#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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are you on the 15 chem task?
It's 50/50 for me. Sometimes I get the squirrel, sometimes I hit the chem. I just skip it until it is safe
Nah, already finished that one
fair enough
then no big prob
but you should be able to click lower left on it
basicly its nutz
It moves eventually π
whats your shovel lvl?
so 8 higher than me
You don't have to click squirrel everytime he stores nuts, I click once every 10 chems or so π
But then again each of my upgrades costs 2.2k nuts so my upgrades take longer
Yeah π I just like the routine
What gear should I push for to prep for w6? I hate the idea of multiple sets. Have chiz helmets and a combo of void/lustre right now
anvil tab 5 stuff
If you are unwilling to remake when w6 comes out, Magma is the safe bet
We don't know yet if W6 armor is going to craft out of Magma, Kruk, or start a new line
Stopping at Magma gets you safe in 2/3rds of those situations
it would be hilarious if it went from diabolical

when is choc chip coming?
i think the 13th
jk 27th
13th is a doubler
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/htmlview#gid=1945859978
here's the doc for you to use
it's also on IT
ye i like the view of the doc a tad more but it is on there as well
Im doomed
actually IT and that document have different information.
time to candy on sb!
hammer hammer, anvil stamp, anvil points, archer skill
you have 20 days, that's perfectly doable
Yeah, I had it done in a fraction of that from nothiong. Use/upgrade the alchemy bubble, buy all the points and as meny of the metrial points you can, 3x pruduction on the spurs (you can use all 3 hammer on the same thing if you've missed that till now)
u can do it
make sure to increase all anvil production sources, 26 days is more than enough to get 200k
i believe in u
you are only doomed if you just give up without trying
Do SB kills help anvil production?
no, only forge
candies progress it, but there is the town production talent tho its prob small
100k is not very hard
so hammer hammer is the way to go for that then, I just don't make enough atoms just yet to increase that a bunch
if you can print the iron its good to do so
dont need alot of hammer hammer (if any) to get 100k in a week
get all chars producing and claim often
I'm not in that conversation, my questions was unrelated
I'll try printing iron and see how it goes...thanks
what are you trying to do?
my goal for all of this is to be able to use atoms to increase my luk...trying to increase my vman dmg
man
atoms are not well spent for luk
luck wont help much with vman dmg
but sure thing
oof, how to increase dmg then...I need NM kruk
quickest way would be quick slap
most beneficial would be eclipse skulls, statues, booked and maxed talents, sailing artifats (oo fun)
it helps to have kachow onyxed
question about sailing and IT. Ive been trying to get the Fury Relic for some time. My "Chests" tab shows one chest from Fungi Meadows island, but it shows "No More Artifacts!". I definitely have not found this yet. What does this mean? Can my loot level be too low to find it?
quickslap and boosting luk bubble is not needed at all for NM kruk with vman
with the equinox dmg buff its even easier
You can see the chance for am artifact/upgrade on loot pile
only at 16b dmg for my vman
very easy actually
how are eclipse and equinox dmg buff looking?
If there's no % there u either have it maxed out or haven't gotten enough rift for eldritch
don't forget to go full degen on your chips/cards for damage too for vman nkruk
here? i dont see it
that tells me nothing
then I don't know what you are asking for xD
lvls into the dmg buff
and eclipse
Classic idleon help site
This?
There's other artifacts that increase artifact chance btw if u haven't gotten it already
Are they gold tho?
nah. i have people at whatever their max 2hr trip is right now. i can focus on whatever island that is
oh it is
Well it is up to luck then
only 5%...I'm way off killing 1b anything
just spent 21m on loot level for my fastest captain, will see
would take forever, I'm only getting 1m/hour on gmush
then NM kruk is not where you need to spend your time
Loot level doesn't increase artifact chance
oh yeah baby a nice boost
in my opinion
Just loot amount
how to increase killing to get 1b kills then?
MK, dmg, afk
death kill
death note
death note*
loot value i meant, sorry
MK?
multikill
alchemy
also lab 2x kills and nobisect
also sounds like you are lacking in alot of areas, so my tip would be to backtrack worlds and get stuff up to date
lately I've been trading off active sitting my bubo in worms to increase liquid and grind time and sitting my ES at suggma for that recipe
bubo for grind time dose not sound like anythign you need atm
took me two weeks on suggmas, es active. eventually took ES off for something else active, 75 greenstacks I think, and got the recipe in the next day or two with an offline someone.
