#lategame-chat-w5πŸŒ‹-w6🌸

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sick sentinel
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dont hold me accountable if it goes wrong, but you can click squirrel if its over chems

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or are you worried since its on the edge

glacial venture
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are you on the 15 chem task?

paper sail
paper sail
sick sentinel
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fair enough

glacial venture
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then no big prob

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but you should be able to click lower left on it

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basicly its nutz

paper sail
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It moves eventually πŸ˜›

glacial venture
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i want your nugget^^

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mine is only at 154k

paper sail
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I want a better nugget Grumblo_Pensive

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Has been the same now for over a month I think

glacial venture
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whats your shovel lvl?

paper sail
glacial venture
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so 8 higher than me

pastel bramble
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You don't have to click squirrel everytime he stores nuts, I click once every 10 chems or so 😁

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But then again each of my upgrades costs 2.2k nuts so my upgrades take longer

paper sail
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Yeah πŸ˜› I just like the routine

summer grail
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What gear should I push for to prep for w6? I hate the idea of multiple sets. Have chiz helmets and a combo of void/lustre right now

sick sentinel
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anvil tab 5 stuff

paper sail
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If you are unwilling to remake when w6 comes out, Magma is the safe bet

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We don't know yet if W6 armor is going to craft out of Magma, Kruk, or start a new line

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Stopping at Magma gets you safe in 2/3rds of those situations

sick sentinel
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it would be hilarious if it went from diabolical

paper sail
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Pls no

sick sentinel
last vortex
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when is choc chip coming?

sick sentinel
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i think the 13th

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jk 27th

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13th is a doubler

weak vector
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it's also on IT

sick sentinel
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ye i like the view of the doc a tad more but it is on there as well

last vortex
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Im doomed

weak vector
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actually IT and that document have different information.

sick sentinel
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time to candy on sb!

weak vector
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hammer hammer, anvil stamp, anvil points, archer skill

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you have 20 days, that's perfectly doable

soft chasm
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Yeah, I had it done in a fraction of that from nothiong. Use/upgrade the alchemy bubble, buy all the points and as meny of the metrial points you can, 3x pruduction on the spurs (you can use all 3 hammer on the same thing if you've missed that till now)

bold quiver
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make sure to increase all anvil production sources, 26 days is more than enough to get 200k

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i believe in u

glacial venture
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you are only doomed if you just give up without trying

manic moat
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Do SB kills help anvil production?

weak vector
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no, only forge

sick sentinel
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candies progress it, but there is the town production talent tho its prob small

sacred verge
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100k is not very hard

manic moat
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so hammer hammer is the way to go for that then, I just don't make enough atoms just yet to increase that a bunch

sick sentinel
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if you can print the iron its good to do so

sacred verge
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dont need alot of hammer hammer (if any) to get 100k in a week

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get all chars producing and claim often

manic moat
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I'm not in that conversation, my questions was unrelated

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I'll try printing iron and see how it goes...thanks

sacred verge
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what are you trying to do?

manic moat
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my goal for all of this is to be able to use atoms to increase my luk...trying to increase my vman dmg

sick sentinel
sacred verge
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atoms are not well spent for luk

sick sentinel
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luck wont help much with vman dmg

sacred verge
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but sure thing

manic moat
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oof, how to increase dmg then...I need NM kruk

sick sentinel
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quickest way would be quick slap

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most beneficial would be eclipse skulls, statues, booked and maxed talents, sailing artifats (oo fun)

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it helps to have kachow onyxed

rapid python
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question about sailing and IT. Ive been trying to get the Fury Relic for some time. My "Chests" tab shows one chest from Fungi Meadows island, but it shows "No More Artifacts!". I definitely have not found this yet. What does this mean? Can my loot level be too low to find it?

sacred verge
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quickslap and boosting luk bubble is not needed at all for NM kruk with vman

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with the equinox dmg buff its even easier

worthy helm
manic moat
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only at 16b dmg for my vman

sacred verge
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very easy actually

sacred verge
worthy helm
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If there's no % there u either have it maxed out or haven't gotten enough rift for eldritch

slender sandal
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don't forget to go full degen on your chips/cards for damage too for vman nkruk

rapid python
sacred verge
worthy helm
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Ingame

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When there's a chest from said island in the loot pile to be opened

manic moat
sacred verge
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and eclipse

rapid python
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ok, so i should up my loot change i guess

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why does IT show "no artifact" tho

worthy helm
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Classic idleon help site

manic moat
sacred verge
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yes

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and now eclipse

worthy helm
# rapid python

There's other artifacts that increase artifact chance btw if u haven't gotten it already

rapid python
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i think i have every art before fungi meadows now

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just waiting on this one

worthy helm
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Are they gold tho?

rapid python
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nah. i have people at whatever their max 2hr trip is right now. i can focus on whatever island that is

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oh it is

worthy helm
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Well it is up to luck then

manic moat
sacred verge
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candy w1 eclipse

rapid python
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just spent 21m on loot level for my fastest captain, will see

manic moat
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would take forever, I'm only getting 1m/hour on gmush

fallen torrent
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+1 into power of 10 atom perk! πŸ˜„

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Helium?

sacred verge
worthy helm
fallen torrent
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oh yeah baby a nice boost

sacred verge
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in my opinion

worthy helm
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Just loot amount

manic moat
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how to increase killing to get 1b kills then?

worthy helm
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Also kpk

sacred verge
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MK, dmg, afk

fallen torrent
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death kill

sacred verge
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death note

fallen torrent
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death note*

rapid python
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loot value i meant, sorry

sacred verge
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cards and chips

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gear

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everything

manic moat
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MK?

fallen torrent
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multikill

sacred verge
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alchemy

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also lab 2x kills and nobisect

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also sounds like you are lacking in alot of areas, so my tip would be to backtrack worlds and get stuff up to date

manic moat
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lately I've been trading off active sitting my bubo in worms to increase liquid and grind time and sitting my ES at suggma for that recipe

sacred verge
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bubo for grind time dose not sound like anythign you need atm

rapid python
sacred verge
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2 weeks of suggma sounds like very low DR

manic moat
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lucky you then. I've been there much longer now

