lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sharp igloo]

Is DK really better than bubo for farming money?

[clear quartz]

was a bit of time he excelled, but with all the pumping of purple bubbles bubo is ttaking back over

imagine if i didnt neglect oranges dk would still be better

[sharp igloo]

Okay Ill just stick with bubo then since he also gives liquid

And my purple bubbles are much higher than my oranges as well

[sick sentinel]

Dk is better, might depend on some things like 245 talents but compare same build on worms for 30min-1hr

[solar forge]

how big boost would unlocking vman be? Should I try to prioritize it or some other stuff

[sharp igloo]

Its a pretty big boost. Especially to cooking/worship/trapping

[teal lynx]

They also help with some Multikill per tier + Mob Samples

[ornate zinc]

idk if im being trolled by cogtimizer or not. its telling me to remove my yin and yang cogs. aand in the end the number it should have increased by is incorrect, multiple times

[dapper prism]

No reason to use cotimizer tbh

[teal lynx]

Unless they fixed it, cogtimizer is not optimal for the current XP meta. They don't really calculate the Directionals correctly

[undone iron]

Is there a leaderboard for the pong game?

[ornate zinc]

yeah i feel like it broke

[glacial venture]

what are the snowballs?

your chars?

[ornate zinc]

yeah

[glacial venture]

why so many on board?

you got 4 dks?

[snow light]

does construction snapshot exp? like if i check in on BB for my DK's exp will it save how much exp they are actually getting because for some reason the exp shows higher when i am not active on my DKs

[ornate zinc]

no?

[fierce oracle]

when you're active on a DK the one you're active on gets less exp, and obols increase build speed, not build rate, so increases exp also

[frigid acorn]

build rate was only thing you can snapshot right there by not open cog page , dk shows higher cons xp because of the talent idk

[kind halo]

How do you snapshot buildrate?

Only check cog page on DK and don't touch it on the rest?

[frigid acorn]

wht you need was a lot of cons obol on another dk , check on cog then switch to another dk and dont touch it yes

[teal lynx]

You can still open the Construction page and upgrade stuff. Just never switch to the Cogs Tab

[green eagle]

i'm just curious what the threshold for that coin will be

[sick sentinel]

I'm not sure about whether or not you can ss the rate a dk/Warrior can get by avoiding opening cons on say a bubo. You can ss obols buff for active tho

[green eagle]

there are some of us who will have thousands of that new coin right away

[snow light]

i just wanted to ask was all cause i know you can ss a lot of stuff in the game to get higher and better yields ie. hp mana and whatnot

[rough wasp]

@teal lynx

[teal lynx]

Nice. I got to 120% and 1.5 today

[rough wasp]

Just need the snail rank up

[short sparrow]

Yay I unlocked snehebatu!

Time to , keep sitting in divinity

[ornate zinc]

which classes are best for this

[olive drift]

Any

[slender sandal]

it's a damage check

[olive drift]

Huh never thought of it like that

[fierce oracle]

😦

[ornate zinc]

well only 3 characters can beat it even tho they have lower dmg thaan any other characters ;-;

[rough wasp]

my game crashed

[teal lynx]

ES, DK, SB and Bubo are decent for those mega monsters. ES got Lightning Barrage, Dk Shockwaves, SB all those Cannonball skills and Bubo got Aura + Syringe

.
Atleast your game didn't desync for an hour while playing DK

Ducky, do I spent the Candy for Nothing Island to get the 25% nug increase

[rough wasp]

You want that nugget above me

[teal lynx]

I don't think it's worth, but maybe I get the Trophy

Actually I will wait for W6 release. Maybe we get more Bit multis

But I won't stop clicking my Nugs. 100m minimum

[fierce oracle]

350 runs on colo 2 + a few giants (forgor that it was my weekly reset and went to sleep after the first 200)

[quiet pewter]

i finally got purple dmg text

[teal lynx]

Time to spent those 21k efaunt keys

[rough wasp]

ima gonna chill on my nugget clicks

[rough wasp]

gs hourglass gast tho

[teal lynx]

I looked at CaMps Leaderboards and saw that I'm rank 17 for Max nug but only ~170 for plants clicked

[fierce oracle]

only 44 to go

[teal lynx]

Oh wait. Biggie glasses are 1 of the 8 GS I will get for 200

[lapis mesa]

did one day of plunderous mobs and i already hate SB

[rough wasp]

Not showing my new nugget

[fierce oracle]

I might spend some for 5* nightmare

besides that there is no way

[teal lynx]

Need to upload your IE again. For some reason it doesn't automatically update it

[rough wasp]

I did

[fierce oracle]

tomorrow I might try doing 100 colo 3 to see if its too big of a loss compared to 150 colo 2

[rough wasp]

[fierce oracle]

on the LB

[rough wasp]

i did both

[fierce oracle]

then its skill issue

[rough wasp]

[teal lynx]

Colo 3 is so much faster. But definitely a big loss in Candy

Maybe if you get lucky, due to higher Dr it can be similar

[brittle dirge]

which toon farms the most keys in w5

[teal lynx]

Pretty sure it's DK. Earlier in W5 it might be Bubo

I would test for 10-30 minutes to make sure

Earlier: Not 300+ Orb

[fierce oracle]

yeah, I do colo 2 with 21.93x, and colo 3 should be around 23.4x

so might change it a bit

[dapper prism]

I had to format my PC, just realized all my cards and talents are screwed 😦

[teal lynx]

Live, Laugh, Lava Code

[rough wasp]

Is bunny back

[dapper prism]

Yeh, still setting up the PC, the very first game installed was IdleOn

But didnt open it until right now

[teal lynx]

@tall horizon

[untold saffron]

...?

[tall horizon]

?mute 1089760774039285811 spamming

[verbal canyon]

not_a_cool_guy_the_first was muted. | spamming

[teal lynx]

Thanks Rash

[tall horizon]

😮‍💨

[untold saffron]

Name checks out

[zinc torrent]

holy shit

[clear quartz]

wow

[dapper prism]

People really have 0 hobbies

[prisma drift]

Safe to say he didn’t get doot this week

[tall horizon]

sorry, ty for the ping.

