lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[solemn mango]

why nametag isnt that just cosmetic

[paper sail]

Not yet I got sidetracked

[signal osprey]

I guess I'll just keep ranking nullo until I gstack it or something

And hope my void bars survive

[barren otter]

my void bars survived 1 day of doing iron

[solemn mango]

howd u print rare drops

[paper sail]

Ha, you did actually rank 1 below me.

[barren otter]

what section are you testing?

[signal osprey]

Assuming I only rank up along the way for gstacks I would need rank 26 nullo

Surely 26 is easy to sustain

[signal osprey]

Frisbees arent a rare drop

[solemn mango]

oh

[barren otter]

that's like easily 400k void bars a day...

[signal osprey]

I like a good challenge

[limpid yarrow]

any tips for solo W2 party dungeon equinox?

[barren otter]

pray you don't get bad trials?

[winged lance]

Just found out these Vials do have Bonuses ... why dont they Show? Aaaand do i get them?😅

[paper sail]

It is an overall progression number. It sorts all sections that I'm rating into where I expect you to be for them based on your highest enemy map reached (early/mid/late w2-w5, 3 spots for w6 prep, and a final rank for sections that have a current absolute max like Smithing points)

Lowest: 13 ( Early W6 Prep ), Highest: 16 ( Max for v1.91 )
*These sections are the most neglected with an estimated rating of Early W6 Prep: Combat Levels, Stamps, Construction Salt Lick

[untold saffron]

thats odd

[barren otter]

oh interesting

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/1c8f5db3fb7df614a9b242eb365203ee.png

maybe log out and in?

[winged lance]

I'll try 👍

[gaunt forge]

what would u guys recc for min tower reqs before going for 121 all waves?

[winged lance]

Nope no differnce, have it in a few differnt places aswell for example there is no text in the bottom here:

[magic estuary]

is the unlimitted arena entry skill of BM bugged ?

[sick sentinel]

Need to use it before you start a run

[paper sail]

Have you updated your game recently? 😂 Looks like what happens when you try to reference text that doesn't exist in your game files

[magic estuary]

ok... that's unexpeted

[winged lance]

There is no update for me in the Playstore 🤔 guess i could try and reinstall

[signal osprey]

Giants going hard. Got this with only 1 giant failing to proc the bubble

[steady beacon]

@dapper prism I really like your alchemy bubble matierals cost table, but is there any possibility you could share a link to an editable googlesheets version instead of just an image? I imported the image into my own tracking sheet, but I can't mark off materials I've brought to atom level (because googlesheets sucks compared to excel), so it's kind of a pain. Being able to copy the full table into my own would make things a lot easier. 🙂 Thanks!

[winged lance]

Nope no differnce, weird should i just submit a Bug-Report?

[dapper prism]

It's in my main spreadsheet stuff (not public yet). Once it's more done i'll be sharing it.

[pearl pebble]

should i save colosseum tickets for when i have a shitton of droprate to get boss keys from boss

[dapper prism]

Also for more candy and stuff, may even need/want them for quests

[hybrid spindle]

better yet, greenstack them 🤷‍♂️

[unkempt pasture]

can lucky lad be found using candies???

[magic gyro]

This is the second time in a row I have had my dungeon rewards cut in half because the group leader decided to start before the group was anywhere near full

Im never trusting my fellow man again

[unkempt pasture]

isnt lucky lad like 1 in 10m? ive used like 100s of hours not getting a single one on gmush while getting around 700k per hour? wtf

[sleek ermine]

700k kills an hour or what

[unkempt pasture]

yea

[weak vector]

DR is based on base kills not multikill IIRC

[steady beacon]

i hear you! My own spreadsheet is only built for myself at the moment!

[sleek ermine]

do you know what multikill does?

[magic gyro]

I dont think multikill can drop rare drops but I might be mistaken?

[steady beacon]

I guess i'll build one without images.

[vivid garnet]

Lucky lad is harder to get than that I thought from mobs

[unkempt pasture]

shit, true, ill just keep going

[tame flower]

some1 got the best choices fór fight thing on w2?

[worthy helm]

Better chances of lucky with candy on dreadlo

Or active with dk on beans

[unkempt pasture]

yeah but i need the drop on beginner for equinox

[magic gyro]

do crystals have a higher lucky lad drop chance?

Because they drop all rare drops, right?

[worthy helm]

Make that vman a stronk miner

[stoic silo]

seems like it; some droptables are more common

[untold saffron]

is this not an incredible amount of effort compared to just using IT?

[steady beacon]

i'm old school, i like writing things down

[magic gyro]

weekly pet draws are pure anxiety

and then you get a bean

[weak vector]

I just hate how poorly the recycle rates scale

[untold saffron]

#teambloque

[weak vector]

Rams and custard are 150, which isn't even enough for 1 reroll if you're beyond T3 food. Uncommons are worth 10 gems and commons are 5

[untold saffron]

how much is a doot

[weak vector]

2K

[magic gyro]

The gem cost should not scale imo

[weak vector]

that's how gacha games work tho

unless you're talking about the cost to get a pet, to which i agree

[magic gyro]

Yeah, im talking about the summon cost

They should be rewarding more pulls, not punishing them

[hybrid spindle]

moa money!

[weak vector]

pity mechanic that gets progressively harder to achieve

[carmine hearth]

The gem costs literally scale in the players favor (unless you are missing a T1 pet)

[untold saffron]

barely

[weak vector]

imagine lava releasing common pets with w6 that t5 gamblers can't get

[magic gyro]

First of all I somehow havent gotten slime yet

[raw tundra]

it has been more than a week, i have 7 ships and they take minimum 2 hours. just now i got an occult chest and i still don't have the last relic. i am beginnning to think some stats i don't know about are low or something is wrong.

etrng

rng

[vapid cove]

did lava change its name for thanks giving?

[carmine hearth]

The bonus chance of pet rolls doesn't simply exceed the cost increase, it also means that the free weekly pet effectively gives you more gems per week

[weak vector]

It was always that?

[vivid garnet]

If you’re still missing relics from other islands too I would spread out your ships a bit.

[untold saffron]

is there any trick to re-rolling for colo tickets quickly or nah

[magic gyro]

I think it was always called that

[vapid cove]

i thought it was just turkey

[carmine hearth]

Me too, but I have been wrong before

[rugged token]

do it on mobile

[steady beacon]

you can snapshot card drop, right?

[magic gyro]

I supppose I made it to w4 around halloween so I could be wrong

[steady beacon]

just warp into the map with your card drop cards equipped, then switch to your main damage preset?

[raw tundra]

😦

i ain't starting next one without them relics

[hybrid spindle]

that's not necessarily the best course of action because the more islands you unlock and get materials from, the more gold you get and the more ships you unlock, therefore having more chances of getting a relic

[ruby yarrow]

what's the best place to farm dice obols?

[hybrid spindle]

sandypots

[ruby yarrow]

ok thanks

[weak vector]

with midnight cookie

[paper sail]

More players doesn't mean more rewards. Most of the time it ends up meaning less.

[magic gyro]

really?

I typically always get stuck before the 3rd frog in smaller groups

[paper sail]

The HP of enemies scales with each additional player, which reduces your chances of getting to 4th boss consistently. The only thing more players adds is Drop Chance, nothing else.

I won't run in a group of 10. I am fully maxed in dungeon, but I can't carry 9 deadweights to 4th frog. Clearing only 3rd frog with 10 players is still less rewards than 4th frog with 3 players.

[left fossil]

Often getting suck on 3rd frog due people dropping all items on 1st or 2nd frog then

Or they are just afk -_-

[rapid shale]

I’ve never had an issue in a group of 10 by joining parties through this discord

[paper sail]

That's different than a pure PUG like I assume they were in

[rapid shale]

True, just something I’m pointing out if they are struggling. The PUGs do suck I agree

[left fossil]

Groups in party-finder as well..

