#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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feet are for walking and lewding. not measuring
We're indoctrinated when we're too young to question it
thus is the price of freedom 
Does that mean I'm free? I can go to sleep now? 
Beans 
I'm committing idleon crimes
Let them breathe my brother
im at beans too technically
I let my es farming mats for vials 
they must die for my prints
My current copper is 920m 

Beans out of all the mobs there is the most killed 
how many is that in FEET
Pretty sure that’s gmush tho
15 candies into bleach logs and i hate it 
Ew gmush
How the hell would you measure a quantity of items in feet 
Amount of copper that can fit in a cubic feet 
the same way you measure anything in feet. pure delusion
why u doing that?
You wouldn't measure it in meters either though
because i have no self respect
He wants wis bubble
no but meter is something to measure distance. feet ain't made to measure shit
Its made to measure distance
I know there very well little monke
A feet is a length measurement unit just like any other unit 1 foot is approximately 30cm
no it is made to walk or to lewd
I'll never accept this I'm sorry
@rugged token are u gonna do weekly colos basically?
F e e t 👁️🫦👁️
Then it's your problem not mine sorry my friend
aye. that's why I haven't asked you 🤭
i need to, it's a lot easier to farm gems from colo then hours of mindless chizoar grinding 
You're just jealous that Americans have the most flexible measurements in the world. We can measure in feet, bald eagles, football fields, and AR15's
Be like Contract and greenstack Chizoar keys
My discord crashed 
I enjoy the mindlessness of it. just hit the button. I do it while watching something or reading
too much feet 🤭
yeah i think my days of super grinding chizoar are over unless i use all of my colo tickets and need gems desperately
bald eagles at least make me laugh 🤭
Remember to wake Killroys bum ass up 
That one is a bit of a work in progress 😂
yeah i usually drag the window to the right half of my monitor since i don't have 2 setup on my pc and click the rerun 
yeah i think i'm up to +46 seconds now
should be able to do 2k killroy soonish if we get a good map for bubo
Woo just moved to 10mil street!! All thanks to world 2 and 3 3rd dungeon boss achievements XD
GGs
Oh we’re similar time
Gg you’re endgame now #endgame-gen-chat
Try 22 DR 
go to sleep your game will crash with inventory full of them
Then you come back and see 15 in ur inventory when u don’t want them
Just candy dreadlo smh
sadly i just get 2-3 lucky lad sometime 4-5 per night
i dont wanna waste candy
gettings some statues, im taking a lil break of monster vial
W6 wait is killing me
yeah i cant wait! to ahv a change of scenario xD
That's just me, but i prefer the colors of the new world
As opposed to the dark bg on w5
there are only beans
Did you know there is a portal to w6 just sitting in w5 Town?
It's greyed out tho 
I remember someone saying it led to a blank space
Full of nothingness
For now
Then make it look like this ez problem
they really want people to get that good money huh 100 billion mush kills
heh ya I'll take it too 😄
and I just got the ram the other day so I can candy to my heart's content and not worry about losing all the drops

not sure if he's changed/fixed that one but when it first dropped i completed that cloud with 1b gmush
I need that 
yeah, lava doesn't know how to use commas right, but that's ok with me!
more money still 
1b worked for me too, tho I hear it doesn't for some
Getting close 
just realized i had average strength potions on filter so i came back to beans
I was thinking this was what would count for 1B
Hmm to Candy gmush or to Candy some shrine levels+finish a set of magma for sampling
still need to craft 7.5m peanuts for gstack and i've only got like 6.5k golden peanuts so still more peanuts to craft after that but also saucy logfries/ironbites
GStack Golden Peanuts 
looooooooooooong way to go for my food gstacks 
I haven’t even started on them lol
1b peanuts for a gstack of gold peanuts
no thanks
might do like 500k-1m if i'm feeling really good about it but that's the most i'd do
Can’t even equip that many peanuts 
That’s what I’m saying smh
i know you can equip all of the bag increase stuff and equip then remove and keep them on, not sure what people are able to get up to but 1m~ doesn't seem out of the realm of reality
yea a good bit over
What’s ur mason jar stamp? 128?
yeah so that's the goal for golden peanuts then
124...
1.3-1.5m
should i prioritize platinum pop obols or dice obols for the family ?
Dice
still a shit ton of regular peanuts 
Pop are only left at silver
I went thro my hot dogs 2 days ago for more peanuts 
so for family it's silver pops and the rest is dice?
i'm not too sure why i was doing logfries now that you mentioned they aren't worth it, i guess i just was i had more then a million red pots in stash and crafted 700k
yea its 40M small life pots to greenstack logfries + the pots
Small life potions don’t come from Crystal carrot iirc
So you gotta afk ur chars at nuttos or some shit
in 50 mins of candying bleach logs, i got 50 levels in stable jenius... and also accelerated my arthritis by 5 years
yeah i'm pretty sure i got the large majority of mine from wood mush from looking at the drop table
50 levels or 50 clicks?
