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got my 5th bean today
I'm actually a Copium salesman
hm is it possible to like. skip a free pet rotation?
oh wait no nvm,
misscalculated the hours xD
theres so much random crap i should do, but just dont have the time for it all so i get lost trying to do any of it lol
welp I like 10x my other non oak log samples since I skipped them last time so that's more hourlies
Pick a few short-term goals and don't stress if they're most efficient
The free doot compium worked for me 
Any progress is better than none
I got free Rift Slug and it is only a few x higher chance
I believe 
got the first page of recipes to 40. trying not to burn all ladles since i still need the 100k but i my vman upgrade brought a few down to like.. 1 minute for next level lol
which is going to bring his talent even higher for the higher meal levels, might have to do another cycle lol
god I wish I had doot just so I don't have to go on each individual character to select a god, sample, then unlink them and reassign gods all over again
i know im making progress, im almost 500 larry now and thatll help start boosting bubbles for boosting atoms which will boost bubbles yada yada, just to much to do man
Oh yeah. This game turned into a lot more than I expected when I first started ๐
almost got w3 onyx'd, and next week is choco so thall get me w2 and w4, so thatll be nice
too long, wouldnt really recommend anymore although cardifiers have way bigger and harsher priorities/grind. (I did a ton of intervals, but would easily add up to several+ hours. also depends on DR)
does anybody know roughly how much chopping efficiency you need to hit the 1b sample?
at least 3
I mean you're not wrong
Hey all,
I will be MIA for like a week, my computer is acting up big time and cant get it to work. Will probably bring it by to someone to look at on Monday. Still have my laptop etc. but I don't really do discord much here. So guess it'll just be offline Gmush for now, rip Beans 
If anyone is a ๐ป ๐ง and thinks they may know how to solve/fix stuff. Feel free to DM me. (TLDR: everything on my PC stops responding about 30s after start up)
I think I'm pretty close and it was about 1.8T when I checked the other day I believe
he had 5T eff and 371% afk gains
I was about 1.8T and 406% afk
fdisk and format 
i just had my boot drive fail last week, Great time
i hate sara 
ily
u werent here for hh
when's the gud xmas pack so i can get gems for my divinity ๐ฆ

was eating
Probably catch flak but gimme a Snoozy + Green Gem pack 
Blue Gems are just w6 prep for me rn
Fine but not as enticing as maybe a Doot
yup all i want for xmas is blue gems and a Doot too
My loose plan is prepping 10k blues for w6 release, assuming we get a week or more notice. Already about at 6k over 5k
Tempting, but i use 2x 2tb SSDs. and windows is on there with a lot more than just windows ๐ฆ
^ better option, buy new PC
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yeah, just means i have to do another speed run, i dinked up last time and didnt resample the right ones
i have 10 vials on lvl 12, its just figuring out which ones are simplest, and thatll clear an entire page of my storage so i stop grumping about that to lol, cuz ive been saving instead of turning them in
farm Colo and/or chizoar for gems. literal infinite gem trick
good luck with that you are being missed hope the pc can get fixed soon (and preferably cheap) 
I'd bet my money on some connection malfunctioning for some reason but I have no money and don't understand any computer
beside speaking machine
so big fat ass grain of salt
What order should I use my 245 books? I was thinking upgrade all my skill efficiency skills first and resample?
which colo?
Ty and typically stuff like that costs around 100ish plus whatever the hardware is if that needs replacement. My bet is some corrupted windows files tbh.
Colosseum Purpose:
- Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
- Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
- Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
- Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles, Early-W4 Money.
- Colo 5 = To be released
Note:
- Gold bread seems to only give ~1% of the displayed value, not really worth it - TheContract
thank you, and why chizoar specifically? dont all boss have same chances of dropping gems?
not sure, i always focused on cards i needed, but i assume its loot pickup is faster than amarok. 2nd boss is trash for auto kills, 4th boss is annoying for keys.
personally not sure why it would be boss 3 and not 4-5. Maybe alternative is the statues, if it drops any? hopefully someone else has more insight
3 bc u just get infinite from the colo, amarok loot u only get like half from autoloot
u can do 5 too ngl
but u pretty said everything Trickz 
so i do w2 colo then w3 boss?
no u get the keys from the respective colos, w2 = w2 boss keys; w3 = w3 boss keys
so w3 since 2nd boss trash for auto?
the id rather just do w5. for the normal ruby which takes forever
then again, you typically get a shtton of keys pretty easily in colo. So not like you need to waste too any tickets.
thanks for all the insight guys ๐
We will get lv 10 
I can unlock the snail atom and I'm nowhere near unlocking it
If you link to a star sign that's already infinite do you get double bonus or nah?
If you're using the doubler chip.
Colo4 = you get many Boss Keys. U should save them dor Tรผr Moment where you get the Quest to kill Nightmare Blitzkrieg 100 Times with the same character
oh fuck, I assumed that. bolbi is right, sorry. you need the chip
?
ah thanks for the update, I'm still learning my chips, from doritos to choccy
Was there a schematic for solo dungeon clears for mirror quests?
I wasn't able to find one when I searched but for w2 at least: kill the little curse rock thingy in each map before progressing
If you want I can go waste some dungeon entrances in w3 and report back
And also stuff like job/orb combo
Does the AFK island really not work on mobile ?
as far as I can tell there isn't any special way to handle jobs. You have 10 minutes in the dungeon, you do jobs for more buffs, or kill monsters for more buffs, and you gotta kill the boss 3 times who is already available so I'm about to just try going ham?
do jobs for the first 4-6 minutes and then buy out all of the buffs and then go ham once you've stacked up a bunch of rng item purchases
Correct. Gotta do it on PC.
after my second attempt, yeah, feels impossible to just go ham from the start, gotta build up them buffs
Hope and pray for Horn. Can do without but definitely harder. At least you're working on job completions for achievement
What's the best bar setup for ES to kill Chaotic Kattle within 30 sec
gonna greenstack ax statues before i get onyx
I have one of each elite class and a maestro what class should i give my new characther
I dont have doot so another elemental or?
I believe meta is once you have one of each class then double up on ES, DK and SB
Hey all, I am getting atom particles without the collider being turned on, where are they coming from?
Auto converts stacks at 1050m
Oh ideal
Thought it would be something like that but wanted to check incase it was a stamp or something
Okay thanks
Anything i can do to expedite getting chem plant? I was told to just always roll at .1% and ive been doing that for like 2+ months dozen or so rolls per day and i just cant unlock it. Id kill for better chances.
unfortunately no, it's just all about that rng
pretty much it's just turn on kitsune and check whenever you can
Going on multiple months of rolling it and feel like its impossible to progress unless i somehow get lucky.
tbf that's kind of just how all of us have unlocked chem
i went super long before i finally got chem
claiming atleast every 2h
this is moving so painfully slow, i dont get why
cause it is just slow
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sb doesn't spawn as many crystals when you're at wurms
i was hoping plunder mobs would make up for it