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my ES DR is x9+ now still onthing

sacred verge
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in my opinion you are pushing stuff thats ment for "more developed" accounts

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instead of pushing the easy stuff

glacial venture
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dont count the kills on deathnote....for recipe mk dont count

sacred verge
glacial venture
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yep

manic moat
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still no recipe

sacred verge
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seems like youve been unlucky aswell

rapid python
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took me 900 or so

sacred verge
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but it would be significantly faster if you worked on your dr first

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at 9 dr you have alot to go on

manic moat
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what are the main sources. I'm 4* on all the cards.

sacred verge
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well there are many sources

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tips and tricks have a sheet

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perfect for you

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but if your obols aint on point yet thats 100% something you need to do asap

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dice and pop obols

rapid python
glacial venture
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skull head and boots for instance

reef comet
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Does slush obol reroll for skill efficiency? I've noticed it drop to 2% a few rolls, but does it hit 4% if I keep rerolling?

glacial venture
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which is likely out of your reach

rapid python
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neverm,ind, thats crystal chance i am thinking of

manic moat
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skull head boots?

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like divine gear?

glacial venture
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helmet and boots

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yes

manic moat
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all my characters have all that

sacred verge
rapid python
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of the obols in w3, mk, construction, worship, trapping, which are worth working on?

sacred verge
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none

rapid python
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i thought construction at a min

paper sail
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Construction is godly

sacred verge
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oh sorry

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lol

paper sail
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I would still say to get Worship and Trapping, just personal sets

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MK is doodoo though. Can be skipped other than slab. It is πŸ’© because it is flat MK. Can be okay early, but falls off haaarrrrdddd

rapid python
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ok, no mk thought?

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ok, thanks

sacred verge
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only cons thats a must have

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trapping and worship aint a pressing matter

paper sail
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Yeah. Cons is like S tier, Worship and Trapping are probably C tier. MK is D.

manic moat
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not sure what I'm looking at with this calculater

paper sail
sacred verge
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you dont need to use the calculator

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use it as a guide for DR source

paper sail
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You look through and see Oh this source can give up to 300 but I only have 180 of it. That is a target to work on grumblo_thumbsup

sacred verge
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you can see every source of DR. look at it ----> get it

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and no source is too small or "not important"

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you want everything

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EVERYTHING!

glacial venture
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the dr from pack is insane too

sacred verge
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plunder is big also

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bigger than biggest

glacial venture
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atm im on 19.82 dr...and it still feels low

sacred verge
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thats cus it is

paper sail
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GuyMontag Time for the daily "what happened to my DR" hunt

sacred verge
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thats me literally everytime i change chars

paper sail
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It is the worst

sacred verge
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yup

paper sail
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I know my DK should have around 23.8 in crystal setup

sacred verge
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yeah something like that for me aswell

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gonna be even worse now with the weekly boss talent

glacial venture
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cant even afford refinery stamp lvl atm....

paper sail
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oh fuck do neither of my SB have plunder leveled in skilling builds

sacred verge
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exactly the same for me. discovered it earlier today

paper sail
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phew, no, they do

sick sentinel
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weekly boss?

glacial venture
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in w2

sick sentinel
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oh it was mentioned

sacred verge
paper sail
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Good there. Got me the other day though lol

weak vector
sick sentinel
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obol swap?

paper sail
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That'll do it

weak vector
paper sail
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Screwed that up all night, oh well.

weak vector
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1 godshard

paper sail
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I mean he's fighting beans..

sacred verge
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i feel like my 2nd SB is lvling terrible slow compared to 1st one

paper sail
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You'll never know how much I have anyway lol

sick sentinel
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this is all from beans lol

weak vector
gaunt shale
paper sail
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Got me there

weak vector
sick sentinel
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got the receipts

paper sail
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You know how much I had 5 days ago 🀣

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I do actually need to update that. I was holding off until I finished my tasks, but those finished last night happy

sacred verge
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literally actived wurms for 7 hours on SB and i got from lvl 425 to 455....

sick sentinel
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u maxed your flag talent?

sacred verge
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yes

paper sail
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I had better results doubling Moonmoon than Poops on SB

sacred verge
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:S

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did thjat

weak vector
sick sentinel
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yeah i doubled moonmoon too

fallen torrent
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Hi everyone by the way πŸ˜„ how you all doing

sick sentinel
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aint no way sb is their lowest lvl lol

weak vector
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then yer losing out

paper sail
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Lowest is reserved for BB lol

weak vector
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this is a skilling set btw, my BB was at 50x before i put him at crystal island

rich epoch
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my bad bubo is now officially my highest levelled character

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now is it still the bad bubo?

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yes because other than the buboing talents are not even booked

glacial venture
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my 2nd dk is my highest char

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9th char i made

rich epoch
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now it will be the first char to hit 500 and then back to lab jail it goes before I get an elite swap

glacial venture
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543

rich epoch
glacial venture
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i just want w6 to drop...so i can lvl all to 500+ fast

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still takes ages in w5...my gt is too low....

sacred verge
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takes ages even with 20k GT

glacial venture
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7969

rich epoch
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just get 100k gt

glacial venture
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1k too high....

sacred verge
rich epoch
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good luck Grumblo_Pray

sacred verge
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thanks

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i just cant understand how 7 hours of SB afk at wurms turns into lvl 425-455

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thats so shitty

rich epoch
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with crystals?

