lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sacred verge]

i salute you my friend

impressive dedication

[prisma drift]

I tried to see what that’s all about but I’m on mobile and the post cuts off lol

[gray compass]

thanks friend, i had some extra free time since all of my finals were scheduled in the first 4 days, figured i might as well try this now with the extra time i had

[gray compass]

tldr via character swapping you can stall your vman speedrun duration for void radius cd

[prisma drift]

Basically just the CC trick

Where you make your CC time say really big number

But x1000

[gray compass]

yeah but unlike the cc trick this gives some meaningful progress, which is why im not sure if it will be allowed

[exotic yew]

I hope you wont be banned for posting it as it IS relevant feedback. I read though your Reddit post yesterday and if you havent already you should probably post the replication steps in the bug report channel. You can also link your Reddit post along with the bug report. This will prove your good faith. Imo only your portal highscore should be reset but in the end, its up to lava to decide if it should stay this way or not and if its gonna be considered like cheating.

[queen sentinel]

CC? Cranium cooking? How does that work?

[sacred verge]

missing about 1.2 dr on dk, any tips?

not obols, not midas

[slender sandal]

weekly boss reset

[sacred verge]

its not that

its 1.2 + weekly atm

ahh nvm

i figured it out

[gray compass]

I hope he allows it, already see someone on the leaderboard with a 76, probably using the strat, more people will start to use it and many probably already have but havent opened as many portals. I hope this doesnt become like the gold bar situation. If its not allowed i would hope he just resets my portal highscore and vman page.

[sacred verge]

i honestly hope its removed

its just so much work for a run

i also really dont care about others score and wouldnt mind much if none were reset. however i know some do

specially with leaderboards

[gray compass]

It is a lot of work for non endgamers like me, but imo the amount of progress gained fits the work required, iirc u said ur vman was at 10T dmg, would take you a lot less time and work and for those with Q of dmg much less as well

[sacred verge]

true

[gray compass]

im ok with my account being removed from the leaderboards if that might be the concern of some people

tbh i only submitted my name there in the hopes that it would draw attention to this issue and we could have some discussion about it

[sacred verge]

if im being honest i dont get why ppl care so much about leaderboards and others account

if somebody put alot of effort into something and got a good score, good for them

im against plain out cheating. but clever strats etc etc with not massive impact i dont see why we have to reset everything

[gray compass]

i kinda get it, leaderboards reflect effort and time spent, in this case i did put in the effort and time, but i understand why some people might not think that way since this does seem kinda cheesy and required much less actual progress on the account

[sacred verge]

i get that part

but its also how life is

there is allways someone with a road less traveled for the same or better results

i think its fine as long as the strat can be replicated for anyone

[gray compass]

yeah and this also kinda reflects speedrunning in other games, new strats are discovered, speedruns improve alot, players need to adapt or fall behind

[sacred verge]

if you can get 75 with 100b other can probably finish all the way

[sacred verge]

yup

anyways thats my opinion atleast. i hope lava wont go hard on you for it. i think if anything it should be considered a smart strat or removed without anything besides score deleted. afterall your surely put alot of effort and work into it and thought and if anything uncovered a "weak" point which might need a fix

[fierce oracle]

you cant, second half w5 portals just take way too much kills to unlock

[wide halo]

Shouldn't hunter just be used as like a forge progress generator? Cos I can't really find any other uses for him

[sacred verge]

maybe, with w6 right around the corner alot can also change

[fierce oracle]

just dont use it

[gray compass]

you probably can, i needed 30 or so uses for citringes, with higher mk you could do a lot less

[fierce oracle]

even then, lampars and fire spirits

should take at least 30-40 even with insane dmg

[sacred verge]

this is also guessing. but considering your vman dmg is 100b i would think there also might be other MK bonuses etc you yet have to gain

[gray compass]

the uses u save on all the previous maps will add up

[fierce oracle]

and if you take like 1 second for cast, it still starts draining time

so it will end up running out

[gray compass]

like it also took me about 15 uses for back half of w4

[sacred verge]

also there is allways this insane guy willing to spend 12 hours on 1 run

[gray compass]

yep you could save a lot of speedrun timer at the start as well

[sacred verge]

and i do believe effort should be credited

also @gray compass i would suggest you make a report or something to the mods/lava to figure out if its okay or not

and try to dont discuss it to much before we get an answer

[gray compass]

i made a post in the bug reports channel

[sacred verge]

awesome

[gray compass]

was nice talking to u guys, im gonna return to lurking for now, ill keep monitoring this for a while like i have been since i posted it on reddit, ill pop back in if something interesting happens

[sacred verge]

alright, have a good day sir

[gray compass]

u 2

[ornate zinc]

Whats the best way to get lower lab level characters to lvl up faster? Cuz all are stuck at around 23-27
While bubbo is 40

About 2 days per level for any other character than bubbo

[sacred verge]

head to wiki for lab exp sources

its pretty fast later on

also helps to get afk% up

[snow kite]

Is there any way to Upgrade the forge even more after max Upgrade and gem Upgrade?

[wanton island]

no?

[ornate zinc]

Can you quickdrop on mobile

[teal lynx]

There is one upgrade in the arcade and one W5 Achievement increasing the Forge Capacity. But that's all afaik

[prisma drift]

Not to my knowledge

[woven mirage]

For the whale enhancement does it reduce incubator time per physical mob killed or does multikill count

[teal lynx]

No multikill unfortunately

[eternal dove]

okay hear me out.. theoretically if my game were to freeze while im at wave 180 in td... and im 86% certain that my krakens couldve held them off, does the game still kinda run in the background? like if i keep it open for like another hour could i possibly hit the 180 threshold?

[clever narwhal]

I mightve been a little late with unlocking anvil tab 4. (asking here cause I'm halfway w5), is there anything I should focus on?

Current highest gear is void, and I only got like 5 parts spread on 3 chars for armor, and a few skilling ones.

[orchid rock]

You have 67 points, can't you buy them all ?

[flat forge]

If it froze, there's no chance. Your loaded frames determine how far you get, it's all 'client' sided. Only thing that loads directly from a server is companions

[clever narwhal]

With 67 unlocks I'll just unlock all now

Yeah but I meant with making shit

[orchid rock]

You can't make shit, just unlock them all haha
There's no need of these points later on

[eternal dove]

well damn... i was hoping there was a chance since my ie shows my bm as active at gublins

[teal lynx]

I wouldn't bother with crafting Lustre and Diabolic. They are not needed for the later armors and are generally not that good
Go straight to Troll Armor if you can

[worn sonnet]

Holy shit finally

This fucker has eluded me for weeks

[flat forge]

Sorry man :(

[eternal dove]

i couldve swore at one point i had my game freeze right towards the end of a wave before and i waited a bit and got the threshold.... tho my shitty memory could just be messing with me

[slender sandal]

finally 2 sets of card doublers, now i just need 8 more bottoms and 7 more tops

[teal lynx]

I got 4 Bottoms and 1 Top

[hidden loom]

Yo guys another stupid question, what Artifact should I focus on first? Or shall I get every normal Artifact first?

[teal lynx]

Tusk on Island 1 for more Artifact Chance is top prio
After that Fury on Island 9? is really good and Crystal Steak on Island 12? is good

But I personally would get your boats down to atleast 6 hour trips before focusing those Relics (Ancient and Eldritch)

[hidden loom]

alrighty, is there a BiS what the captains should have?

[midnight granite]

speed and loot value > all

unless you have crazy speed levels all around the account, stamps, w/e such as all boats get to the last island without the need of speed, just then speed has lower value

[hidden loom]

k ty then its not doomed

For the Voidman Quest do i need to have 1m kills on bloodbone aswell?