50 levels 
Smort
yeah idk why but some of my candies would give me like 300m-600m bleach logs
yeah, so it's an issue with click dragging loot. it likes to delete a lot of it for candying over inventory cap
it happens less if you only click/click drag one of the piles and not both after using the candy
i'm not certain that is exactly the issue though i just know last time i checked on it clicking once or just one of the stacks instead of click dragging both stacks reduced the amount that got deleted
i just know it's some sort of inventory/stacking overflow issue or the sort and doesn't like you attempting to put more into your inventory then can be put into it at once
it makes sense because I only get two piles of bleach logs and sometimes they stack on each other
do they ever stack on the portal though?
that's a major pain in the ass then if it does
i try to stand away from the portal so i dont misclick it xD
yeah, goodluck with the rest of your self torture session if you decide to continue it
it's actually not bad if i turn on rucksack 
might be worth it to get more clicks/hr
at the cost of some efficiency
that's a pretty good rate. more then i would have expected with the ruck sack penalty. i'd use a few candies and compare the QoL with efficiency of it
yeah i knew that just thought ruck sack would hurt it more
I need more eff
what is the best area for w2 staues with dk? sand? tyson?
Sand cus u get glass shards 
ah shit
yeah that's pretty good QoL for a few extra candies, especially if you're getting 100% of it now instead of losing a large portion of it on an indeterminate amount of them
What’re u gonna do? eat those steaks?
Make new stack!
sandy pots
damn youre right i shoulda done that before i switched to bubo
my monke fingers were too fast 
The pho place was closed 
They changed their closing days 
guess it's sleep for dinner 
@vagrant mountain dude i went to go see what my rates were with ruck sack on and it was like half as much as i remembered
sadge
thought there was no way but i didnt have hand on vman active lol
lol
nice
we come back after 200 gs
whats your carry cap with zerg and rucksack?
you click more then i do 
zerg prob not worth it
i'm a lazy gamer
def not
going to have to hit 1B without zerg
what do you need so much carry cap for?
to candy 1b mats for alchemy clicks
for degen behaviour
samesies
after i fill up my liquid, ima see how many clicks i can get in half an hour with rucksack
cant wait for active skilling to be a thing in w6
technically the fastest way would be to candy bleach logs 
please get out 
dang i did not know C was quick ref
ty
no
im gonna see where im at when i max equi symbols
just need a hotkey now for storage and deposit all 
I tried c for "codex" and found out
this game should have a lot of hotkeys for all the shit we need to do actually activs
would be huge qol if he let us bind our own hotkeys
oh damn, I just got my last cog slot
just pressed all the letters on my keyboard and found out Q is attack bar toggle
Yeah Q opens the attack bar and number keys use the attacks
lemme press 1,2,3,4,5 for quick depositing loot 
You dont actually need the bar open for that though. Number keys work any time
this was the best thing about maplestory. Could change every single keybind
it's 7 and 8 for me
oh right yea 7/8
we have this 
custom binding hotkeys is some "high level" gamedev shit so I highly doubt stencyl supports that easily enough for lava to bother with it.
having extra default hotkeys wouldn't be that hard but... lava 
i just need a dedicated bind for the "players" button
have y'all tried actually walking around with hotkeys? some maps doesn't even work like you can't walk at all
a lot of places don't too
many others are inacessible
a "actually walk with hotkeys" challenge account would be fucked
an anvil + deposit all one for candying 
just use bluestacks so you can assign keybinds to tap parts of the screen but you don't want to play the mobile version of the game so you will need to download remote desktop on bluestacks to control your actual computer that runs idleon
i walk with hotkeys to get close to random event bosses to press R
cause otherwise you cant even fucking hit them
I could make a keybind suggestions Masterlist so we can all get sad when it is ignored forever 
having Auto on also fucks with the wasd movement
Thats true for click to move too though
With auto on you can only select to move to specific platforms you cant move freely on your current one
you can do that with other tools easier
Can probably make a pretty simple overlay program for implementing extra hotkeys
and you just gave me some ideas
Can someone clarify shrine placement for me please? I think I have all shrine location based bonuses/upgrades, are all characters now contributing to shrines no matter what they are doing or where they are?
i like the idea of using your computer to control a phone that controls the computer that controls the phone that controls the computer 
I think you get the bonus anywhere, but you only contribute in the same world
the problem with using external tool for hotkeys tho is latency as the game may lag and thing may go awry so you need to add some delays and etc
but the beauty is that every action you make is repeated for eternity 
luckier lad trophy accomplished
if you have lab bonus lit up and the relic, you receive bonuses from shrines everywhere in the game, but only characters in the same world as the shrines will contribute to their level up time
BUT idk if that would also fall under the "no automation rule" that I was sure existed but I didn't find it now 🤔
I can barely get steam link to work half of the time. lmao
now imagine that problem intensified with every loop
that could just be solved with a 'use x amount of pens button/toggle' though
thats a great companion idea
Day 9010 of no recipe

I think you meant in front of
damn bro that is a crazy reaction
ive got crazier ones
i've been in the w3-w4 chat during golden monke hours, not sure how degen he is here
or in the metaverse maybe
im here nor there but everywhere all at once
for every human needs plumbing to survive
Any tips before I nuke candy on all this quest items
do a test with different stats on pendants etc but most likely mob respawn will be the best
Word yeah I found mob respawn keychain doing best
And just getting high afk and drop rate
yeah, other than that I don't know if there is anything else really
I think it’s like 300 hours for the first paining for goldrick idk if that’s any good
if you don't have the double trophy achievement that increases mob respawn too but idk how fast it is to work on that
What’s that?