[rough wasp]

oh now that im done farming nuggets they're giving me chems without having to cycle 2 min claims

[clear quartz]

[zinc torrent]

he was just trying to speed run getting image perms

[dapper prism]

Did anyone have the pic of all my card presets ?

I recall someone saved it

[fierce oracle]

my man was in the server for nearly 1 month and those are his first messages

[zinc torrent]

and got muted in the prpocess

[clear quartz]

hes gonna be so mad when he comes back and his cat has ruined his life

[teal lynx]

Checks out. They don't like Beans

[prisma drift]

Should have been a ban smh

[rough wasp]

You missed Xayayah's nugget

[dapper prism]

Owhh, how was it?

[zinc torrent]

nah, i feel like a long mute would suit that

[prisma drift]

Bean haters go to the hole

[teal lynx]

Uhh Ducky. Can you search it? Mobile is weird to search for stuff

[dapper prism]

It's not like they've ever written anything in the discord

[zinc torrent]

why would being a bean hater get the hole

[teal lynx]

Beans is the best map in the entire game

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Nice, 53m 😄

[rich epoch]

sitting at 262 orb my Dk still smashes my bubo on key farm

[teal lynx]

It was a 97% roll

[zinc torrent]

ohg you meant the map

[dapper prism]

I'm still stuck on my 1.1m after my increase from 1m after ~1.9 nuggets

[teal lynx]

1680 for 53 mil

[rough wasp]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

This too

[zinc torrent]

iwas gonna say bean was a shit pet but thenm i looked at is buff

[rough wasp]

ur shit 😔 wait til my gigabean

[zinc torrent]

did you not read my msg

[rough wasp]

i dide

[teal lynx]

That's why I wrote might. But thanks for confirming

[glacial venture]

no clue what bean pet even did^^

[zinc torrent]

i thought it was shit, but its acually good

[teal lynx]

Bean was 5% afk gains?

[zinc torrent]

yes

[glacial venture]

could be worse

wait till its not bored anymore

[clear quartz]

i finaly got something that wasnt a bean the other day. finally got the slime so just need rift slug and doot

[rough wasp]

Fake Mama bean 😔

[teal lynx]

25% more gold balls is all I need
All my killroy skulls go into Balls and I don't have red boaty or a stamp till now

[clear quartz]

Slightly Amused Bean

[rough wasp]

cant differentiate her bean children

[clear quartz]

ohh balls

guess i should do that, so 0 of them can get a red ball roll or anything beyond the gold fields

[glacial venture]

@clear quartz? in other game i know someone called tigerbiten...are you past self of that?^^

[teal lynx]

Gold is all you want for the Stamps

[clear quartz]

not i, i dont think. Mine is the name of a dog i had when i was a teenager

[glacial venture]

your dog was called tigerbait?

[clear quartz]

i was a weird kid

think he was a maltese or something, and i told him hed be delicious food for a tiger, and seemed super jazzed about the whole idea

[teal lynx]

They heard you talk in a high pitched voice and were excited

[clear quartz]

lol pretty much

"i know no words, but tones get me excited"

[teal lynx]

Meanwhile u wanted to feed them to your imaginary Pet Tigers

[glacial venture]

-imaginary

kid of sigfried and roy

[fallen torrent]

Hello everyone

[glacial venture]

bean cooker and bean mama...hm

[clear quartz]

all i got from 300 balls, sigh

[teal lynx]

Atleast you got Gold balls

[fallen torrent]

wait our name are not related exactly

we just do stuff to bean

or be bean

[paper sail]

Did bean consent?

[teal lynx]

I protect little IdleOn Noobs and help them to get better (Mini Beans - Bean Children)

[fallen torrent]

they have no time to. i do it too quick

[astral charm]

what is scaled skill efficiency

[paper sail]

Gets worse the higher level you are. It is a catchup mechanic

So if you have level 1 mining, it might give 50. But at level 60, it'll only give 5 efficiency.

It is still good and worth leveling. Even 5 base efficiency is nice.

[rough wasp]

chems cleared out im freed

[fickle path]

Huh, never knew of that, where do tou get that from?

[paper sail]

Code diggers

[proud pumice]

got so many printer procs i ran out of water

[paper sail]

Jealous

I can't remember the last time I've had more than 2 or 3 resets

[lapis mesa]

i havent even gotten the 2 or 3, been very sad on the proc department

oh neat on the greenstack thing Scoli, thats a nice touch

[paper sail]

Was a request. Not too excited about the 200 gstack thing, but i understand it

I am not getting it done until w6 lol

[lapis mesa]

yeah, probably not til 6 or 7 for me 😄

[paper sail]

Lol 6 will be easy

[rough wasp]

Did you do all your quests Scoli

[lapis mesa]

maybe yeah, im at 110 now

[rough wasp]

[paper sail]

Hello no

I only have the 3 followers stacked

[rough wasp]

Quest items join me in the 200 GS

[paper sail]

Nope

[rough wasp]

i tried

[paper sail]

Maybe after sampling

Probably not but maybe

Go through and tell me the next easiest 20 and I'll consider it

[lapis mesa]

how many are you up to

[paper sail]

180

[teal lynx]

I would join you in the 200 GS pre W6, but I need 5.5M Time Thingies
I haven't accepted that quest for months

[lapis mesa]

oh nice

[rough wasp]

im 2.8m off now

[teal lynx]

I ain't stacking 6 Statues

[lapis mesa]

maybe i should go do quests, make world trophies and such

[teal lynx]

And I don't wanna use candy for Quest Items rn

World trophies for Slab and the Achievements is pretty nice

[rough wasp]

How many candies do you have?

[teal lynx]

136 days?

[proud pumice]

just realized royal traps are easy to make, the hard ones are the equalitarian royal traps, thanks autoreview bot

[rough wasp]

im on the list kinda slacking on plants picked tho

dont look at my slab tho

[fierce oracle]

surely it isnt worse than mine

[teal lynx]

I will definitely do tomorrow
But I really gotta go to bed now. 2:30 am, my alarm clock goes off at 8:30?