[teal lynx]

I believe you do. Everything that's in the Deathnote

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JWFPe/2c1e7ed560.png it is finally mine!

[tacit tulip]

Huge gains: the stamp

[north wren]

now i have no excuse to not resample

[zinc torrent]

Will the ridiculous requirements ever be reduced for this helm?

Takes weeks to make one of them

[sinful aurora]

They are already reduced. From 10 threads down to 3.

[tacit tulip]

The helmet is typically the hardest part to make of each set

[bold quiver]

if its too hard to farm, u are not ready for it. (some old saying in idleon)

[tacit tulip]

Ideally the salt should be the only thing to slow you down on a helmet

It's about 350k black salt to basically max out your account rn

[zinc torrent]

It's not the salt it's the bars

I have 4 boosted slots in my refinery and using the best oil

[viral snow]

2min claims on archer

[teal lynx]

Or 1 hour candys

Look at Archers Talent "Smeltin Erryday"

[bold quiver]

cant u do now 1min claim at equinox?

[teal lynx]

Should work if you get enough kills

[bold quiver]

😮

[teal lynx]

1 min cycle through 3 archers

[bold quiver]

insane

[teal lynx]

• Schow that Ram at the same time

[bold quiver]

some people log in 10 characters every hour to click more than 10 bubbles!!!! it shouldnt be worse

[teal lynx]

I honestly don't think you get enough kills for some of the later bars

[bold quiver]

already clicking 3 charactres, what is 1 more right

let me test

[crystal ginkgo]

DK on Bloques for Construction statue would you say is best?
Seems better layout than snakes even though drop is lower.

[teal lynx]

ES is used for the W3 Statues

[crystal ginkgo]

Ahhhhh

[teal lynx]

The Pins have all the information on it

[crystal ginkgo]

Gotcha

[teal lynx]

Crystals don't drop the Statue = We use ES for that stuff

[bold quiver]

finaly some use for that old candy

[crystal ginkgo]

Made the mistake of using the deposit all button on the statue. Didn't spot the "and storage" and burnt my 10k Kachow's...

[bold quiver]

@teal lynx tested, same amouint of bars, 121 dreadlo vs 121 dreadlo

so solid 2x bar production, sweet

1B dreadlo vial isnt a dream anymore

that gives around 350K bars per hour! with 3 archers

around 120 days worth of grinding

[teal lynx]

Only 3300 hours of perfect 1 minute claims

[bold quiver]

milimetric perfect

[gaunt shale]

when you are almost done lava add something that increases forge cap

[bold quiver]

thats when u throw yourself out of the window

[tight mason]

is there a guide for worship W5 ? x)

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JWFWa/5ab3a0beae.png tis a bit of an increase

[teal lynx]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JWFWn/7fe4248dcc.png also we're already off to the races on these levels

ill have to re-re sample when i get home as i just took it from lvl 20 to 70 and ill do more once i afk motes/print motes all day

[tacit tulip]

kanna I'm making you proud

[spring raptor]

How many levels can I expect to invest into faster respawn before I can hit the 2k killroy equinox dream?

[tacit tulip]

stop at 10. Time (and talents to hit more mobs) is more important

[spring raptor]

Well. Noted.

Already had 18 and capping out around 1200 on my bubo

[clever narwhal]

Alright so I just keep someone at the troll key map forever and spam troll fights

[tacit tulip]

The challenge itself is very RNG heavy. It needs a great map, and you also need to get a bit lucky while running it

I had 15 respawn/55 timer and managed to get 1930 one week, but haven't gotten close yet

my timer is now like 73 - still haven't completed it because the maps have been trash lately

[clever narwhal]

Oh and the stupid tasks of course to unlock the armor

[gaunt shale]

that makes me very happy

[long siren]

Is there any trick to w3 dungeon besides horn?

[teal lynx]

Try to beat as many challenges as possible + buy mob respawn and movement speed asap

Atleast that's what worked for me 100% of the time

You can also pre-beat challenges. So you might want to chop/mine some more before moving on to different challenges
And ofc use a DK

[long siren]

Didn't know pre-beating was a thing

Does skilling speed food have an effect in the dungeon?

[wide halo]

Finally my dmg is increasing 🙏

Is there anyway to know the next gold blobulyte shop

[weak vector]

IT has it, but idk its accuracy

[wide halo]

Where 🤔

[weak vector]

W5 -> Sailing -> Trades

[wide halo]

Weird I don't see a trades tab

[shrewd ridge]

yo anyone got tips for making sht ton of money fast? most amt of money i got was the coin after the one in the pict and i cant seem to get coins fast

[spring raptor]

how's your lab

[shrewd ridge]

like

horrible

[chilly siren]

massacre those gmush

[spring raptor]

one of the lab nodes gives you huge money bonuses based on how many mushrooms you've massacred

[shrewd ridge]

all chars r at altar except for bb rn for goat god

[shrewd ridge]

how far is it

[wide halo]

Can you send a ss of where you see the trades tab

[spring raptor]

pretty far tbh

[shrewd ridge]

pretty sure i hv not reached there

[cyan condor]

so for super chows on apocolaysp chow, is it not retroactive? i have over 400m kills on gmush with my blood berserker and it still says i have 0 super chows

[shrewd ridge]

in lab my farthest is only until the 2x stamp bonuses thing

how far is that from the thing ur talkin bout

[teal lynx]

Do you have 2 BBs by any chance?
On PC it hat to be on the second BB. On Mobile is has to be on the first BB

[spring raptor]

finally, the stat wallstreet stamp is mine

[cyan condor]

i do... wth my 2nd bb is just a cooking mook

my main bb has all the zows n chows lol

[shrewd ridge]

and also my kills with gmush is only a couple mill and so far doesnt seem that i will be getting much more

[spring raptor]

an extra 86 to all stats, hell yeah brother

[shrewd ridge]

my kill/h is so little

[teal lynx]

You got 2 option.
1: Swap your BB to a DK. It's recommended for better Cons gains
2: Do Schows on your second BB

[cyan condor]

is this likely to change anytime soon?

[wide halo]

Might be a pc thing or something cos it ain't there for me

[teal lynx]

We know of the Issue since the release of Vman and we haven't seen anything. So my guess is no

[weak vector]

Are you sure you're on IT and not IE?

[cyan condor]

sad day, i guess i could swap em for now, just a whole new library mess to deal wtih XD

[wide halo]

Wait what i thought that was a typo you meant IT?

[urban pond]

what do you mean by mistake?

[wide halo]

What even is IT

[teal lynx]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[teal lynx]

IT is the superior website. But it's way more complicated at first sight imo

[spring raptor]

deposit all is bugged and doesn't give you full value for statues based on various bonuses like the snakeskin vial or even onyx multipliers

[urban pond]

ohh

[spring raptor]

you need to deposit them manually if you want the value

[teal lynx]

That got fixed

[spring raptor]

oh it did? Hell yeah

[weak vector]

sigh day idek of trying to get a kattle cape

[teal lynx]

Using "Deposit all" with statues in Inventory is bugged right now

[sick sentinel]

Yeah statues should be all straight now with their bugs

[sick sentinel]

Should be fixed too

[teal lynx]

:O

[thin rose]

Been fixed for a while

[teal lynx]

So we went through a cycle of completely bugged -> Bugged from Inventory when using deposit all -> Completely fixed?

[urban gorge]

444 hours to get the trophy, is that good?

