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[thin rose]

Time to test your bot

[paper sail]

It has some stolen artwork now

Didn't get all of the images I wanted added, but the bulk at lest

[thin rose]

Bot told me I'm perfect

It's a hard life

[paper sail]

I had to make it tell me I wasn't perfect today

[swift rose]

I quit w3 with @rough wasp 😦

[thin rose]

Ducky still talks there tho

[swift rose]

Yea he's a two faced lying bitch

[thin rose]

Tbf we mainly talk In our friend server now

[humble wharf]

what happens if they both dont rolled?

[thin rose]

Nothing

[humble wharf]

oh tnx

[fallow aurora]

I hate harvest all... I misclicked on it

[rough wasp]

20 more

[reef comet]

Are the TD enemies that flash forward a lil with each hit supposed to just sprint across the platform with kraken eyes? I'm getting a lil annoyed with my runs being ended by my defensive towers making them go brrrr past all the dmg towers

[heavy moth]

first to 200 ?

[humble wharf]

greenstack this

[lilac path]

how can u sample this? im just dumb

[humble wharf]

use vman and during speedrun sample by top of tree

[lilac path]

ohhh thnx

[clear quartz]

oh yeah i should try to print frisbe

also, idk if its time for me to aim towards hourly clicks on other stuff yet, does scoli bot account for any stuff like that with the clac or is that just human preferences?

[lilac path]

just ur preference

[pale jay]

Hourly clicks are a method to make progress happen faster by manually boosting the more affordable stuff.
So preference, regardless of species.

[rough wasp]

Just a bit more

[humble wharf]

where is setjup 4 td?

[clear quartz]

gotcha. think maybe ill backburner the iron ores and goldfish and maybe do dementia and gold for awhile. eventually.

although im kinda thinking i need to print fish awhile for assorted stamps since that i think is my current big project i need to work on

fish and other drops im weak on, rather

[sick sentinel]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

[lilac path]

dumb question
is there a cap lv for any skill job?

[sick sentinel]

No

They keep getting longer and longer

[clear quartz]

i need to work on TD again

feel like i need to have better tower lvls and cooking tho first for that

still dont hae carpenter on atoms, i need to be less lazy with my nblb targets :c

[rich epoch]

I'm nblb bob into atom range

[sick sentinel]

You are?

Nice to meet you nblb Bob into atom range

[worn sonnet]

Weird name but okay

[rich epoch]

nice to meet you dad

funny meeting you here

[sick sentinel]

Been a while, all the stores have been out of milk

[rough wasp]

How many do you have rn?

[muted bramble]

personally a strong 95

[fallen torrent]

hocus pocus lv 1900 today so happy

[muted bramble]

working on nails ...

[lapis mesa]

bargain tag!!

[muted bramble]

bargain tag ?

[granite grove]

discount tags to 90%

[lapis mesa]

if

you can drop that to like.. 2.8 mil

[muted bramble]

SMART

[lapis mesa]

you can reasonalbly do 3-4 a day

[muted bramble]

dude i've been doing an upgrade every like2-3 days

[granite grove]

what, you arent using that until now?

[lapis mesa]

the cost does scale

i had to learn the hard way about using the tag to

[paper sail]

Is that cost you showed on a Mage?

[muted bramble]

big difference...

[paper sail]

If I remember correctly, you should hit atom range on Hocus around 150 if you swap to a non-mage

[muted bramble]

its on my SB

[granite grove]

oh no

you get way more discount if upgraded with respective class, mage for purple bubbles

[paper sail]

Well uh.. Hope you switched to a mage before buying that level then

[muted bramble]

big diff again ...

[granite grove]

[lapis mesa]

its helpful to be the offclass if youre almost at atom range to drive the cost up. otherwise, should totally use main class

[granite grove]

welcome to alchemy

[lapis mesa]

really wish the class specific thing was in some super bold letters somewhere, its not as obvious as wed hope

[proud pumice]

i think i need to make a spreadsheet to gather all materials i need for my gear upgrades

[granite grove]

IT has a planner for that iirc

[proud pumice]

oh true

[muted bramble]

back on my SB so ill active and wait for atoms and nails

[proud pumice]

ty

[sick sentinel]

In the tools part ye

[proud pumice]

i'm always missing the monster mats for the upgrades and then i just ignore it and go do something else

it's kinda funny how my kill per hour is higher on tremor wurms than on wood mushroom

it makes sense, but its also kinda funny

[paper sail]

It's time

wow that damage increase sucked

81.237 -> 81.405T

I was expecting a more significant bump

[snow light]

casually increases by 200B dmg which is more than all my characters do combined

[paper sail]

It do be like that

[humble wharf]

why in toewr defense lag be better?

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-meme-gif-27557281

[near tulip]

anyone know if the ES talent "wormhole emperor" stacks with multiple ES characters?

[paper sail]

No talents ever stack

[near tulip]

alighty, ty for answer

[proud pumice]

it stacks with the wormhole kills from both ES but not from the talent value, it's just highest

[stiff swan]

Do you get a better conversion rate for bigger stack?

[paper sail]

Nah, always the same ratio

[proud pumice]

its just high because its last island drop

[stiff swan]

Thanks got confused by the way you said it

[proud pumice]

last island drop is naturally worth more

[stiff swan]

Ye

[paper sail]

Ah, sorry. Just meant both a) the trade was available and b) I was around to notice it

[stiff swan]

True

[snow light]

is there a bug with large fish? can you not afk at large fish because everytime i afk there with my vman i get shown that my Vman is actually sitting at medium fish

[paper sail]

You're actually at Seasalt island, right?

[snow light]

yeah

[stiff swan]

not rly w5 q but for the arcade shop thing, is sample size and drop rate basically the best available upgrades?

[snow light]

and i make sure to fish up a couple fish before i leave cloudsave and close the game i mean

[sick sentinel]

Forge cap is good, base critters prob good too

[humble wharf]

how many gmush kills total?

[paper sail]

Weird. I dunno what would cause that then. I've never had issues with Large Fish fishing

[paper sail]

I thought that bonus was just total critters. Is it really base?

[paper sail]

Uhhh 300b or something?

[sick sentinel]

Idk I haven't read it in a while tbh

[snow light]

it fixed itself but i needed to go back and forth a bit before it stayed at large fish

[rich epoch]

it says just "trapping critters". I smell bonus critters

[sick sentinel]

Yee probably

[rich epoch]

don't wanna go check the wiki

[paper sail]

[rich epoch]

I shouldn't even be here. need to finish studying for a test tomorrow and I'm doing that like alchemy bubbles. 80% is enough

[snow light]

same here hachin i have a couple finals here in a couple days i should really not be here lol

[proud pumice]

well taking an 8/10 on an exam is indeed enough

[rich epoch]

I'm study 80% to get 4/10 and then get carried by homework

[proud pumice]

unless you're in one of those colleges where a part of the class always fails 🤢

what is the idleon homework to carry me to 1B samples?

