lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[tacit tulip]

capacity for smithing is partially based on your monster material pouch

so getting a bigger bag will help you there

[lilac bolt]

those works?

[wide halo]

How partial we talking

[sacred verge]

4k is very very small

should be insanely easy to get that up

[wide halo]

How

[sacred verge]

you were just told

material bags

[wide halo]

Yeah ik I got like play bags rn

Plat

[rugged token]

bags/hammer hammer/points in cap

[wide halo]

Hammer hammer increases capacity?

[rugged token]

no, but it allows you to forgo putting some points into speed for capacity

not at the point you're at but later on it will

[wide halo]

Aight

[rugged token]

this is mine on BM with 2k~ hammer hammer bubble and w5 mat bag

600~ points were put into capacity

[flat forge]

How expensive is hammer hammer at max, how many particles

[rugged token]

324

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's an early bubble so not expensive

[flat forge]

Oh thats actually quite okay

[rugged token]

but you can hourly click it with iron ore

[tacit tulip]

I typically level it using iron ore tho

[flat forge]

I should level it

[flat forge]

Oh damn

[slender sandal]

is there a calculator or ratio for hammer/hammer and moving anvil points?

[flat forge]

Depends on the sample innit

[rugged token]

doesn't take too much to get a high enough print for it

and you can always use 2 slots for it

[tacit tulip]

so I decided to do 20 min traps while levelling my BM and oh god I wasn't expecting so many froge

[rugged token]

you don't have to immediately jump to printing 1b mats on single slots

[tacit tulip]

will he hit 15 this time? Gonna encourage cause every time I've yolo'd at 14, its reset

[slender sandal]

send it

[tacit tulip]

I've been stuck between 10-14 for 4 months

[pine yacht]

I'm at 10, waiting for 2nd lvl of atom :p

[tacit tulip]

so my froge trap plan isn't going as wellas I expected

I was kinda hoping I'd get more than 6 cards per claim

[solemn spire]

i'm upgrading my active bubo with 20 book upgrades. is this priority ok?
Tentacleye > Cranium Cooking > Raise dead > Aura/canister/fart ghost/bouncing skull > damage

[slender sandal]

ignore skull entirely

but the order is good to start with

don't neglect your skilling talents though too 🙂

[solemn spire]

yeah i just need some alch gains

[clear quartz]

what do i wanna spend my double 90% on? would do multitool or crystalline but neither are an option anytime particularly soon

[rugged token]

fun times ahead time to wait a few hours

[clear quartz]

golden food it is!

[rugged token]

mason jar/gfood/matty bag are my current reduction prios

[cyan shuttle]

[teal lynx]

Mason Jar to ~100 (eventually to 128+) I would recommend. Just so you can upgrade Multitool some more

[rugged token]

don't think it's worth going for 200 so i'll swap to dps mode soon for this wave, +20 max waves for msa

[kindred dagger]

I thought you had to unlock this?

[teal lynx]

U already unlocked tier 5

[bold quiver]

too strong. What lvl are your poison and kraken

[earnest elbow]

Any general advice on upgrading Vman damage ?

[teal lynx]

Second Superbit in Top Row gives you +1 Evolutions

[bold quiver]

accepting that his dmg will always suck D: nothing much u can do

[earnest elbow]

I shall make peace with me god then

[kindred dagger]

lmfao. So I should have been waiting for the fifth evolution this whole time?

This is my board right now. Should I wait until they all get to five?

[teal lynx]

I wouldn't chase T5, they will come with time
Better off harvesting the Board and upgrading stuff

[rugged token]

190 done just over an hour

[stable kayak]

Hi! Good morning, do you have any recommendation for Building?
And my highest char on it

[oak pawn]

Are sigils permanent passive buffs?

[fallow aurora]

after u unlock them yes

[oak pawn]

Wonderful thank you

Does cranium cooking increase the unlock rate of sigils?

[fallow aurora]

i'm not too sure but I don't think so

[oak pawn]

okay, ty

[rugged token]

CC does not increase the rate that sigils charge

[tacit tulip]

build speed is primarily about your construction level, because of this bubble.

Focus all your cogs on EXP gain and point them to 1-2 characters (DK).

level up a lot, enjoy high build speed

[sick sentinel]

Time for cog clicker for more player exp bonus

[clear quartz]

i need to do more cog clicker activities

dont wanna look at the tab tho since i dont wanna redo snapshot

[stable kayak]

What is Cog Clicker?

[tacit tulip]

You put your high build speed DK into the purple slot and you sit there clicking the button every time it's available

[stable kayak]

I currently have this , but the problem are the salts, I havent been able to leave it like perma farm?

[tacit tulip]

producing hundreds and hundreds of purple cogs which in turn gets you better exp

The level is a bigger factor than the bubble, let NBLB level it up

spending salt on it would be a mistake

[stable kayak]

Got it , so Ill try the clicker to see how much EXP it gives, do I have to be on the DK?

[tacit tulip]

Any warrior is best, as it increases the speed gained from that bubble

this buffs the build speed you get from the other bubble while on warrior

[worthy helm]

cough cough

[tacit tulip]

apart from very early on, I didn't spend any salt on that bubble. It was all NBLB then later, atoms

[teal lynx]

It would probably good to also show the best Cons Layout ^^

[worthy helm]

Tbh the 90% off costs almost no salts for me so

[teal lynx]

You wanna set up your Construction board like this to get maximum value onto your DKs

[tacit tulip]

I'd still rather let NBLB do it tbh. To get it into atom range you need the cost to be 100m. with a 90% discount, you're still looking at a few million salt per upgrade unti lthen

[stable kayak]

Oh my, the silver ones, how do you get them?

[tacit tulip]

and I definitely don't have a few million orange salt

[teal lynx]

Those silver ones are the "Zen Cogs" from the Gemshop

You don't have to buy them all at once. They cost something like 10k gems together

[muted plover]

when im active with dk my print is kinda bugg

only me ?

[stable kayak]

Understood, Ill start playing the Cog CLicker, and what do I do with everyone else? just dont add them anywhere? or leave them in any cog?

[teal lynx]

That is only a visual glitch. You are still getting the right amount of prints. I think it had something to do with the Orb

[muted plover]

its fliping between this colour and the purple one who is the correct

[cyan shuttle]

and they didn't even credit me

[teal lynx]

Sorry Pancake. I took it from the old Guide and it didn't show you in there

[cyan shuttle]

well it's their fault not yours

[tacit tulip]

leave the others on your cog shelfyeah - you don't need to do anything with them

[stable kayak]

I just discovered you can print the same material TWICE oh my, a game change for atoms

[rugged token]

in your 3 man setup did you put in your Vman or a BB? I assumed Vman since it's probably higher leveled from ccd.

[cyan shuttle]

i made that setup for people with 3 dk

[rugged token]

oh

[stable kayak]

What is the best God to have better resources for prints?
because I currently have Nobi on my 2 main pushers... but a week ago or so I was prohibited from doing more W5 until I get my sh... together TwT hshshs
( so they are making main resources right now )

[rugged token]

yeah that's makes more sense haha

[tacit tulip]

if you're desperate for resources (and you probably are) hare god while sat in lab produces 6x print

[livid raft]

Anyone got the pattern for totem battle?

[stable kayak]

Oh but I think I am more desperate for Divinity as I dont have the tiger yet

[muted plover]

is there any better position or i need to do it manually on bb ?

[tacit tulip]

BB is manual or a truck load of damage

Process is the same as Vman - which we have a pin for in this channel

[stable kayak]

Isnt that the skill that heals the enemies?

