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cards rubied?
i just buy ruby cardifiers 
if i haven't started the vman quest can i still start farming the 12mil mushroom kills? or do i have to do it once i claim the quet
believe there is one or two efficiencies left
theres a lot of afk% cards
I think the 300's are possible for pet arena, i didn't know someone else had it first. It's probably a ton of RNG. But 2147 is not possible
also you can get more stats from tools if they're not upgraded all the way, also vman talent
never seen one of these cogs before
has "super chow" been changed recently? it doesn't show as 0 anymore and it's not about Bloodbones anymore?
I emerge from w1 finally ๐
then go to w2 chat^^
on all chars?
Not my most recent one
(Hes gonna be a neglected one until div done ๐)
marble takes longer^^
oh god 
4h per bar
man wtf
at least marble bars don't have a vial
yet... 
i'd prefer a bubble honestly
even if you cant atom it?^^
yes, because it still has a 15% to auto-level.
slow and steady wins the race
low crit
cant help it
slow af
cant help it
pots
huh?
speed pots
with slap bubble ms becomes dmg
nope
but then again....alchemy can fix all your probs^^
yeah, currently working on hammer hammer
idk what level should i stop on
why hammer hammer at this point?
low production for sample bubble
Need.. that.. 1B... sample
Been there done that
mp snapping and all
bubbles are pretty much atom only except severapurple
so i keep lvling that one
you still could switch out those wis obols
for?
chopping?
its not like i got more
i meant thisv
personal is stacked too
currently can't so working on hammer hamer
tree sleeper helps alot
for craft item bubbles...ALWAYS use coupons
wym item bubbles
which one again?
oh anvil items
once i get this
as soon as you can..
gotta hit that 100m first
whats your craft lvl?
i mean drax^^
bruh
not really a flex after a char hits 70
i forgot tbh
gotta check
archers are 70+ dunno about rest
can you craft coldseeker bullet?
oh except 3 chars all are 70+
in bulk?
coldseeker bullet is really good exp
70 -> 100 in a minute
if you got the mats it can bring you from 71 to 100+ in just a few minutes
@lost ledge not good advice but the way i broke 1b was to ruby alien logs 
i didn't candy it, mind you. just bought a ruby from the gem shop
low in spitfire thingy 4.3m and dust motes 8m
I can still ruby bleach
aliens give better efficiency than bleach
still 4k and nearly out of candy
dont bleach give more cards?
that was mostly the reason lol
closest near rubying
nono i bought the ruby cardifier from gem shop, i didn't candy it
i'm currently waiting till all my chars hit 75 in lab then they go div and some fighting ig
w3 colo runs for slush obols and gems ๐
im dripping in slush obols 
oh well all of them hit 75, just forgot to check 
i should put my vman on maples tho...
can't ruby what i don't have 4 star. and I can't 4 star what i don't have 3 star
also guys btw, what's your god connections?
tiger on mostly vman ig, es on rabbit and bear
yup, exactly that
actually tiger is not on vman bc he doesn't sit in div
leveling lab and div?
no, he is afking other skills
i meant overall
sorry yes, everyone on goat is in lab
for the 75 lvl?
i'm almost at 1000 overall actually
then why?
for the extra +25% all skill xp
Gotta get that extra .1% more skill exp
bruh
what are your talent scores
did you forget to use the buff before you sampled?
including this one?
how many grass leafs you got?
with 10m you hit next power of 10 tier
dk at beans?
Doesnt that take kinda long?
not really fast but you get statues too
ive been doing that alot
and dont think I ever even hit 10m
yeah I think that is the best option for now
good ole dk on beans... sigh
but you get chopping statues too
omni?
dumbo can fly too....so its a bird^^
how many on omni?
All of them 
just gotta roll 80 more beans don't worry 
still 2 more chemicals to go....
if im lucky i can get a refinery lvl right after i got the last one
not abuse if it is working as intended 
not sure but not any that can be upgraded to 13 easily
can't wait for W6 when the new gods gonna give bonuses to the new skills and we mortals need to juggle our gods even more
would be abusable if it would work with candy too
Maybe bean slices
hopefully I get doot before that 
almost endgame 
you get bonus on redeemed statues depending on maxed vials number
from snake skin vial
almost endgame 
wow, honestly this would be a really good perk for non-dooters. like purrmep that you need a single link and get the bonus. I don't believe it will happen but I'd love to be proven wrong
must be following the bot 
I mainly just want more Omni links
Tierlist*
printer and refinery procs ๐ฅต
Anyone else's orb bug when fighting bloodbones?