[paper sail]

Pretty much the only way you avoid it by shunning anyone under rank 40 lol

Selectively finding 10 "good" players though.. takes a long time usually

[undone steeple]

im rank 47 and unless i win the flip im useless xD

[weak vector]

get your cards up for that juicy money and drop rate

[undone steeple]

yeah im not stopping to farm cards there, too much investment

ive bought out the flurbo shop except getting like 2 rings on every 10 chars

[north wren]

I just got to citringes with my bubo on aura spec and it feels so much worse than poison on flombegies or even cans....what do

[weak vector]

sounds like you need more damage

[vapid cove]

this

[sacred verge]

feels? look at the numbers

its not about how it feels, its about the factual number

[north wren]

well...it is i was getting 2.5x larger cranium cooking numbers on poison/aura combo on w4 mobs than im getting on just aura (cause i hit 200 tent) on citringes

[fallen torrent]

Hey scoli how is the good work going on for the autoreview? 😄 @paper sail

[north wren]

and what damage should i have for citringes

my aura's one shot citringes

[weak vector]

enough to 1 shot crystals

[sacred verge]

probably a dmg issue

[north wren]

so i have to hit a minimum of 6.3b....thats a bit rough

[sacred verge]

sounds like enough but i cant remember

been a while since i had that dmg

[paper sail]

Doing well 🙂 Pretty close to the next thing being finished. Should be out today

[north wren]

oh scoli is here, honestly i already love the autoreview

[sacred verge]

does poison 1 shot?

[weak vector]

it's not that difficult- just go get your critical chance to 100% and your crit damage up

[fallen torrent]

theres something i dont udnerstand about the prayer, something about 75% 50% something?

it is confusing

[north wren]

my poison one shots lowers..but yea poison is generally weak so theres no way it oneshots this stuff

[sacred verge]

poison easy 1 shot stuff

[north wren]

its odd cause sometimes i get a really good setup on my auras and it looks like im shredding citringes. but then theres other times that my auras get too clumped and then they die off because im not getting the rest of the citringes in it

[weak vector]

are you using gloves?

[north wren]

yerp

[prisma vigil]

Went from 40k to this in 2 weeks.
It upgraded again... going from 695,274 to the amount in the screenshot xD

[pure spindle]

Youre serious?

[north wren]

+6 is still a plus

[pure spindle]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[north wren]

i got +20 the other day and ive been stuck at the same number for 2 weeks

[pure spindle]

You a got 0.001% increase or so congrats

[prisma vigil]

Thanks :p

[north wren]

these are my stats which i dont think are...terrible? but yea they could just have higher damage in general but im not sure what way to really go for just an increase in damage

[fallen torrent]

@paper sail sry for the second ping ^

[unborn charm]

is there any reason why my voidwalker isn't getting the displayed amount of exp per hour on seasalt island? it says i should be getting 12.9m an hour but when i use a candy its only 4m

[fallen torrent]

*Level the following prayers: Ruck Sack (1/20). This is roughly 75% of max prayer value for Skilled Dimwit and Balance of Pain, and 50% for Midas and Ruck Sack i have this

[paper sail]

I'm splitting that line into 2 to avoid some of that confusion. In your case, you already have 3/4 of the recommendations completed so you're only seeing 1: Ruck Sack. The listed prayer level there (20) is 50% of the maximum value compared to the highest level the prayer goes to (50).

A lot of the prayers are quite strong level 1 and then scale by a linear amount, so I thought 50% / 75% max value might be helpful to see.

[sacred verge]

at your dmg there should be plenty of ways to increase it

[weak vector]

am i the only one not seeing Solo's image?

[sacred verge]

im not seeing anything

[crude tartan]

Is that normal when I reach world 5 without Vman

[fallen torrent]

i do see it, its a knight thing

[sacred verge]

dont need any images to know he got plenty of ways to increase dmg tho

[north wren]

im an idiot i meant to put a screenshot http://puu.sh/JV3X7/16c638fcc9.png

[fallen torrent]

okay im lvling ruck sacking currently gotta wait some worship to get some souls

[west geyser]

is king doot really needed?

[weak vector]

If you're on bubo, your XP should get higher

[prisma vigil]

yes and no

[weak vector]

then you can power level DK and do onyx farms

[sacred verge]

you could probably get stats and dmg for so many places i cant even name em all

[prisma vigil]

Needed per se? No. Extremely valuable, yes!

[weak vector]

probably need w5 gear too

[west geyser]

hmm

[north wren]

yea my gear is dogwater, its on the upgrade line currently. Been working on a ton of upgrades in the past few days

[sacred verge]

also im not shocked you dont CC well at citringe with that dmg

i would reccomend poison to 1 tick enemies honestly

[north wren]

redoing samples, tower defences, finishing anvil entirely, getting my skill mastery bonuses, upgrading tools and skulls, unlocked and leveling shinies

[sacred verge]

also when doing CC you go for max crystal chance

if you did not know

[west geyser]

should i get all my guys on divinity now that i just got to world 5?

[sacred verge]

so choco chip and cards are essential

[night holly]

Why do molti and lampar eclipse feel so damn slow

[north wren]

i did pull off my cards for crystal chance and chocos cause i couldnt one shot

[sacred verge]

essential might be a bit of an overstatement. but for good CC times theyre a must have

[night holly]

citranges is aura. poison 1 tick shouldn't be necessary

[sacred verge]

still is usefull to 1 tick

its not like you dont use ghost

[north wren]

what does your poison hit for lol

[sacred verge]

trillions

[kindred dagger]

is there a quick way to get rid of this ?

[sacred verge]

also with a 6 wide aura, poison is even more important

[north wren]

my poison hits like a limp noodle. http://puu.sh/JV3YP/cd1b4e552a.png

[night holly]

because of how aura applies damage vs poison ticks usually ghost isn't even doing anything on citranges.

[sacred verge]

try with a 6 wide aura and see

[vapid cove]

its gonna take time not like ur instantly gonna be in trillions

[night holly]

fair enough

[dapper prism]

go to dg lobby

[north wren]

im jsut trying to find a better map to aura on, cause like cans has too many platforms. Flombegies kind of work if i throw in poison as well

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[sacred verge]

citringe is the best map for you when you get a bit better stats

[north wren]

i just recently hit 200 tent and im just trying to find some decent map that i can throw him on overnight and day

[sacred verge]

work on your dmg etc and you got it

[night holly]

question, do you still have points invested in the poison skill? The fart mans gas still scales off that talent I'm pretty sure, even if you're not using that talent on your bar

[sacred verge]

200 tent is still usefull on cans/flom

[night holly]

a lot of people skip putting points in it because they don't understand that detail

[sacred verge]

its not like you need to use aura for 200 tent to be usefull

[night holly]

200 tent is more for reducing your CC cooldown. Can still get good 100k+ CC's off 150-160 tent.

[sacred verge]

he got 200 tent tho

[north wren]

i thought that i couldnt really switch to full aura until i hit 200 tent, but yes i still have points in poison

the ghost is 200 the poison is 198

[rapid shale]

He should just farm flombs with poison until citringes is more efficient

[sacred verge]

i would consider working a bit on other stuff to improve enough to get efficient on citringe tho

[night holly]

Yea so I would just back off aura maps until you have more damage

[north wren]

i guess its also rough because im trying to push to citringes cause of the xp and i figure more levels would help me as well

my bubo got from like 318 to 342 in a few hours at citringes

[sacred verge]

when youre at 340 there is little help for more lvls

[night holly]

Whats your crit chance? are you hitting megacrit yet?