[teal lynx]

Damn Lava did something

[thin rose]

Yeah that's insanely lucky

Good trophy too probably one of the best

[sick sentinel]

Master of nothing will save me from regretting not doing idle skilling trophy

[thin rose]

Nah you'll still regret it

[sick sentinel]

Nah I don't even regret it rn lmao

[thin rose]

It's such a good trophy tho

[sick sentinel]

Still not enough for me to want to play that game

[thin rose]

It's what I use for BB cooking

[sick sentinel]

My bb will have to be satisfied with blunder hero xd

[thin rose]

[teal lynx]

The deposit all fix was not in patch notes, right?
Atleast I haven't seen it

Maybe I'm just blind

[sick sentinel]

Haven't seen it In patch notes no

[teal lynx]

Thanks for correcting my mistake
Atleast it wasn't something obvious I missed

[weak vector]

can't believe how big a jump this is for DN

i'm saddened that i did many of my kills on vman for achievements and now have to go back and redo them

[thin rose]

I'm confused at what I'm looking at

[wide halo]

Electric ordeal almost done 🙏

[cobalt nymph]

does count only for my dk or does it count for all chars?

[tacit tulip]

All

[verbal nacelle]

It’s just printer output, so it applies to all samples being printed

[cobalt nymph]

alright thanks

[manic moat]

It came...It finally came. It's a Christmas Miracle

[thin rose]

Now craft them

[fervent brook]

I got Purrmep maxed 🥳

[wide halo]

Time to finally get cattleprod done

[ornate zinc]

Is there any guild giftbox items which if picked up dont apear in ur inventory?

[teal lynx]

Quite a few if you have them filtered

[stiff kayak]

how do i complete this rift?

[ornate zinc]

I just got absolutely nothing from them?

[teal lynx]

Did u filter the upgrade stones or xp potions?

[ornate zinc]

That might be it than

[teal lynx]

? that's legit what my first message said

[ornate zinc]

I didnt know what u me t by that than

I just realized now cuz u added the item names

[rich epoch]

level reading

[teal lynx]

I can understand that. Especially if English is not your first language

[cobalt nymph]

lab/div grind starting

[next temple]

why is my guy on seasalt island bouncing back to medium fish

is this a known bug?

[rich epoch]

samesies.

I do the bully because someone should bully me for that 🤭

[rich epoch]

idk if it is known but someone else had that just the other day and it fixed by going out and back to the island or cloudsave

[fathom lagoon]

Anyone got a char starting with P? Need help w the peak gaming questicle

[heavy moth]

i do

map and world

[ripe ginkgo]

Guy any advise on farming Tremor Wurm since I dont have enough def and got2shot kill with bubo

[heavy moth]

or come beans pizza 5

[rich epoch]

are you using the defense cursing prayers?

[ripe ginkgo]

Nope

[rich epoch]

if you are and you're getting killed chances are they don't even really matter for you now (happened with my vman)

[ripe ginkgo]

No prayer at all

[rich epoch]

Welp, getting more defense

[ripe ginkgo]

Howw

[rich epoch]

having the blood chalice talent helps but not if you're getting one shot

[ripe ginkgo]

Im using green set

[rich epoch]

the defense bubble ain't that hard to level up

[manic smelt]

Anyone know what happen to all the bonus bundles you used to be able to buy with irl money weekly? Been 2 weeks no new one 😦 I want to p2w a little

[ripe ginkgo]

And i dont think that even w5set will help

[rich epoch]

with my vman I equiped health pots, two healing pots and the green helm and that got it to a point where it didn't die

[ripe ginkgo]

Wait update and bundle will rotate

[tacit tulip]

this is a primary source of defence

Surviving at wurms however, it's easier to increase your max hp instead of your defence

[ripe ginkgo]

Only lv150

[rich epoch]

but fmj is terrific and if you can't you should look into upgrading it

[tacit tulip]

you'll want to do both

[manic smelt]

@ripe ginkgo I know that but I used to get a new bundle rotation weekly now I do t get them at all

[rich epoch]

there are defense rings too

[ripe ginkgo]

HP also help since I regen from killing them

[cobalt nymph]

now that you mention it i stopped getting them too

[tacit tulip]

The w1 health stuff is really strong for surviving at wurms too. My mages have over 100k hp

[ripe ginkgo]

My HP is nearly200k

[tacit tulip]

And you're dying? D:

[rich epoch]

what char are struggling?

[ripe ginkgo]

Bubo

[rich epoch]

200k should be enough to tank and heal

[ripe ginkgo]

180k hp with 3500def

[tacit tulip]

yeah my bubo has been fine at wurms since 30k hp

[ripe ginkgo]

Wattt

How much is your defence

[broken plaza]

My DK is over 1.1 million HP now. Feelsgood

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's definitely just gonna be a defence problem in your case

[rich epoch]

mine had a little trouble because of low defenses even at much higher hp 🤔

[tacit tulip]

I think I was fine at wurms once I was at like 5-7k def

[ripe ginkgo]

DK is easy for me too

[rich epoch]

are you one shotting the mobs?

[ripe ginkgo]

I played almost 1 year and cant survive wurm T-T

[tacit tulip]

importantly, are the mobs oneshotting you? 😄

[broken plaza]

DK is easy yeah, honestly, my issue is MP with my ES and Bubo

[ripe ginkgo]

No with poison but yes with the rest

[tacit tulip]

the other trick with bubo is these two skills

[rich epoch]

yeah, getting a few levels into the invincibility will help a lot

[tacit tulip]

first makes it so you don't get hit twice

second heals you between hits

[broken plaza]

I'm an idle player mostly

[ripe ginkgo]

Lv200 already for inv

[tacit tulip]

hmm

[broken plaza]

so I've invested in Auspicious aura, not so much in invincibility

[rich epoch]

you should try and get some pieces of lustre armor if you can. those give absurd defense. the shoes ain't useless but the rest is

[tacit tulip]

peak, can you show us your skill bar on bubo?

the ordering of your skills

[ripe ginkgo]

My dmg is 3500M

[tacit tulip]

some skils misbehave on bubo and stop you casting the other skills

[ripe ginkgo]

Cranium, revive, aura, poison, summon

[tacit tulip]

if you're getting stuck ontop of a crystal mob not casting skills it might kill you

Swap summon and poison but that shouldn't be killing you at least

[ripe ginkgo]

Oh yes i might die due to crystal lol

[tacit tulip]

I'd check how much damage a crystal does to you

wurms won't be the problem here but the crystal mobs do considerably more

[ripe ginkgo]

Agree Sakori hahaha

[rapid python]

can someone with ~1/26 - 1/30 crystal spawn chance show their IE popup for things contributing to crystal spawn chance

[ripe ginkgo]

Since I use crystal set

[tacit tulip]

if they're getting you for 100+k, which they might be at your def, that could be why

[ripe ginkgo]

Thats it!!!

[ripe ginkgo]

I can show u

[tacit tulip]

ok defence is definitely your issue then

you're using green right? %def on armour is useless, you want more base defence

[rapid python]

ty

[ripe ginkgo]

This is not the best but with chocolatechip evth will be massive

[ripe ginkgo]

Agree

[rapid python]

so i need to work on shrine and stamps, thanks

[ripe ginkgo]

JFM is a big one i think

[ripe ginkgo]

Prepare for chocolatechip bro

That is big change

[tacit tulip]

a green helmet is 72 def with 6 slots -
w5 helmet is 125 def with 9 slots

w5 stones give 10 defence

Green: 132
w5: 215

Your FMJ is what, 125? 62.5% increase

green: 214
w5: 349

So upgrading your helmet would be approx 130 defence increase

that's assuming

No other % def upgrades anywhere else
green helmet was upgraded by w5 stones

[potent lily]

How much copper is the most i can hold in 1 space of the chast?

[tacit tulip]

1050m

[potent lily]

Thats kinda low

[ripe ginkgo]

What is it exceed 1050 will it go next stack?