[rough wasp]

the sleep procrastinator

[rough wasp]

it might be

im giga lazy with slab

[rough wasp]

im not gonna show it

[proud pumice]

ducky using nuggets to compensate for his small snail

[rough wasp]

[teal lynx]

I will just sleep till 9:30. It's sunday

[fierce oracle]

it was below 1.2k yesterday

[rough wasp]

u should sleep sleep is good

[teal lynx]

I think my Slab is at 1370. Or maybe it's at 1370 when I finally do the Dungeon items

[fierce oracle]

just sleep till 12

that's what I do everyday

[teal lynx]

Nah, I will just fall into a hole of depression then

[paper sail]

I believe i could hit 1400 if i did the dungeon weapons lol

[rough wasp]

wake up at 6:30

[paper sail]

Oh shit, I actually should. Will increase the w5 slab bubbles by 0.1%

[teal lynx]

[paper sail]

Who wants to carry me through dungeons

[rough wasp]

scoli would be disappointed in my slab too

[paper sail]

I'm always disappointed in you though

[rough wasp]

[lapis mesa]

the oofs

[paper sail]

No change

[rough wasp]

whatd i do

[proud pumice]

we hate other species here

[rough wasp]

i leave w3 chat to not get bullied, into w5 chat bullyingh me

[proud pumice]

sorry i followed you

[paper sail]

Beat me in something, or didn't buy me Doot

[rough wasp]

I’m dooted so that’s why

[fallen torrent]

disappointed in you bean

ducky*

cause you removed your bean name

[rough wasp]

I’ll put it back on soon

[fallen torrent]

dont speak to me ever again

[lapis mesa]

missed the perfect opportunity for never talk to me or my bean ever again

[fast grail]

Well, at least i am out of early w5
now to start pushing things and listening to bot

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/mulan-li-shang-lets-get-down-to-business-make-a-man-serious-gif-4020137

[fast grail]

There are tiers past early w6 prep right?

[fast grail]

ok, just wanted to make sure, saw 2 tiers on spreadhseets but havent seen anyone with a ss of having it yet

[fierce oracle]

that placeholder tier seems cool

[paper sail]

Solid, waiting room, max, and placeholder / cheater / you broke something tier

Not biased

[fast grail]

that yours?

[paper sail]

Yeah

[fast grail]

shiiit, guess im slackin

[paper sail]

I really don't want to do the Doot Shroom Zow/CHOW

[fast grail]

zow/chow isnt bad at all, need to do it myself, its the super chow thats rough

[paper sail]

Doesn't help samples though, so not yet 🙅

[rough wasp]

What’re u gonna do for cooking? Just priority meals? Then SChows and stuff?

[fast grail]

do i really have to level these?

[paper sail]

Not sure. I was looking through the savedata a bit ago and there isn't really much other than just.. level meals

[paper sail]

Why would you not?

[fast grail]

Been using all atoms on FMJ

[rough wasp]

Especially with VMan Blood Marrow just leveling meals

[paper sail]

I might be able to figure out quickest meal to cook, but actual timers is just.. Well, just repeating what IE and IT already do 🤷 That's not fun

Lots of work for no payoff

[fast grail]

Maybe could add "hey, you have 300,000 ladles stored, try to level up some meals"

[paper sail]

lol

Some people are already storing for w6

Any levels at all on new meals will be incredibly fast and worth SO much speed

[fast grail]

maybe i should just keep putting off using these until then then

[rich epoch]

used my 100k laddles today and literally double my speed

thought that is a lot of laddles

now my bb duo are free of the kitchen and I don't wanna think about what to put them up to

[rich epoch]

probably gonna swap a SB out of goating

specially because I need 1b gmush

[paper sail]

Another food lust stack will save me ~8k ladles today

[rich epoch]

my kitchen is a joke

[paper sail]

or 15k if rando island is up

[remote pike]

yo has lava said anything about the voidrun gimmick? as in if its okay to use or nah?

[rich epoch]

I wouldn't

nothing has been said

funny calling an exploit a gimmick 😛

[remote pike]

call it what u will im not here to argue about that

[rich epoch]

just calling what it is. the fact you avoided that already tells the history but w/e

[remote pike]

whats ur issue? i was just asking a question

have a good night

[rich epoch]

no issue at all. you're the one that got defensive. lmao

[calm gust]

New featute found! You can unlink multiple at a time instead of 2 people per week!!

[fallen torrent]

24.2% chance to destroy. 10.4% to make it happen. do i

[calm gust]

Yes

[fallen torrent]

i already did it til 21. i guess i cant fail 22

nah i,ll boost up a bit the encourage

[clear quartz]

just realized i only have lvl 2 snail atom

guess i cant level my snail more past 15 til i get myself saved up for lvl 3

unless i wanna tempt fate

[rich epoch]

you can save mail so it is better be safe than sorry

what relic should I focus now? I've been trying the dream catcher forever and idk if I should try something else (besides the trilobyte)

[paper sail]

Amber for the +1 NBLB

Yarn pretty decent too

[rich epoch]

writting it down

[rough wasp]

I’m about to waste my 100k ladles then save

[torn hollow]

how much of a difference does the "+x? to death note kills" prayer make? since it's such a huge damage reduction

testing it afk it doesnt work at all (or if it does the bonus is imperceptible), but active?

[rough wasp]

Not very good because it usually breaks a multikill breakpoint

[sick sentinel]

Yep generally worse for kills wince it usually takes u down an mk tier, doesn't matter if afk or active. The bonus is incredibly small anyway so not even worth considering

[paper sail]

It is Kill per Kill, very smol

[torn hollow]

ok great thanks for the info

[astral charm]

im not sure why but pincermin arent dropping their recipe. it says ive gotten it before on the card but i dont have it on the anvil. im having this same problem with w5 purgatorys. anyone know whats up?\

[rugged token]

if it's showing up on the card you haven't gotten it yet, if it's not blacked out then that's because you've gotten another recipe and they share the same icon

[obtuse rover]

You haven't got the recipe before. That box lights up if you've found any recipe in that same world.

The reason the recipe feels very slow to drop is because it only comes from base kills, not multikills.

[astral charm]

okok

[chilly siren]

does prayer reduce divinity gain ?
i have some character start sitting on divinity at the same time but some reached lvl 3 while other stay at 2

[obtuse rover]

If you have an ES, playing it active is the fastest way to get a drop that comes from a normal mob but not crystals

[astral charm]

maybe doubled xp for some of them but not others

[chilly siren]

ah

[astral charm]

ty

[chilly siren]

ty i forgot about that double thingy

[rugged token]

forgot to check my speed earlier when i did my atom upgrade, +1E

[rough wasp]

Dang much higher than mine again

[rugged token]

I'm at 16/20 atom upgrade

hourly clicks have not happened at all for a bit over a week now though

[paper sail]

noice

ah shit. I left my kitchens on the wrong meal Thanks for making me look in that menu

[ocean lily]

what do you think is the most out-of-date or in-need-of-update portion of the game?