I've got two guys in it and they carried me through most of my recent vials upgrades
You've got 2 orbs at the same time, both showing 31
Aye I'm aware
if you get enough CDR that can happen I guess
then it resets when the second orb is cast
I hope so 
optimal orb lvl is 267 if you have magic po box maxed
Were the spots for orb 267 with mana box or orb 300 no mana box? Wish I had that problem lol, the 300 lvl gets a good chunk more gains
Yeah, not a bug, just an un-friendly happening. If your current Orb has 15 seconds or less, and Orb comes off cooldown, it will be cast. This places a 2nd orb, sets both to 0. When the first Orb expires 15 seconds later, the 2nd / remaining orb will also get reset to 0 again.
orb overlapping and getting double the effect would be pretty nutto but it could like only count the highest one 
I just wish it didn't cast until the first one ended
Or at least shorter than 15sec overlap, cmon. Like 1-5 seconds is more than enough.
well, I really hope you're right because this is undoubtedly the most fun I have ever had playing idle games even tho all the issues we have so the longer it lives the better honestly 
I also hope that lava realises that the reason we are so critic about shit is because we do actually care about it. maybe we should communicate that better idk
but on the sea of negative comments it is hard to distinguish the naggers and those who do care ๐ค
yeah. I complain about stencyl a lot but o honestly am very impressed that he was able to build all of this on top of that engine. like almost out of this world impressive
maybe I'll try being a little more optimistic ๐ค
What is the best type of stat to buy a sailor of?
loot is the absolute best. if you're early speed doesn't hurt.
Alright
Loot is always good. Speed is situationally good.
Artifact Chance and Chest chance are both meh in comparison.
Cloud Speed is just a worse version of speed, generally considered the worst.
very high artifact chance can be useful. idk about chest chance and cloud speed is just really the worst
which one of these would be the fastest to greenstack as a ES?
I think Hams should be easier than the life pots. Not sure how they rate against Employment Statistics
what should I prioritize using my 90%+gilded stamp on?
the brick hungry stamp that o forgot the name?
Crystallin, Multitool, Golden Apple, Potion, Ladle, Golden Sixes tend to all be really resource-heavy
ofc not. lmao. printing resources for those
yeaaah, crystalin. that was the one I was thinking. will go with that and then keep the list for next time. Ty 
was supposed to use my discount before going all the way to 90% but college didn't let me 
Is there a set # of keys on world 4 and 5? like a cap of how many you get per day... I assume not but I don't know if theres a backend cap number
Added Potion too. It isn't AS important these days because of feasty onyx, but still good 
Does ES Wormhole actually work on Quest Items? I've never tried tbh, had most of my quests completed already before ES so no chance
was checking on my lab bound characters and when I went to get the sailing procs other characters flashed on as having the anvil full on ie
turns out that turning the stamps node off caused that
I was thinking the site was going crazy but when I reconnected the guy it went away
Ah, makes sense. You were losing a bunch of material cap from Matty Bag
Well, theoretical cap. The game doesn't truly calculate and give you anvil mats until you log into that character. IE/IT just try to calculate when you'd be full.
Yup
Might be #9s chance to shine
They got turned from lab bubo to ES and probably still have some quests available to gstack
Dk is better at some, as they can come from crystal
Go for it, my dms are always open
yeah. I was scared for a second of losing them but remembered that the calculation only happens on afk claim (that's why auto arm doesn't work like we'd think. the anvils are empty for the other toons)
whatever the script says
Does anyone happen to know the best spot for cloudsound followers? I just need 130k more and would love to have this quest done by the time I go to sleep-
Finally hit the 40k mark in pong. Not sure if I have the strengh of character to push mush further past this. Losing games to the lag spikes is really frustrating
Don't forget to green stack them
I can do that after W6 comes out, I just wanna get the stamps so the bot stops yelling at me about them-
Does the snail actually go all the way up to 120 (and beyond?) Asking because what the wiki says about the collider bonus. Also, what is the highest snail we have seen so far?

Looks like you have enough eyes to stop scp 173
25 is the current max on snail
is there anyway to level voidwalker faster lmao
412 to 425 is gonna take like 20hrs the way its going right now
That is what I assumed by counting the stars but ya never know lol. Has anyone been able to reach it?
More GT
Yeah, a few people have 25s I believe
sadge
Double Demon Genie + Moonmoon instead of Poops
card doubler dec13
๐
So, I guess the goal is to hit 25 and just spend any future mail on the odds in prep for the level increase?
Pop over to Crystal Island if you haven't cleared that out recently
oh this gave me a half a lvl nice
moonmoon is better than fly tho 
They only have 1 doubler, doesn't matter
ah
only bottom doubler.
@weak vector another 3M closer 
geez
I'll get there 
what's your efficiency at?
yeah that's about where mine was
but with 60 chop speed..
this was the last screenshot of my afk gains i took before i got the 1b sample
What's the best way to auto with bubo?
afk gains at 406%
woah
So thats not a problem per se 
whats your logs/hr?
just send a ss, you have a higher AFK gain and a higher efficiency than me so something might be off with your prowess?
I still don't understand. For getting artifcats, should I have a high or low minimum chest?
Depends on map. Usually, you want Gloves equipped, and 4 skills on your bar: CC > Raise Dead / Aura > Ghost. The order of Raise Dead and Aura changes per map, but they're usually within 10-15% of each other.
