#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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That's close to how mine looks. Thanks for the reminder. I'll forget about it in a few minutes.
Yup, always happens
I really need to just put a reminder in my phone for these things
and im out of water 
Which bubbles do you all hourly click?
barely anything, cause that would burn me out and ruin the game
How long would I take to kill sacrilegious kattlekruk if I did 23 dmg per hit?
But if, then Bubbles 1, green bubble 3. purple 6+8, yellow 2. No longer do larry since it's already 2.3k+

see you in 10 years?
Welp
i have a few that aren't quite every hour but i check them but all 3 b1s, larry, cc, braintools (not hocus), fmj, sometimes hammer hammer, doing severapurple right now, the afk attack gains one from w2 in purple
Does prowessary not work after 2.0?
but i only do them a few times a day
ok cool thanks
Just realized Iโve completely forgotten about the critter eff star sign when laying traps 
back to cc!
you still should level that bubble though so it doesn't get hit by nblb since it uses toilet logs
which are easy
thats kinda why on my BM i never remove that star sign tbh
ya never touching it again
like check periodically to make sure it's not in range and if so just mash it a few times
Yeah I've been hourly clicking for a while so I'm good for a bit
yet another day i wish i could convert 1h/2h into bigger candies
i use up all my 24/72s as soon as i can
and most of my 12s
but the rest 
Purple 6 is name i guess?
only doing it because i hate scrolling, but since im doing roadkill i just added that too
oh yeah i do that one sometimes too since gold ore is easy
surely it'll be noticable eventually ๐
Fair enough
When I started doing stronk tools I felt the same
also all my bubbles are in atomable, so doing certain clicks arnt as important anymore
and my skill bubbles are all 90% atm afaik
I'll get back to clicking bubbles someday
But full atom setup for fluoride 20 is priority
how much does this have an affect on atom gain?
yeh, i was focusing atoms more too
https://i.imgur.com/TOVXG86.png
Mainly because i was thinking (silly me) that i had a chance at getting last superbit
By not being printing oak/copper every slot you'll get less atoms, but it varies a lot
But my new nuggets prove me wrong every day
Whats your snail at?
23
What are hourly clicks?
Q - with fmj, does having higher def help other than like, your food consumptionโฆalso w6 coming out so thereโs that. Just curious if def helps with anything else
Did an hourly click last hour so the recourses were back at 50m respectively. then at the turn of the hour, all of them were taken back up to 1050 but only gained 1k atoms
Oh, if you didnt have such a fucked nugget luck you'd reach the superbit eventually 
clicking alch bubbles every "hour" when 3d prints get you the resources you need.
which seems way to little
If i am printing 4b toilet paper or 26b oaks, is a big difference
thanks, I dont play actively enough for that but I know it's mentioned a lot and I appreciate getting some clarity on it
225 trillion left
Now take that to even worse logs like w4 stuff etc.
In most cases its just called "hourly clicks" for me it's barely even a daily thing
The main source will come from mman 3d print brrrghhh
when you have a nice chain of clickss
I think I got 10 sample clicks in a row once
i see, Maybe I'm just really behind lol
kinda for memes, kinda because it's there. People did have issues in early w5 getting one shot by wurms crystals but i think with the giant power spikes we've had in w5 it likely won't be an issue
woke up in hospital next day being treated for dopamine overdose
Nobody uses food in w5 over time
What is food?
Ya figured that
food is a world 4 skill that is surprisingly turkey based
XD
unless there's a super op gold food in w6 honestly after the initial stuff is done in w6 i might go back and finish farming full stacks of gold nomwiches from w5 lol
something to do in the future
yeah 
someone plz remind me in a few mins to change vman talent set
6x
gold skull
I'm slacking on food capicity pouches cause I feel annoyed making the random boost food you never use just for pouch
first time letting it stack xD
My highest stack was 30 days, and I broke it today
only takes like 90 days to restack
can go to 3x at max right
Now I can get it back just in time to resample shit in w6 
change vman talent set btw
need a little longer 
since i lost 2nd preset on all alts i had to make vman with the +stats
do you leave ur DK bean farming or are u on BC?
To get these ๐
https://i.imgur.com/QzhOMHG.png
what does British Columbia have to do with idleon
quit BC for now, mainly dk again
juicy statues
deposit all
200 greenstack takes time, dopamine just takes deposit all
seeing people with 209-211 g stacks is nutty
i'm just gonna hold out for the huge hit when i onyx the three new statues in w6 and then deposit all
confirmed to only be 3 new statues?
i got chop/mining to 250+ so they're getting slow anyway
not confirmed
if it follows w4/w5 it's 2 statues related to skills and then one aux stat statue of some kind
like in w4 lol
1 statue but it's %all stats would be pretty sweet
the big 3 we're missing are stats, mk, dr for statues
dr ๐คค
DR would be crazy
yeah dr would be insane
but i think it will be for the new skills
DR would be bad because every time I need advice and ask for it someone would be like, "don't you have 32x drop rate lmao"
plunder mobs!!!
working on plunder mobs/forge progress/whatever rn
well there ya go haha
It does not feel good
just use the gems and buy arcade balls ๐
yeah so plunder is only way
ignore all the effort it took to farm those gems ๐
im doing all my card sets and talent preset, along with clean up on critters and crap, annoying ๐ฆ
or get 2x shiny pet to lvl 6
I need to clean up trapping really bad
oh yeah true forgot about those haha
need more frogs to finish out library
i think I have a level 7 or 8 in fact
but finishing off these 3 atm:
https://i.imgur.com/shhXYD2.png
Yo trickz, go change vman preset
is that in IE or IT
2 distracted, havnt done these presets yet ๐ฆ
10 minutes is more than a few minutes, time to fix your presets
you asked chat to keep you honest so it's time you be honest
yes! on it!
so many to do...