I mean, that is 300h you get not farming that. it may not be optional but it still is good use of candy
the achievement for crafting the world mastery thropy while holding another one gives extra mob respawn
gaming bit multi has left the chat crying
My gaming bit multi is indeed sad
yeah, I hate that too but in the end 5% respawn is enough to make it worth I think
one day I'll do it
But gaming sucks eh
time to get my weekly molti 
I know the achievement bit multi is important
my brain can't function properly long enough to get the minigame achievements so i feel you on those ones
I got molti this week 
Your being told to farm more beans
and my fourth bean
Crazy how like even with all these dumb green stacks I’m gonna do no where near 200
Gonna need a lot of statues
w6 is night
i can get 36 more gstacks not including quest items and that'd put me up to 188
37 actually forgot about biggie hours hourglasses
I’m at 176 and I’m doing the 3 portraits now and gonna get frisbee and bone meal done eventually and I can craft the 7 boost items I guess that’s 188 too
i had less than you 5 weeks ago
and im less than a day from finishing now
Nice
%afk gain good keychain for which class/roleplayer?
so not the worst capping out 200 if you commit to it
just close enough for me to want to be crazy enough to do some quest items but i've already ruined a good few of my quest gstacks
Did you do ketchup and mustard or the rocks/bones
Oh I’m missing 2 leaves so yeah I guess I’d probs only need like 6 statues and then like 4 bars
So yeah that’s pretty doable
That’s why I’m doing time candy on the quest items for the bars
Oh yeah I forget the ice bucket def can do it
i used time candy on like 18 of the greenstacks lol
Might only need 4 statues
I used time candy on the W3 20k statues which felt stupider tbh lol
It’s up there
What do you do with the people youd normally have in the lab once you have doot
skilling, deathnote, gmush, whatever you need
Farm cards/rare drops/deathnote
the time used to farm gstacks on ES is lost time on farming more colo for candies to candy more gstacks
Pray on divinity if you don’t wanna check them often
Tl;dr ES bad
DK good
Whats colo?
pretty much gets worse the later into the game you get
coloseum
woo colo
doing more of my colo now 
at least it's less
then farming chizoar
This is dumb, but I am now confused. What does the skill one step ahead do lol I just noticed it
When World 6 launch? any date?
gives more tab4 points for vmna
please sir can i have some spare change?
I have spent almost 2kh in candies farming w3 statues and don't regret it one second
idk what ill use mine on tbh, probably just eclipses then unsure
maybe just ruby mobs and uhhh.... idk, can you candy in town for sake of doing nothing or is it only true afk time counted for that
does species epoch apply on everyone or just vman
i think you have to use the candy on fractal island itself, i could be/probably am wrong though
still a long way til i unlock said island so moot for now
candy making skill when
w8 when lava decides to make idleon 2
aka idle skilling 3
if idleone so good y no idletwo
yeah 
I am kind of curious what type of game he's going to make when he decides he's done with idleon
Idle Tower Defense
with rebirths 
Clash of Clans
havent played that in forever
I’ve never played it
Theres alot of time gate
it's time gate the game
played it for like 3 years or so when i was in high school, back when th9 or th10 was the max
Do ppl still play that game
yeah they like to get you with the 'everything is cheap and builds fast while you're a low level' then it's ramps up really quick and they offer deals on 'builder hut packs' to increase your building capabilities lol
yeah a lot of people still play CoC
Why can’t I link two gods to one character on idkleon
they've got battlepasses and hero skins now ducky 
Cuz only Elder Sorcerers believe in polytheism?
Could be wrong on that though
only Elemental Sorcerers can link to two gods through their polytheism skill, i believe you have to have them unlocked for you to be able to link to them still with the skill
how am i supposed to get 300 construction for this equinox dream lmao wtf
XP cogs, lots of them
im above 2k% exp, is that pretty good or still low
I mean it's twice what I'm at, but you want it as high as you can push it
directional exp cogs and the gem shop cogs with a properly set up board as well
holy shit I got a 96% captain today
no, scratch that. I wrote it wrong 
it's a 79% one tho
but it is artifact finding chance
not really but 79% arti find is kinda wild, I'd buy it
yeah. I could keep it while I get my artifacts up (for 5 years)
oh, but I don't mean actually 79% artifact chance. I mean 79% of the max possible
oh
still not bad
Where do you see the max?
or so does the wiki say
Fair enough lol
yeah. I think I'll get it
just looked at the max roll and doubled it
here it is if you're feeling extra lazy
today I've got a good haul overall. two substitutions and the wild artifact chance one
if I change the weight for artifact chance to be as high as speed that's what happens
I think I'll roll with that for now
started gaming with 10 chems...i'm at 12 chems now 
yo guys im looking to start active farming on my bubo. hes currently level 164 and i deal 5mil damage max rn. should i do it and if so wheres the best spot if not what should i be aiming for before i start it
before you start, aim for 200+ level of the skill tenteyecle
i have it at level 160 rn
typically you'll farm the highest map you can 1 shot enemies with your ghosts fart cloud attack
best maps are wurms > oranges > floms > cans > mustaches, but at sub 200 tent and low damage you should probably progress more before going hard on bubo
at level 200 the cooldown reduction goes from 2 seconds to 3, thats why that benchmark is important
ok thanks guys ill focus on my books for now and i guess ill also try get my damage up a bit more
Wow... that's some really in depth analysis for sailing... I just click on the captains and say 'go'... >.<
Does DR affect card drops, or would it be better to up my multikill for more chances?