[tacit tulip]

it shouldn't heal bosses I think - the problem is the moles which do

[muted plover]

so im doomed cuz bb is my second character =[

[tacit tulip]

you're gonna need to do it on all 10 regardless

[rugged token]

more alchemy

[tacit tulip]

the nice thing about project 20m trap is I can finally level this up a bit

[rugged token]

yeah i stopped at level 8 on that vial. couldn't make myself farm out 1m more

[tacit tulip]

this is kinda a multi-use project

Getting cards, poison froges, and levelling my BM to 500

[rugged token]

i'm at 412m/1b on goosey vial, when i'm done with that one i'll probably do an even spread of a few different traps. need to 5 star some cards as well

[tacit tulip]

I'm honestly surprised how rare the cards are

with 80 traps I was expecting to get more than like, 8 per click

[rugged token]

yeah that's rough but beats using rubifiers imo

[stable kayak]

Ill keep looking into the efficiency and come to bother if anything happens, as Im curious how to level up my gaming it seems eternal x.x

Thanks so much for the help!!

[rugged token]

it's an rng hellpit of carpal tunnel goodluck

[tacit tulip]

gaming is definitely eternal

[livid raft]

Haven't doing a void speed run in awhile.. any good tips for setting up for it?

[proud pumice]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002

[livid raft]

Ahh thank you.

[fallow aurora]

what bubbles should I focus?

[tacit tulip]

consider https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

it'll give you suggestions

[fallow aurora]

ty

[proud pumice]

first things first i'd unlock all bubbles with bubo

should be easy

[solemn yarrow]

Utter garbage

Yeah

Not actually, my gear is bad. Alchemy is bad. Everything is

I am just so mechanically skilled

How to speed up sigil progression?

[teal lynx]

Gem Shop + One of the Equinox Resource Vials

[tacit tulip]

skilled at micro but there's just a brick for a brain with macro knowledge? 😄

[solemn yarrow]

I don't even know what micro or macro mean. Mouse goes click clici

[uneven root]

Foto?

[solemn yarrow]

Void armor mostly

or whatever it was i don't know

i don't really play

but the black one

[uneven root]

It steel good

[solemn yarrow]

You know

[solemn yarrow]

Garbo

[uneven root]

Good😅

[solemn yarrow]

Pew peww

[tacit tulip]

they're moba terms (not that I actually play any). Micro is your general skill level. You click the right places, you use the right buttons at the right time. In a multiplayer game, you outplay your enemy

Macro is the grander sense of knowledge. You know where to be, when. You pick upgrades that improve your situation based on the greater picture. In idleon, you do alchemy 😄

[wide halo]

Man thanks for the timely response

Micro and macro has many variations tho

[solemn yarrow]

Ahh thanks. My terminology is really shit

but I have played moba games for years. Just not into the nerdy stuff

I just outplay and lack in knowledge

[solemn yarrow]

huh

[pastel bramble]

😭 got my first snail reset 22>20 😭

[rich epoch]

welcome to gaming

[paper sail]

You made it all the way to 22 without a reset? Big lucky

I've reset probably 10+ times now. Have not made it above 17

[pearl pebble]

is this OP

[paper sail]

Nah

Base Critters like Honker Vial and shiny critters is OP

Bonus critters is much weaker

[pearl pebble]

well time to unlock the honker vial

[paper sail]

Base Critters is akin to multi-gather chance, if that helps think about it. Except it isn't capped like multi-gather is

[pearl pebble]

yeah like

base critters is multiplied by everything else, where bonus is additive onto those bonuses

[paper sail]

Right

Base critters even give more exp too

Just amazing all the way around

[rapid python]

which is the vman tab4 talent that gives the other points based on speed run?

first i guess

[pearl pebble]

the first one?

[rapid python]

that was not worthy of a question here, sorry 🙂

[pearl pebble]

ur good dude. ive asked less worthy questions haha

[clear quartz]

almost done with ladle farming, then.... i guess bb will stay in kitchen duty after i go and finish the last few superchows

or maybe park him on gmush

[rugged token]

never enough ladles

[dull nymph]

Are there any stamps/bubbles/anything that boost spice output? Trying to get the gem for this week but I just farm too slowly

[teal lynx]

At the very end of gaming there is something that doubles your spice output, but you are probably not at that point. You can look at the schedule and see when the Jewel comes into rotation again

[dull nymph]

I am, unfortunately, not at the very end of gaming 😅 but gotcha- I assume you mean there's a late superbit then

How do you see the schedule, in that case?

[rugged token]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/edit#gid=1945859978 use this link or you can use IT

[teal lynx]

I believe the second last Superbit is the double spice one. So late into the Million or Billions Red Bits

[dull nymph]

Oof yea that's gonna be a hot minute for me, I'm in the double digit greens rn

[dull nymph]

Thanks for the chart- and dang it's like 3 months if I miss it now, I wonder if there's anything I can do to force my spice up

[pearl pebble]

collect the spice manually

[rugged token]

unfortunately there isn't other then having a better lineup for spice gathering outside of the 2 superbit gaming upgrades for spice increases. your best bet would probably just be to buy out the 2 lab jewels each week until you've got them all

[dull nymph]

Aight, thanks

I'm also going to try to get to frosty peaks (I kinda get slaughtered but there must be a way for me to cheese it) so I can set up whales

[rugged token]

not sure, it's been a really long time since i've done mine. I just followed the spreadsheet guide for pet battles/arena/gathering lineups

[dull nymph]

Yeah, I'm just not really able to outdamage the healers w the builds there, but I'm sure that's just user error (in that most of my pets are weak)

Unrelated, is there still no way to sell pets (like the gem pets not breeding) on IOS? I've only got a mac and the steam is windows only, so I've got summons but no space

[rough wasp]

Pale I finally got 10 snail

[rugged token]

[fading oracle]

what is the order of unlocking the amtom upgrades? just go down the list or upgrade what you can afford or save something specific?

[rugged token]

working on this

got 190 on gublin earlier, cans/citringes are the only ones I need to get 160 on for blue MSA

citringes probably won't happen yet but at least cans is done

[prime cloud]

Is 17.3x dr decent?

Trying to figure out what I can do to boost it more

[gleaming yarrow]

WAIT WHAT

[fallen torrent]

@prime cloud i want you to know, SB talent for plunderous monster max it out, it may looks Small gains. but it give a lot of DR

[prime cloud]

I've got it at 223 atm but my SB has been somewhat neglected, should really start farming more mobs on it tbh

[prime cloud]

What's your % from it at? Currently at 16.7%

[paper sail]

Not a mac person, but I think I heard Browser should let you sell

[rough wasp]

yeah, I just need citringes now for all blue

[rugged token]

i had a split but i saved it

[rich epoch]

currently working my way onto the honker vial at a pace of 3m every 10 hours and I think I might need to reconsider

[rough wasp]

Starting to see chonks

[rugged token]

yeah i've started getting semi-regular 1m+nugs, my min is like 110k atm

[rich epoch]

my nug is at 280k and the highest I've seen is like 40k

love it

[rugged token]

just have to hope when i eventually hit an upgrade i get a mid roll at least

[rough wasp]

whats ur nugget range now

[tulip sundial]

what is the deal with nuggets? Click it once a day and hope for a big number? for what?

[rugged token]

chemical plant is basically time candy for gaming skill

[upbeat panther]

click it hundreds of times and cry

[rugged token]

so you can click hundreds even thousands of times a day

[granite grove]

chem loops and equinox nugget stacks

[prime cloud]

Where do people farm for Plunder Kills on their SB?

