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Trading was promised when pets were released but there have been no further updates saying it's actually happening or in the works.
I think its safe to say its not coming any time soon
nfts 
It won't come 
Assuming it ever happens at all
Sad ๐ been saving my good dupes just in case
If trading was ever added to the game then the game would be flooded with blackmarket doots
As it should be
Yeah the idea of trading was based on lavas assumption that server side meant safe
But server side means harder to cheat not impossible to cheat
guys my main is a elemental and i have 23mil max dmg but ive seen ppl with less gear with like 200mil dmg what do they have that i dont?
Alvin probably has 700 doots 
Alchemy, stamps, statues
plus it would be ass to deal with the added security needed because of the incentive to steal accounts
Artifacts
i mean alchemy is that powerful?
ive already leveld up a ton of them
Infinitely so, yes.
Alchemy is the entire game
but still little dmg
you can get infinite stats with alchemy
You don't really need it to get/beat normal kattle tho tbf
that is infinite damage
I suspect you've not actually leveled your alchemy up "a ton" in the same way some other players use the term.
hmm
there are people with more grind time levels than you have across all bubbles
well i guess im gonna focus on it then
rip
I've seen people in W5 with less total bubble levels than my bubble 1's not even just GT lol
this one was posted in the last like... half hour
and the stupid fact is i had this game over 2 years now but a dude that joined 6 month ago has better account then me
Midgame is an incredibly broad range of accounts in Idleon
ive been here for like ....4-5 months?
Is IE having issues at the moment? It's telling me that all my characters' worship is maxed out, but when I check in game I'm not at the cap.
skill issue
Yea it makes a huge difference- I think by this chatโs standards my alchemy is super underdeveloped but Iโm somewhere around 2bil damage even from that
You mean mine? 
Your alch isnt that bad

fair
it doesn't considered the sheep pet bubbles correctly
Some players keep the game open all the time and click in on it every hour. They'll get ahead much faster than people who are more passive in their gameplay, but both are valid ways of playing.
I am reformed 
gotcha
how much time do the different chemical plant levels skip
Tier squared
plus if you're having fun with the game it doesn't matter how much progress you get
im glad i have a life and i dont have to stare at the screen 24 hours of the day xD
Hmmm. Feels like I haven't seen this issue previously.
Did you like my bubbles Contract 
Everyone's gotta decide on their own priorities and what sparks joy, yeah.
What else am I meant to do during seminar ๐
They were 
Worship full means your ES Syphon ability will be completely filled when using it
yeah its always been an issue. Worship and anvil doesn't show properly on IE if gained through sheepie, worth equipping them manually for that
Contract doesnt believe me Xayayah 