[sacred verge]

in my opinion

he is not even close

[north wren]

i mean...i dont even have the mega crit talent yet >.> ive been trying but i cant get lucky enough to get the roll to go to the next

[sacred verge]

in my opinion you need to work on w1-w4 stuff quite a bit

CC is ofc needed. but you also need to work on DR etc

[hollow osprey]

i'm still not able to deal with your name it's just so creative ngl

[sacred verge]

stamps alch probably lacking quite a bit

[sacred verge]

haha glad you liked it 😄

somthing to do for you solo, gett a full set of DR obols

[north wren]

i mean im trying to get alch up thats kinda the point of the bubo XD. Ive been working on w1-w4 stuff a bunch im just kinda locked right now of getting certain things

and i do actually have it...its just not on the bubo right now

http://puu.sh/JV40N/626fc9996b.png

[sacred verge]

ah, thats good

super

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV40Y/a227c3abd4.png

[sacred verge]

keep up the alchemy work. CC at flom is still CC and still better than nothing

[finite lake]

Almost 8000-8500 EXP Book statues in 36-38 hours. Only 5300 more to go

[sacred verge]

stamps might be an easy way of addin on some dmg

also onyx statues could be quite beneficial if you havent allrdy done that

[north wren]

yea probably... i just am kinda tired of farming materials on the es at the moment so i switched focus

did a like week-week and a half grind to get ALL of my smithing materials for all characters

[sacred verge]

i would also work towards megacrit book asap. its huge for dmg

active dmg

[night holly]

You have choco chip. Based on your crit rating you haven't completed onyx. I agree with @sacred verge that DR is a good thing to work on, and will add that you probably want to start working on onyx if you have choco chip and a good crystal chance. Onyx on it's own with Vman statue enhancement will give most family enough crit for megacrit.

[finite lake]

World 2 Onyx statue grind is nice for a second set of personal DR obols

I finished my family and personal page last night and almost have a second set of personal dice obols made from the overnight drops

[sacred verge]

yeah dice is quite easy to drop

[weak vector]

Should also deposit any battleaxe statues you have since you’re a long ways away from going for 20k on it

[finite lake]

Need to make a Rift push for stamp mastery so I can lower my crystal odds more

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV41z/36ff21ae0a.png these are the statues i have backlogged

[fallen torrent]

Tropilogs for lucky lad, whats the best candy to go for ?

i just need 3 of em

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV41J/ac5fed7da7.jpg

those are my statue progresses atm

[sacred verge]

you need to work on statues

so bad

[weak vector]

🔫 all yer candies

[sacred verge]

honestly your statues are terrible

[weak vector]

Bro deposit that 60k stack of movement speed

[north wren]

to be fair ive been backlogging my statues since like...the start of w4

[fast jay]

what do those trees do?

[sacred verge]

why?

[weak vector]

You should have 1 MS pot on and it’ll boost your MS a lot

[night holly]

Yea not trying to be super critical here, but you need to start focusing on bringing these up. It's probably the single largest increase you can make on your account currently

[north wren]

I thought you were supposed to save statues until you get all onyx

[night holly]

I can't say anyones worked out a specific meta for approaching it.

[weak vector]

That’s mostly only for statues that aren’t easy to obtain

[finite lake]

Certain statues that are harder to farm, yes. But if you have 100k statues, you'll be able to get them back faster later

[daring ravine]

doesnt matter if its good or not
(While it absolutely is) even a minor bonus stackedu p will do you many good in the long run

[sacred verge]

if you gonna save for onyx first i suggest you get working on onyx now

[north wren]

yea i have like 300k statues saved currently....

i guess back to the dk, i threw him back in lab to get lab/divinity up a bit since he never got to sit cause i actived him all through w4 and w5 lol

[sacred verge]

w2 and w4 statues should be alright to onyx

im not sure what DR you sit at. but im guessing youre atleast at 10

[night holly]

Just to put some emphasis on this, your current power statue level is only a 56 statue investment to level lol.

I know you're saving for the quest probably on all family, but this should really showcase how much room for movement you have in this area.

[sacred verge]

i do get the dilemma for newer players wanting to save for onyx but i think its better to deposit and save when you actually aim for it

if not you run the risk of saving for weeks and maybe halting progress for very little benefit

[finite lake]

I just deposited a bunch of statues I had saved that were easy to get and the gains were nuts

Went from like 6.4% crit chance from statue to 49%

[north wren]

theres my drop rarity on my dk with full droprate relics on http://puu.sh/JV432/19e82fcadf.png

[finite lake]

And that was only 110k Beholders

Do you have the prayer?

Double check the drop rate spreadsheet, it'll give you some areas that you can work on

[north wren]

i think my crystal cards are pretty solid http://puu.sh/JV43u/6a25d683e0.png

[sacred verge]

solid is ruby

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV43D/e4359f8537.png i did specifically buy cardifiers for those ones >.>

[sacred verge]

smart move

[chrome kite]

omg, I need to push bosses cards

[north wren]

i recently pushed alot of my cards up as well

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/heartbreak-heart-attack-old-man-gif-26161826

[north wren]

im basically full platinum for w1-3 (minus the stupid arena-bones minions in w3)

[sacred verge]

did you do any SB plunder kills solo?

for the DR

[finite lake]

That's a big one. Ngl, I bought the $10 easter pack with the 75 golden eggs, hopped on DK, dropped my orb, opened all the mobs so I got as many kills as possible and then spammed the eggs. Got most of them 4*

[sacred verge]

and do you have vman?

[north wren]

so lets basically act like my SB's dont exist

i have a v-man, but im just so confused on what to do with him.....

[sacred verge]

you should get minimum 1k plunder kills

probably min 10k honestly

[north wren]

i have....

[sacred verge]

but 1k is a start

good

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV442/d71dc614aa.png

[sacred verge]

not good

[north wren]

i hate rangers

[sacred verge]

its not the worst

[sacred verge]

atleast you got the easiest out of the way

[daring ravine]

i should go active him in rift for a while because thats the only location it doesnt overly lag my game

[north wren]

they are currently mushroom slaves

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV44b/5e71211ca4.png

[weak vector]

Speedrun vman, max the fifth talent

[chrome kite]

do plunder kills increase afk?

[sacred verge]

no

[north wren]

someone told me they have really good afk per hour

[sacred verge]

need to active for plunder

[north wren]

im getting like 800k+ kills per hour with them

[chrome kite]

yeah, I thought I'm doing this pain wrong

[sacred verge]

SB is good for AFK killing yes

[daring ravine]

total / each?

[north wren]

total

[weak vector]

Plunder is for DR, and it’s a multi

[sacred verge]

800k

[north wren]

about 410-430k each

[hidden loom]

What shall I Prioritise in the shop?

[sacred verge]

megacrit book

[north wren]

their the epitomy of trash, i hate range classes. If you have a bow as your main weapon, you are my least favorite class instantly

[daring ravine]

nobi each?

[weak vector]

Rangers are better than BB

[hidden loom]

May the luck be with me

[weak vector]

Edit: SB is better than BB

[vapid cove]

rex rings set for everyone the opal rings the stats maxed and the talents

[sacred verge]

the talents last?

[vapid cove]

no particular order but stats being more important

[north wren]

im stuck in rift because of SB as well, i have to get a 75 stack flag on them

[chrome kite]

It doesn't exists 😦

[weak vector]

He doesn’t have 10k flurbos for opals

[sacred verge]

bcus that would be som hella wait for mega crit

[sacred verge]

its does

[daring ravine]

speaking of which since oyure already in dungeon when next HH

[vapid cove]

of course gotta work to them right

[sacred verge]

with how easy 200% crit is nowdays i would consider Mega crit most important

[daring ravine]

ive been neglecting the HH for too long and thats hurting me mentally because htat means im putting off matching scims

[vapid cove]

yeah it is extremely easy

[sacred verge]

crit is a joke these days

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV44V/de56802462.png

http://puu.sh/JV44Z/17b93149b7.png that really didnt make that much of a difference

[rugged token]

He's gonna bring back green crits and release Super Mega Crit in w6 trust me

[pulsar condor]

I unlocked snail and IMMEDIATELY went from 46k nugg to this

[sacred verge]

60k statues is little. but also that was quite the difference

[daring ravine]

i think 17% ms is large enough

[weak vector]

Quick slap

[viral snow]

How did you get onyx and only have that statue at lvl 16 😂

Did you never deposit a statue before ?

[north wren]

cause ive been saving them since i was starting w4....

