lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[vagrant mountain]

i swear

[paper sail]

I swap out CC for cannister so as to avoid the empty space

[tall horizon]

its where they keep orb, they're on the w6 beta that lets you talent swap.

[paper sail]

Is this better or worse?

[vagrant mountain]

orb on bubo sounds good at first until you realize it resets every 3 seconds

[rich epoch]

don't level tente

[tall horizon]

doesnt recast until buff is almost gone

so wouldnt matter

[vagrant mountain]

rash knows from experience

[tall horizon]

well like 15 seconds before?

[signal osprey]

Thats why 310+ is better than 267

It recasts with roughly 15 seconds left on remaining orb

[paper sail]

I thought it was only 5 seconds left. Is it really 15?

[signal osprey]

Not sure if its exactly 15 but its definitely longer than 5

If it were only 5 second that would make 280+ orb acceptable

[vagrant mountain]

so bubo with orb is still on the table

[old crane]

I can only hit 303ish, I should reset his talents to 267 and finish off the mana po box?

[signal osprey]

If you dont have points in mana box then 300 is the optimal level

[vagrant mountain]

[paper sail]

Less than 100 bottles for my worthless island

[eternal mantle]

Jhin

[pure ember]

I am 35 away from it

[modern plaza]

then we can dump all our bottles into rando!

[vagrant mountain]

i've already tried over 300 brews to unlock this next bubble, what's going on?

[rapid shale]

Rng

[sharp gust]

skill issue

[rapid shale]

Funny enough that is also the last w6 bubble I need

Just can’t active farm rn

[vagrant mountain]

reee

oh shit i got it

just gotta complain in disc

[rapid shale]

Lol

[vagrant mountain]

that's enough progress for one day

time to watch memes on youtube

[pure ember]

Currently 136/140

[slender sandal]

which helm for bubo, divine or magma? (i know magma is better for samples)

and for that do you then just keep all mages on magma for best oak?

or just go one of each and be bougie

[paper sail]

Magma generally gives more money, unless the slight bit of DR that divine helm gives would happen to put you over another money breakpoint

[slender sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/magma-austinpowers-drevil-gif-6170558

it is then

thanks

[sick sentinel]

I have both boots and helms for both reasons

[slender sandal]

that's future mela's goal until w6 gear shits on both options

[sick sentinel]

[vagrant mountain]

w6 gear

[sick sentinel]

Divine trophy got fucked over quick

[swift wharf]

Are you at the last bubble?

[vagrant mountain]

last w6 bubble

[swift wharf]

It’ll let you attempt new ones even if you have them all

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i got all bubbles unlocked for w6 now

[slender sandal]

can go all the way to w8 😄

[swift wharf]

Nice

[vagrant mountain]

sounds like a job for future me

[fast grail]

One thing I will say, is that I’m willing to cut some slack. But I’m not gonna let people with like 300+ multi tool on the boards. Don’t want too leaderboards to be filled exclusively with exploiters or have big blocks of exploiters above people who didn’t

[boreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-green-head-nod-head-bob-hyper-gif-13196772

[rough wasp]

Can’t wait for me to be bottom of the list

[vagrant mountain]

youre definitely gonnna be at the bottom of something after im done with you

[glacial venture]

sounds kinky

[eternal dove]

Kinky

[slender sandal]

[rough wasp]

He's gonna put me at the bottom of the oven

[eternal dove]

Dutch?

[stuck pasture]

Is slabe logsoul or slabe wisdom more important for log samples?

[empty ridge]

Dumb question, since I have doot there’s no reason to have a second ES right?

[lean dawn]

no

2nd ES still really good

[boreal sonnet]

2nd mman better

[sick sentinel]

Why is 2 bubos better?

[rapid shale]

2nd ES is nice because it provides a second chat with 2 links, but that’s not needed with doot

[sick sentinel]

2 bubonic isn't rly different from 1

[rapid shale]

Really @paper sail you think two ES is better?

[vagrant mountain]

2 bubos for easier lvl 500

[paper sail]

Absolutely. 2 ES is better, even with Doot.

[rapid shale]

Elaborate

I’ll concede to you any day 😉

[sick sentinel]

2 es gets more charge for worship and also multikill talent for afk fighting

[boreal sonnet]

Just go with 2 mman
It will either be really good for you or really bad for you

[paper sail]

There ya go. Exactly what circ said

The only benefit to 2nd Bubo is sharing lab exp.. that's it 🤷

[empty ridge]

Okay, thank you!

[rapid shale]

Good point lab is ez anyway

[boreal sonnet]

Printer goes brrr

https://tenor.com/view/xerox-fax-copy-bear-gif-26208469

[paper sail]

Yup. Lab just falls off a cliff too early to warrant a dedicated 2nd bubo in lab these days

[rapid shale]

I thought people like Bubo for more liquid stuff

[paper sail]

You can't active 2 characters at once though

[rapid shale]

More chars getting 2x xp in cauldron tho

[paper sail]

...but why though

[rapid shale]

Idk

[sick sentinel]

2 van can fuck your efficiency skills up, I think it's like the 2nd bb super chow thing. also the worry of soft locking future class content wince we don't know how that works

[rapid shale]

That was just my understanding.

[vagrant mountain]

since we're talking about it, if i class swap my bubo to ES and my ES to bubo, are there any weird class swap things i should be aware of other than having to book everything

[boreal sonnet]

Nah the only worry is future soft lock

[vagrant mountain]

future soft lock?

[boreal sonnet]

Efficiency isn't a problem

[sick sentinel]

Think I've seen rashaken say fam bonuses don't work right

[paper sail]

I feel like that is pre-w5 thinking when CC times of 60k were decent

[vagrant mountain]

damn, that was my plan for easy ES family bonus

[rapid shale]

Sounds good, didn’t mean to spread wrong info

[sick sentinel]

The efficiency boost doesn't matter?

For samples?

[boreal sonnet]

You mean from vman?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah

[boreal sonnet]

It matters a ton

[sick sentinel]

You have done me a confusion

[boreal sonnet]

The only "problem" with efficiency is that the eff hand bonus from mman is given by the latest created character on steam

So you would have to skill that guy up to highest instead

[sick sentinel]

Yeah that's what I meant, of course can be fixed fairly easily, just takes a bit of time

[boreal sonnet]

So the only "problem" would be potential soft-lock

But that doesn't matter when you got printer gainz

[vagrant mountain]

true

[rapid shale]

Still probably not a great idea at this point in time to make 2 vman

[vagrant mountain]

my 11th and 12th slots are vmen

[paper sail]

My expectation is w6 forces us to have 10 unique classes

Anyone with 4 warriors or multiple Vman will be screwed

[rapid shale]

I thought Lava said w6 won’t use classes

Naw he probably said no new classes

[sick sentinel]

We don't know rly, awkward conflicting/not the most clear graphics

[vagrant mountain]

i have a feeling we are getting 5th tab SB and ES... but just a feeling

[rapid shale]

No new tabs

[paper sail]

I would be immensely surprised if we get tab5 in w6

[boreal sonnet]

I calculate the odds of getting softlocked by having 2 vman is 0.01%

[rapid shale]

My professors would want you to show your work

[sick sentinel]

There will likely be a full class reset wventually because ppl fucked their accounts

[boreal sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[vagrant mountain]

that's what lava gems will be for

[pearl pebble]

happy turkey day bruhs

[pearl pebble]

fr?