[rough wasp]

Midroll would be juicy

[rugged token]

yeah at least 2x multi is what i'm hoping for at this point, gonna need a lot more bit multis to be able to get towards 4E27 without a snail 25 so basically a gift from the gods is what I need

just waiting now

[tulip sundial]

so it straight up multiplies the bits per plant?

[fallen torrent]

58M nugget WHOUHPU

58.7M

[rough wasp]

gotta give u the duality

[upbeat panther]

pale what is your kracken lvl

[fallen torrent]

seeing 500 nugget back again feels like... ugh so low xD

[rugged token]

68

[dull nymph]

you can play on browser??

[upbeat panther]

im 59 and i cant stall them long enough yet uggggg

time to pump bob

[rugged token]

have to be able to buy enough A traits on party starters for them to reach .35 for cans

[teal lynx]

I thought Ducky sent that
Thank God you are not ducky 🤭

[rough wasp]

[rugged token]

can't have ducky having a higher nugget then i do

[teal lynx]

I was gonna get mad that Ducky finally got a huge nug

[rough wasp]

[rugged token]

especially when he clicks a lot more then i do

[rough wasp]

im only 2.5k clicks into this one

[rugged token]

i've been on this same one since like week 3 of equinox being out

i barely click

[rough wasp]

nvm then

[paper sail]

https://www.legendsofidleon.com/

[rugged token]

it's ok ducky, you're better then me in every other aspect of the game

[rough wasp]

prob not slab

[rugged token]

yeah maybe not that one

i'm at 1324/1459

[rough wasp]

1227

[proud pumice]

do you have bob joe pickle vial lvl 2?

[rough wasp]

[proud pumice]

what a noob

[rough wasp]

[rugged token]

25 more days for me

[proud pumice]

i started buying them when island expeditions came out because i believed it helped with nothing island

[upbeat panther]

needed pickles for questline

[rugged token]

Still 5.4T hp between 3 enemies left, not so sure i'll be able to kill them before time wall

[upbeat panther]

you get like 9999 seconds right

[fierce meadow]

anyone have the battle moves for w2 weekly boss?

[rugged token]

yeah

[fallen torrent]

when my salt are done being upgraded (tonight i think) im creating all my new maxed out trap and retrapping everything, ive lacked too much on that

[rugged token]

I put all of my salts to premanently upgrading and tossed the salt chart

[rich epoch]

#1157094107085283428

check the pinned message

[upbeat panther]

pickle a day keeps the doc away

[fallen torrent]

Superchow only count on the second BB right

[tacit tulip]

first on mobile... it's messy

basically if you have two BB, change one at your earliest convenience

I'm waiting for the addition of warrior 3

(I've done BB2, and don't wanna swap BB 1 cause it means there'll be two DKs on the first page. Yes, I know that's a poor reason :D)

[rough wasp]

The nuggets are over for now

[keen rapids]

Is shiny snitch worth maxing or should i just ignore it?

Max it or any specific lvl?

[upbeat panther]

dont max until you have enough shiny chance

[keen rapids]

How do you find shiny chance?

[rich epoch]

the multiplier would need to be lower than the shiny chance decrease for it to not be worthy it and that never happens

[keen rapids]

kk, hope i've not made a mistake then xD

[waxen fjord]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=shiny critter

[paper sail]

The ratio of Golden Snitch (chance = 75% of gain) remains the same the whole time, which is nice

[pearl pebble]

im not sure if this is already been found before, but ciringes map u can go bubo with cc aura and revive and insta kill everything by manually casting aura left and right and spamming the fk out of revive. if you split the platform into fifths like 12345 and cast aura at 2 and 4, its super broken

i just did that for equinox and it was crazy effective. almost 6x my previous highest CC progress time

u can use number keys to cast and left/right to move. very easy

prob not useful if u are lategame tho lmao

[paper sail]

Yep. That's the standard Bubo meta until you can do the same up at Tremor Wurms. Though, nobody manually casts 😛

[pearl pebble]

ahh yea lol

manual cast is eh.

for equinox tho hell ye

[waxen fjord]

i get about 140k seconds on my cc, not bad but not great. thats on auto though if i sit there and do manual i can get 200k, but who has the time for that

[pearl pebble]

i was getting 30k seconds before and i just now got like 160k or something crazy

[paper sail]

Aura Meta

[pearl pebble]

i wish i knew about this sooner lmao ive just been sitting around waiting for my cannisters to deal 2 damage

[waxen fjord]

i only have 4 abilities assigned to my attack tab

[sour oasis]

I LOVE HOURLY CLAIMS I LOVE HOURLY CLAIMS I LOVE

8000 froges per hour only 50 more claims to go

[paper sail]

May as well do 20min claims

[rugged token]

full pain 20 minute claims and be done faster

[pearl pebble]

facts

[paper sail]

No reason NOT to do 20min claims honestly

[sour oasis]

💀

I guess....

[rugged token]

it's the same amount of shinies either way so yes no reason not to do 20 minutes

[paper sail]

You get the same 119 shiny critters per trap regardless of duration, assuming max Shiny Snitch prayer. You can/should end up claiming more 20min traps than 1hr traps

[sour oasis]

Only if im not lazy about collecting

[mint remnant]

yo for the 100k ladles dream do u need a stack of exactly 100k or anything scuffed like that would make it not count towards it? im a bit too paranoid to just click it

[paper sail]

Worst case scenario, it is the exact same amount of shinies lol

Anything better than worst case is just pure gains

[rugged token]

nearly half way done from last screen shot, should be done before time wall

[pearl pebble]

deposit it into storage and split it yolo

[paper sail]

You need exactly 100k, yes.

[sour oasis]

scoli how high is your poison frog vial?

[rugged token]

level 8 iirc, that's usually what people get to before they see 1m and decide that's enough

[sour oasis]

sounds about right

[paper sail]

Exactly lol. 8 is a good stopping point

[rough wasp]

I already stopped

[sour oasis]

my dumb ass forgot to get the shiny pet chance food

this could already be over i feel like

[cerulean hemlock]

never stop

[weak vector]

i'm surprised i have more poison froges in my bank. almost makes me want to get vial 9. almost...

[paper sail]

you shouldn't need it. It is insanely easy to get 100% shiny chance on froges

[rough wasp]

Almost done with Crab Juice tho

[sour oasis]

ok good i just noticed he ran out of shiny food at some point, didnt know for how long

so it probably wont make a difference

[rugged token]

need this TD to end so I can go bedge

[paper sail]

Peak shiny critter efficiency is 28,560 per hour from 80 traps * 119 per trap * 3 claims per hour.
Given a cost of 1m, you need to make 105 trap claims (or 35 perfect hours)

[sour oasis]

doesnt sound so bad until you have to do it

[paper sail]

Doesn't sound like that much until you remember the pain of actually collecting the traps

I'll kick it up again if/when I try to active BM to 500

[sour oasis]

😂

[rugged token]

stormcaller critting for 650m

[paper sail]

When I was working up to vial8, I literally just filtered froges lmao. Could not be asked to deposit those every 20 minutes

..I think I didn't have Ram companion back then either so was relying on the 30min TK Storage

[sour oasis]

ram qol improvement is ridiculous

[cerulean hemlock]

Two more A's to go

[next temple]

if you had a +5 premium agi stone, where would you use it..or is it basically irrelevant

[cerulean hemlock]

I would use it for random premium hats

[paper sail]

I'm using mine WIS/AGI/STR on my 3x Snoozy caps, since I pass those around during Sampling. Not a huge difference though

[cerulean hemlock]

maybe for Catcher?