Prowess has been hitting cap for a while
Low, take off sb unending loot talent, claim as often as you can
thats the chop speed then I guess
cant wait for that nog
If you check more than like once a day, you want no filter and SB11 turned off.
i guess those two logs make all the difference 
okay so I figured. my chances are like 0,43% though
Yeah that's normal
Apparently 
That's standard, yeah. It'll keep going down too lol
Later ones a rough
i want the +25 max lvl talent one
Why gloves? Because of range? Won't no weapon work just as well?
Attack speed from weapon too
My problem is that he stands around doing nothing most of the time
And a tad more stats
DO i turn this off by resetting talents?
Unless it's not specced on ur other tab
Like circ said, Attack Speed matters. While you're waiting for your attack speed to be ready, you just stand still. You don't start moving to auto-attack the next enemy until your AS is ready.
That's usually an Attack Bar issue. You only have the 4 I listed and nothing else, right?
But he's standing around doing nothing because everyone is dead and he doesn't use raise the dead
Show your attack bar if u can
I've had an attack in a different page of the attack bar...
should be lookin something like this
Yep that'll do it lol
Gaps don't matter, no
Am I allowed to have the telekinetic storage in the bar?
Yeah that's fine, it doesn't auto-cast
Thanks guys! Now it's a lot smoother ๐

np
don't "np" like you did anything ๐คก
I have finally achieved greatness
Luckily it's just 3 hours I wasted with that messed up attack bar
Could be a lot worse ๐
I could see it worse because I've always quit autoing with my bubo because it always felt not worth it ๐
no poison?
The ghost already puts enough poison
Not necessary
Spookys make enough poison
so all it does is slow down your re-cast of revive
The dice skill got me for a long time. Forgot it was on bar3 until I woke up one morning to find 3 dice trophies in my inventory lmao
I also noticed that with poison I'm consistently getting worse cranium cooking time
ignore my deleted message... those were shiny pets not unlocked ๐
What do i do with sailing now?
Crank SB11 and relax 
which class is best for active death note grinding
I'm sending 1 to each island, the rest to final island. Level up ships periodically
AFK Kills should be faster in like 98% of scenarios. Bubo is usually best active if it is a decent map for them.
yeah was just looking to utilize my active for it for a little while to just supplement
If you still need Citringes, that's a great time to SB for Plunder kills
Certainly not the fastest but you'll want minimum 100k plunders anyway.

so if i have KPK nobi and multikill does that stack for active kills for deathnote or only the actual kills i get minus all those buffs?
All 3 always count for DN
(I'm sure you already know, but worth mentioning: KPK is very smol
)
i want all the boosts i can get trying for 100m skull on gmush and thought of trying to active with ES just to get some wormhole kills cause best place to get it right now until i decide to move to sandy pots with DK
only at 72m with most of them being on SB
I mean, when I click a chem it gives me 5 nugs instead of 4
Make all the boats better for when w6 launches
Most kills being on SB is quite standard lol
Its +25% amount not value
Got to 80k (need 100k for equinox)... Any more tips to improve CC?
also clicking on a tier 4 chem gives me 4 nugs instead of 3, so its really cool ๐ (considering if you get like 3 nugs from log) also when its supposed to be 2 nugs its 3, the only one that doesn't change is 1 nug, so it rounds to the closer number and prioritizes up on 50/50 or spaghetti code for 2 going to 3
yeah and as far as i know as long as i can keep wormhole up and keep killing mobs out of it no matter where i go is fine or should i actually farm a mob that is worth farming like stashes for the combs for bob bubble even if i can't kill all the mobs spawning out of the wormhole?
Is bibo or dk better for hitting 1m mobs for voidwalker?
Level up the bubble, level up post office for alchemy boxes, use books on cranium and tentacle (minimum 200), level up aura / poison to one shot enemies, use strikers (boxing gloves upgrade) instead of a wand to force more movement
Let PO boxes go beyond 400 plx haha
Active ES should always be targeting specific loot, imo. Otherwise, active time is better spent on other classes.
Good ES targets would be Recipes, stamps, cards, any unique drops not from Crystals. After that, mix in early monster mat Vials, Stamps (Glass Shards!).
myrad box is already enough pls no
Btw. gloves here mean "The Stingers", right? Or am I missing some better gloves that work for a bubo?
ah so like the gloves from sluggma
Yeah, Stingers. Slightly better than Boxing gloves
W6 short range wand for Bubo 
It says their speed is medium, but staff is quick?
It's about proximity
The short range is the desire
ahhh, so it spreads the aura
Nah, remove the beginner restriction on all fists 
You want your bubo to run around as much as possible so the aura covers more area
would it be worth taking all my chars out to skill for total lvl 500 in all skills?