ooor using it 
People be getting more dmg from one bubble here than I'm getting from the whole game
Correct
Clicking them gave me a shitton of samples 
Quickest slappers in the West
alchemy is that absurd of powerful
Yeah
Name I Guess master race
@teal lynx What GS are you at now? 
I'm an alchemy believer now 
Click your bubbles 
Iโll believe in alchemy when Iโve got any materials to spend- until then itโs a myth
How do you think you get materials
Ive just reached 100k prints 
Alchemy gives you the mats to level your alchemy
Yea but I donโt have any materials to level my alchemy so I canโt have any alchemy to level my alchemy
In the millions 
Do you just mean upgrade? Or is there a mechanic in completely unaware of
yea click=upgrade
You click the upgrade button
Aight good Id have been thrown it I had missed something like that
How do I invade into the mils of prints
Purple bubbles 1, 2 and 3 are the best place to start
181 I think. Lost an Anvil Mat cuz of the Lab Chip
remember to use speedfood when sampling
They all like 70-80s? I can't really level up the nails bubble
Waiting for liq to spam some more bleach log bubbles
Never stop with the bleach bubble. One of the best bubbles in the game 
Gotta catch up to you 
True maybe I should save up some books and like bring my lol to 160
FINALLY a 1m nugget
Yeah talent levels make a massive difference too in sampling
Yeah I'm still figuring out my anvil speed stuff surprisingly I don't have enough w1 mob drops to fully get all the points
ngl, I feel like by the time I finish the biggie hour GS, w6 will be out lol
to get a higher wormhole score on the rift, is it just straight dmg that needs to be increased?
Hammer Hammer is the biggest anvil speed buff right?
Thats fine. Its less about the GS itself and more about the candy and kebabs you get along the way. The GS was just an arbitrary goal I set that ended up being justified by equinox lol
Now what even is gs
Green stacks
Itโs not that bad, I just have to pay a bit more attention on spamming the waves than in w3 lol
The highest requirement is about 100-130b damage if I remember correctly. If you're above that and still failing, you need to book your attack-talents, possibly rearrange attacks on the bar, use the small platform on the left
ok. I'm at 192b right now only 48/60 killed
Which bubble specifically for worship?
maybe just more into talents
i need a new goal thats not called alchemy. without looking at my ie, tell me what to work on
Whats wrong with having alchemy be the goal
alchemy itself needs it own internal goals. i cant hourly click, occassionally i do chopping bubbles. but there are other things to focus on
it was that little platform that did it, thank you
Alchemy is always the goal though and it can be done while also doing other stuff too
i know, thats what im saying. i know i need to work on alchemy always and forever. id like someone else to name something other than alchemy that i can also look at.
Not to toot my own horn, but have you tried my AutoReview bot?
You should have ideas of what to work on then ๐
scoli
Sneaky hobbitses
you can reclaim the quest again for a bag if you complete the quest and immediately reclaim
4 D bags in 2 baba-yaga's
Interesting lol. I just.. completed it on all characters like a good kid
Why
i aint got the time...or consistancy...for that
He did it for skill efficiency 
for bubo time .. anyone have a setup for it ? like what skill to have on the bar ๐
http://puu.sh/JWsHB/a398ab0ae3.png one idiot left until full bag slots on all characters
beast master 250 complete as well, 2 to go
Is there a way to make forge not agonising?
spamming 1hr candies on SB
you can rotate 2 minute claims on SBs/BM but that's still agonising so it's either that or using 1 hr candies
May as well go to Equinox. You can do 1 minute claims that still give 2 minutes of progress.
the only issue with doing that is that you'd need enough mk tiers to be able to produce more then you would at gmush
W5 wave 50 td setup?
I just got to W5 and I don't understand the slab. I have currently 826 items and i know that it give some bonus but I still don't have any. Do I need to have a specific number of item before I start getting the bonuses?
True, fair point! I was able to cap out when I tried around uh 35-40k kills I think?
slab itself gives no buff, but some artifact gives buff based on slab progression
ok thanks
yeah, you'd at least need to get over half the amount you get at gmush for the 1 minute claims for them to be more efficient then 2 minute claims
Eh..
bars per claim is what i mean
Ah, bars okay lol
if you go for the 2min sb/bm thing.. they need "kill" or else it will not work ๐
but 35-40k kills/claim at equinox sounds about right for you to be getting like 15k+ish bars per claim scoli?
๐คท It fully smelted my ~29k ores
Depends on the type of bar of course for actual bar numbers
Is there a wall at wave 80 in Worship TD? all the guide say to wave 80 and then the next is for wave 130?
Moreso there was a new tower introduced, the Voidinator, around when 80 used to be the best we could reach. With that new tower, we instantly shot up 80 -> 130
yeah, either way if you can get around that amount of kills per claim it should be better then gmush from the limited testing i've done
tldr use the 130 setup
hmm maybe i should just try that in my runs
dont have the poison dude ranked more than one yet
Is that why I still can't get past wave 70
Then after 130, you need the new Equinox stall method and you can jump 130 to ~200ish
Not me not getting the alch go brr stamp after 5 days of palm tree farming
Probably. Void tower is OP a.f.
when should i swap boulder for poison?
Yeah I mean i mainly struggle against stun turrets rn without them I can probs reach high waves
When Poison is 20+
one day pancake will hit 140 in all towers and we'll see what's truly possible
When am I getting this stupid stamp 
Poison at 20 can usually replace Boulder in the 35-40 range. If you are really imbalanced with Boulder already at 50+, you may have to play it by ear.
Not me, using this as justification to not redo my waves after 130
i should upgrade my poison guy
Even with full Dr lmao
my boulder is 26 and poison at 1
The two most important are Poison and Kraken in totality
My boulder is like 15 but I can still reach like 50-70s
doubt
I believe in you. Keep pumping that bob bubble
just went from wave 40 in the w3 one and not im at 73 just placed a void
i would probably need bob 1000000000

no more healing is OP
Smoll 
all it'll take is another update where lava completely breaks a skill
maybe iman will have a similar bonus to cooking, for construction
if lava makes cons ultra easy and everyone catches up to me i quit
What the heck is iman
Itll still be really hard, just possible for the ultra deganged such as yourself ๐
I tho it'll be cman 
The datamined name placeholder is Infinilyte
Voidwalker was named Virtuoso before it came out though. Never know until it happens
Everyone catch Pancake
Damn, Ducky out for blood
he was a youtuber of 2021 that used cheats to show the unreleased things
then lava striked all his videos with copyright
i don't think medroso was the sole dataminer tho
i feel like we knew about iman/vman before he published his videos
well in 2021 he was the only one showing virtuoso, infinilyte and the godshard hatchet
on youtube at least
there were some with images
he actually used those classes tho
well at the end it wasn't a bad thing to strike the videos because some of them were too dangerous
for idleon
ummm do giant crystal giant mobs recover hp?
they shouldn't do, no
if your damage is low enough the hp bar might not even appear, though...
sucks that frosty lands always rounds down
if a cloudsave appears before you manage to kill a crystal mob, it recovers his health and give a bad drop
SB in w3 was causing issues with crystals earlier in the week
yes ฤฑsland
wdym round down, you need to entirely kill a wave before next appears to save the wave
so it's usually every 10
to save 80 you need to kill 80
Yeah, frosty is more like that because of how far away the start is
if you killed 79 before 80 spawned, that'd have been fine
well the higher you go the harder it is to kill a wave before next appears
so you'll just se multiplies of 10
did some noob math last night and it's like 20% more souls per 10 waves
forgot to post this before I logged off last night, almost full blues 