2 weeks of suggma sounds like very low DR
in my opinion you are pushing stuff thats ment for "more developed" accounts
instead of pushing the easy stuff
dont count the kills on deathnote....for recipe mk dont count
9 DR is very low
yep
still no recipe
seems like youve been unlucky aswell
took me 900 or so
but it would be significantly faster if you worked on your dr first
at 9 dr you have alot to go on
what are the main sources. I'm 4* on all the cards.
well there are many sources
tips and tricks have a sheet
perfect for you
but if your obols aint on point yet thats 100% something you need to do asap
dice and pop obols
best to show your mouseover in IE for drop rate
skull head and boots for instance
Does slush obol reroll for skill efficiency? I've noticed it drop to 2% a few rolls, but does it hit 4% if I keep rerolling?
which is likely out of your reach
neverm,ind, thats crystal chance i am thinking of
all my characters have all that
of the obols in w3, mk, construction, worship, trapping, which are worth working on?
none
i thought construction at a min
Construction is godly
I would still say to get Worship and Trapping, just personal sets
MK is doodoo though. Can be skipped other than slab. It is π© because it is flat MK. Can be okay early, but falls off haaarrrrdddd
Yeah. Cons is like S tier, Worship and Trapping are probably C tier. MK is D.
not sure what I'm looking at with this calculater
The sources of possible DR, compared to what you have.
what do you mean? it states every DR buff
you dont need to use the calculator
use it as a guide for DR source
You look through and see Oh this source can give up to 300 but I only have 180 of it. That is a target to work on 
you can see every source of DR. look at it ----> get it
and no source is too small or "not important"
you want everything
EVERYTHING!
the dr from pack is insane too
atm im on 19.82 dr...and it still feels low
Time for the daily "what happened to my DR" hunt
thats me literally everytime i change chars
It is the worst
yup
I know my DK should have around 23.8 in crystal setup
yeah something like that for me aswell
gonna be even worse now with the weekly boss talent
cant even afford refinery stamp lvl atm....
oh fuck do neither of my SB have plunder leveled in skilling builds
exactly the same for me. discovered it earlier today
phew, no, they do
weekly boss?
in w2
oh it was mentioned
Good there. Got me the other day though lol
well... what are you at?
obol swap?
That'll do it
literally what i was gonna ask 
1 godshard
I mean he's fighting beans..
i feel like my 2nd SB is lvling terrible slow compared to 1st one
You'll never know how much I have anyway lol
this is all from beans lol
mine just sits in lab/div
says very clearly 12 godshards, smh 
Got me there
got the receipts
You know how much I had 5 days ago π€£
I do actually need to update that. I was holding off until I finished my tasks, but those finished last night 
literally actived wurms for 7 hours on SB and i got from lvl 425 to 455....
u maxed your flag talent?
yes
I had better results doubling Moonmoon than Poops on SB
yeah i doubled moonmoon too
Hi everyone by the way π how you all doing
aint no way sb is their lowest lvl lol
then yer losing out
Lowest is reserved for BB lol
this is a skilling set btw, my BB was at 50x before i put him at crystal island
my bad bubo is now officially my highest levelled character
now is it still the bad bubo?
yes because other than the buboing talents are not even booked
now it will be the first char to hit 500 and then back to lab jail it goes before I get an elite swap
543
my bad bubo is my 4th character but I ended playing the other more because I'm just like that
i just want w6 to drop...so i can lvl all to 500+ fast
still takes ages in w5...my gt is too low....
takes ages even with 20k GT
7969
just get 100k gt
1k too high....
my goal after 10 mill plunder
good luck 
thanks
i just cant understand how 7 hours of SB afk at wurms turns into lvl 425-455
thats so shitty
Welp, SB is really just that terrible
well, why then?
it's cursed 
as i came back to full inv (fcking leaves)
also found out my star talent for crystals was at 0, meaning i has 1 in 75 chance
told ya. crystals 
then you know why
still tho
the game wasnt lagging when i turned on monitors, so im nto sure if it did at some point or not
but the ground was packed with leaves
did you cloudsave and have a lot of desync?
yup that and the crystal spawn
ops, extra 2h15minutes of claim on everyone
extra?
thats just time lost active, aint no extra
yeah thats exactly what i was thinking
all i care about is my damn lvls so i can get of this char 
should i follow combustion lvl setup?
follow whats pinned in w3 chat
Subjective
its low
For you yes
its low for any1
I'M FREE 
Average joe in w5 its okay/slightly high
slow and steady....
its not slightly high for w5, its very low for w5. also very very low for someone pushing NM kruk on all chars
Its subjective my friend
its not
if a player at that point has sub 10 DR its because DR has been very very very neglected
and considering how easy it is to get way more its low
βUhm actually itβs notβπ€
if you had to grind for months to get more id agree. but for a guy with 9 dr we are talking large impovements in a day or two
not easy to get way more.