Yep. Gotta be in melee range of an enemy to cast Aura, so gloves work better than wand due to the range.
whats your bubble at?
i maintain that spear looks cooler
Either fists for everyone or fix aura so the trigger radius is based on the amount of auras you have
Depending how much you slacked, you can usually candy to 50 very easily
only skilled on main skills
Do you do it manually or auto? When I do it manually I get around 334k on Citringes
let scythe be all class equipable cause it is cool looking 
Based
If you have doot getting 50 on all skills is stupid easy with the red pearls
137
what's your dmg?
lvl 50 may even be a case of jsut using a single 1 hour candy, i neglected several skills for ages and got a waterfall of level ups when i finally pushed them
Bubo damage? I don't remember the damage with the wand. Something around 500B
oh i have 500M hahahahha
Thatโll do it
That's about what I had when I got the 100k seconds. Just use one of the good maps
easy enough my bubo caps out at like 200m and i can do oranges easily to 120k seconds every 10-15 mins
Being able to 1 tick mobs with both aura and gas is the biggest barrier to CC
With oranges, if you have a wide enough aura, you can go entirely without gas
i guess I'm doing something wrong?
yep, that and lvl 200 tentcyle
Then itโs having gas and aura booked to their highest possible levels (ideally the max, which is realistically 305+ for most people)
And 3s tent of course
I doubt most people have 305.. Rift Slug still decently rare
you should be able to do it at cans at much lower dmg
Having aura fill an entire platform is huge, which you can only really do with aura 300+
hitting that 210 breakpoint with aura is beautiful because you get so much more space
Turn off auto, spam respawn, and put the aura so it covers about 1/3 of the area for oranges. The aura should last long enough that you can keep all 3 up continuously.
Itโs still a realistic goal, though not if your f2p
you should be able to do it on auto though
You can, definitely. But if you are pushing for the 100k mark and coming just barely short, every bit helps
i usually start off the CC chain with manually running from side to side on oranges to get a slightly better start to the CC train
607 is nowhere close to stagnating Cookin Roadkill bubble. Come back at 3-4k
I've got them at 308 ๐
Specifically for getting the equinox challenge doing prep manually isnโt a bad idea, but yeah you want to be able to leave your bubo overnight with no supervision and still maximise your CC ideally
looks at his level ~100 bubble...
just stop talking
only 100k cc for equinox right
Yes
cool
your insecurity is showing
Lmao what
You're spreading bad advice.
if we are giving views, i would quite like scoli to keep talking
to me
fair enough
Stop spreading bad advice then.
woot finally got all my mage skill bubbles to 90%
hi scoli ๐
Any tips on the log in gaming? Just unlocked it and don't wanna waste it lol
cant waste it, just click
CC bubble can kinda be hourly clicked so not much reason to stop it, unless if like at 95% or 99% of max, or perpetual clicks
Kinda can waste it if you have nugget ready to click
Click the *, not the skull ๐
there's no strategy then?
Miss out on at least 1 more nug doing the log first in that scenario
according to scoli you shouldnt even be saying that up until you're at lv 3-4k
Completely random
can someone help me, who has a charachter that starts with the letter "P" by saying "1 star, game sucks!"
Just flexing
yea=h, no strategy
log is just additional hours
oof aight thanks- lesgo then ๐
The bubble doesnโt 90% out at 600 does it? Unless it does him saying that stopping around 600 is bad advice isnโt exactly wrong
Alright even worse than talking shit TO me is lying and using my name. Stop.
Is there a list of the quest items that I should try and green stack?
yes on tips n tricks iirc
3k is 97.5% value, well within the 95-99% value that nin quoted. They're perfectly in the right.
could do all quest items that drop mobs, aside from some from npcs like the invitation from w1 tiki npc
He is so endgame
its w5, you are expected to slowly approach or is endgame
No need to be so passive aggressive about it, youโve interpreted it as flexing is all
Nah, they're intentionally here to pick fights with me because I roasted their IE too hard
Crying little kid
Noice
"Have you even looked at my bot?!" was the roast
Pretty sound advise if you were asking for help with your account tbh
Absolutely not. The roast was "Did you even try looking yourself?
Thanks. The ketchup, mustard, and dog bones is a good shout that I have to do for my 10th character I guess...
that acc bot that makes you progress on your acc 5x slower cuz its full of bad recomendation????

I recommended you use the bot for advice and called me a clown for saying to follow its advice
alch recomendation is like "hey, level up all alchemy bubbles to 70% capacity cuz it checked that u havent... and it will keep increasing as u level everything
you started by making fun of me saying that i FELT I was NEARING endgame, which you made into I'm endgame
Nobody wants your drama dude. Just stop.

when i ran that on my other acc at the end of w5 it told me i had to level my shaq to 40 otherwise i wouldnt be able to beat w4!
Well yeah, itโs a bot. Are you expecting some nuanced response from it or something?
ofc, if its a bot to help your acc
Hell, it saying that is usually more nuanced than we normally give people about alch 
u would indeed expect somethingdecent, not generic advice rright
No I would expect exactly generic device from a free tool
The human advise is โfix alch lolโ
u can code it to check only the spefic bubbles, cross reference with your hourly production rate vs bubble cost and reacommend realistic levels
"I roasted their IE too hard" proceeds to call me a kid, the hypocrisy
just math
have you seen any random endgame screenshot? it would even make most โmidgameโ players with 1T damage like
mine included
Ok cool, you make a bot that does that then and itโll be used in preference to the 1 that exists?
coding only to check bubble % and advice that as being good doenst rly make sense
it kinda started to escalate from here
Or write the change and submit a pull request to it if it is on GitHub
nah way before actually
other day
The entire point is showing that they're behind expectations for the specific bubbles I chose. Using their own production rates doesn't make sense.