needed to carry the legacy of guidecakes
and we Stan for that
I wouldn't even dream of attempting it myself without a guide
The way of the guidemaker
I suspect most of the troubles people have with the guides is getting the kraken delay down
can't please the people with skill issues
if your kraken isnt high enough, no amount of party starters can get you down to 0.35
they just don't realise that's the problem
Higher cans than me 
think I got mine down to like 0.45 and I still posted some real nice scores
watch out I might start passing the rest of your account with my lazy man progress
ur guide trash
~~jk. ty for guides
~~
Me to me: Alright me, time to get up to at least 200 quests completed on these few characters
Me 20 minutes later: auoting ES at Wurms for some reason? What the hell happened
well, that made getting level 100 worship on all of my characters extremely easy. they all went from 85-100+ with like 4200 charge 
guess it's time to see if i'm able to get past 130 citringes
nevermind forgot I had shit to do for once in my life today 
cringe
extra cringe, have to get poked my needles
I was going to get that done this last weekend, but the wife had theirs Thursday and were feeling poopy still from it. Didn't want us both feeling poopy at the same time. This upcoming weekend now yay 
yeah, never fun to have to have the needle pokes. Goodluck with yours brother man
multikill helps to get rarer items?
anyone have a bubo setup ? ( spell in order) as now i feel like rasien dead. sometimes "wait" for like 2-3 sec befor casting
And technically, for clarity:
Drop Rate increases the chance for the item to drop in the first place. Items have pre-defined based quantities, usually 1, sometimes more.
Multikill increases the quantity that gets dropped, if it got dropped to begin with. (But again, MK only increases the top-left item and excludes world bosses)
?
What i shold buy (i dont have the atom generator)
MK increases the amount of Mongo Worm Slices dropped, but not Tremor Keys.
Do mentis work on sb talent for forge ?
ah so i wont do multikill skulls now if i want pop obols
Correct. At Gigafrogs, MK is only going to increase Bullfrog Horn drops.
Could you mean Mantis as in the Nobisect god? If so, yes, but only while AFK killing. If you active kill, only BASE kills count: No multikill, no KPK, no lab 2x, no Nobisect 2x.
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
the only issue I ever ran with your guides is my towers being too bad so I need to improvise some shit like adding more parties or adding more parties or adding more parties.
not even remotely the guide's fault 
been pumping levels even with trash towers tho 
I am excited to see better max wave numbers, but I wish there was more reward to it considering the amount of time/effort it takes
Me adding 2 extra parties and going full speed on them just to get to the kraken speed threshholds 
6 Parties compared to 4 Pancake needs
Yeah, doesnโt work for you = optimize for yourself lmao but some people donโt get that 
Show ur MSA Xayayah 
Oh ur doing it rn?
Spoiler: Atleast one of my TDs is higher than yours 
Impressive!
can't let ducky have a higher TD score than you..
why not
did lava fix the royal wurm quest for vman yet?
Iโm a good duck 
Town vendor 
I've heard conflicting information on the onyx statue quest / dropping statues to make onyx statues. Does it have to be done per character? If so, which parts? How many total power statues should I keep in mind?
you wanna finish the quest on every character for the kachow statues
you can redo the quest
but once a statue is onyx, its onyx for all
redo on other chars
Complete questline on 1 character gives you this Onyx tool. Dropping the Onyx tool on the statueman in w1 town ALLOWS YOU to then drop 20k stacks of any other statue to make it onyx-tier for the whole account.
As part of doing the questline, you must give up 20k power statues every single time. The benefit to doing this questline on multiple characters is that one of the rewards is Kachow Statues that are otherwise basically unfarmable.
Okay, so 20k power for the quest, 20k stack for onyx power, then 180k power (9x20k) for the other characters to get extra kachow statues. So 220k in total?
imb4 W6 crystals drops kachows
Only 200k total. The 20k you give up during the quest makes the Power Statue onyx-tier. The silly thing then is that the first 20k gives you benefit, and the remaining 180k don't ๐ฆ
You basically trade 200k power statues for 100k Kachow Statues by doing that quest 10x.
