lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[pallid raptor]

What would you say is the best acrade upgrades

[fierce oracle]

yea, I need to do my colos from yesterday and today

but I dont wanna

[teal lynx]

You got time Ducky. Lost my Mousey + Void Bar GS today

[sharp igloo]

Probably dr

[teal lynx]

Dr + Forge Capacity is good from Arcade

[winter yew]

whats the earliest zone to consider doing some bubo farming in? Mine's still got pretty low damage and I want to test an easy zone to see if it can get rollin

[pallid raptor]

i did jellyfish in w4

[sharp igloo]

Soda cans>floms>citringes>wurms

[pallid raptor]

floms=jellyfish

[winter yew]

k thanks. Is it just a waste to try if I'm not basically 1 shotting with clouds?

[pallid raptor]

yes but the w4 ones u should be one shoting

[winter yew]

not yet I'm not lol

[sharp igloo]

If youre not 1 shotting soda cans with poison, then maybe do a w3 map with a lot of spawns.

[tacit tulip]

(moustaches)

[fading plover]

Mustaches in w3

[winter yew]

k ill try it. thanks

[sharp igloo]

Try to get 200 tentacle if you dont have that, and then raise your cc talent and bubble as much as you can too. If you have choco chip use that, and also genie and poop cards with doubler chips if you have those

[rough wasp]

I'll get 198 today

[teal lynx]

194 with Lustre + W4 leafes and Mousey GS
Rest will be Statues and maybe Time Thingies + Frisbee for me

[rough wasp]

then I'll get 200 by EoW prob

[winter yew]

my max stamp is like 137.. not sure how to push it to 200

book*

[sharp igloo]

Tentacle is a tab 3 shaman talent not a stamp

Oh book nvm

[teal lynx]

That are my options for more GS
Bone meal and Minuteglass are slower I believe

[winter yew]

Is it all just from leveling library more or is there another means of pushing that level?

[rough wasp]

Saucy Logfries

[tacit tulip]

library level gets you more books but doesn't do anything for max level

137 is really low, I'd check out the w3 merit shop and the salt lick

160 is possible by world 4

[teal lynx]

I don't wanna farm another 20m small health pots

[rough wasp]

[teal lynx]

10m bonemeal wouldn't be too bad if I hadn't started that yesterday

[signal osprey]

I should start doing my boops every day too

[teal lynx]

150k from one plunder with like the worst cards and obol combination

[rapid shale]

what damage is a bearable amount of damage for vman nkruk

[teal lynx]

20-50B, there is a whole Video in the Pins explaining the Fight. It will still take some minutes with 50B damage

[rapid shale]

thanks didnt know there was a vid

im gonn akeep doing alch for now :p

[noble mesa]

Like all of us

[rapid shale]

just really want divine scarf for sample gains

[rough wasp]

let us early gamers catch up to u Contract

[signal osprey]

I never remember them no matter how many times I say I'll start doing them again lol

[cobalt nymph]

how does this work xD?

[rough wasp]

Nothing. There’s nothing there

[cobalt nymph]

oki ty

[surreal vigil]

Hey guys does anyone have a DK build for colloseum w4? I was using my level 225 ES to do it but have been told DK is better for Colloseum even though hes only level 135

[slender sandal]

orb as high as possible since orb count = higher drop rate and such

tldr drop orb at the start, kill all waves

when you're higher level you can do 2 or 3 colo 4s under 1 orb

[surreal vigil]

think my 135 DK will yield better loot than a 225 ES?

[slender sandal]

levels in statue and the wave on auto attack are nice so you can basically just cleave the screen and have your statue hit the other side

get some more levels on the dk but if not now then very soon yes

equip dr stuff too

[surreal vigil]

Nice one, card build? money and drop rate?

[slender sandal]

colo 4 is super basic, one flat area

all dr

[teal lynx]

@tall horizon

[tall horizon]

?mute 1186285486772338698 scam

[verbal canyon]

anthony_flinch was muted. | scam

[rough wasp]

[noble mesa]

Thete was quickk

[tall horizon]

tyvm

[rough wasp]

I’m so unmotivated to do my Colo tickets

[slender sandal]

i just inted a bunch into colo 4 yesterday

people that do colo 2 are stronger than me

[rough wasp]

I’ll do it after my walk

[rough wasp]

Join us and do Colo 2

[slender sandal]

i did 10 runs one day and i was about ready to do a flip off my balcony

[hidden quail]

I kinda neglected colos what is the real benefit of the running them? The loot at the end always seemed kinda shitty

[rough wasp]

Time candies are the benefit

[hidden quail]

Do time candies drop from chests?

[runic token]

I want to fix my nblb, been letting it do its own thing with no clear direction. Any tips on getting started or an end goal to head towards?

[rough wasp]

Drops from the mini bosses

[hidden quail]

Ooooooo

That makes sense

I collect the tickets just never really run lol

[vestal copper]

Yo I just came back from a long break and unlocked my 10th character, which one should I go for? I got 1BloodB 1SiegeB 1BubonicC 1Squire 1BeastM 1Maestro 1ES 1DK and 1Wizard rn

[patent hatch]

get another ES

[vestal copper]

Was planning on doing so on my 9th character

Or was you sarcastic lol

[slender sandal]

most people do 3 of each main type (warrior/archer/mage) and 1 vman

[teal lynx]

Short answer you probably want 2 ES, 2 SB and 2 DK

[slender sandal]

usually 2 dks, 2 es, 2 sb

[vestal copper]

Tyvm

sb is siegebreaker right

love

[paper sail]

The goal to work toward is for anything you can easily print in 4-6 hours to not be on the list. That'll be basic sampling material, logs, ores, fish, bugs.

Another way to say that is you want NBLB to hit the bubbles that are tough to collect materials for: Monster drops, anvil materials, salts, souls, critters, spices, sailing

[winged hedge]

Folks, i have lv 4 snail upgrade protection in my Atom Collider (protects my gaming snail to lv up to lv 20)
but i am consistently failing upgrades and it keeps reseting to lv 15.
Is the atom protection upgrade bugged? i am missing something? 😦

[patent hatch]

You need to hit level 20 first

[paper sail]

You can't fail upwards. You'll only reset to the last 5 you reached

Resetting on 15, 16, 17, 18, or 19 will reset to 15. Once you reach 20 for the first time, you won't go below that again.

[winged hedge]

oh wow ok. I thought it would protect me during the progression to the lv 20 as well. I guess i got lucky until lv 15 😅 thanks folks!

[mortal stratus]

Hey

Can you give me some guides

To upgrade construction speed

[teal lynx]

Try to build one of those Layouts - Best to do the left setup with 2 DKs and get as much construction XP as you can

Greenstack Number 194
No 1 or 2 min claims for a while

[rough wasp]

I knew you could do it

[signal osprey]

Starfire bars

[teal lynx]

I'm gonna do a little more Void Bars so it doesn't get taken by Void Salts

But yeah. Slowly gonna build up Starfire with Candy

[tough tusk]

tell me your magic

[teal lynx]

That Talent on your Archer counts multikill while claiming afk gains - You need like 20k kills to fill your whole forge for the early bars . So you either use your 1 and 2 hour candies on your Archer or you cycle through your three Archers every 2 minutes (alternatively 1 minute on the Equinox Ram)

[slim pasture]

What thing do green stack bonus?

[tough tusk]

why every 2 min?

