lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[potent maple]

i think this is someone that hasn't read anything about rifts in wiki or tips or anything and is making it ur fault 😉

[shy flame]

rift 1 only bad until you realize you just play ES or DK

can't kill enough enemies in time? simply make more enemies

[foggy niche]

True that

[shy flame]

d'y'all put a lot of effort into leveling your crystallin stamp?

[sinful aurora]

Define lot of effort. How many levels is that?

[glacial venture]

mine is only 200

[shy flame]

idk, more than 200? I'm mainly just working on having a better crystal spawn rate because watching choccy chip cause a bunch of crystals to spawn and die right after one another is very satisfying

[sinful aurora]

200 as well lol

[open lava]

i have but there wasnt anything bout each level done being perm in all of your chars

[shy flame]

it's like seeing a row of dominos that crap statues

[sinful aurora]

How else would you do a task on 3 diff characters?

[glacial venture]

think im bringing it to 210 now^^

[open lava]

do rift 1 all over on a new char?

[shy flame]

I guess the first multi character one is rift 3 which makes it understandable, but also in the time we've been talking about it you could be one rift 6 working on getting first rift bonus

[open lava]

im doing rift 3 rn 1 char left but i dont think my sb,bm or bubo can do it

[potent maple]

I had this bookmarked until I wasn't doing rift anymore #1098405279583961238 message

[shy flame]

upgrade levels, gears, double check that you don't have hp raising prayers active

[potent maple]

if their highest lvl character is under 200, it might just not be time to push rift hard yet, get some levels and stuff then come back

[shy flame]

i think their highest char may be around 150

[open lava]

these guys respawn fast

[shy flame]

go to gym, do not skip leg day

[open lava]

155

[open lava]

i have 270% ms only 😦

[shy flame]

idk what that means but getting your chars buff just afking world 5 means you can do rift faster and more easily

[open lava]

yeah thats what im doing rn

[shy flame]

and given how nice infinite stars and skill mastery are, which are both below level 20 rift to get

[open lava]

think ill have to do this with sc since my bubo aint really doing much

[solar drift]

small question about late game skillings, do you guys do every skill on every char ?

[shy flame]

yes because I am addicted to skill mastery bonuses

[solar drift]

so even on archer you do mining,fishing etc ?

[shy flame]

If I at least have the passive cards unlocked yeah, cause usually I can just burn a few one hour candies to get like 40-50 levels right away

[solar drift]

passive card ?

[shy flame]

lvl 300 bonus for most nontown skills

[solar drift]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/941384512510754836/1178644424822104107/IMG_5799.gif?ex=6576e529&is=65647029&hm=6b6098fb134607c331fe4af9e354ddc05cf2e42ea4fc747c2dd4bbaca6bdf331&

i see

well thanks for answering and letting me know my future

[shy flame]

So like for fishing at 300 you get "all fishing cards are now passive" which includes literally any card that involves fishing

[solar drift]

you mean level right ?

[hybrid spindle]

later on you want a total of 750 skill levels each for the extra sample size

[shy flame]

level for skill mastery yeah, which is combination of your skill levels across all characters

[foggy niche]

Now when this is calculated. It's the skill lvl of all toons in that skill combined?

[potent maple]

skill mastery bonuses, skill mastery is from rift (i forget the number!)

[shy flame]

this is why you also do them on all characters, if you can throw out a few candies to instantly gain 200 levels across four characters that's a fairly big boost for almost no time or resource commitment (at least if you have fairly decent supply or stockpile of candy)

[solar drift]

welp i guess i will find out later

[shy flame]

16

[open lava]

well now i advanced from being stuck in rift 1 to now being stuck in rift 3

[shy flame]

If you don't have it yet I wouldn't worry about taking your archers to the pier to catch a salmon yet

[solar drift]

ah im just world 3 , but was looking at leaderboard and wondering why people had every skill on every char around lvl 100

so wanted to ask if theres any reason to

[shy flame]

This was my gear on my ES when I killed normal kattlekruk and did like the first 20ish levels of rift, so levels are kind of just a huge factor in success to a point

[solar drift]

[shy flame]

it's just to max out skill mastery, which like I said, if you haven't completed rift 16 (which you probably haven't given it's a w4 feature), don't worry about it it'll make sense later

[potent maple]

also, you might as well get the dreadlo tools for everyone, they have the most room for stone upgrades for lots of extra stat

[open lava]

easy to do 😄

[potent maple]

eventually, yeah

[shy flame]

cooking 100 smh

[open lava]

think i might equip boxing gloves and active bubo until i complete rift 3 😦

[potent maple]

ok well that yeah i'm only lvl 50 on most, 51 on the guys that got me 100k ladles lol

[open lava]

we dont talk about that...

[potent maple]

do you have the choco chip from lab?

[solar drift]

why do you want to eq boxing on bubo ?

i saw it multiple time on some video any reason ?

[open lava]

you bet

[shy flame]

to auto when doing cranium cooking

[open lava]

to make the aura circle hit people if you active with wand the range is far so the aura doesnt hit

[potent maple]

really the gloves don't matter for exp i dont think

[shy flame]

boxing gives you minimum range so your character walks up and still places auras

[solar drift]

ah

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-22265960

thx

[shy flame]

it's not necessary at all, you're gonna walk into a respawning enemy eventually

[open lava]

why does it matter

[potent maple]

you get most of your exp from crystals

[shy flame]

also most of your statues for that sicko onyx man

[open lava]

i cant really survive w5 crystals lmao

6 mil and a dream

[potent maple]

at your lvls, we got tons of lvls in w4 crystals, that might help you get to where you can handle w5 crystals

[open lava]

literally afk'ing in w5 sent me up 30 levels in a few days lmao

[potent maple]

and for levels themselves, i think you only need these active, of course you'll wanna add your CC anyway

[chilly siren]

where is the aura

[shy flame]

where is the red die for trophy

[open lava]

i really want 200 tent but i only have like 160 rn

[potent maple]

nod, but you might be able to get 30 more lvls active real quick

[potent maple]

hahaha

[open lava]

the main pain in the ass rn is my lab is so fucked up i HAVE to max the length width talent on bubo even in my dmg build

[potent maple]

you'll get there with various upgrades

[shy flame]

active play an es dk or sb to get your stupid kills for your bonus stats, big level time

my sb actually become first char to hit 400 recently just cause I wanted flag kills

[open lava]

wheres the cloud save option again heard its in the place where you choose your char when entering the game but i cant find it

[chilly siren]

it's literally Save & Exit to the menu

[shy flame]

Normally if I've pretty desynced I have to fully exit game

but that's only when you leave things on over night and wake up to your game at 1 fps

[foggy niche]

When cards become passive they get the (p) symbols correct

[shy flame]

yeah

[foggy niche]

Wonderful

[open lava]

all the rest of the rifts till 11 look easy but rift 3 and 4 look annoying asf to deal with 😦

[potent maple]

example

[foggy niche]

Excellent

Well ill just time candy some catching real fast

[green eagle]

Star talent from world 1

[shy flame]

was making a comment in regards to someone display bar skills for CC

[green eagle]

Ah my fault

[potent maple]

yeah i don't want more red die trophies all they do is take up space

[green eagle]

Do you not want to be the Diciest Dynamo??

[shy flame]

gotta prep for new w7 dice boy trophy

[foggy niche]

I'm putting 8/10 on divinity for a while.

[shy flame]

is there a calculator for beastmaster kills per min to incubator time reduced

[open lava]

any reliable way to farm dr defaecus cards

[shy flame]

probably using a vman with maxed out card drop rate talents and cards for best possible odds to get a card. Also prayer

[open lava]

its time to work on archer ive neglected them for too long

[open lava]

aight

no way to respawn defaecus right?

[shy flame]

I'm... not sure? maybe a golden pocketwatch? I can test in like 8 minutes if you want

[open lava]

if you can please do it

say what is gold timewatch anyway

[mellow shadow]

DK or Bubo for Beans statue farm?

People say DK for rare drop rate, but itsn't kill rate much more important?