At 1:1.000.000.000 drop rate 
Understood. Thank you everyone. Gives me a better idea of what to work towards
well, better rate than we have now
plus we gonna get dr buffs so people gonna hit like 30 dr
Yeh any form of farmable kachow statue will be better than what we have now
absolutely
vman runs are watermarked right? I can't go backwards off a bad run
watermarked? idk what that means but once you use it, it goes on cd so no backing off
if that is what you mean
yeah you don't get a worse score if you do worse
oooh, that what you meant. yeah. It won't decrease
You get 1 try per 24h
it says "highest" and actually keeps the higher score. that is why you can take it easy when sampling during a run
lol i dunno why i said watermarked...I think it's called something else...basically the highest mark left by water, so the better you do it "remembers" your best score...cool ty
why would you sample during a run?
Because vman gets the crazy +multikill per tier ability
for monster mats vman is the absolute best because the aoe skill gets it so much mk that other classes can't even dream off
so you kill as many bosses as you can for better respawn rate, activate the skill and then sample
Respawn too
Very overlooked aspect
Hm, I hadn't considered coming back to a zone after killing the bosses.... Has to be done within the same run though, right?
I heard someone mention a way to kill the bosses without using keys during the speedruns, is that possible?
never heard of thst
I probably misunderstood what they were talking about then
you can save some when killing them for the sample run because killing the boss for respawn rate doesn't care about tier so it takes only one key
During a speedrun, why would you ever go with any higher tier boss anyway?
Oh! I had no idea
That'll give me a couple extra portals easily then. Good to know
I assume it only cares about the highest you do, so you can't do nightmare, and chaotic, and normal for extra?
Just realised I can skip straight to troll instead of crafting starfire for everyone oh my god
That's gonna save me at least some agony, aside from getting like 300k bars
and yeah it's only the one boss kill so you do nightmare
Still, at least 2-4 extra portals gives a lot of extra vman points
Technically it only cares about the FIRST you do, not the highest
Good to know
If you oopsy and do normal first, womp womp, 1 stack
can't do NM afterwards for 2 more
So my advice on that: Before you start your voidrun, tp to the boss maps, click on the entry, set the difficulty to NM beforehand
Good plan
even if I do the four other worlds daily tasks this number doesnt go up.... I am confusion
I know most equinox tasks don't make you redo things you've already done (like kill the dungeon bosses solo), but does the 15 chemical plants one work that way too? Or do I need 15 while that task is active?
Sadly, just a placeholder meme. It cannot be completed. The requirement is 69420
I am no longer in confusion, just a bit annoyed... lol
Time is really scary. I just realized it's already December 11 
At this point I don't think we get W6 by Christmas 
New Year New Beans
Ducky how did u go to 170 Frosty? 150 is already taking ages
Are u on my IE? 
I just look for TD scores and some bubles I haven't atomed yet
I just had Pancake layout till 170 where I switched to DPS mode at some point
took a while
Did u 100% copy it or used some extra parties?
I 100% copied it
i think unless we see a beta branch push really soon it's highly unlikely we get w6, maybe we get xmas event tossed in though
just what we need more candy 
Time to sell my 2 extra parties then 
we've not even see the initial bits of skill 3 - 0 chance we get it before christmas at this rate
please xmas event so i can get slab..
i have to travel late january so i'm expecting it to be then lol
Got 2 extra krakens instead of speed parties. My krakens went from ~0.38 to 0.54
I 100% trust you 
I will probably die at 160
Oh maybe u needed those speed parties 
150 just died. We will see how it goes
wait I thought our turrets were similar 
I'm free ๐
Now I gotta do more TD to beat Xayayah 
yea just clean up any remaining towers that arent lvl 20 yet
and if they're all lvl 20 you can just kinda chill till its time to setup dps for 170
2nd?
Herus pupper guide 
2nd whu
That's my main, but the other is already 501 lol
oh lol
They were converted from a Bubo
Only 2 left for me 
Then my own bot will stop harassing me 
gonna get the 5k fam and call it a day
start working on GS and maybe do afk for BB and BM