[vagrant mountain]

happy turkey day my neighbor down south

[sick sentinel]

Speculation rn but it could be

[pearl pebble]

is dupe elite class like bad now

like 2 dk

[vagrant mountain]

no

[boreal sonnet]

Most likely if the game eventually requires only 1 of every class

[sick sentinel]

Yeah possibly

[boreal sonnet]

Or just more char slots

So 2 vman is super low risk super high reward

It would be the same as having 2 of any other class (almost )

[rapid shale]

I’d rather have the second ES for more log prints

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like we arent going to have more than 3 unique classes for each main class

[boreal sonnet]

What is the max skill talent level cap you can have nowdays on an mman

[vagrant mountain]

297?

[paper sail]

I still can't decide. The most obvious path looks like 12 tab4 elites plus Vman, but everything else points to us only getting 12 character slots not 13.

[signal osprey]

With equinox symbols vman should be able to do 308 I think

[vagrant mountain]

sugoi

[paper sail]

Unless Infinilyte lets us fill in whatever the missing class is somehow

[signal osprey]

Or even 309 technically if you have a gigachad 594 ES

[boreal sonnet]

297 or 309 is the same effect for printer brr

[vagrant mountain]

it makes a difference for speedruns

[pearl pebble]

in world 8 u unlock the pc simulator where u run multiple accounts, ez

[potent lily]

Guys in the tresure hunt 3 can i do it on my dk?

[rapid shale]

Archer

[vagrant mountain]

i feel cheated by your edit

[boreal sonnet]

You make an average of 26 hours of printer every day (in the long run) with 1 mman

[vagrant mountain]

@signal osprey do you know what the highest vman portal is with equinox symbols?

[rapid shale]

Do you have doot? cause I don’t and I really need the double links

[boreal sonnet]

I don't even have the game

[rapid shale]

Ok then

[boreal sonnet]

But yeah ES is the second best option if you don't have doot

[signal osprey]

Not sure really. I don't think many people have even maxed symbols tbh

[vagrant mountain]

fair enough, what was the highest vman portal before? 67?

[daring rapids]

I hate Gaming so much... Started with 2 chem plants 74 minutes ago...

[signal osprey]

I think so

[vagrant mountain]

maybe +2 portals

+60 more talent points

[signal osprey]

Now I gotta add speedrun to the list of shit I gotta do after symbols

[vagrant mountain]

[last vortex]

So what should I focus for building my towers?

[noble sable]

A friend of mine has 73 on speedrun...

A hidden talent player

[slender sandal]

cost reducer is really important, get that one going as often as possible, for actual td towers you'll want party/poisonic/kraken and eventually some in void (not as important as the first three). Also talent library so you can check out books more often (more higher/max talents)

nab some easy levels in shrines when you have the salts to do so

[vagrant mountain]

is it the same guy who has lvl 121 crescent shrine

[rapid shale]

No way that’s legit??

[noble sable]

lmao

[vagrant mountain]

it's as legit as this

[glacial venture]

there is an equinox for 15 chemicals @daring rapids

[signal osprey]

I wouldn't mind a 121 crescent shrine

[rapid shale]

I’ve got two of these so must be legit then

[slender sandal]

robert joseph pickleson vial o.o

[pure ember]

I got 50 without cheesing troll, and it's been several months since then

[signal osprey]

My favorite part of this is it being in the choccies map

[vagrant mountain]

where else would you spend millions of hours leveling up your shrines?

[old crane]

failed 77.9% on snail twice in a row trying to get to lvl 4 lol

[daring rapids]

did that alrdy, Im just trying to finish up my gaming and clean it up and it keeps proccing more logs and chems non-stop 😦

[barren otter]

wish that was me...

[vagrant mountain]

this is probably the most normal looking page on the IE

until you see it

[signal osprey]

Sick refinery stamp bro

[barren otter]

uh is it just refinery stamp?

[pure ember]

....do you realize how absurd lvl 85 refinery is?

[barren otter]

lol nothing else stands out

[barren otter]

of course

[pure ember]

^

[signal osprey]

84 stat graph is kinda nuts too

[barren otter]

I need 1.2mil to get to 70

[signal osprey]

Huh I figured 84 would be more than that tbh

[modern plaza]

holy shit gratz!

[vagrant mountain]

not me kek

[vagrant mountain]

the funniest thing is that the only thing holding him back wasnt the money, it was the mats

[modern plaza]

that must make fractal island a lot easier

[signal osprey]

Dang I thought my cash multi was getting kinda decent too

Always a bigger fish I suppose

[barren otter]

lmao wait

[pure ember]

Is it an alvin?

[barren otter]

that's alvins

[vagrant mountain]

yea

[modern plaza]

wtf how does one get that much mullah?

[potent lily]

Guys i cant do tresure hunt 4 every mafioso drops its drop oof

[pure ember]

5t gmush kills?

[signal osprey]

Alvin is a known cheater

[barren otter]

run it through scolis auto review

[vagrant mountain]

not by any legit means

[signal osprey]

5T wouldnt even be remotely close to enough

[pure ember]

1.5 quintillion

[signal osprey]

Add a few more zeroes

[pure ember]

Different number system

[barren otter]

Alvin is him

[vagrant mountain]

alvin is midgame confirmed

[signal osprey]

For reference I'm at 500b gmush and it would take me roughly 5-6 months for 1b godshard

[barren otter]

he has a base money drop multiplier

[signal osprey]

So you can do the math

[barren otter]

not some pleb gmush money multi

[pure ember]

Probably has 1m golden bread

[signal osprey]

If only gold bread worked

[barren otter]

probably the only player that golden bread works on

[pure ember]

Ikr?

[barren otter]

clearly he knows how

[zenith garden]

What pets for equinox pet battle?

[granite grove]

pea loot refill borger

[zenith garden]

ty

[vagrant mountain]

sounds like a secret menu item

[granite grove]

only available in few selected franchise

[sharp igloo]

So I uh, just spent 200 bottles on that star talent book on rando island...and then realized I already had that one

[rough wasp]

What holding him back

[vagrant mountain]

alchemy and stamps

[rough wasp]

good thing he has like 7593 catching

[sharp igloo]

So when you set traps, you wanna set 1 blob trap on each of your guys with vman, and then blobs for all of your traps on your vman, and then you set the rest of the traps for everyone on your BM right? I haven't reset traps in a long time, but I've raised my trapping bubbles a lot since then, so wasn't sure if I needed to reset them or not.

[pearl cedar]

Alvin

[signal osprey]

Having a blob on everyone only matters if you care about trapping levels still but aside from that yeah

Critter traps on BM and exp traps on vman

[sharp igloo]

Okay. It does snapshot your efficiency though right? Like I do need to reset them in order to get more critters from my increased efficiency?

Okay thanks

[vagrant mountain]

one more soul vial to go

[clear quartz]

oh dang, yeah i havent done a full reset in a hot minute and have improved trapping eff a bunch i feel

[sharp igloo]

Is there any point in raising trapping levels on non BM VMan other than just talent points?

[signal osprey]

Skill mastery

[pearl cedar]

Mastery

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah okay

[clear quartz]

course trapping already irritates me with how many dang critters there are to pick up, and sometimes autoloot will work with me and i can spam deposit, but sometimes it just refuses to do the thing an i have to do it manually for like 2 mins like a caveman

need more critter capacity 😦

[sharp igloo]

Don't they auto-deposit?

[pearl cedar]

If you are claiming afk gains on hunter before using eagle eye. You have to pick up the items from afk claim before using eagle eye

[clear quartz]

ahhhhh maybe thats what has been getting me then

the dang grandma gifts

[pearl cedar]

Yup otherwise you gotta click a bunch

[sharp igloo]

Wait mine just go straight to my chest. I never actually pick up critters. Are you supposed to manually pick them up?

