trapping to keep salts going and doing upgrades for bubbles?
Salts were Scoprion and Mousey
There is a message Pinned with every bubble material if you don't mind looking at that
Print critters are mostly done thru the rift bonus no?
sure can!
You can also do traps with a low timer and manually get them - They give more if you are consistently claiming them
You are doing too much Thubie. Or maybe I'm just not in a mood to get endgame status
Funni bubo finished 7 hours of afking in 1 hour of active
Now every colo I claim equinox kills on BB and every 20min I go on BM to claim those
No it only collects every 24 hours
Nah I just want to be done with vials
oohhh
I currently have my 7 Day Royal Traps and just wait till my Honker Vial is done 
do i need the crash box for anything in crafting?
Guess what 😎
thinkin about doing the 30 hour traps since its the best one i can get atm
30 hour traps on the meaty trapper
Ye, my honker hit 13 I think a week or so ago
W3 finished only 8 levels away from 150 and 3 mobs in w2 left 😄
Then I changed to trap for refinery as I ran out of scorpies and rats
Vman will help you out a lot, good job 
and now im running 20min

Going 10x on a sample is nice
35 mil kitchen speed :0
Which is mostly BC I resample so rarely:D
Trapping is such a weird thing for me. I really hate always going back to town and breaking my cons snapshot. I would do lower traps more if it was a quick ref feature
Vmans a kitchen cheatcode :3
Vman takes a good while to get going
On side note i finally reach 100k base speed without any alchemy or vman bonus only from meals
For cooking purposes that it
Just level 100 bone marrow no?
It will give some speed, but every new meal is gonna get better and better
At total plate level of 100 it'll give me 63 mil speed :0
Get 245 bone marrow asap
I can't 200 talents yet 😔
Oh. Get the highest you can 🙂
160s 😦
Levels give exponentially more
59 mil speed from levelling 1 talent Is nuts
Okay Thubie. There really is some kind of new years luck. I got another 72 hour after 20 Doot runs
How do you people have the brain capacity to remember buying the item every day
habit
BJPs were bad enough
It was pretty easy. You had to get BobJoe - So you just click through the different menus and buy everything in one go. Takes a minute
And you also need all those different food items for future Greenstacks
Taking a minute out of your day for progress is good :P
& spending barely any cash that you will not even notice is gone.
Not even halway done and the loot already looks really good for a minute of work every day
Remembering is the hard part.
Are you using IT? - The Dashboard is really nice to see what you need to do daily
is 400 on DK orb good for w5 wurms? its only book level 153 lol
Usually just IE. Pulling the raw JSON and throwing it in the reviewer. Morning toilet routine
ive been using the reviewer too! its nice !
Sounds okay. With 153 Orb you are probably also missing some crystal chance via Stamps, Shrine (maybe cards). So 400 is good for your progress I would say
best class to active farm death note kills?
400 is me running this setup xD
Most kph for the local mob is probably es
im trying to get my 1st godshard lol
Blue
blueish one after this
Ah I see. I don't know the names of the coins really.
i only know godshard lol
looks like the 1st day of the year will be with no sleep since im pulling an all nighter, its too late to go to bed lol
Rest is probably the same as the ore?
does fibers of absense work afk?
They go through the mining names. Copper, Iron, Gold, Platinum, Dementia, Void, Lustre, Starfire, Dreadlo, Godshard (not released yet, but we know the name from Idle Skilling and from game code)
Yes, but it's not worth if you multikill enemies
but if i can keep my tier of mk while maintaining it its worth?