[tacit tulip]

anything over 1050m gets converted to atoms, at a rate of 10 million = 1 atom

atoms are used with a w3 construction building, the atom collider

[ripe ginkgo]

What if i disable atom

[tacit tulip]

even then

[rapid python]

i have 4

[ripe ginkgo]

Watttt

[ripe ginkgo]

So it it reach out 1050m, then 3D printer wont print anymore?

[paper sail]

Only thing turning on Atom Collider can do is cause conversions under 1050m, but that's generally a bad idea after early on

[tacit tulip]

It'll convert your prints straight to atoms

[ripe ginkgo]

Okayyy

I see now my copper is 1049 all the time lol

But my oak is 1050

[tacit tulip]

1049 as your refinery will be stealing some whenever it runs

[paper sail]

That's why the current meta is huge on Oak Log samples. You can print multiple billions each hour for tons of Atoms

[ripe ginkgo]

U r dabest brooo

[sacred verge]

imagine if we could have infinity large stacks

[ripe ginkgo]

Very make sense

[sacred verge]

damn that would make hourly clicks waaay easier

[tacit tulip]

Imagine the water requirements tho. we wouldn't be able to farm beans

[sacred verge]

would also open up for the possibility of cost increase material wise

[paper sail]

You'd also wreck your atoms, but, honestly I'd appreciate being able to make the choice

[sacred verge]

yeah

[ripe ginkgo]

I just finish snake skin vials td

[paper sail]

The whole point of the system was to avoid the 2b overflow though

[ripe ginkgo]

So pain

[sacred verge]

should be possible to work around the overflow

[paper sail]

and yet

[sacred verge]

whats causing the overflow?

like code wise

[tacit tulip]

32 bit integer

[paper sail]

2.147b is the highest signed value you can store in a 32bit integer

[sacred verge]

easy solution

convert the numbers

[rich epoch]

string it

[tacit tulip]

technically that's what atoms are

[rich epoch]

but then I don't know the limitations of stencyl

[wide halo]

finally a ancient artifact 😄

[sacred verge]

not exactly what i ment

[prisma drift]

Give us colored numbers like IS

[ripe ginkgo]

Then we cant calculate it anymore lol

[sacred verge]

but you could make it so that when you hit say millions the number change from 10 000 000 to 10m for example

1 bit could represent the million

billion

trillion

etc

[tacit tulip]

and in doing so you break every single function that relies on that being a number

unless it's completely reworked

[rapid python]

exactly what i was going to say

[sacred verge]

implement forexample hex system

[rapid python]

you have to introduce a large number class, then pass that around, which breaks a thousand interfaces

[sacred verge]

im not sure if that the most beneficial but you know what i mean

[ripe ginkgo]

Idleskilling used to do that way

[rapid python]

the qa involved would be insane

[sacred verge]

even if it requiers work it dosent mean it shouldnt be done

thats like intentionally making something worse to skip out on work

[rapid python]

you need to weigh the cost against the value

[sacred verge]

true

[rapid python]

this is done in software all the time

[tacit tulip]

True, but say it takes 6 months of work to do so. In that time you're not providing meaningful updates to the game and it dies out

[sacred verge]

6mths sounds crazy but then again i dont know anything about the code

[paper sail]

We can throw possibilities all day, but.. He already chose the Atom Collider route

[sacred verge]

however it does sound like something one could fairly easy hire someone to do

with all the doot cash

[ripe ginkgo]

Agree. Also dev team try to build up other feature to compensase barrier on that number

[paper sail]

Though in w6 we are going to need Atoms for our Atoms lmao

[sacred verge]

i think atom collider is nice

and a good choice at the time

but over time i think he will have to introduce something new

[ripe ginkgo]

That is what im saying😆

[tacit tulip]

The collider would have (should have) been built with this in mind as nothing else had any dependencies on it

Kinda like how gaming goes way bigger than 2b

It was new and could be coded that way without breaking old stuff

[sacred verge]

also allowing for bigger stacks would give newbies a chance to boost bubbles faster and get to the good alch stage faster

[paper sail]

But it also lead to hourly clicking

[ripe ginkgo]

Agree and disagree bro

[granite warren]

Holy... This morning was a god roll for my RNG, got both Gummy Orb and Weatherbook to ancient and got Chemical plant all within 20 minutes

[rich epoch]

I think the atom route is a very good way of abstracting account progress to resources and a really good idea game design wise

[slender sandal]

i really feel like some of the things that ended up being possible now weren't intended at all

[sacred verge]

if its unlimited stack you dont need to hourly click tho

[ripe ginkgo]

Even you can make big number, what will help new player

[sacred verge]

its the time thats holdig back a newer player from say 10k mainstat bubble

as of now its 1 click an hour

[tacit tulip]

if you scale the resources up to infinite we go back to the old bubble scaling system

at which point noone gets good bubbles

[rich epoch]

lava didn't even glimpse what the madness of idle players is capable while designing stuff

[sacred verge]

with unlimited stacks it could be 3-4 maybe (with a decent print) and given that the max cost stays at current cap

[slender sandal]

idle games attract big brain players too so there's always insane tools and crazy interactions discovered

[cerulean hemlock]

Too much

[sacred verge]

yeah thats what i said earlier. it would likely end up in increased bubble cost aswell

and that would suck

[cerulean hemlock]

We're gonna get dementia early

[slender sandal]

some of the calculators for clicker heroes were pretty wild, egg inc had a whole fucking website of stuff

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

[sacred verge]

but i also believe it would be very hard to go back to increased cost on "old bubbles" now

[ripe ginkgo]

So what if I create some feature that allow you to auto upgrade bubble like what equinox doing td but go to bubble?

[novel scarab]

any tips on reset post office streaks?

[tacit tulip]

lava would have to actually retroactively reduce the endgamers bubbles back down to say, 200, for them the fit in the new cost scaling (vs atoms)

everyone would quit

[lapis mesa]

while i agree that it would be nice for newer players to catch up faster easier, removing that 1 per hour limit also lets these huge acounts scale so much harder to the point their stats would be 100s of thousands if not millions

[sacred verge]

as some ppl allrdy got insane lvls it would grant an massive benefit (for the "wrong people" from a dev standpoint)

[cerulean hemlock]

Spam pens ❤️

[rich epoch]

click the reset button (joke)

but wym for tips?

[cerulean hemlock]

Lava should
Increase mat costs
BUT
Increase buff%

[cerulean hemlock]

Use pen click on shield

That's all you can do

Wait, no, you can wait as well

[ripe ginkgo]

What do you mean

[rich epoch]

yeah. click shield and leave an order unsigned to reset on the next day

[novel scarab]

how to reset order streak in order to save cost lol

[sacred verge]

i dont believe he would have to. he could also set a new cap. forexample 10 bill etc

making it more painfull when you get to certain lvls

[rich epoch]

@novel scarab

[cerulean hemlock]

Use pen click on shield

[novel scarab]

okok thx 🙂 will try it later

[sacred verge]

at some point in the game "mainstat bubbles" will lose potency unless one is insanely dedicated

[cerulean hemlock]

THEN wait one day 😛

[cerulean hemlock]

Alvin enters the chat

[tacit tulip]

if you do this it's now even harder for new players to catch up to endgamers, as they can't generate the same level of resources

[ripe ginkgo]

You dont need to worry abt that since it will end up with max upgrade all

[cerulean hemlock]

I find it surprising there's a good bubble from each world, not just the first one

[sacred verge]

not if the cap is reached at a fairly high bubble level

but there is allways ups and downs

im not claiming i got the answer, however it is fun to discuss

[cerulean hemlock]

Agreed

[sacred verge]

its also hard to say what would work and not when we got no idea the powercreeps of coming worlds

[ripe ginkgo]

Then you will ignore it forever and it will still remain thousands shield lol

[sacred verge]

for all we know we might have millions of mainstat in w8

[cerulean hemlock]

If we do...