[teal lynx]

Damage. I think 3.5% per greenstack and then there is a Equinox dream that needs 200 Greenstacks

[teal lynx]

You only gain afk gains if you are afk for atleast 2 minutes

[slim pasture]

What is the equinox that a lot of you guys talk about? I'm in the beggining of w5

[teal lynx]

Kill some bloodbones in W3 and get yourself a mirror asap

[snow light]

i am dreading greenstacking any bars most of my smelting is currently caught up in copper and silver bars trying to get that 1b for the vials

[fading plover]

the skill will only process the amount of ore in the furnace at the time of afk collection so usually 2 mins is enough to empty the ore and then after you claim the gains it refills the furnace automatically

[tough tusk]

does it mean that if spend 20 min afk and spend 2min the amoun of bars i will gain from it will stay the same?

[teal lynx]

Depends on the bars and your amount of kills you get in 2 minutes. But for the early bars you will most likely cap out doing 2 min claims on Gmush

[grand path]

heeyyy so i kinda fucked up by picking a second bb instead of dk, do i just have to wait until lava drops a new class change token?

[tough tusk]

in that case what is harder working on the early bars vials or on greenstacking the later ones?

[snow light]

just focus on cooking for now with that second BB i guess

[mystic jasper]

Hi guys, to get 15 chemical plants sitting in my gaming garden, do I just "never collect"? I feel like they never mutate?

[tough tusk]

what is their current evo?

[fierce oracle]

later ones as the same amount of ores generates less bars

[mystic jasper]

I am at LV 282, which is like 20.2%

[fierce oracle]

vials are only copper and iron, which have a pretty good ore > bar ratio

[tough tusk]

not lvlm evolution!

[mystic jasper]

Yes the evolution level/ chance is about 20%

[teal lynx]

They wanna know what Evolution. 1,2,3,4,5,6?

[rough wasp]

I needa refarm a set of troll obols thubie

[tough tusk]

but i guess you wait for it get to evo 6?

[teal lynx]

Do your Colos Ducky!

[grizzled solstice]

best divinity gods for my characters ?

[tough tusk]

doot

[grizzled solstice]

true

[rough wasp]

I’m still on my walk

[mystic jasper]

Oh sorry, it says Your plant can Evo up to 6 times?

Sorry I don't know how to check the Evo?

[teal lynx]

We need way more Information. It varies on what part of the game you are
It might be 9 Goats. 7 Omnis, 4 Arctis + 6 Harriep and whatever else it could be

[fierce oracle]

I just dont care enough for that lol

but I also should do it

[rough wasp]

Snapshot

[fierce oracle]

ik

[rough wasp]

And shimmer 🤢

[tough tusk]

go to the log book in the upper right corner

[teal lynx]

How do they look?

[fierce oracle]

maybe obols are ok for snapshotting, but everything besides that is just too much work

[rough wasp]

Ugly

[teal lynx]

20 colo for motivation

[rough wasp]

I’m gonna start candying resource cards

[mystic jasper]

Oh I only got 5 then

[teal lynx]

I also needa do this

[heavy moth]

saw the dead line for W6, guess everyone ot 500 and 200 gs is doable

[slim pasture]

This MANTRA works? chosen it but the other character are still getting the same XP

[teal lynx]

I'm not even sure what Agamx wanted with that information

[pine yacht]

wait... you're USING your candy...? Heresy.

[tough tusk]

then do you have you have the other plants already at 6 evo?

[fierce oracle]

the only ones I still need that actually would affect chopping are alien and maple

[rough wasp]

I always use my candy

[teal lynx]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[tough tusk]

i am not sure myself anymore

[fierce oracle]

which both are fucking annoying

[rough wasp]

I was candying aliens for xp+cards, but holy fuck those card rates…

[mystic jasper]

Everything is only 5

[pine yacht]

BE GONE DEAMON!

[teal lynx]

Ducky

[fierce oracle]

ye, I candied it up to 4 stars and thats it

[rough wasp]

ur worse than me

[teal lynx]

That's one of two that are 1 star. 95% are 4 Star

[rough wasp]

Slacker!

[pine yacht]

I wanna candy dungeon cards

[mystic jasper]

I haven't unlocked the 6th evo super bit yet (300M red)

[fierce oracle]

my fish cards are pretty good

[teal lynx]

Bet none of you have better Dungeon Cards - that's a lie

[fierce oracle]

the caulifish one was cardified to 4

[pine yacht]

eh... close enough

[rough wasp]

I just pretend they don’t exist

[pine yacht]

w2 and w3 just hate me ig

[slender sandal]

you actually have all the dungeon cards so you beat me

[rough wasp]

Me and thubie got our priorities straight

[teal lynx]

You are not at 229 Achievements. You are losing 2x bit gain

Loser

[rough wasp]

I should do my achievements

But I won’t

[teal lynx]

I should go to bed
So good night you guys. Enjoy the last Hours/Days of Christmas

[mystic jasper]

My confusion is, we need mutations to get chemicals right? How is Evo related to that? If I get one more Evo chance, will it increase the possibility of being a chemical?

[heavy moth]

depend on what dungeon XD can clearly see which one i hate

[mystic jasper]

So it means I should collect whatever is not chemical then?

[teal lynx]

Mutatíons has nothing to do with getting chems. Just collect plants and hope for Chem

Mutation is the chance for a plant to increase a Tier (1-7) each cycle (your time in Fertilizer Upgrades)

[tough tusk]

isnt there 8 evo?

[teal lynx]

The base counts as Evo 1

[cerulean hemlock]

How's everyone's Christmas atm?

[teal lynx]

Pretty good, but as mentioned earlier I gotta go to Bed AAAAAAAA
Hope you had a great one

[cerulean hemlock]

Mine was extraodinarily enjoyable

[tough tusk]

how so the log book says there are 72 evo plants that means since we have 9 plants that there are 8 evo

[cerulean hemlock]

Oh, srsly? Gn!

[cerulean hemlock]

To be added ig

[lapis mesa]

Scolis bot done gone silly

[cerulean hemlock]

Sad

[lapis mesa]

Interesting

[cerulean hemlock]

Well uhhh.

[tribal sundial]

Last stamp in trash island, if I recall correctly

[cerulean hemlock]

IE's been choking ig

[cerulean hemlock]

yep, 200 trash

Man, this is still sad

[surreal vigil]

Just unlocked Rabbit :). all 10 characters are on bear at moment, shall i swap my ES to Rabbit still?

[tough tusk]

do you need all char in lab to active full (needed) nods

[surreal vigil]

This is what it'll look like with both ES on Rabbit

even with the 2 ES, i still can't reach that top right node

[fading plover]

You don't want that one

[surreal vigil]

Yeah, unlocked w5 pretty quickly after w4 unlocked, so was advised to move all them to divinity and try get 5th god (i think) asap.

[fading plover]

It lowers liquid Regen and increases liquid cap, not something you want at your point

[surreal vigil]

Ahh so goharut gives you the lab exp as well?

[tough tusk]

cant remember if the goat is before or after the rabbit but if you have goat then i think using goat on your characters will be better since that way you are able to also upgrade your lab lvl and then to connect to more things of course you should save one char away to play active with him (bobu should be your choice for alchemy)

[surreal vigil]

Just seen Goat is after Rabbit 🙂 will get him asap then

Awesome, thank you. Quick one, is this 6x

[gentle furnace]

6x is purple spiral

Yellow star is 3x

[cerulean hemlock]

First giant on this account! 😄

[autumn knot]

how jealous are you all of this perfect specimen

[tough tusk]

ahh seen him in blue already

[slim pasture]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[slim pasture]

If i need to first claim in the mantra character to get the exp to the others, the firsts characters wont get any bonus xp from the other mantras?

[cerulean hemlock]

Hmm.. too much.

[vagrant mountain]

it doesn't matter what order, all your characters will get mantra exp

[cerulean hemlock]

If I were you, I'd get all gods but Badgur first, if you can manage it!