[pure ember]

That's only for daily reset

[pearl cedar]

If you want actual gains in trapping you dont do 20 hr traps

[clear quartz]

the only time ive seen them go straight to chest is with daily reset yeah

[sharp igloo]

Lol I do 40 hour traps

[clear quartz]

i need to reset my traps to do 10hrs, im tired of the 3hr life

[vagrant mountain]

3hrs sounds like a sweaty time

[pearl cedar]

8 hr natures and 10 hr royals are usually recommended as best/easiest ratio to maintain

[clear quartz]

"almost" done with this one and then i can move on to something useful, like gooses or something

[pure ember]

I was doing 6 hr maintenance on a gacha game and it was brutal

[vagrant mountain]

i do 20 hr nature 10 hr royals

[pure ember]

I also did it for around 9 months

Didn't sleep more than 6 hrs a day

[pearl cedar]

But claiming 2 8 hr natures is better than 1 20 hr

[sharp igloo]

Id probaby forget to check every 10 hours lol, I dont wanna think about trapping 😅

[pure ember]

^

[clear quartz]

if i ever finish sailing ill have little reason to check as often as i do

[vagrant mountain]

but then i have to snapshot my construction obols more

[pearl cedar]

Are you not claiming once manually for the 10 hr royal?

[clear quartz]

usually do the 3hr since its roughly on par to when i fill up on chests as well and cycle througha ll my dudes to get lucky omni procs

[signal osprey]

You gotta snap em every hour anyway if you are doing omni

[clear quartz]

ive been doing okayish with my hourly clicks but feel like im still missing too many

[pearl cedar]

That's super sweaty might as well do 20 minute traps at that point lmao

[signal osprey]

Theres still a decent difference between con snaps every hour and con snaps every 20 minutes lol

[vagrant mountain]

i guess i gotta change my traps

[clear quartz]

20 mins would make me weep

[pearl cedar]

Fine do 1 hr traps

[clear quartz]

i cant even be bothered to do my gaming anymore lol

[sharp igloo]

How does con snapping work?

[vagrant mountain]

im not so active that i can get away with 1hr traps

[clear quartz]

go to second dk or whatever, look at cog tab, switch back to buildings, immediatley swap to main dude and dont look at cogs

[sick sentinel]

^that but have cons obols on afk warrior

[sharp igloo]

What does that do?

[clear quartz]

without snapshot

with

[sick sentinel]

But more simply have cons obols on afk warrior, then swap from them to active dk

[clear quartz]

on my bubo so still kinda butt, but ehh

[pearl cedar]

Feel like con snapshotting lost a little bit of its usefulness with equinox vials

[clear quartz]

im looking forward to playing dk again for sure

[pure ember]

The 150% build rate did that tbf

[sick sentinel]

It did a bit but if you snap family ones too it's still a big chunk

[clear quartz]

think im at like 120mil or somethin on him

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure the obols are in a different group

[sharp igloo]

Oh just so that you don't have to have con obols on your active dk?

[signal osprey]

I still get a huge difference in con exp with obols

[pearl cedar]

Oh con exp maybe, build rate just doesnt seem that big of a buff anymore

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i wanna say con obols give me 25% more build rate and exp

[clear quartz]

oh hmm

[signal osprey]

I mean my BR still goes up at least a solid 30% if not more

[clear quartz]

yeah didnt pay attention to any exp gains

[sick sentinel]

Yeah only need em on afk warrior for the snap, I do family cons obols too tho and those you need to have on map load then swap to drop rate/whatever

[pearl cedar]

Was it not more before equinox?

[clear quartz]

maybe i should get a family set too then

sounds a lil sweaty but if i swap to 10hr traps i wont be as irked doing it every 3 hours tahts for sure

[signal osprey]

I think a full family/personal snap was almost 50% iirc so maybe its less but I could also be remembering wrong

[vagrant mountain]

i was reluctant to but i'd say it's worth it

[sick sentinel]

I think it was sorta said before but as long as you don't open the cogs tab or refresh map the effect stays

[glacial venture]

reading about BR ..i will be happy when i can atom carpenter

[pure ember]

Fun psa to get your w6 shinies lvled up

Nows the time to do it

[sharp igloo]

So like say Im active on my bubo. I would wanna switch to my 2nd dk who has con obols, open construction from quick ref, then without going to cogs, switch to my main dk who doesnt have con obols, and then Ill get more building progress and xp?

[sick sentinel]

If ur active on bubo then you would swap from cons obol dk to bubo

The swap to other dk part is only for active dk

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay. If my main dk is afk and has con obols, could I not just swap from bubo to that dk, and then check con on him?

[sick sentinel]

I don't really snap cons to non dks tho

You don't need to check cons on the dk swap, it will calc even just opening that char

[sharp igloo]

But like if im switching to the dk anyway, I might as well just check it on him right?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah you can, I do sometimes open it and check cogs tab to confirm I get a build difference if I am too lazy to check obols lol

[sharp igloo]

Okay. Ive just kinda lazily kept con obols on my main dk lately since ive been activing bubo lately to push GT

[sick sentinel]

Basically just swap from the dk with obols to the char u are active on

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya thanks

[sick sentinel]

Gt grind is good

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I had been totally neglecting GT, not realizing you can get like 1000 levels a day lol

[vagrant mountain]

GT is overrated

my 8th lowest level bubble
edit: i meant my 8th highest level bubble lol

[sharp igloo]

Lol thats what mine was at the other day. Now its at 7300

[clear quartz]

whew

[signal osprey]

3k GT on nblb

[clear quartz]

im a huge slacker at keeping to click it, im considering turning the labnode back on just so i "waste" less of the water

[pearl cedar]

Nblb stops at 900, Yes?

[sharp igloo]

Wait really?

[pearl cedar]

Supposedly but don't think anyone has proven it one way or another

[sharp igloo]

Why would we think it stops at 900 if no one has 900 minimum bubbles?

[pearl cedar]

Hoping if I get all w1-3 Bubbles to 900 it will only proc on w4-5 bubbles

[pearl cedar]

Code diggers

[sharp igloo]

Ah

[vagrant mountain]

i cant wait for the potion that gives me +300 levels to all orange bubbles

[sick sentinel]

*companion

[clear quartz]

mmm pharmin

[sharp igloo]

Can someone explain what it means that quick slap is quadratic rather than linear lol? Im not good with math 😅

[vagrant mountain]

damn i remembered it wrong

[pearl cedar]

The more you level it the stronger it gets

[sharp igloo]

Like exponentially?

[pearl cedar]

Quadratically

[sharp igloo]

Whats the difference lol?

[vagrant mountain]

exponentially would be a lot crazier

[pearl cedar]

(0.01level^2 + 1.01level) formula

[sharp igloo]

Is level the level of your qs here?

[pearl cedar]

Yeah

[sharp igloo]

So for 1000 qs it would be 11,010? What does that mean though?

[pearl cedar]

Thats base with like 110% ms or something. With a 10k qs and 1k ms the dmg bonus is 36,404,004

[signal osprey]

That number is multiplied by the move speed part of the equation which is (ms-110)/25

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay. Thanks.