Like spawnrate I mean

[open lava]

pretty sure dk with choco is the best for anything statue related in all worlds cept w3

[mellow shadow]

hmmm

so slooooow haha

[shy flame]

From wiki

May not be the best use of trophies from weekly battle tho

[true flint]

Dk is better, depending on talent levels, but DR beats the spawn rate because it is crystal farming for statues anyway so respawning normal mobs isn't all that important

[shy flame]

Choc chip matters a lot in statue farming, carrots on ES was more effective for me pre chip

At least if I don't get a crystal spawn from carrot I may get a power statue from its drop table

Oh for W3 statues: ES is definitely more useful, unless you really need to grind out the skill exp statues since the crystal cattle only drops EhExPee statues and the basic feast, runny, beholder

[austere path]

Can anyone guide me how to play idleon on web?

[solid jolt]

does cranium cooking affect sigil progress?

[sharp igloo]

No

[sharp igloo]

Wdym?

[solid jolt]

oof

[sharp igloo]

I wish it did lol

Oh btw @dapper prism I finally figured out why my gmush kills were lower than they should be. I had swapped all my family kruk obols for dice obols so I was down 15% afk gains lol

[kind halo]

Is there an advantage to playing Idleon on web

[upper slate]

wait, how the hell did I get so much money?
it was with my bubo and DK

[gaunt shale]

bubu = federal money printer

[upper slate]

damn I didn't even had choco chip

[slate vector]

Can anyone explain how sampling works with royal sampler? You lose the samples if you are trying to level your characters?

[upper slate]

wait, my bubo had exactly 1 void coin so I don't think it's by killing mobs

[gaunt shale]

you cant unequip the prayer until you removed all samples from your 3D printer, but in long run the xp loss doesnt really matter, if you just got to w3 tho I would keep it off

[slate vector]

I dont even have it unlocked, but I am in w5

[rapid shale]

also its additive xp loss which means nothing :p

[gaunt shale]

yeh, you can even it out by doing like an hour of active bubu and clicking GT bubble a bit

[slate vector]

Thanks

Another Q, with sailing, I feel like I am doing something wrong, I got the first like 3 island artifacts super fast, and now my artifact chance is abysmal

3 islands artifacts

[rapid shale]

welcome to sailing

[gaunt shale]

its just a shit skill, keep lookout for good captains, they are worth it and claiming more is better than claiming higher quality chests, so dont use filter and dont use SB ability if you can check on regular base

[teal lynx]

Good morning everyone 👋
And another big thanks to you Kanna

[gaunt shale]

[slate vector]

I don't even have the ability to filter

[keen elbow]

So do i just keep upgrading the first gene upgrade to get higher pet power?

[gaunt shale]

yeh, i dont even remember where you get it from again, but its garbage anyways, dont use it

[keen elbow]

Also doing 2 min claims on 3 chars while activing ES for vials is fun

[gaunt shale]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

also great help if you are uncertain how to progress certain skill

[teal lynx]

Artifacts are really hard to get. They are supposed to take some time. You can do all the things Kenna said and especially checking sailing every 2-4 hours and giving all your characters Golden Hampters / Omniphau to get more Sailing procs is huge for sailing progress

I believe you are still early W5 so Omniphau will be hard to get for you, but maybe you still got some Golden Hampters

[sharp igloo]

I tested this today with 400T and got 2 minutes from a 1 min 1 sec afk claim.

[teal lynx]

Yeah, but did your forge get filled from the kills?

Mine got 167 bars per 1 minute on equi and 500 per 2 min on gmush

Lustre bar

[crude zephyr]

Any guides for late game worship tower defence? (past 180+?)

[teal lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496
They are in here. Check the pinned messages

[fierce oracle]

this takes so long to go up

[sharp igloo]

Not sure, I Didnt check that

[teal lynx]

You and me both get a 80m+ nugget
I'm at 4355 digs

[teal lynx]

#👀read-me click the peanut

[fierce oracle]

as long i dont get 11M I'm happy

[teal lynx]

I got a safety net with my 53m

Only good nuggets can harm me

[fierce oracle]

but I got all the remaining T6s today

[teal lynx]

But yeah a 55m would be insanely bad

[fierce oracle]

its hard to not click the plants I want to level up by mistake

I want to go until I get a new nugget but its 5:10AM

[teal lynx]

Oh better go to sleep

My highest nug was a 4m one

In 4300 clicks

It could take some hours for you to get a new nug

[fierce oracle]

yea, I'll prob go to sleep soon

just do one more critter claim and then bedge

[shy flame]

With the right connections you can get a new nug tonight for like $20

[lilac bolt]

where is random event now

[sharp igloo]

I just tested with lustre and I got 282 from 2 min at gmush and 284 from 1 min at equinox

[gritty viper]

Hi - I'm in W5, trying to farm for statues currently and I was wondering, what ways can I drastically increase my droprate?

If it'd help, I don't mind linking my idleonefficiency?

[shy flame]

choccy chip cookie

[teal lynx]

Nice. You will be 100% faster than me

[gritty viper]

Thankfully, I got that and I've never been happier haha

[sharp igloo]

How are you getting 500? Arcade forge capacity?

[shy flame]

yeah seeing a bunch of crystal mobs spawn all together and fall together like a bunch of dominoes is better than heroin

[gritty viper]

True, and real. That's my fix right there 😤

[shy flame]

honestly crystal mobs are best statue farm, except for in w3 where the mobs only drop like the ExExPee statue

[teal lynx]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106
Every drop rate source is in here. There is so much to ask you so just look in here. Most important Cards + Obols if you haven't finished them yet

[shy flame]

modifiers are like the non predatory lootbox, gear, uh, the crystallin stamp, luck

[teal lynx]

Are you using Magma barrels and have every gemshop forge?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah

[teal lynx]

83 / 100 in arcade upgrade

[gritty viper]

Thank you! I didn't realise something like that existed 🙂

[teal lynx]

Let me check again that I really got 500 per claim

Maybe it's only 250 and I misremembered since I did several archers at once

So basically half both my values

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay. I have 18/100 in arcade so that might be part of it too lol

[teal lynx]

No it's 501 per claim

[sharp igloo]

Must be arcade then i guess. Ill try it again tho

[teal lynx]

But an ~80% increase from that upgrade?

Dumb question. You got the W5 Achievement? - Have exactly 5m orange slices in your storage chest

[shy flame]

orange slices are for after you fight iron man

[teal lynx]

Assuming your upgrade would be something like 15% at lvl 11 it would make sense for you to miss the Achievement. 80% capacity increase = 80% more Bars, right?

[sharp igloo]

I just tried again and got 283 from 2 min at gmush, but no lmao I dont have that achievement I have 1050m orange slices in my chest though, so I cant even withdraw enough to make there be 5m left lol 😂

[lilac bolt]

if i want to do chow on BB go with nobi god and rest in lab ?

[teal lynx]

That's easy

[tacit tulip]

you takw 5m out and put them in another slot

[sharp igloo]

Oooooh 😅

[fierce oracle]

my arcade bonus is at 21 and I get this, so the achievement should help you out quite a bit

[shy flame]

max oj juice vial or sell orange slices down to 5 mil like you're an immigrant who is living off of fruit sales

[lilac bolt]

Xayayah good ye ?

[teal lynx]

Damn didn't think the Arcade bonus would make that much of a difference. Thanks Endgamers for showing me the way and costing me 20% less candies/2 min claims

[teal lynx]

Yeah all good here. Your account going fine?

[lilac bolt]

idk

[teal lynx]

U definitely want the 2x kills from Lab and everything else is a bonus. Can you reach most of Lab with 6/7 characters yet?

[lilac bolt]

im on this idle skilling before gmush coins

[teal lynx]

Getting the double stamps is not bad. You can look at your kills per hour in the afk screen and see how much difference all those later Nodes make for you - probably not too much. And then you decide from there -> Probably letting most chars in Lab with Goat God is still the way to progress for you

[sharp igloo]

Okay I got the achievement and now I get 396 per min at equinox and 397 per 2 min at gmush.