That'd be exciting!

BUT
Shimmer island...

The buffs would be wayyy too huge imo

[ripe ginkgo]

Main stats and dmg are relevant but not all source

[gentle dune]

Phone gaming

[sacred verge]

wdym?

[gentle dune]

Construction would overflow thrice at that point for mobile players

[ripe ginkgo]

I mean stats can help increase dmg but we also have dmg boost from other things like skill and bubble right?

[gentle dune]

Lava should fix overflows all across the board

[sacred verge]

to every problem there is a solution

[cerulean hemlock]

And an argument

[sacred verge]

yes

[cerulean hemlock]

Funny how those two go together

[ripe ginkgo]

I think strategy of dev is try to build new things to amplify the initial data

[sacred verge]

well its allways easy to see the problems

and usually people are scared of the "new" or change

[ripe ginkgo]

Unless you have to manage all stuff all the time

[novel scarab]

I can't recall but what are the bubbles/buffs that speeds up forging speed?

[gentle dune]

That just hides bad practices instead of enriching things

[ripe ginkgo]

Skill is on archer but bubble i cant remember

[distant hound]

At what point do you change your atom collider to 100m instead of 1050m

[sacred verge]

there is alot of stuff that needs a "fix"

[gentle dune]

Never?

[cerulean hemlock]

Like what?
Anvil Pipeline description?

[sacred verge]

it does seem like the focus is on new stuff rather than fixing stuff thats not very impactfull

[distant hound]

Haha ok

[cerulean hemlock]

When you are desperate

[ripe ginkgo]

When you can print out massive number

[cerulean hemlock]

Agreed

[novel scarab]

I recall archer's talent but sadly cant active farm both SB and bubo

[distant hound]

I was considering doing it to get stuff leveled up

[sacred verge]

well for example DK orb overlap

[cerulean hemlock]

And ES?

Portal overlap?

It's possible

[sacred verge]

dont get me wrong, i love the new stuff. and i get that it really aint time left for much fix when the request for content is high

[ripe ginkgo]

Guys can we pause a bit and read what im going to send

[sacred verge]

thats why employing / getting some help would be nice

[gentle dune]

1000M is just 100 atoms Bro, not worth to lower it

[sacred verge]

but it does seem like lava set out to do it all on his own

which i can respect

[cerulean hemlock]

I'd like
Bug Fix
New content
Bug Fix
New Content
Minor Bug Fix
Major Bug Fix

[distant hound]

Gotcha, I didn’t know that was the pay out

[novel scarab]

oh ya DK's orb printing buff only DK him/herself?

[ripe ginkgo]

I love that we have a great discussion a lot. I mean a lot

[sacred verge]

but at some point it would be beneficial to atleast get some bugfix help

[ripe ginkgo]

Very inspire me guys

[cerulean hemlock]

He does it for

1. Assuring the community that opinions won't change

[gentle dune]

Remember that 10M = 1 ATOM

[sacred verge]

i think it would be great if he hired a bugfix guy

[cerulean hemlock]

Nope. everyone

[distant hound]

Heard that. Thanks for that. I didn’t know that

[sacred verge]

giving him the opportunity to only develop new stuff etc

[novel scarab]

and here i thought is only for 1 char

[cerulean hemlock]

I disagree.
Spaghetti code is his code

[rapid python]

whats the best class choice for chaotic kruk kill in 30s

[distant hound]

Trying to focus on getting alchemy up. I think I get 24-26 clicks a day from atoms.

Focusing hard on wis to get my oak up then switching to warrior

[cerulean hemlock]

All programmers know that bug fixing is difficult

I'd like him to focus on major ones and QoL if he can

[distant hound]

Make all items stackable

In chest

[ripe ginkgo]

Its like building city and expand it, not rebuild it

[cerulean hemlock]

That'd kill us

[novel scarab]

which is resources is easier for atom farming? copper ore or oak log?

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

[distant hound]

I figured it was oak

Isn’t oak the easiest resource?

[sacred verge]

lvling DK seems so slow today

[distant hound]

Definitely my highest print

[sacred verge]

about 7 hours from 500 - 509

[distant hound]

Other than focusing on first 3 bubbles, any other bubbles that will make my damage jump? It’s decent on most, 8-13b

[novel scarab]

The idling part of this game is getting less and less 😦

[ripe ginkgo]

Last bubble which require sailing stuff

[distant hound]

I agree with that. This game is not very idle lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Wait, you mean this game isn't called ActiveOn?

[novel scarab]

shhhh don't give lava new ideas

[cerulean hemlock]

It's been around since Active Hunter was a thing

Anyone here remember that?

[distant hound]

I started playing on mobile, switched to pc like 3-4 months ago and my account has soared, cause I’ve been active lol

[paper sail]

I need a quick sanity check

[cerulean hemlock]

I've played web for 2.75 years now

[cerulean hemlock]

What's the command for my guide?

[novel scarab]

I feel like u have to be more active as you're approaching late game

[novel scarab]

madlad

[ripe ginkgo]

Acheivement w4

[cerulean hemlock]

Nah, just chillin

[novel scarab]

active as in active afk

[distant hound]

Yeah I would agree with that. You can be idle for certain things but pushing for next worlds required very much active play

[ripe ginkgo]

Exactly lol

[cerulean hemlock]

I was 100% f2p

I still am 100% f2p

Aside from the fact I lost my 2.5 yr account I'm fine

[distant hound]

I was, now I’m a whale

[ripe ginkgo]

Im not f2p but i wont pay for dootttt

[sacred verge]

not even auto loot?

[novel scarab]

i recall some guy said he has to lv up his bubble every 2 hrs not to overflow resources

[distant hound]

The difference that doot makes is insane

[distant hound]

That’s insane

[cerulean hemlock]

Yep

[ripe ginkgo]

Agree but it too p2w

[cerulean hemlock]

BUT I GOT THAT ADORABLE RAMMY PLUSH

[sacred verge]

youre insane

so close to 5k fam now

[cerulean hemlock]

Nah it's cute

[sacred verge]

any ideas what would be best to lvl for the last lvls

[novel scarab]

56 pullss still no doot, all i got are these green fuxks

[distant hound]

😂😂

[cerulean hemlock]

Beans best class

[distant hound]

Sell for more pulls

You only need 1 of each

[heavy moth]

second ES 👀 ahahah

[novel scarab]

wait for trade and trade all these for those who doesn't have bean

[distant hound]

The amount of money I spent trying to get a choco chip is not healthy

[sacred verge]

yeah i was thinking so aswell, starts to move really slow at 490 tho

[distant hound]

Any word on new pets in w6?

[novel scarab]

1 drop on dec shop no?

[glacial venture]

27th

[cerulean hemlock]

2 ES deserves neglect 😛

[ripe ginkgo]

Actually you need none. after u got it, effect is already apply

[heavy moth]

pearl are such a mental health savior

[distant hound]

Yeah I have everything for it now, before I was struggling to get the spice for it

[sacred verge]

i do have 250 pearls

[heavy moth]

ahahah i agree my first at 500 second at 480 XD

[glacial venture]

best used with card doublers

[sacred verge]

however i said i wont use em before w6 lvls get hard

[heavy moth]

thats 25 lvl right there XD

[distant hound]

I have like 300 perlers, the struggle is real. I never want to use them

It’s insane how many you need for tab 4

[sacred verge]

tab 4?