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crystal cards, I mean

sacred verge
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flag is 310

rich epoch
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Welp, SB is really just that terrible

sacred verge
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its not

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my other SB got 515 like a breeze

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easier than ES

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it felt like atleast

rich epoch
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well, why then?

sacred verge
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idk

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i suspect ive been lagging like crazy

rich epoch
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it's cursed Grumblo_Pray

sacred verge
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as i came back to full inv (fcking leaves)

rich epoch
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LMFAO

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that's a nice problem to have at least

sacred verge
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also found out my star talent for crystals was at 0, meaning i has 1 in 75 chance

rich epoch
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told ya. crystals Grumblo_Pray

glacial venture
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then you know why

sacred verge
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still tho

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the game wasnt lagging when i turned on monitors, so im nto sure if it did at some point or not

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but the ground was packed with leaves

sick sentinel
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did you cloudsave and have a lot of desync?

sacred verge
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havent look, il do that

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hmm

sick sentinel
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yup that and the crystal spawn

sacred verge
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probably

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thats sad

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means i have to do overnight SB

bold quiver
sacred verge
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extra?

sick sentinel
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thats just time lost active, aint no extra

sacred verge
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yeah thats exactly what i was thinking

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all i care about is my damn lvls so i can get of this char Grumblo_with_bunny_ears_partying

lilac bolt
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should i follow combustion lvl setup?

sacred verge
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follow whats pinned in w3 chat

sleek ermine
sacred verge
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its low

sleek ermine
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For you yes

sacred verge
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its low for any1

teal lynx
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I'M FREE PogPig

sleek ermine
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Average joe in w5 its okay/slightly high

sacred verge
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when the good DR is at 20+

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and you lack alot of sources

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then its low

ocean lily
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slow and steady....

sacred verge
sleek ermine
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Its subjective my friend

sacred verge
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its not

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if a player at that point has sub 10 DR its because DR has been very very very neglected

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and considering how easy it is to get way more its low

drifting breach
sacred verge
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if you had to grind for months to get more id agree. but for a guy with 9 dr we are talking large impovements in a day or two

manic moat
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not easy to get way more.

drifting breach
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Who cares bro

sick sentinel
drifting breach
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Make the game lag

sacred verge
thin kernel
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any good map for "giant" farm ? πŸ˜„ ofc on a bobo πŸ˜‰

teal lynx
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Learn the absolutely random movement and get lucky Grumblo

rough wasp
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What’s ur bit multi now

teal lynx
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820x from Achievements

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Got another 3 today grumblo_steal

sick sentinel
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and pc issue lol

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spilled cider on it one time, still runnin tho grumblo_thumbsup

teal lynx
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Good PC Grumblo_Pray

rough wasp
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PC was thirsty anyways

sick sentinel
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sharing is caring

south root
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Anyone wanna help me name my 10th character? Gonna be my second SB

sick sentinel
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u got a theme?

thin kernel
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statue_farmer_bot?

glacial venture
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thats a name for a dk

thin kernel
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oh yes sry

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for a sb.. afkalots

sacred verge
south root
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Nope I didn’t have that much forethought unfortunately lol

weak vector
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p is for piercing, of course. why? what did you think

south root
south root
teal lynx
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There ain't a better name than Jacks P Arrow for a SB tbh. Tony got a hidden talent PogPig

amber dagger
paper sail
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wat

sick sentinel
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all i could think of is gregolas for some reason

amber dagger
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Chocolate *

sick sentinel
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choco chip is coming dec 27

paper sail
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You can gamble for it in the gemshop if you like

sick sentinel
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prep now

paper sail
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Otherwise yes, gotta wait

rough wasp
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Think next one is Feb

amber dagger
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Ahh bc I been waiting to get it😭

rough wasp
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after the dec one

weak vector
amber dagger
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One comes this December?

rough wasp
amber dagger
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Ooo bet

weak vector
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a lot of mine are puns on names but they're not for the right character. Ex: My DKs are Sir Smithers and Elon Musket, but those should've been my archers

fervent brook
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What fertilizer speed levels is pushing for T6 plants reasonable?

weak vector
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Scuffed names bc it was the classes i was lacking at the time

rough wasp
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I shoulda named mine duck1,2,3

south root
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Is there a way to check name availability without committing btw?

rough wasp
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nope

paper sail
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I'm nervous about future names tbh

south root
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Wait nvm. It’s taken with caps

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Without caps it worked

rough wasp
south root
amber dagger
weak vector
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i guess it wasn't taken, then?

sick sentinel
lilac bolt
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early just buy whatever available captain?
Obraz

south root
lilac bolt
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i should aim for better captain or just buy

sick sentinel
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buy what you can for now, then replace later with better

south root
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jacks p arrow has taken his rightful spot on the divinity altar

paper sail
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How am I already out of water GuyMontag I refilled last night

sleek ermine
paper sail
rough wasp
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Too many bubbles GuyMontag

keen rapids
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Other than QS is there any other quick way to increase dps on beginner?

whole slate
keen rapids
whole slate
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make this into ur 2nd bb then if u dont have 2

whole slate
whole slate
paper sail
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They already know they're playing non-meta

rough wasp
keen rapids
whole slate
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who hurt u

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not even tryna be rude but like y tho

keen rapids
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So since no one said any other ways to increase dmg im presuming it's just alchemy QS and nothing else really increases it?

paper sail
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Damage is the culmination of 100 different sources. It isn't easy to just list

sacred verge
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eclipse

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equinox

keen rapids
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Alchemy wise ^ *

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Is anything more efficent than doing qs

paper sail
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No

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I mean probably Power Trione up to a point?

keen rapids
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Do you got any clue what point that might be?

paper sail
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But after that is idk 250 or something, I'm sure QS wins

rough wasp
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More feasty for Zoomies Grumblo_Pray

keen rapids
whole slate
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do u get a trait in td every 5 lvls of the tower?

paper sail
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Looks like level 450 is 90% of the bubble value for 20.7% total damage per 250 LUK, but your LUK is pretty PinchyPic so I doubt it helps as much as QS to go that high even

rough wasp
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I think 80% is 200

paper sail
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Something around that, yeah

rough wasp
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And ngl even when I leveled that shit to see if it changed dmg on my warrior

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Didn’t really do shit lol

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So prob QS better GuyMontag

paper sail
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Depends on your stats πŸ˜› I can see the difference these days with 30-40k main stat

rough wasp
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I’m 35k

hexed crescent
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wtf just happened.. Highest until now is 105%

paper sail
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Couldn't see it as much back when I got the bubble under 10k lol

sacred verge
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QS is a better option in the long run for dmg

rough wasp
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I leveled it with one day of atoms for fun GuyMontag

sacred verge
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QS get better the more lvls you get

rough wasp
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Shoulda clicked Bob

paper sail
keen rapids
fallen torrent
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+1 Helium felt so great!!!!