If you don't go down a multikill tier yes
Yeah fibers is very weird 
It being total damage - is really Rough and then it only gives an additive bonus
fuck
Can you get all the jewels in the first part of lab if you upgrade the connection range in equi? I know you can't get all nodes but what about cooking+const
something has happened to my mman im gaining way less exp than b4 😦
yea i both have the jewel and have ti active
1 Point in the equi upgrade let's you get all 4 jewels with 1 char
i can reach to the coin node
Oh boi. Nice
I think all upgrades let's you get the 10% damage jewel in a 6 man setup, but not really worth, since there is so much else to upgrade
I can't seem to find how to see which divinity is active on my current account
Ayyyy
Oh it were actually 5 jewels haha
my kitchens still slow so i dont have most lab width upgrades xaya says my next one is quite close
Width isn't con range
Players -> Player Menu and Cloudsave : It will show the linked God over the head of every person
Well. You need enough width but con range caps it
Is there a website that can be use to check crystal spawn chance? Im currently farming for statue
oh damn.. theres limit to unlinking
!it
https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331
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Man seesaw is the last mob statue I need and it sooooosloooooooow
On the IT website I linked you can go to Characters, click the Char you want to check and somewhere in the stats tab it shows "Crystal Chance" 
when i collect all traps my BM need be always with max trap eff?
not set them, use "collect all"
Eff for traping is only important when setting
Shiny chance is checked at collection tho
Artifacts go down to a chance of 0.02%. It is meant to be complete RNG
What you can do is equip Golden Hampters on each character or link to the "Omniphau God" to get more sailing time. This way you could claim sailing progress several times instead of only once
Also make sure to not use Siege Breakers Talent 11 "Unending Loot" and set your Minimum Chest to the lowest you can
wait why is unending loot bad?
1 chest per island is poopoo
this thing was spying on me all along
This will show the difference in Chest Amount
😡
Every chest has basically the same amount of Chance and reducing that amount you get is not benefical
you'd never want unending loot unless you check in like every week
it greatly harms artifact gains
and sailing in general
You can also fiddle with min chest a little if you want that tiny extra chance and loot. Set min chest. Let them run. And before collection set min chest back to lowest. This way the stored ones have the min chest and the ones on ships are not discarded if they are lower
The amount of Chests is theoretically capped at 30 chests. This includes the Artifact and the Gemshop purchases
But without Unending Loot, your Boats are gonna get an extra chest. So you get your Chest Cap + 1 Chest from each Boat (20 at max)
Unending Loot would give you only 14 chests if your chest cap is 15
14 chests vs 35 is a huge difference
yeah I see that alright thanks a lot
also whats the best captain stats
do I want loot loot
Loot > Speed . Other stuff is not really worth
Early game speed is not too bad. But late game, full loot is taking over
im pretty early
If you have min tim Trips then loot over speed. If you don't then speed till you hit cap
Then I would try to get a nice balance of Loot and Speed 
You can always exchange captains later. So just buy whatever you can and replace when you find something better
All the other stats are kinda bad tho.
yk what i regret most in this game 😦
is wasting all my fucking tps and then forgetting why i ever tp'd
Cloud disc is nice paired with speed to unlock islands
But double speed should be better
time to farm gems and get more daily teleports 👀
2 Daily Teleports purchases got me to 420 Teleports each day :P
draconic first 😦
hey now...bullets exist
Draconic bein time gated is a crime
you better get to it then
free dmg=i can activate fiber
im doing idle skilling rn 300 gems needed
Or or or.
Don't use fibre
but i need more dn kills
Just get mk 4head
me not getting whatever the joke is assumes you get 210 teleports a gem upgrade then....that doesn't sound reasonable
what?
The 60% from fibres is calced from base kills. And just added. Mk does not increase the bonus from fibres
As long as you hit a single multi kill tier you should get way more than fibres
im getting like 7-9
Oh hmm. 420, number of Weed
The 2 purchases increased my teleport cap to 420 and I never use enough to not get max teleports
It was just a bad Weed joke 
Don't use fibre then. Losing a single mk tier is not worth it. Your mk per tier is probably over 60

ok im confused
why are my fastest ships taking 45 hours while some ungraded ones are taking the 2 hour min?
Hard to tell. IE or IT?
better captains
I'll run 150 colos later today to check if that also applies for me
i accidentally resetted my build but ended up getting more dmg 🤡
Vman moment
why do i sometimes see bubo's with the stingers on?