[vapid cove]

God i wish

[north wren]

so i guess ill go throw my dk into w4 get the rest of these http://puu.sh/JV45h/2b38b822d3.png onyx them and then deposit all button?

[hybrid spindle]

are you already done with w3?

[pulsar condor]

w3 was ass

[hybrid spindle]

only if you have 100% snake vial

[sacred verge]

like any1 sane would do w3 anything but last

[daring ravine]

w3 is awful
( as in takes too long)
do it generally last

[sacred verge]

he got 0 statue lvls

[pulsar condor]

100 did that last

[north wren]

see this is the worst part cause like i get told to do something then i immediately have someone that says no dont do that q.q

[sacred verge]

its okay to deposit

[hybrid spindle]

what are you talking about, good sir? 👀

[daring ravine]

gamba and win
eitherway in his case theres no point not to deposit unless he was depositing like 2m statues or something
from 3% ms to 20% is enough

[north wren]

17% movespeed feels like such a tiny a bonus, atleast with beholder it felt like it did something as it shot me from like 30% crit to 105%

[hybrid spindle]

I did not expect lvl 0 statues when you're talking about something that takes 20 000 statues ^^

[daring ravine]

solo forgor 💀
do not blame him

[north wren]

these are my statue levels

[hybrid spindle]

the much bigger improvement is food effect. that one increases your ms like crazy

[vapid cove]

im almost done with the catching 20k

just using my v man for it

[sacred verge]

food effect is best statue ❤️

[vapid cove]

it is great indeed

[north wren]

So right now what i was going to do, is go to w4 and try to get 4-7k more statues with this loadout. http://puu.sh/JV46l/f759675dfc.png

then once those 3 are onyx im probably just going to deposit all?

[sacred verge]

you can onyx w2 also if you wanto

[north wren]

which ones are w2?

[daring ravine]

yeah i think youre missing quite a lot of crystal %
you got doublers yeah?

[north wren]

ive only gotten one card doubler cause i couldnt afford the other and my gambles love to hate me?

like i have 1 card doubler.....and 4 choco's

[sacred verge]

these are w2

[hybrid spindle]

the more you double the better of course but make sure you don't deposit the crit dmg ones unless you have everything onyxed and the snake vial at 100% because those are hella difficult to get

[daring ravine]

yeah thats pretty low
mine is still low but its around that area without neither of them being rubies
hold on let me open ie

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV474/a50d680cbf.png this is hte doubler im missing...but im nowhere close to affording it

i only have 196 pows currently

havent completed the 10k statue quests yet

[vapid cove]

thought it was 20k

[pastel bramble]

has anyone ever rolled a nugget exactly the same as their current one, curious if its possible 😄

[solemn mango]

where do i do this

hitting the bag isnt working

[amber dagger]

The bag

Till timer runs out

[north wren]

i think the quest gives you 10k pow statues so you have to do it twice to get onyx, then when you do all characters you have 80k left to deposit at the end?

[vapid cove]

ah right the crit damage one

[fathom lagoon]

Does the billjack pepper dish even exist in cooking? Referencing the w4 task/challenge

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV48T/07b97896df.png

[sacred verge]

this is the one you want to save unbtill every statues is onyxed and you got a 100% snake vial

[fathom lagoon]

Also reminder to get your card doubler chip before it leaves today

[vapid cove]

need that 400+ crit dmg

[sacred verge]

this is because its very hard to come by. more or less not farmable

so you want to maximize the ROI

[formal minnow]

Best way to get that is mining dreadlo with candy.

[north wren]

yea i watched the video from griffy bit about monolith when it first was released....its kinda what made me start saving statues?

thus why i have no statue levels

[daring ravine]

thanks for reminding me to buy the 5 star cardifier
eitherway this is my current %

[north wren]

we have basically the same chance >.>

[dapper prism]

use crystal chance on IT for the actual %

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV49C/9136a313d0.png

[dapper prism]

since IE just rounds it

[finite lake]

Man, I need them shrine levels

[daring ravine]

its in players tab yeah?

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[finite lake]

2.13%

[north wren]

where is it in IT trickz?

[finite lake]

Characters -> Select character on the left -> Click stats

[north wren]

also i know you probably dont really remember, but i still have your review notepadded on my desktop basically and im still trying to do everything

[sacred verge]

well in my opinion its no reason to save easy farmable statues for ages. save when going for onyx. maybe w3 ones are an exeption (and kapow)

but feel free to ask trickzs opinion. he knows more than me

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV4a4/e92a71885f.png

[daring ravine]

lmao

you both have 2.13%

[finite lake]

The drop rate on IT is also wrong

[north wren]

oh yea it is quite wrong

[finite lake]

Mine says 11.85x and in game it's 14.17x

[north wren]

http://puu.sh/JV4ak/aa3c64b5c2.png

[finite lake]

Wonder what multi it's not counting

[dapper prism]

its not wrong, it just doesnt include the bundle afaik

[finite lake]

Oh does that really add that much?

[dapper prism]

or maybe it doesnt include SB or both

since that only looks like a 15%+ increase, and bundle was 25%

[finite lake]

It's a 1.1957x increase

[sacred verge]

bundle was 1.20 iirc

[dapper prism]

yes sorry my math idk why i did decrease

[finite lake]

SB is 9.5%

[left spoke]

Multiplied by SB talent

[dapper prism]

Could also use and test the spreadsheet in #1084911530417606656

[left spoke]

Wait, is it 1.2 times your DR or +1.2x ?

[dapper prism]

it's an actual 20% multiplier

[dull nymph]

Finally unlocked particles, how fast do they actually convert?

[dapper prism]

all DR is additive EXCEPT SB Talent (plunderous kills DR) + Gem shop bundle which are both multipliers ontop of eachother

[sacred verge]

its 1.2 x DR

making it a 20% increase

[dapper prism]

every hour, turn of atom collider and set it to 1050m

[finite lake]

Weird. It probably does actually round out, but the displayed drop rate in game and the displayed drop rate in IT are rounded slightly differently so the full number would be 1.2, but it's 1.1957 after rounding

[dull nymph]

Why turn it off?

[dapper prism]

it still converts anything after that

[dull nymph]

Weird- and why 1050 instead of smth lower

[weak vector]

power of 10 talents

[dapper prism]

because u still need mats for stuff like stamps and alch, so why shoot yourself in the leg by capping your max stack any lower

[finite lake]

But if it's on and you accidentally change the conversion number, it'll cut your big stacks to the number you set it. If it's off, you can change that number all you want and it won't mess with your storage

[dull nymph]

Gotcha, thanks!

[dull nymph]

Ahhhh

Well 😂 the most I have in any one stack is 23M, so ig I'll be waiting a while to use this thing

[dapper prism]

Honestly should only be unlocking or pushing for unlocking atom collider once you're prints are in the 10s of mil

Guess you could unlock the first 1-2 things, but stuff gets pricey fast.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1064564142717010041/image.png?ex=656ded9e&is=655b789e&hm=0cdfd3f1bad29366c8c1240e9069084c56f1cccb9793dd4f143ec2985017f3fa&

[dull nymph]

Too late on that one 🤔 but noted- I am nowhere near that lmao. Currently everything is scaling v slowly and idk how to make things much better

Gotcha, thanks!

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/Xji3F6R.png

Boron is the actual thing you would want that helps

[weak vector]

paid money to get my pet food to t5, first roll was a rift slug which i didn't already have. though it sucks to not have gotten doot i like having rift slug so i don't feel like i'm falling behind on talent levels

[dapper prism]

Rift slug pretty OP by itself too. But yeh, doot is gg

[weak vector]

let's hope i get a free one soon so i can sell this one for gems

[dapper prism]

ty4reminder
https://i.imgur.com/X87ubGu.png

[dull nymph]

Is it worth selling that kind of thing, or waiting for trading?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/AKgEkUp.png

[dull nymph]

Oof

[dapper prism]

Meh, i've been lucky enough, just need Ram xD
https://i.imgur.com/D554yUo.png

[eternal wasp]

You got doot already trickz?