[fast grail]

Gaming because fuck that

[paper sail]

Forge lol

[fast grail]

But yeah, forge absolutely

[rough wasp]

I’m less than Scoli now

Well, still

[rugged token]

did some more upgrades and this is now my furthest level 60 meal

think i'll be able to start saving up ladles or putting bb back in lab for more div/lab levels after I can get cannoli to 60

[rough wasp]

Oh that should be in my 100k ladle pile huh

[rugged token]

12 more meals to 60 until it's cannoli's turn though

i split mine between the cooking speed ones then fastest next ones/meals i wanted to level

[rough wasp]

Yeah ima do cooking speed fs

[paper sail]

You can't make worse choices than me when you do it, don't worry

[rich epoch]

ofc you can

100% vip

[rough wasp]

[fierce oracle]

you can just put to cook new recipe on all kitchens and use the ladles

[noble sable]

I did 5/5 eff meals

[fierce oracle]

that is the actual worst case

[paper sail]

I cashed my 100k in with lab disconnected

[rich epoch]

true endgame waste of resources

[fierce oracle]

imagine doing it with vman on wrong preset

[rough wasp]

[rich epoch]

lmfao

I'm surprised I didn't fuck it up

[paper sail]

That's how you know you're not endgame

[rich epoch]

I'm forever early game

[rough wasp]

I’m in the same league as hachinchin

Forever gated in early game

[rich epoch]

quiet dooted duck

don't get down to my level thanks

why you hiding your nugget?

🤭

[rough wasp]

Icy told me to change

[rich epoch]

is icy your daddy?

[rough wasp]

He cooks the beans for me to eat

https://tenor.com/view/duck-duck-eat-duck-cat-food-cat-food-cat-gif-27137026

[rugged token]

finally on my last eclipse skull as well

[rough wasp]

I needa do a bit more for the w5 lowering

[rugged token]

then straight back to div/lab leveling

[rough wasp]

Join the club

[pearl cedar]

I think I'm done here

[swift rose]

More

[rugged token]

next he's gonna say that was only enough for level 5 pearler vial

[pearl cedar]

Lol nah that's lvl 7 vial

[rough wasp]

Sara lives

Lv 8 is 1M?

[pearl cedar]

Lvl 8 vial is almost 55k hours. Probably not worth it

500k

[rough wasp]

do it Buddha u know u want to

[pearl cedar]

I don't have that much candy

[rough wasp]

Think about the shrine hours!

[pearl cedar]

Yet

[rough wasp]

Or gmush

[pearl cedar]

My gmush lacking

[rough wasp]

You think you got enough for 1T?

[pearl cedar]

I did

[rough wasp]

[pearl cedar]

Now I dont

Not super worried about gmush yet

[rough wasp]

All that work to farm for a week to click refinery stamp once

[fierce oracle]

yeah, we'll possibly get a cool kill bonus on w6

[swift rose]

im always here

[pearl cedar]

I think w6 will bring some new money bonus or at least increase my gmush kph

Yeah 100b gmush is plenty for now

[swift rose]

@rough wasp who should i gmush on

[rough wasp]

At least I have the same as Buddha in something

[rough wasp]

You Candy it

[paper sail]

Can't let me show you up like that, buddha

[swift rose]

no ty

[rough wasp]

Everyone candies gmush

[paper sail]

Only to do bar vials

[rough wasp]

Also should get them eclipses done eventually Sara

Im up to 5m Lustre now Scoli I will get them done with candies

[paper sail]

I haven't even fixed my Iron after the vial lmao

[rough wasp]

I’m not touching any bars rn

[paper sail]

"randomly appear"

[pearl cedar]

Almost have more clammies than you have gmush

[paper sail]

306b/375b total are on gmush after so much candy

[lost depot]

Wizard is best class to candy farm skulls now right?

or berserker?

[paper sail]

ES might win sometimes, but usually Siege Breaker

[fierce oracle]

ES might be better due to double link to snake and nobi

[pearl cedar]

Beserker for at least 100m of them

[fierce oracle]

but SB doubles due to speeding up forge

[paper sail]

better anvil production too

[mortal stratus]

Hey

I have just arrived to w5

Can you give me some tip

To what to do

In w5 first

[lost depot]

Either park all ur toons in the altar OR push normally and farm some divinity bonuses before you park all your toons in the altar

You are working towards the divinity passive exp stance to reduce micromanagement

[mortal stratus]

Which skill in w5 is best of best

[lost depot]

They are all equally strong and you do all of them simulatenously because they feed into each other

[mortal stratus]

I have seen the altar but it really give very low exp

For levelling up the skill

Is there any solution to this

[paper sail]

Takes time. You're stuck with 1/hr to start with

[lost depot]

There are divinity exp bonuses but they aren't always easy to come by

[chilly siren]

the easiest one is 50% from the elemental sorcerer

[mortal stratus]

Ok

Anything else I have to also do

[lost depot]

Equip the snake god on all your toons, easy +AFK% gains

And then re-do all your 3d printer samples

[mortal stratus]

OMG +AFK%

Ok

But to how much it will increase AFK%

[lost depot]

a lot

[mortal stratus]

Means whaaaaaaat a lot

[lost depot]

just do it

[mortal stratus]

Ok

Thanks buddy

[calm gust]

What does this do

[lost depot]

You can have 3 guesses

[calm gust]

Add nothingness afk gains

[lost depot]

It's been suggested, but no

[calm gust]

Absolutely nothing?

[proud pumice]

it does nothing, sorry

[calm gust]

Rip

[fierce oracle]

sowwy*

[proud pumice]

+20% nothing

[strange patrol]

Is there a good priority for W5 Merit shop? :)

[fierce oracle]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[strange patrol]

ty

[calm gust]

Btw anything to increase nothingness afk gains rate

[fierce oracle]

sadly no

[paper sail]

+9 slab

[lost depot]

Doesn't generic AFK gains increase your nothing gain?