[distant hound]

Same for the gold fishing line. That one is the worst to me

[sacred verge]

wdym

[distant hound]

In anvil

Lots of recipes need perlers

[sacred verge]

not the pearls we are talking about 😛

[glad crow]

finally got there

[distant hound]

Oh 😂

Divinity?

[sacred verge]

holy pearls

[distant hound]

Ohhh

[cerulean hemlock]

Honor Serimo 🙏

[distant hound]

Yeah I don’t ever get them, I have gotten like maybe 8

[novel scarab]

i think veterans goal now is to get 10 Luckier Lad no?

[heavy moth]

whats your gt level

[distant hound]

10 luckier lad is insane, I can’t even get 1 to fall on my damn vman

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣

Goal is to max out Nothing Island

[novel scarab]

I have yet to unlock that island

[distant hound]

Good god man lol

I thought my 1.2k was impressive

[fast grail]

How was your account so bad if you were around that long?

[glad crow]

you are gonna have for a very long time to get a luckier lad from drops

[cerulean hemlock]

I don't active and I'm f2p

Also, obvious neglect

[distant hound]

No I know, I can’t get a lucky lad to drop to get the bubble lol

[cerulean hemlock]

I only log in every 24 hours or so

[distant hound]

Or dream rather

[heavy moth]

ahah i abandonned at 11K XD bubo closing of 570 tho thats why i was wondering

[glad crow]

Scoli got like 20,4 k i think, might be more

[cerulean hemlock]

@paper sail What's your GT?

[distant hound]

I’m certainly not out here waiting for a luckier lad to drop lol

[cerulean hemlock]

Imagine luckier lads CAN drop though

[glad crow]

oh clean number

[cerulean hemlock]

But they're 100x rarer

[distant hound]

That would be insane

[paper sail]

20.4k yeah

[cerulean hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[cerulean hemlock]

👀 Bubo lover? 😛

Liquid lover? ❤️

[distant hound]

I’ve candied probably 300+ times on dredlo

Just won’t fall for me

[glad crow]

whats your dr and afk gains?

[distant hound]

Does the 4th liquid matter yet? Assuming it’s going to matter in world 6, trying to get to 120 now.

[glad crow]

it matters too me

[distant hound]

It’s 9-10 DR, can’t remember AFK gains at the moment

[manic moat]

what would cause certain characters to have a different number of post boxes to spend?

[cerulean hemlock]

Good for flexing

[distant hound]

I want to say its like 130-140% AFK

[cerulean hemlock]

No idea

[glad crow]

you have used more on some

[distant hound]

Well the completionist in me wants The damn liquid anyway

[manic moat]

I have maxed all boxes and am on the hybrid on some characters but some, like vman I can't max yet

[cerulean hemlock]

Uh oh..
Completionist alert!!!!

[distant hound]

Completionist scrub

[sacred verge]

🚨

[distant hound]

I’m not good at it for sure lol

[glad crow]

they are incredible cheap, so it shouldnt be hard

[cerulean hemlock]

THEY'RE THAT CHEAP?

[distant hound]

Damn that’s crazy

[cerulean hemlock]

Wait can you decant?

[distant hound]

I’ll max that bitch out immediately lol

[cerulean hemlock]

It's too easy

[distant hound]

How early in game did he expect people to hit 120 in alchemy? lol

[heavy moth]

i wonder if we ll have use of that cauldron w6

[distant hound]

I’d assume so, can’t you unlock all bubbles for world 6? Just can’t see them yet

[frigid sage]

Prolly was " yeah going to put unrealistic lvl and back track to it when I need it"

[cerulean hemlock]

😛 w5

[distant hound]

I know I’ve unlocked a few

[heavy moth]

yea you can unlock up to W8 i think

[frigid sage]

And 2 year later He still didn't come back

[distant hound]

I cannot get Aldrich’s fury boys lol

Got like a .02-1 chance most times

[glad cedar]

It took me 3 months at .1%

Rng be a bitch sometimes

[distant hound]

Yeah I’ve got my guys just lasering in, it’s been like a month and I claim 2-3 times a day

Got 1 more god to unlock

[rich epoch]

2 weeks of bubo vs less than 24h of dk. both at wurms

sure the dk is rocking a little more DR from the cards but damn

[distant hound]

I get way more cash out of my bubo

[paper sail]

Well shit. Why is nobody talking about using 7day Royal traps

[rich epoch]

bubo does get good cash but later it gets outpaced by dk

i was aware of that because people told me so but I wasn't aware it was by this much

[rich epoch]

because math is forbidden

[distant hound]

That’s crazy, switching everyone to royal for sure lol

[novel scarab]

I gonna leave you with a way lava can screw over player even he/she has 10000000000T dmg:

• mobs comes with shield which can only be damaged once every 0.3 sec
• mobs comes with buff that reduces 90% of your damage
• mobs that died will be revived as a ghosty ver (can only gain exp/drops/coins etc after killing ghosty ver of that particular mob)
• mobs will nullify all damage if damage receive doesn't consist any of the number (1 or 5)
• mobs will change colour every 1.3 sec, green being able to receive damage; nullify damage while is red

[teal lynx]

instead of he/she just say they

[distant hound]

I mean if you got that much damage more power to you

[rich epoch]

wanted to comment but I'd be too salty about it so I refrained 🤭

thanks

[teal lynx]

Neutral Pronouns

[rich epoch]

wait, what does that third collum means? 🤔

[rough wasp]

[rich epoch]

I joke a lot but I've been meaning to do some trapping math too to see if I can get better results than using 10h traps that I claim every 12 or so

[fast grail]

wait,now i gotta check this

[tacit tulip]

I'm personally fond of the idea of specific mobs having damage resistance/weaknesses.
You can kill them with the wrong damage type, but one of the following happens:

1. You get no MK
2. You get no drops
3. you need to do 1000x their hp to kill them

etc

[distant hound]

I think steel is my max, so not sure why that excited me lol

[paper sail]

I was looking for the best traps for us lazy people that only let the Rift vaccuum buff auto-collect traps on daily reset. So I am rounding up the "real" time to the actual time it would get claimed at, since it is full days

[rich epoch]

I see

[tacit tulip]

If you wanna go pure lazy mode you can set up 8 40H traps of each critter type to get a fairly decent spread of critters 😄

[paper sail]

That's what I have been doing, but, that chart I just made says 7day Royals are better

[rich epoch]

you're considering being active always when the reset time comes, right? because if not that can screw things over

[paper sail]

Yes, it is assuming 24/7 active

[tacit tulip]

If i didn't need ruby cards I'dabsolutely do that

[fast grail]

so yeah. if someone never manually claims, and doesnt care about shinies, technically 7 days are better

[rich epoch]

I wanna know how much I can delay getting traps but it would still be better than using higher duration traps. I'll be free next weekend and it is one of the things I will try to figure out

[paper sail]

Hmm, that's a fair point I suppose. How are card quantities generated? Per placed trap, like shinies?