Speaking of sailing. Is there a source for the trade offers for blobby g like we have for the chips? I'm kind of tired of upgrading my later boats just to have this guy offer a trade for the resource from the last 2 islands.
it does affect card drops
Idleon toolbox shows the next 3, other than that I'm not sure
if you're farming on ES then the extra damage is good for getting a higher portal count after your DR
They show way more than 3 .... thanks, that's whjat I have been looking for 😄
Fair, right now I'm using the 3 card drop chance cards I have, then have the rest filled out with DR cards
Oh snap, I didn't even think to look under that tab 
you can snapshot the card drop chance cards by putting them on and entering the map you want or reloading the map you want then swapping to a Drop rate/damage card set and keep the card drop rate
Wait, card drop chance isn't updated after the map is loaded?
that's why people snapshot hp/mp for samples and card drop chance for card farming
i like to make overengineered spreadsheets for shit so yeah. lmao
Tbh, this is the first I'm hearing of what snapshotting is lol
That's super helpful to know though, thank you!
yeah, it's kind of weird when you're first learning about it but the general concept is pretty easy to understand once you've done it once or twice
snapshotting used to be a bigger thing but lava took most of it away
i almost afked for the night at beans without my chocochip, glad i double checked...
yeah respawn% snapshotting would be mega busted now
i wish
people already get like 21m+ gmush/h wonder how much more it would be with respawn snapshotting 
lol i only get 3m
6 hours at pots with bubo, am i doing good?
I'm only getting like 27K-
idk
why Bubo instead of DK or even ES?
about 15 sec at last map of W5 am i doing good ?
Alright im gonna take this like a man and go cry myself to sleep in the shower
my DK and ES are not great atm, just got eldritch fury like 10 days ago
They should be lightyears ahead if you already have Eldritch Fury 🤔
he's living in the darkages they haven't invented lightyears for him yet
gonna try DK then
My ES gets about 90 glass shards per hour, DK gets.. I think just ~20 per hour
hmm, kk
@signal osprey the nice thing about resampling is you can squeeze some extra drop rate for colo2
forgot to do daily shopping 
The price of beans 
Little better. Wurms are back on the menu tonight. We got stamps to level
that was close.. almost completed employment stats quest but alt-f4'ed out and it was not saved 
I'm questioning life rn
how well does maestro money skill scale?
in half CC XD i so dont miss being broke
FINALLY. DONE
how long did that take you?
Could not even tell you
Just had to do it in bits
I fully expect a quality of life improvement to drop now in the next update
I told myself I would finish that before my next sample and I have currently made no progress 
new P.O. box drop next update for the new skills at least i assume
im doing the lazy way out and just farming pens while the atom changes them over to boxes for me right now
Only 10 more years to go 
just looked and my P.O. box could use a lot of help i think i have probably close to 2k boxes at max but i am not worried about that currently working on alchemy to get my samples up to as much as i can.
Now you remember to reset Mana PO BOX and have to reallocate them all again 
(on DK)
Reset Mana Box? Is that a thing?
Yeah from gem store I think
Yes, but only once you get near max talent book checkout
Oh I know you can do it. But apparently there is some reason to do it on DK?
With PO box you either want to stay on 267 Orb talent lvl (or once you can, to 310+)
But better off removing Mana PO if you can hit a 300 Orb talent lvl
If you have an above 267 orb talent with mana the timer overlaps and it resets your orb twice, once on new spawn and once when the old one runs out, essentially losing time.
Ahh, Ok, yeah I had seen something about that. Not a concern yet. Even still. Reallocating isn't near as bad as all the resetting on the orders.
Thats where the RSI gets you
without the mana box does the orb kill counter increase?
Well, yeh, that's the whole point 
it increases as you kill mobs but there is a point when the orb cooldown comes up faster than the orb goes away and that makes your orb setting restart back at 0 so you don't get "full" uptime or if you do then that way you can put those P.O. boxes to something else in the P.O.
10% cooldown reduction on Orb means you essentially have it less long since overlaps reset the counter.
Anyone have a fix for this? The w5 quest for quipping the scarf and getting the cape. When i equip the scarf, nothing happens.
For the Cape the char needs to drop the Cape from w5 boss, for scarf not a clue probably the same ( yh ik you need to craft it)
i got the cape part of it completed. I crafted the scarf and put it on and nothing happened
Did you drop the pendant?
did i drop the pendant? what do you mean?
ive changed zones, ive changed characters.
try resetting the account from 0 (don't)
Sorry meant scarf, equip then change
Either u have it off, enter zone then equip OR have it on, then enter the zone, forgot what it is.
Also CTRL+F "scarf" and you'll see a dozen ppl with similar thing
"the scarf equipped checks when you enter the map"
its called not using them and greenstacking them
keep going till you hit the interger limit and it resets back to 1 so you can brag how you used up your pens
how to get 100k ladles in one hour
You don’t
why would u need it in an hour lol
ah geez
convenience
??
there's an equinox bubble that requires you to use 100k ladles in one go, it would be very convenient to get 100k ladles in an hour for progression, and also just generally for pushing cooking to the max
It would clear another bubble? doing so quickly is good because progression?