[vagrant mountain]

this is the formula from alchemy doc

[pearl cedar]

But you can see how it snowballs. A 1k qs is an 11k base dmg multiplier, a 10k qs is 1 mil multi

[sharp igloo]

Yeah thats crazy. Im definitely gonna start raising qs more lol

[pearl cedar]

So every 10x more qs you do is actually a 100x multi due to it being quadratic (level is squared)

Is not worth it if you have other stuff to do

There's nothing in game currently that cant be done without qs pushing

[sharp igloo]

I do have some other bubbles to do, but theyre all fairly decent. I kinda wanna just grind qs so I can multikill all the w6 mobs on launch

[rough wasp]

this pretty much tracks

[pearl cedar]

Well assuming w6 mobs will be multikillable with a few q. We realistically have no idea what the hp req is gonna be

[vagrant mountain]

we are gonna need new damage text if there are any damage buffs in w6

[pearl cedar]

Maybe we could guess based on previous worlds and current world

[sharp igloo]

Yeah. I only have like 10T damage rn though. Ill stop quick slap when I get to like 100T or maybe 1Q

[pearl cedar]

But I don't remember how strong w4 was before w5 launch

[halcyon sluice]

Well base mk only requires 2x of the mob health, so i doubt you won’t get any mk with high Ts

[slender sandal]

early mob hp shouldn't be too much of a jump up from base wurms if it's like w4 to w5

[pearl cedar]

I'm guessing a few Ts will get us mk for the first few mobs

[sharp igloo]

Are you basing that on current stilted seeker hp or what it was before w5 came out and they got nerfed?

[slender sandal]

if SS hp was a lot higher before this than they'd have more than suggmas at least and possibly maccies too

[pearl cedar]

Shouldnt really matter since w5 will likely get nerfed with w6 as well. But there was hard dmg creep in w5 so might have higher hp mobs to start with

[sharp igloo]

I honestly dont remember. I just assumed it got nerfed a lot since all worlds seem to get nerfed whenever a new one comes out

[slender sandal]

that's true too we've had a lot of major damage contributions in the game in w5

[glacial venture]

just remember...to not have hp prayers on in w6^^

[pearl cedar]

But Lava nerfs previous worlds so new player can have an easy sense of progression. Since so much of our dmg came from months of atom clicking hard to tell what he will do

[halcyon sluice]

How many of these contributions are for early w5 tho? Usually the flow of the game is based on people who just finished the previous world, not on lategamers who had months to improve their accounts

[glacial venture]

i really hope we get a w6 chat channel

[sharp igloo]

Im sure we will

[glacial venture]

or we get lots more in channel of people who candied to w5

[pearl cedar]

Well even w5 there were very few if any people that were mk on later w5 mobs at the start

[sharp igloo]

He might combine w1-3 and w4-5 then add one for w6

[glacial venture]

since a new world usually means new players

[pearl cedar]

That'll be nice. People in w6 asking how to make a proper class for fighting

[paper summit]

how do you upgrade minor link bonuses for gods?

[glacial venture]

div lvl

[paper summit]

ty

[sharp igloo]

Big P bubble and div level

[halcyon sluice]

Now i have to ask for talent builds in w6 chat just for the luls

[sharp igloo]

Just hit em with the:

[glacial venture]

i candied my way to w6...what second char should i make?^^

[slender sandal]

the "why doesn't doot work for me i just got to w6" questions when they didn't even touch div kek

[vagrant mountain]

"how can i tell if my skilling prowess is uncapped from slush pet?"

"i wish i didnt miss the doot companion rotation"

[sharp igloo]

I just really hope golden stopwatches do something good in w6 lol

[glacial venture]

i wish we could buy 2 pickles per day

[slender sandal]

gonna grow our own pickles in w6

[sharp igloo]

Right lol? At this rate its gonna take like 30 years to green vial pickles

[glacial venture]

i still cant wait for my carpenter to be in atom range....

[sharp igloo]

Do you have nblb hitting it?

[glacial venture]

yes

[sharp igloo]

Whats it at?

[glacial venture]

191

[sharp igloo]

Oh so close

[rough wasp]

got another T6 plant

[glacial venture]

on around 40m mats on off char

[vagrant mountain]

tomorrow

[sharp igloo]

Yeah i think its 200 or 201 when it hits atom range

[slender sandal]

bob adjacent

[glacial venture]

atm using my atoms to keep carpenter in nblb range

[vagrant mountain]

i dont think its worth it since carpenter isnt that huge

[sharp igloo]

I honestly didnt notice as much of a build speed increase as I expected from atomming that. I got it to 400 something and im still not even at 300mil per hour. I think the big gains come from con mastery

[fast grail]

I too agree, FUCK grind time, i dont need it

[glacial venture]

300m on non warrior?

[sharp igloo]

No on DK lol

[glacial venture]

i got around 470 or so

but put 2nd dk on board today...so no clue atm

[sharp igloo]

I have 1000 bob and like lv 550 con. I think my skill mastery for con is just low. Im only getting a 15% build soeed bonus from that

[vagrant mountain]

build rate is a gift from bob

[rough wasp]

that with obols?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

im naked without the obols

[gentle furnace]

only personal or with fam too?

[vagrant mountain]

the whole family ofc

[rough wasp]

family ones are op

[gentle furnace]

i havent made for the fam

[rough wasp]

[vagrant mountain]

i didnt want to do it at first but it only took like 30 mins of farming obols

[signal osprey]

Con obols

[sharp igloo]

Does fmj completely stop adding defence once you reach your level cap, or does it continue to add a % increase and just stops adding the +1 base per level?

[signal osprey]

You still get the %

[sharp igloo]

Oh damn. Might have to go for 10k fmj then lmao 🤣

[signal osprey]

Eh 200 will be good enough for W6 lol

[vagrant mountain]

i just checked my FMJ,

777

where is my jackpot

[sharp igloo]

Lol Im at 1070 right now and can BARELY survive active bubo with both prayers on

[signal osprey]

You don't need both prayers though

Beefy is shit

[sharp igloo]

Yeah but in w6 they might help multikill

[signal osprey]

So let me get this straight

[patent hatch]

Fire alarm in my building

This is it boys

[vagrant mountain]

cant tell if im more disappointed in beefy for real or glitterbug

[slender sandal]

[signal osprey]

In order to get more damage you level a defense bubble to equip a damage prayer instead of leveling a damage bubble?

[vagrant mountain]

dont forget to take a video cuz the camera man never dies

[patent hatch]

Time to leave idleon running

So one of us will survive..

[vagrant mountain]

good man

[signal osprey]

Every level invested into fmj could go to a damage bubble instead and would net more damage than beefy will

[sharp igloo]

Lmfao yeah, maybe a lil dumb, but I like havin that defence

[rough wasp]

Quickslap

[dense crater]

Does this work even tho my bubo uses bear?

[rough wasp]

(I dont level quick slap)

[vagrant mountain]

just make sure he is on the very right

[signal osprey]

My quickslap is my only 1-15 bubble below 300

[dense crater]

Ok and if i have 2 bubos does it stack or nah?

[rough wasp]

I got it to 550

using vman prints then i realized i could just do caps

[sharp igloo]

It's more of a w6 prep thing than a current beefy thing lol

[vagrant mountain]

it doesnt stack but you can have one on the right for green tube and one on the left for purple tube

[signal osprey]

W6 is gonna be easy though

At least the surviving part anyway

[sharp igloo]

Idk lol regular wurms were killing me when I first got to them lol

[glacial venture]

if your dmg is in the bs its likely already easy

[dense crater]

Oh idc about lab xp i want it mainly for this

[glacial venture]

you could do w5 with low dmg already...like 3m or so

[vagrant mountain]

oh yeah it does not stack

[dense crater]

Sadge

[signal osprey]

Don't do that. If you have 3m damage then there's a lot of things you need to do and none of them are pushing W5

[glacial venture]

dmg in the ts will likely already be enough for last w6 map

[potent lily]

W6 is out?

[sharp igloo]

With multikill though?

[glacial venture]

nope...without

only a guess tho

but who knows what w6 will offer for bonus dmg

or if lava will give the last two gods their bonus

[sharp igloo]

My goal is to have enough damage to multikill the last w6 mob without any of the w6 damage boosts

[signal osprey]

I feel like that isn't going to take much tbh

[sharp igloo]

Im guessin like 100T-1Q

[vagrant mountain]

how fast did people finish w5 on release?