[teal lynx]

Already saved yourself from 50% more claims

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I wish I knew that the other day when I used like 600 time candies at gmush 😂

Thatll help a ton with bar vials though

[tacit tulip]

We're begging for a better source of forge cap in world 6

[sharp igloo]

Yeah that would be nice

[teal lynx]

100x

[shy flame]

it took me so long to get to the, "does anyone have any orange slices?" bit in Captain America: Civil War that it hasn't been relevant for like 10 minutes

When Ant-Man gets beat up and goes back to normal size from giant mode he says that line, it's not relevant now, I just like Ant-Man

also I thought I was doing better in lab but I'm using 7 chars

[tacit tulip]

yeah those suck even with the extra capacity

[teal lynx]

Goddamn choco chip
Now I actually have to wait 5 min for it to fill up

[wide halo]

I NEED to get 20% lab width somehow 😦

[tacit tulip]

with another choco soon you might as well go slightly over

[shy flame]

you need to afk 9 of your chars in w5 and active one in w4/5

[tacit tulip]

keep working on your diamond plates, there's a fair few lab length meals you'll pick up on the way

[shy flame]

your priority is level 200+ on all characters

[wide halo]

Hopefully soon
I'll get 105 points in bubos tab if I can finally find an alternative to his lad width skill

[shy flame]

even the bubo I made whose only job is to permanently do lab is level like 271

[wide halo]

I need another bubo 😦

[shy flame]

technically I think meta is two ES not two Bubo, I just really didn't want to waste more than one char's time on lab

[teal lynx]

Adeepta your next line width upgrade is 4 meals after Cheese. So it won't take too long

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, I think it was gonna take me like 1000 time candies just for bronze lol. So that extra capacity will save me a lot. Ill definitely boost the arcade thing next time it comes back too

[wide halo]

Thank god

[tacit tulip]

Yup, 2x ES for the double god links is the more important. Doot negates that

[wide halo]

Saving up 1 mil turkey seems like a good idea considering the artifact

[hollow gazelle]

[shy flame]

There's some things I do very optimally but mostly I just play in a way that suites me, so instead of optimal set up I got 2 vmen and 2 bubo

[hollow gazelle]

[tacit tulip]

hope lava gives you an extra character slot when the new classes get added

[teal lynx]

No shame in playing your Way. We also definitely don't do everything right

[hollow gazelle]

[shy flame]

Like I said, it's a set up I like even though I know there are better, more optimal choices

[wide halo]

Time to build up meal speed to prep for the upcoming cars doublers ig

[shy flame]

but also I'm never unlocking divine scarf because doing KK nightmare on two vmen

[teal lynx]

I'm insane and click Colo Tickets daily. Maybe optimal for IdleOn gains, but my wrist takes some beating every single day - same for my sanity

[hollow gazelle]

Just get like 50 bil damage then your good to go

[shy flame]

lol not wrong commander of death

[teal lynx]

1Q damage

[wide halo]

Least I finally made it to rift 3

[shy flame]

I started playing this around the time I stopped playing Summoner's War, which is a horrible gacha game with horrible people, so I at least have a mindset of like, "okay we can achieve certain things today and achieve certain things 6 months from now"

[hollow gazelle]

I need 50bil more damage for last rift

[teal lynx]

We are getting 2 top left doublers over the whole year
And 1 Bottom right doubler

[shy flame]

I've been playing this for like a year and four months and yes, certain things just do take time it seems

[wide halo]

15% cooking speed per power of 10 would give me what when i reach 1 mil ?

[shy flame]

6x15

so 90

[wide halo]

I thought that too but I'm getting 79% at 200k so getting second thoughts now

[shy flame]

apparently power of 10 scaling skills are loga... logarhythm... they're mathy

more gains early less gains later

[teal lynx]

^this
You are getting partial gains even tho you don't have achieved the next pow10

I believe 330k would give you 82% (or 83% depending on rounding)

[wide halo]

11% meal speed might be worth still that's like 2 meal and I've also yet to ancient it

[shy flame]

At a certain point every bonus you can get is worthwhile, but you have a noticeable deficit in class levels, which is why I'm pushing that so hard to be your priority

[wide halo]

I am working on getting the more imp classes 200'd

[teal lynx]

Class levels don't matter too much if you can still upgrade alch/stamps/cooking, they come over time

[keen elbow]

Wait pow of 10 stuffs are logarithmic?

[wide halo]

Oh hey got ur choco

[keen elbow]

Wouldn't that make the thingy that increases pow of 10 kinda useless cuz diminishing returns?

[shy flame]

Their highest level char is 155 and they're in world 10, so I just want them to get more skill points

[keen elbow]

Ye i sure did

[wide halo]

Nice

[shy flame]

yes, "more gains early less gains later"

[keen elbow]

The gains are pog

[keen elbow]

Damn

[shy flame]

but also you eventually hit a point where you want every minor bonus you can get

[keen elbow]

Is it just log x, cuz that plateaus really quickly

[teal lynx]

If they fix their account now they can get easily levels pushing through W5

[keen elbow]

Yeah fair point

[tacit tulip]

It's easiest to treat each digit like a % increase overall.

If you're on 10 digits and go up to 11, that's a 10% increase to the buff you're receiving

[wide halo]

Yea 😄

[prisma drift]

Looks like I’ll have to gamba to finish my chips after all

I thought maybe I could squeeze by on rotation

[teal lynx]

Atleast we are getting 4 choco chips

[keen elbow]

Oh boy that's kinda sad LOL

[prisma drift]

Then I’ll have 9

[keen elbow]

I love RNG rotation

[prisma drift]

Perfect one for each

[shy flame]

I'll take two top left doublers, somehow got 2 sets of doublers already thanks to gem shop rng

[keen elbow]

Where do you see that btw

Other than the spreadsheet

[shy flame]

no choc chip from gem shop but at least I have it now that it's in rotation

[tacit tulip]

not bad given we only have 3 days left this year

[teal lynx]

IT > Account > Lab > Gem + Jewel rotation

[wide halo]

W5's so good cos it's all passive stuff so I can still focus on w1-3 without too much worry

[keen elbow]

Nah adeepta

Come join me

Splice for breeding gainz

[wide halo]

Where

[keen elbow]

💪

2 min claims on 3 chars rn

[wide halo]

I'll focus splicing later once I get like monothic and stuff

[keen elbow]

wormhole for vials, claim 3x, repeat

[shy flame]

tbh I'm literally just activing choco bars on my DK

need w4 statues for onyx, need choc base drop for vials

[teal lynx]

But splicing will help you with getting there

[keen elbow]

^

[wide halo]

Gotta get my stamps to 2k somehow only 1.2k rn

[keen elbow]

Trying to get better pets

[shy flame]

monolithic will take you a surprising amount of time to get

[keen elbow]

Ok yeah that's kinda bad, work on stamps

(Says the guy with 2.7k stamps)

[wide halo]

Well since i will be afking w3 forever at this rate I'll get some genes done

[shy flame]

monolithic mons I've seen so far are w1 and w2

[teal lynx]

With nutto you should be able to unlock slot 5 and basically finish most of the battles in breeding

[wide halo]

Stupid mman still need 14 levels smh

[shy flame]

both near the end of their world (especially rat, at the literal end of w1)

[keen elbow]

Yep i'm tryna get there now

Also doing 20min traps in between a few splice claims

[shy flame]

do you mean breeding battles or arena?

[wide halo]

Arena probs

[teal lynx]

Arena for 5 slot and battles for spices

It was both

[keen elbow]

It's both ye

[shy flame]

I've been struggling on final battle, but arena is like... get sand pot, get nutto, gl kid

[keen elbow]

Do arena to unlock 5th slot for both spices and arena battles

[wide halo]

Still don't have corndog somehow 😦

I unlocked like all the recipes upto cheese cept corndog

[keen elbow]

Wiki tells you the best recipe

I usually just go by fastest time

[wide halo]

I go by higher rate

[keen elbow]

Cuz if there's anything i learned in this game, quantity>quality

[shy flame]

never used wiki, just used first kitchen and brute force

[keen elbow]

Tbf it's the same in most grindy games so

[shy flame]

apparently some people also used second kitchen for new recipes but like, higher spice cost than just using first kitchen for everything

[wide halo]

How i managed to do rift b4 equinox

[keen elbow]

Yeah just use first kitchen

[prisma drift]

I used all 10 kitchens

[keen elbow]

I'm at that point where i need to do spice battles to get more recipes 🧘

[shy flame]

you tried to make new recipes on kitchen 10?