[dapper prism]

Goot doot early T4 treat

[weak vector]

trading isn't a thing. Actually, Lava's gonna let you grind them into fertilizer for w6 farming

[finite lake]

As a Ram owner and non Doot owner, I can say that gameplay wise, Ram is the biggest game changer on my account

[lost tendon]

Same

after sheep!!!

[finite lake]

That being said, I still want my Slug and Doot please

[dapper prism]

I was honestly happy to not get ram, and flamed how bad ram is, now i miss Ram

Although i dont think it would be "that huge" anymore

[lost tendon]

sheep is insanely nice

[weak vector]

sheep is also a great buff

[dull nymph]

Got it- just not sure how to do that 😅 I feel like my mining/chopping setups are pretty okay, but can't get beyong the 10s of thousands

[hollow osprey]

brooo

[weak vector]

especially bc it'll immediately apply to the w6 bubbles that I pre-unlocked 🙂

[dull nymph]

Oop- thought trading was gonna be a thing in the future, dang

[hollow osprey]

@dapper prism you're rude

[lost tendon]

wait what

[lost tendon]

pre unlocked

?

[finite lake]

You can unlock bubbles early

[upbeat trout]

Hi, how does this work, does it stack ? or does it reset on every succesful level up ?

[weak vector]

#1138827420338757753 message
yeah you can unlock w6-8 bubbles early

[dapper prism]

You can unlock upto w8 bubbles, just no benefit

[pallid raptor]

What is the best class to farm hamsters

[dapper prism]

Hampters, ES

[lost tendon]

daamn

[finite lake]

Yeah, I noticed a couple of the charts could use some reworks

!dropchart

[pallid raptor]

Thx

[finite lake]

This one is really behind

[dull nymph]

Gotcha, thanks!

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dull nymph]

Silly question- what's the difference between a normal card and a passive one

[dapper prism]

a passive card u dont have to equip..

Hence why it's "Passive" xD

Rift 16 to unlock passive skilling cards, need lvl 300 Skilling levels for each skill (Combined between all alts kinda thing)

[dull nymph]

Ahh XD that makes a lot of sense

[dapper prism]

and PS: No you cannot double a passive card with lab chips

[weak vector]

Passive cards has left me unmotivated to ruby my choppin cards

[upbeat trout]

hi, can you tell me if that stacks or does it reset on level up ?

[pallid raptor]

Speaking of rift, can someone tell me how to clear rift 31 which is Beat a lava skull on two characters but they spread half the time. I tried this on my SG but I can’t seem to get anything past platinum.

[dapper prism]

unmotivated? should be more motivated than ever xD

[fallen torrent]

515m/1000m FOR SNOWBALL

oops caps sorry.

[hollow osprey]

anything to improve at my DR card build? except the bop card lmao

[dapper prism]

Don't encourage to at least around 15+, imo even 20+.

You can encourage and stack it BUT if you use an attempt to level up it resets.

[hollow osprey]

for crystal farming*

[fallen torrent]

854M/1000M kraken, 676M/1000M zap item 976M/1000M dust motes

[hollow osprey]

ruby cards not unlocked

[fallen torrent]

cant wait to get all those vials

[hollow osprey]

just rubified them

[heavy moth]

too much time a tremor.... i needd to up those bean kills

[fallen torrent]

night time my Bubo, 1 night i afk DK

and alternate

[dapper prism]

I'm honestly confused why someone would have that much tremors o.o

Even then 40b sounds overkill

[heavy moth]

XD either liquid or im off for a weekend long

[stuck pasture]

It resets your encouragement?! Well Fek I never knew. I’m sick of failing so close to 15 so I’ve boosted it to 54% and I was going to try today

[heavy moth]

25B on bubo

[fallen torrent]

Trickz

i encourage 3 time and then try it.

i dont have protection but i am snail lv 19

im a crazy maniac

[dapper prism]

so you went to lvl 19 snail without lvl 15 protection

[fallen torrent]

yeah i have only lv 5

protection*

[dapper prism]

well, gg on you

[stuck pasture]

Holy shit that’s insane lol

[calm gust]

Is there a sheet on all of the bosses moves like descriptions (weekly bossee)

[azure spindle]

I think I might hate you now, just a bit

[dapper prism]

#1157094107085283428

[stuck pasture]

I’ve gotten to 13 twice. Once went back to zero second time back to 10

[azure spindle]

I had over 60 envelops stockpiled to go from 10 to 15, think I got to 14 once

and ended on 10

[dapper prism]

I finally hit my 200 Envelope goal, but honestly still dont think ima spend it after yesterdays conversation xD
https://i.imgur.com/xwbUKe6.png

[stuck pasture]

And that bloody nug too… f you lol

[fallen torrent]

for those who dont believe me

[dapper prism]

Why risk a good snail xD

[azure spindle]

aw man, thought I had a 10x nugget upgrade for a second but it was just 2 nuggets overlapping perfectly

[tall horizon]

Not good if it's sub 20

[dapper prism]

Isn't sub 20 o.o

[tacit tulip]

back to 10 again baby

[tall horizon]

🦶

[signal osprey]

Not good if its sub 25

[dapper prism]

How many letters are you on?

[fallen torrent]

i'll slowly reach snail 25 without protection

cause i put the D in raw

[signal osprey]

Like 60 something I think

[fallen torrent]

Weaklings

[dapper prism]

Was every encourage worth the same much?

[hollow osprey]

super bits are unlocked on 40 right

[stuck pasture]

So you guys just hoard letters and spam until you reach the next milestone?

[winged lance]

Any other Ideas? 😅 i tried Steam and have the same Issue

[hollow osprey]

superbits are the stuff with t5 t6 plants etc right?

[fallen torrent]

it goes a lot well with buff from Tower defense too

BRUH

WONDERING WHY I NEVER HAD T7

I FORGOT TO UPGRADE THE T7 UPGRADE....

i looked at my superbits to see and answer him... realized now...

i feel dumb

[signal osprey]

I'm not weak I can reset my snail whenever I want

[fallen torrent]

i can. b ut i still do

and lv 19 so far

[signal osprey]

Told you so

Such an easy game

[dapper prism]

Either way once you have a decent snail, that is still providing unlocks at a decent rate it's best to sometimes hover at a certain lvl, like 18 and have some letters.
Because you either fail and mess up weeks of progress for gaming, or you get lucky. But if you have some supply on letters at least you may be able to get back to the 17-18 snail right away.
This is obv if you're still unlocking stuff at a decent rate.

Thing is we are at 20's+ where it's too risky to lose the snail down to 20, the odds are crap af and yolo is the way to go.

And yeh, contract doesnt care because of a certain reason I won't spoil

[fallen torrent]

he has 118m nugget i know

[lament vault]

is it worth neglecting a lot of my other char progress to push my bubo to world 5 to jumpstart sailing and divinities?

[dapper prism]

Well, that's not really the reason

[fallen torrent]

uhm

[signal osprey]

Well I spent all 54 mail and only hit 21 once and then went back down to 20 on the next attempt

[dapper prism]

Rushing to w5 is always great, once in w5 you'll be stuck in divinity for week(s) which is the ideal time to backtrack and catch up other alts.

[hybrid spindle]

4 fails at lvl 9 and now a reset -.- fuck this snail

[rough wasp]

But you're done

[dapper prism]

Gaming is never done >:)

[signal osprey]

Yes it is

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/wRFF8my.png

NEVER!

[signal osprey]

Fuck that skill

[fallen torrent]

7 fails at lv 17, 8th was a succes, then 18-19 was an instant win

[dapper prism]

2028 Gaming update!

[rough wasp]

🤝 except mine failed at 8

Alvin didnt like my prayers

[signal osprey]

Feels kinda good resetting my snail now tbh. Almost cathartic in a way

[rough wasp]

so it makes u never wanna do it again

[dapper prism]

Pff, Imagine only having a 113m nugget, what about a 1b nugget Contract, huh?

https://tenor.com/view/get-back-to-work-antwan-taika-waititi-free-guy-go-back-to-work-gif-22888352

[red crescent]

Anyone know what seashell level I should work twords?