I, uh, I don't understand why you're confused about how progressing faster would be more convenient
no because just using ladles normally would get you more gains for the most part
doing ladles normally doesn't clear equinox
i mean u do u lmao
That was a interesting read
I should snapshot my construction obols before i sleep
Would be a smart idea 😛
Resampling Sunday
lets see what i get
Does doot activate all minor link bonuses from gods?
yes, just remember to link purrmep
No it’s not, it just isn’t something that should be completed in an hour. And if you purely want better cooking ignoring the equinox challenge is much better for your cooking gains.
😮 I still can’t be bothered with sampling
i misclicked my sampling button so here i am
Increasing your ladle gain is good for both completing equinox and maximizing cooking gains, requesting how to do so "in an hour" could kind of be obviously seen as hyperbolic if there's no possible way to obtain that
break the integer limit do it
Ah I see
Might as well resample since I fucked up my samples
Nice pfp
ty ty
Yea it’s impossible to hit 100k ladles an hour
Lava please let us candy cooking
is... is it possible to do something to improve overall ladle gain? because I feel like if I outright say getting 100k in an hour is hyperbolic and I say getting more ladles is good maybe I just want more ladles in general
There are many things to improve your ladles per hour, the stamp is a good start and getting as much afk % is also a great way to get more
only thing you can really do is up that skill efficency as far as i know so afk there with BB and using some occasional ladels will actually get you there faster though i am no critic on when you should or shouldnt use them
alright thank y'all
I forget stamps so that's nice, I'm not sure where to use ladles to gain more ladles but presumably any meal increasing skill efficiency
Yep
Remember to also use as much efficiency gain from rings as possible
And obols, best if you can farm nightmare krunk
is there a specific breakpoint for stats when the opal rings (6% all stat) is better than the rex ring (8% all efficiency) or is it just kinda keep messing around and keep an eye on it till it goes down or is it until magma set/kruk set kinda deal?
fairly sure the eff rings always win out for the skills you can sample - you want to keep some opals at hand for snapshotting hp/mp for mining/chopping tho
got it i was just wondering cause i was watching videos on how to max your sample gains but i didnt understand why they kept swaping equipment around even though they explained it and snapshoting is something i need to do eventually since my current samples are without snapshotting
Was crystal countdown still bugged so you should only put one point in it?
no
so for the auto arm in world 3 i have the option for anvil production to go automatically into my chest but when i’ve logged into multiple players i notice there items haven’t gone in the chest is there a reason for this or am i missing something?
keyword is basic attacks so i personally believe it is really only good for bosses
even then it is more of a fringe case because you usually do enough dmg as a any mage
makes sense
whats the best bubble to upgrade for oak log samples for atoms? i get about 2k or so atoms a day but the later bubbles cost like 1.5k for 1 upgrade
have you tried out https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/
It only triggers once per day on ur reset
i personally always thought it was the afk gains one or efficiency based on mana but it could also be the first bubble since that scales linearly infinitely so...
@potent maple thanks. says i should do hocus choppus
Helpful on ES wormhole enemies and bosses. It does not proc on Glove attacks, only Wands
Can you explain this? How does sampling impact drop rate?
question about power orb for vman does it mean each character that is 50 lvls above 50 is contributing dmg to each other character or does it just mean that each character gets that dmg boost x times where x is the amount of levels over 200 they are
kinda lost at wht armor i should go for next for my players any recommendations the highest i have unlocked is diabolical and ik there’s a green set and blue set of armor but i’m not sure which one is the best to use for now
troll armor
!gear
personally i would avoid the green set alltogether unless you are trying to get all your slab
most cases bossarmors..otherwise...only craft for slab
Chizoar wings end game goal 
limited on keys and i have never seen a wing set drop from any boss i have fought on difficulty 3
How do I unlock the next post office upgrade tab?
I got the relic that gives an extra upgrade box, but I'm not seeing it in the post office
I know exp converter is considered useless, but I'm getting 10% of level in class EXP per skill level almost at level 500 and it certainly doesn't hurt.
You need to unlock the sixth order in the Post Office to see the new boxes
Oh, that might be a few weeks then, thank you!
which tier of bosses should i choose to farm gems?
normal
Does your class matter for that? I don't see a bonus to using ES or DK since their DR skills wouldn't have any effect in a boss arena, right?
vman technically has the most potential
most DR
but im just doing whatever id efficient
it wont matter for gems afaik
Fair enough, I'm gonna have to start farming out vman here before too much longer... Just waiting to unlock a few more gods before i work on that
he is also great for cards
not that its makes a big difference for hardcore gemfarming
but early game it might be usefull 🙂
its just rng, ive dropped 2 gems from bosses on my dk many times
ive dropped it on DK many times aswell
i think w6 is going to be tuned more towards late/endgamer stats than towards mid.
The equinox dreams are basically a requirement to get peoples' accounts to where they need to be.
i don't think it's a coincidence.
Once w6 drops, we'll still see people rush from w1 to w6, but the prevailing advice will then be 'go back and finish equinox', since it's essentially a roadmap for a lot of endgame stats.
what's unclear about that?
and how do you know this?
Iam at 1q dmg iam mid/endgame
and how do you know this is enough to finish w6?