paper sail
rough wasp
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But maybe Hmm

elfin cape
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See? We care about you happy

warm juniper
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hey, i just reached w5 and i wanna ask is there a way to get more than 1 exp/h for divinity when i start out, am i missing something?

paper sail
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Nope 😦

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There are eventual bonuses, but nothing immediate the minute you walk into W5 for the first time

heavy moth
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how bad is the idea to let bubo afk in fractal the time im on dk

sick sentinel
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but also why lol

heavy moth
sick sentinel
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first do that deffinitely

heavy moth
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cause i think if i check each 1 afk hours, i ve more chance to get trophy

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i might be wrong tho

paper sail
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2x their Health, and no.

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Only for cases when you can get more DR than the original rate

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So for somethin with a base 1 in 5 rate, sure. Something with 1 in 20k, no

rare portal
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what should i prio ?

paper sail
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For unlocking? Equinox Fish, Equinox Ore, Honkers, purple salt.. then just start to finish I guess?

rare portal
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like upgrading

paper sail
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You can unlock them in any order.

tacit tulip
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yeah the tip shows you what's technically next (think it skips bobjoe) but there's nothing stoppinf you doing them in any order

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right lava you were warned. I'm at world 6 now time to spoil all the new stuff grumblo_steal

tulip sundial
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When is a good point to start working on rifts? I'm at 250ish in w5

noble sable
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Never

tacit tulip
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honestly it's worth trying at any time

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Worst case scenario you can't do it and know you need to work on getting strongert

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for what it's worth, early rift is generally walled by your skills rather than your damage

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the mobs aren't strong, but can you kill them quick enough?

paper sail
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I've been trying to find a list of approx max damage needed for clearing each Rift that gives a reward. If anyone knows or has notes they've beaten Rift at, hit me up Hearto

hexed crescent
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Does anyone know if cogs scale with cons lvl or some other modifier?

tacit tulip
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level of your highest char

simple edge
paper sail
simple edge
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i wont make the spice before next week how can i speed up the process quick :S

hexed crescent
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Alright thanks, do either of you know if it has a cap?

paper sail
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No known caps, no

hexed crescent
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thanks

tacit tulip
# simple edge

to be honest with you bud, there's no easy way to get the later spices fast until you unlock the top tier pets -a nd even then it's slow

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Your best bet is to claim that spice any time it's at 1

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if you manage to use your 100 daily spices, the spice talent can let you get more

paper sail
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That's dedication, but also it is the best lab jewel Grumblo_Pray

hexed crescent
tacit tulip
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tbh I'd probably just look at spending all my keys to generate gems from bosses

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and buy the world 4 weekly

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until you have them all (you can't roll dupes on lab gems)

paper sail
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If you have a wee bit of patience, check the schedule for the next couple weeks for anything you can already afford and wait to gamba until after buying

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Sucks to gamba and roll what you could have bought normally in a week

simple edge
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didnt know there was a schedule...

meager jackal
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how do i get a flag score off over 150 if vman talent keeps making it reset past 100

paper sail
solar forge
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toolbox also shows the schedule

paper sail
simple edge
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yeah just found that on google πŸ™‚
Can buy all until february 28.

meager jackal
paper sail
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If you don't have it set on your other preset, you can just do that instead of a full talent reset

gaunt forge
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which class farms the most kruk keys per hour?

paper sail
meager jackal
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your bot is great by the way thanks a lot

simple edge
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no wait not the green ones

meager jackal
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gonna have to wait anyways

tacit tulip
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if you're oneshotting the mobs the things that'll primarily help are levelling skills that hit more mobs (like the mini balls or homing arrows) and movement speed to change platforms quicker

paper sail
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Some maps better than others, too. Citringes I think might be best?

tacit tulip
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for the flag achievement you have to do it at moltis

paper sail
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Ah! Right. Good call

glacial venture
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if i remember correctly you only want 1 point in the flag skill...so the plunderous dont get too much hp

tacit tulip
#

crystal chance can help with that achievment too

#

crystal mobs don't consume a coin to spawn but can drop them

simple edge
#

am i doing something wrong when i have way too much of the 2nd liquid?

#

theres only 4 bubbles for it and not many vials

tacit tulip
#

nah, it's kinda a self fulfilling prophecy

#

You hjave more water 2 so you get more to spent on capacity/rate

#

but that only means you get...more water 2

glacial venture
#

obols

simple edge
#

why is the bleach liquid cauldrons recommended gems?

tacit tulip
#

water is a big factor in late game progression

#

water 2 may not be used for much but it still has uses

eternal wasp
#

Um, why I'm I not able to send screenshot Soulface

glacial venture
#

spam protection

#

you must lvl up by writing stuff first#

eternal wasp
#

Idk what you mean

tacit tulip
#

they have a colour picked they should be high enough

sick sentinel
eternal wasp
#

I'm on mobile app

#

Ok, updating it fixed Grumblo_Pray

sick sentinel
elfin cape
#

Clearly a skill issue

eternal wasp
sick sentinel
#

they liked it that much Grumblo_Pray

eternal wasp
#

That was for the test, but ig grumblo_shh

noble sable
paper sail
woeful jackal
#

how do you lower minimum time for sailing

#

And how do you increase divinity EXP

rich epoch
#

level up sb

#

skill up es

rough wasp
worthy helm
paper sail
worthy helm
rough wasp
#

Also it’s fucking expensive for me now GuyMontag I think it’s eating almost 80 black lenses at 70s GuyMontag

simple edge
#

my week is ruined after learning i wont be getting the jewel...

rough wasp
#

Oh I didn’t scroll to the right side cus I’m on my phone hahaha

paper sail
rough wasp
paper sail
#

At least as far as Mastery goes, a level is a level. But it sucks that the shrine itself is worthless

rough wasp
#

But I’m back to beans for now

rich epoch
paper sail
#

Copium take, it'll be buffed in the future

rough wasp
#

I still level it now for cons mastery just cause it’s fast to build but I’m gonna need to get more black lenses soon