[teal lynx]

I got 3 gem kitchens so I used those 3

[keen elbow]

Wdym, i'm rift 10 and I don't even have the 2nd quinox upgrade unlocked LOL

[shy flame]

Do not pass go

[prisma drift]

Too late

[shy flame]

Go directly to jail

[prisma drift]

Already collected 200

[keen elbow]

I'm too lazy to keep going

[shy flame]

I have 8 gem kitchens :x

[prisma drift]

I have 6

Bought the 6th and my speed didn’t change like at all

[shy flame]

only kitchen 1 for new recipe cause easiest to upgrade

[keen elbow]

Got 4 rn

[shy flame]

when I go to upgrade my kitchens each week the highest level ones will go from like 55 quintillion to 59 quintillion

[teal lynx]

The extra gem kitchens are there to make your town look good

[wide halo]

Cept for rift 3 and 4 rest look oddly easy

[shy flame]

like, more speed, but a small gain reletative to your entire kitchen output

[prisma drift]

One more void level

[shy flame]

scientific notation speed new goal

[prisma drift]

It starts at e24

[shy flame]

I believe in community beautification projects

[prisma drift]

That’s why I always graffiti elementary schools

[shy flame]

adding street art is community beautification ty for your service

[wide halo]

3 days to go and I'll finish 1 equinox dream

[shy flame]

use tradozone to get through dreams faster but with more psychological damage

[keen elbow]

Question, does the bubo talent for width/exp work when he's not connected to lab?

[wide halo]

Like arctis?

[solid jolt]

FINALLY!!

[keen elbow]

Oh cool i can take out my bubo for levelling then

[prisma drift]

Not connected at all

[keen elbow]

Last one to get to 200 for the equinox cloud...

[wide halo]

How 💀

It says like to the right of bubo

[prisma drift]

In the mainframe

[shy flame]

adeepta who are you activing on rn and where

[keen elbow]

In the mainframe yeah

I just didn't know if it worked without having him uploaded

[wide halo]

Dk w3 snakes

[shy flame]

switch to bubo or es and go to last place in w4

you're gonna need that zap zap one day

[wide halo]

Not unlocked..

[solid jolt]

now I got all vials unlocked!!

[shy flame]

wait you said you were in w5 I thought?

[prisma drift]

Now to max them all

[wide halo]

Yea

[shy flame]

so... how do you not have the w4 map that leads you to troll unlocked?

[wide halo]

Finished w4 with dk..

[shy flame]

Oh.

DK on that map or get your es there? idk

[wide halo]

Dk active breezed ne to w5

[wide halo]

Aight

[shy flame]

I think all my chars even tube boi have reached end of w4

[pastel bramble]

getting closer

[shy flame]

I forget what smithing recipe you need zap lightning for but I know you need 333333 zap per item and like, we all have 10 chars

[wide halo]

I need no..
I HAVE to get vman

[wide halo]

Ok

[pastel bramble]

its troll legs

[shy flame]

Mike is correct

troll legs which can become magma legs which can become divine legs, very nice legs, should attempt a career in modelling

[wide halo]

Mid joke

[shy flame]

shush mid account

[wide halo]

Shush mid bread maker

[shy flame]

I'm actually very talented at baking, I just prefer not to bake

[wide halo]

I'm talented at cooking

[shy flame]

yes, so am I

[wide halo]

I just prefer to eat ramen all day

[shy flame]

that's why I prefer to cook over baking, baking is very precise which means it's very repetitive which means it's boring

[wooden dust]

what gear should i have on my dk when pushing w5

[wide halo]

I commit warcrimes by blending pasta and using it as breading

[wide halo]

Just afk with any armour

[shy flame]

The chinese invented that it's called a dumpling

[untold saffron]

like dementia until troll

[shy flame]

tbh I still had amarok armor even killing kattlekruk, the big armor breakpoints are chizoar and then troll/magma/divine

[wide halo]

I still use chopping gear to push w5

[shy flame]

even on your ES who hasn't pushed w4?

[wide halo]

Only ge has chopping gear

Blud doesn't have troll unlocked but still Is my best char

[bright vine]

I never made chiz

Overrated

Amarok to kruk

[shy flame]

I mean, I don't think it's overrated compared to like dementia/uh, whatever is next/troll

[bright vine]

It’s basically the same tier of uselessness

[shy flame]

It has a place as an in between armor set that is by no means great but is useful during progression

Dementia doesn't improve my damage or mastery

[bright vine]

Because you don’t perk it with stones maybe?

[untold saffron]

chiz is incredibly free to get compared to troll

and a big upgrade from dementia

[shy flame]

yeah I don't know what stone gives a helm 15% damage but I'd like to get it

[bright vine]

Why waste resources on chiz tho. If resources are easy to get for chiz, you might as well already go for troll

[shy flame]

troll costs nullo salts

[bright vine]

What does 15% damage do for you at that stage anyway?

[sharp igloo]

Troll is way harder to make than chiz

[bright vine]

And chiz costs purple

[wide halo]

I should really make full dementia/void gear but I'm just so lazy 😔

[shy flame]

kind of a lot

[keen elbow]

Honestly as someone who made 3 chiz sets

They're not worth it LOL

Just stop at dem/void and just skip to troll

Not worth your purple salts to get some damage

[teal lynx]

150 purple and 350 green is nothing compared to 9150 Nullo

[shy flame]

Literally never had an issue keeping purple salts around

[keen elbow]

Idk at my stage when i crafted chiz i had issues making that much purple

More like it took some time to get that much

[shy flame]

By your logic, when you are at the lowest stage and even minor boosts would be useful, you shouldn't invest in a major boost

[untold saffron]

well i guess we can all agree to disagree

[shy flame]

Purple salts basically free especially due to the small amount

[untold saffron]

I'm on the side of chiz being 100% worth it

[shy flame]

4k nullo salts for troll hat a bit harder

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah definitely. Just saying to Tom that Troll costs a lot to "just skip chiz since Troll is easy to make"

[bright vine]

When it’s a waste of resources and time yes.

Purple salts needed for Nullo

Why prolong yourself

[keen elbow]

Yeah, skip chiz not cuz troll is easier, skip chiz cuz getting 15% dmg doesnt really help much

[shy flame]

by the time you've made enough nullo salts to make any troll armor piece you've made enough purp salts to make at least 2 chiz armor sets

[keen elbow]

Between my characters pushing with chiz and void, it didn't really make much diff

[bright vine]

And that is useful how?

1 troll > 10 chiz

You push w5 with 1 character

[shy flame]

Do you not understand how opportunity cost works?

[bright vine]

Rest can just have skilling gear

[teal lynx]

Dementia definitely enough for all of W5. But if you want you could make a set of chiz imo

[bright vine]

Opportunity cost of using purple salts instead of using them for nullo outweighs 2 hours saved on your way to w5

[lilac bolt]

@teal lynx and for post office just follow regular route or no

[shy flame]

how many nullo salts does it cost to make full troll armor?

[keen elbow]

I agree with User here though, 1 set of chiz is tbh fine

Just if you want to speed up pushing w5

[untold saffron]

troll sets with chizoar helms are also an option for a long time

troll helm is silly expensive in comparison

[keen elbow]

It won't slow you down for days to get troll

[teal lynx]

Uhhh good question. I believe DK would benefit more from the Drop box -> More Crystals for more keys to get more PO Boxes in return

[bright vine]

If you want to speed up, spend a little more effort in alchemy

Instead of getting black lenses and salts for chiz

[keen elbow]

...

Bro if you're w5 idt making a single chiz set will hurt your progression

[shy flame]

if... if you're not putting effort into salts... how are you gonna buy troll instead

[lilac bolt]

and maybe if i want now zow* just max civil war on BB ?

[keen elbow]

If you're w5 and making chiz is still hard, go back a couple worlds and work on salt

[shy flame]

it literally costs more of a higher tier salt just for the boots

[bright vine]

Those boots get you kruk boots with DR by the way

[keen elbow]

While someone is asking about PO, what should i do for Bubo? Alch box?

[bright vine]

And upgrade from troll to kruk is nothing

One troll boot > chiz gear

[keen elbow]

Yeah we're not saying don't make troll

[shy flame]

yeah but you literally just said not to waste salts on chiz, which is so much cheaper than a troll boot

[teal lynx]

Probably

[bright vine]

Ye don’t waste on chiz

[keen elbow]

But making 1 set of chiz in w5 won't make getting troll take a month longer

[shy flame]

if a single set if chiz is too much why the hell is troll even an option?