[fast grail]

oh actual yeah that to, per trap collected iirc

[paper sail]

The only critter card I care about now is Bunny and I will probably just cardify it

[signal osprey]

No multikill sounds like a wonderful mechanic to randomly add to mobs when trying to superchow

[rough wasp]

[tacit tulip]

can't be worse than equinox schow

[rich epoch]

could have the mechanics only before unlocking the next portal or till you get to the end of the world or something

or you upgrade something in some skill

we're getting the automation shack or whatever with farming

afterall

[tacit tulip]

I'd kinda like to see w8 have shared progression but each class can only clear one map

so you have to use every class to get everything 😄

[rich epoch]

*the QoL handy tool thingy #💖future-content-blog message

[fast grail]

I just want hourly bubbles to be automated

[tacit tulip]

you can have it but only if you have doot

[rich epoch]

just buy the handyman upgrade with sever save magic beans

[rich epoch]

why? it is a twoot feature

[fast grail]

I have free doot so

[rich epoch]

maybe we get an upgrade to make the automation arm actually work

[tacit tulip]

automation arm 6: it works now

[rich epoch]

that is basically what I'm expecting of the handyman tools

[fast grail]

lava has said multiple times that automation arm is working as intended

[rich epoch]

fixes that should have been in the game locked behind progress

[signal osprey]

Yeah the auto arm isnt bugged

[rich epoch]

that is better than not having them at all

[signal osprey]

Its just not designed in a way thats useful

[rich epoch]

I never said it was bugged. I said I wanted it to actually work

which means be actually useful

but I find it very hard to believe that he actually designed it to be an useless upgrade but idk

[signal osprey]

Well no the way the auto arm itself is designed would make it very useful in theory

The problem isnt the auto arm itself but the mechanics it affects

[barren otter]

I like auto arm

[paper sail]

I like some aspects of auto arm

[rich epoch]

yeah what I meant is that lava wanted it do to something because it would be useful, it didn't because of the way things are implemented without foresight, he isn't willing to make it work as it was actually thought of in the first place so it is working as he intended

[paper sail]

Just stop ever collecting anvil materials manually and it'll work 1% better Just also don't reach capacity.

[heavy moth]

Lost my spot on the LD of dmg QS here i come

[fast grail]

oh i assure you, im well past cap

[signal osprey]

Mans out here trying to farm cosmic candies with the star signs

[rich epoch]

are you trying to take top 1 on afk time to claim leaderboards?

[barren otter]

please free decuboi

he doesn't deserve this

[fast grail]

I am simply lazy

[signal osprey]

At least claim the DK

[barren otter]

decuboi suffers

[signal osprey]

All the con exp he is earning wont level him up until you claim him

[barren otter]

you dont get it contract

he's lazy

lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah but con

[barren otter]

[tacit tulip]

all those hourly omni procs gone too

[rich epoch]

claim and put them on the nothing island

[barren otter]

970 hours of breeding claimed

[fast grail]

There is actually a chance i get next pearler vials off these claims, 1 sec, will swap obols and actually claim

[rich epoch]

nothing island

[weak vector]

gz on level 2 vial

[hybrid spindle]

crystal or rando island?

[rich epoch]

crystal for exp on bad chars

[fast grail]

atoms

[tacit tulip]

those things have chunkier health than you think thought so make sure you enter with some damage

[rich epoch]

holy

[barren otter]

yo that's good

[hybrid spindle]

how long do those stacks? infinitely?

[rich epoch]

ships gonna go boon

[weak vector]

i hope your ships were set to purple chests

[rich epoch]

i've heard it is 7 days then it slows down. i haven't tested

[heavy moth]

those boats will go crazy if you got SB talent XD

[barren otter]

you cant just not show how many pearlers you got..

[weak vector]

or just use the SB talent actually

[rich epoch]

record the ships 👀

[hybrid spindle]

if I enter the crystal island, can i leave without them being gone when I reenter?

[barren otter]

wait a second

1775/970

[fast grail]

this char has bad dr

[barren otter]

[rich epoch]

666 golden ribs tho

[paper sail]

1 lucky lad

You probably guaranteed that

[fast grail]

It got filtered

[signal osprey]

Guaranteed drops always give 2 or more so that was just a lucky roll

[rough wasp]

[paper sail]

I meant to start filtering after 7 but already halfway to the next

[fast grail]

lmao no, one and done for me

[paper sail]

That's why you have bad DR

[signal osprey]

I have 3 and thats good enough

[fast grail]

oh shit, this sb was on his skilling setup

[signal osprey]

That explains the 2 pearlers per hour I guess

[rich epoch]

noob moment

[barren otter]

almost 1min keep going

[fast grail]

didnt get ss but 600 hours of refinery

[rough wasp]

Break day from nuggets

just clearing out

[barren otter]

I also took a break yesterday

[fast grail]

they are free for now

[paper sail]

Shit. I haven't seen this alert in months

[fierce oracle]

What do you define as break? Like, doing only 3h?

[pine yacht]

god I hate void bars...

[barren otter]

i only did 5Q...

[signal osprey]

I havent made nullo in what feels like months and not because of void bars

I ran out of purple salts with like 3 weeks left on its cycle

But I was also out of green too

[rough wasp]

[hybrid spindle]

you took the words out of my mouth ^^

[bold quiver]

@rough wasp how is your nugget going?

[rough wasp]

shit

[paper sail]

Oh, right. That's what happened to cause this lmao

[rough wasp]

gaming sucks

[rich epoch]

what the fuck even is the point of that tho?

greenstacking? 🤭

[paper sail]

Nervously preparing for when w6 armor needs 20k bars

[rough wasp]

on the bright side my shell is about to evo

[fast grail]

please no, just give us new bars and higher forge cap (oh wait, thats the new bars)

[rich epoch]

yeah I joked then thought of that then hoped you wouldn't say it

[signal osprey]

20k marble bars is gonna be easy compared to the 50k godshard bars we need that produce twice as slow as marble

[hybrid spindle]

Easy! I got a whole...300 of them 👀

[paper sail]

I just dropped 2 of those for Void ores instead. Hopefully that'll fix my void bars

[tacit tulip]

scoli on his way to the marble gstack

[signal osprey]

[fast grail]

If i really need them, will just 2 min claims on 3 archers

[hybrid spindle]

And so, copper vial is being pushed back once again ^^

[rich epoch]

what the fuck why do I have 2k of them. i just smelted some for slab

[paper sail]

2 at a time per slot

[tacit tulip]

hey I can reach 3 per slot

[paper sail]

[tacit tulip]

50% faster than scoli 😎

[paper sail]

I am humiliated

[fast grail]

oh shit, i can too

[rough wasp]

The only thing ill be on the leaderboard soon planted picked

[paper sail]

😦

https://tenor.com/view/sad-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-the-office-nbc-gif-16114867

[rich epoch]

when I'm on vacation I'm gonna finish rewatching hxh while 2m claming archers

[tacit tulip]

w2 pinchy: Buy forge capacity in arcade

back to early w5

[rich epoch]

i'll give into the madness

[paper sail]

If only it was avaiable right now

[tacit tulip]

I've been wasting all mine on critters 😄

[lapis mesa]

wait, this is an accomplishment? go me! i want a sticker

[rich epoch]

buy tab 1 talent points

[fierce oracle]

Forgot to take my BB off of equinox before going to sleep

[hybrid spindle]

Sir, yes sir!

that might just be the best bonus in the game

[rich epoch]

absolutely

[thin rose]

It's almost as if talent bubbles exist

[signal osprey]

Surely forge cap will be back in the next arcade rotation

[thin rose]

Also afk gains

[signal osprey]

The afk doesnt scale very well though

[fallen torrent]

Good morning everone

[rough wasp]

afk is afk

[fallen torrent]

wanted to Clammy card farm and pearl overnight. pc did update an hour after i left for bed. -.-

[rough wasp]

mine did that 2 nights ago

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure my samples will improve more with the base stats than they would from investing more balls in the afk gains

[fallen torrent]

how you doing contract

[signal osprey]

I'll be doing much better after another cup of coffee. How are you?