[fierce oracle]

nope

nothing increases it

[lost depot]

shame

[fierce oracle]

I'd love to have anything increasing it

[calm gust]

How do I get bobjoepickle?

Balljoepickle*

[fierce oracle]

arcade

[proud pumice]

pray for it in arcade

[calm gust]

Which tho

[chilly siren]

starting from gold pot i think

[lost depot]

Arcade or very very very rarely from Lava himself

[calm gust]

Btw anyone know features in game that isn't 100% obvious like decent in alchemy

[paper sail]

Not sure how decant wasn't obvious so..

Gonna be subjective lol

[calm gust]

Well I didn't find out until recentlyish

Like how I can unlink from multiple gods at once which I found out today

[lost depot]

Most stuff in Idleon is not obvious, using guides is basically mandatory to get the basics at least

[proud pumice]

certified chopping enjoyer

[paper sail]

This is the way

[lost depot]

The worst unintuitive interaction is that Equinox fish have 4 "depths" meaning you can randomly get 4 different values when sampling

[calm gust]

Good thing my samples are less than 5k!

Barely 1k o.o

[proud pumice]

should i keep pushing chopping beyond 90% over starting on mining?

[calm gust]

Push

U can't do it 👍

[fierce oracle]

just do both

[paper sail]

Choppin should always be the priority

Maybe at 95% you can start reigning it in

[proud pumice]

[fierce oracle]

by increasing chopping you can increase samples for leveling hearty diggy which increases sample for stronk tools

simple

[rough wasp]

I just do everything bc hearty diggy is free

[proud pumice]

yeah i forgot to sample the hearty diggy tree last time lol

i have a way higher cooking roadkill than hearty diggy

and my CC still sucks

[barren otter]

I'm about to send a ton of atoms

on chopping bubbles

you think I stop at 95%?

[rough wasp]

I think u won’t stop

And you’ll Candy ur wis bubble

[barren otter]

[noble sable]

Imagine a day when we will make 1b/HR of nails for hourly hocus choppus

zamn

[barren otter]

the 20>30 atom refresh gonna go wild

[north socket]

where can i find the priority for talents for all characters?

[paper sail]

+12 slab

[barren otter]

what's your total at now

[barren otter]

wait shit you can pass me

if you do those W3 ones

[fierce oracle]

just the 3 staffs from dungeon and the premium stones and you can reach 1.4k

[paper sail]

I could do 4 of the 6 w3 tokens right now

yondergreen preventing the other 2 lol

[barren otter]

if you got gems

[rough wasp]

[barren otter]

you can do the 2 premium hat ones

the reset/swap

[paper sail]

could, yeah

[noble sable]

W3 trophy when

[paper sail]

When there is an achievement added for it

[paper sail]

Did it for the very meager w5 slab bubble increase lol

[willow sorrel]

If u get the highest tier weapon in dungeon does it count all the previous tiers for slab!

?*

[rough wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cute-pinch-squishy-gif-16303806

[paper sail]

20 minutes was worth it to do 2x dungeons, but screw yondergreen

[willow sorrel]

So would wooden bow be counted in slab if u collected blizzard once

Without collecting wooden

[paper sail]

Yes

[willow sorrel]

Cool

[paper sail]

Do we know if the slab bubbles only apply on exactly 100s, or is it prorated?

[rough wasp]

could be either or with lava

[paper sail]

yup lol

Deciding how important these last 5 are to get 1400

[hybrid spindle]

Should I use a different order for killroy than that?

[rough wasp]

Prob have to ask a code digger or smt

I use that order for killroy

[rough wasp]

Actually, I have respawn in front but it prob should be opposite

[hybrid spindle]

so last, or like mine?

[rough wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-goma-carry-basket-gif-7907136615076885881

[rough wasp]

like urs but I have respawn->aura

Instead of aura->respawn

[hybrid spindle]

unfortunately, I could only get to 1600 even with that.....

[rough wasp]

I’m still on my archer ones

Mine resets so late for some reason

[hybrid spindle]

you'll get 2 mages next

50 extra seconds don't seem to be enough....probably need a map like frogs for that to work

[rough wasp]

I’m like 53 extra sec

[hybrid spindle]

Then it's not looking good for you either unless you have considerably higher max talents

[rough wasp]

Yeah, at least the 2k killroy isn’t too big for completing

[hybrid spindle]

another week, another failure

[paper sail]

I got all excited.. this isn't the final tier of mage weapons Stupid mages

Maybe Bubo will do better

fuck that is so smol

this might be worse

[merry pulsar]

bro how hard is it to get these stupid strung tooths....

[rich epoch]

what are the tasks to unlock kruk armor?

wiki says: "level 2 merit task"

[pale jay]

Look at the droprate, divide by your DR multi, that's how many kills you need on average per boss drop

[rich epoch]

I'm aware it is "kill kruk with X character(s) and etc but I'd like to know the right ones and etc

[rich epoch]

thanks

ive spent like 20m trying to find it

[paper sail]

🤭 Wiki hard

[barren otter]

@prisma drift

[haughty hemlock]

Can always look at your Merit shop for world 5. Will tell you to complete the bottom left task. Same as the other worlds to unlock gear

[dapper prism]

@paper sail any idea why the leaderboard isnt in the pins anymore?

[dapper prism]

What in cheat nation is that! 😮

Nug + snail # ?

[barren otter]

i just finished

my time in gaming jail

i finished with a 338mil nug + 21 snail

[dapper prism]

@ Lava, now that Herus manually got it, plz give some random big buff to gaming 😮

[barren otter]

did 30% of it with a 113mil nug + 20 snail

[paper sail]

Hadn't noticed. Thread is still there at least https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1177678229507674142

[dapper prism]

And dozens of hours of clicks?

[barren otter]

ive clicked over 550k plants in the past 40 days

[rough wasp]

That’s a lot of clicks

[dapper prism]

How many T7s have you found?

[barren otter]

3

[dapper prism]

you always camp the ~10x T6's ?