is there a forum i can read to help me improve my kill afk rate
am i missing a lot that come from mob drops?
is that it?
yes
wdym?
all the recipes for anvil V
no
suggma recipe never fails to amaze me
quite the luck yes
whats better to do with cactus - grow it instantly and w8 for next plant or wait till it max out?
personally i wait until all my plant spaces are filled, it makes sure you get the most possible value out of the cactus but its up to you
i dont harvest plants until im full
almost there
how do you even get so many balls?
but what should i try and max next?
yeah i also dont really ever do killroy, but the few times i do, i buy balls
also forge cap is a must
already maxed that tho
Hey i wanna ask if there is an apk for android (widget) so i can see ingame things like active skill (combustion/trapping, etc) in phone display screen
IE or IT
oh widget
yea but an app
didnt see that part sry
IE and IT probably the best u got
i doubt someone made an app
unless lava does (which i think is unlikely at this point) i dont think any1 else will
unless the player count grows significantly
it probably wouldn't be too hard to make one for mobile tbh
Is it better to eldritch as you go or explore to furthest island then go back?
Finally hit a 1 milli nug after like 10
upgrades since equinox
Got most ancients up to where I am but eldritchs seem to take a while longer
I targeted important artifacts first, so eldritch speed and Ancient crystal steak for you
If you have 2 hour travel times to fury push that
Put hamsters on everyone and omni on who you can to help
thank all the 10 gods in done with sailing
also praying to Omniphau will help you 
ok I've encountered a problem, I don't know why I got 21 tickets and joined HH which cost only 20 tickets
when I left dungeon, I got 0 tickets left
and I only got 1 dice when the dungeon finished
any idea?
or maybe it's something related with prayer?
I've not equipped the dungeon prayer
but I've unlocked no more praying in superbits
do people actually push to max this one out after the other boxes are done? I feel like the diminishing returns are already hitting too hard
if u do a happy hour with the prayer on, if you have less than 40 tickets, it counts as if u only used 1 ticket
im assuming the no more praying thing activating it causes the same issue
basically make sure u got 40 tickets or more before doing a dung during happy hour
but it cost all my 21 tickets
yup
100%!
sure
What's meant with the kitsune roxie upgrade? Faster active bonus? Do you need to be active and then they grow even faster? But a 1% bonus per level for that cost seems off
In my case my Roxie gives 6.05x speed for 3x less bits
Active refers to the state of Roxie (on and off) and bonus is the speed bonus - no need to be actually active for the bonus to apply
Ah okay, so it's just a very expensive upgrade
It's a 2.8Q from 6 to 7 for me, rest is still in the 100 - 500T range
Upgrades scale the same but start at different costs. Atleast that's what it seems like to me - my sprinkler is 10-20 levels ahead of the next item and so on. Every later "Import Item" just has 10-20 levels less than the previous one
Fair enough
Is there any specific thing to focus on? Getting a few Q per harvest, haven't had a 5th evo yet, but it's stalling a bit
Is there like a strategy? Got all plants except chem
I'm sure there's a pinned/!gaming command somewhere
Gaming is mostly about the Sailing Artifacts, A Big Nugget and unlocking Chem - Chem gives you time skips -> More Nuggets -> More Bits
For unlocking Chem u want to hit the Research button after every harvest - if you want to save your sanity you can hit it after every "Harvest all"
Yeah doing that haha
My nugget is only x1200 or smth, so I'll just wait
I check every 8 hours so itll be fine
I'm using my ES to farm this. Am I doing something wrong?
Full droprate cards. and I've been at it, actively, for a week now ...
I think people underestimate how low chances 1/50mil is tbh
trying to level this is taking forever
if you aren't already, it's one of those bubbles that are a really good idea to use the discount on
ye I should
So, I just to keep at it. Tks!
If it helps, it took me a couple of months
You can estimate how lucky/unlucky you are by counting your royal suggma ashes. The drop rate of these is 1000x higher than the recipe, so no matter your DR the average player gets one at about 1000 ashes. Obviously it's very easy to be more/less lucky than this
that feeling when you've been farming the wrong mat up to 1000m
I'd work toward unlocking Ruby cards if you can, then upgrading all the drop rate cards including Mimic instead of that multikill card. The gloves themselves are a pretty meager upgrade for Vman damage. Don't get baited into spending eternity on them.
1111.11m 
I think what threw me off with skilling tiers was I assumed it worked the same as MK
where each tier would need double eff
im at a 2.89 streak atm
so i wont resample before i can hit 1b oak
or i would know how close i am^^
@tall horizon have u GS this? i did the math and it would take me 9k hours of candy
last sample was 290m...so it will be a huge raise
which bubble is most important for log samples, multi-loggo?
Until 300% multi-log chance, yeah probably
really? only 300%?
so what bubble next is most effective then
cause i have 303% already but only 770m sample
It is hard-capped at 300% total from all sources, yes
i have le brain tools level 500, hocus choppus is 1001
mage is best is 1004
not sure what else i can focus for better samples, except maybe just base wis?
What is your multi tool? Iโve seen people get 1b with lower bubbles
Mage is best and Severapurple are probably next best 2 bubbles since they're multiplying many other bubbles
the stamp?
Making sure logs on logs is maxed as well
level 150 on multitool stamp
^ but yeah, there is more to samples than simply alchemy. Stamps, meals, gear, AFK%, obols, lab chips, star signs, etc. all factor in
Statues are massive. That's on my DK so no statue talent
level 321 for sevrapurple
Yeah work on that, most 1b samples are around 190-200, multi tool is real good
most of these i have already just trying to work out what im missing haha
Actually, you speed capped at 62/min?
ah ok thanks ill try getting that up, the issue is invent cap guess i gotta 90% it
wheres this logs on logs thing?
Well, here is the best I can offer. It is basically all info from when I got over 1b log samples: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYl8fAqHkxDoXhINAjO3MiSOB-W2ZUtH9TVhA5w-tK4/edit?usp=sharing
Traps 2023-11-12
Notes,Critters per 40hr Royal,Card,Doubler?,Total Value,49.1% stats from 1321657 Golden Grilled Cheese
Froge- Pow10 efficiency for Invasive Species Hunter talent,10.2m,(1008m in storage),Chaotic Troll,Yes,120% All Skill Efficiency,0% skill exp from 0 Golden Hams
Crabbo- Vial,5.5...
It's the castable Mage buff, similar to Big Pick
ohhh i didnt equip my obols ๐คฆโโ๏ธ that will prob give me another 100m atleast haha
and skill eff is better than afk % for skill set? maybe that will push me over 1bn too
ill try it now ๐ thanks
yeah i used 10% afk rate for my 770m sample
i think it might be enough to push me over then ill report back in 10min ๐
what upgrade first
crit chance maxed
so all points in crit chance now
it will help u the most to beat all dungeon bosses
IMO, evenly into Base Damage, Total Damage, HP, Crit, and Block until 40/100. Then get everything to 20/100. Go back and forth on the groups, keeping the high-prio ones 20 ahead.
especially once u hit rank 40 for the horn of foal on 50% of runs *
I liked that strategy personally. Most of the stats are front-loaded, i.e. 40/100 is already more than 50% of the max possible value
what do i do to survive those green hoppy dudes before 4th granfrogger? i cant tank them. i have the dps otherwise with horn
Similar to weapons, don't skip picking up armor. Block Chance will carry you most of the way, but dungeon armor seems to have hidden Defense on it maybe? I take way less damage wearing blue/purple armors than nothing or white armors
Nope, not even gonna try lol
whats the deal with rings in dungeon? seems like 2+ always wants to replace the first ring, instead of fill the second slot. so i have to micromanage the rings
gah boosted my sample by only 70m
@paper sail guess i gotta focus on multitool stamp ๐
good luck 
lava's coding
sometimes i would end up the dungeon with only 1 ring cuz the game refused to equip the other slot