https://i.imgur.com/oEJRGEs.png
In all hjonesty i forgot about shiny pets and have just started to fix it by getting level 5 on all
@dapper prism going back to the totem that gives me most exp per total worship dump, that chart on ie doesnโt take into account the fact that like, the green souls is more clicks per worship dump tho (cuz it takes less charge) ? Only says x amount of exp per click right?
it does, it literally tells you "per charge"
my anecdotal experience has already been deemed questionable but when I was working on raising worship levels for skill mastery the peeps I went for green souls on were significantly worse off than the peeps I went for higher souls on
Idk maybe I am overthinking it
You are
I think for me, personally, green souls is less than half the next soul tier, so to get equal charge I'd have to use more than the next soul tier would need
IE is displaying "This is the XP you get per 1% charge" so if something costs 25% or 250% charge, is irrelevant, you still see the best value per charge on it
Like ok, if green gives 50 exp per click and orange gives 70 exp per right. Green = 100 exp after 2 clicks (50 total charge), orange 70 exp after 60 charge
ok so it takes it into account youโre saying
Idk where you invented "per click" from. It literally doesnt exist on IE.
Just mean per โworshipโ click
man, any of you here remember how bad it was getting to wave 200 in Arena before the autock attacks were introduced
my best max wave is on green souls, 100. It gives significantly less xp than everything except the last soul, which is max wave 53 and I really obviously need to work on
it clearly says "XP PER CHARGE"
that has nothing to do with clicks
if your totem numbers are similar to mine that yeah, green souls are trash
Alright I got it
I need to work on my totems and traps so bad
nearly done with my talents 
I need to do totems. Upgrading traps way easier to keep up with
the time spent fixing your talents will be worth it
well, only doing the wis talent bubble atm, then i gotta do every other talent + ability bar ๐ฆ
fixing them is quick, focusing on doing that is not 
Tricks are you max upgrading the VW talent skill then leveling them up respectively on other accounts, rinse and repeat?
essentially yeh, max vman mainstat stuff, max alts, then reset vman
I'm just gonna guess you're younger than me
Moving your mouse so fast like you still got good reaction times
It's same like tab 1 star talent, then max star talents, then you could technically reset normal talent tree.
yeah cool thats a neat way of getting a ton of points
im tempted to just atom click +talent bubbles for like 2ish days each
make tab 4 easier to max
not a bad idea, world 6 will make it a bit easier with like 50 levels coming quickly too
Trickz are you early to mid twenties?
Finally the spagetti code can be used for something good
ah geez don't tell me you're early 30s or older
I'm 14
that'd also keep them away from nblb for longer, so there's no reason not to do it
Just kidding 
Is there a way to separate your ships in sailing so you can return a certain ship if theyโre all bunched up near home
yes, 30s+
Jesus I let myself go as a gamer
captain page, delete captain first pops up to return ship
i still play lol and some fps if that helps
Quit after 9 years of playing
It doesn't cause you got way better reaction time, I only get by in lol through game sense
sorry, 10 years jesus
I mean, fps in general needs a good reaction time
I don't play fps because my vision is so garbage Red Dead Redemption 2 was unplayable for me ._.
It does feel good outplaying someone in lol because you have enough experience to know what they're gonna try to do before they even realize it, but ah, I'm still old and getting less competitive every year
Neat, just did a 1 hour timed test on my statue farming and I got exactly 10,208 Feasty statues
this like "regular" type mouse movement for doing talents if i remember stuff.
a clear adc player
idk, feels normal to me 
kogmaw and twitch
I couldn't touch my nose that fast if I was doing a field sobreity test
#soon 500k ๐ฆ
https://i.imgur.com/6B8RxhU.png
yuuuuuck >:(
Is there a way to boost those grey gene spirals you get from scrapping pets
there's at least a stamp for that
thers something in the breeding pen to lvl up
oh wait that reduces gene cost
nope
I dont think even better eggs increase them
which is sad
Best, just do some colo 4 on dk for easy eggs and xD
Only thing that improves dead dna gains is faster egg production.
Farming will buff it, wait and see
"spiral plant that boosts DNA gained per pet DESTORYEDDDDDD"
does the doot pet activate all gods even if you dont have them cuz i think im getting bonuses from that is it a bug or is it intentional?
World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9
yea I just gave up most of those that go up to 20+ and those who increase pet odds, so I can not get shinies and make dead dna faster
but like, I wanted to meme max the filler thingy that's 2 question marks
but its expensive af
thx
My levels and costs
I think grey spirals at least scale a bit off of the pet, i.e., trashing a rat gets more spirals than trashing a squirrel, but I haven't specifically tested for that and am probably gonna get red Xs from more experienced players on this comment
^ pretty sure something like that may be true, but no clue, never pay much attention
Similar to XP per pet (i dont pay much attention)
i know theres a sheet for xp stuff
my nothing is still on 40 
oh wow, thats not mine
i was wondering why it was so high
lol IE opened someone elses IE 
So, way worse and lower lol 
Yup
ill candy more bleach tmr 
nah, do it today

just a few more hours
I'm starting my colo tickets now
I want more eff 
sleeeping gives great efficiency because you advance 8 hours without even using a time candy
Gotta work towards those GS anyways 
yea but not sleeping for those 8 hours give you like 1k hours from candy
actually depends on water
it also gives you a headache
how many statues left?
Like 2M left for 2 then Iโm done
what you're gonna do after that?
nope
oh, good luck then
is there a breeding tierlist anyone could send me?
I'm at 12415/17000, so I'll be getting it soon
but I wont bubo
bc I will be BMing
for consecutive days
I'll probably ignore even colos
so i dont have to do math about time needed
is the elemental sorcerer's shared belief stackable like 2 es with lvl 100 would it just give 50% or will it stack to 100%?
Then like 20 2H
the water is gonna be the real issue
does SB's treasure overflow -> upgrading chests skill require me to be on my SB when checking sailing gains?