[slim pasture]

It's not good to use mantra? Got in 1 character right now

[cerulean hemlock]

Not early game!

[slim pasture]

Stay with chakra then?

[cerulean hemlock]

Definitely!

[cerulean hemlock]

You'll want 3 characters in there, if you can manage it.

Why? Get articus (bear)

then chuck them in divnity

When you get goat, chuck them in lab

I mention it in my guide, if I recall!

[slim pasture]

I'm unlocking a rabbit now

[slim pasture]

What guide?

[cerulean hemlock]

#1183482341474172938

[wild python]

huh..

[cerulean hemlock]

Best hat ingame

[wild python]

-1 upgrade slots left

[slim pasture]

I have this open, don't say nothing (that i can find) about what style to chose. But thanks for the tips an the guide

[cerulean hemlock]

[mighty rover]

W5 unlocked

[wild python]

congrats now suffer

[cerulean hemlock]

try reading the guide above! 😄

[rough wasp]

it is colo time @fierce oracle

[fading oracle]

Do i really have to wait for weekly reset to change my Divinity Links or is there something im missing?

[true obsidian]

wow, first time seeing this cog

[swift rose]

yes

[fierce oracle]

I'm still doing tickets

[swift rose]

non-dooted players probably have a guide for it

[fierce oracle]

if I focus I might be done in 1.5h or something

[rough wasp]

Sara is a bean.

[rough wasp]

do it

[fierce oracle]

no ducky

dont eat sara

stop

[rough wasp]

[cerulean hemlock]

And what are you?

[cerulean hemlock]

oh you want to be devoured?

[twin hare]

You get 2 resets per week

Nevermind, i want out of this chat, too much vore

[rough wasp]

Also thubie dont look at the caulifish

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't see it! Where's the caulifish?

[fierce oracle]

lol I only have mine on 4 cuz it got to 3 when I was candying level 100 on everyone

to see if skill mastery has effect on breeding exp

[cerulean hemlock]

What's Caulifish's buff again?

Fishing speed %?

[rough wasp]

Fishing speed

[cerulean hemlock]

Ayyy nailed it!

[fierce oracle]

yea 7% per level

[rough wasp]

I got more 24h than 12h so far

[swift rose]

fixed it for you 🙂

[wide bolt]

some tips how i can increase my money drop rate?

[swift rose]

gmush

5 star your cards

[wide bolt]

true

[mighty rover]

World 5 in just over a month of game play

[swift rose]

same

[cerulean hemlock]

👍 With or without $?

[rough wasp]

oh

[mighty rover]

With buuuut I don't mind the packs i came from a game that 100 dollar pack unlocks an eighth of a ship you wanted

Or a 16th of a research you needed done

[wide bolt]

whats the best prayers to equip ?

[slender sandal]

situational question

but generally you always equip royal sampler until you can get 90% sample without it (late game), most use dimwit for the skill eff, zerg when you're afking, etc

midas when you can handle the large hp increases since it's a big drop rate bonus at max

[cerulean hemlock]

But note, W2 colo, don't equip Midas!

[rough wasp]

@fierce oracle lame

[fierce oracle]

do more

I'm still at 125 tickets

I did not focus at all lol

[tough tusk]

how many tickets did you use?

[vestal lotus]

best class to active farm cards?

[rigid cedar]

Where’s the best place to farm money with bubo with these stats? I only have up to the first lvl of W5 unlocked

[cerulean hemlock]

Lame, not enough kebabs

[cerulean hemlock]

Suggma should be fine

[rough wasp]

54, u can see by the 1/2 hr candies

[fierce oracle]

ES for every card besides dig doug/xylobones

[rough wasp]

We have started candying a bit thubie

[vestal lotus]

ty thubie

:3

[fierce oracle]

I'm at 186k birch cards

[rough wasp]

I should prob candy most of my resource cards befoire doing wis huh

[fierce oracle]

yea

most of them are pretty easy

[rough wasp]

Yeah

[fierce oracle]

and you can ignore shit like speed

[rough wasp]

I'm card DR snapshotting

[fierce oracle]

as you're already at cap

[cerulean hemlock]

You use the star talent?

[fierce oracle]

or should be at least

[rough wasp]

debating if i should just do it all on my vman

prob faster

[fierce oracle]

i did mine on vman i think

[cerulean hemlock]

Wdym by snap shotting?

[tough tusk]

then how much will this give me?

[cerulean hemlock]

How do you temp. increase the buffs?

[rough wasp]

idk bro alot of candies

im not gonna math out that shit

[cerulean hemlock]

Well... first, you need to spend a few hours of your life

Are you willing?

[rough wasp]

also idk ur DR

[tough tusk]

no thats why its 4 digits

[tough tusk]

16 if i push

[fierce oracle]

i can say for sure that it'll give you a lot of pain

about candy im not sure

[rough wasp]

16 is pretty low DR for colo farming

[patent hatch]

+1 slab woot

[tough tusk]

well i am not really having the power to do it thats why my td is so shit currently

[cerulean hemlock]

Now get the ring! 😄

[patent hatch]

done and done :)

[cerulean hemlock]

TD?
What's your BM's class level atm?

[tough tusk]

379

[tough tusk]

yes TD

[cerulean hemlock]

You should max slow roast if you haven't

You complete the equinox rq for cloud #21ish yet?

[tough tusk]

of course

[cerulean hemlock]

Hmm

[tough tusk]

the last time i did a td was the tree nutto and i get it to 131 and that was about 3 months ago

[cerulean hemlock]

Time to change that

[tough tusk]

but it takes so much time

[cerulean hemlock]

😛 Then ignore it 😏

Best way to beat TD

[tough tusk]

yes sir

[paper sail]

Continue ignoring it

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-boy-kono-subarashii-sekai-ni-shukufuku-wo-konosuba-kazuma-sato-gif-17221576

[patent hatch]

hey thats the same as me :D

[tough tusk]

whats that? a void photo?

[cerulean hemlock]

Hey, I have that.... just remove the 0's

[vernal grove]

Are the styles for Divinity unlocked on a per character basis or are they like the gods where they unlock account wide?

[tough tusk]

per char lvl

[warm pond]

Where do the extra bonus come from? Gaming?

[tough tusk]

yes its the superbits part

[warm pond]

Aah ok

Yea not very far in super bits

[rough wasp]

ok

[tough tusk]

just remembered that achievements are actually helpful

[lapis mesa]

never thought this day would come

[rough wasp]

[fierce oracle]

😮

I should also do it, its not really hard

[lapis mesa]

and as a bonus.. that made Vial 27!!!!

[fierce oracle]

but idk, laziness takes the best of me

[rough wasp]

look at this bum ass card

[fierce oracle]

btw im still at 152 tickets

[fierce oracle]

[rough wasp]

wow my kraken card rates are shit

[fierce oracle]

need to get mine to 5* eventually

but its only 3% afk gains

[rough wasp]

yea its gonna cost too many candies

[fierce oracle]

also who cares about fishing

[rough wasp]

im just tryna hit up some easy ones for the equinox

[sacred nexus]

Does the elegant seashell have a max lvl?

[fierce oracle]

I still havent done the 100 ruby for equinox but just cuz it wouldnt benefit me

as I dont plan on doing 200 gstacks soon

[rough wasp]

im right there so

[fierce oracle]

im at 161

[rough wasp]

oh nice close on it too

[fierce oracle]

probably could reach like 180 or something today or so

[paper sail]

34567

[tough tusk]

how long did it take?