[bright vine]

Because you are making it harder to get troll faster

It’s not hard

[shy flame]

by what, 4 hours?

[keen elbow]

Yeah, 150 salts in w5 should take less than half a day lol

[bright vine]

You just need to read better

[keen elbow]

Cuz you can spend little to get some boost to push w5 slightly faster? Idk

[shy flame]

You need to think better so that you say something worth reading

[keen elbow]

Alright now it's just name calling

[shy flame]

Chiz is 150 purple, 300 uh, whatever is before purple

[teal lynx]

Alch is great > Drop afterwards for more crystals > Maybe mana to get less CD on Cranium Cooking

[keen elbow]

Gotcha

[bright vine]

Ok dude. I’ll leave you with your knowledge.

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/02ee024bc507f8c1236368146e7fd892.png

[bright vine]

Not like you are gonna be efficient anytime soon anyway

[shy flame]

I need you to think very carefully about how many green salts make a purple salt and how many purple salts make a nullo salt and then consider how much of a waste chizoar actually is

[bright vine]

It’s a waste

[shy flame]

No one is saying not to make troll or that trool isn't better, people are just saying that chizoar is a cheap upgrade

[bright vine]

And I’m saying making chiz is in the same tier as making dementia

[shy flame]

if you think it's a waste you should probably work on your refinery levels

[bright vine]

Might as well not, but if you want, go ahead

[untold saffron]

@shy flame I don't think we gonna get through to him, I'd leave it

[shy flame]

I will after another 3 and a half minutes

[untold saffron]

[keen elbow]

y'all just saying the same things but different views lol

[shy flame]

I'm looking at my green progression and null progresion per cycle

[keen elbow]

Dont have to make chiz, its cheap so might as well skip to troll since it doesnt boost by that much

Wont be a totla waste that costs you days to make it

🤷‍♂️

[shy flame]

it boosts by a lot compared to non troll armor honestly

[untold saffron]

the point is there is no "skip" to 4k nullo & 20k starfire

so why not use chizoar helms which is the best part of the set

[keen elbow]

Not a total waste to make, but won't be a super huge increase

[shy flame]

it's also not gonna set you back like a week on troll armor

[keen elbow]

Eh i'd say defense is quite nice early on w5 to actually play active

[bright vine]

Exactly. Play like you want to play. But chiz is not a gear o would ever make because I have another option of not to and be in the similar position.

Probably even better

[keen elbow]

Pretty much

[shy flame]

if you're in the position where you're considering chiz you can't spam out troll

[keen elbow]

?

[shy flame]

it's literally just the best pre troll budget armor

at least for damage

[keen elbow]

Man let's just stop now you're just trying to escalate things

[shy flame]

is there a better armor before troll/magma/divine for fighting?

[untold saffron]

a chizoar helm currently gives me 16 trillion damage, better than no helm

[sharp igloo]

It just depends on the person. If your account needs def or more damage to reach the next MK tier, chiz might be worth it, if you have super high alchemy, then yeah, skip it and use your salts to make nullo.

[keen elbow]

^

[shy flame]

that's like kind of my point

[bright vine]

Amarok can get you to kruk, so ye, doesn’t matter if there is

[keen elbow]

And that's his point too, if you just focus on alchemy you can just skip out chiz

[shy flame]

yeah I know 💀

[bright vine]

If you couldn’t reach kruk without chiz

I would agree with you

But you can get there naked at this point

[shy flame]

His point is that it's a waste because it sets you back from troll armor which is a weirdo take

My point is that if you need an armor upgrade but can't get troll it's fairly cheap and efficient and will at least do enough

Which like, yeah, my entire point isn't that chizoar is necessary but if you're at an odd place where you need an armor upgrade but haven't progressed enough that troll is easily obtainable, then yeah, chizoar is a fairly cheap way to get a good boost

[bright vine]

I realistically want to see an account where armour upgrade is needed and that account hasn’t neglected alchemy

[shy flame]

Chiz is the next set I used on my ES, whose previous, uh, gear, if you can call it that is pictured. I killed kattle, looked at grandma hat and pumpkin token and went, "ah geez": but still had a nullo salt issue when it came to making higher tier armor so he went on chiz for abit because it was cheap, gave a lot of a boost compared to what he was on, and like, it was just fine

[keen elbow]

So let's say if my bubo is like level120

Is it worth to active him thru w4 to push levels

[leaden karma]

in DK does orb kill stay if the cd is shorter than the duration of orb skill?

[keen elbow]

He's the only one left i have to level

Or should i just farm smth else on another character

[shy flame]

I mean, you get alchemy gains and faster leveling from activing, but you'd also level faster activing almost anyone

[keen elbow]

Well, not super true with MK and classes like vman/bm without any respawn

[shy flame]

if you've reached world 5 I'd definitely active because I personally think all your chars should be 200+ in w5

[keen elbow]

Uh that's the thing my bubo isn't, which is why I'm asking

Ignoring CC and all, just trying to level

Cuz CC is still gonna be bad with a 152 max talent level

[shy flame]

it's okay to have a meh cc if you're also achieving another goal, such as actively leveling, while doing it

[teal lynx]

Orb kill resets when the second orb gets placed and when the first orb disappears. So your orb should be level 267 when you have the mana PO Box maxed and anywhere above 300 if you don't have the PO Box leveled (No mana PO Box is better, but more endgame)

[keen elbow]

Yeah i was just wondering if it was better to active compared to AFk

I know bubo has respawn mechanic

Well, guess better to try it out myself

[gaunt shale]

bubu is easiest class to level by far active, I would just do it, should level up pretty quick

[shy flame]

your main goal rn is more levels, think of CC not as your main goal or something to improve on, but as a said benefit to actively leveling your bubo

[keen elbow]

Gotcha

[teal lynx]

Don't forget to put Choco on Bubo + Crystal Cards

[keen elbow]

Another unrelated question, worth to spend days on ES to farm anvil upgrade mats?

Trying to decide between es or bubo doing those things to active

either es farming anvil/vials or bubo levels

[teal lynx]

W1-3 yeah that shouldn't take too long, World 4 mats you might want to do a little later imo

[shy flame]

if it takes days I'd skip it until you can spend like 5 one hour time candies to just get enough mats for multiple people

[keen elbow]

I'm done with w3 yeah

[leaden karma]

so is it better for the cooldown to be slower than the duration of the skill?

[keen elbow]

Gotcha then I'll active bubo

W4 is taking quite some time

Thanks again

[teal lynx]

Yeah, unless you can reach 300+ levels on orb without the mana po box

[shy flame]

tbh I'm activing w4 rn

[bright vine]

You can use vman for that if you don’t mind resampling for a few days

[shy flame]

Need to work on my w4 onyx statues, but also lacking in w4 mat vials, so I'm on choco bars for the statues and to slightly farm mats for vials on the side

[leaden karma]

ok thnx, now i have to reset my skills on dk because the cooldown is faster than the duration

[bright vine]

What’s your orb max level?

[leaden karma]

290

250 on PO box

[sharp igloo]

Wait so should I reset my PO boxes on my DK? How big of a difference does 0 mana box make?

[bright vine]

Oh, you can try for no mana

It may already be worth it

[shy flame]

can you restate your orb duration and orb cooldown?

[bright vine]

To be honest I think it’s 267-300 it’s worth it

As it should be resetting 300+

[leaden karma]

wait, what i need to reset is the PO box?

[bright vine]

Mana box makes your cooldown faster

And orb resets at 267 when you have 400 mana box

And at 300ish when you dont

[shy flame]

give me 45 seconds to see my orb cooldown, I have max mana box

5 more

[bright vine]

This was with 301 orb and no mana box

[shy flame]

so my orb cooldown is 137 seconds

[teal lynx]

At 305 or something it was 10% more statues on beans per hour. That adds up

[shy flame]

If you also have max mana box, then yeah, you're going to lose some efficiency because your orb will reset before it's finished lasting

[keen elbow]

Yeah no thanks

[shy flame]

I also don't think it's a big deal because it's literally 14 seconds

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah, thats a huge boost. I just dont wanna have to re-do the myriad box lmao

[bright vine]

I did that for a week to max my w1-3 material vials and anvil. It’s not that bad. Also makes you better at vman speedrun

[shy flame]

If you were to reset anything, I think talents instead of PO Box and then just bring your orb up to 137 second duration, assuming you also have max mana box

[teal lynx]

Do it like me. Reset your PO Box and immeditally level mana box again

[keen elbow]

Yeah but my vman also has like 12mil max dmg

And a w3 mob sample gets me like 10k/h at best for mid w3

[bright vine]

The MK skill makes that trivial to be honest.