[paper sail]

"Nobody can get an A in my class because nobody is perfect. I set the best test score to 89%"

[snow light]

i doubt a community college is going to fail a part of the class on purpose

[rich epoch]

#1174753262365315203

[rich epoch]

if I studied physics or math it would be exactly like that

[proud pumice]

so 80% is not enough

[rich epoch]

but it is not the case gladly

[snow light]

reminds me i gotta get my daily CC time in

[paper sail]

Daily CC

[rich epoch]

but a friend from physics always tells the story of how the teacher once graded his own answers for the text by mistake and only gave it a 7/10

another teacher may or may not have tried stabbing a student a few months back

fun times

[snow light]

i try to get a couple hours of daily CC in cause i am trying to get that 1m plunderous/1m orb/1m wormhole in

[muted bramble]

mine threw a chair a the student next to me

[paper sail]

Ah, okay. I thought you meant literally one CC each day.

[rich epoch]

look who's doing the bully now

[snow light]

no no im at that point where i get CC every 10-15 mins depending on how lucky i get with tentacleye

[paper sail]

I have a good teacher

[rich epoch]

how fast they grow

[proud pumice]

i'm currently only doing 1 to 3 daily CCs just to fill my atom and hourly clicks

[rough wasp]

why am i doing this to myself

[rich epoch]

my bad bubo is at 500 and I was supposed to move my chars around but I got everything reseted today and I don't have time for that

[rough wasp]

im doing 2min claims

[paper sail]

Every day, we stray further from Lava's light

[snow light]

i wanna take advantage of like 5-7 bargain tags a day i can get 3 full 90% ones before doing any CC

[rich epoch]

look it's boga

[proud pumice]

so much fun

[muted bramble]

boga ?

[snow light]

just as fun as cog clicker

[rough wasp]

im watching something so its just there

then i will do nugget clicking

[rich epoch]

sorry it is a joke only some very limited number of people will get

I can explain if you'd like 😛

[muted bramble]

I am a very limited person,

[snow light]

im not looking forward to doing chem chains in gaming like cog clicking...

[rich epoch]

don't

just pray and hope for a good nugget. same results, less effort

[paper sail]

is there anything I am forgetting before I snap these Cons obols and go to bed? 🤔

[snow light]

pray for that equinox dream to carry me

[rich epoch]

also it is 1am how I'll realistically get any more studying done

gringo times always confusing

[muted bramble]

lmao, i got 2 exams tomorrow

its 23h00, waking up in 5h to study and leave at 11h00 am 😄

[rich epoch]

let's all just keep shitposting here instead of studying m what could go wrong?

[snow light]

gl gl

[rich epoch]

and/or sleeping

who needs that

[muted bramble]

Good plan

[rich epoch]

scoli you go think of the baby

[muted bramble]

I'll just cheat

[paper sail]

3845m -> 4948m Almost 5b with the snap now

[rich epoch]

I never cheated.

skill issue

[muted bramble]

cheating is the real life way to accomplish everything

[proud pumice]

can i not just upgrade my wis bubble enough to understand everything?

[rich epoch]

I mean, when you'll gonna need to use your skills without being able to consult shit nowadays? we should be taught to use our resources better not to memorize shit the way teachers want

[rich epoch]

I wanna print gold IRL

[muted bramble]

its literaly memorize for 2h and wipe it to temporarly memorize another exam and wipe again

at the end of it all you barely remember anything

[proud pumice]

nah what would you be without memorizing 100 constants for a test

[rich epoch]

lmfao. yeah.

cheat away

(not financial advice)

[muted bramble]

I'm in finance

works either way

[paper sail]

(or relationship advice, I hope)

[granite warren]

Why must gaming be pain? lol

I dont really have any more multipliers to unlock outside of random chancing my nugget until I can get snail...

[rich epoch]

just never be in a relationship so you'll never have issues with cheating either way. easy

[paper sail]

👋 🧗 🛌

[muted bramble]

for Snail, is 80% good enough to gamble ?

[rich epoch]

by design

why is your bed down a hill

[paper sail]

so I can roll into it

5head

[rich epoch]

cannonball into it

[muted bramble]

[paper sail]

okay bye now

[barren otter]

wait

[patent hatch]

Two more vials and I can deposit my statues

Keen for that mega power boost

[wraith granite]

whats the most optimal route to go for in void trials?

[muted bramble]

is that to reach all vials ?

[granite grove]

vials mastery multiplies vial effect based on numbers vials maxed

and snake skin vial gives % chance for double statue deposit, so it can reach 100% chance with enough vials maxed

[snow light]

why stop at 100% why not go even further beyond

[rich epoch]

depends a lot on where your account progress is. there is the guide that you can get a look at but I couldn't follow it bwcuass I lacked too much damage. you can take some tips from that https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002

[muted bramble]

how many vials do you need to reach 100%

[rich epoch]

because it caps

[rich epoch]

27

[muted bramble]

so impossible got it ...

[snow light]

oh i didnt expect that i thought it would be like everything else in the game and give 2-3 statues like larrrrry bubble and stuff like that

[rich epoch]

uuuuh... 27 is easy.

[snow light]

27 is easy the hard part is to remember why you are saving up all those resources for me

[muted bramble]

isnt there like 28 total ?? with like rare drops ...

[wraith granite]

tyyy

[snow light]

im pretty sure that is more than 27

[muted bramble]

Nevermind im kinda dumb then

also why isnt Gshroom maxed ....

[snow light]

i keep spending it on 2nd bubble in all my couldrons to atom them and i finally got them all atomable

[rich epoch]

#achievement-pics message

[zinc torrent]

Did you find this on IE or IT .

[snow light]

i got this from IE

[zinc torrent]

Damn

[muted bramble]

thats me right now

[granite warren]

I mean both of them have this list, lol

[snow light]

the IT version

[rich epoch]

I should have stolen it and posted as mine

[granite warren]

Pssh, not maxed Bobjoepickle vial, not a real achievement

[snow light]

yeah and you even already have equinox vials maxed i havent even touched equinox vials cause i feel i have other more important vials to get print

[granite warren]

Marble and Shinyfin are crazy, idk what you are talking about, lol

Uggg, this is making me remember I need to resample soon...

[snow light]

i wanna focus my other ores first then ill move to shiny and fish is... a bottleneck for me tbh i know my fish should be miles ahead for where i am in the game so it hurts but it is the truth

[granite warren]

I mean I havnt resampled since before Equinox was released so... lol

[snow light]

current sample rate and i sampled a couple days ago so no artifact multi on these guys

[granite warren]

I capped at 14.3m on normal logs and let the artifact multi run all the way to my 3.4 cap at the moment... Was desperate for atoms at the time, but now I think I can sample large enough to not take too large of a hit

[snow light]

i dont wanna resample till i get the sample bubbles up a little more probably close to 250 i will resample cause my % based off HP and % based off MP is really really low for where i am in the game

[granite warren]

I stalled really hard on vertical progression, so I'm finally back to working on that again. Though it was mostly because I screwed over my salt production on accident and it took 2.5 months to fix

Walked into Tremor Wurms with 3x multikill, was funny

[snow light]

im still fixing my salts for perma uptime on salts which is a long long ways away for me

[granite warren]

I need 1 more level on green to reach perma uptime for me, I believe

[snow light]

good luck i need like 3 more levels of red to reach perma uptime and one more level in green to out pace there usage

[granite warren]

Finally about to hit growth cap on Red Salts, next level is the last one that it will increase

I want Construction Mastery so much, but Rift is a nightmare...

would speed up salts so much

Stalled on Rift 38 too, so just this one is the only wall

[snow light]

honestly same I am probably gonna push to vial mastery then stop till i get some more dmg across all my characters

[granite warren]

next 2 are just afk kills

[snow light]

if i can even get there i should say

yup im waiting on afk kills for rift 31

[granite warren]

Uggg, finally got enough clogs for my 3rd Soles of the Troll

Now the question becomes who do I put it on, lol

[snow light]

i straight upgrade my troll gear to magma cause that is how far behind on salts i am currently

[granite warren]

Nah, its pretty cut and dry, they go on my SB

[rough wasp]

oh shit

[granite warren]

I'm at about the same situation

Dang

1.5m holy

Plants go BRR

[muted bramble]

[granite warren]

Uggg my SB does about exactly half the damage I need it to for Rift38

Well ES could do it at least, but that is the only one I expected could...