i got quite some work to do
I think I might resample again. I finally figured out exactly what I fucked up on vman last time and I think I would get at least 50-60% bigger gmush print if I did it correctly 
i gotta catch up..
what did u do wrong?
He only had small movespeed pots on which normally is fine because I dont level quick slap so the damage doesnt matter much
But in a speedrun when I have 300%+ mob respawn I wasnt actually reaching kill cap
ahh
i thought you were gonna say you failed the coin toss
like i have the past 3 attempts..
coin toss?

I think I timed it correctly but it doesnt matter either way because I didnt have the speed to use it
wdym failed coin toss?
you can coin toss W4/W5 boss to get an extra 3 portals/respawn
do u need to use cointoss for that?
ive found it easier to just use hotkey to auto-attack
anything works really
It shouldn't need to be cointoss
ait good
ive just known it as coin toss
lol
you just auto attack > press speedrun?
now does any1 have an opinion about how to easiest get 5k fam?
active vman
ofc, but that wont give me all the lvls
gonna brig vman to 450 atleast
i was thinking DKs would give atleast 20 fairly easy lvls each
active vman > pearl BB > finish whatever you might need with active 2nd ES?
this is my multi
My order might be Vman to 500 -> ES to 500 -> BM to 500 -> BB to 500
gotta prep for that all 500s... lol
Oh, just 5k fam level, my bad
Get close to boss, start speedrun, before tp hit the hotkey for auto attack and one shot the boss
migt have BB and BM work afk on it going forward
That's exactly what I'm doing, but Vman and ES are finished ๐
i will try that in 7 hrs remind me
but i guess thats gonna take ages
and end up a waste, as its most likely gonna finish around w6
Actually cant remember if i use the auto attack toggle key, or "r" to just hit the nearest enemy, but both should work
I just unlocked Bagur, ok... wtf is god rank and how does this work now?
the annoying thing is is ive been killing the boss with coin toss before pressing speedrun and it hasnt been counting but idk if thats cause im pressing speedrun too early or not
Even just active vman up to the floor level of your other characters (getting the 1.5 superbit bonus that entire time) will be a quick, cheap way to boost your levels.
God rank is just like buying infinite, non-existent gods. If you would succeed in the unlock, you get a god rank and the prices get higher for the next rank.
God rank is a meme that you can mostly ignore.
..what auto attack toggle key?
@obtuse rover Does it DO anything?
Top of the mornin'! I was wondering if any of you more experienced players know what the current character meta is while having a King Doot companion pet? The argument to run 2x ES for double Divinity links is irrelevant with King Doot.
It gives a small amount of damage if you level up the ES talent that scales off of it.
God ranks also give 10% more divinity xp per rank
I may be tism-touched, might just be using "r"
There's still not really a good reason to have 2 bubo, so most people would still recommend 2 ES so you can worship marginally harder and afk kill better.
Still ES ๐ Mana is Life provides better AFK gains, and Nearby Outlet provides more Worship Charge Rate. My comparison, a duplicate Bubo provides.. nothing!
A faster lv 500 
Yeah, bubo levels easier and I guess you can get better alchemy exp gains with 2 bubo in a cauldron together?
That requires having 2 bubos in a cauldron though
Okay, those are solid reasons to run 2 ES. So is it 2x BB, 2x ES, 2x SB?
Thatโs all I got
faster lvling and usefull while lvling
Who wants sigils anyways?
Current meta is 2x DK, 2x ES, 2x SB
much rather be doing CC while lvling than wormhole
Gotta get level 2 sigils done in time for level 3
You did your best ๐
if you have doot a 2nd bubo is better 
There is an argument for 2x BB, 2x DK, 2x ES, and only 1 SB. But I don't like that argument ๐
Dang, I ain't even got level 1 sigils done
i like 2 SBs
Same
Hmmm, why 2x DK over 2x BB? Wouldn't the additional ladles be more beneficial? Also, it seems 2x Bubo for alchemy would be better than 2x SB?
Build rate for construction is sort of the main draw
because bm is hot trash
smelting* sorry
"for alchemy" is a joke. It is very, very, very simple to do all alchemy related things on a single Bubo
I'm trying really hard but I honestly dont understand what I'm looking at. How did you skip a sigil lol
@obtuse rover for the slightly better liquid % from being in cauldron from being higher lvl... 
The main "do alchemy" thing for Bubo, Cranium Cooking, requires playing actively. And we can only active 1 character at a time, so.. No real benefit
2nd bubo for more lab width 
Okay. so the verdict is 2xDK, 2xES, & 2xSB?
That is the current, default, standard, meta setup. Yes.
But muh afk kills on ES
considering w6 isn't that far away and we have new skills coming you might want to wait in case we actually do get classes for them
As in, hold off on selecting my 10th class???
classes are still quite a bit away, iirc the roadmap stated W6 first then classes
I hope I get a highroll nugget 
You're fine as long as you have the 3:3:3:1 class structure on your roster.
If you really regret it you can swap elite classes if you're willing to pay later on. The only real irreversible damage is having a lopsided base-class distribution.
Many thanks you guys!
would not be mad at that
considering how long each of the classes took in w4/w5, i would just want w6 to be out instead of waiting an extra 1.5-2 months
Get out the second bubo 
i do have a meme CC time incoming
gonna be a while until i have a nice bubo level
needs to be renamed to hydropump
wtf
how much bubo have you done..
uhhhhh
oh yup thatll do it
so many bubble options that need leveled
@signal osprey the end is in sight
Frosty was completely under control on 170 and then suddenly all my Kraken Eyes went towards the right side of the Platform instead of holding the left guys 
Almost full blue 
Even more sad since it would have been wave 1000 total
I think the wave split
yea most of my wave splits have been from bugged mobs pushing my eyes away
And suddenly all krakens went towards the right stack
I want full blue 
GRATS Xayayah 
From what I've seen kicking can cause the wave splits so I dont do it unless its absolutely necessary like on a big wave before mobs start dying
you had vine on auto too?
But other than that it can also just happen on its own too because TD is fun and rng
Wave splits are so annoying 
i miss sampling.
Randomly losing 15 lives 
Never had wave splits before. So I manually used kick and vines
kick best talent
Good to know for next TD in 6 months 

You guys definitely know how to make a guy feel inadequate... I'm over here at 100/100/80/80/70/70...
I would do it but Iโll level my towers more 
I should probably update my waka score at some point but that TD is so bad
I got more waves on Goblin, Acorn and Cans than Ducky 
i went back to update some of my scores after getting a dec amount of kraken lvls but just got undead mobs constantly so i just gave up
Nvm Iโll redo my TDs
200 Golbin here I come 
when this is just the norm
Damn. I'm glad that was not my TD experience the last two days
So I finally started doing some liquidvestment decanting and apparently my max liquid cap without the lab node isnt high enough for all of my hourly clicks 
same 
I wanna go back to DK already
what are you at now
just use vman for TD and not have to worry about wave splits because of kick 
Just do it 
liquidvestment was the best thing that could happen with my bad bubo habits
If you mean for decants theyre shit. Cauldron 1 is 230/267
i wanted to go 500 min for all cauldrons
and quickly realized even at 470k CC avg that itll take a long time
so i went back to beans..
500 min 
400 
think i stop at
00
im actually already close to 500 min, lowest is 454 rn