I just hate farming on es to be honest

So it make it better

[sharp igloo]

Thats a good idea lol

[keen elbow]

Also i can't do the normal speedrun to get chiz cuz of how shit my dmg is

[bright vine]

Resetting PO Box gives you more gain from orb

[keen elbow]

Not enough MK with the trick

[bright vine]

So if you have a choice, I would suggest that

[keen elbow]

Normal run i barely get to efaunt

Sooo

[shy flame]

Idk if it's a good idea, but I do think talent rest potions are WAY more common the PO Box resets and obviously CD reduction is beneficial to a lot of skills even if it may harm your orb at high levels

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah true

[tacit tulip]

the only thing I truly dislike about ES is how laggy it is, particularly if you play more than one game 😄

[bright vine]

True

[keen elbow]

ES on my phone is okay, overnight active worst I've had was 2hrs desync

[shy flame]

imagine not farming so hard overnight you get 12 hour desync

[tacit tulip]

if I leave my monitors on overnight Es only generates me about 10 mins lag

[keen elbow]

But usually it's about an hour or so desync

[tacit tulip]

if I turn them off it's 4-5 hours

[bright vine]

I can’t active dk because it crashes and I don’t like active es. So I just afk at this point

[sharp igloo]

I have a few PO resets in my chest, so Ill just use one of those on my DK I guess and sit there and click myriad for an hour

[keen elbow]

Talk about efficiency 😄

[tacit tulip]

Forgot you'd need to do that. Maybe I don't want rift slug now 😄

[bright vine]

A week or two will be done with w3 eclipses:)

[shy flame]

if it works it works, I'm a lot better at like earlier game stuff than late game so if the concensus opinion from idleon gigachads is that's the route, then that's the route

I did actually get like 12 hours of desync this morning :x

I moved my DK to a town like an idiot, restarted gaming

12 hours of nothing progress gj dk

[tacit tulip]

quiet day at work today, time for chem trains

[open lava]

rift 4 😄

[shy flame]

gz only took 6 hours

[open lava]

dont know how my sb did it

i made it by 1 second

[shy flame]

nice work you did

you're gonna go far kid

[raw verge]

can you show screen of endgame lab? how many chars are chilling there?

[teal lynx]

2 Boop Plunders

[tacit tulip]

w3 pins has it - 6 characters for optimal setup

[shy flame]

6 and they're all very good friends and sometimes give each other a lil kiss on the cheek

[raw verge]

ty

[sharp igloo]

You're getting 160k per day?

[teal lynx]

Depends on how many Plunder mobs my SB spawns

[sharp igloo]

I think I got like 39k last time lol

[teal lynx]

I always forget to do that. But the GS needs to be done at some point

I'm only at 890k

[shy flame]

there's starving kids in lousiana who would love to get that bone meel

[patent hatch]

What do you do?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah same lol. I just tried again and used the plunderous flag skill first and got 220k. Didnt realize it made such a huge difference lol

[teal lynx]

Yeah you spawned 1 plunder mob then. If you lucky and spawn 10 that would be ~2.2m for you then

[sharp igloo]

That would be nuts lol

[teal lynx]

I just swap to my Dr Obols and go into the map. No motivation to set everything up perfectly - not like I know the perfect setup

[shy flame]

what I'm hearing is to not sweat my setups

[sharp igloo]

I remember it taking weeks to get 777 for the dw rings lol

[tacit tulip]

Software support with a heavy basis on database analysis and bug busting

[shy flame]

Either I'll get good results or bad results, either way is fine

[tacit tulip]

Most of our customers are on holiday this week so I'm mostly here as a senior member just in case of emergency

[open lava]

eh

[sharp igloo]

Does dr effect bonemeal?

[shy flame]

how many dollars to look at database

[open lava]

you're so 👵

[patent hatch]

Yeah that’s kind of what I thought would be the case can’t think of many jobs still operating

[shy flame]

I can offer 2, but it's a $2 bill, which is getting rarer in the states

[tacit tulip]

Senior as in knowledge rather than age 😄 We're actually one of the younger teams

[open lava]

you're still 30+ 🤢

[shy flame]

old people don't know how computers work so most IT people are at the oldest 43

[open lava]

man we could call you grandpa already

[tacit tulip]

at 44 you retire and become a user

[patent hatch]

Bri’ish tea m’lord

[shy flame]

at 45 you start downloading every addon search bar you see a pop up for on edge

[patent hatch]

And at 50 you download internet explorer again

[teal lynx]

I believe it affects it the same way every normal drop gets affected

[shy flame]

then you beg a 15 year old relative to figure out why your computer is slow

[tacit tulip]

"how did you even find ie it's been discontinued!"

[patent hatch]

They always find a way haha

[open lava]

windows xp

[shy flame]

I found IE by using Ask Jeeves

[rugged token]

could you possibly assist me in finishing snake jar quest?

[teal lynx]

where?

[rugged token]

salty 3

[open lava]

i fucking hate kill x amount of mobs in 5 min quests

[shy flame]

altavista wasn't connecting so I had to go to Jeeves

[patent hatch]

Eventually all the quests become easy

[shy flame]

ES is your friend

[tacit tulip]

imagine, they used to be before the elite classes were added

[sharp igloo]

I could be totally wrong on this but I thought main drops from mobs were only effected by kills per hour/ afk rate, and multikill.

[open lava]

es always focuses portal mobs 😦

[tacit tulip]

...turn it off

[open lava]

i dont wanna imagine seeing soemone try to do that shit with a barb lmao

[shy flame]

yeah when your job is just to kill as may mobs as possible having more mobs even from portal is fine

[tacit tulip]

Barb used to be the best character for it because you could pull all mobs towards you

[full granite]

does green tube activation require connection to mainframe or is bear enough?

[shy flame]

Look I don't want to sound like I'm gonna be in the news tomorrow, but the more mobs around you the more mobs you kill

[tacit tulip]

bear should be enough I believe

[open lava]

they dont count

[full granite]

thank you :)

[shy flame]

they do count? I got through rift 1 using portal mobs

[open lava]

im like 90% sure they dont

[teal lynx]

But the Dr increase from ES portal affects mob drops - I just really don't know if 2x drop rate gives 2x mats

[open lava]

barb was the best now bubos the 2nd worst 😦

[shy flame]

Adeepta, you need to trust me

I'd tell you I'm very smart but I'm honestly a gigantic dumbo

But I do promise the portal kills count towards the 500 limit

[open lava]

theres no way :3

i was just doing one

[shy flame]

again, it's how I got through rift 1

[open lava]

maybe rift 4 is special

[tacit tulip]

even if it didn't count, portal mobs cause normal mobs to respawn. It would still be faster with portal vs without

[shy flame]

maybe you're special

[open lava]

yeah howd you know

[sharp igloo]

Do you get more bonemeal on your ES or SB?

[open lava]

poeple say i belong in a mental facility

[teal lynx]

You don't get portal boops. So SB

[shy flame]

that's not right

[open lava]

bu- orb focusing mobs that dont count

[shy flame]

if the mental facility isn't kept up well it may have lead paint, and you'd eat those paint chips

[open lava]

im not that deranged

lets just say im out of pocket 😄

[shy flame]

trust, portal/orb/slightly flag is your best friend on kill x mobs in y minutes

[open lava]

speed potion better

[teal lynx]

Sorry for Ping. Do you know how exactly Dr affects Mob drops?
Would 20x dr mean 10 base bonemeal x multikill?

[shy flame]

I need you to sit down in front of a mirror and then slap the goofy out of yourself

[tacit tulip]

I believe so but i've never actually put much time into looking at it

[open lava]

😦

[teal lynx]

Alright thanks. That answer atleast helps me with my discussion with Jade

[tacit tulip]

Easiest way to check would be to compare your numbers tomorrow and kill exactly one boop, andf see what you get

[shy flame]

idk about base drops but I know when I do mushrooms on DK, stack up orb before spawning them, I just get a shitload of eggs and ladles

[tacit tulip]

actually gimme a min

[shy flame]

like, DR definitely seems to impact my egg/ladle game, but those aren't base drops

[teal lynx]

@sharp igloo Dr atleast impacts base mats like I said. Now we only need to get all the factors

[teal lynx]

Orb is not direct dr. Orb just rolls the loot table multiple times

[shy flame]

Sorry but you need to sort yourself out and just try ES and stuff

[sharp igloo]

Ill try boops again tomorrow with dr gear and see if I get more.