Who cares bro
whats the secret 
Make the game lag

link your IE and i will take a look
any good map for "giant" farm ? π ofc on a bobo π
Learn the absolutely random movement and get lucky 
Whatβs ur bit multi now
so just a skill issue 
and pc issue lol
spilled cider on it one time, still runnin tho 
Good PC 
PC was thirsty anyways
sharing is caring
Anyone wanna help me name my 10th character? Gonna be my second SB
u got a theme?
statue_farmer_bot?
thats a name for a dk
removed anything that cost real money and changed the stuff in calculator to "very easy to obtain" now and i still clock 14.5 DR
jacks p arrow
Nope I didnβt have that much forethought unfortunately lol
p is for piercing, of course. why? what did you think
Honestly love it. Gonna see if there are any other suggestions but that is definitely a contender
There ain't a better name than Jacks P Arrow for a SB tbh. Tony got a hidden talent 
Do you just have to wait for this to come in the cycle?
wat
all i could think of is gregolas for some reason
choco chip is coming dec 27
You can gamble for it in the gemshop if you like
prep now
Otherwise yes, gotta wait
Think next one is Feb
Ahh bc I been waiting to get itπ
after the dec one
if lava ever releases renaming items i'm gonna be sad i didn't keep that one to myself 
One comes this December?
Yes here
Ooo bet
a lot of mine are puns on names but they're not for the right character. Ex: My DKs are Sir Smithers and Elon Musket, but those should've been my archers
What fertilizer speed levels is pushing for T6 plants reasonable?
Scuffed names bc it was the classes i was lacking at the time
I shoulda named mine duck1,2,3
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ohtWMLT4NzBuVyqcXoEvkCMPXuYGWrRWUAmBOTdZCrQ/htmlview#gid=1945859978
now its not a mystery, IT also has a tracker
Interesting, thanks
Itβs taken π
Is there a way to check name availability without committing btw?
nope
I'm nervous about future names tbh

Anyone specific that should use this chip? Or just anyone
i guess it wasn't taken, then?
choco? anyone that you are looking to farm crystal mobs with
It didnβt work with the caps saying it was taken but this version I guess not. Thank you for the awesome name β€οΈ
i should aim for better captain or just buy
buy what you can for now, then replace later with better
jacks p arrow has taken his rightful spot on the divinity altar
How am I already out of water
I refilled last night
New choices every day, just buy something, cloud rate if you want new clouds, or artifacts if you want those, but i think speed is best early to meet your minimum quota
some bullshit
Too many bubbles 
Other than QS is there any other quick way to increase dps on beginner?
i feel your pain
bro how and why just get jman then get mman then vman
Already got 2 vmen
make this into ur 2nd bb then if u dont have 2
also that is not aight
322 crit chance gah damn
They already know they're playing non-meta

π¦
I had 4 beginners for about a yr during w4 but gave up and made my 10th char dk lol
So since no one said any other ways to increase dmg im presuming it's just alchemy QS and nothing else really increases it?
Damage is the culmination of 100 different sources. It isn't easy to just list
Do you got any clue what point that might be?
But after that is idk 250 or something, I'm sure QS wins
More feasty for Zoomies 
kk ill do that then β€οΈ
do u get a trait in td every 5 lvls of the tower?
Looks like level 450 is 90% of the bubble value for 20.7% total damage per 250 LUK, but your LUK is pretty
so I doubt it helps as much as QS to go that high even
I think 80% is 200
Something around that, yeah
And ngl even when I leveled that shit to see if it changed dmg on my warrior
Didnβt really do shit lol
So prob QS better 
Depends on your stats π I can see the difference these days with 30-40k main stat
Iβm 35k
wtf just happened.. Highest until now is 105%
Couldn't see it as much back when I got the bubble under 10k lol
QS is a better option in the long run for dmg
I leveled it with one day of atoms for fun 
QS get better the more lvls you get
Shoulda clicked Bob
The problem is that there is a damage multi for stashed atoms. You probably lost more from that than you gained from the bubble π€£
well getting more luck is leveling lotto bubble which isn't very efficent
+1 Helium felt so great!!!!
Yeah, QS > Lotto LUK for sure. No questions
I was still above 1M so I donβt think it was that bad
But maybe 
See? We care about you 
hey, i just reached w5 and i wanna ask is there a way to get more than 1 exp/h for divinity when i start out, am i missing something?
Nope π¦
There are eventual bonuses, but nothing immediate the minute you walk into W5 for the first time
how bad is the idea to let bubo afk in fractal the time im on dk
Alright thanks, unfortunate
if you dont need it in lab/anywhere else then it should be fine i guess
but also why lol
well he is only 86 in div, i could at least go to 100 with mindful
first do that deffinitely
cause i think if i check each 1 afk hours, i ve more chance to get trophy
i might be wrong tho
2x their Health, and no.