[slender sandal]

hopefully last map doesn't have some weird 6 layer dogshit layout

[autumn wasp]

yall think if these were kachow they be worth it?

[signal osprey]

Id imagine W5 only took a couple days at most for some people

[sharp igloo]

Yeah. It took me a few weeks, but I was not multikilling anything. Pretty sure a few people did it in like a week

[signal osprey]

At the very least with the absurd kph power creep we got in W5 I guarantee people will be at the end of W6 on day 1

[glacial venture]

depends on if you already did the questline with all 10 chars@autumn wasp

[signal osprey]

Unless lava actually does decide to balance W6 around strong players which i doubt

[vagrant mountain]

i have a feeling there's gonna be a lot more power in w6 because farming alone has 120 crops

[round rapids]

should i use kruk stoje for this

[glacial venture]

i wonder if we will get w5 breeding too

[autumn wasp]

i did but theres no other way to get them tho

[sharp igloo]

The problem is that with how timegated stuff is, it gets harder and harder to balance the game because the difference in power between new and old accounts just keeps getting larger and larger

[round rapids]

or W5 stone

[glacial venture]

1 or 2 fails and w5 were already better to use

[round rapids]

weapon power tho

imma try

[signal osprey]

Weapon power is one of the worst stats in the game

[vagrant mountain]

S> 6 att wg @@@@@@

[round rapids]

2 succeess 5 fails in 7 attemps lava you scammer

%67 chance ye sure

[signal osprey]

Even if you got 5 success that still would have been worse

Stats are way better than weapon power for damage

[round rapids]

well i cant xraft that again

[sharp igloo]

Weapon power was king in w2 lol

[round rapids]

no material

[glacial venture]

seems....you are chained again

[round rapids]

nah im going for magma

[vapid cove]

crafted a rex ring and got a +10 str bonus

[round rapids]

and w5 stone ot

[vapid cove]

I was confused until I remembered I was on my beast master

he got a lucky craft

[signal osprey]

Wait I forgot about that dumb bribe

I'm gonna need to make some big rex rings now

[vagrant mountain]

make one for me too

[sharp igloo]

Wait you can make rex rings that are better than opals?

[round rapids]

look at this skill issue loll

[rough wasp]

Rex rings are better for sampling

[signal osprey]

For skilling rex rings are always better than opals

[rough wasp]

even without the stat buff

They have a diff multiplier to their rings

[sharp igloo]

Oh i was thinking rex rings were those tenacity rings or whatever for a sec

[signal osprey]

I wonder what the odds are on the new bribe

Gotta know how painful a +12 wis/+1 slot rex will be

[ancient vine]

Wiki is your friend

[sharp igloo]

What does the 450 trash star talent give? I have 295 trash and im not sure if I should get the stamp for 300 or save for the book.

[autumn wasp]

isnt the stamp dr?

[ancient vine]

I would spend until i got all i need in garbage island

[autumn wasp]

nvm its stats

[sharp igloo]

The stamp is all stats i think. The dr one is 80 trash

[vagrant mountain]

all stats is from shimmer gamba

[ancient vine]

I should visita trash island

[autumn wasp]

the talent is pow 10 trash

[ancient vine]

Maybe i haven't go to that place 1 wee ago

[vagrant mountain]

pretty sure the expensive trash one is dmg(?) that scales off the amount of pow10 trash you have

[signal osprey]

Stat stamp is definitely better than the book

[rough wasp]

Heard book was ass

[autumn wasp]

same

[sharp igloo]

Okay ill get the stamp then

[ancient vine]

Yeah if It is pow 10that take you time to get lotta garbage

[sharp igloo]

Ive been gambling on the shimmer book for like 3 weeks and it feels bad lol

[vagrant mountain]

ive missed 3 weeks of shimmer cuz i keep forgetting to turn it in lol

[rough wasp]

I think Contract said it was actually like 1%? Unless I’m remembering wrong

[summer rampart]

How do yall unlock the 5th anvil tab? It says to me that it meed 800 something to unlock... but I don't have anything else to unlock...

[signal osprey]

Well it will vary a bit for everyone but I got roughly 1% when the talent says 5%

[sharp igloo]

800 what?

[rough wasp]

I’m just gonna level base stats and skill eff based off that

[signal osprey]

He probably means anvil tab 6

Its in game but can't be crafted yet

[summer rampart]

Ohhh, yeah, my bad LOL

Thx

[vagrant mountain]

[rough wasp]

[signal osprey]

Not sure where 800 came from though

[vagrant mountain]

im more confused than when he asked the question

[sharp igloo]

Lol typical Vorin man, can't read.

[summer rampart]

If you go to the merit shop unlocks... thats what I meant

[signal osprey]

Actually wait 800 is in the unlocks tab yeah

[ember oyster]

I REACHED W5

LETS GOOOOOOO

[signal osprey]

It was probably 999 as a default but you've done a few. Thats just a filler number

[vagrant mountain]

onee day

[signal osprey]

The real number will be added when the tab is released. Its lik the 9999 levels for characters

[summer rampart]

THIS is what I meant

[signal osprey]

Hopefully in W6

[summer rampart]

Yeah, makes sense

[ember oyster]

W6 will have anvil tab 6 obviously

[vagrant mountain]

maybe new merit in w3 too?

[signal osprey]

Well yeah but that doesn't mean it will have an unlock tab

W5 has an anvil tab with no unlock tab

[summer rampart]

True

[vagrant mountain]

ah shit

[sharp igloo]

I like how merit shop recipes just werent a thing in w5 lol. Like did lava just forget about those?

[signal osprey]

Shiny critter multi

[summer rampart]

Rip

[summer rampart]

I wish

[rough wasp]

noob

no wonder why im noob monkey was teaching me his ways

[pure ember]

Tbf there were only 7 slots in the ui....

[vagrant mountain]

cant fix skill issue

[signal osprey]

So what helmet were you using before kruk?

[sharp igloo]

Which UI?

[rough wasp]

i will follow Contract instead to become hardstuck midgame

[signal osprey]

Because efaunt was the DR helmet

[signal osprey]

Oh hell yeah

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

[sharp igloo]

All praise the high priest

[vagrant mountain]

oh actually i took that screenshot right after i upgraded

[rough wasp]

cant believe u still have that pic

[vagrant mountain]

gotta keep the memories alive

[signal osprey]

What about DK?

Hes the one who really needs the efaunt drip

[rough wasp]

😎

[signal osprey]

Holy fuck

[vagrant mountain]

[rough wasp]

he's goated and already at beaans LMAO

doot pet

[summer rampart]

How the heck?!?

[vagrant mountain]

this was around the time contract convinced me that beans were everything

[summer rampart]

I am bearly just getting to the millions in dmg.. how?!?

[fast grail]

Oh boy if you think that is a lot . .

[rough wasp]

dmg scales kinda fast ngl

[cyan bone]

What am I missing? Why you all in blue and purple gear only?