[shy flame]

ty for the ancient lore, this explains a lot about the drops and is pretty neat

[open lava]

let me listen to some motivation bs

[shy flame]

You are powerful, you are special, you are wonderful, you are beautiful. Also level your characters and trust in orb/wormhole

[tacit tulip]

This is just using my mman as I cba to set things up properly.

15.84x DR should be 7.92x drop rate

15.3k multikill should be 154 drops per drop? 7.92x154 = 1220

numbers about add up

[open lava]

nah thats not motivation thats saucing a person up

ill spit some motivation for you fr

[teal lynx]

Thanks for confirming Sakori - Also nice flex of your 100x class EXP

[shy flame]

a sauce is something you put on pasta

like a ragu or an alfredo or a bolognese

[open lava]

"Go outside what do you see,people on the streets hungry you can help these people,they want food you must crave their hunger so take your ass up from the couch and work,work so you can feed these people so that one day if you desire help and no one's there they will be"

some podcast probably

[open lava]

ill do 2 run one with and one w/o portal

completely hands off afk

[shy flame]

I give you deep, from the heart motivation, and you send me platitudes

[open lava]

lets see which ones better

[shy flame]

btw the key to a good bolognese is constantly mixing the meat as it cooks so it does get cooked through but also stays tender and doesn't bunch up[

[sharp igloo]

What is his GT lol?

[open lava]

piece of shit

[tacit tulip]

20k 😛

[open lava]

k you win

portal kills count

i cant even compare it fml

[shy flame]

I told you this multiple times but you didn't trust me

You also gave no tips on making a nice bolognese

[sharp igloo]

Nice lol.

[open lava]

sometimes i like to write stories about myself if i took another path in life 😦

[teal lynx]

It's not too late to change things in your life

[shy flame]

what's the story of you not doubting me when I'm right look like?

Please no answers with food, I'm beginning to worry that you can't make a bolognese and I deserve better than that

[tacit tulip]

I've had it about a month now and forgot 100x is ridiculous lol 😄

[open lava]

🥹

cringe emoji challenge 😦

[frank hamlet]

[shy flame]

the real challenge is bringing yourself to apologize to me for doubting my info

[frank hamlet]

i like pog

[sacred verge]

i wonder why chat i allways f'ed up when i see your name UserNameBrand

[sharp igloo]

@tacit tulip I could have sworn my Vman had 80x xp at one point, but now he has 50x. Im not sure if im just misremembering the 80x, or if I did something to lower his xp lol. (GT is 10k)

[open lava]

im sorry for doubting you

[open lava]

lmao

[tacit tulip]

30x would be a huge chunk to lose - most all exp sources are additive

[patent hatch]

How much of that is through alchemy as opposed to purchases from lava?

[open lava]

this dumbass doesnt die wth

[tacit tulip]

divide it by like 1.2 I guess? so about 80x?

[shy flame]

someone thought wormhole kills didn't count for rift levels where you have to kill like 500 in 5 minutes and I said they did, it turns out I was right

[patent hatch]

Very nice

Ohhhhhhhh username you are the bread guy!!!! Hahaha I remember now

Nice

[shy flame]

okay I didn't expect you to actually apologise and now I feel bad but like you're okay you're doing okay I don't want you to feel bad for wanting to progress and wanting to learn that's all okay

[sacred verge]

i just came to chat. i did however see some stuff about pasta etc

[sharp igloo]

Yeah thats what I thought too, and I cant think of what would have caused that, but im almost positive he had 80 or 85x when I first got 10k GT

[open lava]

so best classes for killing big healing monster my sb doesnt do enough burst apparently

[shy flame]

I was hungry so I got caught up in bolognese

[patent hatch]

That seems very high for 10k GT in all honesty

[shy flame]

I'm still hungry, but I also was hungry

[teal lynx]

Probably Vman was your lowest char

[rugged token]

almost done

[shy flame]

bread is like flour water salt yeast but it's incredibly complicated to get right, I respect it and all bakers

[sharp igloo]

Oh that was absolutely what it was lol. He was like 300 something, and I just recently actived him at wurms so he could equip the kruk trophy so hes no longer my lowest guy lol

Thanks lol, that was driving me nuts

[tacit tulip]

oh god not had this happen before

[bright vine]

Got for 5 now

[teal lynx]

Bottom middle never did it for me

[tacit tulip]

I went for bottom 4th, failed

[open lava]

another rift complete another rift to be stuck at

i didnt expect this monster to heal this fast 😦

[shy flame]

Let me provide my sage guidance for you

[teal lynx]

We can go through the obvious stuff If it's right before an unlock. Damage Cards + Card Set, Base stat obols, ...

[open lava]

i know alr tbh
i need crit

[open lava]

got those checked off

[shy flame]

Does this mean you don't want to hear what the spirits say

[tacit tulip]

with your newfound love of cooking you'll find your damage starts increasing a bit quicker now I think

[open lava]

just need to one shit this dumbo with a mega crit 🙏
if only i had over 100% crit

[open lava]

sure tell me

[tacit tulip]

As a note, you can only mega crit if you have the talent, even if you're over 100% already.

Just in case you don't have it

[open lava]

i cooked someting other than instant ramen yesterday

[glacial venture]

wow

[shy flame]

The spirits are whispering in my ear... They tell me that I'm.... Okay no I'm not gay wtf Tony

[glacial venture]

but water for tea dont count

[open lava]

does overaccurate crit work in rift

[tacit tulip]

should do

[open lava]

it does >.<

[tacit tulip]

check the talent itself, it'll tell you how much crit it's providing

[open lava]

i got a machine that makes tea for me even tho i prefer coffee 😄

[open lava]

alright let me- ohh wait i dont have it

[shy flame]

Tbh when you joked about being good at cooking but still making ramen I wasn't sure if you meant actual ramen or insta ._.

[tacit tulip]

sec lol

[open lava]

i can make both

[tacit tulip]

yes it works

[gaunt shale]

cooking water is still cooking

[open lava]

i just slide 1 egg into the instant ramen 😄

[shy flame]

Okay that is not the same at all

[pastel bramble]

w3 or w4 collessuem for candies?

[open lava]

man how are you getting 1.1 after having over 2 bil accuracy overflow
does this mean i need to get on that level too

[open lava]

w3

[tacit tulip]

I only put 1 point into the talent

[sacred verge]

w2

[open lava]

oh yeah

[shy flame]

Bruh if you could cook water there'd be folks drinking water and spitting it out like, "bruh this water raw it got germs and shit"

[open lava]

wait so whats the accuracy requirement i rift?

[shy flame]

4

[open lava]

4k?

[teal lynx]

Depend on rift I think

[shy flame]

No, 4. Rift doesn't care about accuracy

[covert mortar]

Is it a Nutri-Matic that delivers a drink that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea?

[open lava]

yea

[gaunt shale]

but you can eat stuff raw ?

you take one ingredient (the instant ramen) combine them with another ingredient (the egg) and cook them both using hot water

thats the very definition of cooking

[open lava]

i make milk tea

[open lava]

man youre perfect for being my follower i can make the stupid statements and you can logicify them

[shy flame]

Eat a cannibal sandwich then get back to me

[tacit tulip]

3 actually

[open lava]

i think i can reach 100% with like 20k accuracy

[shy flame]

Rip wasting stats on having 4 acc instead of 3

[tacit tulip]

Right? Some minmaxer you are

[gaunt shale]

I am german, I eat mett, cannibal sandwich be nothing

[gaunt shale]

[open lava]

[tacit tulip]

take this prayer off

[frigid acorn]

midas?