is '% player contruction xp` bonus on cogs more important than the general % contruct xp on the cog itself?
I was told by someone spear multi hit didn't work unless you were playing on a warrior is this true, was curious if this would work for w5 nightmare boss to deal with moles?
Yes, it is true. That was changed like a year ago
@paper sail so close but yet so far
managed to push it further by tweaking chips
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should be easy to test if beginner still gets the benefit, but archers and mages don't
omg im so dumb my maestro is in combat build not skill build
the left/right hands are at 50/245 ๐
Directional cogs, yes, are a stronger buff
Any alchemy bubble give more star talent points btw?
maestro fixed the issue ๐
does each tab include star y/n?
Nope, there's no infinite source of star points yet
does it matter what char u do red frisbee sample on?
should i do it with a high drop rate char?
oh nvm i got it first try ๐
btw spear does work on the beginner just the really low attack speed makes it not really feasible ๐ฆ
any updated TD spreed sheets ?
if u go to #endgame-gen-chat then guide masterlist then press pins and scroll down ull see new guides for all totems by pancake
they work pretty nicely ๐
i cant access that channel it seems
nvm i reacted to the role ty for that
how high do u guys have this
yh i guess i should atom it a bit, cause its currently being used by nblb
The scaling on it is pretty bad and it is expensive. You can let it stay on the NBLB list.
16k liquid cap
how long u been farming liquids xD
Few weeks after Equinox Liquidvestment came out. Nothing too major
alrighty then i guess i need to catch up on peoples liquids ๐
cause mine is pretty low in comparison ๐
My first guess if you don't have the lab node connected
The better comparison there then is decant levels
most my chars are just farming xp now for level 500 missing 5 so i can just active farm bubo and let them afk at wurms
350 - 394 across the 6
yeah ima active bubo now while waiting for other chars to hit 500
i got the 99% equinox thing so only wasting 1% by afking with it for half a day at a time ๐
Yeah, it was nice qol. Maybe even too strong lol
dont say that until i catch up, dont want him to nerf it ๐
Think I'll get even 1 decent keychain?
@thorn marsh I bet you feel like an absolute fool 
Think I did all my fun stuff for today. Back to beans 
what a ride... glad I could be part of it โค๏ธ
how are our numbers so off since I only have 41 per hour but higher cap n rate?
ah right. I prefer to get GT up
If you're actively around and leveling GT, lab off is the better path
But if I check once an hour then lab better on. I think I rather not need to check ya know
Yup. Just a trade off for activity levels
what I did for mine was:
Asleep/work? Node off and into cap/rate
At home? Node on, and once an hour i'd do my clicks and level GT
I left my node off for 2-3 weeks lol
Figured it was either going to GT when I could check or into decant levels if not ๐คท
and with my newfound exp gains I'm doing stupid stuff like levelling vman ๐
is having the note on still necesary after equinox?
It's not necessary no, I left it on because it means I have to refill my water less often when levelling alchemy/doing GT
It is lovely if you don't want to play Bubo every 3 hours
those hourly clicks slurp up water fast 
ah alr
Must be way more than that surely if you're active bubo
My CC gives me like 3.5k water or something
nah you play something other than bubo, like DK beans
My 1.5k? That was an estimate for what I spend on hourly clicks
the hourly clicks use up your water, so you have to return to bubo to get more
using no lab node when not using bubo would make that hellish
Yeah, I don't remember exactly what my cap is without the node but it isn't lavish lol
just don't click hourly. problem solved. sanity restored 
I crave the progress
I was surprised to find my favourite click was hammer hammer
I've always hated anvil and this makes it less terrible
I'm fast approaching the point where I'll need to be hourly clicking for progress and I am dreading it
my sanity is too low already
its not too bad once you do it
How do obols work for slap? Do i need to get them or does just upgrading work? cuz i have multiple obols that slab says i dont have wile they're in my obol inv
you need to either change maps or look at the slab with the obol in your inventory
that is what I tested
people said that equiping them also works but I didn't test that
either way, yeah. if you upgrade it all the way to purple in one go the Inbetween will most likely not be saved. it is annoying
that what they say about addictions 
you haven't lost if you haven't quit /s
How do I get the equinox star talent "dreamer damage" on all toons?
It's unlocked for all when you get it on one char
It's odd, cause I can only see it on the one :/
did you cloudsave?
Just tried it and it worked, thanks!
Hello everyone ๐
@tall horizon i can easily reach 198 with a few i am missing, then the last 2 would have to be a stretch
we'll see how it goes!
ill follow into your footsteps of greenstacking 
bruh not enough space to upgrade multitool further than 190 ๐ฆ
gotta upgrade ruck sack th ough. eheh
@bold quiver imma wait W for the GS one. im lazy xD
o/ worst part was crafting the material ones
im lazy to look what i am missing and what i have to GS
i finished the quest items i had available and the skilling/material. Now there isnt much going on, its just grinding
i just realized i can get rid of all my skilling gear except boots now
gonna save so much invent space
i have to settle myself down for that, i have too much business right now
yeah, it can take a while if u are missing a lot of GS
140/200 xD
i have some free time now so im catching up a few things
i need to get more invent capacity i cant do multi tool 190+ ๐ฆ
D=
gotta invest on catching/fishing skills on vman
for better cap
true i coul dmake him a best bag and use him for the stamp of catching bag
idk if this will help but, those last levels on multitool are just to "flex" and to upgrade cuz they dont give u any decent efficiency boost
its being added into too much stuff, kinda disapointed
u get more from leveling the other efficiency stamps than that one kkkkkkk
oh oh i wanted to get it 200 for the clean number thats all xD
How do you get 50 atom clicks a day?
atom colider
my boron only gives 40
You better not be putting a banana in the microwave
Take me to a timeline where I have doot and slug 
This is 50 million actual kills. Deathnote kills have nothing to do with the recipe
A better indicator is how many Royal Ashes you already got. On average you would get the Recipe when you have 1000 royal ashes
thanks for the info- cant recall how many ive used for the stamp (also dont wanna do that math rn) but have ~900 in storage so hopefully soon