[signal osprey]

Theres absolutely no chance I keep gaming now that my snail is reset

[hollow osprey]

is there a sheet for arena comps?

[signal osprey]

Gotta wait until at least 22 again so that I can buy upgrades while I do it

[hollow osprey]

just have those

[dapper prism]

nutto and snelbie

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[barren otter]

you attempted 23? lmao

[signal osprey]

I gotta get 25 somehow

[dapper prism]

Did you ever check how much 1 encourage gives?

[signal osprey]

Although that will have to wait for another day

[barren otter]

its fucked man

i had 20 encourages on 22

[signal osprey]

Encouragement?

[barren otter]

and it was 10.7% chance

even if i took it to 60 encourage it only goes up to 13%

[weak vector]

rift slug increased my logs from 400M to 600M. Worth

[rough wasp]

Contract doesnt encourage his snails. He just beats them

[signal osprey]

I'll probably encourage if I ever get 23 ig

[rough wasp]

Beatings will continue until morale improves

[dapper prism]

Thought you had a 23?

[cerulean hemlock]

I agree

[signal osprey]

Well I did

[rough wasp]

[signal osprey]

But now I'm at 20

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/salty-salt-bae-gif-7529894

^ how contract treats it's snail

[cerulean hemlock]

#player-suggestions message
You read my sugg yet? 😛

[signal osprey]

Well yeah the atom is called sodium for a reason

If yall aint salting your snails thats a personal problem

[rough wasp]

Is that why my snail demoted

[dapper prism]

I'm confused what the two have to do with one another xD

[cerulean hemlock]

Nothing 😉

[cerulean hemlock]

Isn't that murder?

[signal osprey]

Its best to not ask too many questions

[cerulean hemlock]

Can't we just feed it the squirrel's legs?

[rough wasp]

im scared of red panda now

[cerulean hemlock]

I want squirrel to get a disability and snail to grow in size too

[signal osprey]

Thats the best gaming buff imaginable tbh

That squirrel only uses its legs for evil

[dapper prism]

Confused..

[cerulean hemlock]

D̴̈͊ǘ̷̊c̶̀̓k̴͌͑ÿ̵́͝,̴̀̂ ̸̉you're too̸̓̆ ̷͒̀l̷̇ate.

[quiet pewter]

how to get 75 clover trophies?

[tacit tulip]

drop a clover trophy, 75 times

[cerulean hemlock]

git gud

[quiet pewter]

hows w2?

[cerulean hemlock]

Sweltering

[quiet pewter]

how to get 75 distinct clover trophies?

[cedar sun]

do you have to re-book talents if you subclass swap and then swap back to the original subclass?

[cerulean hemlock]

100% MS is so slow

[cerulean hemlock]

I think so

[cedar sun]

well shit, I'm gonna need a lot of books

[tacit tulip]

you need a sharpie and to write numbers on them

[cerulean hemlock]

If you get 20 a day, it's fine

[cerulean hemlock]

What type of tip?

[cedar sun]

need to get the bum ass bb and bm to 500 :\

[quiet pewter]

w6

[noble sable]

You can get it in afk or playing online

[tacit tulip]

fine it's a pain to write with the thicc ones

[noble sable]

Increase your drop rate and you will have a better chance of getting It drop

[cedar sun]

that requires too much patience

[cerulean hemlock]

👍

[tacit tulip]

if anything it requires less patience. Watching BB grind takes patience

[cerulean hemlock]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/741696802666840167/1088025180095381564/BuboEndGame.gif

[cedar sun]

not if I swap him to dk

[quiet pewter]

if your not into patience, im not sure why you are playing an idle game lol

[rough wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/738868424813445172/1116408301295521873/Vgqdtc6F7H.gif

[left spoke]

Why do you increase cap and not rate ? 🤔

The gif is amazing btw

[tacit tulip]

mostly cause who cares about trench

getting more of it faster meant nothing and when the gif was made, no equinox

[rough wasp]

i care about trench

[left spoke]

Another reset to lv.10

From 13 to 10 after 14 to 10

Is there a recommanded encourage/level ?

[tacit tulip]

The recommendation is to just not fail the upgrade

[chrome kite]

skill issue\git gud

[tacit tulip]

Same as getting a doot pull 😄

[chrome kite]

yep

[stiff swan]

What’s the verdict on trading loot for gold bars to the dude in sailing? Worth it, not worth it? As far as I’ve seen the other loot is only used to upgrade boats? And gold bars upgrade the blessings from gods for div exp % boost

[bold quiver]

i would always save 4 envelopes, use 1 on encourage and 3 on attempt

[fallen torrent]

do like me. yolo it to lv 19 and never reset once

[bold quiver]

If u dont trade loot you cant rly progress like ahuman being on sailing

cuz the gold bar normal drop is horrendous

[stiff swan]

Alright that was my first impression. Wasn’t sure if there was some other mechanic the other loot is needed for?

[cerulean hemlock]

Shhh

[calm gust]

Yayy first time beating 5 skulls for weekly boss now I gotta solo dungeons o.o

[calm gust]

999

Damn those messages are late from 40min ago XD

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/just-get-to-it-would-ya-danny-devito-edward-gilpin-jumanji-the-next-level-get-on-with-it-gif-16163514

[quiet pewter]

how doable is the 121 in all TD equinox quest?

[vapid cove]

its a bit of a task

[barren otter]

but its very doable

[left spoke]

Which one would you use on board ?

[quiet pewter]

i can hit 170 on the goblin TD, do you think that will be good enough for 121 in the last one?

[quiet pewter]

player xp

[prime cloud]

Having some low dmg issues with my vman still, at 14000m so far but just can't seem to boost it past that point much, any recommendations? (Most of my chars are 150x that DMG wise 😑)

[left spoke]

Thanks, I'll try to get full xp

[vapid cove]

skill levels?

they should all be at or higher than 100

[left spoke]

Btw the cog value doesn't depends on Cons level or anything, right ?

(fully random)

[quiet pewter]

whats your LUCK stat on him?

[prime cloud]

Yeah working on that, limiting factor is my trapping skill ATM...

[prime cloud]

Not crazy high 8k atm

[vapid cove]

yu do need higher construction levels for better cogs

[left spoke]

Yeah but once you already unlock ultimate cogs

[quiet pewter]

seems ok, probably not your problem, have you built and booked all his dmg talents?

have golden food and bullets on him?

[bold quiver]

what is the best character to candy these stuff? vman?

[left spoke]

Higher construction level = higher max stat ?

[prime cloud]

I believe so, I'll send some screenshots shortly

[left spoke]

Oh ok, thanks

[quiet pewter]

no need for sc, by this stage you should know what builds dmg, just recomend you double check you built it and booked it

[bold quiver]

@unique lagoon everytime i look at your prof pic i get reminded by how good steins gate is, appreciate

[daring rapids]

Did I break something here?

[left spoke]

Last talents aren't implemented yet

[tacit tulip]

VIP 6/7 are placeholder books

so they show up like that atm

[daring rapids]

ahh ok, thanks

[quiet pewter]

wait wheres the blue bag on the middle row from

[fading plover]

so with some of the divinity and other modifiers i have over 100% afk gains is it now just better to log out on everything, or with respawn mechanics will active play still get more gains?

[limber elm]

Just got my first time hitting 10M damage :)

[old crane]

Thats around where I am in liquid/cr and I know I'm still relatively low but its going well now

[errant sluice]

is this with lab?

[daring rapids]

one of the new islands, I think its the 200 bottles one( called Rando Event Looty)

[rough wasp]

630 is 90% iirc

But I just level it cause I click

[quiet pewter]

thanks!

[daring rapids]

80-100/hr and like 3k if ur late gamin otherwise ur good early/mid late gamer

[prime cloud]

ik you said no need but I'm starting to go insane at this point thinking I must be missing something xD

[left spoke]

Looks alright, but on the 3rd tab you should get more point on 3D printing, right hand, and crystal

And crystal spawn on tab 2

[prime cloud]

This is just a dmg build though??