Melee weapon for aura farm
huh?
Makes you run more and spread aura aoe better
it was es
As ovi said you want to get as close as possible to enemies to spread your Aura skill
wouldnt a spear be better?
oof
Spear doesn't pierce anymore for non warrior classes
Cleave is gone for non warrior
And stingers have better speed and have damage bonus plus more slots
Also funni boxing
nobisect doubles dn kills right
do i need to refresh the map if im linking thru it thru es skill?
Don't know. but just do it lol - It takes a second to refresh the map
yuh
You can check if your damage number increases
it did increase but dn kills aint doubling is candy usage not fall under that
Then refresh map for science
aint working think its bugged in which case fml
You 100% sure you are double linked to "Nobisect"
Also you could cloudsave and just look at the afk info
Don't need to use a candy every time to check
yeah i am
so apparently these things have timers cos the ffect didnt immeadiately happen but now its working
or is it..
i gotta actually check this lmao
You can always link to another god. Cloudsave and look at your afk info after
Hey see on one window I am playing on Google Play games and on second I am playing on my steam account can you tell me that playing like is harmful or not bcz I am seeing it as harmful
You can't play multiple characters at once
Yah I know that
That looks so wrong 
the save will simply override if you try to multiclient with one account
Are that 3 different account then?
why can't lucky lads just be stackable..
Just use your bm as storage
Playing on these platforms is harmful or not
Ask lavaman
yeah i think nobisect doesnt work when ur linked to it thru es skill
So...
Your kills/hr are your DN kills
Browser is notorious to having bad sync. I lost an arcade stamp and ball Joe to it once
it was 30k b4 i linked
Bcz see the character i have selected in Google Play games is in w5 and on steam it is on w3
The character are both same
harmful in what way? don't expect it to save both because you only have one cloud save
i think imma let idleon rest for some time 😦
So that means
You need to reopen the game for it to update on character select, the game also needs to be cloud saved from the one that is on w3
If you just log onto the guy that's on w5 you would end up overwriting your save
Yes
Ok
yea it works now i had to close it couple times
Then I will get all steam achievements and start playing on Google Play games
I had to not do anything, but link to Nobi hmmm
You did something very wrong 
Idk why dont you just stick to steam, but sure, you do you
Ok thanks bcz most of the time I play idleon on mobile and the laptop on I am playing is not mine I have borrowed it from my friend for sometime
guess whos 1 candy away from vman
yippie
You mean the gmush kills right?
no i did that first
i need 40k kills in nuttos
guys im good right 😓
or do you need 16
Ok i logged in , i choose my character and it just show the character lvls and name
scroll down
Mhm
theres a "crystal chance 1 in x" thing
Click the Stat Button
Filter by "Stats" - Then there should be a big bar with lots of stuff and at the end it should be Crystal Chance
xaya im good right 😓
What's the best way to farm hampters
Really?
Oh thanks that work , tysm
How
what should my next goal be finishing w4 on all characters?
active ES or drop BM to afk there for hampters, not like BM has anything better to do anyways
Do world 5 on all characters
BM has one job. Get lvl 500 for equinox
Get your Elite Classes if you haven't yet and focus more on Alchemy 
cmon im not that bad ofc i have all elites
IE review bot
Damn , crystal spawn chance is very low
i cant remember my old build fucl
bro how
im missing 1 mil dmg again
nvm i was missing animal farm
i gained 1 mil dmg wtf is going on 🤔
and i lost 4k accuracy
Nice
not nice i value 4k acc over 1 mil dmg 😦
Should i try get 200% crit chance or just 125% - 150%
does troll have a kill him with full players thing?