I also remember you saying you actually were very soft with me, so now its 'roasted too hard'? doesnt add up
Endgame casually pumping out 500Q meme damage screenshots certainly help to make you feel very midgame
not to mention that some of them uses maxed fiber prayer and still has triple digit Qs
You can roast someone without going hard into it that pushes someoneโs buttons, thatโs not an oxymoron
Hell there was a screenshot a few days ago with their merit board record damage at 50QQ damage
Does cc bubble have diminishing result i spend like 20 mil on the bubble and didn't get much better of an increase
bet that star talent that shows increases stats off dmg to dummy is feeling pretty nice for them
I think Budda's is only like 5% increase. It's okay, but not great
Endgame by definition isnt necessarily being among the top but has more to do with actual new content fyi
Yes, very much so
most bubbles do have decay formula so yes, CC bubble included
both kinda goes together, being the top means usually means being ahead with new content, unless if it involves rng and/or time gate
where are you at in the bubble i feel like i get a couple more % every couple of clicks probably gonna stop when it takes 100+ clicks to get a % change
or at least in idleon
Your interpretation of endgame is that. Thatโs not generally the classification of endgame used in this discord
The use of it in this discord boils down to: if youโre not already in the group, you will not catch up to them
I'm like 50-60 and only getting like 57% i just got like 30+ levels only to get like 14% increase
Woah drama going on???
I gotta check this
What's the gist of it ๐ค
nothing much of substance
The gist is your mom
never stop 
Thats basically saying you use the traditional meaning, while we use it here different, and how does one know this?
Idle games also donโt have an โendโ so doesnโt hold up to the scrutiny of โhaving nothing to doโ
Damn
There is literally always something to do in idleon
Theres always something to do
Sorry for offending you kiddo ๐
is 3 the max amount of items we can produce in anvils?
though in idleon, at certain point things become trival with already 99% most of contents, eventually ppl will either atom quick slap or bob bubble
By being told youโre not endgame, nor are you aproaching it. You seem to have taken umbridge with the person that originally told you this though
and also return to beans for some reason
is hammer hammer bubble automatically applied?
Teleports behind you
seems like I have 3 running even though I dont have bubble equipped
do you have sheepie pet?
oh yeah
yeah thats why
Sheepie is amazing
its the bot
Ohh yeah bot roasts me all the time keeps me motivated fr
Use the bot scrub
I will still help roast w4 and w5 stuff
If the bot is roasting you you havenโt earned the right for a human roast
So long as you don't start calling me a clown and lying about my advice afterwards 

Why would anyone doo that
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
It's like asking for help and then getting mad when it's strongly worded lmao
I didnt ask for an IE review fyi
What I don't get the context
#endgame-gen-chat message bro acting like discord messages aren't kept
I aint talking to this kid anymore, not being able to reason with, grow up.
I demand we get to the message history review part of this drama
Yeeeeeeee here we go
Still no access ๐
#๐read-me
react
I don't think my main can get access probs need after clammie
u need to click
id:customize choose all
the peanut
Oh..
Where is Christmas event??
Cool
Both places work I think
At your moms house
Ok Iโm getting too excited, time to calm down a bit
I thought you're just a hater ๐ค
You left like 3/4 of the message out
"Sup guys, I feel like im nearing endgame and am not sure what to focus on right now, anyone care to go over an IE, just for general focus. I keep wondering if I'm missing something.."
no deep dive IE
...
I linked to your literal message. I didn't leave anything out.
Is it possible to unpublish an IE?
Just stop already man
Go to a lab and get studied ๐
Just got my snail to 20! So stoked!!
You can DM Sludger and ask them to do so for you. All manual
try english
Any encouragement?
Gotcha I was trying to click the IE mentioned earlier and it isn't loading
I'm sorry you don't understand basic sentences ๐
While saying 'get studied' 
Yeah I bumped it up maybe 10 times? I think my numbers were 21% to succeed and 18% of dropping if fail?
Nice, I just started my snail journey and I am terrified
Better to ignore this guy fr
Just trynna get a raise out of you
Finally
Be stuck with me sub 10 snail for 2 months 
yeah it's pretty terrifying...just make sure you have the salt upgrade from atoms
The funny part is that they have me blocked, yet keep responding. Which means they crave my attention so badly, they click "show blocked message" every time I type.
Got any tips for increasing samples? I have higher bubbles but worse samples ๐ฆ
Poor guy he must really want your approval ๐ญ
@paper sail sorry to interject in to the drama, but do you have an estimated timeline on w4/w5 stuff for the bot?
as soon as I say I will be bashed so I'm good ๐
oh no I did miss a clown fest. lemme catch up
Uhh bubbles,stamps most important Is royal sampler mob drop prints normally done by vman several guides on YouTube
the circus is growing I see 
Not atm, sorry ๐ฆ I just got through death note yesterday/this morning. Thinking I have 2 more sections in W3, then W4 starts.