[frosty lark]

How much dmg should I be doing to take out chaotic kattlekruk?

[prime cloud]

On what char?

[frosty lark]

Dk

Or the green one

[quiet pewter]

looks ok, not dmg related but i think the class exp talents on tab 3 and 4 are kinda useless

[frosty lark]

Forgot its name

Yeah that

[prime cloud]

Feels bad man, such low dmg 😦

[elfin cape]

Serimo such a bully

[prime cloud]

Bubo you could do with 100m dmg, it'll just take a bloody long time xD

[frosty lark]

I also meant nightmare not chaotic

[quiet pewter]

@prime cloud can you double check that you dont have any prayers on that sacrifice dmg? also hows your food tab looking? gold food and bullets can be A LOT of dmg

[bold quiver]

weird set

why not full magma

or 3 magma 1 kuttle

[elfin cape]

[prime cloud]

Isn't Royal Turban just goated for vman?

[elfin cape]

Wat

[bold quiver]

idk, ive never used that since i started playing, thats why i asked

i dont even know what that helmet does

[prime cloud]

It's pretty op for vman, 15% more gold food effect

[bold quiver]

doesnt seem better than magma

[prime cloud]

Depends what you're doing with it I guess

[bold quiver]

[quiet pewter]

i just run magma/kruks on my vman

[elfin cape]

15% golden food effect and no stats is shit

[bold quiver]

cuz its added golden food effect, not multiplicative

so it will be 15% on top of everything u already has

[elfin cape]

Sigils + stamps give WAY more

[bold quiver]

old guides say that/youtube

but they were before W5 release

[left spoke]

Is it useful to get column cogs for my Vman ? (= 3 columns)

[bold quiver]

no idea why that would be good, so no

[left spoke]

And do you have Vman on board ?

[quiet pewter]

why is your vman even there?

[left spoke]

Wanted some cons xp lol, guess it's bad

[bold quiver]

only 2 squire on board

[left spoke]

Thanks guys, more space for more xp now

[quiet pewter]

his con level should naturally be higher than for example his anvil level anyway? so its not holding you back

[bold quiver]

why would u having a vman there give u cons exp

[old tendon]

https://s0ulsy.idleonefficiency.com If anyone can help me get things in better order I would greatly appreciate it. I'm ready to be roasted

[quiet pewter]

fix your alchemy

[bold quiver]

focus on alchemy, cooking, stamps, do worship,

that bot sucks

tested that on 2 of my smurfs, bad advice for optimal gameplay everywhere

yeah its mostly giving u random advice as like " level up eff bubbles to 70-80% capacity, stuff like that

[quiet pewter]

eh i mean it would waste some levels on not very good bubbles, but in terms of overall efficency thats small and still much better than ignoring alchemy. it having flaws and sucking are not the same thing

[bold quiver]

then some bad stamps to level up

so it in fact will make your progression slower

cuz u shouldnt be doing bubbles to % efficiency and stuff lkike that if u are still progressing through rifts and have not beat

46

[left spoke]

Cons xp for Vman, but I removed it dw

[quiet pewter]

still faster than someone doing completly the wrong things though. its advice is in the ballpark

[bold quiver]

bad advice is still bad advice

if i followed what that was saying on my smurf acc it would just make me progress slower

[left spoke]

If it's better now is it always better ? (one has a better Bonus construct exp and the other a better Player construct XP on one char)

[quiet pewter]

well yeah because you already know how to play, did you actually read the argument im making

[bold quiver]

exactly thats why i said its bad to even use that bot lol

cuz i know how to play, i know that if u follow that its bad, specialy if u dont know what u are doing

[zealous niche]

The player construct exp is better

[left spoke]

Is it better as I get higher level ? (I'm at ~470)

Ty !

[zealous niche]

It’s multiplicative with the construct exp, which usually ends up in the thousands while your player exp ends up in the hundreds

[bold quiver]

is that an actual vman?

[zealous niche]

So a smaller increase for the player exp is worth more in that multipler

[bold quiver]

damnn thats amazing bro!

[elfin cape]

I'm assuming you have the highest % cog ever

[bold quiver]

higher than lord pancake cons?????

[tall horizon]

Na serimo is a wanna be pancake

[prime cloud]

Hold up, vman for construction??

[bold quiver]

what are your knights at? 2500?-3500?

[elfin cape]

Pancake uses 2 DKs, right?

So, it would make sense to assume that Serimo using Vman, having way higher levels, would get better max cogs

[bold quiver]

a baby

vman is the fastests leveling guy in cons right? if u use ccd

every level is only 19,75% exp idk

[elfin cape]

Gods don't need luck

[bold quiver]

isee

what is your player exp at with those levels?

just the %

i stopped at 8,2k, gonna farm exp cons again after i reach 1500

hmmm not that crazy i assume

is there a way to calculate my max possible cons exp? in 1 cog

its cool, as long as i know that it exists one dayu i might find

damn such a dif

my average might be around 150-170%

[undone steeple]

goddamn staring at my dk farming beans for the last 2 lucky lads

[bold quiver]

i have 1 at 200%, my baby cog

[undone steeple]

anyone knows a good place to get one with candies? 😄

[left spoke]

Player xp or bonus xp ?

[left spoke]

iirc on Vman it was tropilogs or dreadlo

[undone steeple]

i already got the recipe so unless vman is the best for actually getting more, id do it on others

[bold quiver]

@tall horizon what is the best char to get these? vman since he has that rare drop talent (god knows what it actualy boosts)?

[left spoke]

Bonus is non-oriented

So you mean the opposite, right ?

[prime cloud]

Happy now? 😛

[bold quiver]

is that better than that helmet u were wearing?

[tall horizon]

I did it active with es

[bold quiver]

gonna do with SB candy then

im almost at 10M dreadlo bars, stuck at 8M

[tall horizon]

Damn greenstack dreadlo is impressive

I stopped at Lustre lol

[bold quiver]

not when u went crazy on gmush deathnote cuz u were baited by someone!

[prime cloud]

Yeah it's better damage 😄

[bold quiver]

[prime cloud]

Need to figure out if there's owt else I should swap around now

[bold quiver]

iirc kuttle armor and 3 magma pieces were the best dmg

but its been months since i tested it, so i might be tripping
and since it involves all stats %, there might be some breakpoints

[undone steeple]

is there a way to increase forge speed, btw?

[old crane]

Afk claims with SB

[undone steeple]

I meant increase the speed at which it turns ore into bars

i only know of brimstone forge and oils

and upgrades i guess but those are capped fast

[old crane]

archer talent gives forge progress on kill

[undone steeple]

yes i know im not talking about forge progress im talking about forge speed

[hollow osprey]

does the max possible exp per cog increase per cons level?

[undone steeple]

it matters you just candy it and go take it out

espec for higher difficulty bars

[hollow osprey]

tyty

[undone steeple]

wdym no

?

i have 15k dreadlo ores in the forge
1hr candy gives me, say, 1000 dreadlo bars
thats still far from my cap

so if you have higher ore cap you get more bars per candy hr?

[paper sail]

From archer afk claims, yes

[undone steeple]

thats technically an answer to my question as to how to increase forge speed lol

[paper sail]

Barrels that only give speed (like Crude Oil and Radioactive waste) do nothing for this situation.

Barrels that give extra bar chance (Toxic Sludge, w5 magma Barrel) just give you more bars for the same amount of ore consumed.

[undone steeple]

I still dont really get it

[hollow osprey]

does using barrels make a big diff? never rly used any tbh

[undone steeple]

this is my cap ore, 16581
Wiki entry for gold ore: Smelt down 7 Ores into 1 Bar at the Forge. Smelting will take 350 Seconds per Bar using Forge Slot 1
You mean to say I should get 2368 gold bars for 1 hr candy?

because I dont

[hollow osprey]

how many magma barrels do you guys use per forge slot?