What is ur refinery time now? 
hmm, wonder how long til you guys spiral so far out youll be making more atoms with salt
@barren otter I got my nuggie upgrade but it is only half of what I wanted ๐ฆ

what was it..
4

this
10 mil next for sure
Never. Redox salt you wont ever use for atoms because its more valuable to just make more stacks to get extra build speed and the others salts arent worth printing the mats for at that level
oh fair enough, forgot you would go to making extra stacks first
does the talent counts salt in the refinery output zone? ๐ค
does the refinery output slots go over the 1050m cap? ๐ค
I'm honestly not sure
@paper sail at this rate dude i might finish superbit with a 20 snail
Heโs absorbing the power of the Chems so he can achieve 23 
he's getting poisoned and will denote 
1.5 and 20.8 tho so not great
Yo wtf my snail just got back up to 22
Brother 
wth.. i want my 22 snail back
my snail never rolled back 
Damn I just dropped 30 mail and that was a rollercoaster
I will finish it with my 15 in 2 years ๐
You know what time is
๐ฆ
Level 0 snail
I reset right after 22
time to click more plants
It's actually time to click your Colo Tickets 
I tried for 23 two times already
And the end result is back to 20 now
Im going for it a third time like a maniac
Did u click yours 
I needa click mineโฆ
Me too 
30 Tickets. Now I just need motivation to go through my 300 tickets...
save them for Colo 6 
Do them now 
Itโs only 150 runs
Colo 6 for 7 hour of candy and a farmable resource from the last Enemy of W6 
I should probably start clicking tickets again
we must get those candies
I still have 100 runs to do 
Maybe tomorrow or maybe today
Who knows
Im so close to finishing glass Iโve regained some motivation 
Only a cool 30ish minutes
you can have mine
can I have some of those bosskeys then? ๐
I trade 700 keys for 200 colo tickets 
Good thing there is no trading in IdleOn. I would totally take all Colo Tickets from people for "good" stuff
bosskeys
who cares about those
why magma knuckles recipe is so hard to drop i already killed 110m suggma and doesn't drop the recipe x.x
The droprate is 1/50m actual kills. Multikill, kill per kill and such are not getting counted towards the recipe
I only do 30 
The best way to check how far you are is to look at your "Royal Urns". Aprox 1000 royal urns is 1 knuckle recipe
Used to do them once a week but i didnโt like having to timeblock for Colo 
yeah is true, but damn i'm trying to get it for like 6 days hahaha
but i just need to be patient
Lots of people struggle with the recipe and say it's bugged. But the drop rate is just that low
May I ask how much drop rate your character has?
So this middle number "Drop Rarity"
is mob respawn% good for pushing vman speedrun? for example, would equipping kruk chest and pants be better than magma?
mine has atm 9.8x
pushing portals? no
With 9.8x you still got a lot of stuff to do. It's probably better to get back to the recipe later on
The recipe won't help your Vman that much
that's what I thought, but then i got thinking maybe it might make mobs reappear on screen quicker after using void radius on further maps
nah even then
i see... well i think im going to focus on alchemy and stamps again
with the boss kills stacking the respawn% from kattle/keychains is tiny in comparison
youre better off getting raw dmg to push for mk tiers
and even on sampling the respawn % on gear is worse than afk %
word, makes sense. thanks
what's the best strat for getting god's? going for odds or just saving up for 100% sacrifices each time?
cycle low % options on the left until you either hit or 100% shows up on the right
I am gonna spend my 100k ladles now, what do you guys recommend? None of my meals will be maxed after so I was thinking 5 kitchens on cooking speed and then the lower 5 on cannoli or something.
I dont get how these talents combine. what are "the other hits" and does that +130% from triple add to the bonus from the other two from two punch?
It more or less adds to the previous punches yeah
Basic punch
Punch 2 and better punch 1
Punch 3 and better punch 1/2
Punch 4 and better punch 1/2/3
punch 1 should basically be 100% + each of the 3 bonuses
Punh 2 would be punch 2 base bonus, and bonuses 2/3 adding to it
Punch 3 would be punch 3 base bonus, and bonus 3 adding to it
Punch 4 would just be the bonus stated in punch 4
this is great, thanks
The amount of posts in #achievement-pics thinking they got the Glove recipe from Suggmas because it is lit up on the card is too damn high
i was wondering wtf those are about
I pop in there once in a while and there is almost 1 per day lol
there is so much thats not even close to an achievment there aswell
my greatest achievement was getting the w2 splicer recipe in colo back in the day
@barren otter is this enough power for 23 or do I need a t7 in there
I've also had efaunt drop an card from one its arms which is incredibly rare
need a t7