Hopefully you don't get as unlucky as Circ. They got 5000 Royal Ashes before they got the Recipe afaik
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thats an absurd number
Linking deathnote with that drop is a noob classic ๐
I totally understand why people think it works like this. So I won't blame anyone for it
My portal is kinda funny 
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150 mason jar when
Pre W6 if you focus Sandpots 
Late to the party, but you know not to get rid of fishing and catching gear right? 
ooo can I see your data? I've been wondering if the issue with that is how the data is being read or stored
My bet is on being read
Should just be a mobile overflow thing
120 ๐ฆ
Only at 3.5B on DK
Not using ES so less glass
Hi scoli ๐
Still better than mine
yo, what's good today?
Doing some ruby card ^^
Excellent
I'm debating farming w4 base stat cards for samples
warrior for fishing/ore the rest vman right?
i am planning to finish W3 card adn do some ressources
lot of easy ressources are not ruby
Yep. For Reasons โข๏ธ , Big Pick and uh.. Worming Undercover? The skills both count sorta kinda like Speed and generate more cards
and like 1hr candy spam or bigger one or?
Meanwhile Log on Logs is just log output multi, no increase to base resources
They'll take more than 1hr, but yeah you can candy them
I always do the 1 skill food trick and then pop a 24hr or 12hr candy, see where that gets me
like whats a good average of card to give me an idea?
oh okay yeah tought doing that
though im low on the high candy cause i just Eclipsed a bunch of monsters (7)
It has been too long, I can't remember card numbers. Sorry
but like in the Hundy or thousand per 24hr
luckily i didnt throw any yet ๐ but ill go through the sample lists on that google doc to make sure i dont get rid of important stuff haha
after my W3 card and maybe W4 i will throw in some candy at skilling
choco chip is dropping soon ehh?
14 december iirc?
26/27 dec