[gaunt pawn]

is that with the rock on or off?

[rough wasp]

rock on lol

i doint even think Herus has 1.5m with it off

[patent hatch]

Yeah I will be resampling again in a few days to get some more materials done

I’ll be able to get to 32 vials hopefully in two weeks

[whole slate]

copper bars are easy why dont u have them at max?

[zealous niche]

There's a lot more in that which are easier to max than copper bars

[whole slate]

ik but like still

[zealous niche]

I thoroughly disagree with your statement copper bars are easy

[whole slate]

just use conveyor belt and ur kinda done alr

[zealous niche]

*With many many many many claims of archer mob farming

[snow light]

many many many 2 min SB claims...

heck throw BM there so you have a third why dont you

[foggy eagle]

Just unlocked W5, what is the meta for gaming skills on my DK? Should I respect out of symbols and redistribute my points to the 3 gaming skills?

[ornate zinc]

What sub class do i make my 3rd archer

[slender sandal]

symbols is very powerful but you only want to put points in multiples of 20 in it (the threshold for the next +1)

the whole bottom row is fine for gaming but you want the skill next to symbols with poinst in it too since it's an account wide buff based on number of kills with orb up (and dk active is strong so it should go up a lot)

[slender sandal]

most go with SB because it scales easily with movespeed/has good afk and BM is generally trash

[ornate zinc]

kk

[foggy eagle]

I had just changed to this, should I respec to have a bunch of levels on King of the Remembered for both my active and afk builds?

[young burrow]

bruh 60 in symbols of beyond is such a waste

just lvl ur es

[foggy eagle]

It was my dump stat before I was in W5 for gaming

[shy basin]

How long should i keep all my characters on div? I have arctic bear now, is it worth keeping everyone on div any longer or?

[young burrow]

i keep like 6 chars in lab(divinity) since i got to w5

want to reach 10 gods and move on

[shy basin]

Is it still worth it to go for all gods when i don't have doot? I guess to prepare for the future whenever i do get it?

[young burrow]

tbh if u have doot before unlocking gods its not useful at all at the beginning

i do it just for the es talent

but if you havent got him id unlock to that elephant perhaps and move on

so you could level lab and divinity and have bigger gains in the future

[sick orchid]

Does anyone have updated TD strategies?

[patent hatch]

Tips and tricks master list has them

[patent hatch]

If you just want to focus on gaming remove all points from the other tabs and max out the third from the bottom first

[foggy eagle]

Okay, thanks

[sacred verge]

90 more 😄

[zealous niche]

so close!

[sacred verge]

yup

2-3 more day i think

[zealous niche]

Still need to whip my grind time into shape 😦

[sacred verge]

mine is just 19k

[slender sandal]

that's more than enough lol

but more is always better too

[sacred verge]

i wish it was more 😛

[sacred verge]

is w3 shop the only source of this?

[junior arrow]

i believe so

[sacred verge]

damn

then i guess thats not gonna be greenstacked anytime soon

[junior arrow]

yea i still got 155days of daily shop buys for it. going to take a while

[sacred verge]

probably more like 200 for me

which is turn means its unlikely to happen 😛

crazy to think ive bothered buying it 64 times + the ones allrdy used which should be a few dailys aswell

my red salt Gs will be making up for it 😛

[keen jewel]

Is there a list somewhere of all the hidden chow/zow mobs? I'm missing like 5 of them

[left fossil]

Does this mob auto respawn? or is it just 1 time per Doot kill?

[rugged token]

respawns

[sacred verge]

IT

[left fossil]

From left to right: The Office, The Roots (candy able), Meel's Crypt, Mummy Memorial, Enuinox Valley (2min afk per time), Rift

If I wasn't so lazy, could have completed Office and Meel 2 years ago xD

[keen jewel]

Ah, my IT only shows blanks and zeros, must be a mobile thing

[rare portal]

Any build to fish the most krakens ?

Like the name of zip and how to get that zip

[sacred verge]

tips and tricks for fishing sample setups

[rare portal]

Nah like zips and balls

Isk whats the name of that

[left fossil]

Hmm think this is fairly recent, it used to be a lot of blanks for me as well

[sacred verge]

zips and balls?

[rare portal]

Like line to rell the fish and that ball next to hook

[sacred verge]

okay this is gonna sound complicated but i know what to do

are you ready?

[rare portal]

Ye

[sacred verge]

first step

go to tips and tricks

second step

search for fishing

third step (and final) find what youre looking for there

[rare portal]

Alr

[sacred verge]

if that dosent get you the information, search "idelon fishing sample" on YT

if its best for sample, its best for afk fishing

[rare portal]

How do u get that elephant ?

And that blue line if u know

[sacred verge]

blue is from w5

elephant i cant remember

elephant is from w2 iirc

wiki is your friend

[rare portal]

What mob at w5 ?

[sacred verge]

bro, head to wiki

this is stuff you can find out yourself in sub 1 min

[ornate zinc]

Why do some characters only require 1k kill per portal and oothers morein w3?

[teal lynx]

Portals should take the same kills for everyone. Have you maybe already killed some enemies without knowing? Due to random events for example

[ornate zinc]

No
Its for all enemies

[teal lynx]

You can also check the Card of the enemy to see if you already killed some on the specifc character

[ornate zinc]

Like

I enered all areas and they only required exactly 1k kills

And than i enter on another character
Also 1k

Than i enter on another
35k-

[teal lynx]

Hmm sounds weird

[ornate zinc]

Yeah

Thats why im confused

Let me test it on another character

Is there any list with the normal kill requirements of an area

[tacit tulip]

if you're fighting a mob and check the characer in IE it tells you the portal requirements

[ornate zinc]

Okay i dont know how but some why but some characters have exactly a specific amount of kill gained on every area-

[cunning summit]

i got this after being active for 2 minutes

[tacit tulip]

you're not the first person I've seen mention something like this, but I don't think a cause was ever found

Take it as free kills on a bunch of characters 😄

[ornate zinc]

Yay

I was confused cuz i wasnt even past this area yet had this many kills

[rugged token]

have you done w3 colo on that character at all?

still strange you'd have that amount of kills though even if you had

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's like something has set their portal requirements to 1k on a bunch of characters - your kills are calculated around those portal reqs so its given them the kills

Like I said, I have seen this before but I have absolutely no idea what would trigger it

And the user base for this is very small as a large portion will have already been deep into w4/5 when it happened

[rugged token]

yeah, i've never seen it until now. It's interesting pretty cool if you get it somehow

[tacit tulip]

have you entered equinox on your account yet? Maybe the mirror has some shenanigans with map unlocks in w3

[rugged token]

good point, has it been a more recent occurance?