[fallen torrent]

shhhh.. i havent had my first one. dont talk to loud pls

xD

[heavy moth]

any quick tips to hit 8Q dmg

[calm steeple]

alchemy 👍

[signal osprey]

You dont have kebabs on

[heavy moth]

omg you are so right

[fallen torrent]

cant wait to resample as well

[ocean fox]

So 400k copper bars per hour time candy
Gonna take me roughly 2500
Time candy to max my copper vial does that sound about right?? Or am I missing slmetbing

[fallen torrent]

2 min claim at Gmush can also work xD

[boreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-alchemy-gif-5324352

[fallen torrent]

give away your sanity

[signal osprey]

Yeah that sounds about right

[noble sable]

Git gud

[ocean fox]

I mean that's still 2500 2 minute claims my mind will melt

[rough wasp]

2 min claims are pretty chill ngl

[signal osprey]

Forging sucks and theres not much we can really do about it

[ocean fox]

And then even more for iron

[teal lynx]

Do 1 min claims on Equinox Ram

Half the time you need, but do it twice as often

[heavy moth]

good lord that make such a dif

how much percent your stack give knowing you farm colo 2

[heavy moth]

damn thats twice mine XD ill need to start farming those

[signal osprey]

I want to get it to 100% but thats going to be very difficult

[teal lynx]

At 14k kebabs I already get 59.4%

[heavy moth]

yea i only got 2.5K XD

[signal osprey]

Yeah I can do like 100 W2 colos and get at most 1% more damage from the kebabs now

[rough wasp]

not enough forge prog I’m wek

[fallen torrent]

W2 colo soon for me

saving up tickets

[signal osprey]

I've been very lazy with colo lately. I havent even been farming the tickets

[fallen torrent]

didnt farm em neither, i just got the dailies one

[rough wasp]

Contact taking his break

[paper sail]

Yeah, me either "lately"

[signal osprey]

Yeah the new WoW game mode dropped and I've been going too hard at that to do much in idleon beyond just daily maintenance

[paper sail]

You probably play a warrior, don't you?

[signal osprey]

What gave it away?

[paper sail]

Stinky

[signal osprey]

Its fairly new for me. When classic originally dropped a mained a priest from start to finish

[paper sail]

Wait, am I actually right? I was just shitposting

[rich epoch]

gross

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm playing warrior right now lol

[paper sail]

I started as Priest, tried Warlock, fell in love with Druid by the end of Vanilla. Swapped to Paladin in BC and beyond though.

[rich epoch]

I miss playing druid tank and out dpsing the world

[paper sail]

some new expansion problems, I see

[signal osprey]

I quit pretty early in BC because most of the guild I was with in classic didnt play so I lost interest pretty quickly

[heavy moth]

do you guys keep those ? i got a gold twine ptsd

[rich epoch]

I also miss doing world bosses and having the companion out DPS the universe

[signal osprey]

But my priest did get scarab lord in classic so that was pretty cool

[hybrid spindle]

i only keep gold/plat

[rich epoch]

only plat and portal

[paper sail]

Cowards

[lavish cloak]

what the heck is this? is this a consumed charge?

[rich epoch]

nice missingno's

[signal osprey]

The rando boss that spawns on the island each week has an X% chance to spawn as two bosses with that upgrade

[hybrid spindle]

so i can get 2x nothing? gotcha!

[paper sail]

2x Food Lust stacks and 8 trash

[rich epoch]

a chance of 2x nothing

[lavish cloak]

that sounds like something to work towards. is it a permanent buff?

[signal osprey]

Afaik its permanent. Would be kinda bad if it wasnt

[lavish cloak]

i could see them all being charge-based. "oh look, you got loot off a event boss you haven't gotten yet. time to reset drop chance upgrades"

[signal osprey]

Overall I think the rando buffs are pretty good. They've got me up to 4 glacial obols now

Time to start working on personal pages

[signal osprey]

I've gotten drops after buying upgrades and they havent reset

[ornate zinc]

am i just confused or how does the math here work

because i feel like it should be higher

[signal osprey]

And speaking of the double boss

[hybrid spindle]

so now you're a twin murderer? 👀

[signal osprey]

I do what must be done

[ornate zinc]

so thats the formula? thanks

[paper sail]

It gets pretty beeg later, trust

[glacial venture]

and lvl 133 meals is basicly...just starting out^^

[ocean lily]

Alrighty here's a big Q: Im account lvl 4550 or so and just got Doot. I swear it's like starting new game+. Is there like an "order of operations" to apply all these bonuses or is everything just live now ?

[rough wasp]

Scoli used some ladles?

[glacial venture]

make sure you link purrmeep

[paper sail]

lv2 div on all characters, link your highest div level to Purrmep.

[paper sail]

some wat

[rough wasp]

Ladles

it autocorrected somehow

[ocean lily]

everyone is ~80+ divinity with one around 110; is it relevant to start getting god levels now?

[paper sail]

Used a couple ladles, yeah. Still at 35k with 24hrs unclaimed

[elfin cape]

Massive skill issue, tbh

Clearly, a D3 player

[fierce oracle]

your fault I was so sleepy

[ocean lily]

So with doot, I can set the highest level divinity style I've got, and because they're "in lab", they're also "in divinity" and I don't need to use tranqi anymore?

[fierce oracle]

had to carry you and it made me postpone my colos

you owe me 6 hours

[paper sail]

Still gotta use TranQi. Bear and Goat have never worked together like that. You must claim actual Lab AFK gains to get Divinity gains too.

[elfin cape]

[ocean lily]

I figured that would be asking too much lol.

[brazen cliff]

Almost miss my years of ffxi. Almost.

[narrow vapor]

is w5 reachable without alchemy?

[rough wasp]

Yes

Well, low alchemy

[narrow vapor]

no, not low alchemy

alchemy=0 I mean

[rough wasp]

Sure

[lyric sequoia]

Make an account and find out

[rough wasp]

Idk why u would do that to urself

[paper sail]

Takes a long time, but yeah sure

[rough wasp]

Not like going to w5 is hard

[paper sail]

We saw someone doing a no-skills challenge not that long ago.. Can't remember their name now 🤔

[narrow vapor]

I was just curious how important alchemy is and if you can't reach further worlds without it

[paper sail]

Reach? Sure. Excel? No

[lyric sequoia]

Unlocking a world isn’t really a scale that has any real value

[paper sail]

Unless you are specifically doing a challenge run, do your alchemy. It is 99% of your overall account progress.

[lyric sequoia]

You can brute force unlocking a world so insanely easily via enough afking

[brazen cliff]

Alchemy is a major artery, w5 is just another limb.

[narrow vapor]

like actually 99%?

[paper sail]

Alchemy is the infinite part of this game, yes

[narrow vapor]

aren't most parts infinite?

[paper sail]

No

[fast grail]

Only alchemy is eternal

[narrow vapor]

like leveling up for stat points is infinite, right?

[fast grail]

everything else capped in some way

[brazen cliff]

Most bubbles get pretty blah after 300.

[lyric sequoia]

I’m not advocating you do it at all, but there are ways you can make an account that is your current account but with none of the alchemy stuff unlocked so you can see how much you’ll lose

[hybrid spindle]

considering that you can get 100+ lvls/day through atoms alone, having bubbles at merely 300 sounds weird

[narrow vapor]

what are atoms

[brazen cliff]

At least in terms of dr

[lyric sequoia]

100 free atom levels a day is like, midgame stuff at best too

[paper sail]

Nobody with a sane brain is going to advocate skipping alchemy. If you came here trying to find someone to back you up on that, you're barking up the wrong tree 😛

[narrow vapor]

why did i just get a copper bar 1 role?

[loud flower]

What div lvl should I aim for? Are there any threshholds or something? I'm averaging ish-114 div on my chars

[paper sail]

I think 145 or 155? something way up there eventually allows for another +1 from Bear