[undone steeple]

just sb @ gmush

yes, like 9m kills per hr

[paper sail]

Step by step, let's go.
Your ore cap is 15k ores.
Dreadlo bars require 1k ores = 1 bar, takes 41 minutes.

Claiming AFK skills on an Archer gives Forge progress time thanks to the Smelting Everyday talent. A 1hr candy is usually way more than enough to rack up enough kills to beat out the time required to smelt all ore into bars.

[undone steeple]

you're saying it should always get the max bars per 1hr

on sb?

maybe last time I tried it out I was wrong

but thats good to know, should make getting gstack bars faster

[paper sail]

Yes. With ~100 points into the talent, you only need ~200k kills to fully smelt all possible ores. If you have more than 100 points into the talent, you need less and less time.

Eventually you kill enough that even the minimum afk claim (2 minutes) is enough.

[undone steeple]

what i said still applies tho, how to increase forge speed: increase forge cap

you're literally increasing the ammount of bars you get with sb

[wild tendon]

how much damage do i realistically need for kattlecruk? am way too weak rn

[paper sail]

A x B = C
Asking how to increase A by saying to increase C is stupid.

[undone steeple]

its obviously not literal

[icy dirge]

it's lessening the time it takes to make x amount of bars but it isn't making any bars faster

[wild tendon]

i cant kill the moles fast enough

[undone steeple]

i wanted to know how to get more bars with sb candy

if you increase cap, you do

[paper sail]

That isn't what you asked though You ASKED how to increase forge speed.

[keen pilot]

What's the max cap in Forge? 50k? 60k?

[paper sail]

Don't think I've seen anyone with 40k yet

Mid/high 30s

[keen pilot]

7k difference is very deadly

[undone steeple]

only way to increase forge cap is arcade?

[keen pilot]

There are achievements

[left spoke]

Construct change from 1~2h:
Build Rate: 100M/h => 46M/h
Total xp: 2B/h => 4.6B/h

[undone steeple]

hm nice i havent gotten the vitamin d one yet

[bold quiver]

i think i'll farm a build rate setup for me, wanna see how strong it is

imagine if i can 3x my build speed? that would be huge

[left spoke]

On which char should I log in first ? I did DK for the construction bonus xp but it reduces its own xp compared to loging in with Blood Berserker

[bold quiver]

blood berserker

[left spoke]

Thanks

[bold quiver]

it is better, but realisticaly, i am at 3,5B speed, how long will it take to 3x that?

so if i instantly swap and get 3x i can use a month of that to finis my tower defense buildings and then swap back to exp, profit 100%

my poison is 80 already, almost there!

oh i aint going for 120

screw that kkkkkkkk

lava needs to release a new build speed source for that to be achievable in a normal lifetime

imagine maxing trapping drone

[fading plover]

so does Omniphau have a proc per day limit or does it just proc all the time when you collect any afk gains

[paper sail]

Every time you claim afk gains.

[bold quiver]

u will be ready for that (w6 soon)

[fading plover]

dang that seems broken

[left spoke]

It only gives one of the possible outcome

And when it procs on cooking, it's almost useless

[fading plover]

right but i can proc it every 5 min afk session if i wanna try hard and it'll give me an hour proc

[left spoke]

Nope

Rounded up

Only visual

[fading plover]

so it's saying an hour but giving me what ?

just the 5 minuts

[left spoke]

5 min if you afk 5 min

[fading plover]

ok ok ok that makes more sense

what another section of bad programming tho

[left spoke]

Very useful when it procs on printer

[fading plover]

glad i asked, wouldn't wanna sit here and proc it all the time for the next hour

[tall horizon]

What did you get too?

[bold quiver]

@tall horizon too? i candied to 1T

drained all my 72-24-12 4h candies kkkkkkkkkkk and a bunch of 2h and 1h

[solemn mango]

someone /dance with me in world 4 for achievements in pizza 1

[tall horizon]

Editing on phone is annoying, so deal with my grammar 😛

[bold quiver]

it was 22,6M

nothing crazy i guess, my dmg was 1,7Q and ended 2Q or something cuz of smith leveling, pog

[steady beacon]

Does card drop snapshotting still work? I feel like I'm getting worse results than when I just equip them in the first place.

Also, does DR snapshot too?

[tall horizon]

Cdr still snapshots afaik, Dr does not

[bold quiver]

i dont know how to increase my KPH higher than that anymore lol

just pumping quick slap

how do people reach over 30M kph?

[tall horizon]

I'm at 28m kph, could barely get to 500b with my stock.

[bold quiver]

need more colo runs

[tall horizon]

Damn scaling making my older candy wasted

[steady beacon]

So if I switch to my DR cards, they will take effect, right?

[bold quiver]

i got this much with all my tickets, not gonna have to wait a week or so to farm more through pens

[tall horizon]

Yes, must reload map with cdr then swap to dr

[tall horizon]

I'm gonna try to gs that prior to w6, maybe this holiday weekend is a good time

Think I have like 2m

[untold saffron]

how many hourglass you getting per run?

[bold quiver]

good enough. Its not that hard to farm those, i would probably have 8M or more if i cared about waiting for orb

so i end up doing a bunch of runs without orb stacked. W2 timing sucks

W3 timing u hardly lose orb even if u still keep running nonstop, W2 awful

[bold quiver]

i have no idea, didnt check

[tall horizon]

Na, there is no way I'm doing it lol. I'm lazy mode idleon these days

[bold quiver]

yeah

how much dmg do u have? its probably mostly dmg lacking

and what is your KPH?

oh pretty much the same

[tall horizon]

30m is probably meme snapshot

[bold quiver]

hmm i see,

[tall horizon]

Since you can get an image of the snapshot effect, but not actually use it

[steady beacon]

Ok, so I'm doing it right, in theory. Is there anything else I should be snapshotting along with the 3 card drop cards? Still got 5 slots. 🙂

[bold quiver]

oh that must be it then

@brave osprey i just had around 50k hours of candy sitting around after doing 10k on fractal island, then someone gave me the idea to do 1T gmush

[tall horizon]

Though a qs pusher could probably get 30m

[bold quiver]

and i was like, ehh why not, nowhere else to spend these anyway

im pumping QS until lava releases w6, already at 4200!

if the math checks, every day its around 3,6% extra dmg (checked 2 times so not reliable data

what is yours at ?

[icy dirge]

why not both

[bold quiver]

U can

i would rather uninstal the game than do that!

say no to hourly clicking meta

damn, your bubbles must be insanely strong that u have that dmg on SB without qs, good job

yeah i did it for like, a month max and never again

oh yeah the mana hourly click, its very strong

[paper sail]

How do you get such low res photos

[viral snow]

Running idleon on a pi

[vagrant mountain]

reduce the size and then save it and make it bigger

[viral snow]

Thats what she said

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[zinc torrent]

does multi kill increase my odds to get cooking clogs?

[viral snow]

Average bank surveillance Camera experience

[olive sphinx]

Why 4k

[vagrant mountain]

Yeh, I aspire to afford serimo's setup one day

[olive sphinx]

[viral snow]

By the look of the screenshot
Your local wallmart will get you Everything you need for fifty bucks

[olive sphinx]

That a damn good setup

How much did it cost you ?

[viral snow]

Thats a prison setup

[olive sphinx]

150K ?!!! HOLY SHIT

[tacit tulip]

Sakori setup (with my other idle game open lol) 😄

[vagrant mountain]

keyboard is kinda overkill

[viral snow]

Is it an esp3288 ?

[viral snow]

No kvm ?

[tacit tulip]

work laptop on the right - I swap right monitor and my keyboard to it during the day, but keep left mouse available for idleon

[viral snow]

What a madlad

[vagrant mountain]

are your paintings supposed to be crooked

[tacit tulip]

No, work laptop is working

left monitor is my pc during the work day, and I leave my left mouse connected to my pc so I can click bubbles sommetimes

[viral snow]

Result of cogclicking rage

[tacit tulip]

No but it annoys other people more than me so it stays