I think its just set to apply only to the higher level talent
no, but it requires for SB to have the skill leveled when you're checking
okay, awesome thanks
Belated merry Christmas from lava
any recommendations for classical composers to listen to while idleing plunder mobs for the next 10 years
what are the best pets for gathering?
i used to enjoy "2 hour piano study"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVP3fUzQHcg
I may try it, I usually listen to specific pieces from various composers, mainly Chopin, Rachmaninoff, and Liszt
okay it is a very nice piano piece
Down to 10 trillion health
any chance we're still getting an event or anything at all or has lava denied christmas altogether? ๐
Maybe, we've had a lot of late events
that's why I'm asking. it's been that way in the past but I don't know if that's still a thing
^lava
i aint lava
I meant to get that with the gif
like summer break was mid to end august
easter event was end of april to may instead of end of march to april
spring was end of may to june
so things seem to either be late or towards the end often times
I know ^^ I'm just playing with you
I really wish we still get xmas.. would be sad to leave it out tbh
if for nothing but the cards....
giftmas :c
like, i get he is working on w6, but tossing in the last event again wouldnt be much effort, give us something to do as a filler until we get w6 in 3-6 weeks
It's kind of ridiculous that despite the events being basically the same every time, he's so absolutely inconsistent with it
42/50 colo tickets. The misclicks were real -_-
100% wouldnt understand why a dev wouldnt put that on a schedule
I'm at 59/67
screw schedule ^^ you wake up on christmas morning and think: "Hey, my game doesn't have an event yet, I better throw them a bone." and then he either - as you said - gives us the last one because least effort, or changes the npc/quest and that's it. Usually events don't really change more than that anyways. Except if the rewards are too good, of course ^^
but with 2 double, so 10 misclicks already
I'm at 0/0. after clicking 5000 something candies I deserve a day off ^^
its completely fine to have the same seasonal event + rewards without changes tbh
I got 0 doubles today. Do people usually just skip batteries even if it's a ticket?
It's a year apart and more than enough of the playerbase hasn't done it yet or is looking forward to it
not really, bateries are easy
why would I skip batteries? they're literaly the cheapest orders (at least later on)
True but I'm lazy to get them haha
later on you want to focus skilling mats/rare materials (batteries/clams)
I mean, colo 4 gives you quite a lot of them
Fair
I'm too cheap to pay 5m+ mob drops for a single ticket....then I'd rather reroll and use some more pens
Yes, it's not like we're very picky. Every event is better than no event and if it's just a message saying merry christmas and here is a free item, gems or whatever he's ready to give us, then so be it. At least the acknowledgement of a seasonal event would be nice.
forget misclicks....my mouse is broken. it sometimes doesn't hold the button or double clicks. meaning that even without making mistakes, I sometimes just randomly buy the wrong shit...
doing tickets on mouse is insanity
I have like 500m of everything rn. We'll see whether I can make it at least a week before running out ^^
I'm too afraid of what overflow would do to my account
it didnt do shit to mine
most overflow happens quite literally only on mobile
so it gets buggy on mobile
Do you have 10 w4 splicers?
and when you go back to pc its normal
I do not. although farming 2000 batteries if you have leveled the clam vial some, is not bad at all
anyone got a link to the tower defence guide that used to be on the google sheets doc?
Id still save batteries for those first over PO boxes
why would you, its like +5 stats only
probably not a bad idea then since i usually click 100 tickets a day. that would reduce the effort considerably if i could use 2 hands to click
it doesnt even have an extra slot
says i dont have access
then you didnt #๐read-me
what are you talking about?
ahh
you sure it doesn't? I thought it gets +1 slot
nah, w2 to w3 is +1 slot
w3 to w4 is the same
just 5 more stats and some splicing power
but who tf cares about splicing power
I'll only do w4 splicer when we get w5 splicer
yeah....we got no new pets and it's pointless for the old ones
i got myself a few million w1 dna just in case
I thought you were talkin about using batteries for po boxes here
i am. but what are "first over po boxes"?
I might eventually go for some w1 dna just to see if the splicing thingy caps at 100 or whatever
but I can do that with 1 splicer and candy
I actually wanted to try that but the scaling is nuts....when my millions started shriveling I stopped ^^ I would have to use a few thousand hours of small candy to get there....that doesn't sound like worth the effort
Im sayin save them for splicers first, then once you have 10 use them on po boxes. Even 5 mainstat on equipment adds a lot because of the tab 2 talent that multiplies stats from equipment
actually....if you have enough DR, you can just run w4 colo. you should get more batteries back than you hypothetically spent on the 6 tickets. then you can infinitely do that as long as you have pens
Wait wdym by spending batteries on tickets?
Is it possible to print atoms without atom collider. And my produce is not 10M yet.
anything above a 1050m stack will be turned into atoms regardless of if you have atom collider or not
Oh I didnt even realize the po orders gave tickets lol. I dont do much colo
Sorry, know we are talking colo tickets but not understanding the context here
See the2nd img i only have less than 50k produce
then you are way too earlygame to be thinking about atoms
Ys but idleon toolbox is going nutz
wdym
how did you end up joining our conversation then? because that was literally what we talked about ^^
it's not like it will do much if you only print 50k
it wont do anything if you only print 50k
I hadnt seen anything above you saying to use batteries on po boxes, and without context that seemed weird to do if you dont have 10 w4 spllicers
Well my logs with all boost is almost 250k
Didn't get double ticket orders so 2 tickets in 1 order. Was also just asking if people use batteries for the orders or not. My brain has qujte a few thoughts in a row. They kinda blend together lol
1m materials is only 1 atom
focus on your samples first mate
Aha I get you
Havent resampled in like 18days
10M -> 1 atom
literally 0 reason for you to go for atom collider
I know that
you will get 1 atom per week
Let me resample today lets see
i see. yeah, you can pretty much infinitely farm tickets with po, then turn those tickets into candy + whatever else you need depending on the colo. lastly you turn those candies into materials for the po again and the cycle repeats itself with lots of candy and other stuff left
all the worse ^^
candying resources is not really that worth it depending on how high you go on your streak
I can't stop looking at it.....finally no more ugly lvl 12 bar vials!