[barren otter]

no that died out real fast

i got tired of it

oh boy

time for a ton of atom clicks

[rough wasp]

[dapper prism]

I'm bit more than 50% prepped for that if i ever get better nuggets
https://i.imgur.com/Kf5RyEG.png

[barren otter]

its 40.8M to max boron from 20

[dapper prism]

Oh i thought 64m xD

Either way, not much more else affordable
https://i.imgur.com/uEiAWX6.png

[paper sail]

3 day stamp cycle

[dapper prism]

Guess some Neon once im at 40m+ then..
https://i.imgur.com/l0hsyTo.png

[barren otter]

3 days for max stamp reduc is

[dapper prism]

Oh kinda forgot that everything goes from 20 to 30

[rough wasp]

Doesn’t this go to like 5Q or some shit at 30 lmao

[fierce oracle]

way more, no?

[barren otter]

[dapper prism]

That one yeh, but either way Boron the only relevant boiii

[rough wasp]

[rough wasp]

I was wrong as usual

[fervent brook]

How bad are the silver pen upgrade costs from level 20 lol?

[rough wasp]

Prob cheap, it’s not very good

I don’t remember them being that expensive to 20

[rough wasp]

Are u gonna max it Herus

[barren otter]

fuck no

[rich epoch]

too poor for that

[paper sail]

A whole million, wow

I expected it to be cheaper

[rough wasp]

Me too but

[fervent brook]

That upgrade really should be several times more effective than it is to just be ok.

[paper sail]

10x or bust

Even 200 pens a day is pretty shit

[barren otter]

i only got boron to 26 before i ran out of atoms

this is gonna take longer than i thought to max

[fierce oracle]

colo 3 time

[paper sail]

+2

Am getting quite bored of buying like 20 books a day

[barren otter]

@vagrant mountain

it is time to degen WIS clicks..

[rough wasp]

15k min

[paper sail]

With Rucksack on

[barren otter]

my eff is way higher than i thought it would be after all i did the past 2 months

[rough wasp]

I needa get more eff

[autumn hollow]

Do you get additional snail mail in gaming when you advance time using the log or chem plants?

[paper sail]

Daily reset only. Gold Stopwatches work on it

[autumn hollow]

Lame

[barren otter]

goal has been reached

2B sample obtained

[manic moat]

oh no...your exp/hr

[paper sail]

Gaming would have been over many many months ago if chems and log gave Mail

[barren otter]

ngl

a good bandaid fix to gaming

would actually be for chems/log to affect snail

[paper sail]

lmao I wouldn't even look at the odds

[barren otter]

oh for sure you just yolo it to 25

[paper sail]

just have multiple thousands of mail, yolo click until it won't let me any more

[barren otter]

exactly

each t5 = ~2 mail

give or take depending on where youre at

[rough wasp]

Would be so free

[paper sail]

Okay so slab bubble test

[fierce oracle]

ok I dont like colo 3

[autumn hollow]

Back to grinding for this stupid recipe then for me

[paper sail]

2 items gave me 126 total AGI, so I kinda think yeah, you only get the bonus on flat 100s

[rough wasp]

Das a lot of agi

[paper sail]

126 total agi from 20base sounds about right

[rough wasp]

Guess I should do some slab huh…

[paper sail]

If you are going to sample soon, it is at least worth a few hours

[vagrant mountain]

it begins

[barren otter]

343M carry cap

i dont hav ea lot of candy tho

[vagrant mountain]

nice

[paper sail]

Pop your candies, then swap starsigns to +cap

[vagrant mountain]

the painful part is constantly switching to bubo

[barren otter]

wait

oh that sample is on my bubo

lmfao

@vagrant mountain that ruck sack bleach afk window is higher than my current bleach sample

does this mean im 31% over?

[vagrant mountain]

time to resample 🫡

[barren otter]

i cant yet

if i resample now i wont be top 10

[paper sail]

I just hate that resampling means losing my Golden Relic, which will hurt my output and hourly clicking for a while

[rough wasp]

What’s ur slab monkey, so I know when to procrastinate

[vagrant mountain]

my slab like 1200

[barren otter]

theres no way my bubo has a high enough sample size rate to take off royal sampler

[vagrant mountain]

all of mine can take off royal sampler

not actually that hard with arcade bonus

[barren otter]

hmm

my arcade is only lvl 25

oh ig new stamp too

[hearty shore]

Should I give all my characters magma or divine armor?

[vagrant mountain]

you can take off royal sampler without arcade bonus if you max everything but arcade bonus let's you forgo maxing stamps

[barren otter]

guess i make note a to myself to remove that when i finally do resample

@vagrant mountain whats the highest hr candy you used?

i dont want to run into disappearing logs..

[vagrant mountain]

I used mostly 24 hrs

[barren otter]

oh hmm

i was only considering 1-4hrs

cause the longer ones were used on shrine progress

[vagrant mountain]

you just need to pay attention to your 3D printer time

[barren otter]

yea

[vagrant mountain]

you just need to be careful not to click and drag too fast and don't let the log stacks overlap

[rough wasp]

Sounds like torture

[vagrant mountain]

just don't stand on the edge of the platform and you should be fine

[vagrant mountain]

you literally click nugs

[barren otter]

dont have much to use anyways

[rough wasp]

Can u click the tree

[vagrant mountain]

damm

[fierce oracle]

poor

[rough wasp]

And move somewhere else

[barren otter]

[rough wasp]

I should test it

[vagrant mountain]

I thought you were about to say "weekly giant mob haul"

[rough wasp]

Pretty sure I can move elsewhere with tree node activated as afk

[barren otter]

if only

my weekly reset is soon tho

@vagrant mountain im CCing in my skilling setup

[vagrant mountain]

lol

I did my logs on ES

more souls

[barren otter]

oh yea im done with souls

[cobalt nymph]

omg my nugget just went from 14 to 98,6

[barren otter]

@vagrant mountain i did 1 4hr and im over it already

[fierce oracle]

my man did gaming for 2 months straight but cant candy some logs

[barren otter]

i also lost 800mil logs somehow

when i didnt even swipe that fast

[vagrant mountain]

you lose logs when you try to pick up two stacks too quickly

it is better to click but you gotta be careful not to click on portal

[barren otter]

should i not be on this platform then?

[vagrant mountain]

small platforms bad

I usually stand slightly left of birch tree

[barren otter]

oh i see

so just click the logs dont click and drag?