The w4 skill cards are notoriously bad rates. Probably get w5 cards faster
Congrats!
Now for the other ones 
They'll feel so fast by comparison
yeah the crab is gonna be fast
Like Honker took a month, then Crabbo took 4 days lol
put like 1-2 rats for now
so i could have enough lol
but im halfway done with crabs already so it doesnt matter too much
I tried to split Mice and Blobs but had the ratio a bit off
Finished mice 4 or 5 collections sooner and was too lazy to retrap lol
And then left them both for like 2 or 3 more weeks
They are proper natures now

I can't tell if I want more critters to be added or not
It is both boring and nice to be "finished" with something
In it more for the journey than the destination
where is the thread with all guides in discord?
ty
1050M stack all ur critters in storage 
Preparing for Red Stacks 

Reducing stamp material upgrade cost by 0.5% per Stack 
How to get the w2 DNA splicer
Ty
W2 Recipe from Pincermin
and one of the new skills makes it 1.5%
Dr multiplicative or additive? 
I'm still trapping 1 of each. They'll build up over time ๐
multi would be too op
multi would be insanely broken 
but multi would actually make it rewarding enough to go all in
Do the poison froge vial 
but id rather have it exponential 
I don't have enough active time for that
It wouldn't be broken if Lava increased every drop rate chance in W6 by 3x - It would just make farming W1-5 easier 
hes 100% adding alot of DR in the coming worlds i think
but thats just a good thing
making it more and more problematic to rush / less rewarding
im calling atleast 30 dr in w6
probably even more
Yeah. I can see that. Especially since people already going near 24x (or maybe they broke it already?)
yeah, if my calculations are right im very close to 24 with DR cards
hmmm.. should I farm glass shards..
beans dont eat themselves 
Start Gstacking Statues 
fomo packs 
Another 20% multi dr 
gonna be alot of DR without packs
but yeah, the more we progress the more valueable the pack becomes aswell
he could release one each month till kingdom come and people would gobble them up
I'll greenstack this 
i bet we will see more of those multi packs aswell
i'm greenstacking these
@teal lynx yo
maybe not multi DR anytime soon but more multi packs for sure
what would be as good as that tho?
nothing
I was not going to buy that pack out of spite and a few weeks later I bought it 
dosent mean ppl wont buy a 1.20x dmg pack even if its nowhere close to as usefull
it dosent take more than 1.20x dmg and a usefull hat, chain etc and we are sold
1.2x all afk
1000 Green gems 
1.2x afk i would
@teal lynx what you recommend to focus now https://gyazo.com/7fbce992205a8e381ad53d09c9c85cfd
1.2x all stats ๐ฎ
lol no
One down, 9 to go!
i dont feel like you need 10 tbh
I still needa go candy these
but by all means go for it
those are from specific mobs or do i remember incorrect?
Completely agree, but the thing is, need and want are very different ;D
Quest items from Goldrick iirc, dropped by mobs
yea
3 specific mobs
its is but i think it needs to be farmed from specific areas in w2 aswell
Mimics, the coconuts, sand castles
ait
ngl
might do mine aswell sometime soon
please lava don't read these suggestions I can't afford another pack 
lol
That's a you problem
i doubt he offers the chat much attention
have the mama bean fund u 
but il head over to suggestions and do us all a favor
no he's watching over every single messages I'm sure
hi lava
you never know
he once replied to a random question i sent here
i didnt understand shit, never expected that
writing down the names on the naughty list to apply a hidden 0.9 drop chance debuff
maybe it is ๐๐
it literally feels like main SB was lvling faster at citringe than 2nd does at wurms
still wurm should outpreform for exp
well you could test it. maybe it actually is faster
I had better results at Tremors for my SBs

how is your alchemy going
already at 5000 bubbles??
4.6k
did your samples already hit 2b?


weak bubbles
should get IS trophy cus theyre like rex rings

diff multi
the log fries 
there are 3 others that can be added there, but it would require around 10K hours of candy
leaves are easy
cool
ull finish feasty,beholder,and speedy statues with w3 leaves too
yea the top ones are the easiest for me to finish
then i'll have to pick 1 from the bottom row
oh cool
it taking too long to finish the chopping and mining statues tho
bloodbones?
oh fasrming at bloodbones map, yeah best map w3
oh hell nah kkkkkk ill just get the leaves from each world and then decide
i was surprised as how easy it was to reach 200GS
thought i would need the annoying store mats, but no

get that ES going!
when i started GS there wasnt VMAN available, so i farmed all monster mats with es
rly?
i never tested if dk orb boost print, but it shouldnt
if it does, its definetly a bug

oh that
indeed
i guess i should be going to work on those GS aswell soon
good dmg boost
ill eat some cake
yeah i got quite a few easy ones
and a few close / monster mats i used and didnt get back up
hehe
On the post office screen, there is a breakdown of where your post office points come from, including "Family and Talents" and "Secrets", but both are 0 currently. What do I need to do to get points from those sections?
they're simply unused
I don't think there are any Secrets for Boxes
Ah, that's too bad. Was hoping there was an easy way to get some quick boxes
Spam Order 1 for most boxes 
"family" would be a family bonus from some source however I doubt lava will give any new classes that, it'd be a waste at this point
Pens can reset already completed Orders for infinite boxes - as long as you got pens
Somebody say pens? 
carpal tunnel implements
If I had more pens, I'd do that, lol
Gems, world 5 merit, and a sailing artifact
and maybe an achievement I can't remember
cap is 30 but there's a handful more than that available
depressing archer week 
oh well, +4 seconds for next week
Wish i dint ignore killroy early game
same
think i went months without doing it at all when i first started playing
Is it worth doing?
yes
Yes, i spend it on cooking ladles but there are better options
Lmao