maybe for 50ish tickets a day its not that bad, but if you start going really high it just doesnt maintains itself
Good to know. Once I got enough pens to max all my PO boxes, I kinda started ignoring it. Didnt think to do colo for candies
but theoretically possible to keep the infinite loop going. you just need to ignore the big monster mats offers. then you can use candy/colo for batteries/clams and print the skilling materials. that's enough to keep you going
then the bottleneck will eventually be pens but sorta yeah
If a new bubble costs 986M and has a 0% chance, am I done?
true but if you're actively playing DK, then you can get so many tickets that you'll grow sick of them
Youre at least done for w6 bubbles. Not sure about w8
not sure what happens after w8 bubbles...
whether it continues or actually stops entirely
the odds might just be too low to see them anymore
No w9 confirmed
yeah, I'm doing 300 tickets a day, but if even if I do every single order (besides zap) and spend all in colo 2 I get really close to be out of pens
so if I skipped the materials my pens would just melt
I might be able to keep it barely running by candying dreadlo on vman
you have to keep in mind that many people don't do this and have thousands of pens sitting somewhere
49k here
At some point you will have way more pens than you could reasonably use
yep, but I mean, my pens go down
so eventually the number reaches 0
unless I do the tickets faster or some colos that are faster
well, to be fair, 300 tickets a day is nuts.
figured it out, I'm on the last one, 1355m is finished
150 colo runs with at least 7h of candy each and that's the bare minimum. that's 1050 hours of candy a day.
Small improvement
on colo 2 I dont have exactly 7h guaranteed
but yeah, my average was around like 1900 to 2000 hours
then you'll still get 7+ because of bigger candy
sometimes I just get 1 and 2 hrs and that's it
I'll check if it changes now that I have no more praying
but missing the FOMO DR keychains hurts everytime I think about it
i can't even run w2 yet....my talent level is too low
yeah w2 is a little worse
due to biggie hours having a slightly worse candy drop table compared to slush and mutated mush
I need so many important companions....the 25 extra talent levels would be great and so would the 1 extra DR, chest use anywhere, and of course doot...
that's a factor but I don't do w2 simply because I can't get 2 runs into one orb uptime....
so might as well do w3 and GS those keys ๐
Oh okay. I swear I used to have some at 0% chance, but I just checked and its .1% at 500m. Either he changed something or I'm just misremembering lol
I was doing some math and going toward chiz keys gstack is insane
like I get 250 a run or so
4 out of 40 mobs left and i will be donewith first quest of Vman.
ik
i got merely 50 something thousand but even that will last me a lifetime
considering that you get a portion back and stuff that's a potential 80k gems sitting right there
This chat sounding a lil sketch
certainly not ^^ I'll get some gems, buy a cardifier and be done with it
This is the way
sooner or later the ruby cardifier will appear outside the special shop and then I'll turn everything even remotely annoying red
doing bosses for gems is painful
mostly due to autoloot being bad
not like you have a choice....I needed weeks to 6* the w5 skilling cards....and I'm merely done with catching
that's one way to look at it ^^ the other is to call nightmare bosses bad
that wouldn't be enough for me to spend my gems on nit
suffering would end way faster
The idle skilling theatre/asylum bosses scaled to difficulty didn't they? I was surprised bosses on here didn't
we were teased with "new bosses that have appropriate rewards" and got dumpster fire bosses with terrible card bonuses that take tens of thousands of keys minum to max without cardifiers
I am unable to clear purgatory due to only having 2QQ dmg
Forgot to equip a importat star sign. Just remembered and it improved more 7k.
the new nightmare boss cards are decent but the old ones are abysmal....
yea nightmare cards from old bosses are mostly bad
ffs doing a ton of talent tree stuff and getting white screened -,-
chiz is good, but its drop is just fucked
My nkruk card is still 2 star lol. Im gonna get him to 3 star, then cardify that shit lol
I'm not sure whether chiz was already out when we got nightmare bosses....it's been too long
I mainly remember the WP from nightmare amarok.....this thing haunted my dreams
I think chiz came out right before nightmare bosses
I'm slowly doing all the skilling cards to Ruby manually, though the last 2 Seasalt cards will probably need a cardifier
Maybe not actually idr
never saw this thing ever before 
isnt released yet
even then...so one is not bad while star talent points were never great to begin with and the WP is straight up terrible. so one bad, one mediocre, and one good. for how difficult they are to acquire that's still entirely out of proportion. moreso because the cards for their easier versions are even better.
What on earth
its been on the wiki for a while
that will certainly be part of a money package.......................
But that just shows/proves who isnt playing legit right there xD
Give me the new ๐ณ pack now
if you want to spend money, you can buy me a doot ^^
I got my doot with the expedition pack gems 
to say i got nothing would be an overstatement on my part
I mean tbf WP was a lot better back when Namarok came out
Still slugless but maybe some day
not the amount we actually got. 3 wp a level when realistically you could only get it to 1 star, maybe 2 star after a few weeks, or if you had a lot of keys banked was not enough. 9 wp was a joke even back then because total damage was still great
I'm still missing all 4 at the top.....and I'd really like to get every single one of them.