[heavy moth]

only 2 left 😮

[rough wasp]

end of week ill be done

[heavy moth]

you won the race, gotta hand that to you got around 2 more weeks of beans i think for the 200

[hollow gazelle]

[patent hatch]

xd

[hollow gazelle]

guess I can't talk here anymore

[patent hatch]

back to w1/2 chat you go mate

[rough wasp]

~4 more days?

[heavy moth]

only that 😮 i dont think i do 2 mil per 4 days ahha

[rough wasp]

Prob longer i dont know the actual numbers

[heavy moth]

is that one 199 or 200 ?

[rough wasp]

both are around the same

both statues*

so itll hit 199/200 around same time

[heavy moth]

niceee

[tough tusk]

i think i made an oppsie i dont find my better mining food

[rough wasp]

we almost there Scoli

[cerulean hemlock]

Larry will bring it to 1602

[stiff kayak]

whats does it mean by stamps? anybody can help?

[paper sail]

It means scroll down to W1, find the section about stamps, and address any lines with a tier of 4 or less

[chrome tiger]

not bad

[stiff kayak]

thx

[lapis mesa]

had so many stored up from waiting on the snake vial i doubled to this 😄

[tough tusk]

what is that? wasnt it just a legend that such a being can exist?

[lapis mesa]

which means now i have to resample 😦

[vagrant mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741696802666840167/1184721103172673546/image0.gif?ex=658d0082&is=657a8b82&hm=76b121b1fc70c0adc8e0c218507a0bfb49d19cf157271189f3cef5cf39afbec9&

[chrome tiger]

once every two years you see one

[tough tusk]

in blue moon no less

[lapis mesa]

eh, slight improvement

[sacred nexus]

Anyone know if seashell has a max lvl?

[lapis mesa]

dont think so

[reef comet]

Anyone else have issues with the giant purple and kraken towers on wave 30 of the W5 TD? It's dmging my td hp multiple times without resetting, or even going to the next platform...

[paper sail]

Standard issue, yes

Gotta void them to get rid of purple, kick/root as needed

[reef comet]

Well crap, I don't have void tower yet

[paper sail]

Hope you can kick/root effectively A single purple can end your whole run

[shy basin]

I just unlocked the shovel in gaming, is this number a bits multiplier or is there some other thing it means?

[paper sail]

It is a bit multiplier, yes

[reef comet]

Welp, guess I'll have to see if my BM even has charge, thank you

[keen elbow]

How much dmg does void radius do? It doesn't have a dmg% like other skills do

[quartz oriole]

how do i get those cabbage-looking items in sailing

[keen elbow]

Should be first island

Each island has treasure

Idr which island that is exactly but yeah if you keep sending ships to the island you'll get those treasures

[quartz oriole]

oooh that's weird. I got all the artifacts from island 1 and none of those cabbages came in the chests

i guess i'll need to spend more time on it

[keen elbow]

It should show in the little corner of the island card

Which treasure that island gives

[calm gust]

Anyone know what I did wrong?

[quartz oriole]

true, i just saw it
thank you!

[lapis mesa]

how many of that resource did you have before you turned it on? it needs to be 10 mil worth

so 25 million logs, turned on, would give you 1 atom and a 15 mil stack

[noble sable]

have born

[lapis mesa]

it will remember values so it doesnt have to be 10 mil in one shot, but if you only had 4 mil over you still ned to get 6 mill more to generate an atom

[calm gust]

So

If I have 16mil then that 1 mil disappears?

[noble sable]

[lapis mesa]

that 1 mil is thrown inot the atom pool, when you generate 9 mil more to make the 10 mil itll make an atom

[paper sail]

I believe it acts like you hit every enemy with an auto attack, though I've heard the 2/3/4th punches can't crit or something?

[keen elbow]

O that's interesting

[calm gust]

I thought 15mil can get me 1 atom o.o I only have 4 basic resources greenstacks

[noble sable]

No, one atom is 10m, so if you have 25m the game will deduct 10m from that number to form an atom

🫠

[calm gust]

Rip my 3month wait for atoms

[vagrant mountain]

do yourself a favour and set atom collider to 1050m and turn it off

[fading plover]

I just leave it off so it converts anything over 1050m

Easier lol

[paper sail]

At least really early on, you might want it lower but for sure later on 1050m and off is the safe bet

[vagrant mountain]

just set it to 1050m so you don't fuck yourself over if you accidentally turn it on

[calm gust]

I got nothing more Than 10mil so I fine

[fading plover]

I never thought of accidentally turning it on that's a good tip

[fast grail]

Since the release of atom collider, I have not turned it on a single time

[sharp igloo]

What does golden stopwatch reset besides daily atom clicks?

[rapid shale]

Golden Stopwatch:
Gilded Stamp and Hydrogen discount
Boron clicks
Island bottles, trash island and crystal island
Snail mail
Shop, post office and key/colo reset
NBLB
Dr Defacus and Boops
Spice claims
Sailing captains
Random Event
Daily guild tasks
Retry w2 boss battle
Picnic stowaway
+1 day to minibosses
+1 day to gold relic artifact
Spike trap minigame
Auto trap collect (if traps are ready)
Guaranteed crystal spawns
New vial attempts
Kitchen upgrades from Sapphire Pyramite
Current on-going event boxes
Minigame plays

[sharp igloo]

Thanks!

[rapid shale]

its pinned in #endgame-gen-chat for future reference

[sharp igloo]

Ah okay, appreciate it

[rapid locust]

What's that channel? For us plebs who aren't cool

[rapid shale]

Go to #👀read-me and click the peanut

[paper sail]

Endgame chat, though it is like 95% the exact same questions that get asked in the w3/w4/w5 chats because no respect 😦

[slender sandal]

when world 6 comes out definitely go there 8 minutes after the patch goes live and ask for a guide on the new skills

[fierce oracle]

@rough wasp fuck this, I'll do the rest tomorrow

[dapper prism]

idle skilling trophy cooldown*

[fierce oracle]

time to run somo colo 4

[rough wasp]

why u torture urself

[fierce oracle]

yes

[rough wasp]

thanks and fuck u for reminding me to check my IS Trickz

[dapper prism]

Excuse me, i need a mod over here!

[rapid locust]

[lapis mesa]

man, ive been using my ES to grind mats for vials to max snake, and now that ive done it im kinda.. bleh on what i wanna do next lol

ijts been weeks

[dapper prism]

vman void sample run for easy resources

[lapis mesa]

though next week is choco isnt it? means im going to be getting some DK time, few more statues i need to onyx

[dapper prism]

28th dec and 28th feb for choco

so whomever doesnt get it this week will only get it few weeks after w6 release

[upper slate]

Does it matter which characters sets up sailing? and Are there cards/equipment to help boost it?

[lapis mesa]

guess ill just bubo between now and then, see how far i can push grind time and see how my new prints do atom wise

[solemn mango]

what to max in gaming

base value?

i hink seashell is good

[drowsy finch]

In terms of armor, other than my main pusher, should I just go amarok with w5 stones?

[solemn mango]

is zamarok upgraded amarok

[snow light]

the simple answer is everything just slowly and surely over time each aspect i would personally not focus too much on superbits and get them when you can get them from a couple claims i wouldnt be surprised if people in here get thousands of red bits with a T1 plant

[slender sandal]

upgrade what you can, spam your dna as much as possible for the last two plants (they don't go up very high in chance so just spam for more chances), and definitely make sure you're working on the equinox stuff for the nugget upgrade

[solemn mango]

whats the req for equinox nugget

[slender sandal]

it's the 8th unlock in equinox

[snow light]

you can i would personally reccommend trying to get a full set of troll/magma because the stat increases from the MISC of those sets are pretty good when it is all stacked it also allows for screenshots of stats which can help samples

[north socket]

maestro right and left hand works for cooking? O.O

[snow light]

i think it only works for skills W1-3

[drowsy finch]

Gotcha, thanks. I’m just about a couple of days into w5 and figuring out plans to fix my neglected guys after I get some Gods unlocked

[snow light]

yeah if anything i would reccommend using chizoar armor as a middle ground for a bit on your main pusher if anything especilly the helmet because it provides 15% total damage as well

[stiff swan]

What do you mean by screenshots of stats ?