I did a similar thing. Made it about midway through w4 before I tried ~~Killroy ~~ Dungeon for the first time
Talent Points, Def, and Accuracy went ๐
Which w5 merits are the most important?
The third one from the left
#bot-commands and type !merit5
Ty
Hey, I upgraded thanks to the tier50 Rucksack
not even those
Souls so slow
ohh, because higher resource cap with rucksack, I see your point now sorry
Yup yup. Maxed out Rucksack should enable you to upgrade some more stamps that previously needed more resources than you could possibly carry
bot is telling me to do matty bag but its so far past my skill lvl anyways
Doesn't matter. You still get 3-4% increase each time
It isn't the full 10% it promises, but, 3-4% is better than 0%
as mom used to say, "you'll grow into it"
It's about the same increase as increasing Mason Jar, but generally cheaper 
and material specific sadly
But like 80 quick-craft bags vs 3k glass shards becomes an easy choice down the road
yeah that makes sense
i wouldn't call 200 hampsters a quick craft but compared to 3k glass shards it is
that's not
The Matty Bag stamp is leveled with these pouches as the cost
oh i thought you were talking about the dreadlo material bags
Waiting on discounts either way 
dreadlo bags are a huge jump, from getting the skilling resources i went from 5k stamp lvl to 7k
gonna get mason jar up tmr 
Anyone know if Wave 190 or 200 was the easy wave for TD1?
Odd numbers are the easier ones
ur doing 200? 
180 is easy and I'm still missing a Kraken 
Might try 200
Went 6 Party for 0.32 speed on kraken
Higher canoli to be able to afford all the towers?
I haven't been able to do full guide towers yet
Oh I will get my last kraken shortly, but had to prioritize the party which is not in the guide
Kraken speed > Another kraken in my head
I was tempted to yolo ladles at Cannoli today, until I remembered Food Lust only works on 1 level
Up to 56/60 though 
51 cannoli only. Those W5 Schows I haven't done are really showing in TDs
Shame
@elfin cape Italian soup with mild italian sausage ^^
I will just candy them when W6 comes out. I'm prepping Ladles right now 
Hi ! I just kill Nightmare Kattlekruk (after 1h lol) and i didn't get the mage weapon when i accept the achievement. I only have the Sword and the Bow unlocked and i am at the level 9 of the achievement. (Need to kill Nightmare Kattlekruk without get heal by mole)
refreshed your game?
Have you bought the Merit or just done the achievement?
Merit sorry i was wrong by calling that achievement
Card are going great!!! ๐ about 200 per portals
How do u get many chemicals?
Harvest every plant except Chems and then use Sprinkler -> Repeat till there are no charges in Sprinkler -> Use Log -> Repeat from step 1 - Chems are just random
Thx
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So what then after doing that
Do I claim all
Got chem on a 0.4 chance . Took me months
More like 1 chance every 1.5 days . Got it in 0.4 when I forgot about it entirely
You could have just done 20 chances on 0.05% every hour
I guess that i need to wait for an update ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Or do maybe do the lvl 9 of the merit
If you really did the Achievement -> Bought the Merit and cloudsaved, then there is nothing we can do
I have never heard of the weapons not unlocking sorry
Did you cloudsave/restart game?
I take screenshot about that but i can't post it here
@old crane and yeah i do everything that i can
You might need some roles in #๐read-me
Nah they just need to post more - atleast copper bar to upload images
I didn't spend a lot of time here.. that's the 2nd time that i came here lol srry
All good. Nothing you can do - it's just to prevent people to spam images via bots
Might as well try the next merit
void points are scoped to a single loadout?
No, invest one point into speedrun trial and change away from the Vman Tab
The Speedrun Trial skill is the talent that actually gives you the points
yeah the talent itself is what grants the points (kinda like the tab 3 skills that give you tab 2), so it needs at least 1 point to grant you those bonuses
1/10th of the way there
You used all your candy just to beat me
which skill is the 2nd easiest to lvl up, it seems if i get 150k eff on chopping i can power lvl all my chars within an hour at the w5 trees
All skills are easy to level up to a certain point
I would say 60+ on each skill is pretty easy in W5
so close 
1M hours behind me 
Upgrade Skilled Dimwit to Max, get everyone tools, upgrade alchemy bubbles, equip the right cards + card set
37% catch rate on Flycicle is REALLY low for W5
like, yes, chopping is easier
but it's perfectly workable
really the goal for off-skillers is to get to 100% on the highest node for maximum exp gains
Just seems skewed when chop chance is only 12% but gives 30x exp ๐
yeah, it's a much higher tier node, the w5 resources give huge exp
skilling is just the same as killing a mob, really. You get exp for each "hit" on the skilling node, and stronger nodes give more exp
So a 12% hit chance in w5 will also give more than a 37% hit chance in w3
"Tier 6- Kill more W1 enemies until the minimum skull is the Lava Skull (13/15). The enemy closest to the next skull is Rats, requires 6,379,373 more kills, and is 93% completed." @paper sail is it an idea to add in the (13/15) to see effort remaining?
Something tells me you arenโt using c troll card for efficiency either
Or multitool stamp
unlocking passive cards would also be a big boon to you
thats what im working on
getting all chars to lvl 50 in all skills, was just wondering why theres such a difference in lvling speed
It's simply a case of catching/fishing came out later so require more effort to get them strong
so maybe mining would be the next fastest to lvl
it's the same reason people do logs/ores for their atom printing - they supply the mosty
yeah mining would absolutely be faster than catching
sweet ill do that then ty ๐
is there a way to calculate sample levels without actually doing it?
I'm 45 days into a growing sample and wonder if I've improved enough to warrant resampling
you can do the whole equipping and check afk gains, then the sample is 90% of it
ah yes my idle game makes my computer run at 2 fps
and that shows the actual number? There's no hidden calculations other than 90%
yes
Correct, just set up and take 90% of it. A 1 billion Log sample would need to show 1111,11M Logs
all stats that affect afk% are the same that affects sample
thanks!
That one guy is getting bullied 
prank 'em john
I knew Xayayah was a bully 
You are killing all the Beans. How am I the bad guy here?
which one
20m for the Icebite GS, right?
I need 9m for the GS + 10m mana pots
Left Stone if it's your first one
Right stone if you are comfortable throwing away the item if it's not hitting all stones
Do I try for the 200 Goblin TD?
My Atom is more than half that of Pancake and my towers are way lower
180 already felt like ages