[cerulean hemlock]

P2W :p

Now I've killed chat..? 🥺

[crude cobalt]

hi guys

[cerulean hemlock]

hello

[crude cobalt]

I got my king door pet before reach world 5

[cerulean hemlock]

Mhmm

You need to get to W5 for buffs to work.

[paper sail]

King Door 🧎

[crude cobalt]

and seems like it doesn’t work for me now

Already get on W5 this morning

[uncut marsh]

It works look lab

[proud pumice]

you need lvl 2 div

[tacit tulip]

Doot is active if the character you're logged into has at least level 2 divinity

Get everyone to 2 and it'll be perma active

[crude cobalt]

So it means all god should be linked to all of my characters automatically right?

[proud pumice]

if you have lvl 2 div

[crude cobalt]

Oh shit

Haha thx

[next temple]

do you not also have to unlock the gods for doot? geez

[tacit tulip]

technically doot is always active - you just need div2 to get the benefits. It's why you need w5 to use him 😄

[crude cobalt]

Ok thx

[uncut marsh]

Oh did not know

[crude cobalt]

Btw if pet trade already install by lava?

[tacit tulip]

Besides purmep minor link, nope, but there's alternate reasons to do divinity (Minor bonuses scale off of div level, blessigns need gods unlocked)

[crude cobalt]

Damn I have two doot already but no slug

Lmao

[next temple]

like I know it's busted either way, but just seems like it could have been slighty less busted if you actually had to put in the time to earn the div points to get all the unlocks

[tacit tulip]

Trust me - well travelled territory. Everyone agrees with that statement 😄

[uncut marsh]

Haha same game refused to give me slug

[crude cobalt]

Yes

25lv of all talents sounds even better than doot…

[uncut marsh]

Ye at first

[crude cobalt]

Since I only unlocked two gods lol

[uncut marsh]

Wait till you have doot for a while

[tacit tulip]

forgive me if I don't give you much sympathy 😛

[uncut marsh]

Its busted

[crude cobalt]

😂😂😂😂😂

[uncut marsh]

But sheepie and ram is busted also

[keen rapids]

Tf you okay man?

[crude cobalt]

Yeah helped me a lot on early game

Specially ram

[rugged token]

TD number goes brr

[crude cobalt]

Two slug from free

How dare u

[tacit tulip]

I make do with what I have 🥲

[keen rapids]

i got 1 of all free exept doot and crystals.

[rugged token]

Finally i'm free. Bed time now

[keen rapids]

Gonna overtake you in progress 😉

[tacit tulip]

Anyone who doesn't overtake me is disappointing

I am laziness incarnate

My progression is purely because I've never switched the game off

[cerulean hemlock]

I have around 1k of non-active, but literally playing the game

Not light surveliience like TD

[uncut marsh]

Wow gz to 170

[wide halo]

What should be my next 100s bubble 🤔 probs le brain tools right

[cerulean hemlock]

👍

Not a bad choice

[tacit tulip]

anything that ups your chopping samples is generally a decent shout

[wide halo]

Alr

[uncut marsh]

Fk my mining is like 2x my chopping

[wide halo]

How

[uncut marsh]

Maybee should focus chopping

[wide halo]

I wish my mining was twice my choppin

[tacit tulip]

Mining is still good just chopping is better

It'd only be a mistake if you'd focused fish or bugs

[uncut marsh]

Kk ty

[wide halo]

Damn..

[uncut marsh]

Well got all mining cards atleast 3star

Most chopping 2star

Working on them atm tho

[swift hatch]

I need to actually book my characters and resample lolol

they are very close to each other lol

[uncut marsh]

Any advice on gaming btw? Do you guys always claim all or try to get one plant max evo?

Holy how much atom u packing sakori?

[cerulean hemlock]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1183482341474172938
Hopefully I don't crash and burn, yes?

[fallen torrent]

Sakori i am saddened by these logs. wheres the 1B

[weak vector]

one/two more days

[barren otter]

same

why no 1B

[fallen torrent]

nice tony, whats your wave count?

[weak vector]

gz on your tips-n-tricks btw

[cerulean hemlock]

Shh Sakori got no time

[cerulean hemlock]

Ty

[weak vector]

only 150; would've been faster if i pushed to 170

[fallen torrent]

dang how long did it take you to get 900m of those souls

it looks similar to mine

[weak vector]

uhh i think one full charge (18k) was 300m souls

[fallen torrent]

😮

[weak vector]

i have to math rq...

[fallen torrent]

im not even getting like 100M of blue souls somehow

[barren otter]

IT has a souls thing calc

[cerulean hemlock]

Only three full charges

[barren otter]

oh I meant to reply to your I have to math

[weak vector]

that's like 2m souls per worship i think

[fallen torrent]

i have to up the W4 one hm hm

[weak vector]

err no, 200k

[fallen torrent]

let me check something on my side here cause i dont understand how you can get that much compared to me

W4 we got the same amount, how fast did it take you

[weak vector]

i thought that IE/IT don't include vman for it tho?

[barren otter]

it should

[cerulean hemlock]

🤣

[fallen torrent]

Whats your setup like when claiming souls..

[cerulean hemlock]

So.. 600 full charges?

[weak vector]

uhh that's definitely not 200k

yeah i got 2m souls per worship

[fallen torrent]

im getting 400k purple soul...

[barren otter]

yup

it is indeed not counting it

lol

[fallen torrent]

i have .10k% differene than you, but 1.6mil difference in soul claim?

i have everything pretyt much same as you

[weak vector]

what is your efficiency?

[upbeat panther]

vman skill maxed?

for more souls

[fallen torrent]

wich oine? 😮

oh the vman talent

[weak vector]

@fallen torrent

[fallen torrent]

might that!

let me verify

[weak vector]

i may have more combined levels in worship than you too

[fallen torrent]

yeah mine is lv 52

let me fix that on his Skilling setup

forgot about that skill

[barren otter]

weird my bad I thought he fixed it to count vman

[weak vector]

all good

[flat forge]

Probably infinity-starsigned by now, no?

[upbeat panther]

yea but you can double it

[flat forge]

:o what

no way

[upbeat panther]

with lab chip along with

[fallen torrent]

1482M effiency on worship @weak vector

860k Souls on Purploe but we have 10 wave difference, can it be why i am 1.2mil under?

[barren otter]

or food effect %

[weak vector]

lmao i didn't even have the right star signs on

still had my active DR star signs on

[upbeat panther]

this helps too

[fallen torrent]

1546M effiency i have lot more than him

i have 37% more on my soul food

time for me to try and boost my W4 tower game and equal him and see if 10 wave is that much of a big diff

[tacit tulip]

I can never remember exacts but it's something like a 7% gain per max wave level

[fallen torrent]

oh damn okay so 10 wave 70% difference that might be why

[teal lynx]

This is probably not a linear 7% and 10 waves would give you nearly double souls

[fading oracle]

does time candy affect cranium cooking cooldown?

[teal lynx]

I don't think so, but never tested it

[paper sail]

All active kills do though, thanks to Tentacle Eye

[fading oracle]

Ye waiting for my 20 Book Checkout to get it to Lvl 200

[fallen torrent]

soyeah okay, im going to push clash of clan TD 😄

[tacit tulip]

hmm less than 7% at any rate

looks like each totem works the same, both my cans and waka are at 130 and give the same souls per worship attempt

but my acorn gives a notable amount more at 140

that's a 20% increase for 10 waves

so it's closer to 2% per wave

[paper sail]

What are you doing with all these poor souls?