[rough wasp]

until a certain point then it slows back down

[sharp igloo]

Just scrolled through like 5000 pics to find my oldest idleon ss lol

[vagrant mountain]

this was before i had enough salt to craft troll for magma/kruk

[rough wasp]

look at that 2k accuracy 💪

[summer rampart]

Is it because of the mutikill bonuses? Or what? Idk how

[rough wasp]

i dont think he had MK then

[fast grail]

On the way to gmush damage cap

[rough wasp]

eclipses*

[signal osprey]

I wonder how low I could get my damage if I took looty curse and fibers on vman skilling page with no gear on

🤔

[rough wasp]

The last bubbles added a decent amount of dmg when i first got them

[summer rampart]

Ok

[fast grail]

Last bubbles on average doubled-trippled peoples damage on w5 release

[summer rampart]

:0

[slender sandal]

and then some of the sailing artifacts were turbo stonks too

for damage

[rough wasp]

that was me

[signal osprey]

Crystal steak

[slender sandal]

and then you triple them with eldritch

[rough wasp]

except wasnt on release

[sharp igloo]

I think that was when I killed Camorak for the first time lol. He needed like 2.1k acc and 50k damage

[rough wasp]

when i unlocked them

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1153494104035049552/image.png?ex=656e7499&is=655bff99&hm=0c4084a4f4251ce8f7aba8c1c5a434b131c04f513d5fbf984e94435e416d589c&

my 2 month ago

[slender sandal]

immediately getting like 100 levels in new bubbles from casual grinding/passing through stages on multiple characters is going to be funny too

[summer rampart]

They call me bubbles

[summer rampart]

Rift?

[rough wasp]

I found my 2 month ago BR

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1154138117310263388/image.png?ex=6570cc62&is=655e5762&hm=49b29e1db394273d38349eabd35bd9c3cf136309cdd1f1fdce24e65742921360&

[summer rampart]

Tf

[slender sandal]

i'm getting close to a funny number on GT bubble, can't wait for a +3 to ruin it at the last second

[signal osprey]

Yeah W6 alch is gonna be funny. Can't wait to see how many of the new bubbles I get to atom range in the first 2 hours of the update lol

[rough wasp]

now im almost 1B

[fast grail]

We gonna be zooming

[cyan bone]

Very nice

[fast grail]

We are monstrously prepared for w6 much much more than we were prepared for w5

[slender sandal]

real endgame is having w6 sigil done before launch

[rough wasp]

[sharp igloo]

Watch him just make w6 hard af lol

[slender sandal]

haha i'm winning

[signal osprey]

Real endgame is making an alt discord account and getting them in the server now so they don't have a sus join date when W6 has a new exploit you get banned for

[fast grail]

If he makes w6 hard for some of us, good luck to 99.5% of the rest of the community

[rough wasp]

doubt he will

[sharp igloo]

It would be funny though lol

[rough wasp]

50QQQ entry

[slender sandal]

i could possibly see one of the skills being fairly isolated from outside progress so old accounts don't waltz through it

[signal osprey]

Well yeah that was his whole goal with W5

[fast grail]

I mean, that was essetially w5

[pearl cedar]

I hope i can't mk first mob

[signal osprey]

Try to force endgame to not beat everything by adding pointless timegates

And that was shit so just don't do that again thanks

[pearl cedar]

Id rather timegates than rnggates

[sharp igloo]

He could just make w6 hard for lategame people and be okay with the fact that not everyone will get to rush through w6 immedietely.

[vagrant mountain]

there will be crazy dmg multipliers from farming, we gonna start using scientific notation

[rough wasp]

E87

[slender sandal]

another boss like kruk would be nice though, if there's another troll or efaunt then

[signal osprey]

The problem is that if its hard for late game then it doesn't mean "not everyone" rushes new content

[pearl cedar]

E32

[signal osprey]

Most people won't be able to touch it if its hard for late game

[pearl cedar]

Good

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'm for it personally but I know it won't happen

[vagrant mountain]

the tech will be to rush w6 to unlock farming so you can easily push 100Q dmg

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, but that would allow them to catch up on w1-w5 stuff, which is what they should be doing anyway

[rough wasp]

Pretty sure he's gonna make pretty easy though lmao

[pearl cedar]

Let us enjoy new world all By ourselves

[pearl cedar]

That's never been the Meta though lol

[rough wasp]

i havent clicked bob in days

[slender sandal]

i always put a couple atoms into bob

it's like the tithe

[pearl cedar]

Bob useless when we get w6 con buff

[rough wasp]

i had to click my skilling bubbles monkey

[signal osprey]

A world portal that needs to be built is something I didn't know I needed in my life

Burn the con deniers

[slender sandal]

idleon server wide portal that has to be built

[signal osprey]

Have fun in W5 forever nerds

[rough wasp]

ngl that would be pretty cool tho

[sharp igloo]

I mean it sort of is. Like all the advice given to everyone who rushes to w5 is always "go back to w1-w4 and do all the shit you skipped"

[worn sonnet]

It's a paper mache made out of the gem IOUs

[rough wasp]

Most people dont rush w5 tho

[vagrant mountain]

ready

[signal osprey]

[pearl cedar]

Yeah i mean the meta has always and will always be rush latest world for the easy bonuses and to start skills. Then go back and learn to play

[potent maple]

i think people get to w5 way before they're "ready" for it which i consider is rushing, so i think 98% of people rush w5 these days, why not? it's there, go for it

just that once you get there, be prepared to ALCHEMY 😄

[vagrant mountain]

i rushed w5 then went back to beans

[signal osprey]

Rushing a new world is objectively the best choice if you're able to do so

[potent maple]

i agree w contract

[signal osprey]

I just think that you shouldn't be able to do so

[slender sandal]

and since you have to so you can get started on time/rng gated skills asap it always will be

[potent maple]

i think of it as gated by portal sizes

[glacial venture]

best way to reduce rushing...remove food

[potent maple]

nothing wrong with rushing, just brace yourself for the cleanup afterwards

which bob?

[vagrant mountain]

viva la bob

[worn sonnet]

[glacial venture]

if we had that...id still be in w1

[rough wasp]

whens the last time u leveled bob

[vagrant mountain]

every night when i close my eyes

[formal swift]

Today

[signal osprey]

I do think skill level requirements and stuff would be a way better unlock for a new world

2.5b oak print is the new gatekeep for W6

[slender sandal]

all 50 of you have fun in w6 then kek

[pearl cedar]

Please dont make me resample before w6

[sharp igloo]

Yeah, but even if the mobs in w6 were hard for lategame players, everyone else could still push to w6, get access to the town skills, then chill in w5 till they were strong enough to kill the w6 mobs

[slender sandal]

might drive me to go slog through idleskilling for the trophy

[rough wasp]

me too

and i dont wanna play it

[signal osprey]

Nobody has even sampled that yet is the joke though lol

Although there are a few who could do it now

[rough wasp]

kinda annoying that a bis trophy i have to play his other game to get

[signal osprey]

Zelbs last was 2.49 so he just missed the cutoff

And thats current highest afaik

[pearl cedar]

Last afk screen was 3.1b

[mint remnant]

man feelsbad to lose 7 snail levels

[rough wasp]

I needa click more bubbles

[zealous niche]

Shouldn’t ever lose more than five

[rough wasp]

7

[sharp igloo]

How do you lose more than 5 snail levels at once?

[zealous niche]

Did you go over your atom limit?

[mint remnant]

mayhaps

[pearl cedar]

[potent maple]

i haven't unlocked atom limit myself but i'm hoping to soon

[signal osprey]

No sense comparing yourself to zelb. Hes not something us mortals can hope to compete with

[potent maple]

"useful"

[glacial venture]

you shouldnt lose more than 4 snail lvls...5 is already forgetting to buy atom upgrade^^

[rough wasp]

Comparing myself to u

jk thats herus' job

[fast grail]

Ok things are going much faster than i thought, thank you past for me setting things up wonderfully Hopefully release for sometime tomorrow

Side note, what is the max achieveable oak sample right now? Is 5B possible anytime soon?

[signal osprey]

Not even close

Zelb hits 2.8b if he samples now

[rough wasp]

I think my progress has been pretty solid so im ok with that

[signal osprey]

No W6 for you then

[vagrant mountain]

gotta remember to take off royal sampler if i sample again

[sharp igloo]

I kind of hate the artifact that raises samples everyday because now I feel like I can never resample lol

[pearl cedar]

This is a good thing

[vagrant mountain]

yeah im basically not resampling unless a new resource comes out

[pearl cedar]

Resampling should never be done

[fast grail]

At the current rate of max hourly clicks and beans, how long you think until 4b? like 6 months? or a year?