[autumn hollow]

My luck is cursed. Hundreds of hours of candy, and been active all day, and still no recipe from octos

[vagrant mountain]

can click and drag but gotta go slow like 500 dpi

it's finicky for sure lol

[barren otter]

oh

i got full logs

from just slow dragging

[rough wasp]

my game crashed for 3 hrs

[fierce oracle]

skill issue

[rough wasp]

at leastr my snail got my back

[barren otter]

lol i just read this but this is somehow more annoying cause its tedious..

[fierce oracle]

so you're implying that gaming isnt tedious?

[barren otter]

theyre both tedious

[fierce oracle]

that shit boring af

I have more fun candying fractal than doing chem loops

[barren otter]

but idk picking up logs and mkaing sure youre not losing them is ass

[vagrant mountain]

better than chem loops

[barren otter]

yea youre right

this is kinda fun lol

[vagrant mountain]

you at least get some dopamine at the end

[rough wasp]

herus just went thro the 5 stages of acceptance in 5 min

[barren otter]

my eff went from 8463B>8468B from that 14B

HUGE GAINS

[rough wasp]

fuck do i wait for this

nvm omni got me

[fierce oracle]

bro wtf

I'll do that too later

[rough wasp]

[fierce oracle]

everyone candying bleach

[rough wasp]

didnt monkey get like 1T for 5k wis

[barren otter]

that was 12hrs worth of candy

[vagrant mountain]

everybody candy bleach

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[fierce oracle]

whenever I'm done with fractal I'll do 100 colos for fractal and 50 for bleach

[vagrant mountain]

fractal

[fierce oracle]

yea

im at 33.5k hours

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[fierce oracle]

so im close to finishing it

[vagrant mountain]

yeah might as well get that 40k\

[fierce oracle]

I might just get 60k before i get my trophy back

[vagrant mountain]

you lost master of nothing?

[fierce oracle]

so

I got the trophy

then thought "I should cloudsave before some shit happens"

I cloud save, come back

the trophy is not there

[vagrant mountain]

[barren otter]

[fierce oracle]

so when I get my next one I'll tp to town and just go away from the pc for like 1 hour or so and hope the game registers it

[barren otter]

@vagrant mountain so you can go on the small platform and not lose logs

you just cant drag over 2 different stacks

[vagrant mountain]

sometimes the logs will overlap on smaller platforms

[dapper prism]

OMG... just realized 1 of these cacti is different, woot woot my 2nd T7 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/BQJYPBb.png

[barren otter]

oh yea top left

woo

[dapper prism]

thought the change would be more drastic xD

Now i'm curious for how long ive had it lol

[vagrant mountain]

yeah looks pretty much the same lol with a few extra strokes

[barren otter]

yea most of them only have minor differences

[autumn hollow]

I expected it to have extra arms or something

[dapper prism]

Hey! Been a while! 😄

[barren otter]

T7 chem has an extra phallic part

[autumn hollow]

Yup. Im still playing, way behind you though

[barren otter]

@vagrant mountain this is the spot

perfectly splits into 2 stacks

[crystal temple]

Did lava change something about liquidvestment

mine is not splitting evenly anymore im wondering tf is going on

[rough wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[barren otter]

bruh im already out of water wut

[fierce oracle]

[autumn hollow]

Look at the markings in the middle

[dapper prism]

That's all fine

[rough wasp]

its gaming I just click

[vagrant mountain]

yeah the most painful part is that you can only do it like 5 mins every half hour xD

[dapper prism]

starting my next t7 farm xD
https://i.imgur.com/g3SUTqD.png

[autumn hollow]

Good luck!

[barren otter]

60 ish clicks before im fully dry on liquid

[autumn hollow]

I just got my snail today

[dapper prism]

Hey gz!!! that's a big change (depending on rng) on your gaming multi

[autumn hollow]

Lets hope so. Between that, and hopefully unlocking the metal detector in equinox tomorrow, I'll actually finally start advancing again

[vagrant mountain]

give it a week

[rough wasp]

sneil always big until his ass demotes

[barren otter]

soon

[autumn hollow]

After I spent all day (and 150 hours of candy) farming that stupid recipe, now I get to farm a ton of spare batteries to upgrade my splicers

[fallen torrent]

i can only manage 1020 with bubo on killroy 😦

1200 damn

[sweet pine]

i'm finally purple .

[wide halo]

My first 50 mil crit 🙏

[normal minnow]

2dk's or 2 bb's?

[soft quiver]

Dk's

[rough crest]

man, i really need to break 200 for tenta eye and get that choco chip
i got 10k in lumberbob before power

just wish there was a better way to get the fury artifact ancient

[fierce oracle]

how far are you from tenteyecle 200?

[rough crest]

15 levels, my max is currently 185

[fierce oracle]

book max or actual max?

[rough crest]

book max, i might be able to cheese if i respec with symbols of beyond i think?

[fierce oracle]

yeah, that and bear god might be enough to barely reach 200

[pseudo blaze]

just get rift slug

ez

[rough crest]

yeah, slug is not a thing

[pseudo blaze]

what if u got a 9-5

maximum idleon efficiency right there

[rough crest]

a wat

[pseudo blaze]

and spend all the money on idleon

maximum efficiency

[pseudo blaze]

job

[rough crest]

oh, see im used to it being a 9 to 5

but no, im still waiting to see how my orientation goes on monday
i have been unemployed for a while sadly

[pseudo blaze]

i know it was a joke

[rough crest]

ah

yeah i have troubles with tone in text

[jaunty harbor]

is it "normal" to active farm here even with the warning or will it kill me eventually

I'm getting hit for like half of my total hp each time

[rough crest]

so long as you never die then probably

[jaunty harbor]

fair enough, I've only ran it for 3 mins and its fine

[gentle furnace]

are you equipping prayers that reduce your def?

[jaunty harbor]

wondering if its safe to keep it afk for a couple of hours

[jaunty harbor]

yeah

[gentle furnace]

take it off

[rough crest]

just toss on a stack of grilled cheese

[jaunty harbor]

is it not worth it? I only have 4 tiers though

[gentle furnace]

crystal mob will oneshot you

[jaunty harbor]

thx

[gentle furnace]

you dont need any more mk when you're already at the last map

[jaunty harbor]

removing it now

oh? multikill doesn't affect cash drop?