[fallen torrent]

going to pump my nubmers up to finish those vials 🙂

[paper sail]

How strong of worship food effect are you looking at?

I finished all my soul vials with 130 and lower max waves

[fading oracle]

@scoli you just added construction buildings so good 🙂

[fallen torrent]

i have 283%

or 295 with card set

it is better the skill eff card set right though

[tacit tulip]

I'd probably take the food effect honstly, eff is poor on worship and trapping

[fallen torrent]

oh oh okay ^^

[weak vector]

how much does worship power affect it?

[paper sail]

IE's worship totem section is the best place to play with the numbers and see

[weak vector]

only reason I ask is Scoli you have level 99 worship statue (I assume it's onyxed?) but mine is 39 un-onyxed

so that could've been a large factor in your gains

[paper sail]

Gotcha. It isn't great, let's say that lol

I'll demo real quick

[fallen torrent]

my soul is 92

and onyxed, so tony i dont think it affect that much

[weak vector]

then i have no idea why i got so many more souls than you

[fallen torrent]

other wise why would you have 1.2mil more than me for just 10 wave diff

[paper sail]

Alright, so comparing only the card sets

[sick sentinel]

Species epoch us pretty huge if you have a dif there

[weak vector]

i don't think it's the card set, he has more eff and more soul gain from food

[fallen torrent]

might be my vman being lower lvl than ur

i think i ahve like 20% diff with you in %

you 209 and im 187 or something round that

[paper sail]

No set: 2235m, 380% = 221,179 souls at Glub
Food set: 2235m, 395% = 228,090 souls
Eff set: 2603m, 380% = 228,710 souls. Look at that, Eff is actually giving me better results In the olden days, I definitely got better results from Food set instead. I wonder when the switchover happens.

[fallen torrent]

i also have millions of statue to drop in eventually but im keeping em

[weak vector]

I'm only at 220 on that skill instead of 245, but for me it's 5.24% per level, so I would have 101% more souls than you

[cerulean hemlock]

gmush are souls
right?

And beans

so i guess..

we kill them again

[fallen torrent]

well i guess imma just have to pump some lvl into my vman

[cerulean hemlock]

is it labeled steroids?

[fallen torrent]

i can get some quick easy ones

i dont share my knowledge

of drugs

[cerulean hemlock]

What drugs? 😉

[fallen torrent]

i mean scoli, the increase is pretty MINIMUM to like 620 souls....soooo i think you just hit the switchover

the same as in the potion of asteric

asterix

[cerulean hemlock]

What's that again?

[fallen torrent]

idk you tell me

[cerulean hemlock]

😦 Drugs?

[fallen torrent]

what is sthat

[cerulean hemlock]

No idea

Something to do with Time Candies

[bold quiver]

will this give me the 1 week achiev? yes right ?

[fallen torrent]

wich one is it

[bold quiver]

or is there some hidden stuff behind it

[zinc torrent]

I don't see why not

[bold quiver]

gracias muchacho

[fallen torrent]

what achievement is it?

[bold quiver]

1 week afk

[fallen torrent]

wich world was it 😮

[bold quiver]

yay - w2

[teal lynx]

Classic Achievement to get during W5

[bold quiver]

exactly! i got it at w5

[fallen torrent]

its a secret achievement? i dont see it anywhere in my achievement

[bold quiver]

just took me a few months

[bold quiver]

need to search better!

[teal lynx]

W2 top row, right side

[bold quiver]

even the hidden achievs are being shown

So my bits went from 1,49B to 1,53B claim on a leaf

[fallen torrent]

oh dang i didnt see it, mine was done a long time ago

when i left teh game for a year or so xD

just got a 58M nugget, i am happy with it

[bold quiver]

2,61% increase!

[fallen torrent]

58.7m

[fading oracle]

does vman skill for increased critters gained apply when setting traps or when collecting them?

[paper sail]

Setting

[bold quiver]

i'd say thats worth it

[fallen torrent]

i cant wait to set my traps anew again and perfect them

[upbeat panther]

i love doing TD and getting to 100+ and then the game freezes

[fading oracle]

so it doesnt matter when i doesnt have it active when collecting on BM?

[fallen torrent]

gotta wait for my green salt to finish it'scycle

do you hide dmg? hp monster bar?

[bold quiver]

i couldnt do TD on mobile, game would always crash

very poor optimization unfortunately

[tacit tulip]

poison froge was a bit better than I thought, this was 170% this morning

[bold quiver]

thats nice where did u stop at

[tacit tulip]

haven't stopped yet, gonna go to at least 8

might do 9 depends how insane I feel

[bold quiver]

oh damn

at least it will help u finishing the critter vials, those take a shit ton of time

[tacit tulip]

aye

this will get me to a 1b stack of normal froges too

which helps a little

[bold quiver]

indeed

i stopped mine at lvl 6. I will push it further if we get new critters at w6

[fallen torrent]

when claiming critter, best to use the drone or bm?

[paper sail]

No difference except BM's shiny rate talent (as in collecting with BM vs collecting on a DK)

[bold quiver]

same

[fallen torrent]

okay so if i want shiny i go BM

[tacit tulip]

I'm only doing it cause I'm running BM to 500 - just leaving the eagle eye page up

[bold quiver]

nicee, did u get everyone else to 500 already?

the easy to level ones at least

[tacit tulip]

I'm on...5? I think?

[paper sail]

There's a good chance you already have more than enough Shiny Chance without the BM talent though. You can go look at the trap and verify

[tacit tulip]

ES SB DK Bubo Vman

[fallen torrent]

alright im almost securing clash of clan 140

[tacit tulip]

Doing BM/BB then I'll do the class duplicates after

[bold quiver]

oh cool then, at the final leg

wouldnt it be better to do the duplicates first while BM and BB level offline at wurms?

[fallen torrent]

but im using the prayer though, is it worth it if going for shiny? yes? no?

prayer on for shiny, off for regular?

[bold quiver]

i got bothof mine to 487 that way

[tacit tulip]

yeah I just want all the family bonuses at 500. Nothing I ever do is optimal 😄

[paper sail]

It is mandatory if you want shinies, yes. Wear it

[fallen torrent]

okay i was doing good then 🙂

[bold quiver]

haha its fine, just said cuz people underestimate how much exp u get offline there , so u might not have known haha

[paper sail]

The prayer doesn't harm/benefit normal critters or exp in any way

[fallen torrent]

ohh 😄

[rough wasp]

What’s ur achievement bit gain?

[bold quiver]

220

[teal lynx]

845x

[fallen torrent]

good, i couldnt use BM for my TD run, but im clearing 140, i wonder if i can push 150 or 160

[bold quiver]

202 (x667) the last achevs im missing are too annoying

i wil rather get a 200M+ nugget to compensate

[bold quiver]

do u have all achievments? O.O

[teal lynx]

Missing 3 achievements. 1m Plunders, 7 Breedability (Impossible for now) and 1000 chems (getting close to that one)

[bold quiver]

damn tahts impressive congrats

[fallen torrent]

i am lazying on many easy achievement... xD

[teal lynx]

I did like 10-15 achievements the last 2 weeks

[fallen torrent]

i have about 10 overall left

[paper sail]

I've only finished 215 achievements lol

[fallen torrent]

13 to be exact* and some of them are just mini game record

[bold quiver]

im missing chopping minigame, fishing minigame and no bites fishing achiev, those 3 are too hard to me

[teal lynx]

228 Achievements done, currently possible 230. I want an achievement section in the Review Bot

[paper sail]

You gonna provide me a tierlist?