I don't think I missed anything big but you'd better ask scoli just to be safe
Yeah he'll be objective 
Hmm I have all those checked off
cheers thanks. it has been helpful for me to get general guidelines on what I am missing. One question I have is what is the "Tier #" next to a lot of the statements?
@lost ledge end-game is when u finish rift 46/defeat kattle on vman nightmare mode, then u farm to infinite
Then ig it's a matter of increasing eff,kph i might be wrong tho
Like what am I meant to discern from that
so there is an actual definition?
thats mine
Aight ty, I have a decent amount of bubbles to 90-95 eff for sampling at least for chopping
No, that is braves interpretation
if u cant beat kattle on nightmare with vman, u are not at endgame sorry
Just a progression milestone. Tier 0 would mean you haven't completed any recommendations
That's my ๐
Better get them even higher ๐ช
(Altho I'm not qualified to say that)
@paper sail so from a prioritization perspective the lower the tier the more important?
i consider beating rift 46 (100B dmg required on average) the initial steps into endgame
The Pinchy Review at the top is the better place to look for priority ๐
Hourly clicking jungle logs makes my mind numb
then once u beat kattle nightmare with vman, u are at endgame, there isnt rly much going on after, just scaling (and now equinox i guess)
Woah I never knew that
Done all that
So this is saying take a look at my stamps then?
then u are definetly at endgame
We're in the same boat lmao
There is a difference between "100% completion of a game" and Finishing the standard content of the game aka entering the end part of it
watch ppl go batshit cause you said that
โEndgameโ and โend of the gameโ are 2 different things
Correct! Your stamps are the lowest according to the expectations I've set
Most incremental idle games have infinite scaling
Oh you said my message first in different words
kkkkkkkk
B b b ut you have to ruby all cards and get godshard per gspore kill!!!
@wide halo yeah I would assume you are further along than me. I started 1 month ago and just made it to w5 like two days ago. Lot to catch up on
Man so it's telling me my alchemy better than my stamps
My stamps must really suck then
that would be like 100% completion, all achievs, all content available cleared
I'm at early w3 so dw
I started 2 yrs ago...
Scaling to infinite dmg or samples unfortunately isnt part of it
2-3 i forgot
thats just lack of content so u keep scaling
couldnt agree more
Yeah I'm just making a bit of a goof towards people who think that way
Even equinox, it might seem like its an actual content, but its just a place to give rewards for achieving some stuff in the game
Ofc ppl who are at that point won't like hearing that
In generally when people refer to โendgamersโ in this discord theyโre talking about the point a group of people are currently at that you can never be a part of because the base of the ladder keeps moving
100 pickles 
yeah its like a meme
Luckily I never claimed such a thing
They are the people casually talking about having 500Q damage like it is another Tuesday
gtg
endgamers in this discord are the few people that have insane stats where u will never reach them D:
You said you were nearing endgame, which has the connotation or that group of people in this discord
thats possible?
Yo my sailing is becoming better with like no effort
looks like investing much into captain exp was a good choice
Regardless of whether you actually meant โthe end of the gameโ
nope. if you consider you're nearing endgame and you didn't even got one of the easiest mat vial you're just delusional
Thatโs why you got the general reaction you did (especially posting it in endgame chat)
I am not at endgame
I am the endgame
u dont wanna mess with endgame ppl chat!
I am endgame I've got to wurms 
they eat samples of 2B for lunch
is there a bubble for that
what do you invest on? stamps?
no sailing or captain exp bubble iirc, theres only one sailing exp vial or afk% chance bubble if related to alchemy
..talents
I had much of my stuff evenly separated into unending loot which kinda sucks tbh
There's a sailing speed bubble right
im so far away from wurms i only wanted to unlock to kruk so i can start unlocking his armor
oh that too, forgot
Don't call yourself an end gamer if you haven't maxed hampters smh
or pearlers
u are not endgame if u dont even have 10M stack of dreadlo bar
I'm endgame I unlocked all the vials 
im missing arcade ball vial
maybe in w8 if ES can make hampter drop like gmush 200 portal stacks
No endgamers without 1 t samples 
I'm endgame I get pissy when people say I'm not endgame 
w1 tutorial
Isn't end game beating Amarok? Everything else just extra content
I'm endgame o unlocked the last anvil tab 
Pretty sure it's stepping out of the town
people donning the full clown outfit. very fun
Hello I beat tutorial troll, endgame player here
Also anyone have an estimate on how long it takes to get 1 mil sb kills. Everyone should have roughly the same rates of plunderous mob kills right?
Finding the game exists is the endgame (real)
~2 months
Last I heard was 2-3 months
very long
Aw shiz
800 stamp levels 
Maybe I'll just do that so once w6 comes out I can actually play that
maybe we get yet another buff to plunderous mobs
2 days later I finish all my t4 tasks
Rip everyone who grinded it before vman
I have 140 plunder kills 
I don't even have sb fr
nearing endgame 
217k
I hate SB
Got 100 kills the day SB came out, never played that character actively again
Only got more because rift made me play it
What even is sb
But what about drop rate
Siege Breaker, the elite class of the bowman
...thanks
For his neutral special he wields a bow
10k pretty chill now
its like
a day? maybe less
Next month imma reach w4 ๐
It is worth grinding, yes
Thatโs a day I could do anything else with tho
like 10% extra multi dr tho
Last Christmas I gave my ie
..