#

I hope he uncaps it and buffs it a few percentages lol

rich epoch
#

he uncaps the afk gains but make it work only on chars up to level 50

paper sail
#

Just like w1 cards omegalul

ornate zinc
#

chizoar just doesnt want to give me scarf :(

#

is it better to do chaotic or normal

paper sail
#

For key efficiency, normal is the best odds. Time efficiency, go higher difficulties.

simple edge
#

how many flurbo points do end game ppl get i feel like theres way too long untill i get 10k for the last rings

green eagle
#

I don’t even bother doing dungeons anymore, still have over 100k flurbos sitting worthless in the bank

prisma drift
#

I get like 30K per week

#

But I use 40 tickets

sick orchid
#

Whats the level for efficient orb again?

sick sentinel
#

267 with mana box, if you can get there 300 without is better

rich epoch
#

I just didn't finish my opal and necklace sets yet due to not having time

#

rank 49 or something

tacit tulip
#

hopefully lava doesn't put in any other sources of CDR in world 6

#

or, at least fixes the skills that overlap

drifting breach
#

What’s cdr

buoyant bronze
#

If you have doot does it matter whether you link to any gods? Any benefit or drawback or does it just not matter?

tacit tulip
#

You need someone linked to purrmep to get the minor bonus

#

Additionally, it's not a terrible idea to have your remaining characters linked to bear. Some sites (mostly IE) don't display doot for everything, which can result in it looking like your lab is disconnected. Bear prevents that

tacit tulip
#

cool down reduction

buoyant bronze
tacit tulip
#

Specifically IE doesn't show companions when sharing public builds πŸ™‚

#

So you can do the same with sheepie and some of your bubbles so theyshow up correctly

buoyant bronze
#

Interesting. I have sheepie so I just keep zero bubbles equipped to keep it clean. Maybe that’s a mistake.

tacit tulip
#

it kinda struggles to estimate when your anvil/charge will be full without it

#

with vs without

buoyant bronze
#

Interesting. I need to use IE more overall.

tacit tulip
#

It's a powerful tool (as is toolbox)

rough wasp
#

Another E Grumblo_Pray

paper sail
#

Right on my tail

rough wasp
#

Coming for you Grumblo_Pray

paper sail
#

Gonna make me spend my ladles 😦

rough wasp
#

How many ladles do you have rn? Grumblo_scared

paper sail
#

36k

rough wasp
#

Ok If you spend, I will match

paper sail
#

Was saving for Cabbage, but I guess I hit it now

rough wasp
#

but I gotta do my CCD first GuyMontag I slacked too much on it

barren otter
#

woo ccd

paper sail
#

Hm

rough wasp
paper sail
#

IT now asks me for Food Lust stacks

#

I wonder where I can actually see the number of stacks I have

barren otter
#

equinox tab

paper sail
#

Oh dope

#

Wasn't there last I looked

#

I think I mentally decided saving up for at least 3 was good

#

That's just about 50% discount

#

51.2% cost, 48.8% discount after 3 stacks

barren otter
#

yea think it was very recent

paper sail
#

My ladle routine has been saving up for a cooking speed upgrade, then any meal costing 200 or less

#

idk if that is optimal but 🀷

barren otter
#

better than my current routine of nothing

paper sail
barren otter
#

i put BB on div as soon as it hit 500

#

so until it hits +17 arctis no laddles happy

weak vector
barren otter
#

LOL that is tragic

paper sail
rotund raptor
#

Does anyone know why my printer used to display all amounts in purple with a swirl after I got doot, but now the numbers are golden with a star. Isn't that a downgrade?

paper sail
#

Usually just a visual bug

fervent brook
#

Lava should apply Pickle Jar vial to Fractal Island

vital wave
#

so i need artifacts

#

i have 15 bottled wind

#

do i use SB talent ?

full granite
#

Dont use sb talent (it reduces the amount of chests per collection)

fervent brook
#

Are there any other skills where maxing it out is actually detrimental like orb? Hope he fixies that things one day.

full granite
#

Since the sb talent disables the feature where captains wait to deliver an extra chest if the pile is full

#

not sure about it but i thought cranium too?

noble sable
#

Abluble

paper sail
#

Wormhole with Mana PO Box has a 108 second cooldown. It hits 108 second duration at talent level 325

thorn marsh
#

this really worth?

barren otter
#

good to have 1 just to push dmg for shimmer trials

thorn marsh
#

true

rich epoch
#

I mean you're right

#

didn't know think of that

thorn marsh
#

but that's alot of pvc

rich epoch
#

yeah. maybe I'll candy some

#

maybe

barren otter
#

honestly not a big deal if you miss it imo

ashen marsh
#

which skill makes my build rate go up? happens when i switch to bb

paper sail
zinc shoal
#

you construction level + alchemy level

ashen marsh
swift rose
#

which pets are converter pets

next locust
#

It's the only real way to get it to atom range, so, yes

paper sail
next locust
#

200 is the breakpoint with maxed discount (sadface ;_;) so you'll probs reach it much earlier if you're not stupid like I was

#

200, assuming 200 discount bubble for nblb reasons, and maxed boost discount for orange cauldron

next locust
paper sail
#

I liked 950

next locust
#

Is 2% the hard cap?

paper sail
#

450 is 90% bubble max

#

950 is 95% bubble max

next locust
#

Thanks. So 950 I do

jade folio
#

what level of sailing gives access to the green captain?

paper sail
#

Even the little invisible 0.0X number adds up when you have close to 1k construction levels

next locust
#

Yeh exponential growth is crazy

paper sail
#

Oh, I lied. 50 apparently

jade folio
#

ahh, so i just have bad rng since ive never seen one

paper sail
#

from the pins

next locust
#

Carpenter is exponential, right? Or just additive with itself?