[fierce oracle]

i think he means mana/hp snapshots

[potent panther]

what is the hp of the crystals in crystal island

they sooooo tanky

[stiff swan]

still confused by what mana/hp snapshots are and how they relate to higher sampling ?

[drowsy finch]

^i was about to ask the same

[fierce oracle]

there was a text somewhere explaining more in detail, im looking for it

[drowsy finch]

I think it scales with the last world unlocked? Or something like that, I read somewhere?

[potent panther]

so what hp should i expect

[keen elbow]

The eff by mana/hp bubbles are snapshotted when you enter the map as long as you don't open your alchemy tab from quick ref

[potent panther]

i am hitting like 10m to 30m damage and the hp has gone half in like 10 mins

[keen elbow]

So you should enter the map with like all stats% gear for highest hp/mana, then you swap to your eff gear

For most gains

[potent panther]

ig i just have to have enough patience

[drowsy finch]

I’m guessing this only applies for mining and chopping right?

[fierce oracle]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[keen elbow]

I believe so

[stiff swan]

thx for explaining

Not related but should I sample bugs with BM or something else?

[snow light]

better a BM than a a mage or warrior but obviously an SB is best

[potent panther]

do the crystals spawn everyday or every week in crystal island

[stiff swan]

Yeah def doing it with SB

Idk I was doing monster mats with BM for a bit but I’m just wondering if I should do something else

[potent panther]

i prefer bm to sample mob loot since his damage is nice because of looty and his afk is not bad either

[snow light]

im still doing monster mats for mine since my Vman is printing more important monster mats

[stiff swan]

Alright yeah sticking with mob loot

[crisp pasture]

Everyday. Stop spawning after a week of stacking I believe.

[potent panther]

ahh

[stiff swan]

Oh, that too. What to print with vman? I was doing like refinery needs for a bit with him

[potent panther]

they drop candy too right?

[crisp pasture]

Yes since they're crystal giants

[potent panther]

ahh

damn im gonna get candies tday

[snow light]

i am doing Gmush and vial mats currently

cause most of these mats are needed in billions

[crisp pasture]

Although thanks for the reminder. I've neglected my islands 😬

[stiff swan]

Got it Okok

[snow light]

make sure to have chocco chip before you go to that island

[small igloo]

insane level gains if you do

[steady plover]

Has anyone gotten that glitch where stats don't boost skill efficiency? How do I fix it? It's only on my second character too

[potent panther]

do these crystals only give 1 hr time candies?? i killed 2 and got only 1 hr time candies

in crystal island btw

[keen elbow]

They can give the same candies a giant would

Gotten 24h and 12h plenty of times

[potent panther]

ahh then my luck is just bad

2x dr i mean

[keen elbow]

2???

[noble mesa]

I think u need more dr

[snow light]

wait so if you can print red frisbees you should be able to print the glass shards too? or is it only the top left drop that is printable

[thin kernel]

no no

[junior arrow]

only top left of their card

[thin kernel]

frisbees is "normal" drop

[junior arrow]

red frisbee is unique in that manner

[thin kernel]

where glas shard is "rare" drop

[snow light]

ah got it got it i just wanted to double check cause glass shard has 5x "higher" chance to drop than a red frisbee

[thin kernel]

8 more lvls.. then my acc is 5000 😄

[junior arrow]

yea wood mushrooms didnt have a normal mob drop so it defaulted to red frisbees instead

[snow light]

yeah that is good to know gonna go print those once i get some skills to lvl 1000 for skill mastery

[junior arrow]

if you are going to print frisbees best done on vman during a speedrun

[snow light]

yeah gonna do so maybe in like 2 speedruns cause i wanna book some talents for Vman like time in the void and mob spawn rate now that i finally unlocked fury relic

[olive sphinx]

Is there any td setup to reach w5 td wave 50 ?

[snow light]

i just went with
void frozone poisonicx3 lightning kraken x3 and parties all around the map where they would reach the towers idk if it will do what you need though

[tulip sundial]

do we know what the actual bonus from the nugget in Gaming is?

[azure spindle]

the nugget bonus is a multiplier of the nugget value

so nugget value is the bonus value

[pine yacht]

I was wondering why my bits were so much lower and then I realized I forgor my snail reset

[azure spindle]

not some weird calculation

[tulip sundial]

seemed too much of a bonus to be a straight up multiplier, thats all

[azure spindle]

the relative buff is massive once you get until you get in the 10's of thousands for nuggets then slows down quite a bit

[wide halo]

Huh

[wraith granite]

HELLO???

[wide halo]

Nice

[wraith granite]

my highest before this was 250k

[wide halo]

Whys my rock bugged 😔

good for you

[wraith granite]

best of luck with your nuggets

[wide halo]

My destined 2.5k has been with me for 1 year now 🙏

I just stopped hoping for a bigger nugget b4 i unlock equi

[wraith granite]

i was literally the same lol

it was either 1.3k for 3.1k for like a year

[wide halo]

Really sucks 😔

[pine yacht]

ye before equi I was stuck with 60k nug for well almost entirety of gaming

[tulip sundial]

equinox boost a game changer then?

[pine yacht]

yup

[tulip sundial]

I'm not far enough into the game to get anything out of equinox yet

[pine yacht]

with it you are at least guaranteed a nug increase at some point ( even if it might be by literally 1 )

[rigid cedar]

What gear should I run after void?

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[pine yacht]

well you answered your own question XD

[rigid cedar]

Lol

[pine yacht]

if u can, u should start working thorwards troll gear

[rigid cedar]

I don’t have the crafting recipe yet but does it require lustre to craft it?

Or void?

[pine yacht]

neither

later gear doesnt build from ore bars

aka troll, magma and kattle gear

[rigid cedar]

What does it require? Is it expensive?

[pine yacht]

the hardest thing to get is usually nullo salt

[snow light]

it is and isnt at the same time it requires nullo salts which are the issue until they are not the issue anymore

[rigid cedar]

Man salts are stopping my progression hard rn

[pine yacht]

u do still need starfire and later dreadlo bars

troll gear also requires some rare drops for the most part

[snow light]

i wanna say screw the balance of perma uptime for salts and just level all my salts as much as i can right now

[fierce oracle]

@barren otter @rough wasp I might have decided to spend my candy on fractal instead of bleach

[snow light]

but i fear i wont be able to keep up with the resource demands

[wide halo]

Hahah I love not getting corndog after 28 attempts

[rigid cedar]

Is there a strategy for salts?

[fierce oracle]

but tomorrow I'll be back at bleach

[fierce oracle]

ur still at it?

[barren otter]

@vagrant mountain might be a 10k angle tonight..

[fierce oracle]

holy

[barren otter]

yea lmao

[pine yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1122195591234060369/salt_rank.png?ex=65997a16&is=65870516&hm=c045eb091180fc76196e5ba4b1cd4805e3deeaebc7699538c5833271bc1acf9f&

[barren otter]

i wanted to hit 2.3B sample

[noble mesa]

When it will work on mobil????

[wide halo]

What are some of the most important prayers to unlock?

[fierce oracle]

how much did it increase from the levels you got today?