I doubt he will go crazy with w6 cause early game players still need to do some damage in w6
W5 you could progress with just 20mil dmg
Now you have t-q damage
And endgamers doesnt matter they will finish w6 in few days anyways
I mean it's a solid guess
Dude he will not bring new world for endgamers cause 99% of players are midgame
im just saying you dont know
So w6 will be easy like all other worlds if you play w5 long enough
but we can hope
i would love it if you actually needed good dmg to do w6
holding back all the terrible rushed account a bit wouldnt hurt
Yea if he plans to take a break he can make w6 with big numbers to progress slow
w5 does that on its own right now though, just the scaling alone should hold people off
people zoom to w5 and then try to struggle through 500k portals with 4k kph
dont @ me like this
I feel called out
i imagine w6 will be the same since w5 will be nerfed like the rest of them were at new world launch
but it's still good/meta to rush to new world to start timegated stuff, but there are so many time gates on the way now (lab/div) that it'll be harder and harder to actually catch up
Yea good point but people who are like 6month into w5 should not have problem with w6
i think there will be big nerfs/catch up mechanisms at some point so new players don't get scared away
and yeah if you've been at wurms for a while already most of w6 won't be much of an issue, maybe crystals on the last mob lol
since early w5 people were getting wanpaned by crystal mobs lol
click those fmj bubbles lads
who needs catch up mechanics when you can just ban endgamers
food in mouth
Thats a point maybe not the damage will stop you but the defense that you die all the time.
Who needs defense when you got food
combat power has scaled pretty astronomically since the start of w5 though
and that's without qs memes
sailing had multiple large gains, eclipse (and even more with new world), equinox, general account progression, etc
cooking
Yea i dont know how he can balance it the damage numbers skyrocket so much
He said early w5 this world was all about gaining alot of damage
So maybe w6 wont give much damage boost anymore
drop rate world 
if we get three statues again i wonder what we get, w5 was 2 skill related ones and damage, w4 was two skill ones and money.
mk or dr?
Dr mk maybe afk time?
an afk statue would be insanely powerful

Opals + Best Scarf you can equip
Opals?
w5 introduced quite a bit of DR aswell tho
no
Yes, the green one
craft recipe to uppgrade opals
Chance to drop it 1-100b
i just want a new ring that doesn't require dungeon in w6
100%, when we get new rings thats what we're gonna see
buffs to dungeon drops aswell with nothing island
gonna build on dungeons for sure
@teal lynx for chizoar scarf should I grind normal chizoar or chaotic
Uhh I think normal has theoretical best chance
But with some drop rate it shouldn't be too bad getting it
My dr sucks
then work on DR not pushging w5
Then don't push W5 and work on that 
chance per key is probably normal, chance per sanity is higher difficulties
I don't really know how to fix my dr
Obols + Cards for the beginning
go back to #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 
Be quiet bech
but yeah obols and cards are generally the most important ones
you can go grind the sb talent for more dr for a bit too
reaper did you just recently get to W5?
i thought he was in w5 a long time ago 
Huh how
Then don't push W5 too much. Maybe the first 3 maps
Ok
Ok
constellations
maybe starsigns gets expanded in w6 since there's still room
Work on Divinity and 1 guy is gonna get all the stuff from earlier Worlds 
Up to Goat God -> Then you put everyone in Lab till you light up the whole lab
Bear god is very useful, but you also want moar gods
most worlds had their "Last" mob have 50x the health of the preiovus "Last" world (biggole moles, stilteds, so on)
(from 1.8k to 35k (~20x increase) then 35k to 350k (10x increase), then 350k to 20m (~57x increase) then from 20m to 900m (45x increase)
w1 to w2 is explainable as thats still the "tutorial", thus you dont need to be as punishing for forgetting some features / not getting some
w3 generally did not have many dmg boosters as much as skilling, probably to teach the players to focus not just on dmg and on seperate stats
I should also probably fix up my alchemy even more than I did
w4 released a lot of dmg bonuses (breeding, cooking, lab) which wont be done for a while and also a lot of skilling bonuses to warrant the increase that it gave
Early W5 you are not playing that much on your characters. You are stuck in Divinity for 2-3 Weeks and then u put most of your guys in Lab for a few weeks or even months - since you probably skipped Lab while going for W5
And after that you are still kinda forced to have 5 people in Lab at all times
would be interesting to have progression gated by something that isn't damage for w6 since we've spiked so hard in w4/w5
while w5 is generally just the "rounding up" world where you finish all your problems and get ready to enter the real game
maybe something like w3 
minimal dmg increase yet theres diffrent things keeping you back (def and accuracy in w3 for example)
color change damage soon kek
So I was thinking before with my void when I get to it should I make chizoar or wait for lustre then diabolical
accuracy would have to be insane, defense though would be a big gate for sure for a lot of people
Skip Lustre and Diabolic Armor
maybe lava will eventually add some new some sort of stat
Alr
something special in w6
You go Chiz -> Troll -> Magma/Divine Armor
Alr
w6 is probably gonna be either more dmg creep (Literally 3 worlds in a row at that point) or qol and focuses on the previous parts of the game to make them beter in some regards
You don't need armor if you have Alchemy + Food
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA
what would you focus guys first on these
i hope w6 needs atleast a few trillions sheetdmg to progress
nah forget the dmg requirement
based on what the 3 skills give probably
@teal lynx trust me my alchemy is screwed
Not me still rocking W1 boss armor
i just had an idea
unable to use healing food 
My samples are going up for some strange reason
ahah thats rough
watch everyone atom FMJ for a month
whats IE
Na i doubt he will do it cause he needs to make content for average player not endgamers
!ie
https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559
"average player" has tons of content pre w6
Xayayah u know how u said to use that tutorial
if you dont have decent stats you stil lgot loads of content
100k defense isnt even endgame 
thinking about all the current players that are waiting in w5 for w6 is gonna eventually bite him back once theres a sudden surge of players going from w5-w6 which didnt have the time to get way better between the release of worlds, thus going back to my point is that the damage increase is probably gonna be based on the bonuses from the world
Hey
I've mainly focused most of my players on farming bullfrog horns and the rest to focus on goldfish and forest wood to keep my refinery running should i stop my mman from doing this and instead do something else
Eh finishing w3 to get chizoar scarf
i know 
But i think like most in w5 have 5-6k def
Ye exactly bech knows how bad it is
same problem from w2-w3 basically
people struggled with def and accuracy as that was not the priority for the previous worlds
then you eventually forget about these 2 stats as you always have enoug
Yea
just keeping increasing damage each world isnt gonna be a fun way to design a game and going off that road to add a new goal other than "Funny new dmg colore!!"