Yeah it was shitty for sure, just not QUITE as shitty as it is now lmao
but the same goes for total damage. WP simply had its scaling but total damage had so many sources of it added in most cases that even considerable increases barely make a dent in your dmg anymore
you need an entirely new multiplier to get some decent damage out of it like equinox
or an insane amount of it....but this in turn just makes the other sources that add to it even less impactful
Yeah. Im going for eldritch steak rn and I feel like Im gonna be disappointed with how much it actually raises my damage lol
it's by far the best dmg artifact but it's still lackluster
I haven't made huge damage jumps in ages....until I just eclipsed w1-4
Crazy
oof.....so much dedication
I'm way too lazy for that
getting them is already a chore, not to mention actually using them
i'm fastly approacthing 2000 tickets again
Ive made some pretty huge damage jumps lately since I started atomming QS while maxing equinox scimitar, but now that scimitar is maxed, its slowing way down. Im just hoping eldritch steak will give me at least a somewhat significant boost
nooo not the QS atoms
I know I know, I just wanna damage cap gmush lol
oh yeah...what's the dmg cap?
51x
i completely forgot about it since my dmg simply sucks
I think its at like 20q or somethin
what about other mobs? is it still 51x or is it related to the 20q dmg?
so the more base hp, the less potential multikill?
I have no idea, I only have like 680T damage rn
gimme a 0 of yours and let's meed in the middle
Im at 45x gmush
It goes up really fast. I was at like 1T like less than a month ago
its 51x multikill
which on gmush is reached around 20q dmg ye
people say that about every damage range ^^
my DR for colo 2

Is it reasonable to stop levelling Bob at 5k? Big construction doesn't seem that essential other than for memes
I didn't know about that either, but it's more a MK cap than DMG cap right?
not damage but multikill
I stopped at 2k and I'm almost reaching lvl 1k
I mean specifically while atomming qs everyday, it goes up by more and more each day. You could easily go from 1T to 1Q by the time w6 comes out if you only atommed qs
Whatโs the multikill cap?
51x
And whatโs the damage one requires to hit it on the weakest mob?
not really an option after not plaiying for months... I have too many essential bubbles to upgrade with atoms
somethign 20q it seems
I hit 3k today. 5k just seemed like a nice number to end on, but those 2k levels could make good use in like 1940 big P and all too
Yeah 20q
Why is there a mk cap? Was it intentional or incidental?
No clue, I havent hit it yet, im just repeating what Ive heard
โCause 51x is a weird number to cap atโฆ
Lavas a weird guy
not really, cap at 50 but didnt consider that 0 = 1 so 51?
But there is a zero, so with that logic itโs 52
but that's assuming he wrote 51?
my whole point is that he did "50" but as above ^ if he had an array of 50 it would be 51
Are we talking 50x as in 5000% mk? Cause that's so low...
we are talking about mk tiers
Oh mb that makes more sense.
wonder what damage you'd need for 51x on wurms with max midas/jawbreaker lol
Yeah I have some that I should probably be prioritizing instead too, but fuck it lol, I just wanna make sure I can multikill all the w6 mobs so that I can get mats for all the w6 bubbles fast enough to get them within atom range and then go ham with all the golden stopwatches Ive been saving lol 
Oh, your saying he did an array of hp*2^n or something and just went โx=<50, thatโll be big enough!โ
At least 5.
Probably 9* solar damage lmao
5 what letter though idk
wouldnt that be pretty easy to calculate?
probably, just lazy ๐
just lost 1.5k kills/claim on equinox and idk where it is from
What does max Midas and jawbreaker add?
2k+ hp%
but i feel like if I try to find out it'd take longer than just ignoring it
Base HP * 2^51 i guess ?
Midas gives dr and jaw gives money. Both add hp to mobs so they reduce mk
Times the ~2k% from prayers, yeah.
not sure if ^50 or ^51?
just do result x 20 at the end ig?
Midas makes everything he touches into gold, which is actually a pretty low tier ore not worth that much focus
If gmush needs ~20q to hit max mk, then 2^51 is correct
so (1.5B * 2^51) * 20 lol
its actually more than * 20
what channel is the right one for progression advice that isn't displayed in math
Hit us with the full amount of 0s please
you just have to frame your question the right way ^^
Also itโs +2k% instead of *2k% , so add the original
my bad, what channel is set to math=0 instead of math=1
null

For the idle game that deals predominantly in numbers and multipliers?
look, the only math I do now that I'm a decade past college is like the pythagorean thereom, and I only do that for DND to make sure my target is still within range despite height differences
But what about interest rates, budgeting, and making change?
I am able to avoid that by being poor
Thats already more than we do at my table. If we take too long to calculate range, my dm usually just spawns a random tree in between to remove line of sight 
that sounds lazy, it's not exactly that time consuming to do a^2 + b^2 = c^2
The troll spirit is strong in this one.
it's not a troll spirit I literally do the math when making ranged attacks in dnd
9.305562730054287E25
He'd find another way to mess with us. Fortunately he isnt overly punishing.
wont convert it to understandable bc I'm lazy and sleepy 
As someone who is also almost a decade past college, I dont really do math either lol. All the math you really need to know is that linear bubbles=good to atom quadratic bubbles= great to atom, and bubbles that say 300%= terrible to atom
check the bubble guide to understand type got it
tbh a fair amount of people in my dnd group can get meta gamey, so I try to balance it out by playing as purely as possible
Is that joe rogan lmao?

I'm pretty sure its danny devito but I mean it does look like smol joe rogan
It looks like joe rogan mixed with unmasked darth vader from episode 6 lol
commander of death is typing, should I be concern?