[snow light]

skill one midas and zerg rushagon printer as well if you havent been playing for long and cant reach the 90% print cap without it

[wide halo]

I'm still at 63% sample size 😔

[barren otter]

its impossible to tell now

[wide halo]

Alr got most of those cept I think Midas zerg and rushahon

[barren otter]

i was at 9950B earlier today and it rounded up to 11T

lol

[fierce oracle]

I was talking more about oak/hr, but ig you didnt check/ss it before starting

[barren otter]

oh

[wide halo]

Think i just got fibers of absense or something seems pretty mid

[fierce oracle]

its decent if you dont reach multikill on the mobs

but as long as you reach multikill its trash until you hit multikill cap

[snow light]

i usually only use those multikill ones and portal prayers on my Vman when i am portal speed running

[wide halo]

Yo my first epic pet what the heck I got crystal custard

[barren otter]

its gone up 4.5% in the past few days now

[wide halo]

Can't beleive i was this close to getting slug
I normally get slime or beans.

[fierce oracle]

oh, so around 100M?

thats not bad

[barren otter]

this is an old one but idk how much ive clicked since then

[frigid basalt]

do we get exp for all chars if eagle eye was used?

[wide halo]

Just use trapping drone and yes

[pine yacht]

seems like I will need 5-10x dmg for my SECOND bubo to oneshot crystals with 3 prayers at Crunchy Socks

[wide halo]

Second bubo?

[frigid basalt]

cool, thanks

[wide halo]

Why not another es

[pine yacht]

before es was a thing

[wide halo]

Explains it

I'd have gotten another bubo too tbf to keep a lab build up at all times

[pine yacht]

that was my reasoning

and it did in fact speed up the lab at the time a bit

[frigid basalt]

what sub should i get for my 3rd archer?

[wide halo]

But slowly with more jewels it becomes useless and more divinity based bonus is always good

[fierce oracle]

SB

[frigid basalt]

oh, thank you

[hybrid spindle]

what's the layout to get the last lab gem with 6 chars?

[pine yacht]

is there a cap for how many prayer slots u can get for free ?

[wide halo]

7-9?

[pine yacht]

9 at 600 or so ?

[true obsidian]

wait...did lava disable this? i can't open it anymore

[muted bramble]

Before

[olive sphinx]

Where is after ?

[olive sphinx]

Probably available during the event ?

[muted bramble]

On going

[true obsidian]

other event items still useable

[olive sphinx]

200 gems already 😭

[olive sphinx]

Try reopen the game

[true obsidian]

nope, it not working

[snow light]

i really really wish that other skilling tools gave this misc bonus

[olive sphinx]

Damn it's a bug then

[olive sphinx]

Misc so

[snow light]

yeah but it would incentivize getting max tools for each toon or at least the important ones even more so than they already are

[muted bramble]

after for now ....

[bright vine]

You don’t have max tools on all toons?

[muted bramble]

gonna do the rest at some point in the future

[muted bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-got-time-for-that-a-intnobody-got-time-for-that-no-time-for-that-nope-no-gif-10243842

[olive sphinx]

Got bobjoepickle ?

[muted bramble]

not yet

[olive sphinx]

+slab is need

[snow light]

no working on that slowly but surely those salts kinda intimidating when i dont even have the salts for their weapons and troll armor

[stuck sundial]

With doot pet, do I need to link at least 1 character to the god to activate minor bonus?

[wide halo]

Omfg i can't get these artifacts anciented

Any tips on artifact ancienting?

[stuck sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-samberg-jorma-taccone-may-your-hammer-be-mighty-lonely-island-hot-rod-gif-11714875

[muted bramble]

honestly explore the different mythologie and find a god that you believe in and start praying to it

probably the most optimal way to achieve your goal

I've been praying to Hel from the Norse pantheon recently but still didnt get that one eldritch I've been aiming for in the last 3months

Time to look for a different deity

[snow light]

this artifact is probably going to be your best friend for a good minute because of how much it helps but after that there isnt many other bonuses that i can think of off the top of my head so just power through it all

[snow light]

all bonuses should be active if anything just link someone to the cat god because if i remember right that bonus is the only one that isnt activated for some reason

[hybrid spindle]

is the divine trophy the best one for gmush kills or am I forgetting a better one?

[noble sable]

Nothing trophy prob

[shy flame]

are guild bonuses important and if so what should you be aiming for?

[stuck sundial]

Thank you

[shy flame]

purrmep by design can only be linked to by one person, which is likely why doot's "link to all" doesn't work in that case

[wide bolt]

on which one shou i farm these

normal/chaotic/nightmare

[shy flame]

depends on your key gain, odds are best on nightmare but if you can't produce enough keys to support farming on nightmare then, welp

Based on quick and dirty napkin math chaotic might be the most efficient farm per key but it's also just very quick math prone to errors on my end

[warm pond]

I read it is recommended to remove the SB talent that let's sailing chest combine

Is that true?

[shy flame]

I personally don't think so but based on feedback from this channel I may have a very unoptimized approach to sailing

[pseudo blaze]

depends on log in frequency

log in once or twice a day? yes

log in more than that per day? no

[warm pond]

I check a lot

[pseudo blaze]

then no

[warm pond]

So keep talent?

[pseudo blaze]

no talent

[warm pond]

Oh

[shy flame]

IIRC it's 5 keys for chaotic, which is a 1 in 1250 chance, and 60 keys for nightmare, which is presumably that 1 in 143 chance. Nightmare costs 12 chaotic entries, and I think given these rates it may be best to do chaotic but could be wrong

[shy flame]

To add to this I login once a day, so me saying "I think it's fine to keep SB talent" is based on a once a day login, which doesn't seem to be your experience and Kden's info is likely more useful for you

[viral lava]

I believe I saw people have these numbers in like the hundreds? Does someone know how?

[pseudo blaze]

decant

[wheat crown]

Active bubo 24/7 with maxed equinox bonus

[pseudo blaze]

i havent seen anyone with hundreds tho

[shy flame]

Idleon is a game of marginal progress, if your progress doesn't match another player's you likely just need more time to get there

[pseudo blaze]

i think you’re p high as it is

[wheat crown]

Pretty sure there are people atleast at 150

[pseudo blaze]

he’s asking how this comment doesnt rly help

[shy flame]

Sorry, I must have misread something

Just saw Sky commenting on a numbers discrepancy my bad'

As others have said active play is your best way to progress

[wide halo]

Is that the isle 1 artifact ?

[wheat crown]

Only other boost to those speeds as far as I know is the limited cauldron gemshop purchase and a stamp, otherwise it's just active bubo

[wide halo]

Need to 3X my gems for draconic

[empty ocean]

i have 2k gems

[shy flame]

I personally think it's worth considering that you're playing your own game and progressing on your own time, it is okay if you aren't some hyper end game player, but the advice others are giving is useful if you wanna push harder for progress

[shy flame]

I have 2 okay gems wanna trade

[wide halo]

😦

[empty ocean]

I have 2k gems that's nothing when it comes to w6 buyables

[shy flame]

Probably nothing when it comes to doot attempts too tbh (especially since those are cash only)

[empty ocean]

you can't use normal gems

[shy flame]

yes you have to spend cash on special gems

doot egg in limited shop pls

[empty ocean]

ik doot is like 1k$ at least

[wide halo]

500$*

[wheat crown]

USD

[shy flame]

for either 1k or 500 dollars I can buy like, just a lot of tacos

[wide halo]

Whole ass playstation for 500

[empty ocean]

I can get myself something cool

yeah ps5 is something like 500

[shy flame]

I could got one of those ridiculously expensive audiophile headsets

[wide halo]

Got my first custard today first time getting so close to doot 😔

[shy flame]

does the ps5 have particularly good specs of something?