paper sail
#

You only have a ~1.33% chance of getting t5 (green) captain at level 50

rain echo
#

can you use big pick with ore sampling?

paper sail
paper sail
rain echo
#

tyty

paper sail
#

wow sailing captain chances are some bullshit

#

I hate that I've seen this

#

t0 captain's chance goes down to 0.84% chance at level 50, then starts INCREASING again Soulface

#

It isn't huge but at 140 sailing I have a 1.62% chance to a t0 captain. Almost doubled for no good reason

ashen marsh
paper sail
#

Alch bubble cost reductions. Things like Iron Bar Vial, bubble cauldron > boost > cost, orange bargain, the yellow Undeveloped Costs bubble

jade folio
#

TBH, kinda wish we would lose the ability to even pull lower level captains at certain breakpoints

glacial venture
#

we would still get shitty captains

ashen marsh
#

ahh this one?

paper sail
#

Less shitty though lol

glacial venture
#

since only max stats cap raises

ashen marsh
#

shittt I should get this one higher

steady beacon
#

What's the multiplier from lab+harriep? X8?

paper sail
# ashen marsh shittt I should get this one higher

Yes and no. Now with the Atom Collider allowing us to upgrade bubbles once they hit 100m resource cost, any time you increase your bubble cost reduction, you also increase the level you need before you can use Atom clicks on them.

paper sail
ashen marsh
#

i only have 4 atoms unlocked.

steady beacon
#

Ah! Ok, I thought it was higher!

ashen marsh
#

this ones so-so right

kindred dagger
#

If you only have 10,000 green salt to spare, do you get meaty traps, glauss skull, or the materials bag? Or something else?

paper sail
next locust
#

It's my favourite qol atom, tbh xP
But yeah it's bad

paper sail
paper sail
jade folio
#

didn't gaming have am import which increases atom cap levels by 10?

paper sail
kindred dagger
paper sail
#

Only a small handful of people (like 10) have reached it

next locust
paper sail
#

And he pre-programmed purple and blue bits

next locust
jade folio
#

probably only see it during or after W6

steady beacon
#

Oooh, the artifact multi?

#

I currently have 1.06

paper sail
sacred monolith
#

Yeah, check IE for your actual producing rate

paper sail
#

IT gives a nice list of the bonuses

steady beacon
#

Where in ie is the 3d printer located?

paper sail
#

w3 > cons > printer

sacred monolith
#

Actually I just noticed there's a difference in the boosted values between IE and IT. Probably IE not taking one of the bonuses into account. IT is probably better then

lyric sequoia
#

Is time

steady beacon
#

Thanks, I'll use it then.

lyric sequoia
#

Time to still not get plate 60 turkies with 100k ladles waow

glacial venture
#

cant be worse than mine

#

realized i didnt have the eldritch ....

modern plaza
glacial venture
#

just need 1m balloons or so^^

lyric sequoia
#

Anyone got better ideas for the ladle use? All the meal cooking speed meals, turkey, al lthe skilll efficiency ones and cannoli for TD is what i have atm

sick sentinel
#

thats about what i did

paper sail
#

I did a full send on double cherries

#

math hard

barren otter
#

full send bits..

rough wasp
#

i forgot to reset the po6 yesterday

lyric sequoia
#

Whoops

#

I knew 100k ladles woulldn't get me 60 turkey Soulface

#

Gotta actuallly do my other TDs now to get them alll over 121, big sad

next locust
tacit tulip
#

you've lost less than you think, using 100k ladles is real inefficient anway

#

I wouldn't sweat it

old crane
#

The other kitchens are a lot slower, so prioritize some on the first few kitchens?

#

I'm only at 86k or so

slender sandal
#

meal speed, skill eff, canoli

#

or thanksgiving chad full send

lyric sequoia
#

eh, my slowest kitchen was 4e32 and fastest 3e33, not a huge difference

old crane
#

I probably need to level those other kitchens more

#

And get all richelin upgrades lol

proud pumice
lyric sequoia
#

I wish there was a time skip sorta thing on TD

#

Where the game simulates up to the wave time limit (if necessary) in a few minutes, so you're not actually waiting hours for health to go to 0 on a wave that is guaranteed never to move

rich epoch
#

double speed

#

triple speed

rough wasp
#

hexa

rich epoch
#

make it a gem purchase to speed up TD

#

just make the suffering stop sooner EmojiSuperSad

lyric sequoia
#

Though I 100% expect something that doubles the speed would fuck up the logic on the enemies and make them skip through kraken eyes

rich epoch
#

oh, absolutely

#

I'd still take it

cerulean hemlock
#

Hello HAchin

rich epoch
#

or more slow cooking levels

#

hey portal

cerulean hemlock
rich epoch
#

wrong avatar tho

cerulean hemlock
#

How are you? Alt's at snowmen

lyric sequoia
#

Krakens passed the 500k damage per tick point though, so damage speeding a fair bit

#

err, poisons rather

rich epoch
lyric sequoia
#

150 cans is 800b health sad

cerulean hemlock
rich epoch
#

🀭

lyric sequoia
#

Game suffering frame drops even without damage numbers, that's a yikers moment

cerulean hemlock
#

Chat is choking

lyric sequoia
#

There we go, wave 150 maintained and being pushed back

#

That was cllose

old crane
lyric sequoia
#

Close call, just got to 750k points to drop another kraken down

young nest
#

Kruk armor stone for my first kruk pants worth it? Or regular w5 stone? I lack salt to craft more

old crane
#

I think my canoli needs to be higher to afford all the towers

rough wasp
#

Reg stones better

#

Unless ur into gambling Ok

kindred dagger
#

Is there a way to increase regular item drop volume? Does multikill matter?

lyric sequoia
#

More DR

young nest
#

Ye, Im afraid of failing more than % says otherwise I assume it would be similar

old crane
#

Normal mob items are helped by mk

kindred dagger
lyric sequoia
#

DR effects all drops

#

Hence the name

old crane
cerulean hemlock
old crane
#

Normal mob items should be mk, respawn, fight afk%

kindred dagger
# old crane

So does DR have anything to do with the regular drop table? I don't have any low hanging fruit in the DR category right now.