the real question i think at that point is how much time do you have to play it
and are you going to leave it on overnight
I'm not 100% sure if I would get it before the timer starts 
I will just set up the wave, put on Auto with Stop right there and go shower
Either I die or see how "quick" it's going
sounds like a plan
Overnight unfortunately doesn't work. After around 160 minutes the next wave will start
160 hours 
just under a week, ez
F i knew there was a timer on the TD but i didnt know how long
I wanted to write 2 1/2 hours, but decided to go with minutes in the end
Yeah 160 minutes sounds less than 2 1/2 hours 
xayayah knew our brains werent big enough for 2 1/2 hours
What a bully 
Hourly clicking with that amount of liquid sounds like hell 
Ik. Not sure if you activate it at some point
my bubbles suck
290ish? Not home rn
All that decanting I do and I still donโt do GT 
Is there a way of seeing plunderous kills on ie or it?
40ish
IE: Account Wide -> Task Board -> Nebula -> Achievements
IT: Account -> Task Board -> Achievements -> World 4
Does alch update when you open the tab or is it in the background?
Ugh, Auto on TD doesn't automatically use Stop right there
Whatโs ur CC now? 0:
50-50 is enough?
Yolo
as far as i know it is in the background because if you check on alchemy tab while doing CC it updates per kill
I didn't even encourage, but 50% sounds good yeah
Whats ur snail at now
Is ther any way to get a card to 5 stars w/o the 5 star cardifier?
around +20 more than you
16 
Got a REALLY good streak from 10-19 and reset there 
So I need my bubo to have the alch talents on the combat preset?
Yolo to 15 
if you want to get a lot of CC but alchemy should be updating every tick if possible of the in game clock as far as i know even without CC active or being bubo at least that is how it feels to me
hmm...why i'm feel that Lava gonna give us 1 more lab/divinity like skill?
I think that is without having toons afk there, but we will see (speaking of skill 2)
Lava said something like having all people involved in the skill like Cons or Lab, but never said anything about afking there
And I don't think he would give us Lab 2.0
i really we will get more complicated skill like bread with those arena/shiny/spice and dinner (this skill good enough for me)
well, we basicly sit on lab for eternity unless we have Doot
hope in w6 he will bring us something to free us from lab
Extra God link per God Rank reached 
breeding could be a really good skill if the fights weren't so laggy/bad and if more pets were playable in fights imo
double looter for the win
this sound nice, but i think +1 god link per *10 will be more balance
10 God Ranks? See you in 2026
well, i think equip 3 god at the same time is broken enough
is called doot and lava wants you to fork over money for it 
ES can +1
Per 2 God ranks maybe. But even reaching 3 God ranks is pretty insane already for non dooters
Maybe if you had an incentive it wouldn't be too bad
what even is god ranks?
God Ranks come after having all 10 gods unlocked
after you reach last god
ah makes sense i unlocked bird and stopped
It's the same as unlocking a God and gives you 10% more divinity exp per God Rank + a little damage from the ES talent
wait, he said we will have more god. Even the last god doesn't do anything now. I would like this idea more
with this condition, that skill should give us more dmg than just "a little"
it like nothing
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Lab 3.0
i believe that for now he should have plan to upgrade old things like Salts lick(bet that some people forgot this in game after full upgrade), Alchemy's Liquid shop, some interesting Mini bosses like w1 and w2 bosses. those bosses are well made, i really like how hard to find and fight(Doot) them. Not just some sh!t have countdown( Slush and Mush), Baba yaga is cooler btw, also we need to know what baba yaga egg do.
i want baba yaga pet/companion and you just need x amount of eggs to get i think that would be nice
hard disagree on the minibosses because they are meant to be done a lot of times. Waiting for XX:00 to fight baba yaga once is a cool concept, waiting for XX:00 for the 100th time to fight baba yaga becomes more of a chore than something i enjoy.
Baba Yaga egg is needed for one of the lab jewels
you don't need to fight baba yaga 100 times but i wouldn't want more of that concept being added to enemies you are meant to fight multiple times
gamba'd for all my jewels so i wouldnt know
Are u still doing 20 min traps Xayayah
what happends if jewel you already have is in rotation is that just too bad?
Hell nah. Swapped to 10 hour ones
I maybe could do 20 min traps while doing TD, but that would mean checking TD every 20 minutes
twoot 
Getting close 
This also acts as a reminder to check your Shops 
i just got to w5 and i just threw everyone into divinity
is that a good thing to do
The Pins in this channel have a good guide regarding the early parts of W5
Also make sure to do some sailing
We had some guy here that got to W5 and hasn't touched sailing for 2 whole weeks. Sailing gives MASSIVE Buffs to your whole account
if you keep one character active nows a good time to do some backtracking (source trickzbunny)
im powering for ancient fury/frost relic if anything just to power up my w1-3 stuff
Looks amazing! Btw what is a "mild" sausage? 
mild spices
now that i only miss one for 200 greenstack.. ( i pick red salt as number 200) what can i do in the waiting time? like is they a life after bean farming?
and what to farm O-o
road to 1k
Sandpots if you still need more Mason Jar levels
is there a way to check S chows?
In which bubble boost to focus after unlocking every single one?
i do and ofc the status is a good bonus ๐
IE/IT show them in a good way
You could also go over every monster card and see if you got 100m kills on them
have not depostet them yet :/ maybe is time for that ( non of them is greenstack)
You should change your name to Sandpot Merchant atp
I'm trying to check rift mobs, I can't find anything on ie or it
Iโm here to eat the beans 
If you already finished your Schow then IT won't show it anymore
IE has no icon iirc
Edit: That damm 96 million on Stiltmoles looks really bad
oh, then I've probably already S chow'ed
Rift only has one Schow in total. It counts all your kills across every rift
I can finally start pushing for rift bonuses 
Nice 
Most bubbles are useful to some degree
You want to definitely hit 100% to 115% in Larry. Same for Cooking Roadkill
Then all the Sampling bubbles are extremely good, but for all of those I would advice you to check out https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
It will help you to evenly upgrade your bubbles and it will also help your account overall! Showing what you missed along the way to W5 
Do u have autoloot yet John the ducky
no
Time for Big Boy Ducky to gift little duck boy John some autoloot 
Iโm baby duck