[tacit tulip]

actually you know what, I can check that

my BM doesn't have bones unlocked

hmm nope

[ornate zinc]

It never worked on blood bones

For any

But i have entered equinox on 1 character
But this hapend after unlocking vman and doing speedrun

I just didnt notice than

[flat forge]

Hey, for maxing material vials, its best to jus let ES loose on the mobs? Or is there a better method, this shit is taking ages

[tacit tulip]

ES is viable - or you can take samples using Vman speedrun with the multikill talent

[rugged token]

It's far too obscure of a bug for people to be able to track how they caused it. Would need some giganerds to solve it. I'm pretty smoothbrain I just follow the paths laid out by other people

[flat forge]

I was thinking about the last one, it would probably speed it up a whole bunch

[ornate zinc]

Vman
Im sure

[flat forge]

Wasnt there a guide for vman samples?

[ornate zinc]

Wait nah

[tacit tulip]

vman at least shouldn't cause that. His skill generally only messes with his own kills, not others

[ornate zinc]

It hapend while i was getting vman

My maestro was the 1st to have that bug

[tacit tulip]

out of curiosity which character didn't get the portal bonus?

wonder if you made it afterit happened

[ornate zinc]

SB (5th)

[rugged token]

kill as many bosses during a speed run as you can and stack as much mob respawn% and fighting afk gains and multikill% as you can and make sure you have void radius active while taking mob samples

[tacit tulip]

welp.

[ornate zinc]

My 1st 4 haracters had the effect so far

Ill check on the others rn

[rugged token]

finally hit 21 snail this morning

[zinc torrent]

Congratulations

[ornate zinc]

Its only on all my characters BEFORE my vman

[tacit tulip]

your vman is char 6?

oh wait, 4?

[ornate zinc]

4

Yeah

[tacit tulip]

neat

[ornate zinc]

And only w3 and below

[tacit tulip]

Based on that I'd estimate the 1m+ kills in w1-3 quest might trigger it

and maybe only applies to chars before the vman

[ornate zinc]

I think that mightve been it

[tacit tulip]

These are my notes so far

All portals on basic paoth in w3 reduced to 1k kills to proceed
Personal kills/death note updated to match this data
Happened on some characters, but NOT all - eg character slot 5 (vman is slot 4)
Happened before vman unlocked, can't have been caused by speedrun
Equinox was unlocked on at least one character
Too many kills on later maps (nepeyes = 119k kills) for it to be caused by colo
Reported by 2+ players, not a one-off

[ornate zinc]

Like

They all end up with 1k kills before next portal

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's very specific

nepeyes doesn';t have a portal but it's 120k - so 119k adds up

My moneys on vman 1m quest but I've written my notes in case anyone else reports it

will compare next time I see it

[ornate zinc]

I remember vman already having the effect when needing to beat chaotic chizoar

Thats the 1st time i noticed it
Idk if it was there before

[tacit tulip]

oooh

maybe an assist to help him complete the quest

but hits any chars prior to him, too

[ornate zinc]

That could be it

[tacit tulip]

Would also explain not updating rams/bones too

[ornate zinc]

Wait let me check if i got kills on w2 areas

Cannot check

Have already gotten there

[tacit tulip]

it probably wouldn't be required either, as it's only the path to chiz that matters for the follow up quest

[raven fog]

What is a skill job

[raven fog]

How much does max wave effet this

[tacit tulip]

every 10 waves or so is about a 1.2x soul multiplier

[raven fog]

And how to get like a new max i have the equinx upgrade but still i struggle with the waves

[raven fog]

Oh

Ig than where is the big multiple at is it by leveling up my vman?

[tacit tulip]

higher waves is pretty much entirely about surviving long enough for equi to scale up and kill the mobs. The solution to surviving a long time is: More kraken levels in construction

Max wave, vman talent, and worship food is where it mostly comes from

[raven fog]

More kraken so more buld rate so alchemy

Oh god i have been ignoring that bubble

Ops

[teal lynx]

Ducky is at wave 140 for W5 TD. So pretty far already incase you wanna know

But that Vman Buff + Feasty Statues definitely add up to give huge amounts of souls

[hidden loom]

It farm gene is it the play to put everyone in the best gene map and cycle through them every 3min?

[teal lynx]

Every 2 minutes not 3. But If you really wanna farm Genes, then yes

[hidden loom]

kinda feel stagnant because I can't reach nutto

[warm wedge]

I've reached the point where I have finished most of my first row in building (except atom) do I spam level any tower while prioritizing Kraken/Poisonic/Lightning to start to get them to 50+ for the atom bonus?

[teal lynx]

I often hear people going by the requirements. So they look at all building and get them to xy value -> So every building to 100M -> Repeat to 1B and so on

I personally always upgrade those shrines with my trimmed slots. Not looking at the requirements

[rugged token]

that's pretty much what I do for the satisfaction and not for any particular reason

[warm wedge]

Maybe I should upgrade shrine yeah I haven't completed the 140 shrine level cloud yet

[teal lynx]

Upgrading Shrines just lowers the amount of time gate needed
And my TDs are already pretty solid (Towers going towards 70). So I can justify going for Shrines

I had my Poison on a trimmed slot for a long time

[warm wedge]

I am way earlier, I have 1 tower and it's lightning at 50, rest are under 50

[teal lynx]

That's why having Poison on a trimmed slot might be good for you

I would definitely not sleep on those Shrines. It looks like nothing, but reducing shrine times by even 20% is massive

[warm wedge]

Yeah currently have kraken poison lightning on trimmed and leveling freeze boulder party and void, last slot is free either finishing the last few level in the 1st row or upgrading 1 random shrine

[blissful hound]

whats the best way to complete mutton's 1m followers quest

[tacit tulip]

this is what I do - the idea is to level everything equally to maximise the bonusf rom rift mastery, increasing your build speed

it's probably better to level specific things

but I like number go bigger

[warm wedge]

I don't have construction mastery either, stuck at I think 38? The one with the regenerating monster

[ornate zinc]

Whats the best classes to do rift 3 with? (I think thats the one im on)

[teal lynx]

124 levels more while focusing on stuff is actually really decent. Might need to get some of those early ones leveled up

[teal lynx]

It would be nice knowing what the requirement is. I unfortunately don't remember Rift 3 :)

[teal lynx]

I get decent amount of that stuff by farming Crystals in W1 and W5. But I think technically ES is the fastest on specific mobs

[warm wedge]

Defeat all mob before they respawn on 3 character

if IT is to be believed

[teal lynx]

Oh good to know that IT has that

DK, ES without Portal Equipped and SB should be decent for that

[tacit tulip]

You want flag unequiped on SB too

or the coins are gonna revive them 😄

[ornate zinc]

Alright

Ty

[warm wedge]

Ngl, I realy like BB for these one

[tacit tulip]

Early rift challenges are largely talent level checks

[blissful hound]

ok tysm

[warm wedge]

Since all the mob run to him it's not that hard

[tacit tulip]

Yeah BB is pretty good due to the giant fire nuke

[tacit tulip]

Early rift is largely a talent check, late rift is largely a damage check. If you can't clear it, try the following:

1. More talent levels on skills that hit multiple mobs (DK shockwave, boomerang, statue? ES meteors, chain lightning)
2. Move movement speed so you can get to mobs quicker - try the 4 green MS potions

[ornate zinc]

I neat rift 3 and 4

Beat

Barely

Well
Rift 3 was barely
Rift 4 was easy

And now im stuck on rift 5 with only 2 characters being able to kill the giant monster

ES and SB have beaten the giant monster
The others just dont do enough dmg

[quiet pewter]

you can take time to think what you want to say before typing if you like

[tacit tulip]

I suffer from "pressing enter too much syndrome" too

It's not too bad if you run discord in compact mode

[tacit tulip]

Your other characters need some love then. talents that cause damage, gear etc

[rugged token]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-monkey-gif-21881306

no slow mode = no think just type and press enter

[quiet pewter]

ok

then

if that

how u

roll

[spice meadow]

Yaya! Good morning!