[pearl cedar]

My only regret is not removing the stupid equinox samples after getting the vials done

[vagrant mountain]

thats a great companion idea

[sharp igloo]

I mean it is good cause I hate resampling, but sometimes I just need a particular mat, and can't sample it without destroying all my other ones lol

[patent hatch]

World six will change the samples

[pearl cedar]

Not happening until a new bonus

[patent hatch]

Might be able to get 10b with farming

Or dancing!!!

[signal osprey]

Hard to say with how much stuff slows down but I would assume at least that long yeah. 4b won't happen until W6

[fast grail]

Ty gentleman

[signal osprey]

3b is probably possible but definitely not 4

[patent hatch]

Dance moves are unlocked which boosts efficiency from pure style

[pearl cedar]

Probably not hitting 3 from statue bonuses until w6 anyways

[sacred cave]

my moves are the hardest so they give multipliers

hopefully statues arent balanced twards onyx off the bat so lategamers can get even further above the casuals

[pearl cedar]

300 taking so long

[autumn wasp]

we will play a ddr minigame

[slender sandal]

the w3 statues

[vagrant mountain]

youre like 2-3 weeks away from mining statue

[sacred cave]

buddha do you know if the snake 0 cal vial can 4x your statues?

[signal osprey]

300 chopping/mining should only be about 2-3 weeks or so

[pearl cedar]

Well I have a gstack I could throw at them now🤷‍♂️

[sacred cave]

do it

[vagrant mountain]

ive been at beans for like 3 months straight now? ive lost all sense of t ime here tbh

[signal osprey]

I got 300 not too long ago so now I'm feeling nice and warmed up

Time to do some serious bean farming

[vagrant mountain]

that'll probably get you more than halfway actually

or maybe the whole way

[signal osprey]

Itll almost finish it

[sharp igloo]

Wait are you just holding them until your next mining sample for that +1 gstack lol?

[signal osprey]

Its like 14m statues or something for 300 with onyx depending on bubble level

[vagrant mountain]

does that include startue exp?

[signal osprey]

Thats the depending on bubble level part

Results may vary

[vagrant mountain]

oh

[pearl cedar]

I'm just keeping the gstacks cause I dont trust Lava not to require 250 gstacks for the next equinox

[signal osprey]

My bubble is 22.5%

[vagrant mountain]

[sharp igloo]

Fair lol.

[vagrant mountain]

what level is 22.5%?

[signal osprey]

540 iirc

Its 90% effect

[vagrant mountain]

damn maybe i coulda got an extra level or two

[signal osprey]

Thought about 95% but it barely did anything

When I checked the math on the statues needed for 350 getting the bubble to 95% only saved like 3m statues out of about 110m or so

So I figured 90% was good enough

[fast grail]

Anyone here half decent at any pixel art?

[rough wasp]

I just atomed mine to 90%

wel;l like 2 days ago

It'll save a bit of statues

[signal osprey]

Never done much pixel art but I can make a mean stick figure if I do say so myself

[fast grail]

I need an icon for the leaderboard website if anyone would like to volunteer

[slender sandal]

[fast grail]

just the favicon so its not the default, would be like 32x32

[vagrant mountain]

i cant create images but i can combine images

[sharp igloo]

Can you make pixel art by drawing something normally and then just scaling it down to a super tiny size in photoshop lol?

[fast grail]

I mean i guess technically yeah, just need a 32x32 image

[sharp igloo]

Of what?

[fast grail]

Of anything for idleon related i guess, anything that wont get me obliterated by lava

[signal osprey]

[sharp igloo]

But like what do you want the drawing to be of?

[signal osprey]

Tough crowd

[vagrant mountain]

i think biggie cheese has a lot of potential as a representative of the leaderboards

[fast grail]

No idea, could maybe do a ladder? lol unless someone else has an idea

[signal osprey]

And lava can't obliterate anything over biggie

[vagrant mountain]

if you cant find anyone, you can always use AI

[sharp igloo]

Could it be a merit trophy or a w2 boss trophy? We already have the art for those.

[fast grail]

oh actually that is a great idea

[reef comet]

Is there a cranium cooking gains guide? I know to max out tenteyecle, chemical warfare, and raise dead, but I'm not super sure where to go from there

[vagrant mountain]

jrohrer13 has a good video on youtube explaining bubo

just use glove instead of spear

[slender sandal]

The bubble is big too

And your mana/alch postbox if you haven't

[sharp igloo]

Do attack bar of: CC > raise dead >aura > fart. Use stingers (fist weapons) at wurms. Raise CC alchemy bubble as high as you can. Get liquid regen and cap as high as you can (equinox thing helps a lot with raising those if you active bubo with it) then raise alchemy regen stamps and arcade bonuses.

[slender sandal]

Aura is important too, every 35 levels is bigger aura so you can cover tons of ground with it

[sharp igloo]

Also raising your crystal chance and using choco chip with doubled genie and poop cards will cause a lot more crystals to spawn which will increase your number of kills per CC

[reef comet]

Thank you!
Why would you want to use fist weapons on wurms?

[sharp igloo]

Theyre faster than wands

[rough wasp]

It spreads aura better which is faster than poison ticks

[sharp igloo]

Only do it if you can 1 shot crystals with poison though

[reef comet]

I probably can't with my low 1.7 mil dmg on my bubo lol

[sharp igloo]

If you can 1 shot wurms but not crystals with poison while using fist weapons and don't have choco chip/doubling chips, it might be better to use fist weapons anyway, but if you can't 1 shot wurms with poison at all, then use a wand.

Also use speed potions. It helps you move around the map faster

[rough wasp]

There’s no way he’s doing Wurms with 2M dmg

I forgot their base hp tho

[sharp igloo]

I honestly dont know how much hp they have lol

[rough wasp]

But I think it was 800M sheet dmg for me to one shot poison

without prayers

[sharp igloo]

Oh lol 😅

[reef comet]

Wurm has 6M hp lol

[rough wasp]

the w5 Wurms? do t think they have 6M

[reef comet]

Oh- I was thinking W4-

[sharp igloo]

How much %damage does poison do?

[reef comet]

10%

[elfin cape]

W5 wurms have 64B HP

[sharp igloo]

Oh no, I meant the last w5 mob lol. If youre in w4, do CC at flombeiges

[rough wasp]

Floms or Sodacans whichever u can one shot

Prob soda cans for them tho tbh

[reef comet]

Can't even 1shot soda cans at this point, I might just have to come back to the idea in a few weeks

[elfin cape]

Back in my day we used to do CC in colo 👴

[sharp igloo]

Soda cans->floms->citringes->wurms

[sharp igloo]

Before raise dead that was definitely the move lol

[rough wasp]

Think below soda cans are staches but idk how worth it is to do that

[elfin cape]

Yeah, sticks > Staches > cans

If you can't kill cans

[reef comet]

Do further mobs give better gains..?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah

[elfin cape]

Yeah

[reef comet]

Ooohhh, makes sense why earlier mobs wouldn't be the go to then

[elfin cape]

When you have 200+ talent levels, you can get 250K+ seconds per CC easily at citringes

[sharp igloo]

They also just give way more xp and money. Even if you can get a slightly higher CC bonus at a lower one, its usually worth it to go to a higher one for the cash and levels

[elfin cape]

But early on, big gainz are when one shotting cans

[rough wasp]

I wonder how much worse citringes are for me than wurms

[elfin cape]

And eventually, when you can kill/survive wurms, that's the huge gainz

Easy 300K+ seconds

[rough wasp]

Remember to level the CC bubble

[reef comet]

Dang, my max skill level is only around 145 atm

[elfin cape]

It's fine, just keep working towards it

200 level is when bubo really starts to shine

[rough wasp]

It’s pretty much wait for the artifact

artifact very op

[elfin cape]

And remember to spam books if you don't have the 1000 books achievement

[rough wasp]

what lv is ur cooking roadkill bubble tho

[sharp igloo]

I would probably active DK over bubo until you get 200 tentacleye, but hard to say. Kinda depends on what you need right now.