My dnd group just does stupid stuff and I love it 
Yes
my DND group watches too much anime so everyone plays this like hyper serious, dark, gritty character and the DM gives pretty shallow villains
Our DM does smart stuff but we just roll stupidly good and just obliterate the enemies like we killed a young dragon in 3 turns 
lol we got a roll of cool pass once cause I successfully rolled to baleful polymorph a dragon as another person rolled to succeed on an attack roll
Shouldn't have happened but the dragon turned into a fish then took an arrow, ez pz lemon squeezy
Cuz our 2 melees cri 2 times on 3 attacks in one turn its so dumb
my BB randomly lost like 50m+ effy.. which is 1/3 of what i have. and no clue how/where
i did redo my talent sets earlier but they all look fine, essentially all maxed stuff
My SB lost 1mil gmush kills per hour the other day and I still havemt figured out why lol
Lol I play as a wild mage sorcerer so I always do cursed stuff like I duplicated my cursed ring with a demon in it and make a clone of myself 
vman talent preset without mk/tier?
wild mage is just pure anarchy, I usually play wizard because I'm the only one in my group willing to read how spellcasting works
I'm not openly queer enough in this channel to say this without seeming bigoted, but it is 100% because your BB is gay
ok I did it and its 93 septillion
Just checked, but no I still have that one maxed
I think we're not really close to that
I love sorcerer but most of the time I don't hit anything and our melees cuz kill everything like both can attack 3 times a turn with +1 weapons and then there is me who misses his attack 
I tend to approach spellcasting in dnd not as like, doing damage, but rather just tilting the scales in favor of my party
Grease is the best spell in DND because it just makes everyone fall down, and , surprisingly, it is very easy to attack opponents laying down
this was weird.. i cloudsaved and it's fine now
Obols?
Oh weird
funny enough i have tiny bit more effy than i did before talent change
I gave up on support spells cuz it was mostly useless in any situation I use fireball now like a good spellcaster 
wasnt in the 66x before (My ladles a day)
https://i.imgur.com/rtQLY9A.png
I'm so sorry I'm sure you are a nice person worthy of love I hope one day you don't have to be the fireball spam mage
3k huh ๐
Mine did not get fixed lol. I had 15.8mil kills/hour the other week, then I did a bunch of sampling and it went down to 15.0m, then I raised some alchemy and now its at 15.5, but it should be like 16.3 i think
I'm actually known in my group for refusing to use evocation spells
Grease works for so many different situations it's just ridiculous. Trip your enemies? Grease. Dont wanna be grappled? Grease. Eant your opponent to drop his weapon? Grease. Need to slip through a tight space? Grease. That door makes sound and would alert others of our presence? Grease. Your chicken's too dry? Grease.
This is why I play fat mage, so I can abuse grease
yay 3bil build rate ๐ฅณ
https://i.imgur.com/Uw9ZGV1.png
only other level 1 spell worth a damn is magic missile and that's cause it can hit will o wisps
Atleast I will always do damage 
Was 2966 around 12h ago, levels making sucha difference
is it good to do damage when you're damaging your own sense of self worth 
You dont need to do damage to kill enemies. There are more efficient ways.
Wizard job is to enable everyone else to be more successful so they can feel good and so you can feel good knowing its all because of you
Damn my 2nd DK was level 958 about 12h+ ago and now its 963
5 levels seems pretty nice
My 2nd DK con xp/build rate (just so i can track something tomorrow)
https://i.imgur.com/drTncUC.png
Off to bed ig, good night
Is that mostly due to construction mastery? Id been neglecting my shrines in favor of towers, so my total building level is kinda low, but my carpenter is decent and my con level isnt crazy high, but fairly decent, and I only have like 700m
warrior: I wanna go in and clap some cheeks
lame wizard: I cast fireball, to destroy the cheeks
cool wizard: I cast haste, letting the warrior clap cheeks faster
all my construction is on TD towers and i havnt changed it in forever
1978 mastery atm
could be way higher if i didnt only do towers
Is it just your con level making your br so high then? Mine is only like 615, carpenter is like 450ish
Carpenter 608.
Did this comparison this morning:
2921m br 503 Carpenter (DK levels: 893+958 lvls)
2966m br 608 carpenter (^ same)
Levels makes a big difference
and my Bob is 5k now
been atoming it the past weeks, just finished it this morning
I should definetely do some other construction seeing how short some of those are now.
Oh okay, my bob is only 1k, so its probably that. You also have a higher total building level so youre getting more br from con mastery
Also remember carpenter is build speed
so each con lvl helps both faster levels (xp) and br
D: still no equinox bubble accomplished ๐
@rough wasp 6 runs and already got my first, clearly a skill issue
Anyways, off to bed, feel free to dm or tag me in other questions, ill try to remember to reply tomorrow ๐
gnight trickz
Alright night dude

con levels is the only thing that matters for br
building levels and con mastery doesnt really matter at all
Oh okay good to know, thanks. Guess I should probably start raisin bob
Any hints for the tower defence game at the oranges? I keep failing just before level 50 because the enemies glitch forward through my kraken and end up hitting the tower 2-4 times in one pass.
Place a Void Tower. It will disable the abilities of enemies
dang. best way to get kraken card
1.160 skele fish card for 12hr.....96 for kraken ๐ฆ
going for full purple depth wouldn't help?
it does but those cards just suck
Purples bounce forwards when hit, not a glitch. But use a void tower to wipe any special mob abilities
kraken and caulifish might end up getting rubified tbh
do god shards past 100 disapear? ie says I have 579...
caulifish will 100% be cardified even to 4*
no there's a visual bug ingame
but kraken idk
almost done 
the digit just goes forward to the dreadlo one
basically the game can't handle >100 godshard. If you have 100, it'll get shown as 10. 1000 is also shown as 10. 10000? 10.
The numbers are right it just doesn't display correctly
We're not talking about getting it to 5* or not, we're talking about farming or just straight up cardifying it
gotcha thanks
oh
#๐future-content-blog message
we're hoping this is lava fixing money, too
yeah fk kraken xD
that was fast
Would be really nice honestly
what's wrong with money?
i really should begin focusing on upgrading mason jar, huh
anything above 99 godshards is displayed as a 2 digit godshard number. 500 000 godshards? thats 50 godshards visually
use ruck sack for more golden food
already do
yeah
so lava posting another coin sprite is a good indication he's fixing that
not like i have lots but i dont active any much
imagine if the problem persists with the new coin
if he's smart this coin just goes forever
if he's smart there'll be like 3+ new coins and that shouldn't be an issue
e+28 coins
cries in 32-bit mobile
he's not
also I really hope he doesnt resort to E- anything. Would ruin the feeling
alright second to last card in W4 finished by tomorrow morning
soon e+40 coins
its 11am
True
more tier of skill = more cards?
like qty per drop
I've been getting only gold bar during sailing. No normal or treasures. Is this okay?