Only for cases when you can get more DR than the original rate
So for somethin with a base 1 in 5 rate, sure. Something with 1 in 20k, no
what should i prio ?
For unlocking? Equinox Fish, Equinox Ore, Honkers, purple salt.. then just start to finish I guess?
like upgrading
You can unlock them in any order.
yeah the tip shows you what's technically next (think it skips bobjoe) but there's nothing stoppinf you doing them in any order
right lava you were warned. I'm at world 6 now time to spoil all the new stuff 
lmao
When is a good point to start working on rifts? I'm at 250ish in w5
Never
honestly it's worth trying at any time
Worst case scenario you can't do it and know you need to work on getting strongert
for what it's worth, early rift is generally walled by your skills rather than your damage
the mobs aren't strong, but can you kill them quick enough?
I've been trying to find a list of approx max damage needed for clearing each Rift that gives a reward. If anyone knows or has notes they've beaten Rift at, hit me up 
Does anyone know if cogs scale with cons lvl or some other modifier?
level of your highest char
Max cons level of highest character
i wont make the spice before next week how can i speed up the process quick :S
Alright thanks, do either of you know if it has a cap?
No known caps, no
thanks
to be honest with you bud, there's no easy way to get the later spices fast until you unlock the top tier pets -a nd even then it's slow
Your best bet is to claim that spice any time it's at 1
if you manage to use your 100 daily spices, the spice talent can let you get more
That's dedication, but also it is the best lab jewel 
Yeah, so go do that 1200 times π
tbh I'd probably just look at spending all my keys to generate gems from bosses
and buy the world 4 weekly
until you have them all (you can't roll dupes on lab gems)
If you have a wee bit of patience, check the schedule for the next couple weeks for anything you can already afford and wait to gamba until after buying
Sucks to gamba and roll what you could have bought normally in a week
didnt know there was a schedule...
how do i get a flag score off over 150 if vman talent keeps making it reset past 100
Jewels & Chips
Image,Name,Week,Starts On,Bonus,Cost 1,Cost 2,Cost 3,Can't reference other sheets with conditional formatting so I have to copy & paste owned stuff here (you can ignore these columns).
This Week,Pyrite Rhombol,90,December 6, 2023,All mainframe bonuses and jewels have a 30% larger ...
toolbox also shows the schedule
Reset your talents on Vman, don't level that Enhancement Eclipse.
yeah just found that on google π
Can buy all until february 28.
yeah i thought id have to do that but that sucks
If you don't have it set on your other preset, you can just do that instead of a full talent reset
which class farms the most kruk keys per hour?
Divine Knight usually
your bot is great by the way thanks a lot
no wait not the green ones
just tried it but i dont get enough plunderous mob that sucks
gonna have to wait anyways
if you're oneshotting the mobs the things that'll primarily help are levelling skills that hit more mobs (like the mini balls or homing arrows) and movement speed to change platforms quicker
Some maps better than others, too. Citringes I think might be best?
for the flag achievement you have to do it at moltis
Ah! Right. Good call
if i remember correctly you only want 1 point in the flag skill...so the plunderous dont get too much hp
crystal chance can help with that achievment too
crystal mobs don't consume a coin to spawn but can drop them
am i doing something wrong when i have way too much of the 2nd liquid?
theres only 4 bubbles for it and not many vials
nah, it's kinda a self fulfilling prophecy
You hjave more water 2 so you get more to spent on capacity/rate
but that only means you get...more water 2
obols
why is the bleach liquid cauldrons recommended gems?
water is a big factor in late game progression
water 2 may not be used for much but it still has uses
Um, why I'm I not able to send screenshot 
Idk what you mean
they have a colour picked they should be high enough
Try updating either your app or press ctrl +r to refresh on pc


they liked it that much 
That was for the test, but ig 
Looking for a review of my Construction Building tiers for the review bot. Ping or dm with any thoughts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16I-rURrVeyvltK2wxcQSiPgO07QY015RVNG4MAgUsGw/edit?usp=sharing
Afk shrine deserves its own tier
the level for construction mastery tier
Some shiny pets, sb family skill
It does have its own poopy F tier pre-mastery lol
Many sources
Also itβs fucking expensive for me now
I think itβs eating almost 80 black lenses at 70s 
my week is ruined after learning i wont be getting the jewel...