Question, is there any way to fasten up divinity exp gain? I want to get everyone to at least lvl 50; I already put the divinity exp stamp to lvl24 (rip money) and i am farming that card that gives more exp for divinity too

Besides that, what can i do?

[quiet pewter]

have you done the god blessings? i think some of those give div

[spice meadow]

Done it already, too

[quiet pewter]

div is kinda slow either way though

[teal lynx]

Do we know the exact dr you need for 100% chance on 4 Hour Time Candies in W2 Colo?

[rugged token]

biggie hours card for a higher chance at double exp

[spice meadow]

Yeah, i just need to get my bb to lvl 40 to get the passive divinity stile that gives exp and i'll eventually reach lvl 50

[spice meadow]

Genius, thank you

[clever narwhal]

Is there a difference in sailing artifact and ancient chance? Just got ancient arrowhead over last artifact (ashen urn) on island 4.

Think I'd rather have had ashen urn

[rugged token]

last i heard it was just whatever the rate of the drop is. although i'm not sure if it goes based on specifically drop table 13 or if it also accounts for the chance to roll drop table 13 as well as the table itself.

[clever narwhal]

On that note, is it worth spamming an island if there's only 1 artifact left? Or just move on an get it later

[tacit tulip]

The ancients are just rarer than the base forms

Worth grabbing a missing one if you can, initial buff is strongest for most of them

[ocean fox]

Is it worth grinding dungeons for keychains

[clever narwhal]

Yeah I'm missing the ashen urn, billcye tri and chilled yarn on islands 4 5 and 6.

Haven't unlocked island 7 yet, so I was wondering if I should go for that or spam islands 4 to 6 to get last artis there

Ashen urn sounds good, the other 2 not that much imo

[quiet pewter]

worth is subjective, but imo no

[spice meadow]

Besides the flurbos stats idk if its worth doing dungeons, parties are the bane of my existence

[teal lynx]

Ah so 1/50 (50x dr for 100%), but with 21x dr and 300 orb score it's a low chance of not rolling a 4 hour candy. Thanks

[cyan shuttle]

hello w5 chat

[quiet pewter]

hello mr pancake

[sick sentinel]

Hi pancake

[ocean fox]

I mean just soloing cause you can still get keychains without hh right?

[rugged token]

that's the part i'm not entirely sure about because even with like 19-20DR i get over 50% of the 4hr candies i should get at 1/50

[clever narwhal]

Flurbo items are pretty good (for me as an early w5) and the Flurbo stat upgrades are okay too. Keychains have some good ones but feel like more of a gamble and side gain

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah that's me currently at 21.13x dr. Just thought someone said they get 4 hour candies guaranteed on W2 Colo

[rugged token]

probably some orb DR stuff that i'm not too familar with how they calculate extra drops, someone else would have to have that in-depth knowlegde

[rugged token]

yeah i've also somewhat been trying to figure it out here and there but never found fully conclusive info on it. Could just be me not knowing exactly what to search for though.

it does seem like 20-25 DR is the range given how rare it is for me to go without getting 4hr candies even at like 17x dr and full orb on w2 colo

140 Citringes almost done

[slender sandal]

1 poison holy stall

[rugged token]

i've got 1 poison on the far left platform as well

30minutes~ for wave 140 so far

if i can handle the amount of enemy spawns on 150 i should have enough time to do 150

although that's not looking great with my krakens at .51 speed

[teal lynx]

What is your party level? At 65 Party I wasn't able to hit the poison on the left with all party towers

[rugged token]

think it's 70/70 for now

[tacit tulip]

at 300 orb it should just be 15 DR to guarantee a 4h candy (they're 1/60 not 1/50)

Obviously it doesn't quite work like that

[rugged token]

3rd/4th don't hit the poisonic iirc

nvm just the 4th party doesn't hit the far left poisonic

[teal lynx]

Hmm I won't try TD5 then (for 150/160). I want to fully hit that poison

[rugged token]

140 is looking like it's my limit for now, need higher level cannoli/towers

i'm almost there though, shouldn't take too much more in the grand scheme of TD progress

+10 max waves though i'm happy with that

[pearl cedar]

10 Luckier lads done

[slender sandal]

don't forget 11 and 12 since we're definitely getting more character slots soon

[reef comet]

I think i might cry, I just got doot from the weekly pet-

[rugged token]

finally broke 1b br on exp cog setup

[vagrant mountain]

65 more

[rugged token]

Luckiest Lad

[vagrant mountain]

if we get another row of inventory tabs then it would be 150

[severe widget]

do people use the kruk upgrade stones?

[tacit tulip]

Congrats, I hate you! 😄

[rugged token]

for mega min/maxing yes, I don't recommend it unless you want to burn out quickly or are crazy enough to min/max that hard

[tacit tulip]

For the most part no. Use w5 for your main sets then consider kruks for repeat gear if you feel like making them

chances are w6 stones will be comparable...

Kruks are valid approach for stuff you can make a lot of tho, like stinger gloves for bubo shenanigans

[severe widget]

makes sense

was thinking for my dps gear i dont really need the main stats but the extra weapon power would be good? or am i mistaken

[rugged token]

the mainstat will scale harder then the weapon power the later you get

[severe widget]

cool makes sense. got lucky and made a chizoar helm with full kruk so can just enjoy the busted stats on my archer

[tacit tulip]

Weapon power used to be really strong but lava eventually nerfed the hell out of it

mainstat is basically more important always now

[severe widget]

was going off of this that it was good 😄

[tacit tulip]

[tacit tulip]

yeah, he never changed the description post nerf 😄

[weak vector]

does magma armor eventually outclass honker hat/goo galoshes for money?

[severe widget]

i just dumped a bunch of statues and my archers dps went up by 50% 👏🏽

[vagrant mountain]

yes because of the alchemy bubble

generally money bonuses from equipment is kinda bad

[tacit tulip]

not a bad increase

[weak vector]

i guess i'm not there yet bc goopi rings are still better than opals for me

alien logs are finally atomable for me thanks to gold relic so now i can hourly click

[vagrant mountain]

your money bonus is higher with goopi rings?

[weak vector]

yeah, i just checked on IT

[severe widget]

alchemy?

[vagrant mountain]

this bubble's bonus is multiplicative

so stats make your money go big

[viral snow]

When lvl 13 ?