It just 4k accuracy and 1mil dmg , it not like a big deal
if you have overaccurate crit focus on getting to 150 cos im sure oc can ut up the rest
im down to 10k accuracy 
I see
altho id suggest not trusting me since im pretty bad
This was only on suggmas haha. Better take a look at my Gmush kills/hr
Short Answer: Alchemy
Shaquracy bubble be like
Am i not here?
listen to actual good advice givers (not me
)
yehah its not there since barb is forever cooking away and cant catch bleach for shit
I can barely get 100k kils on suggmas
Printing bloaches 
so im not the smartest guy but dont you need points in agility to get accuracy for mages?
That will come with time. 100k is already pretty good 
You need agi on mages for accuracy yes
does this mean i have 10k accuracy without putting points in agility lmao wtf
Alr how did you get to world 4 without alchemy like man
joooo
gonna finish w4 on all chars now ig to prep for troll armour and gain some levels on the side
What actually the bonus of putting the character in cooking? Like does it give cooking speed?
does it help with drop rate per/h
gives ladles
Man you are chad , no alchemy but get to world 5
actually its quite common
That it? No additional bonus?
Nobisect itself? - No, it just doubles the amount of kills you get
Ladles are good. Especially when you get 2000+ a day
How much your Gmush kill in deathnote?
Is that even possible?
People are getting 4500 ladles a day I think - Those are crazy people
Definitely getting better from day to day
i keep failing
yea 
I can only get 15 perday , better to farm in colo
well guys im down to 3 teleports so im officially fucked
ye, that's my BB with only card set and talents for skilling
movement speed arc time 😦
let me see what I get with full skililng gear
Damn you crazy , what the hell
Impressed
whats ur ladle gain per day
my nblb isnt bad but its not good also fuck yellow bargain tag it ruined my life
how many
Like 10-20 perday
thats kinda bad
Ikr
have you chowed?
If you can, upgrade those stamps a little and your ladle gain will be massively increase
i think chow is pretty good for ladle gain
you set a new goal for me
Can you tell me how to gett these stamp?
3k stamps next
first one is from oinkin
Sure give me a second
just unlocked my first God. If I have Doot do I need to do any of the link, un-link juggling at all?
the cooking one is from the pig in donut map and the multitool one is from the pig on lampars
Alr thanks
What max speed can yall get like mine is 200%
276
Thanks
at that point colloseum might still be a better laddle source. but guessing imprecisely 15 or so ladles times the skill bonus is already an extra day worth of time for every day spent cooking
You only need to link to Purrmep, this is one of the later Gods. Else you don't need to worry about linking
Thanks Xayayah
yeah my ladle gain is definetly better than b4 but not too good since ive not chowed yet
show your alchemy ;>
btw thanks for mentioning stamps xaya, I forgot to use my discount from yesterday and its almost reset time
I aggreed since i can get around 50-70 laddle per colo
ok, better than I expected
Only 27 and a half days for 100k ladles
I should leave him in the kitchen while he's not on equinox
Might aswell go for 1m ladles 
but I need to level his div
only 270 days for 1 mil 😄
Wait i cant find where to see the bubble
IE>world 2>alchemy
Are you using the IdleOn Toolbox I showed you?
If you use IT: Account > World 2 > Bubbles
It's not looking as good as IEs Bubble system
But it's more useful
but to show your alchemy ie is more useful imo
IT's more useful for figuring out bubble costs required for certain levels
Ie?
!ie
idleon efficiency
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
1 quest away
im feeling happy first time in days ever since i got choco chip
the diamond grind ends 
and the purple begins 
if you use IE you can upload data and throw entire link here
IT also has the option. They updated it a week ago
ooh
man some people really cant let go of IE can they... it has pretty much been abandoned and people still try to say its good
you have more unlocked but i feel like mine is definetly close if not better than yours
I mean like it have its on speciality so yea justt use it
they do?