[noble sable]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[jaunty harbor]

[gentle furnace]

nope

[fierce oracle]

normal wurms or crystals?

[jaunty harbor]

normal

[fierce oracle]

then you'll be oneshot as soon as a crystal mob spawn

which is bad

[jaunty harbor]

got it, thank you

[fierce oracle]

only MK tier due to this talent, the mk% doesnt really matter

[jaunty harbor]

ah yes thank you

[brittle hawk]

anyone knows how much does the cactus radius cover compared to the gaming screen?

Seeing as no one know what the fuck a pixel is, at least can I know what is the ratio of the cactus area to the screen

[vagrant mountain]

have you tried clicking it?

[brittle hawk]

doesnt it get harvested and disappear when I click?

[gentle furnace]

yeah might as well click it yourself instead of complaining like a kid

[snow light]

honestly i just kinda click and pray it hits the plants on the edge of the circle

[brittle hawk]

Might as well have some hints or info in the game lol.

even the wiki doesnt explain shit

[gentle furnace]

why would it

[vagrant mountain]

life must be hard when you cant think for yourself

[gentle furnace]

just press it to get a gist of how big is the radius

[normal minnow]

anyone have an idea on what cldve caused my bubo's def to drop from 2.1k to 1.8k, didn't change any of his armor

[brittle hawk]

you need to at least define the variables

[gentle furnace]

its not like you only grow one cactus in the whole game

[gentle furnace]

prayer?

[normal minnow]

only prayer i have on him is the giant one

[vagrant mountain]

cards, card sets, gold food, obols

[gentle furnace]

shrine boost?

[normal minnow]

OH MY CARDS

thank you for reminding me

[snow light]

what is the highest theorethical talent level for crystal countdown right now? i know max talent is 245 and rift slug would make that 270 is that the current max that Vman can have without bear and ES taken into account?

[gentle furnace]

i have it at 295

[barren otter]

308

oh

without bear

291?

[snow light]

well just highest at this point i wanna know so i can plug it into the website to see what crystal countdown would look like

[barren otter]

i guess its just 279

books rift slug equinox symbols

[snow light]

ah got it thank you and bear+ES family would give another potentially 20-30

[pseudo blaze]

few more days until choco chip :)))

[barren otter]

my vman is at 307 atm

with 308 possible soon

[snow light]

~80% reduction seems so good...

[fierce oracle]

ok, this seems like a good amount, but I have to do it some more times to check if I wasnt lucky and this is normal drops

[barren otter]

how long did 100 runs take

[fierce oracle]

idk, I took a few breaks during it bc I was sleepy and also had to take a bath before it was too late

but if I focused it shouldnt take longer than 2h45min

due to the wait time for the orb

[barren otter]

2 runs per orb?

[fierce oracle]

ye

[barren otter]

hmm

[fierce oracle]

and like, 3s extra of wait time from switching between chars for equinox 1min claim

this takes so fucking long

[raven fog]

Is going for class xp build going to show me a different or should i stick woth other builds yes my goal is levelingup

[fierce oracle]

class xp wont be that big of a difference if your GT bubble is high

but there are 2 things to which it doesnt apply

[raven fog]

So putting card and prayer and equipment and food is not worth it?

[fierce oracle]

noobie gains superbit and Active EXP cards

[fierce oracle]

its not that big of a difference

[raven fog]

Noobie gain?

[fierce oracle]

as it adds to your class exp multiplier

[raven fog]

Yah i have that

[fierce oracle]

this multiplies

and these also multiply

so if you're going to active farm those cards are great

[raven fog]

But the rest of the cards don’t?

[fierce oracle]

if its XP from monsters it just adds

you can put them

but crystal spawn and active xp should be prioritized

as they make a bigger difference to active xp farm

[raven fog]

I don’t get it so for example chaotic kattl is 40 but because he is not active he isn’t as good

[fierce oracle]

so

what is your class exp bonus rn

[icy sandal]

If it doesn't say active it's not good

[raven fog]

Where to check

[raven fog]

Oh well its

19

Without trying anything

[fierce oracle]

so, if you put chaotic kruk, it will go to 19.4x

but if you put moonmoon, it will be 19x * 1.4x(assuming your moonmoon is 4 stars)

doesnt show on your character tab, but the final bonus would be 26.6x

which is more than 19.4x

[raven fog]

Why is it way more powerful

[fierce oracle]

because it applies separately

[raven fog]

Ashhhha

[fierce oracle]

the XP from monster cards go into the same group as every other XP bonus

[raven fog]

And this 54 is woth class xp build

[fierce oracle]

the only ones that have separate multipliers are noobie gains and active xp

[fierce oracle]

its not really xp build, just GT levels + that one pack that gives 1.2x multiplier on xp

[raven fog]

That means i should do some grinde time

[fierce oracle]

yea

[raven fog]

Its only at 2627

[fierce oracle]

I also need to level mine, but I'm not playing bubo that much

mine is 10k

[raven fog]

Idk maybe i should do DK colo for boss cards

[prisma drift]

Gg

[barren otter]

#endgame-gen-chat message

your turn

[prisma drift]

Aye aye

[raven fog]

What’s ur crystal chance guys

On a mage

[prisma drift]

1/27

[waxen fjord]

1/34

[barren otter]

1/26

[noble sable]

1/2000

[snow light]

1/140

[raven fog]

1/27 is good?

[waxen fjord]

anything below 1/50 id say

[prisma drift]

1/25 is max

[raven fog]

What dies it do

[prisma drift]

I think

[waxen fjord]

the best is 1/9 on vman

[prisma drift]

I mean on non vman

[raven fog]

The best or the max

[waxen fjord]

max

[raven fog]

Who even does crystal on vman

Anymore

[prisma drift]

Endgamers

Gotta get that CCD

[waxen fjord]

crystal on vman is good for levels

and ccd

[raven fog]

Ccd

[barren otter]

raises level cap on atom upgrades

[mortal stratus]

Hello

Bro

[raven fog]

Oooooo like what

All

[prisma drift]

All by 10

[mortal stratus]

I wanna complete the treasure hunt 1

But

While killing slimes

[raven fog]

That’s nice

[mortal stratus]

I have got them too much in deathnote

And the 20 slime sludge

I can't get them

Bcz one drop is of 7 slime sludge

So is there