[weak vector]

that's with wizard hat, violet flower and shovel nametag

[vagrant mountain]

all of the bonuses with asterisks are multiplicative, everything else is in the same pool

[prisma drift]

Here we go

1/3rd done with copper

I’m a lot faster on mobile than steam

[vagrant mountain]

how many candies

[prisma drift]

I’m at 1700

Started at 2100ish

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/whet-what-ew-can-you-not-stop-gif-9908266

[prisma drift]

I can use two fingers and almost insta close

Same with rolling Po tickets

[weak vector]

wish that button worked as intended

[prisma drift]

Mobile is just the fastest unless you are sus

[vagrant mountain]

i did most of these when I did my eclipses and I never finished it

[prisma drift]

Finish it with me

I think I’ll be short small candies for iron

I think I need another 300 or so 1 and 2 hours

Unless I wanna waste 4 hours

[vagrant mountain]

on steam you can just do Click > Enter/Space > I to open Inventory > Repeat

[tacit tulip]

I might go to 9

[weak vector]

I thought 9 would be harder, but i ended up getting a third of the way there rubying froges

[prisma drift]

Might be the same speed for pro pc gamers

[tacit tulip]

I'm going until I hit 500BM for now

[vagrant mountain]

ill do the bar vials tomorrow maybe

ill have this done and then I'm 53/55

[prisma drift]

Half way there

Not as bad as I thought tbh

I would have answered

[ocean fox]

What should my ES hot bar be for farming

Sorry for the reply lol

[prisma drift]

I don’t care about pings I have noti off

For ES don’t use ice shards or the light beam from tab 2

There’s not too set of a hot bar for ES like there is for bubo order wise

Some people do lightning first some do last

I havent noticed any real difference

[ocean fox]

I see
Currently I have wormhole lightning chainbilt meteor volcano and tornado

And the multikill buff one ofc

[prisma drift]

Sounds pretty good make sure not to use Midas

[vagrant mountain]

chads use teleport

just sayin

[prisma drift]

I don’t

[ocean fox]

Man im at 14.79 drop rate so close to 15

[prisma drift]

I remember when I was happy with 5DR

Peak idleon

[ocean fox]

Hmm if I'm farming cards should I be doubling my card drop cards idk if it's multiplicative or how much of a buff it actually is

[tacit tulip]

Yes, but

Card drop is calculated on map entry

so enter map with card set -> Swap to drop rate set

[ocean fox]

Huh

Neat

Gotcha thanks

[tacit tulip]

obviously if you afk you need the cards equipped still

but for active play you can absolutely do that

[ocean fox]

Ah yeah I'm just farming some cards with my ES since I'm only playing mobile and my bubo is nerfed on mobile for some reason

[tacit tulip]

Then yep, for mob cards go for it

[flat forge]

is this multiplicative or additive?

[sick sentinel]

Probably additive

[muted bramble]

should i 100% before rolling ?

[prisma drift]

And the suffering continues

Gonna burn down to a flat 10M oil gstack to relieve some suffering

[teal lynx]

But what you should be doing is getting the last upgrade in the atom collider! It saves your snail from getting reset every 5 levels

[hot dove]

Is the loss in exp really worth it for the royal sampler?

[teal lynx]

The XP Loss is not multiplicative. So if your xp is already 5x it would go down to 4.22x xp (going from my royal sampler value at lvl 17 -> -78%)

[hot dove]

Still feels painful but thanks for the help

[prisma drift]

I can finish iron if I use this

Only 2000 more to use

[cerulean heart]

What are the best Divine Orb levels with or without po box?

[prisma drift]

Without is like 308 I think

For the whole 150 timer

Might be a little less

[teal lynx]

With PO you want 267 and without everything above 300 is good

I'm sitting at 309 currently

[cerulean heart]

Okey, thanks! 🙂

[teal lynx]

Make sure all important Bubbles are in Atom Range already

Would suck to wait another 10 levels on some of those Bubbles

[past geyser]

Does anyone know if that Maui head artifact invalidates the lab bonus of putting shrines in towns?

[teal lynx]

With the Lab Bonus u can level up Shrines from anywhere in the respective World

[past geyser]

The Maui head seems to say the same thing though.. Says level them up still requires same map or world

Or am I misunderstanding it

[teal lynx]

Same map without the lab bonus
Same World with the lab bonus

[sick sentinel]

Lava has a tendency to poorly explain things

[weak vector]

Lab bonus's any map bonus still applies, but moai head doesn't allow you to level it up

[past geyser]

Ohhhh okay I see, I can't level them if I disable the lab bonus

But they still "work"

[teal lynx]

You can level them. If you afk on the map that they are placed in (Without the Lab Bonus)

[sick sentinel]

Yeah, still need lab node to level from same world

Bonuses would still be active

[past geyser]

Gotcha gotcha

I knew there had to be a catch, seemed weird to do the same thing

[prisma drift]

All bubbles are in atom range

[past geyser]

Thank you folks

[prisma drift]

I don’t atom quick slap so my minimum bubble level is decent

[teal lynx]

I still need to wait on Carpenter

[wide halo]

Time for bubble upgrades 🙏 hopefully my 20 mil bleach logs will cook

[sick sentinel]

What does atoming quick slap have to do with ur min bubbles lol

[prisma drift]

People neglect other bubbles because all they use atoms on is quickslap

Very common thing I see looking at newer peoples IE now a days

Way too high quick slap

[novel scarab]

looking for screen shot or guide for TD from w1-w5? only managed to found w1 tho?

[fading plover]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

[novel scarab]

no access. why is that?

[sick sentinel]

React with

#👀read-me

Damn autocorrect

[novel scarab]

thx 🙂

[pearl pebble]

how hard was this for u guys compared to w1 solo

[tacit tulip]

w2 is mostly a knowledge check

consider using vman for it instead of DK - the shockwave can screw you on certain levels and you can't switch it off

[sick sentinel]

Also rng to not get bugged rooms lol. Think I got it 1st or 2nd try tho

[signal osprey]

You can unequip your weapon and you wont shockwave

[tacit tulip]

God the big brain plays

[sick sentinel]

That's how I did it

[tacit tulip]

I just assumed I'd punch shockwaves out my hands

[signal osprey]

I think all the basic attack effects are coded based on weapon type so they dont work with weapons that arent native to that class

[sick sentinel]

I tried dk with bow when he first came out lol

[signal osprey]

For example my bubo has over 100% chance to hit twice on basic attacks yet he never does it

Because it only works with wands

[tacit tulip]

that makes a lot of sense when you consider the multi hit ones

BM punching 4 times with his fists 😄

[signal osprey]

The OG vman

[tacit tulip]

man it's a real shame BM is such trash. It's fun watching him fight in the background

[sick sentinel]

Wow 488 good one you

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's much quicker than I was expecting tbh

[sick sentinel]

20k gt?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

[signal osprey]

[tacit tulip]

I haven't done ES/SB2 yet but I wanted the family bonus at 500

[sick sentinel]

Nice, i need to get back on that. Sadly won't have my PC setup til early January so no active for me

[tacit tulip]

figured I could do my froges at the same time

[dim wind]

Pffffff.... 😂

[signal osprey]

Mine is all from pearls but unfortunately I ran out just shy of 500 lol

[sick sentinel]

Bb done?

[signal osprey]

The first one I class swapped. The second is only 481

[sick sentinel]

Smort

[signal osprey]

I'm not really pushing for 500 all very hard though until W6

Only reason I pearled BM was for fam bonuses before I sampled

[novel scarab]

What's Cannoli term in TD?