old crane
#

I don't think it does for the top left item on loot table

#

I'm not totally sure tho

cerulean hemlock
old crane
#

Frisbee

#

the item you would sample for mob mats

cerulean hemlock
#

Ah

old crane
lyric sequoia
#

DR affects quantity of basic drops, which is why ES is the best basic mat farmer

old crane
#

No mention of dr there either, so don't think dr affects base drop

#

I think es is cuz wormhole spawns a lot of mobs?

proud pumice
#

if that was the case, bubo kills a lot more mobs than es

#

so he would be better

old crane
#

Or wormhole is different than dr

old crane
#

doesn't mention dr there, just drop

proud pumice
#

i'm pretty sure that's drop rate

#

its just that multikill is more significative than dr for base drops

#

since you can get a lot more multikill than get dr

lyric sequoia
#

"& Drop"

#

Literally says DR

proud pumice
#

i mean it says drop

lyric sequoia
#

Drop = drop rate

proud pumice
#

but his point is this drop could be something other than dr

lyric sequoia
#

There are 4 or 5 names for the same thing

old crane
#

not necessarily

kindred dagger
#

So there's no consensus? I'm wondering if I should run a damage card set, or a DR card set while farming regular drops. What would you guys do?

proud pumice
#

DR

lyric sequoia
#

Yes necessarily, that's what it is

#

I mean you don't need to run damge cards period

old crane
#

Unless higher mk tier

lyric sequoia
#

Card set is always the 4 main DR cards, then 2 for whatever you're doing at hte time in the doubler spots

kindred dagger
lyric sequoia
#

MK for active ES, crystal for DK active, etc

rich epoch
lyric sequoia
#

Just get more damage yo

rich epoch
#

even tho you're insane Grumblo_Pray

lyric sequoia
#

Though I say that as I check my cards on my BM and notice it's all damage cards lmao

old crane
#

Bm needs the help lol

lyric sequoia
#

Haven't done anything except TD with my BM for so long that I haven't swapped them around

teal lynx
lyric sequoia
#

Oh it even hass skill efficiency set bonus active Soulface

rich epoch
#

like you can get that done in a few hours of crystal farming

vagrant mountain
#

it's time 🫑

rich epoch
#

and you even get the shards to do it in the process

barren otter
rich epoch
#

new herus pfp is throwing me off so fucking hard

kindred dagger
rich epoch
#

(next cookie is in on the 27th)

barren otter
#

so my pfp is now my pup being high

rich epoch
#

so you're a high pup girl. got it

vagrant mountain
#

bring back cute korean girl GuyMontag

kindred dagger
barren otter
rich epoch
#

even if you don't have the crystal chip maybe it is a good choice for you to farm the dices. dr is just that good of a stat

vagrant mountain
#

just make your own pfp

signal osprey
#

Herus will always be a kpop idol regardless of how high that pup gets

old crane
lyric sequoia
#

Expecting the wiki to be accurate doesn't sound like a fun time

rich epoch
#

don't believe text anywhere

#

ever

barren otter
#

@signal osprey DID YPU SEE NUG

vagrant mountain
#

wiki is right like 99% of the time lol

signal osprey
#

Yeah I predicted it too

lyric sequoia
#

240b health left on this TD wave, so cllose

signal osprey
#

I got the bad nug so you had to get the good one

barren otter
#

you made it happen

rich epoch
barren otter
#

100%

#

yea all thanks to contract

rich epoch
#

always stuck midgame Grumblo_Pray

vagrant mountain
#

contract is the idleon equivalent of jesus

rich epoch
signal osprey
rich epoch
#

where's my wine contracts?

#

fish I'm sure you can do but what about wine?

#

🀭

lyric sequoia
#

50b hp lleft, almost out of this waking nightmare

rough wasp
lyric sequoia
#

Uness 160 is a similalr amount of hp for the wave, then I might have to do 160 too sad

signal osprey
#

160 is easier than 150

unborn bluff
#

Is there a bug where NBLB does trigger if I have don't? I don't think I'm getting free bubbles anymore and I'm not sure why. Everything in lit in the lab

#

If I have doot

lyric sequoia
#

160 is easier until a bunch of skippers maange to get passed my void without being voided D:

#

Thankfully only 17 got through, so salvagablle

#

Kraken eyes have such an interesting interaction with a queue of mobs they are behind, focing a bunch of them back half a screen as it moves to the frontlines

rich epoch
#

bad bubo at 490 Grumblo_Pray

#

wondering how much longer till 500

#

then I have to think again about what to do active GuyMontag

worthy helm
#

Best way to get more movspd for quick slap dmg?

rich epoch
#

don't

#

but pots

solid jolt
#

Is it possible to get samples of rare drops? Like batteries and pearler shells?

rich epoch
#

pots with the feasty statues are probably the fastest and easier way. if you're already doing that then idk

solid jolt
#

Bummer

reef comet
#

So, I'm wanting to overnight on my SB for plunder mob kills, where would be my best bet? I'm thinking someplace like beans with an okay amount of mobs that are all 1shot, high multikill, and respawn fairly quickly on their own?

rich epoch
#

but you get better XP and drops at tremor wurms at a slightly lower plunderous rate

#

when I climbed to 100k I did it at tremors

reef comet
#

Ah, I'm just tryin to hit 1k for now, so I'm no where near either of those maps, or even the dmg required to kill a non-plunder wurm/orange lol

rich epoch
#

you could try lowering the level of the plunderous mobs if you're looking only after kills

#

so they have less hp

manic moat
#

could do gmush for the lab $ gain

rich epoch
#

I'd bet in good maps for bubo so flambierge or them mustaches

#

yeah, gmush wouldn't be terrible and you'd get started on the money buff

reef comet
#

Oh yeah, I forgot about that, gmush it is since I want all the money

#

Thank you

slender sandal
#

just make sure to filter a lot of drops if you overnight there so you don't turn your pc into a space heater with all the loot on the ground

rich epoch
#

yep. if you're early enough you might even need to filter the spore caps itself because of bag sizes