What's a god shard ๐ค
Kinda in the early games you're just unlucky probs
yeah that's fine. The basic material from an island isn't 100% (don't remember the exact) and the rare drop is only 5% per chest
Well damnit now I have too much loot capacity so every 2-3 days is needed to fill it up
I see. I was able to get 3/4 relics and was wondering why I haven't got any normal treasures
that's pretty fun ๐
what we normally see is that someone needs the rare drop and they don't realise it's different to the basic one
60 hours omniphau procs tomorrow what do y'all think 
I think you have a 1/6 chance to get 60 hours into a skill
I think you're righ
60 hour sailing
Maybe
Would be waste tho maybe I should set my ships to unlock far later islands to maximise the profits?
it isnt a lot
It's a lot for the isle I'm doing rn tbh
u shouldnโt be going to islands that take 2h+
It takes like 132
going to the lower upgrades and upgrading your boats will get u to the point where the next island tskes 2 hours
then dont go for it yet
But it's 2>?
what??
I mean it's like 12 more mins than 2 hours
I'm doing it cos the island mats sells for a lot which helps me upgrade the ships even more
Like 50k for 1.3 pretty good numbers for me rn
theres no right way of playing
You just go about it ๐
just that if it was me i would be too lazy to reallocate my ships
Same haha I have my lower levelled ships doing the first isles to get more stuff
Istg once i actually get evergreen my gaming will be lit
woo getting closer and closer ๐
Is there an optimal strat for grinding out god ranks? is it just gamble? or is it more feasable to click 1% untill you get a 100% chance button
I found out I get 12m a hour at this point so why not
god knows how much i get im level 120+ in all chars now i think
but meh i still got fire spirits to farm for bullets greenstack ๐ญ
I just print those, cant be assed to actually farm them haha
as for this, i think this is the best strategy yeah cause u waste the least
i finally got my bubble into atom range 
i think the god rank cost gets pretty expensive pretty fast too
so ull need alot of returns ๐
I think I'll get it up to rank 3 or 4 and then focus on other things
if only I had even one 
http://puu.sh/JXzuM/a948bc13f7.png oh no....i have no excuses now to not sample....got my rank 1's back
sakori give me more excuses i dont wanna do ittttt 
i hate sampling so much
got doot?
surely you need 66 chopping so that your mages can use the dreadlo axe before you sample 
Darn can't use that as an excuse then
i dont think i could make a dreadlo axe tbh with you

if you have the starfire axe already the dreadlo is trivial
i mean i dont have any excuse why i couldnt as i have 10m all ores...but i just dont think ive refined it
chopping is the easiest to level
i actually havent sampled maple and dandilogs
You only need dreadlo bars for magma armor nothing else

like im so over due for sampling
If you can do dandi you can also get the star sign
i just struggle because outside the main like 4 or 5 skills i dont know what to sample
so like i have a character for all ores, a character for all logs except maple and dandilogs, i havea character for all bugs, a character for most fish
then what do the rest do?
mages for oaks and rest mob mats to keep refinery going. At least thats how i done did it
Mages you want all on logs - any spare warriors on ores. Archers all go bugs and Vman does monster mats via speedrunning

like i dont even know what to do with them
I regret not sampling more things but this is how mine looks
that is my beast master
like idk what to even do with him
oh i guess i can get my full sample list in one picture
i did bugs a few weeks ago...and i did logs like ....a month and a half ago
ores...has been probably 2 months
fish has been.....3+?
like i kept coming up with excuses not to like...i didnt have multi tool stamp which all my characters that had 50 divinity couldnt reach the guy, and my characters that could reach him were obviously never in lab/divinity
Rough 
Just do the sampling trust me its worth the pain 
those samples are nice
yeah with doot there's really no need to delay sampling
it's more of a pain without him
- Use skilling set
- use skilling cards
- Set chips
- Equip food
- Grab any skilling equipment (wings, rings)
- Go sample
is more or less the checklist for dooters
i follow the list
And change star signs
its a bit rough now as i strived to get things like all passive cards, as many star signs infinite as possible
True
i mean mosto f the time i dont need the carry capacity i guess?
For stamps
stamps and overnight grinding mobs
without that starsign doubled I can't afk at rats overnight, for example
for my overnight i just made the largest bag
that 200 hampter grind sucked...
but it is what it is
huh....again i dont even get how you have that much materials possible
stamps mostly
+this and the starsign I mentioned earlier
i guess thats fair
on vman I can get like...12.5mil a stack
can hold over a billion in a full inv ๐
but yeah as mentioned it's primarily for stamps, but comes in handy for w1/2 overnight grinds too
yea i havent overflower with a 556k bag which made a huge difference for me...but by the looks of that your much much farther than i am
My progress purely comes from time rathe than effort. you'll catch me if you put some in ๐
ive put alot of effort in i feel. according to others not so much lol
but i dont think im too bad for playing since like ....the end of august?
yeah see that's pretty good for the time you've played - I started april 2022
I greenstacked 2 new things overnight and not a single clue what
and honestly the time is a lie...cause i havent closed idleon...its just sometimes the game thinks that im playing idle skilling instead...but i always have them both open
Maybe smithing mats or bars?