[wide halo]

Doubling exp gain is indeed a dub 🙏

Gow I'd assume

[empty ocean]

i dont have custard but got ram and the slug

[shy flame]

I'd rather get some $600 audiop[hile headphones to be like, "hrm this is the same sound but there's more sound in the sound"

[wheat crown]

The drop rate boost is the real win from custard

[wide halo]

I've never owned a ps 😔

[wide halo]

Lucky

[shy flame]

Ram is literally so good

best QoL pet

[empty ocean]

Yeah you dont need chest talent anymore

[wide halo]

Sheepie 🙏

[shy flame]

idk what custard is so idk if I have it

[wide halo]

It lets u access chest from anywhere right?

[empty ocean]

yep

[shy flame]

Ram was my first pet and like, yeah, pretty great start

[empty ocean]

purple alien

[wide halo]

100% Dr and exp

[wheat crown]

Custard is w4 crystal mob, gives +1 times to drop rate and xp

[shy flame]

okay I have custard it's just not as noticeable as the ram chest

I need rift, doot, and Bean somehow

not sure why bean is the most common of the rarest pets

[empty ocean]

i need dootcustard and sandie pot

[shy flame]

will trade you a pot for doot

[wide halo]

I need Ram doot slug another rare pet I forgot about

[empty ocean]

Wonder how long pets will stay

[wide halo]

Hopefully until i snag a doot

[shy flame]

I'd guess as long as they make money

[empty ocean]

since lava said its timed and then new rotation come

probably month or two after w6

or even more

[shy flame]

People who are dootless would get mad, which would not be great

[empty ocean]

happens

📝

[swift rose]

does CC affect sigils?

[shy flame]

My understanding is that doot is a nearly gamebreaking buff so like, yeah, you can cycle off the current pets, but that may just make a ton of people mad

[wide halo]

I'm like 87% sure it doesn't

[wheat crown]

No

[swift rose]

thx

[shy flame]

Yes, it is easier to work on sigils after they are stunned or slowed by crowd control

[empty ocean]

if you miss event in any game would you be mad? probably but it doesn't matter

[swift rose]

youre worse than w3 chat

[wheat crown]

Doot is too revolutionary of a buff though

[empty ocean]

gem shop and vials

[shy flame]

I wouldn't be mad, but given how big an impact doot makes it kind of makes sense to assume people would get mad

[shy flame]

I am sorry but you are also right that I am awful unfortunately

[swift rose]

i mean just rotate everything except doot

[wide halo]

Next doot replacement will give 1000% boost to samples if you have doot

That way people will be forced to spend money on doot ;D

[swift rose]

also as long as there's tradeable doots, not really an issue

[shy flame]

Doot gets introduces, is practically gamebreaking, can only be gotten by whales, pet cycle happens and he goes away and so f2p peeps have another obstacle to getting doot. Kinda sets things up for anger

[empty ocean]

i dont think there will be new pets any soon but one day sure thing

[wide halo]

We can beg and eventually get a doot hopefully

[wheat crown]

Probably best option but imo companions never shouldve had buffs and certainly not these insane ones they have. Don't even know what lava would do for another doot level pet

[shy flame]

I think I've read before that on average doot takes two years to get f2p, so yeah, cycling out pets would be, uh, chaotic

[wide halo]

Uh no actually it takes 4 years

[swift rose]

something with w6 skills; and the man needs to make a living somehow

[wheat crown]

Pets can still be paid but not give buffs and there is already plenty for people to spend money on, I've no problem with him making money

[wide halo]

Is 500$ like a lot for Americans?

[snow light]

Yes it is 4th isle 1 artifact i would suggest trying to anchient that one first then the next high priority ones cause if i remember right the chances go down based off the artifacts you have

[empty ocean]

i am European

[wheat crown]

I just don't like the entire balance of the game falling apart on p2w

[wide halo]

I've been trying but I have only managed to ancient the Rubik cube so I'm thinking of giving up and going for a cooking speed multi based on turkey artifact then going back to that island

[swift rose]

yea but also lava obviously makes a living off this game if you factor in half of the average monthly users are paying then 🤷

[empty ocean]

pet update was hated for being p2w it likely lasted month or so and then people moved on

[wide halo]

Had to sway the masses 😔

[shy flame]

half a grand USD is a lot for anyone

[snow light]

Do as you need to i am trying to hyper focus that frost and fury relic because i want that efficency bonus for w1-3 skills and try to catch up talent wise for my other classes specifically my Vman

[wheat crown]

Doot would've been perfectly fine as a w7-8 buff, not a buff unlockable before you even know what a divinity is

[wide halo]

I want furry too but the 150k speed req is throwing me off

[empty ocean]

imagine people starting journey when theres 10 worlds

it gets more time consuming after every new world

for new players

[wide halo]

I got like a question when I go to island 1 my minimum time is 116 min and I can get my loot pile filled in 2 hrs 30 mins but when i go to storm island i need 130 min time and for some reason I have to make 3 6 hour trips to get my loot pile filled why is this

[shy flame]

I don't think "he needs to make a living" is a great argument, yeah, it's technically a f2p game but it has plenty of freemium aspects, you can to an extent P2W, and even beyond that, there's still just aesthetic options which, like, you don't get an advantage from aesthetics but it's definitely a very nice way to incentivise purchases by letting people have more control over appearance in a gaame they care about playing

[swift rose]

not factoring in skills, w5 took me a little over a week to get through so not bad tbh

[snow light]

I dont make it less than the minimal time for all my ships and i just check about every 2 hours myself

[wheat crown]

It's marketed as an idle game though, it makes sense that later worlds make previous worlds easier and remove some of the work involved

[empty ocean]

rn it takes me 5 mins to do things

[empty ocean]

you have to unlock certain bonuses first

[wheat crown]

Yes

[empty ocean]

and work on everything to be optimal

[snow light]

The islands are farther away then the game makes them look in the sailing map they are exponentially farther than they look

[swift rose]

tbh whenever lava needs to pay rent he can just drop dragonic couldrons in the shop lol

[empty ocean]

or at least progress

[empty ocean]

we got 3 alr

[wheat crown]

Just add a new chip

[shy flame]

chip chip, makes you get rare chips more frequently

[wide halo]

It says I need 2 hours to reach the island and it says the same for island 1 but one needs 2 hours 30 mins to fill the loot pile and another needs 18 hours :/

[empty ocean]

add new pets and he can have few next rents

[empty ocean]

2.30 still worth it

after 4h I wouldn't

[wide halo]

Heard like average American homes like 100k $?

[olive sphinx]

Need w5 td setup!!

[swift rose]

Some do some dont

[wide halo]

2 hour 30 for 3-4 chest worth?

[swift rose]

Not anymore

[empty ocean]

i got 2

[shy flame]

median wage in America is like 58k, we have a debt crisis currently

For the richest country in the world we sure are poor

[potent panther]

is the chiz helm better than w3 class helms??

in my budget rn class is ez to craft

[shy flame]

yes

[wide halo]

Lower now?