[teal lynx]

Hell no

Just write "Git Gud" behind the Achievements

[bold quiver]

mob respawn achievs?

[pastel bramble]

any moment now t7 surely right

[bold quiver]

didnt know they exist

oh that sucks

[fallen torrent]

i cleared all T6

[bold quiver]

thats a better one

[fallen torrent]

now praying for T7

dang i should get that achievement done, i have that available

[bold quiver]

lava is not the brighest when it comes to difficulty vs reward on stuff

[fallen torrent]

After TD xD

[paper sail]

I need to finish the w2 version. Only ever made 1 trophy

[barren otter]

i have 2 T7s

[prime cloud]

Where are people farming Plunderous Kills? I'm averaging 6k ish a day if I'm lucky

[paper sail]

Citringes are the highest /hr

[prime cloud]

Thx, how many are people averaging per hour?

[barren otter]

think ppl were saying 1k/hr

but its been a while since ive done it myself

[bold quiver]

citrines i get around 800

it sucks

[prime cloud]

Sound, my SB has been massively ignored tbh so it's lacking in comparison to my other chars

[barren otter]

oh if it wasnt obvious but in order to get a kph that high you need the vman eclipse lvl

[prime cloud]

280000m dmg :/

[prime cloud]

Aye I've got it maxed

[muted plover]

how big is schow in ladles gains ?

[bold quiver]

@barren otter did u manage to get your 1B nugget?

[barren otter]

no but im happy with what i got

[bold quiver]

what as it

[barren otter]

338mil

[bold quiver]

oh =[

sad for u

[barren otter]

its okay

im halfway to the superbit now

so in a few days i can ignore gaming forever

[fallen torrent]

338mil nugget? damn

[bold quiver]

thats good at least, it was worth it

what is your superbits mult now?

[sour oasis]

the 100m kills dont effect ladle gain

[bold quiver]

oh damn, thats very good

walk in the partk to get that bits then

[barren otter]

funny enough

that bit multi is 1/2 of what contract had

cause my snail is shit

[fallen torrent]

snail lv herus?

[barren otter]

20

[bold quiver]

did he ha 7e27?

[barren otter]

contract had 23

[fallen torrent]

damn, i have to farm atom to get that snail protection eventually

i went to lv 20 without it, im scared now

Mr World Wide no protection

[paper sail]

To expand on what Shiggy said, Super CHOWs directly increase the cook speed listed on your tables. No change to ladle gains per day.

[muted plover]

dammit

[bold quiver]

yeaah, back in the day we upgraded it without protection

true snailm gaming

[barren otter]

i got mine to 14 before that atom came out

or maybe it was 13

but man that atom was HUGE

[muted plover]

so the only realiable source is the stamp ?

[paper sail]

I didn't even have snail unlocked before the atom came out

[sour oasis]

multitool stamp, shiny critters with base efficiency, cooking eff stamp

[paper sail]

Any source of Skill/Cooking efficiency and AFK gains, yes

[signal dune]

Hey guys, can yall share your max pong score ? I’m tryna see something

[fallen torrent]

27.6k

[amber dagger]

If I want more kills In killroy should I use beastmaster or siege ?

[bold quiver]

18k

[teal lynx]

33,375

[signal dune]

yall that got the achievement, any tips?

[teal lynx]

Have luck, pre move and learn how the ball bounces

[paper sail]

SB usually wins in Killroy, but some maps are poopy. I just SB anyway

[bold quiver]

flame lava that created a bad rng game

[amber dagger]

Ight bet thanks

[fallen torrent]

gitgud

[bold quiver]

wuold have been better if it was spaceinvaders based

[teal lynx]

Honestly upgrading the controller in Imports should just give a 1% increase in Points

[fallow aurora]

why do u need rng?

[undone iron]

If you have king doot, and you afk at mobs with mindful style, do you get exp or do you have to be connected to the lab?

[fallen torrent]

+1% per 100 points reached in pingpong for bits

[fallow aurora]

I don't even think its possible for me to get the poing achievement because of the lag

[bold quiver]

cuz at high speed some balls are just impossible to catch

[fallen torrent]

just gitgud

[bold quiver]

so u have to keep trying until u get good rng also

[dim wind]

Same. Every game there’s a 1sec lagg that kills me

[fallen torrent]

its easy at highspeed to get the ennemy

just corner shot the slow ball when you score and then gg

[undone iron]

Need help T.T

[paper sail]

must be afk lab

[teal lynx]

Div needs you to be connected to lab

[bold quiver]

the fact that rng plays a big role is that u wont find a single player that can get over 30k everygame

[undone iron]

Ok thank you!

[signal dune]

How much is the multiplier for ~30k score ?

[signal dune]

Thanks ❤️

[fallen torrent]

is the ping pong multiplier even good. xD

[dim wind]

I guess not judging from those numbers

[signal dune]

It’s better than not having it I guess

[bold quiver]

where are the source code checkers out there

[teal lynx]

I rather have a 2.83x multi than a 2x multi

40% more bits

[bold quiver]

only if its a standalone multiplier

[teal lynx]

Right. I should have checked my Multi at some point

Imagine that multi is the same as the nug multi

[bold quiver]

i think its good, but i also never checked kkkkkkk

i chcked today, 1 achiev gave me 2,68% bits

[obtuse rover]

As far as I'm aware, nearly every modifier for the W5 skills is in its own pool and behaves multiplicatively with other things.

[bold quiver]

where are the source sode players? D:

miss the times in IS when we would ask these kind of stuff in chat and they would always know

[steel linden]

Does leveling snail over level 100 give a chance to get 3 mail instead of 2? Because the chance become 100+%

[obtuse rover]

Many of the knowledgeable players left this place or were removed from this place in the past.

[obtuse rover]

You can get >2 mail if you have sufficient %, yes.

[steel linden]

Awesome thanks

[muted plover]

is there any skill order for active bm ?

[tacit tulip]

not really

the skill order comes from there being so much going on at once

BMs poor respawn skill makes that a non-issue

[dim wind]

basically ignore until next class upgrade

[tacit tulip]

he'd be less terrible with uwu rawr got a CD decrease

not bubo/DK tier, but not terrible

[fallen torrent]

140 cleared, lets do 150!

[muted plover]

i just want some of this

[pine yacht]

which one ?

[obtuse rover]

BM active exists only to get funny shiny pet numbers

And to hit the level 500 milestone.

[lucid olive]

How do you get the purple blob fish?

[paper sail]

Y'all making me want to play active BM after sampling

[paper sail]

Quest at Choccies map in w4

[bold quiver]

poor souls D:

the source guys were important

[pine yacht]

the dumb rule about it being only posted in off topic drove quite few away as well

[bold quiver]

Nice, 1 upgrade on base value fertilizer increase leaf bits from 1,53 to 1,64

[lucid olive]

Does he give them to you? Or are they from trapping after his quest

[bold quiver]

is source code related stuff only allowed to be posted on off topic? O.O

[paper sail]

The quest enables you to trap them like other critters

[lucid olive]

Ah thank you

[pine yacht]

Rule 3 c states "All code-digging into IdleOn must be done in ⁠off-topic-chat, or the appropriate private wiki/bug channels -- breaking this rule will result in a mute and potential ban. The intention of this rule is to stop people from revealing spoilers for clout / to get attention for themselves at the cost of ruining other's enjoyment, and has nothing to do with people posting technical information with the sole effort of helping people understand the game better."