Peking Duck

should I go for 100k ladles at 386 ladles/day?
see you in a year
oh 
90 is the hard cap
yes ,but is not really hard to make at 90%
but u can't get past 90%
it is more difficult if you dont use the prayer
yes ,that make sense now
Yeah, why not you have to get to that point sooner or later ๐ต
ohhh my bad i don t see that he wrote without prayer
what is the card setup for skilling when you have chips and the rift thing?
We got a TD guide for W5? Keep getting stuck at Wave 110
This is only for W5. If you need more TD Guides then check out https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496
Thanks, I've got the others done, so just this one that's being a sticky wicket.
โค๏ธ
U might have to adjust the Guide a little. This is for endgame players and I personally couldn't place the Poison tower on the far left, since my Party Towers didn't reach that far
i uh
I also put a second Void Tower at the end just to make sure none of those Teleport Mobs got through and insta killed me. I sold the Void around 120-130
Nearly had that happen when I ran W2 dungeons
Some of those Challenges need you to disable autoloot
Moral of the Story? Don't go outside 
2.5 hours of active
Had to run and touch grass 
Can anyone rate my acc and give some advices (may dm me)
https://andreyvoin1.idleonefficiency.com/
I shut down my PC the last 3 Days. I probably lost more than you in those 2.5 hours

Don't auto refine red salt
Ok, but why?
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/andreyvoin1
Check out the Autoreview bot of Scoli
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
just about to post that lol
second most time gated rankup in the game, first being green salts
Oh, didn't know about it
Salts are capping at 1m capacity (I think at level 22) and from there on out there are getting faster and faster to get. And when auto refining you will just delay the point where you hit that threshhold. Technically you wanna rank up all salts (except Void maybe, since Void Bars get expensive)
And red salts are technically used to power every other salt. So ranking up red means you can rank up orange more -> repeat the cycle to void salts
Red and Green you definitely want to always rank up and if you want (I recommend) you can rank up all salts
But if I need to rank up my red salt, how should I reifne orange salt and etc?
auto refine what you want except red and green
Coming back to the Bot: It will help you clean up all things you missed along the way to W5
The Bot is focusing a lot on Samples and less on Damage for Alchemy - which is good, since samples let's you automate the game and in the long run samples will give you damage 
also go look in pins of #midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ for the optimal salt chart
Only one Omni refinery proc 
The "Optimal" Salt Chart is not really optimal anymore
good enough for start
Optimal is just ranking up salts. I'm still waiting on different salts several days, but that's fine since eventually they get faster and faster and my salt problem will fix itself
I do agree it's "good enough" for the start, but I wouldn't rely on it after Mid W5
what class is best for active pushing in w5? ive been active on my bubo at stiltmoles, and my es feels better but is 50 lvls higher then my bubo
Bubo is gonna be the fastest since his respawn talent is insanely good. Speaking of pushing World 5: You shouldn't push when you are not multikilling monsters
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking, sorry. Can you give more details or phrase that another way?
I think (13/15) is speaking of how many monsters you already killed for the next Tier
So you would need 2 more monsters in W1 to reach Tier 7
Yeah. IE and IT both already provide full lists for Death Note, and there is the in-game list too, so I didn't think a huge text list was a good idea there.
bad bubo at 493
my GT is not even 5k and I'm Uber lazy clicking it even if I'm on pc for the day
might give up on the 500 for now
i got my first lucky lad today