[shy flame]

chiz>troll>magma>divine

[true obsidian]

anyone still have this and can open it? i can't open it but don't know it bc lava or my game have bug

[potent panther]

should i craft class helm for now and then i will recraft chiz later

[wide halo]

58k huh isn't a college tuition in America 4 times that or something

[empty ocean]

boss equipment is better in general w5 is not only

[potent panther]

oh wait that's a waste isnt it

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[shy flame]

As I said we are in the middle of a debt crisis

[shy flame]

tbh I don't think class helms are ever worth but someone brought up the gear suggestions so look at that

[wide halo]

Just eat chocolate chocolate chip ice cream 😔

[potent panther]

it was me haha

class helms look cool

[wide halo]

Hey xaya ;D

[shy flame]

If you're in world 5 I'd basically just suggest that it isn't worth going anyway beyond chiz>troll>magma>divine because like plat or whatever gear is already outclassed

[wheat crown]

Divine isn't necessarily always better

[potent panther]

k

[wheat crown]

Just because of misc stats

[potent panther]

i find magma better even though haven't unlocked it

[shy flame]

magma is better for sampling because of %all

divine is for being a fighty boi

[wide halo]

Diabolical where 😔

[potent panther]

lava should add more task unlocks i have like almost 100 points saved up

[wide halo]

Speaking of which

Help 🙏

[potent panther]

like atleast fill the 2 left boxes

!merit 5

??

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[shy flame]

atom upgrade costs

[potent panther]

ahh

[teal lynx]

Divine Armor is very situational. You fight active -> Craft Helm and Boots for the DR. You fight afk -> Craft Chest and Pants for the Respawn. You are just lazy -> Decide between full Magma/Divine

[wide halo]

Aight I'll max loot pipe

[shy flame]

I use full divine on all characters because they all practice divinity

[potent panther]

i mean if you are high enough lvled or endgame, u can easily get the matts to make 2 sets, 1 divine and 1 magma

[wide halo]

I need moar talent points and star talent points tbf
How do I get star talent points ik talent points thru alchemy

[shy flame]

tbh the biggest issue with crafting magma/divine is having your salt production good enough that you have a enough null salt

if you didn't screw that up early like me then yeah, you can make plenty of both

[potent panther]

stamps

[wide halo]

Another overlevelled salt ranks like me?

[potent panther]

ez source

[wide halo]

Stamps huh

Gotta get those star talent point stamps levelled up

[potent panther]

i screwed my salts way too much

if i have to tell you you would vomit

i still will

[wide halo]

The scaling on the points for elite tab Is quite good is it 3 per level?

[shy flame]

mine are literally the worst part of my entire account, I'm slowed down so much by inadequate nullo salt gains

[potent panther]

i upgraded my blue salts to lvl 6

but my red salts are lvl 2

[wide halo]

my holy fuck

[potent panther]

yeah

yeah

yeah

my dumas

though

[shy flame]

Okay this is a crime punishable by death

[potent panther]

thought

it goes from bottom to top

even though i saw with my bear eyes that it went from top to bottom

[shy flame]

I think my reds are like rank 15?

With your BEAR eyes you say

[potent panther]

u can clearly understand that i dont read quest text

[shy flame]

Have you been collecting pic-a-nic baskets?

[potent panther]

look man i am asian english isnt my best

[shy flame]

oh sorry, I was trying to make a bad pun/reference to yogi bear

[potent panther]

ahh

ma bad too then

sorry

wel

[shy flame]

Yeah, don't want to shame anyone for not having English as their first language, my Grandma came to the US 50 years ago and knows like 5 words of English lol

[potent panther]

ahh

well

my salts are way better now

my red salts are like lvl 15

almost 16 tday rankup

and orange salts are

wait let me check

orange salts are lvl 11

[shy flame]

I'm currently trying to rank my reds up to 16, I think as long as your production is good enough at the beginning it can scale down to other salts

[potent panther]

yeah

like everyone says refinery is a time gate

[shy flame]

I wish I put more effort into it earlier, I'd be doing so much better rn

W3 skills are weird, they're not like as good as Alchemy but you will be punished if you don't nurture them well

[potent panther]

yeah

w3 when first looked into seemed like the main work to put in in idleon

because of all those mechanics specially all those building construction grants you

but only after like w4 you clearly understand how important alchemy is

[shy flame]

I think "get someone with level 300 construction" is my longest lasting equinox bubble because I didn't realize it would be such a big deal

[potent panther]

just remembered i haven't even started equinox

ahh

now i gatta work

it felt nice talking to you man

[shy flame]

It was nice speaking with you too

[wide halo]

Imaginary scenarios in your head get progressively weirder if you have a fever is something I have discovered

[torpid solar]

When you encourage the snail, does the chance increase apply for all snail upgrades afterwards or is it just the current upgrade?

[sinful aurora]

Current only

[torpid solar]

Ok thanks

[torpid fulcrum]

Can I snaphot crystal spawnrate cards, or do I need to have them on my ''real'' card preset?

[shy flame]

add trazodone for full weirdness

[teal lynx]

Can't snapshot that

[torpid fulcrum]

Ok ty!

[worn sonnet]

They don't call it a fever dream for nothing

[shy flame]

Got prescribed trazodone as a sleep aid, asked Doctor if there were side effects and she was like, "well, not really, but a lot of my patients report having more dreams"

Weirdest possible dreams are trazodone + nicotine patch, just a wild and horrible ride

[warm pond]

I wish I reallly understood sailing

lol

[pastel bramble]

for pure mob drops, wizard is best right

[warm pond]

ES

[shy flame]

ES unless statue farming with choccy chip, then DK

[thorn marsh]

https://idleon.guide/sailing

[little sorrel]

Has anyone breached the 1T(Trillion) damage or 1QA(quadrillion) damage yet?

[pastel bramble]

alot of people have done trillion

[thorn marsh]

oh my sweet summer child

[pastel bramble]

but i dont know about quad yet

[little sorrel]

Oh damn

[shy flame]

I do 1t emotional damage to myself everytime I log in

[pastel bramble]

i have 51t on my es atm, so im sure people have 1quad

cause theres alot of ahead of me

[little sorrel]

I can only deal just over 1B on some characters atm im way behind lol

[pastel bramble]

and thats 51t without dmg boosting gears

[little sorrel]

Mainly from crits but ye

[pastel bramble]

so im like 90% sure people have 1quad or higher 😄

[pseudo blaze]

nah def saw someone with 1000T damage

avg hourly quick slap clicker idleon player

[pastel bramble]

if u level quick slap bubble and wear move speed pots ull get ALOT of dmg

[fast grail]

QS is a hell of a drug

[pseudo blaze]

soon i’ll have one of those T 😭

waiting for choco chip so i can farm statues

[shy flame]

it would be better to get two so you can enjoy TT

[pastel bramble]

i dont even think it displays the T till u get 10 trillion

[pseudo blaze]

hmmm to buy green gems for christmas or not to buy

[fast grail]

Yeah need 10T for T to show

[pastel bramble]

my archer is 3.6t-4.8t so i dont think it displays until 10t

[warm pond]

so help me understand if I got this right, in sailing if going to the first island 25m, If my speed is say 1k any upgrades does nothing for me?

[pseudo blaze]

only loot will help

speed will not increase

[pastel bramble]

distance to island / 2 = speed needed, any extras only affects u if u have family bonus that decreases minimum time

[pseudo blaze]

as in 2h is min sail time

[warm pond]

so I should reorginize my ships so that all the ones that have 7-8k speed go to the farthest island and have all the slower ships just focus loot?

[pastel bramble]

always aim to do 2hr trips no matter what island

so if ur higher ships can do the trip in 2hrs, yes do it

ull get more xp/progress cause higher captains unlock at higher sailing levels

[wide halo]

Is it addictive

[warm pond]

so some ships is fine to focus upgrade just loot and keep on low islands

[pseudo blaze]

not a bad idea to upgrade later ships

[warm pond]

and have other focus on speed and push to higher

[shy flame]

it's an ssri that is so useless at being an antidepressant that it's used as a sleep aid because it just makes you tired

[wide halo]

Lmao

It's the worst of anti depressants

[pastel bramble]

yeah u should always focus on leveling speed until all 20 ships can do the last island in 2hrs 😄