[signal osprey]

Cannoli is a cooking meal that gives bonus points earned in TD

[novel scarab]

thx

[paper sail]

Well damn.. That's like no increase over the last 5 days 😭 1848m -> 1906m

I thought 40 choppin levels by itself would contribute more than that

OH I'm missing my trophy

[heavy moth]

nice ill get to see the impact of that *** trohpy

[tacit tulip]

look at this guy still using his royal sampler

[paper sail]

I'll be taking it off when I really sample lol

I'm loving swapping between my lab in the DK and my ES and watching my efficiency change over and over. That's lovely

Changed literally nothing from last time

just took a trophy off another guy and reloaded lol

[weak vector]

I'm surprised you don't have enough sample rate for 90% without the prayer

[heavy moth]

that 11 mil from trophy ?

[paper sail]

k so! Trophy difference is 1916m -> 1988m @heavy moth

[heavy moth]

make more sens XD

[paper sail]

It must be an MP snap thing

[heavy moth]

nicee so close to 2B

[paper sail]

I do. Just testing, not ready to sample yet. Trying desparately for 2b lol

[heavy moth]

so with trophy 8.6T eff

[paper sail]

This is without any Goats

[heavy moth]

so the 2b is easy to get if you put all on goat i guess

[weak vector]

I also love how inaccurate IT is

[paper sail]

Did you change talent presets or something? Mine are all 100% accurate

[weak vector]

Nope, it's completely wrong for me. My non-DKs should be at 87% with +44% with prayer. But it thinks i have 76%

[paper sail]

My guess with the Goat AFK gains is 2148m and I need.. 2222.22m for 2b. Shit.

Hopefully with 5-6 more days of atoms, I can get over that hump. Or maybe I'll finally try MP snap

[weak vector]

proof btw

[tacit tulip]

honestly never seen IT be wrong on the printer stuff

Is IT showing your vial/stamp doublers as active?

That would approx match the difference

[paper sail]

Ahh, good call

[weak vector]

Yup, both are connected

is there anything on the vials tab that i should look for?

[tacit tulip]

the snowball one from w3

[paper sail]

Yellow12, and the Snowball vial

[weak vector]

hmm

it's blue like it's being doubled but the number isn't actually double

[paper sail]

That screenshot of your lab stuff looks like IE not IT

[weak vector]

that's IT tho

[tacit tulip]

yeah they just look the same

it's weird

[paper sail]

Weird. All my jewels are immediately in after the lab nodes and yours aren't is all

Screen size difference lol

[tacit tulip]

I'd check your other vials, probably none of them are showing doubled

And if so - try moving your lab guy close to that node. I wonder if equinox is showing up on the gems in IT but not activating the effect on the vials itself because it's normally out of range

[weak vector]

yeah it seems to be they're blue like they're being doubled but the numbers aren't showing the double. For stamps, they actually show the doubled effect.

[tacit tulip]

gonna see if I can replicate brb 😄

[uncut hull]

Give me fury

I need it bad

Every book feels like a waste

[tacit tulip]

right this is as far as I can get from the node with it still being active

[weak vector]

yup, it's an equi thing

[tacit tulip]

and it's now not showing the doubler 😄

can you tell I do a lot of bug testing in my line of work? 😄

[weak vector]

I'd be more pissed about losing all my samples to test this if it wasn't on my second SB

[tacit tulip]

tbh that's worth a bug report to the IT guy. That'll probably impact anything that's a vial

Might even work on the stamp node if you position it right too

[cobalt nymph]

is getting 1 divinity exp normal?

[tacit tulip]

Div is slow to scale up but also doesn't get oppresively hard to level up at the top end

[sterile bison]

I finally beat the darn nightmare boss on my second journeyman! So now I can get the scarf!

[tacit tulip]

compared to say, chopping

[rough wasp]

@teal lynx

[teal lynx]

Did u candy Quest items?

[pastel bramble]

wahhh so small for so much time

[rough wasp]

Just 1

Gonna candy the next ones

[teal lynx]

I'm tempted to candy some quest items to get ahead of you. But I will just candy my Pearlers/Shrines

[cobalt nymph]

what should i buy form the world 5 gem shop

[rough wasp]

What're you at now?

[teal lynx]

Still 181

[rough wasp]

[cerulean hemlock]

They're called Pengi?
Not Pengu?

[teal lynx]

I don't have that ready right now. But I still got like 4 Crafting Items and 5 Quest Items

[rough wasp]

Pingy

[cerulean hemlock]

Ah

[rugged token]

Pengee

got my mining minigame score up another 2 points at this rate i'll have the 103 point achievement in like 23 more weeks

[proud pumice]

poingy

[rich epoch]

noob portal moment

[spice meadow]

Construction arm really makes a diference, right?

[lilac bolt]

can i evolve them?

[clear quartz]

ooo boy gotta hope i dont get reset again this time

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

[cerulean hemlock]

Just sit and wait!

This isn't like pokemon where you grind them for exp 😉

[cerulean hemlock]

It's depressing

[spice meadow]

You probably forgot you dint have it unlocked yet lol

[pastel bramble]

yes they go up further

[cerulean hemlock]

I didn't 😉

I did it on purpose, since...
Everything else I do won't help the soon-to-be ES

This is the account after I lost my email

[spice meadow]

[spice meadow]

Idk how youre still playing

[cerulean hemlock]

It's 20 days old now, if I recall

[spice meadow]

But your progress is going fast at least

[lilac bolt]

i guess it will take a long time

[cerulean hemlock]

Yeah, need it for my guide 💪

[cerulean hemlock]

One day, most likely

[eternal wasp]

Pick them as you get

[cerulean hemlock]

The one card I can farm atm

[lilac bolt]

and 5 evolution i guess not for now

[tacit tulip]

get ahead of the game and pre-ruby it 😄

[hollow gazelle]

[paper sail]

Didn't take too long to Ruby his card

So long as you have the quest available

[tacit tulip]

it's a surprising amount of clicking, but very easy

[vocal warren]

What's the best map for cranium cooking?

[paper sail]

Tremor > Citringes > Moltis > Floms > Cans

[vocal warren]

Thanks!

[cerulean hemlock]

I will! 🫡

[paper sail]

I hate this little pig

[hollow gazelle]

[quiet pewter]

just finished onyx statues! 🥳

[paper sail]

[peak bison]

I still dont have a idea how to grind power statues

[slender sandal]

beans

[quiet pewter]

isnt power just dk at beans?

[dim wind]

yep

with crystal spawn cards

[paper sail]

Assuming you have Chocco Chip, yeah

[tacit tulip]

1. Max crystal chance
2. Max drop rate
3. DK (orb works on crsytals)
4. A map DK is good on (beans)
5. choco chip if you have it

[quiet pewter]

power is fine, fishing turned out to be the biggest pain

[peak bison]

This the bad part, I dont have chocco chip

[tacit tulip]

choco is due in a couple weeks

[quiet pewter]

i think its rotating in soon, so start saving up the components (pinion spurs i think?)

[tacit tulip]

get saving

[peak bison]

No cheese too
Have 200K slur things
dock spices
but dont have fricking cheese

[quiet pewter]

well looks like youve got a clear goal in the game then

[paper sail]

Don't forget Ladles give time toward new recipes

[hushed sequoia]

Question about cogs: is the %boost construct player xp multiplative as opposed to additive such as normal cogs?

[peak bison]

When will it come closest after December 27?