This Christmas I'm still getting roasted ๐ญ
But did you learn? 
Yeah
Yeah you're right
Yeah you're right
What are the best chips to get for lab?
Choc chip
Killing crystal can spawn another crystal
Insane on bubo ๐
I got a choc chip from the gem shop, am I blessed?
aside from choc I guess
depends on where u at, but doubler r great
At least go up to platinum ๐ญ
Probs
I don't have a single chip or jewel yet
That guy is my fan
What decides minimal travel time for sailing-?i have seen it go down even tho it is only 4 minutes less
Stop capping ๐
SB Family bonus, couple (maybe only 1?) shiny pets
Oh that explains it than
Also is it worth it to get the msa totalizer?
Some bonuses are better than others, but overall yes it is worth getting
Should I be changing my breeding setup and cooking to try and get mats for productive nanochips?
The left and center 4 bonuses are good. The 2 on the right are pretty lulzy bad
Dang
I actually have to start upgrading my towers
Same 
I'll take that top right bonus if you don't want it ๐ ๐
Mine are level 5 on average.
Since salt issue
I wouldn't even notice if it quit working
I didn't even know you could get it that high-
Yup. Not even my highest, just what I happen to be on right now
Grind time bubble is monumentally easy to level with bubo which is 95% of that class exp rate
Yarp
Fair enough, I haven't hit that point with bubo yet sadly
Damn.
I could use this
The only requirement is to active bubo, the cost is water which bubo gives you in the 1000s
The number itself looks/feels better than its actual benefit lol
What your GT at scoli?
20.4k
Yeah my GT is at 4k and I have around 24x, so the scaling is quite apparent
๐
Trying to hit 10digit sample on logs. I sampled 596m at lvl 85 chopping. Leveled him up to 99 right under my vman and now Im only getting 550m sample. Didn't change anything else, just leveled him up...any ideas?
I'm still waiting on that spicy 200+ tenteye skill, stuck around 145 atm...
huge I need that..
Still has diminishing returns, and if bubo didnโt exist youโd probably stop trying to push GT at maybe like 7-10k when water costs are high
I mean, after some testing it is actually useful, as it rounds up
Is there an easy way to deal odd damage 8 times in a row?
like, anything above 1 nug will get at least +1
Worship
go do a worship/TD and auto attack 8 times
TRUEEEE
When you say right under, you you mean 1 level less or the same? Important distinction
I'm 7k hrs short of it lol
Vman must be at least 1 level above for hands to work
just get 7k hrs of candy lol
yep so bubo is 99 and vman is 100
I figured no way I'll need it cause I'll get a nug before I get enough candy
but haha
Hard to guess ๐ฆ Samples are the culmination of like every single system in the game. It is very easy to change 1 thing and forget / not realize
Do yk when trade offer changes in sailing
Is it every hour? ๐ค
4x per day, every 6 hours. I don't know the actual time of day
!minechart
#bot-commands
?
IT says 6/12/18/24, not sure if that is my local time or UTC
use bot commands in the bot command channel to not clog up the other channels
oh sorry
should be local time as mine is 8/14/20
I did that too so that's why I'm giving the heads up ๐คญ
can you bless my nuggies please? 
I've also seen your current nugget..
Aight
Mahito arc ๐
I was denied the blessing 
is this decent DR for the knuckles on ES active?
People have farmed it with much lower. More always helps, but yeah, 13x isn't terrible
Judging by your other stats itโs probably decent for your stage in the game
figured it out, when I leveled him I forgot to take food off, so it burnt through the logs and hot cocoa...
dont have the nullo salts to make it yet but i wanna be prepped because for some reason making magma gear is easier than troll just because of salts
oh nooooo
You candied away your event food? Noooooooo
Hopefully not your whole stash
phewww..had some on es
Does anyone have 2 BBs here? I made a 2nd BB and lost all of my SChows... how can i refund this trash... Is there a way to unbug the SChow count post 2nd BB?
gonna just put 1 on him for now on
elite swap to a DK
That's it (Well, or redo all Schows on the 2nd bb)
also i love your pfp as far as i can tell it is bulbasaur and chaotix mix
only the 2nd BB counts SChows
put 1 and turn off the refill. I'm always terrified of burning the event food
so either switch to DK or do it all again on 2nd BB
Love it, Cant go wrong with 3 DKs ๐
yep Bulbasaur + Maxxor. I'm huge into Chaotic
Thanks guys!
@paper sail you have my blessing, now go hit a 99% nug and top the LB
be the toppest topper there is 
brought me up to 763m -_- so close
almost there bud i believe
I'm maxed out on equinox upgrades so I was really hoping to get those extra dr levels today
I wish. A 100% nugget wouldn't even get me to top 10 lol
ooh I've been away for a while didn't know about the 2nd BB thing
My 2nd BB is pretty trash and I have a elite swap token from an event I think, now I'm thinking of swapping after doing the ladle equinox challenge
a 99% nug for me would be 1.1025bil 
I just want crumbs. 5m please

herus just coming in and blessing us with endgame talk...