[fallen torrent]

clash of cans TD wave 150. i dont think i'll get it xD

[pine yacht]

ah I am in the W3 one... the 140 is taking quite a bit

[paper sail]

It is there to prevent spoilers for stuff that is in the game code, but not actually released

Though if that secret datamined stuff is on the Wiki, like future classes, it isn't included as being bad by that rule

[obtuse rover]

In practice, people are fine posting code that is meant to help people understand the released mechanics of the game in endgame-talk, as far as I'm aware.

[fallen torrent]

i think i could do clash of lcan with my BM wave 150, but i took all his worship power for soul gain hehe

[pine yacht]

ye but people pointed out that it's way to vague as a rule, meaning it can be implemented as per lava's needs

[bold quiver]

i see, makes sense

some people just wanna spoil the fun of everyone

better prevent that

[paper sail]

Always makes me slightly nervous when I talk about stuff just in the json for my tool, but I trust mods to handle any issues calmly and politely

[pine yacht]

"Always makes me slightly nervous" this is exactly why people hated the rule when it got introduced

rule as a rule is in fact needed, just should have been worded/implemented better

[paper sail]

Context is important. Sometimes people think I'm asking because I'm trying to cheat lol. Like nah fam, just trying to understand what's already there

[pine yacht]

ayy

[obtuse rover]

It is.
I've run into trouble before because of talking about the excel sheets and macros I use to run stats for Idleon, so it's definitely important to try to be clear when talking about programmy things that it's not being used for cheating purposes.

[quasi galleon]

😅

[obtuse rover]

It's tough for mods to monitor the implied context of whatever's being said in chat, so messages can look sus on their own, for sure.

[paper sail]

For sure. I'd love a more code-centric channel than just off-topic lol

[obtuse rover]

That's fair.
Between you and Camp and people making utilities like that for people, I can see how it'd be nice to have a dedicated space for that sort of discussion.

[paper sail]

Half the time, the info I'm after is already in some spreadsheet somewhere and I'm just too smooth brained to see what they're doing

[polar sigil]

Finally got evergreens in gaming, now time to fail at getting chem for ages lol.

[quasi galleon]

I try to always find the context for a message as well as to look into a user's history, but I am human still.

[obtuse rover]

Parsing through someone else's code or spreadsheets is miserable if they're not documented well, and they're almost never documented well.

[quasi galleon]

Which is why I had absolutely zero issue undoing the mistake when I hit Frumheldt. He didn't deserve it and I made it right immediately.

[paper sail]

Yeah, stuff happens 😛 I trust to be able to discuss and resolve

[fallen torrent]

Scoli is our savior. we cant lose him

[sullen sleet]

for sailing, Im getting tired of checking every 2-4 hours, whats the best method for checking less often?

[fallen torrent]

to check less often.

ç

[quasi galleon]

Just do it

[sullen sleet]

like should I use the SB skill that replaces lower chests?

[obtuse rover]

If you really want, you can either turn on the thing that ignores low-tier chests or you can use the SB talent to allow chests to overwrite each other.
But in general you're losing out by not checking constantly, so you need to make peace with that.

[sullen sleet]

or dont and just accept the lost time?

[paper sail]

Sad but true lol. If you are planning on 12+ hour checks, i think minimum filter to Iron is better than SB11 talent

[sullen sleet]

ok, so minimum iron chest would be better

[obtuse rover]

SB talent is good for checking like once a day or so, or if your priority is sailing/captain exp.

[paper sail]

I wouldn't recommend SB11 unless you're checking once every few days, just for the sailing and captain exp

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, I check sailing like twice a week so I use the SB talent just to watch the exp stack up over time

[quasi galleon]

I use the SB talent and get Occult chests often enough, so I find it to be worth it

[paper sail]

It does feel nice to see the pretty chests

[pine yacht]

Guess Beefy and Balance of Pain both at the same time were jsut too much for me XD

[fallen torrent]

yeah it savage your stat hardà

[pine yacht]

oof

[obtuse rover]

Wurms are a very large step up in damage compared to any other mob in the game, so running double prayers was a big issue for a lot of people early W5 (after wurms were patched, they were bugged on world release to have the softest hits of any W5 mobs)

[teal lynx]

Average W5 Rush account defence

[paper sail]

And that's why we click FMJ sometimes

[pine yacht]

not even

[paper sail]

I hate having to take off Beefy before going to Wurms

[pine yacht]

with mana is life I at least can take 3 hits XD

[bold quiver]

need more hp

[pine yacht]

time to book def and hp talents XD

[obtuse rover]

Is that against normal wurms?
You might get into a real pickle when the crystal mobs show up.

[paper sail]

At least HP yeah

[pine yacht]

oh ye... for sure

crystals will be really fun

imma need to atom the Smart Boi just to actually get talent points for those

dunno if it's worth more to atom FMJ or Talents

[cyan hazel]

So, the ES is just notoriously bad about causing desync huh?

I hate how far out of wack it can push things. My daily reset used to be around 11pm. Now it is like 4am or later.

[fallen torrent]

i mean, you get free Hours of afk gain

XD

[paper sail]

At the cost of lost Active time Not worth lol

[pine yacht]

another option for me is actually using stones on my gear XD

[paper sail]

You can turn off enemy HP bars and turn on the blur filter in the settings. That can help the desync a decent amount

[obtuse rover]

My poor weekly reset was pushed literally like 4-5 days away from where it started over a very long amount of ES gameplay.

[fallen torrent]

thats what i do

and i put my screen as a very small screen

[cyan hazel]

Ouch. Mine hasn't been that bad yet. And it seems to mitigate it a bit if you go back to your character select screen before the daily reset. But that sucks.

[obtuse rover]

My reset used to be midday on Wednesday, but now it's midday on a Monday.

[paper sail]

Wow lol

[fallen torrent]

honestly i usually get 37 min 1hr desync over maybe 10-12hr

[paper sail]

Think I drifted about 2 hours total. Certainly not whole days

[pine yacht]

silver pocketwatch can fix that but too bad it's so limited

[prisma drift]

My reset is midnight

I hate my reset

[obtuse rover]

I played far too much ES, active for far too long each session

[fallen torrent]

my reset is 17h30

[tacit tulip]

there's a couple of factors that make the ES lag worse:

1. Intel CPUs deal with the lag much better than AMD, from experience.
2. The game lags much worse if you don't have idleon as the active window. If you turn your monitors off at night this counts as it being inactive, which exacerbates the lag

[fallen torrent]

perfect for me to do stuff while enjoying my dinner

[pine yacht]

oh cool, no wonder I have it so fucking bad, AMD processor and I turn off my monitor

[tacit tulip]

I'm only like 90% sure on the AMD/Intel thing. My processor is stronger than my wives but hers is intel - and runs the game considerably better

the nother devices, intel runs the game better

[paper sail]

I have AMD and turn off my monitors too, but don't get bad desync. Maybe those just make it worse

[tacit tulip]

yeah it definitely worsens the problem rather than causes it

[paper sail]

Just don't play ES, problem solved

[cyan hazel]

Had the blur feature on but didn't turn off the hp bars

[snow light]

there is another setting for hp bars

[obtuse rover]

This is my plan

[cyan hazel]

Well, I am only 4 characters away from everyone at 500 so I won't be playing ES active for awhile when he gets to 500 in 6 1/4 levels.

[paper sail]

I'm just using holy pearls on my ES 😦

BM is next after that, but, sample prep first.

[cyan hazel]

I am trying to save some up for the ones I am worried about later on, Vman, BB, and BM

Mainly the BB and Vman.

[paper sail]

Vman is the fastest of those 3

[cyan hazel]

I was hoping so but just have a fear he won't be as quick as I hoped. Lol

[tacit tulip]

his much higher crystal chance mroe than makes up for his lack of respawn

[paper sail]

I regret using as many pearls on vman as I did. They're 504 now i think from CCD daily

[cyan hazel]

Nice. Alright.