[paper sail]

Directionals are much stronger than non-directional boosts, yes

[quiet pewter]

choco chip is like a x4 multipliers of the drops you get from cystals

[tacit tulip]

it's additive to its own type but multiplicative to the additive ones

[paper sail]

Strong enough to be worth prioritizing them around your DK on the board 👍

[hushed sequoia]

Also better than +% build rate? Or

[tacit tulip]

EXP is everything

[hushed sequoia]

Still, thought the extra build speed was great as well

[paper sail]

Since Carpenter gives build SPEED (not just rate), you just wanna pump levels as much as possible

[tacit tulip]

you'd get more build speed now but less later, as you're levelling slower

[quiet pewter]

short term its good, but long term the leveling far outpaces it, so thats why exp is favoured

[paper sail]

Build Speed gives all 3 stats: EXP, Build Rate, and Flaggy too

[quiet pewter]

stabby mcguy XD

[hushed sequoia]

Damn

So should have focused on both my squires instead of just one...?

All himself

[quiet pewter]

you should have two squire on it yeah. i neglected to doo this, but turns out they catch up super facst because levling is exponential

[tacit tulip]

yeah, there's a benefit to having both on the board

If you play active on a DK there's a bug where it gets less exp

so you want both so one levels at full speed

[quiet pewter]

also having 2 is baiscally a straight up x2 multiplier

[hushed sequoia]

Ah he is only 80 levels anyways

Behind*

[tacit tulip]

if you look at scoli's screenshot here you can see his silver cogs are more weighted on the right. This is their second DK which they don't use - so it levels faster

[paper sail]

They catch up fast, yeah

[hushed sequoia]

:0

[quiet pewter]

i wonder if the number ever goes to k or M, or is always just a long ass number

[paper sail]

I've only seen it be a long ass number lol

[hushed sequoia]

Whats your total build rate scoli?

[paper sail]

Pretty bad right now, on a mage but

almost 5b in full proper setup

[quiet pewter]

i mean, thats alright

[hushed sequoia]

Damn, thats bad indeed 😂

[paper sail]

that's proper setup

this is on a mage

[tacit tulip]

the other long term note is the bob bubble, the higher you get this the more you level. Mines pretty poor on the grand scheme of things.

[hushed sequoia]

7.33k% as well is insane. I still have loads of cogs at minimum 64% xp boost

[quiet pewter]

have you been introduced to the fun mini game called cog clicker?

[tacit tulip]

I'm refusing to level bob until scoli's bot is sated

[paper sail]

I haven't got clicked basically since Equinox came out. My minimum non-directional looks to be 113% now

[hushed sequoia]

is that where you put both squires on the cog board?

[paper sail]

Well hot damn

[quiet pewter]

instant production, rapid fire deletion till you get somethign good

[hushed sequoia]

Hated that and only did some. Is it easier on pc?

[quiet pewter]

sucks less on pc yeah, but if your willing to put 15min in it will up your cogs a lot

[hushed sequoia]

Allright brb

[quiet pewter]

lol good luck

[paper sail]

I don't move my squires to the cog slots tbh. I'll forget to move them back 🤪

[quiet pewter]

hes prob gone already, but before and after on the xp% if you can be bothered would be cool @hushed sequoia

[paper sail]

30 minutes later, still on this stupid pig's quest line

[prisma drift]

I’m almost free

[quiet pewter]

i mean at your stage it prob doesnt matter cause anyone can insta-cog. but helps a lot at lower levels

[paper sail]

Still makes a big difference. I generate 3-4 per second instead of 1 per second if I actually move my dks

But the loss from forgetting my dks there for a month isn't worth it 😂

[candid robin]

what channel is the pinned tower defense in?

[tacit tulip]

it's inendgame

[candid robin]

ty

[tacit tulip]

you'll need to grab the role from the readme

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496 tips n tricks

[candid robin]

#1084911530417606656

[paper sail]

Imagine all the Hocus Choppus clicks you could have had if you didn't ignore anvil points

[candid robin]

I dont see the spreadsheet for setups there?

[tacit tulip]

ohh you mean the older guides

[paper sail]

I assumed you were talking about the newest, highest level guides

If you want the janky old 2+ year out of date stuff, sure, it is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[candid robin]

yea the setups to get the highest score/lvl

ty

[paper sail]

This is what you're looking for in the pinned message in the Guide Masterlist then

[quiet pewter]

do you have a IE? im trying to work out if im missing anything i should be pushing on stamps/alchemy, would be cool to see what you been pushing since you are very knowledgable on the game

[paper sail]

They're aren't in a spreadsheet, just abunch of loose posts linked

[broken plaza]

Any good guides on the lava skull rifts?

[paper sail]

Non-DK on auto. You'll get it eventually

[broken plaza]

👍

[paper sail]

You're basically trying to get like 8 coinflips in a row to be heads, very rng

I've seen the party points get to 9.5k+ three different times now. Please, just release me

[quiet pewter]

you trying to do it on auto or something?

lol gl

[paper sail]

every other character has cleared it in ~5 minutes

this one just taking forever by comparison

[quiet pewter]

what class is it

[paper sail]

ES

[quiet pewter]

just luck i guess, since he will be nuking the whole screen

[tacit tulip]

#💖future-content-blog message

lava still using void gear

[sacred verge]

hat premiumifier

[tacit tulip]

It's funnier to think it's real tho

[sacred verge]

he just loves the look of void

most likely it is

[quiet pewter]

ah shit just realised i havnt emptied the equinox bar in days, seem to keep forgetting to check on that for some reason

[sacred verge]

been there myself

[drifting breach]

When yall think w6 is coming

[quiet pewter]

what stamps are good to keep pushing, assuming ive leveled all the easy stuff?

[quiet pewter]

4

[prisma drift]

I didn’t even claim anvil a single time

[paper sail]

Disgusting

[drifting breach]

4 what

[prisma drift]

Not once in all 7000 hours of candy I spent today

[quiet pewter]

units of time

[paper sail]

Horrible, sick, nasty

[prisma drift]

Also charge

I let that stay full too

But anyways

[paper sail]

You're the worst

Bet you filtered mushcaps too

[prisma drift]

Freedom

[drifting breach]

I would actually like to know an est of sorts

[clear quartz]

i forgot about dre anvil when doing my candying

[prisma drift]

Can’t spam 50 candies at once without filtering everything

[paper sail]

Sure but

You literally just gave away 75% of your profit

so..

who is the real winner?

[quiet pewter]

23 december 2023 plus or minus 30 days

[prisma drift]

I also cut the time it would have taken down to like 1/10th lol

[drifting breach]

Actually or am I being played like a fiddle

[prisma drift]

So I’m still saying it’s a W

[quiet pewter]

4 real

wrong person, but hoggindaz can keep the approval

[prisma drift]

Next thing you’re gonna tell me is you candy birch logs to click bubble

[paper sail]

Nah, not yet

But

I got 150ish levels on Hocus when I did my iron bar vial

[prisma drift]

Too good for me I am a noob

[paper sail]

and uhh 400-500ish on bubble2

plus finished red soul vial

[prisma drift]

Yeah definitely lost a week of atom clicks

[paper sail]

plus leveled up the red soul stamp

[prisma drift]

But soul vials are done

[quiet pewter]

what stamps are worth it to keep pushing?

[prisma drift]

So just slacking on the w5 soul stamp

[paper sail]

Crystallin, Multitool, Mason Jar, Golden Apple, Potion

[quiet pewter]

thanks!

[prisma drift]

Overall I take my sanity over the 1000 extra bubble levels