my greatest achievement is 678 days afk claim 
I DID IT, I HAVE ENOUGH LADLES. WHAT 10 RECIPES DID EVERYONE ELSE GO FOR?
oops caps
I did 10 on cannoli
pog
woah I did exactly the same meals just 30 minutes ago, crazy! but in another order
wait, sorry I did turkey instead of corn for the sailing bonus artifact
that increases cooking speed
I'm like 98k.ladles atmosphere can't wait to have done
Want my bb back on super chow
us noobs with 2 bb and 2 dk xD
but for cooking/super chow it is quite nice
one cooks, other chows
I am one level away from maxing purrmep Blessing Bonus lol. Did not take nearly as long as I thought it would with Active Bubo.
I went for 10 on double cherries
This is a median nug increase, but it hurts nonetheless
I pray for your nug gains 
There's some glitch with chopping in w5๐ญ
I'm progressing my last two characters rn and when they go to chop they are getting 9000m xp an hr
Yeahh idk why tho
They are both lvl one in chopping๐yeah ik im neglectful
I think they only got a iron axe too
I left one dude on it for 2 hrs came back and he went from 1 to 58
Yeah it could have been way worse
9b xp/hr 
Wish my vman had 9B catching xp/hr
Somethings that's interesting is it only works on those that first enter the map
Idk why it's happening tho
9b xp should be way more than 1->58 so isn't it just some visual bug and it calculates it correctly when you claim afk?
with or without skilled dimwit
Should I be focusing on getting ancient artifacts as I go, or should I more focus on pushing clouds to get base form of all of them, then be trying to upgrade?
I wish my lab would show correct active nodes :( Quite annoyign when all timers like refining / stamp / vial related are completely wrong
Either or man
I am no where near 9B catching xp an hour lol
My xp is 
XD
Unlock first, artifacts are a bonus
Is lava still planning on adding more nodes?
you have doot?
Ofc
Lava isn't insane!
Right..?
nope, just 3/5 souped up upgrade from shop which bugs out with arctis
Does going beyond 100% do anything?
IE or IT doesn't show these 2 characters having active souped up upgrade when they have it ingame due to some weird interaction with arctis. So the lines "break" in both of the tools
But you are 
lets hope for more lab nodes
I dont think that's it bc when the glitch dissapears they go back to 0 logs 0 xp: maybe a mix of both?
i have souped up lab tubes + arctis and mines working fine
I have 3/5 souped up tubes so it should mean 6 of my characters have the boost, however I actually have 8 charcters with the boost ingame and 6 in IT / IE
mine is looking a lil off aswell, i got all but 2 in lab atm
What level(ish) can you pull your guys out of the lab? Isn't it somewhere around 75?
Never
75 unlocks all chip slots
You can't just put them on Artcis?
How long does doot gmush take normally?
Thx
Guy above you confused me
i didnt say its ideal to remove everyone from lab
are you sure youre even connected
It's not worth putting arctis on everyone
120180pt range is not very far
Best harriep
but theres no rule saying you need to have everyone in / anyone for that matter
it is connected. It is quite easy to see when the tools say I dont have NBLB but I get it every day
if you just unlocked arctis and you might aswell enjoy it for a while
when you get goat you want to grind lab again
to the point where you can do 6man lab
unlucky bug then ig
I eventually got tired of lab and bought doot
i got tired of doot so i got back to lab
out of curiosity, what would that cost?
It is quite beneficial bug for early lab :D The characters linked to arctis get the souped up bonus (if they are in "correct" character slots) but dont actually take the slot in tube. Just that the IE / IT haven't implemented that bug
They exist 
Like if I play active on my arctis linked ES and go to lab and press upload, then the links break just like in IE / IT
Yeah they exist, but you will probably not get another in 100 Colos 
At this rate I might be done GS those in 2025 
are you planning on GS those?
Probably not. Just having them in Chest to see how much I can get in a week or so
I could technically let them in the Chest, but I won't purposefully do them
i saved up almost 2 mill of each one time. took quite some time
i was doing it on bubo tho, hehe
Yeah also on Bubo right now. My DK is locked in Div Jail for extra arctis levels
Definitely won't get them till W6 release haha
I might get W1 Statues GS before W6 tho
That would still leave me with 10 GS for 200. Haven't completely looked into all the GS possible / needed for me
if my calculations are correct il get to 193 with out much problem
w6 when
Tomorrow 
thanks
if only
No problem 
But don't spread around the secret Information 
ok
w6 tomorrow confirmed
Can say with 100% certainty, do not buy every material anvil point for every single character at once
Takes a long time and is very tedious
Satisfying, but tedious
Proof?
@rough wasp i did it 
Where