Thatโs your next nugget pull, trust
thats werid buddha had 21QQ last i checked
Probably hasnโt updated his IE
yeah, it happens a lot, buddha's damage gets read wrong
its 28QQ nos 2822Q
oh i see its kinda crazy 28 QQ with QS at 10K ๐ฎ
I already banned them, should be gone now
โA little susโ is putting it mildly 
I mean, maybe he's in the same arena fight since breeding was released LMAO
Do we have any idea what the class situation will be with W6? Wondering if I should just use my swap token now
Been fighting since w2 launched
traditionally a world releases without its classes - they're then added later down the line and provide buffs to the skills of that world
At least 1 of each elite is the only info
Your blessing sucks. Haven't even seen a 100k
W6 unlilely to have new classes tho
told you
W7 and 8 the most likely candidates
I will hit you with a stick if you start that argument again
wrong reply
sorry herus :p
Aaah k
LOL
screen moved up as I right clicked ๐
๐
fight
It's ceph who is being threatened ๐
idk man I think we gonna get 8 elite classes in w7
not really clear on the pic
๐คญ
why is CCD so boring?
Your words canโt harm me, I canโt read
ikr. i'm sus of one guy bc the pets he has for spices are all shit (no borgers, etc) so idk how he had good pets for wave 300
Inb4 dual classing
that sounds cool af
beastmaster/bloodberserker oof
the baldurs gate 3 crossover event we've all been waiting for
bubo/vman combo so you can equip better gloves
bg3? Man I was thinking old FF
Nah bubo with ES portal
everyone gonna be dual with DK for orb 
didn't people switch wizard/shaman at one point to get better talents?
orb + cons
Or bubo with DK orb
gonna dual BB for the extra fishing rod
everything with DK orb
Put bubo back to its rightful place as the only class you active on
every character is an SB until i reach 1M plunderous kills
DK/Bubo wouldn't work cause the CD redux would break orb
I'll take BM with bubo respawn
just spawn a new orb every 3 seconds nbd
there is no way he would allow bubo/Dk
just fix it and make it stackable 
hmm.... Bubo/SB...
Expanding on this. bubo/Vman would let tenteye reduce CD of printer
that would be broken
Manually take it off the bar after proc, ezpz
If anything, I'd expect it to be dual within their own restrictions lol. Like Blood Berserker / Death Bringer dualclass, not BB + any other tree
BB bubo for the tente procs ๐คญ
no. i want my bubo/sb to get thousands of plunderous kills
yeah of we ever get it gonna be two of the same base class but we can dream
Either way there's 19 character slots missing in the family. Should be +6 elite classes, then +12 super elites, then vman super elite
2k arena is plenty to ban on
noob moment
vman with tenteyecle for infinite printer
wrong person
I'm sure I deserved it
now someone get another r
Are there some obvious things I might be missing for getting skill xp on my Mman?
Skilled Dimwit prayer
I thought that reduces XP for Efficiency?
Skilled dimwit prayer will be an exp gain until 100% eff
afk% prayer is more exp
Efficiency up to 100% gives more EXP though
Bubo with es goated ๐
though with only 30k efficiency, you're basically looking for "more everything" at this stage
It sounds counterintuitive but ๐ก
Eh might be but portal plus poison plus respawn goes crazy
using this right now
Become endgame with this 1 easy trick
the slow speed is gonna be hurting you more than the mining power gains you
That efficiency is garbage for the loss of mining power and speed
So use the Plat pickaxe then?
yup
cheers thanks
same is true for the chopping axe, I can see that ๐
The later pickaxes all give mining efficiency as a misc that is way better than pop axe
up until like starfire takes over
much better
now just get efficiency
yeah how do I do that on the mman?
spend a couple of candies and you're good to go
stamps and alch are the easy wya
way
Don't forget meals either, there are some good ones for skill efficiency
Speed up to 62/min, as well as 300% multi-ore chance from the big bubble too 
All comes together for sweet, sweet gains
if only there was like some sort of place you could go to see what you should do to progress... like a bot or something
@barren otter you said Acorns to Speed after 5x bit gain, right?
I know
kick a man while he's down, will ya?
You've failed more nuggets than I've ever rolled lmao

Can't believe you still have a straight back with the weight of the world on you
Jealous
Make it happen 

Anyone else just so done with gaming they let their board fill up with 20 chemicals..... 3 t6?
I go through angry phases with gaming
Currently I'm annoyed at it because I got another shitty nugg increase yesterday
I did that like thrice, but I click them once a week or so
I'll still taking gaming over Cog clicking.. for now
which one unlocks the ping pong minigame?
Gaming doesn't flashbang / whitescreen me once an hour like Cogs do
yea it just has this weird bug where when I click snail the number doesn't go up