Oh I didnβt scroll to the right side cus Iβm on my phone 
Yeah, very true. I had to start letting DK hang out at Eyes to farm Black Lenses
Me too, after contract tested it
At least as far as Mastery goes, a level is a level. But it sucks that the shrine itself is worthless
But Iβm back to beans for now
fuck jewel rotation just buy then with gems

Copium take, it'll be buffed in the future
I still level it now for cons mastery just cause itβs fast to build but Iβm gonna need to get more black lenses soon
I hope he uncaps it and buffs it a few percentages lol
he uncaps the afk gains but make it work only on chars up to level 50
Just like w1 cards omegalul
For key efficiency, normal is the best odds. Time efficiency, go higher difficulties.
how many flurbo points do end game ppl get i feel like theres way too long untill i get 10k for the last rings
I donβt even bother doing dungeons anymore, still have over 100k flurbos sitting worthless in the bank
Whats the level for efficient orb again?
267 with mana box, if you can get there 300 without is better
I'm not endgame and I get 25k on the 20x with vacuous so yeah, you'll be able to
I just didn't finish my opal and necklace sets yet due to not having time
rank 49 or something
Thank you
hopefully lava doesn't put in any other sources of CDR in world 6
or, at least fixes the skills that overlap
Whatβs cdr
If you have doot does it matter whether you link to any gods? Any benefit or drawback or does it just not matter?
You need someone linked to purrmep to get the minor bonus
Additionally, it's not a terrible idea to have your remaining characters linked to bear. Some sites (mostly IE) don't display doot for everything, which can result in it looking like your lab is disconnected. Bear prevents that
What is cdr
cool down reduction
Thanks. Thatβs super helpful.
Specifically IE doesn't show companions when sharing public builds π
So you can do the same with sheepie and some of your bubbles so theyshow up correctly
Interesting. I have sheepie so I just keep zero bubbles equipped to keep it clean. Maybe thatβs a mistake.
it kinda struggles to estimate when your anvil/charge will be full without it
with vs without
Interesting. I need to use IE more overall.
It's a powerful tool (as is toolbox)
Another E 
Right on my tail
Coming for you 
Gonna make me spend my ladles π¦
How many ladles do you have rn? 
36k
Was saving for Cabbage, but I guess I hit it now
but I gotta do my CCD first
I slacked too much on it
woo ccd
Hm
uh we dont talk about this thing 
IT now asks me for Food Lust stacks
I wonder where I can actually see the number of stacks I have
equinox tab
Oh dope
Wasn't there last I looked
I think I mentally decided saving up for at least 3 was good
That's just about 50% discount
51.2% cost, 48.8% discount after 3 stacks
yea think it was very recent
My ladle routine has been saving up for a cooking speed upgrade, then any meal costing 200 or less
idk if that is optimal but π€·
better than my current routine of nothing
That's my sleep routine 
i would be doing this, but i accidentally used up 75k ladles on my way to 100k so i have to wait for them again
LOL that is tragic
Way ahead of me. BB almost to 460 
Does anyone know why my printer used to display all amounts in purple with a swirl after I got doot, but now the numbers are golden with a star. Isn't that a downgrade?
Usually just a visual bug
visual bug
Lava should apply Pickle Jar vial to Fractal Island
Dont use sb talent (it reduces the amount of chests per collection)
Are there any other skills where maxing it out is actually detrimental like orb? Hope he fixies that things one day.
Since the sb talent disables the feature where captains wait to deliver an extra chest if the pile is full
not sure about it but i thought cranium too?
Abluble
In theory, ES Wormhole is going to hit a similar threshold soon. We'll have to wait and see how it behaves though. Not all buffs have the same recast conditions.
Wormhole with Mana PO Box has a 108 second cooldown. It hits 108 second duration at talent level 325
this really worth?
good to have 1 just to push dmg for shimmer trials
true
but that's alot of pvc
honestly not a big deal if you miss it imo
which skill makes my build rate go up? happens when i switch to bb
While active on a Warrior specifically, Carpenter gets multiplied by Warriors Rule. That doesn't happen when not active on a warrior so you'll see huge swings.
you construction level + alchemy level
ahhhh that makes sense
i should let NBL lvl up carpenter right
which pets are converter pets
It's the only real way to get it to atom range, so, yes
Until 200ish yes. Then you can start using daily atom clicks on it
200 is the breakpoint with maxed discount (sadface ;_;) so you'll probs reach it much earlier if you're not stupid like I was
200, assuming 200 discount bubble for nblb reasons, and maxed boost discount for orange cauldron
What's a good level to stop using daily upgrades to carpenter?
I liked 950
Is 2% the hard cap?
Thanks. So 950 I do
what level of sailing gives access to the green captain?
Even the little invisible 0.0X number adds up when you have close to 1k construction levels
Yeh exponential growth is crazy
I don't think there is a specific level
Oh, I lied. 50 apparently
ahh, so i just have bad rng since ive never seen one
from the pins
Carpenter is exponential, right? Or just additive with itself?