[pastel bramble]

dont think i have it on

[teal lynx]

Same for Jawbreaker and Big Brain time

[shy flame]

Its a raw ground beef sandwich on bread with onions

[pastel bramble]

but i cant check till wave ends lol

[tacit tulip]

anything with hp then

Skilling nodes despawn over time by having an invisible hp bar. Mobs can't spawn until they do. The HP prayers increase the time it takes to despawn

[gaunt shale]

Mett brötchen is raw pork with onions on bread

[open lava]

hey i know brotchen

[glacial venture]

dont forget salt and pepper

[teal lynx]

We love Mett in this household
(Actually I don't like it too much)

[shy flame]

I mean American bread

[pastel bramble]

spaghetti code

[open lava]

i heard that name from a yt short

[open lava]

isnt german all about bred

[tacit tulip]

Yup, almost everything in the game is coded as a mob.

colo 2 is slow even with no prayers on btw. It just kinda sucks

[teal lynx]

But Mett is not bread

[shy flame]

No german bread, you gotta eat it on our droopy sugar bread

[open lava]

apparently you have a cutting thingamajig in german markets for cutting the bred

[gaunt shale]

no, my lifestyle is bad enough as is, i dont have to eat cake disgused as bread

[pastel bramble]

it was the big brain prayer god damnit

[glacial venture]

wtf is american bread? is it really allowed to be called bread?

[shy flame]

Cannibal sandwich uses American bread

[teal lynx]

I don't think we germans would call american bread a "normal" bread

[shy flame]

No but we over spend on military so people have to accept it sort of

[lyric sequoia]

American bread is legally classified as cake in Ireland

[glacial venture]

tbh...its partly due to zoning runles

[open lava]

do you get mad or disappointed when seeing an american never having the experience of eating real bred

[open lava]

you're irish

[lyric sequoia]

I'm not

[teal lynx]

No. Can't be mad about someone that measures in feet

[sacred verge]

what is american bread? like burger bread?

[open lava]

nah 💀

[lyric sequoia]

It's bread, but made in America

[pastel bramble]

is there any way to blacklist the plat/gold armour pieces from w3 collessuem

[lyric sequoia]

So made with corn starch and sugar

[open lava]

is saying leprachauns live in ireland racist

[sharp igloo]

Wonderbread isnt the only bread we have lol.

[tacit tulip]

only counter is to have all red bags so you can hold everything you need, then you fillthe other slots so you never pick them up

[glacial venture]

i know you have margerine called i cant believe it not butter or so, right?

[shy flame]

Look, I'm not gonna diss American bread, I'm just gonna point out that I am from America, and I can just get bread from the store, but instead I know how to make a variety of breads, and you can take from that info what you will

[sacred verge]

i dont get the insane bread hype the chat has

[pastel bramble]

luckily im almost done candy farming like 300 hours more for my 10k milestone

[lyric sequoia]

The sugar content is what has made it classified as cake in Ireland, given precedant in a lawsuit vs Subway who was trying to contest EU heallth laws

[gaunt shale]

bread is great, thats why

[open lava]

go to germany or france

[sacred verge]

bread is such a bad food source compared to a real meal

[shy flame]

Yes, whipped vegetable oil, horrible food product

[open lava]

like instant ramen

instant ramen is life

[teal lynx]

A good bread has many nutrients

[glacial venture]

why not make it with bread too? like..i cant believe its bread

[lyric sequoia]

American margarine is made in a way that makes it horrible. UK margarine is much different

[shy flame]

all margarine is garbage, literally just use butter

[open lava]

i eat pasta stuffed bread

[glacial venture]

a good bread can be eaten with only butter/margerine or even without anything

[shy flame]

"oh ya know I wanna have a fat but not a FAT fat like a lean fat I just wanna enjoy food with a fat but not too much fat"

literally just use butter and then eat some vegetables

[granite grove]

magarine mostly only seen in street food iirc, or at least not those expensive street food ones

[open lava]

i like fatty doodoo

[shy flame]

given the state of your account I'm not surprised you like doodoo

[lyric sequoia]

Margarine is literally healthier than butter, idk what you're chatting

[granite grove]

well, from my experience at least

some ppl got magarine because butter $$$

[glad crow]

in my family, we use it on pans

[gaunt shale]

but it spreads so nicely, sure butter tastes better, but..

[pastel bramble]

they have different effects in baking alot of chefs will disagree with you strongly 😄

[open lava]

i wanna go to india and eat some butter chichken i heard its a thing everyone should experience

[shy flame]

I'm saying taking a healthier but less tasty fat is dumb

[granite grove]

idk much, its just my observation, not that which is better

[lyric sequoia]

Cooking butter and cooking margarine is allso different to the variants you'd put in a sandwich

[shy flame]

it's like replacing fried chicken with air fried chicken, like, it's healthier yeah, but it's literally not what you actually want

[pastel bramble]

maragine makes denser baked goods, butter makes lighter tastier baked goods. different effects when used to cook etc.

[granite grove]

but the average magarine is okay to me so not like id care much either way

[shy flame]

better to use full fat product and portion control, at least to me.

[shy flame]

using lard or vegetable shortening is pro gamer move

[lyric sequoia]

"portion control" in America? Sounds like an oxymoron

[glad crow]

but chicken is one of the things that an airfrier does best

[gaunt shale]

have you tried airfrying ? actually pretty good for most things

[pastel bramble]

i mean its also about taste not just effects 😄

[lyric sequoia]

Your food portions have to be smalller than most of hte worlld because of the sheer amount of corn starch that is used in everything

[shy flame]

Okay yes you are right, I tend to stick to 4 oz protein portions, plenty of veggies, maybe some bread, corn, potatoes or rice

[open lava]

right?
how can they live off eating 70% less than the whole world and still be doubling the weight scale

[shy flame]

also don't use corn starch at all

[lilac bolt]

if i go for multikill skulls upgrade remove portal skill on ES ?

[shy flame]

Only use corn starch when making chinese food because I don't have potato starch handy

[lyric sequoia]

Corn flour sorry, close enough

[open lava]

chinese food is just ham and noodle

[tacit tulip]

killing portal mobs grants respawn to normal mobs - still better to use portal although they don't count towards DN

[shy flame]

oh corn flour is fine

[lyric sequoia]

Most of the food made in the US has that in it, which inherently makes everything full of sugar

[shy flame]

I'm literally mexican, so uh, yeah, gonna eat corn

[lyric sequoia]

You literalllyl cannot get away from it

[lilac bolt]

and go full dmg cards? + multikill

[shy flame]

we've been eating corn for over a thousand years

[open lava]

me amor espanol 😄

[lyric sequoia]

Yes, and look where it has gotten you

[shy flame]

I was born in America and my spanish is for shit but te amo mija

[open lava]

i learned spanish at grade 6 dont judge me 😦

that was so many years ago lmao

[rugged token]

only 7 more achievements to go until i have to do 1m plunderous kills

[shy flame]

my grandma has been here for 50 years and doesn't know more than like 10 words of English

I have respected her by only knowing like 10 words of Spanish

[rugged token]

also just hit this

[teal lynx]

Glad I could lead you to the path of Victory

[lyric sequoia]

You know that corn flour did the same thing in the US that tree-based paper did in most of hte world right? Propaggandized their way to being the big thing when the alternative was better in every way

[open lava]

following the tradition huh

[open lava]

guide me in the path to rift 11

[teal lynx]

"Alchemy"

[rugged token]

new multi just need a decent nug now and some other gains here and there

[shy flame]

Corn flour and other corn based dishes existed in the Americas for over a thousand years before the Spanish came here

[teal lynx]

Click it. It surely hit's the 4.4%

[lyric sequoia]

I didn't say it wasn't

[rugged token]

haha no thanks put it all into encourage

[open lava]

my 140 es can equip the ruby axe aint that a joke

[gaunt shale]

problem isnt the corn, its that 99% of corn used in america is processed and akin to just sugar at that point

[lyric sequoia]

That only helps to strengthen what I am actually saying

[rugged token]

probably won't be upgrading it at all from here on so i'll just use my daily mail on encourage so that i'm not tempted to try upgrades

[shy flame]

Look, either it was fine in the pre columbian period or you're saying corn ruined the Americas

[shy flame]

100% of corn used by Mexicans is processed

[open lava]

america ruined itself 😦

[lyric sequoia]

It's used as an ingredient in almost everything and surmounts to sugar. If you ever had bread made in another country with wheat you'd be shocked

[glad crow]

btw, what are peoples golden grilled nomwich % on? im at 53,5% and i dont know if that is good or just okay