#

good call

reef comet
#

I dunno, a space heater might be needed with how cold it's starting to get lol

rich epoch
reef comet
#

shoot you're right... dang desync

manic moat
#

I'm looking at a tower guide and the word cannoli comes up, what is that?

rich epoch
#

a very tasty pasta roll

manic moat
#

holy cannoli

rich epoch
#

a dish that boosts the amount of points you get for kills in td

manic moat
#

cooking, thanks

rich epoch
#

damn the pray reaction passed the giggling one on my most used. tough times GuyMontag

manic moat
#

I feel so far off from 131 cans tower but I know I'm close lol. sitting on 110 boss right now

rich epoch
#

you can do it. remember that you need your krakens to hold up so make sure that their speed is up with enough parties and then just wait for a lot of time. good luck

manic moat
#

my max was 80 here before this one so I'm making gains

rich epoch
#

I jumped from like 70 to 120 following the guide and with not so great towers so it is deffo possible

manic moat
#

I don't think I have enough dmg for the 110 boss actually, I just realized they are healing lol

cerulean hemlock
rich epoch
#

or let it scale enough

manic moat
#

well... I quit after I realized the scaling...next time

rich epoch
pallid raptor
#

Is there a point to have your arena go above 200

rich epoch
#

flexing

pallid raptor
#

Mine been battling and I’m at 223

lyric sequoia
#

Having a void is like key to getting high level in TD

pallid raptor
#

Still going

rich epoch
#

so not really

cerulean hemlock
lyric sequoia
#

Gotta clean off any abilities the mobs have

pallid raptor
#

So I should stop it?

#

Ok

spark pasture
#

what does the grilled cheese cap out at?

manic moat
#

whatever your food caps out at

spark pasture
#

I ment % wise,seems to slow down alot

rich epoch
#

no cap just diminishing returns

manic moat
#

Can go on forever

rich epoch
#

there is a theorical cap but since it has a lot of variables I don't think someone calculated it

#

Welp, I think they did since there is a formula on the wiki

manic moat
#

lots of boosts to food too though

paper sail
#

My w5 sammys are are up 71.3%

#

For a stack of 1.3m

rich epoch
#

yup. currently my bubo has a 102091 stack at 21.7%

#

not everyone can be a grilled cheese maniac Soulface

paper sail
#

I'm not even wearing a full stack GuyMontag

#

Hold on

#

72.4% ty for this huge gain

rich epoch
#

well, you really shouldn't wear a sandwich

lucid olive
#

For the name I guess bubble how much does it increase by β€œThis bonus increases based on how much Max MP you have above 150.”

paper sail
#

I'm more sandwich than stickfigure at this point

paper sail
#

Otherwise, I'd put it last for the ores. Dementia > Copper > Iron > Void > Platinum > Gold

lucid olive
#

The name of the bubble is stronk?

paper sail
#

Stronk Tools πŸ˜›

lucid olive
#

Ah

rough wasp
#

Name I guess to 10k here i go GuyMontag

paper sail
#

After updating my IE, my best leaderboard spot is 13 PogPig Not quite top 10 but i'll take it

lucid olive
#

How does blood marrow work for the v man

#

I have 89 levels for cooking and it’s only giving me 1% at skill level 100

paper sail
#

The bonus is raised to the power of the number of meals iirc

#

Takes a bit to get going, but it takes off eventually and gives you billions or trillions

rich epoch
paper sail
rich epoch
#

no that only counts for me Grumblo_Pray

paper sail
#

Here, at least 1st in flies

#

oh wait here

#

1st in flies and goldfish

#

AND 69

rich epoch
#

well, you're good so that is expected. it is much more funny when it is mine

paper sail
#

I'm not good though lol

rich epoch
rich epoch
rough wasp
#

one more claim Grumblo_Pray

paper sail
#

I promise it is strong and worth maxing out

#

Kinda feeds itself. Faster levels = more levels = faster levels = more levels

fallen torrent
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i had 64.9k plunderous kill.... now i have 39k why

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im confusedddd

proud pumice
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the mobs revolted and plundered your account grumblo_thumbsup

paper sail
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You'd be the first I heard of someone losing stacks

rough wasp
fallen torrent
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can they be different on 2 char??

rough wasp
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watch my snail demote again

proud pumice
rough wasp
manic moat
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...got demoted today

rough wasp
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its almost been 2months

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and im still sub 10 Ok

paper sail
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ugh. I thought I was almost 99% finished with Heart Diggy, but I mixed up numbers. 99% is 9900 not 4900 GuyMontag 5k more to go

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I'm trying to think about my snail. Not upgrading, but also not resetting. I don't wanna curse it

azure spindle
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oh man, I was so confused on how when I took a sample after massively increasing almost everything for sampling it only doubled, then I realized I had sack prayer on

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panicked a bit wondering wtf do you need to do to hit 1b before realizing

paper sail
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That's why I had to start recording everything in a spreadsheet

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Otherwise I'd spin for an hour trying to spot the difference

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Got some decent printer resets today at least

azure spindle
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damn a bit short still, went from 274m to 882m

paper sail
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Pretty solid increase still!

azure spindle
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yeah was hoping I had enough to hit 1b but still good, over triple

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think it's mainly just main stat increases now is what I need

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but it's enough that I can start hourly clicking mage 1 bubble

paper sail
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That's a good start toward increasing main stat Grumblo_Pray

azure spindle
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yeah I've been on hourly clicks for other 2 but didn't sample bleach last time since I wasn't hourly clicking then

paper sail
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Mage is Best doesn't increase Stable Jenius, but Severapurple does. Gets a lot of value!

fallen torrent
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2 days and my hocus pocus is at 1900 πŸ™‚

azure spindle
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yeah I have all the mage skill bubbles at 90% and have gotten all the w5 applicable equipment to boost, was why I went for resample hoping it'd get the 1b

paper sail
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Nice πŸ˜„ Just hit 1900 myself

lapis mesa
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finally got around to booking vmans cooking talent, just dropped cooking times by like 1/30th