[scenic locust]

mfw I realize that the reason I was having difficulty on my current rift is because I had midas minded and jawbreaker prayers on

[rough wasp]

I remember asking someone about their 0-20 and it was like 3 days for 0-20 forgot how long they get early on

[elfin cape]

I'd say that too, do at least one CC per day, and play DK/ES

[elfin cape]

That's why you spam

[glacial venture]

get checkouts from killroy when not 1k yet

[elfin cape]

I haven't bothered with books in a while, but I think I'm at like, 5ish hours for 20 books

I could improve, but I cba

[round narwhal]

for the ploytheism talent on the ES, does it give the major or minor link bonus? or both?

[rough wasp]

I’m slightly under 6h for 20

But I don’t even click it every 6 it’s whenever I remember

[granite grove]

major iirc, minor link is only applied from main link

[reef comet]

23, I've been focusing the other essential ones like shaq, and skilling ones lol

[sharp igloo]

Wdym you havent bothered with books lol? Like you just dont collect them? 🤣

[elfin cape]

Yeah, I always have over 120

[rough wasp]

Cooking Roadkill is essential

[elfin cape]

Not like I need them when basically everything is 245 already

[sharp igloo]

You have 245 on all talents for all 10 guys lol?

[elfin cape]

Pretty much, don't have on some useless stuff like WP skills

[reef comet]

No kidding, that lower cd will be amazing

[rough wasp]

tbh u don’t need shaq that high

[reef comet]

I'm only gonna put it at 50 or so ( at 37 right now)

[rough wasp]

my stat bubbles carried the fuck out of my accuracy

what

[sharp igloo]

Bubbles 1 and 2 will also help your acc

And are also useful for other stuff

[rough wasp]

Bubble 1 good

I’m so tired of clicking it

[sharp igloo]

I stopped printing shit for bubble 1 so that I would be able to click others, but im starting to think I should go back to copper and oak so I can click those and also get more atoms

[rough wasp]

Do it

[sharp igloo]

I dont know what to give up lol.

[rough wasp]

I think ima start clicking less soon lmao

[reef comet]

Lol, I'm printing those just in the hopes that I can eventually start getting greenstacks

[vagrant mountain]

and then monke said it's monke time right before he monke'd everywhere

https://tenor.com/view/monke-gif-20514159

[honest python]

what would be the best class for deathnote?

[sharp igloo]

Probably SB

[honest python]

really? siege breaker?

[sharp igloo]

It depends on your account, but currently SB is best for me. (Assuming you mean afk not active)

[honest python]

oh. id think either ES or Bubonic would be best cause of the respawns and how fast they can kill. SB doesnt seem to kill things as fast. less AOE

then DK on certain maps would be better

[rough wasp]

Cus we Candy our deathnotes

Active is prob ES?

[sharp igloo]

If youre active, then yeah, bubo/ES/DK. But for afk/candying deathnote SB is better.

[rough wasp]

not sure might be map dependent

[honest python]

huh...wonder why that is

[rough wasp]

If it can be candied, I will Candy

[sharp igloo]

Its because skills like bubo's "raise dead" dont apply to afk gains

[honest python]

but plunderous does?

[sharp igloo]

No, they just tend to have more damage I think

[rough wasp]

You just get crazy dmg on SB now

with onyx statues

[sharp igloo]

And QS

[rough wasp]

my QS sucks that’s why I didn’t mention it

[scenic locust]

I think DK gets the highest damage with high refinery levels right?

[sharp igloo]

Nah, SB with QS is highest for sure

[rough wasp]

nah SB dmg scaling is actually crazy

[scenic locust]

sorry, what's QS?

[rough wasp]

Quick slap bubble

[honest python]

whats QS. also my mages have alwasy had the highest damage

[sharp igloo]

Quick Slap alchemy bubble

My mages were always the strongest too, until I started atomming QS. Then SB became way stronger

[rough wasp]

What’s your QS now?

[scenic locust]

I guess since the onyx statues, QS probably scales better than before?

[sharp igloo]

Like 1300ish. I got it to 1000 a while ago, and then just started raising it again 3 days ago.

[honest python]

is QS really that powerful? and do you have high move speed. i only get like 175 speed on most characters

[scenic locust]

your SB should have a lot of move speed

[rough wasp]

Pretty sure he has over 1k% like me lol

[sharp igloo]

QS is quadratic, so it gets stronger and stronger the more you raise it. My movement speed is 950%, and my SB has like 5x as much damage as my mages now.

[rough wasp]

I don’t level it tho since I rather use my atoms elsewhere rn

[granite grove]

and the dmg difference gap will just go further with how QS scales, x5 might be x10 sooner or later

[honest python]

how tf u get 950% move speed?

[rough wasp]

Onyx statues

[granite grove]

boost food % statue and move speed potions

[rough wasp]

And movespeed pots

[granite grove]

boost food % best dmg stat

[sharp igloo]

I finally started leveling the equinox scimitar thing, and realized how much it actually raises damage, so Im just gonna keep raising QS everyday until I max scimitars and see what that gets me to lol

[scenic locust]

that bubble is multiplicative right?

[rough wasp]

Quadratic

[scenic locust]

the equinox bubble I mean

[rough wasp]

1QQ

[sharp igloo]

Hopefully. I think Ill be at around 3k QS by the time I get 23 scimitar. Im currently at 14T with 1.3k QS and 4 Scimitar.

[rough wasp]

huh I thought u would be higher than me with 1.3 QS

[honest python]

well with 3 move speed boost foods i got 444% move speeed now and alot more damage soooo...thanks lol

[sharp igloo]

Lol I meant hopefully to 1Q, no way Id be at 1QQ lmao

[rough wasp]

You should hit 1Q

[granite grove]

note though quick slap bubble is bad early, dont expect much that much dmg with 100-500 levels

[rough wasp]

Just thought u would have more than 14T

[sharp igloo]

Im lacking on speed statues lol

[rough wasp]

Cus my QS bubble is at 550

[sharp igloo]

Ive been activing bubo at wurms instead of beans for statues lol

[rough wasp]

I’m at sandpots rn

[sharp igloo]

Whats your scimitar at?

[rough wasp]

It’s pretty high

8-9

[sharp igloo]

Whats your damage?

[rough wasp]

Uhhh last time I checked on SB

It was like 21-22T?

I’m kinda too lazy to get out of bed rn

[sharp igloo]

Oh. Mine would probably still be lower at 8-9 scim, but probably close

[rough wasp]

ull pass me with a few more QS levels and scims

[sharp igloo]

Whats is making your damage higher now though with half my QS? Your MS?

[rough wasp]

I think it’s prob MS

I’ll get out of bed to check cus I gotta pee too

[sharp igloo]

Whats your MS?

[fast grail]

Defense is lacking

[sharp igloo]

Lol you have both prayers on right?

[rough wasp]

yea

[sharp igloo]

Ok lol. You also have quite a bit more agility than me

[fast grail]

Not an excuse

[rough wasp]

i was using it cause it barely gave me another threshold for gmush