You are working on everything. This is gonna take some while - do what you feel like doing :)
At the end you wanna have the Backtrack finished and do some Alchemy
Alchemy is not needed too much if you gonna finish stuff in World 1-3 for now. More damage is nice for multikill, but maybe getting more Dr first would benefit you more
Do it at your own pace and do what sounds most fun for you right now 
Ok ty
no reaper
What should I do
Shhhhhh
It's not that bad
Uh we'll print Is more of a skill thing how do I get my mman to focus on prints?
As far as ik I just login and use his ability

Bm and Vman are 2 peole that usually print mob mats
mman prints whatever really
till you hit vman and he prints just monster mats as thats his priority
it affectseveryone
not just mman
Yea ik I'm wondering how can I work on it
Like when I leave the game what should my mman be doing
if not first in all skills then skill in that skill to be first to majorly increase samples
otherwise grind cards and if not vman yet and are at w5 get level 150
Working towards Vman. Whatever he needs
And yeah as Bech said. First in all skills
cards are pretty major
What does first in all skills mean
He is the highest level in skills
So grinding all my lower levelled skills to the max?
Lets say your Vman is lvl 35 mining. Your warrior should never go past lvl 35
only 311 days till 100K stack
What why
Ehh
I'm not answering a W2 question for you
Just tell me which one I got the talents memorised
The lowest lvl skill which scales dmg that one?
Crab hands 
Hm i must think hard
Have you ever checked what mman does ?
quick q: is this typical when hunting for ancient/eldritch artes? im working on the talent book lv one atm and my odds even for ancient is only 0.07% (i have eldritch of the artefact find chance one already)
Its like his main purpose
Yes it can be even lower 
pog cant wait
Ohh those hand talents
.......i gotta get 90 in mining now?

My squire was mining for 2 yrs straight 💀
Candy your highest ore. Don't afk him for 900 days
If any of your other Chars is 89 yes
just make a new account
Nah
You can reach 90 minin relatively quickly with candy and dreadlo
So if my maestro is ahead in a certain skill it will give more exp and eff for that particular skill only right
Yes
And with a Vman Enhancment your Vman is also getting that bonus
you should probably grind for V-man before you go for the 90 mining so you can have the enhancement that makes his hands affect him as well
I really thought it was smart to abuse luck to get chiz scarf 💀
- your samples are gonna get bigger -> You don't need to mine anymore -> Your Vman will be ahead in skills forever
I'm like 40 levels away and need to survive w4 for that but alr ill try
Vman affects samples?
because of the hands
More efficiency = Better Samples
My stamp game has became a bit better btw..
thanks so much
random message passing by
Nooo :(
I thought we would finally hit an hour without any messages 
What's the fucking point of this shit
Rekt hahaha
I feel that, i got 10 beans myself
Its hands down the worst system in any game I've played
Least you got slug, but it looks like oyu dropped $$ on it too which would hurt
Let us get green gems for doing guild activities or add an npc who gives daily quests but this is just ridiculous and yeah...I bought both packs that had them and I think I bought 2 small bundles of them....not even close 😦
I still don't even have the ram and that would be so useful
Mate it should be blue gems in all honesty
Yeahh it's not as if we get hundreds of those a day so it's still fair.
I'm just so pissed, waiting a week to get another fucking sheep
it would lead to another roll or two per week with gems which is nice
anyway I dont think anyone would argue that its an unfair and annoying system
Yeah and that's reasonable, just give us a way to get them from grinding or something but nopeee
would be interesting to know how much money he gets from buying of green gems etc
i love waiting 1 week for getting bean the 100 time
That's almost half a budget mouse of clicks-
811k is like, days worth of cog clicking and trashing
assuming you made and trashed the cogs at a rate of 4 every second , thats almost 2.5 days of nonstop clicking
thats why i said 4 a second~ it takes less than a second to trash a cog
you dump a bunch of cogs out by clicking repeatedly, switch to trash, then trash a bunch of cogs in a row~ between 2-4 a second is resonable, so 2-4 days of cogs. Only cogs. More cogs.