We are same , you have alot of lvl while me have more bubble
holy shit they do whoa
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yoo
Easy access to all my personal information and my credit card information 
seeing this makes me feel like ill never get a fraction of what you have lol
your shiny pets have surpassed their level or something lmao
I probably was at your point in progression around 6-9 months ago
Don't give up is all I can say 
Omg your account is disgusting(really cool) omg , highly respected
wait could you give a quick look at my thingy
why the sudden name change
bro was not invited to the trend
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
We got this tool for IE reviewing. If you really want a little personal review I could do that
We not even close to 1% from what this player have
I use IT tho? is that fine too?
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Terra_Blade it really works huh
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I didn't think I would play the game for that long 
I kinda wanted to quickly do my char and just thought hmmmmmm what can I do? - Played a lot of League so I went with GG
what setup i can easy to unlock purple spice crypt spice
you played league? thats hillarious
The bot also takes IT Data. So either put it in there or send it to me. I don't mind
ive sent it in the IE chat
How did you do that?
i play league not to enjoy but to study mental health problems
IT>data>upload>copy link>paste it
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Ok wait. If you are in IT -> Go to "Data" -> Click "IdleonToolBox JSON" -> Go to http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com and paste that in the only box you can
And If you want us to actually see your Account you would need to use the "Upload my Profile" Button in the Data section of IT and then post the link again
The Card is the same - A really good card
The amount of Candy you drop will be a little lower, but Gems gonna be the same
So free Candy and Gems is always nice
If you're short on candy it always a nice addition. You get 1 entry/day if you buy the mats... so when your DR rises you'll be able to do enough runs then too
But also for you Lunar: You would need to first click the "Upload my Profile" Button. So Data -> Upload my Profile -> Copy Link and send it here
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If you hoard now you might have too much to do an enjoyable run
Looking at you 2kish colo tickets
aight.. gotten to Divinity level 2 on all alts and unlocked Snake. I have Doot. I'm not quite sure what my focus should be now. Apparently all Gods (besides Purrmep) are "unlocked" now but obviously I can't upgrade them.
So should I work on the bullets in the image or keep meditating so I can also upgrade the Gods?
If your Lab still needs work, you can just put all the people that are currently on the Divinity Altar into the Lab. They will get divinity progress while in Lab -> Due to a God you are automatically linked to cuz of Doot
And yeah then work on the things in this chart
Lab needs loads of work 🙂
definitely do that then
Then Lab it is for now. You can still take out 1-3 Persons if you need them to work on stuff
1 active character, Maestro working towards Vman and if you really want someone afk farming some stuff
what did u use to make this? layout looks awesome
This is from Trickzbunny. Not sure what they used
I dodn't make it 🙂
how much does line length scale with lab level and how much is from outside multipliers and additions?
you can more or less entirely do it from lab level
the bonuses instead make things ridiculous 😄
you'll naturally pick up some line width as you go from cooking and the like, though
aight.. I'll park everyone back in lab, and active farm on my main pusher (ES), and level up Mastro to unlock vMan.. and otherwise work on all the other mechanics and priorities
Are these from a particular guide and where can I find it?
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
guess what
not really, trickz just makes them from time to time and circulates them as people ask
my guess is: it's 2024
#endgame-gen-chat message
Sakori you mind giving me some info / your own opinion on this?
I don't think it's impossible to have all those 450k pets, but looking at the leaderboard the Endgame players have at most 2 pets at 250k
I think having nearly every pet shown at 300k-450k is a little suspicious
wait what 🤔
1st godshard 😄
i thought it gives multiplicative meal speed
it does
definitely sus but I don't know the scaling from level
shouldnt this be way more im getting 2k increase??
the multiplier on this is typed wrong in game. It's only 1% what you think it should be. The number is right, but the description is wrong
it becomes the most important buff in the game as you level your plates tho
so no millions of speed for levelling it up? 