And it'll be even better for me since he is only lv417 where my 2nd lowest is the BB at 449. So, Vman will get the gaming exp boost as well. Should work out nicely?

*Noobie Gains from Gaming Super Bits

[paper sail]

I'd recommend your Lowest be the one you take to Crystal Island too

Whoever that may be

[fallen torrent]

crystal island take the highest lvl char as exp threshold?

[cyan hazel]

Yeah, that is the plan moving forward. I am slowly getting everyone to 500 and then switch all my exp gear and such over to the next and leaving crystal island alone to build up some crystals.

[paper sail]

Not sure, honestly. Just big exp that tends to get overlooked

[dim wind]

looks odd to see a bigger copper than oak sample

[paper sail]

That is odd 🤔

Are you below 300 multi-gather chance? That tends to be the cause

The chopping bubble sucks to level compared to mining

[dim wind]

not sure, I'll have to have a good look in a bit

[teal lynx]

Did u activate Logs on Logs?

[paper sail]

And you did turn on the Logs on Logs buff before sampling? That's secondary common culprit

[teal lynx]

For Log Sampling on an ES. Can you second link to Arctis -> Activate Logs on Logs -> Second Link to Goat ?

[zealous niche]

Seems like it’d work

[paper sail]

I imagine the effect of the buff goes down, similar to buffing and then using a respec

[zealous niche]

Oh? I thought buff and respec keeps the buff active

Buffs from alternative presets stay no?

[paper sail]

Not the effects

Easy example is BB no pain no gain

Cast it and switch to skilling spec

You'll get all your hp back despite the buff visually being on

[zealous niche]

There you go, didn’t realise

[teal lynx]

Good. Then I don't have to think about that the next time I sample

[paper sail]

I think I've heard the the minor buff from ES 2nd link doesn't work fully anyway

2nd linking Goat doesn't give other characters AFK gains for sure

[teal lynx]

Then I'm missing 8-10% afk gain right there. I think I always second link goat

[paper sail]

I got better results from Snake and bear than Goat personally

[teal lynx]

First link Bear, second Snake then
Gonna try that next time

Never thought about linking to Bear

[paper sail]

Maybe it is just the account-wide parts that don't get shared

Pretty sure 2nd link Harriep doesn't give money to other characters, but maybe it still does to the ES

[teal lynx]

A problem that could be solved by Doot

[sour oasis]

The urge to drop 40$ to get doot grows sronger by the day

I will resist

[rich epoch]

if I had door I'd get my rank 11 back

[teal lynx]

500$*

[sour oasis]

Do not encourage gacha mechanics

[paper sail]

Let me caveat all of that by saying I tested that probably 3 months ago lol. It may have changed and warrant testing again

[rich epoch]

I mean I understand but will you pass a good pack with some green gems?

[teal lynx]

Yes, unless its a good account multi

[paper sail]

If the rest of the pack is worth it without considering the cost of gems into it, sure

I'm not buying just straight gems

[rich epoch]

will you pass a good pack?

yes unless it is good

🤔

that's what I meant by a good pack. lmao

[teal lynx]

An item could also be good

But I do get it. Then no, I would not pass - I would take my 3 "free" summons

[sour oasis]

The last and as far as i recall only good green gem pack was the one with the vine cape

[rich epoch]

yeah. I won't ever buy green gems by themselves but I got the dr pack and it had some green gems

[teal lynx]

That was the worst one :O

The only good one was the dr multi pack that had 1000 green gems

[sour oasis]

Oh right the dr multi one is crazy

[rich epoch]

I spent my end of the year gaming budget on it and I don't regret it

I play idleon a lot

even got ram out of it

[teal lynx]

Got Sandpots and a molti from it haha

[rich epoch]

if I bought other games I wouldn't be able to play them anyway

[paper sail]

Funny how I used to spend 15 per month on an mmo sub, but 15 here in IdleOn seems bad

Blue Gems are boring content to buy

[rich epoch]

yeah, I honestly fell better spending the ocasional money on idleon than payin monthly subscriptions

but blue gems is absolutely the most boring purchase ever

[sour oasis]

its not like its a lot of money its more the concept of what you are spending it on

[paper sail]

That's why I don't mind the Packs. Even old holiday packs and such

[rich epoch]

before that I got the afk purple wings set I don't even know when and now the dr one

[teal lynx]

Starter Pack, Autoloot, Dr multi, afk wings, snooze cap and some pack that gave me the ram hat (+xp)
I think those are all the ones I bought

I find that is fair enough for nearly 4000 hours

[paper sail]

I am tempted to get starter pack for the storage space lol

The rest is meh

[rich epoch]

I think I've got those cept the snooze pack 🤔

[teal lynx]

snooze cap is crazy for sampling

[paper sail]

I'd buy another 3x Snooze if i could

[rich epoch]

but I also understand why people don't wanna spend on these.

except not getting auto loot those people are crazy

[rich epoch]

oh, maybe when I can buy another one I'll keep that in mind

[paper sail]

It's the whole f2p model in general. I'm more generous with Lava as a way to say Thanks for not making me watch Ads

[teal lynx]

It's "only" 10% afk, but afaik there is no better hat

[paper sail]

I believe the Corgi hat is the same stats, just different visual

[rich epoch]

gg p2w /j

[paper sail]

I would have bought if I realized. Missed out

[rich epoch]

noob moment

[paper sail]

Gem shop needs better, full descriptions for equipment sales

Just a picture of some idiot wearing the hat or cape isn't enough

[teal lynx]

Don't think Corgi has afk on it

[rich epoch]

double noob moment

[teal lynx]

They might have used that premium hat swap item

[paper sail]

Oh really? Great, didn't miss anything

Ohhhh right. Forgot that exists

[rich epoch]

a rare triple noob moment

please keep going 🤭

[paper sail]

What else can I confess to

[teal lynx]

Not clicking Colo Tickets everyday?

[paper sail]

I didn't try Killroy until 2+ months in

I didn't try party dungeon until 2+ months in too

[modern plaza]

party dungeon is scary initially

[teal lynx]

Party Dungeons are overrated and too easy

[modern plaza]

killroy wasn’t attempted for me until like 4 months in for me 😅

[paper sail]

I didn't want some stranger to be disappointed in me I always heard grumbles of noobs wasting their 20x or 40x run so I just didn't do it

[modern plaza]

lol. now it’s only 2 decent players to carry it tbh

[sour oasis]

I didnt touch kilroy after entering w2 for a few months

so many missed extra seconds

[paper sail]

And holy pearls

I kept buying refinery cycles

[modern plaza]

yeah definitely start killroy asap. it’s like worth doing the 300gem reset to catchup on it

[paper sail]

I'm sure in a few months, I'll be talking about how I should have been doing PO6 resets for Colo Tickets once w5 and w6 Colo come out and are OP a.f.

[sour oasis]

farming stuff for po6 😭

( i have never spammed po 6 so i dont know if its actually that bad)

[barren otter]

@paper sail Scoli (AutoReview Bot)

[broken light]

Is there a chart that shows what each sailing boat upgrade does? I want to know what the big jumps are

[paper sail]

IE's sailing is a good spot. Loot jumps every 8, speed jumps every 7 upgrade

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-5/sailing > Boats > Mouse over any boat

[broken light]

thanks!

[gaunt nymph]

can you use pearls and bloons on divinity?

[dim wind]

& @paper sail yep it was logs on logs