You only have a ~1.33% chance of getting t5 (green) captain at level 50
can you use big pick with ore sampling?
Jesus, level 199 sailing only has 2.65% chance lmao
Having it just on your bar is all you need to get the benefit 
tyty
wow sailing captain chances are some bullshit
I hate that I've seen this
t0 captain's chance goes down to 0.84% chance at level 50, then starts INCREASING again 
It isn't huge but at 140 sailing I have a 1.62% chance to a t0 captain. Almost doubled for no good reason
wait which discount are we talking about?
Alch bubble cost reductions. Things like Iron Bar Vial, bubble cauldron > boost > cost, orange bargain, the yellow Undeveloped Costs bubble
TBH, kinda wish we would lose the ability to even pull lower level captains at certain breakpoints
we would still get shitty captains
ahh this one?
Less shitty though lol
since only max stats cap raises
shittt I should get this one higher
What's the multiplier from lab+harriep? X8?
Yes and no. Now with the Atom Collider allowing us to upgrade bubbles once they hit 100m resource cost, any time you increase your bubble cost reduction, you also increase the level you need before you can use Atom clicks on them.
2x3=6 
i only have 4 atoms unlocked.
Ah! Ok, I thought it was higher!
this ones so-so right
If you only have 10,000 green salt to spare, do you get meaty traps, glauss skull, or the materials bag? Or something else?
so-so doesn't really begin to describe
I have 250k pens. 20 a day is 
It's my favourite qol atom, tbh xP
But yeah it's bad
Generally tools are more important. You only need 1 person to have the capacity to craft the next bag in line though. At worst, craft 1 bag if you can't manage to skip it.
Maybe if it was 200 per day
didn't gaming have am import which increases atom cap levels by 10?
It is the very final Superbit, yes
I'm thinking about skipping the bag, and going straight for the next one that takes pearlers. I'll get the skulls for everyone then.
Only a small handful of people (like 10) have reached it
I hope there's some new bit multis in the future so us plebs could reach it too at some point
We have an extra section to go still
And he pre-programmed purple and blue bits
Yeah so the real question is more of a matter of when not if
probably only see it during or after W6
Wait, the math doesn't add up. I have 66m jungle log sample. 2 slots = 130m, x6 = 792m, but I can hourly click it?
Oooh, the artifact multi?
I currently have 1.06
There are more printer output bonuses than just those 2
Yeah, check IE for your actual producing rate
IT gives a nice list of the bonuses
Where in ie is the 3d printer located?
w3 > cons > printer
Actually I just noticed there's a difference in the boosted values between IE and IT. Probably IE not taking one of the bonuses into account. IT is probably better then
Is time
Thanks, I'll use it then.
Time to still not get plate 60 turkies with 100k ladles waow
try to get lvl 100 cooking first
just need 1m balloons or so^^
Anyone got better ideas for the ladle use? All the meal cooking speed meals, turkey, al lthe skilll efficiency ones and cannoli for TD is what i have atm
thats about what i did
full send bits..
Whoops
I knew 100k ladles woulldn't get me 60 turkey 
Gotta actuallly do my other TDs now to get them alll over 121, big sad
I feel so stupid right now π
Why didn't I realise cooking different meals on each kitchen was an option with 100k ladles... rip ladles
you've lost less than you think, using 100k ladles is real inefficient anway
I wouldn't sweat it
The other kitchens are a lot slower, so prioritize some on the first few kitchens?
I'm only at 86k or so
eh, my slowest kitchen was 4e32 and fastest 3e33, not a huge difference
I probably need to level those other kitchens more
And get all richelin upgrades lol

I wish there was a time skip sorta thing on TD
Where the game simulates up to the wave time limit (if necessary) in a few minutes, so you're not actually waiting hours for health to go to 0 on a wave that is guaranteed never to move
hexa
Though I 100% expect something that doubles the speed would fuck up the logic on the enemies and make them skip through kraken eyes
Hello HAchin
;3
wrong avatar tho
How are you? Alt's at snowmen
Krakens passed the 500k damage per tick point though, so damage speeding a fair bit
err, poisons rather
oh, I'd very much wish to be 7 feet under more than the usual day so I'm okay
π
I want 100% increase per second 
150 cans is 800b health 
Just hit 31k damage w/o shrines 
it's cute you call your main an "alt"
π€
Game suffering frame drops even without damage numbers, that's a yikers moment
Still coping with the lost account
Chat is choking
I failed on 150
Close call, just got to 750k points to drop another kraken down
Kruk armor stone for my first kruk pants worth it? Or regular w5 stone? I lack salt to craft more
I think my canoli needs to be higher to afford all the towers
Is there a way to increase regular item drop volume? Does multikill matter?