smithing is all done already, currently doing copper cause I ate it all when doing my PO farm 
it'll have to be a crystal drop while I've been farming rats
found one
Most likely yeah ๐
I'm just doing the quest stuff atm as I know I have to grind them. Once done I'll start looking at specific things I'm missing
not the right game but im happy to be getting closer. http://puu.sh/JXzzw/c7bbb5031d.png
Another good targeter boosted beach docks from 100 a day to now 500 a day ๐
very nice
if you're not already it's worth noting that dia chef is a very good target for the 90% discount
Another 7 fails for new luck bubble ๐ maybe it's time to focus on boosting luck tbh
Yea aiming for dia chef but I keep failing haha I don't want to switch over to a full brew speed setup cos my bubo is pushing w5 rn
I'm in peanut cracker sandwich map
soon
I'm b4 mr massacre big bubble rn
so very glad that I'm done with unlocking new bubbles for a few years
It's a pain tbh wasting all my money on luck ain't helping ๐
My cooking has become tremendously better over these last few days so I can comfortably 0>11 a dish in 1 day ๐
Think I'll unlock corndogs 11 that and then go all in for battery levels
seems like a good plan
Rushing choc chip made me realise how powerful cooking really is
After making all my current food speed think I'll save up 100k turkey? To get a good bonus from the sailing artifact
best part is you've still not seen what cooking is truly capable of yet
There's two other buffs that work similarly to diamond chef
Which are?
Woah
Seems kinda busted
you're not wrong
Jesus
im upgrading my stamps instead of sampling
Stamps really are broken they alone giving me 300% speed
nah it's not 
Early W5 giving 10 times the exp from w4 maps
Making me feel like I'm level 1 in w1 again D:
I didn't see that
How the heck you have 3k meal levels ๐
i don't enough dmg for w5 to give enough exp 
only ~280 kph
What is your dmg?
230k dmg 
sadge squire can't get his passive cuz low acc
Damn
i rushed a lot, i breeze through w4 with all of my candy
Hard to worth with but you can do the first map tbh
I did it with 600k dmg and got like 70 mil exp per hour not much but pretty ok
no regret tho
Time to go back and work on what you've neglected!
yeah doing it now
easiest way to get some silver pens that's not farming crystals? need to max out my crystal chance po box on my dk before choco chip arrives
My molto loggo bubble says 230% chance, but my character skill tab says 300% chance for multi logs. Can i Just stop upgrading molto loggo then?
Some vids says to upgrade it til it says 300% on the bubble
Im at 976m Oak sample, looking for whatever i can to get this last bit
read the description of the bubble
Are you already snapshotting stats? > Entering the Map with All stat gear + Cards (Allstat + Mana + Food Effect)
When is a good idea to get started on all this snapshotting stuff
why 82% hit chance and 100% hit chance doesn't give any difference ?
shouldn't 100% hit chance give more kill tho
your dmg too low
There's a bunch of factors that go into killing mobs in a map, up to a certain point
Working on mman damage is so hard ๐ฆ
Snapshotting is mostly for Sampling (Or Construction obols) and you can do it whenever. It just won't be as good for you now, since you don't have much gear/cards for it
accuracy is one of them, but it sounds like you have enough of other sources (movespeed, attack speed, attacking talents etc) to hit the cap despite your low acc
i think so
Never actually seen that happen before, so good job 
it's different here
probably i've reach the cap at previous map even with not enough acc
Blud is breaking the game or some ๐ญ
Those mobs have more health and the map is bigger, so it'll have a higher cap which you're not reaching
you might not evenbe reaching the cap with 100% there, I'd have thought base kills/hr would be higher at brightsides than suggmas (could be wrong tho)
Where should I do the 130-150 for my 400k dmg maestro ๐
You'll largely be AFK-ing it at this stage. Just check last few maps of W4 and first map of w5, see which gives you more exp/hr afk
u tell me, u are the only one that can see his exp per hour on maps

yeah i haven't reach 1/10 mob hp on brightside, need 6m for it while my dmg only 2m
probably will boost to 2.5k or 2.7k kph with 6m dmg
time u wasted asking that question u would already have checked te best kph map
Chocie map gives more exp than sigmas ๐
But my exp gain dropped by half for some reason over these days
Idk maestro active could be a thing during these stages to speed up
I was largely activing during 100-150 grind anyway but mman's an oddity
With choco chip and a decent crystal rate you could maybe do it actively in w4. But it depends on your damage too
next time try dropping your acc here then someone can play for u also
A lot of things in this game dont always follow The description. I assumed i could stop by logic but some vids said theyre different bonuses

Aight you do it ๐?
Alr maybe activing seekers with choco can be a good method
Oh yeah, reminder that choco chip is tomorrow, right?
Yep ๐
Yeah i am. Food effect snapshoting though? Thought food effect didnt affect Golden food and im already at chop speed max
I'm stoked ๐
http://puu.sh/JXzD5/0cd413a98e.png dangit lava
completely forgot about that
Oh yeah sorry. Mistaken it with snapshotting Health Potions for extra mining samples 
I snapshot mana
i just want to be done with IS q.q
The coin increase for the w5 maps is pretty big..
u can become a lord of time on IS and be done with it D:, manypppl do it
But so are the stamp costs
cuz "yolo gimme trophy"
like im just afraid of getting in trouble somehow...
how
Make sure u check everything. Obols, Starsigns, Lab Chips, Talent levels, God links (Bear + Snake) and see if there is an easy increase
idk.....fear isnt reasonable
=[
Unfortunately Its all there ๐
Then u might need to resample in a week to get 1B Oak
@north wren only problem in IS of becoming a time lord is that u might screw your is acc if u plan on playing for the long run
wow interesting i got insta filtered lol
which is awkward because my joke might get taken out of context and get me in trouble

One thing im missing is IS trophy, it would Take too long
lets see if i can get around it to continue my joke so if it gets searched for by context that maybe i can be proven innocent
Using blunder one ๐ช
teehee 16 in is isn't that long tho
what i originally said in less words than now was me breaking open a certian hexidecimal editing program and manually setting my strength for infinite damage
i reached it with like 1-2 months of shitty play
oh u can do that, but i dont know how it works with steam