Almost 😢
Just create copium. Farming MUST have a sheep farm that will give this a purpose in W6. Obviously
I must be doing something wrong, I'm getting 18.7 days worth of clicks-
If you trash a cog once every two seconds 19 days, but thats a really slow rate to trash cogs at~ i can flick on construction, go to cog tab, make 5 ulti cogs, then trash them all in the space of 4 seconds. Someone sitting on the cog screen, and using lesser cogs to do a whole batch of 18 at a time will be several times faster, at least.
once trash cogs on you dont even have to toggle it, just spam collect cog button, then spam click the cogs~
Well, assuming a consistent rate of 4 per second, it would still take 2.35 days of just clicking on cogs
2 min sessions with archer types and emptying anvil each time
Archers are a good way like mentioned. Also make sure you're leveling it up using a mage for the discounts.
i mean forge...not anvil...but anvil too
in w5 you should have all forge slots open btw
But also realize that there is a 300 percent cap to the bonus overall. And there are other sources that increase it as well. you may be approaching the cap already
You may not need to level it as much as you think
Man grinding stamps sucks 😔
cick on your skill lvl ...it will tell you how much multi chance you have
click
and dont forget to equip it unless you have the pet...dont know which one it was that made all big bubbles active alll the time
Sheepie
Are you not upgrading on mage class?
ye
Wait, how does upgrading bubbles on a mage help?
Sitting in one spot for a very long time is my favorite
@reef comet each base class, warrior, mage and archer have a bubble 2 that raises effect of the smaller bubbles of that color
and each color has a bubble that lowers mats needed to upgrade bubbles
which gets boosted by the bubble nr 2 when on correct class
Oooohhh, I never put it together those would effect each other, I feel dumb now lol
Yeah its pretty significant depending on the bubble levels. Really helps getting some into atom range
just as a side note...with that bubble you can lvl some bubbles you dont have mats to
at least some lvls
if a lvl 1 bubble needs 10 or so you can bring it to 4 with correct char and with coupon to 0
Sampling for people who haven't in a while means they can remove royal sampler. Which means when running colo2 when you can't have midas on you can remove all prayers for superbit to take affect
what's the foraging speed u want to reach in endgame?
What are the most important vials for dmg and print sampling?
shit I think I am stuck with my current onyx statue number. One guy still had the item to make the guy golden and I accidentally dropped it on the statue while freeing up place for stamp mats and it turned back to golden, the onyx statues stayed onyx though but now I got 20k spiral statues and yeah not working...
that sounds like a bug report. do you have any more onyx tools to drop?
wdym by foraging speed?
the spice speed at breeding
oh
would like to know how high it is for endgame players
because well mine is fcking bad lmao
nah sadly did the quest with everyone and threw them away already. yeah should probably do a bug report
so just as high as possible?
foraging speed gets irrelevant once you unlock all the foods tbh
most of your cooking speed comes from atoms and vman
kind of a shame this quest doesn't have a "reclaim item" button
@wide halo efficiency vials, and snowball if you don't already have 90% sampling with the prayer
oh well gtk ty
is there someone who managed to beat kattlekruk with VMAN?
Today is the day 
check pins there's a guide
yeah checked that too, kinda annoying but oh well at least I did the easy ones before
congrats on finding the dumbest thing I saw being overlooked by lava... until now
I hope it gets fixed soon
and maybe a PSA for other people that you can accidentally downgrade the statue guy
code makes sense... user error 
If(not gold and gold dropped then gold)
If(not onyx and onyx dropped then onyx)
Mutually exclusive loops
makes sense but it still is a overlook
just don't drop the normal sculpting tools from w1 
the real problem is i guess they aren't being associated as flags with 1's and 0's
probably. lava loves his incremental counters
like how the "do these things but in order" just have the order so it doesn't check for multiple things at the same time and it doesn't get to store more than one variable
which is absolutely 
oh look lava is on
hey lava don't smite me thanks
aaaand there he goes
You disgusted lava that bad
Whats the best class to start farming pop obols?
es
kk gonna do it on him when I'm getting this bitch ass multikill stamp
is there a statue guide on fastest way to get them all to make them onyx?
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Is there a specific build for gaining exp? Cards, chips, and stuff. My DK is 391 and I do not know the best balance between multi kill, damage, exp equip/cards and so on o.o
High level grind time and double your "active xp" cards if you can
yeah. play bubo for the grind time levels
https://fortsher.idleonefficiency.com/ I am farming statues right now. Soon all the power statues I need for everyone of my characters to have onyx
active exp cards are they own multiplier so they do increase a lot
why do you have 3k gems sitting in storage
how do i get shiny pets?
First one done 
do you have the shiny upgrade unlocked from breeding?
oh well i don't think so
do gems from bundles get automatically added to your account?
yeah
ok yeah thought so. In that case.... how does that guy have 3k gems in his storage
who?
fortsher
You can farm gems in game
yeah but he's not that far into w5
boss farming
Boss and colo farming
dude has 25 tickets
World doesn't really matter
and not that many keys either
he might be a huge whaler- seems to have all the premium stuff. if that's how he got the gems then fine 🤷♂️
i have a bigger problem with his storage than the gems
yeah his storage is like wtf
CLEAR YOUR STORAGE @fluid marlin
those helmets and other useless armor pieces trigger me through the sky
idk i feel like his levels in everything are too low for him to have actually farmed anything
like- he only has ~600 levels in PO box, so no way he got colo tickets from that
It really isn’t hard to get a lot of gems if your patient
the thing is
idc about the gems
but his overall account isn't very progressed
i mean look at his IE
If your farming 1 key Chizoar it’s easy
If you don't spend gems from quests, level up gifts, giants, etc it all adds up
pretty hard to do 1-key chizoar if you only get 1 key a day
he also has every sailing artifact except 2
There's otherways to get keys