Hmmm I'm like really not sure if I maybe should send a little DM to Rash and let him decide from there. I also don't wanna get someone banned just because they had luck
it gets there eventually
so how does the calculations work?
lava forgot to add a 2 zero to transform the equation back to %
so u do the equation the normal way and divide by 100
i thought its current speed*1.066^meal levels?
so u have the speed in %
It's that, but divide it by 100 after, cause lava forgor
you've also missed some 0's there
Hello w5 (first hello w5 of 2024)
it is, but u are doing it wrong
the math
i dont google is wrong 😦
((1.0066)^x)/100
^
0.66% as a decimal is 0.0066, not 0.066
From what lava is said after we brought it up to him, he's happy with the cooking speed as it is
so I just bring this up when someone is confused they're only getting 2%
so if i have 100k meal speed it'll be
(100k*1.0066^x)/100?
go this setup if i have those unlocked?
divide this by hundred?
just ignore your current cooking speed entirelty
oh damn
yeah don't put your cooking speed into it
maybe one day once the rest of the game is finished and he gives the rest some polish. (just kidding, he will probably start a new game then unless this one is still running very well)
dmg build how do i proceed
I feel like a few 300k should be possible with luck, but 450k is way too much imo
This is giving you a 2% increase to cooking rather than a ~114% it's meant to
I sent Rash a DM and we will see what he does 
are you serious 
so i max skill 1 or something i dont get it
don't worry about it, your cooking speed is still good
this is consistent as you go. I get 102T% here, I'm actually meant to get 10.2Q%
what you get is more than enough, however. It just feels bad when you're low still
babywalk me through vman
idk whats good and whats not 
you want to spend a few days doing speedruns while also levelling these skills up (level chess talent in tab 3 too)
Each time you get more points, level those skills more. It'll give you more pushing power so you get more talent points
Eventually you'll peak and can't do more, then you wanna go to your skilling preset
main focus is skill 1 and 3 of row 1 ?
alr
the multikill talent on the bottom row is good, too
ill put like 50's into 1 and 2 and a little into the rest
skill 1 is huge because more time, 2 is huge because it is both an absurd multikill boost and a map clear, though with long cooldown
check the chess skill in tab 3
sounds good. Next time you speed run, you should be able to get more points, which you can then spend improving the skills again
and yeah chess skill gives you skill point for tab 4 so max that one
I might take a time to check if I'm able to see how high I can get
the issue is it takes quite a few eggs
most skills in tab 4 vman arent affected by +skill lvls
once you're at your limit you can use your skilling present. This is a preference for me so others may pick differently:
Green: Great to have all the time. Damage, worship/trapping, statues, multikill, cooking
Yellow: Useful but circumstantial. Unique buff every 25 points
Orange: Level onceto give all your characters a max level increase in their talents. Can reset after they've spent points
Purple: 1 point to unlock your talent points from speedruns
speaking of bubbles...the last purple bubble dont work for vman...even tho it says so
They shared a little below the image that they are level 79 breeding and only use Plat + Dementia Eggs in case you want more Information 
So just spamming eggs will not work. You would need to wait a week (or less with omni) to try
it actually works 
just leave the nest empty
really?... annoying
Yeah, but you won't get as high of a pet
ye
100 get me about this
i thought u needed to max skill 1 ?
ojnly on your fighting set
My update there was specifically for your skilling set once you're done
Not bad for the beginning
Those 360 points you can spent on stuff that will give you 20 portals next time
i managed to max all 3 first row skills
Repeat and get higher Deathnote skulls in between runs and you easily get 50 portals
I really need to go back and give speedruns some love
I did 50 week 1 then just never did a speedrun again 😄
I believe I saw an upgrade somewhere about shrines working in all worlds.. but where did that upgrade come from?
w5 sailing artifact
You don't kill a lot of monsters active with your BM and that talent doesn't work offline like the smelting one from Archers
So usually it's pretty bad
no club vman trophy? or did i just not get it..
there's a nametag
you get a name card instead
is this the set I should go for when farming Gigas for Pop?
yeah i got the name card
pops drop from the gigas themselves, so crystal mobs don't matter. You want pure DR
thanks
if you don't have any card doublers that set will be fine tho, it's positioned to double the crystal cards
time to spend the next year skilling vman