More DR
Ye, Im afraid of failing more than % says otherwise I assume it would be similar
Normal mob items are helped by mk
DR increases the amount of regular drops? I'm just farming condensed zaps.
Cope is too much
Normal mob items should be mk, respawn, fight afk%
So does DR have anything to do with the regular drop table? I don't have any low hanging fruit in the DR category right now.
Top left? So what would wood mush's be?
Ah
DR affects quantity of basic drops, which is why ES is the best basic mat farmer
No mention of dr there either, so don't think dr affects base drop
I think es is cuz wormhole spawns a lot of mobs?
Or wormhole is different than dr
And game-crasher!
i'm pretty sure that's drop rate
its just that multikill is more significative than dr for base drops
since you can get a lot more multikill than get dr
i mean it says drop
Drop = drop rate
but his point is this drop could be something other than dr
There are 4 or 5 names for the same thing
not necessarily
So there's no consensus? I'm wondering if I should run a damage card set, or a DR card set while farming regular drops. What would you guys do?
DR
Yes necessarily, that's what it is
I mean you don't need to run damge cards period
Unless higher mk tier
Card set is always the 4 main DR cards, then 2 for whatever you're doing at hte time in the doubler spots
No, I just put on the DR set, and lost a multikill tier.
MK for active ES, crystal for DK active, etc
i really really hope you're able to recover it tho. fr
Just get more damage yo
even tho you're insane 
Though I say that as I check my cards on my BM and notice it's all damage cards lmao
Bm needs the help lol
Haven't done anything except TD with my BM for so long that I haven't swapped them around
Drop Rate affects base mob drops, but samples are not affected by Drop rate. Therefore the guide doesn't mention drop rate in Vman Sampling
Oh it even hass skill efficiency set bonus active 
the rest of the dice obols are pretty low hanging tho.
like you can get that done in a few hours of crystal farming
it's time π«‘
and you even get the shards to do it in the process
hey that's not bleach logs
new herus pfp is throwing me off so fucking hard
I don't have the cookie.
are tou ready for Christmas?
(next cookie is in on the 27th)
2 ppl have called me a girl cause I had the cute Korean girl as a pfp
so my pfp is now my pup being high
so you're a high pup girl. got it
bring back cute korean girl 
Oh yeah. I've got cheese in the trillions.

even if you don't have the crystal chip maybe it is a good choice for you to farm the dices. dr is just that good of a stat
just make your own pfp
Herus will always be a kpop idol regardless of how high that pup gets
Hmm maybe that should be mentioned in the wiki and not just say rare drop lol
Expecting the wiki to be accurate doesn't sound like a fun time
@signal osprey DID YPU SEE NUG
wiki is right like 99% of the time lol
Yeah I predicted it too
240b health left on this TD wave, so cllose
I got the bad nug so you had to get the good one
you made it happen
did you break the curse?
always stuck midgame 
contract is the idleon equivalent of jesus
a topping maniac

50b hp lleft, almost out of this waking nightmare
soon 
Uness 160 is a similalr amount of hp for the wave, then I might have to do 160 too 
160 is easier than 150
Is there a bug where NBLB does trigger if I have don't? I don't think I'm getting free bubbles anymore and I'm not sure why. Everything in lit in the lab
If I have doot
160 is easier until a bunch of skippers maange to get passed my void without being voided D:
Thankfully only 17 got through, so salvagablle
Kraken eyes have such an interesting interaction with a queue of mobs they are behind, focing a bunch of them back half a screen as it moves to the frontlines
bad bubo at 490 
wondering how much longer till 500
then I have to think again about what to do active 
Best way to get more movspd for quick slap dmg?
Is it possible to get samples of rare drops? Like batteries and pearler shells?
pots with the feasty statues are probably the fastest and easier way. if you're already doing that then idk
just the first drop sadly
Bummer
So, I'm wanting to overnight on my SB for plunder mob kills, where would be my best bet? I'm thinking someplace like beans with an okay amount of mobs that are all 1shot, high multikill, and respawn fairly quickly on their own?