Just trust us 
Bro bout to get my hopes up
if it doesnt come out tomorrow im eating ducky
When w6 drops can we candy w5?๐
no

does any1 know what happens if i active an hour without internet and then it comes back?
service on the line for 2 hours and im going for overnight active ๐ฆ
i think if you logout you lose whatever you were doing but if you're online when the internet comes back it saves to the cloud so you get everything you got while offline
sounds like its worth a try
probably the squishiest gif I've ever seen

๐คญ
I finished my chems 

You've been warned
Monkey no longer Carries me like he used to 
Looks like I will die tomorrow. Jdeezy gonna eat me. It was good knowing you guys 

What lvl divinity can you start taking players off?
I got all Gods unlocked and set all to the passive xp style
Right now I'm taking everyone to lvl 120, but that's after I basically finished most content the game has to offer
I have bear god and 1 exp for every char rn
Most my chars are level29-31
I think Iโm up to the goat and bunny
With Goat you can put them in Lab to get xp for Lab and Div. I think the level 40 style gives you 3 xp/h without being on the altar. So try to go for that
I went the true lazy style of 3x Goats on Mantra until everyone else made it to 40+
It was very slow 
Alright thanks I got about 8 on goat and getting lab up just didnโt kno when to stop
Eventually everyone to 75 for all chip slots and at best a lab setup that works with 6 Chars. Not sure what level your guys need to be for that
mantra sucks
Lab is just a waiting game, that you unfortunately can't really skip
i feel like lab is soo fast to lvl up these days
The only thing you can do is put your Bubo on the right side of Lab -> They have a talent that gives everyone more Lab XP
Can't really say. My guys are all nearly lvl 200 lab 
same
Scoli or Contract can tell us more if they finally get to W4 
You can Pearl lab if you're a silly billy
do any of you guys know what happens if i active w/o internet for a few hours?
Probably nothing if you cloud save while your internet is online
Nothing, if keep the game open and nothing else cloudsaves from another device
sweet
Yeah just cloudsave manually once you're back online and you're good
my vman need to grind 
IdleOn can be your in-flight entertainment
closing in on the DR
4th family Sparkle is quite nice
yup
Should I:
- Wait to unlock another bonus
- Spend points in pixel range
- Spend points in Food Lust ?
man that 500 average level is so rough xD I need to literally GT farm for like, another month before I push that tlol
I'm going 10 into Foodlust
Thanks !
i might save once DR one is maxed
depends how far from 200GS im at when that happens
Does it lower only one meal at random ?
I wouldn't ever save tbh. Spend that Equinox bar asap
im not talking saving for weeks
more like if im not far away i will wait
afterall im halfway tru lust aswell
Nah, behaves like Gilded Stamp. You get to choose, but it only applies to the first next meal
but i do agree
Or the Atom stamp discount is a better comparison since they both stack up to a given max
did u get the 200 GS yet scoli?
far from it?
My highest has been 180
you aint doing it untill w6?
Guys the boss from Rando island disapear if you enter and leave ? 
I'm focused on upcoming resample this weekend hopefully
ahh nice
Not doing anything non-sample related until I break down and sample lol
I do not know. Have been scared to test
Looks like it disapeared 
i dont see any reason to test it
it dosent matter what char you kill it on as far as i know
I entered with a SB to check if it respawned and then swaped for Vman for DR
aint the drop rate fixed ?
๐ซก Thank you for your service
But I don't even know if DR is useful
I ccan confirm it dissapears,
So I just lost that

I went in on a SB and scatter shot didn't hit the boss so I had to swap classes or hit it once every like 8 seconds so I swapped and lost it :))
Yeah SB is bugged so that was another good reason to swap
low key surprised it hasn't been fixed yet
Close to 100M ! (should've done that before climbing but it's almost done)
im usually able to kill with SB using abilities
It was for Chiz iirc
is this a bug only for rando island?
I remember the bug was the same for Chiz and I think it was patched, not 100% sure
Nope
so for the sake of Schow all rift mobs count as the same mob?
Also on other maps
I think so
For apocalypses it does only count as 1
just asking cause those who already did rift to the end would probably cry at the missed mobs
You're right, always skill issue
If I don't have Doot yet it must also be skill issue related
like me
doot is skill issue yes
New pet tomorrow, let's see if I'm more skilled then before
yep, also its not that bad to do it at max rift (i did) you just stack kpk
Not expecting Doot, but I want a new one
its faster than you would think
Half my pets are duplicates
I got my doot F2P I believe in yoou
Sheepie was really great
i hope so i think my lowest dmg character caps out at 200m but that is my vman and i have him skilling like 90% of the time and 50% of that time is just fishing large fish cause fishing takes so exp
i was holding of on rift for easier Schow. but i later found out that was stupid
the time to add dmg for efficient super chow was just too much for it to be worth it
so i just finished up rift. iirc i had like almost 1 mill kph at max rift with BB
i wanna get to vial mastery at least before i stop just cause i feel that it going to be relevent to me soon cause i am working up on max level vials here soon i have 3 maxed but in the next coupld of days it is gonna be about close to 6 or 7 then i gotta resample real quick to see what it becomes after that
How about me? ๐
Did you do something? 
I lost my account, sacrificed it to Alvin
Godspeed, I suppose o7
Trying to type code on a phone is the worst experience. Spent about 5 minutes doing what takes me 30 seconds at the desktop.
Ikr
with BT keyboard or no? either way, even with Bt Kb, small screen is still an issue so ig yeah
Nah, actual phone keyboard
My child fell asleep on me on the couch. I was trying to continue working from phone but it just isn't worth the effort
Aww, for me? That's so sweet!
I still need mine
Okay, I needa save candies for bars now lol
How many GS are u at rn?
180
I'm locked out of so many quest items that I know I won't finish before w6
So not even trying
I might actually be at 178 too lol. I break gstacks all the time
Everyone that ever reviewed my IE and gave me shit about Amarok keys..
Owes me a gstack 
get it done
Thought it didn't matter you only got 3 a day anyway
You can get up to 10 per day

one for each character who completed the quest
W3 chat is the worst. Fuckin liars
You get so many keys from Colo though later on
Greenstack Chizoar keys Scoli
Not sure if this is the actual reference or not, but that emote always reminds me of Rs2
That would require not consuming them like the greedy little pig I am
Med mad his QS isnโt 10k yet
or just be lazy and don't spend ur keys
Scoli have you added json yet

I can literally do that rn 
You wonโt 
You're right
To the bot? Yeah, weeks ago
Me too 
Added JSON input support on the 24th of last month haha
I can't remember when we talked about it 

Omg med is back
Idk I haven't seen you in a while
Other chats are scary
I venture in maybe once a day and someone says insane shit within 5 seconds every time
Only gen chat