I've been told oranges are the best one
but you get better XP and drops at tremor wurms at a slightly lower plunderous rate
when I climbed to 100k I did it at tremors
Ah, I'm just tryin to hit 1k for now, so I'm no where near either of those maps, or even the dmg required to kill a non-plunder wurm/orange lol
you could try lowering the level of the plunderous mobs if you're looking only after kills
so they have less hp
could do gmush for the lab $ gain
I'd bet in good maps for bubo so flambierge or them mustaches
yeah, gmush wouldn't be terrible and you'd get started on the money buff
just make sure to filter a lot of drops if you overnight there so you don't turn your pc into a space heater with all the loot on the ground
yep. if you're early enough you might even need to filter the spore caps itself because of bag sizes
good call
I dunno, a space heater might be needed with how cold it's starting to get lol
but you'll actually loose time so just set fire to something and filter the stuff 
shoot you're right... dang desync
I'm looking at a tower guide and the word cannoli comes up, what is that?
a very tasty pasta roll
holy cannoli
a dish that boosts the amount of points you get for kills in td
cooking, thanks
damn the pray reaction passed the giggling one on my most used. tough times 
I feel so far off from 131 cans tower but I know I'm close lol. sitting on 110 boss right now
you can do it. remember that you need your krakens to hold up so make sure that their speed is up with enough parties and then just wait for a lot of time. good luck
my max was 80 here before this one so I'm making gains
I jumped from like 70 to 120 following the guide and with not so great towers so it is deffo possible
I don't think I have enough dmg for the 110 boss actually, I just realized they are healing lol
That'll never happen 
build a voidnator on top of it
or let it scale enough
well... I quit after I realized the scaling...next time
good luck with the speedrun
Is there a point to have your arena go above 200
flexing
Mine been battling and Iβm at 223
Having a void is like key to getting high level in TD
Still going
so not really
π
Gotta clean off any abilities the mobs have
what does the grilled cheese cap out at?
whatever your food caps out at
I ment % wise,seems to slow down alot
no cap just diminishing returns
there is a theorical cap but since it has a lot of variables I don't think someone calculated it
Welp, I think they did since there is a formula on the wiki
lots of boosts to food too though
yup. currently my bubo has a 102091 stack at 21.7%
not everyone can be a grilled cheese maniac 
well, you really shouldn't wear a sandwich
For the name I guess bubble how much does it increase by βThis bonus increases based on how much Max MP you have above 150.β
I'm more sandwich than stickfigure at this point
btw @paper sail
sad times
I'm sure the formula is around somewhere, but idk. Less than QuickSlap, but more than Big Meaty Claws. Still a decent bubble to hourly click with Gold Ore if you have 4x warriors or already have the Platinum Ore bubble stronk
Otherwise, I'd put it last for the ores. Dementia > Copper > Iron > Void > Platinum > Gold
The name of the bubble is stronk?
Stronk Tools π
Ah
Name I guess to 10k here i go 
After updating my IE, my best leaderboard spot is 13
Not quite top 10 but i'll take it
How does blood marrow work for the v man
I have 89 levels for cooking and itβs only giving me 1% at skill level 100
The bonus is raised to the power of the number of meals iirc
Takes a bit to get going, but it takes off eventually and gives you billions or trillions
one day you'll surpass my late 11th place 
I might still have the screenshot where I was 1st in two categories lol
no that only counts for me 
get topped
well, you're good so that is expected. it is much more funny when it is mine
I'm not good though lol
oh yeah you're following the bot that makes you progress 69x slower I forgot
one more claim 
So anyway, for comparison lol
I promise it is strong and worth maxing out
Kinda feeds itself. Faster levels = more levels = faster levels = more levels
the mobs revolted and plundered your account 
You'd be the first I heard of someone losing stacks
Had to one up you 
can they be different on 2 char??
coming for you 
...got demoted today
ugh. I thought I was almost 99% finished with Heart Diggy, but I mixed up numbers. 99% is 9900 not 4900
5k more to go
I'm trying to think about my snail. Not upgrading, but also not resetting. I don't wanna curse it
oh man, I was so confused on how when I took a sample after massively increasing almost everything for sampling it only doubled, then I realized I had sack prayer on
panicked a bit wondering wtf do you need to do to hit 1b before realizing
That's why I had to start recording everything in a spreadsheet
Otherwise I'd spin for an hour trying to spot the difference
Got some decent printer resets today at least
damn a bit short still, went from 274m to 882m
Pretty solid increase still!
yeah was hoping I had enough to hit 1b but still good, over triple
think it's mainly just main stat increases now is what I need
but it's enough that I can start hourly clicking mage 1 bubble
That's a good start toward increasing main stat 
yeah I've been on hourly clicks for other 2 but didn't sample bleach last time since I wasn't hourly clicking then
Mage is Best doesn't increase Stable Jenius, but Severapurple does. Gets a lot of value!
2 days and my hocus pocus is at 1900 π
yeah I have all the mage skill bubbles at 90% and have gotten all the w5 applicable equipment to boost, was why I went for resample hoping it'd get the 1b
Nice π Just hit 1900 myself
finally got around to booking vmans cooking talent, just dropped cooking times by like 1/30th


