#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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The tusk artifact, captains with artifact find%, and 3 shiny pets give bonuses to artifact find
Ugh... been trying to get Eldritch Fury Relic... what a pain in the butt
Guess i wont be able to get more than the tusk for now
Eldritches usually takes like a month +
Currently i have all artifact chance maxed out to the best of my ability(shiny lv5), and im still at 0.05%
Anyways ty for help
well rn I'm gonna focus on other artifacts sadly...
Level 5 isn't the max for shiny pets
cause I really need to get new stuff.
I know but im not putting them in for a few months
5 is good enough for now i have other pets to get to 5
I got the fury relic but I'm trying for the ancient, is going bad
Sounds like quitter talk to me ๐คทโโ๏ธ
But yeah, it's a hassle getting artifacts
got the ancient... but Voidwalker's talents are stuck at 220. I need 225 ;-;
Nah i got a few more starsigns and shiny speed to get to 6 before i redo all
but I got so much meal speed that I gotta increase the level. I let the game run for an entire day to finally beat goddamn arena round 200
I'm tempted to aim for level 10 on all shiny pets but I haven't calculated how long it'd take yet.
Straight up a year i think
I also got all the meals and spices so... all I can do is get more artifacts...
Yeah, but how much will it be in Active BM time? ๐
Sooooooooooooon
what stats should i be looking for in a captain? mostly loot? artifact find for trying to find golden/ancient?
speed
Loot and/or boat speed
ok one more thing
Unless BM was changed, the vman buff only affects the egg production
so not the best but better than nothing?
Lategame you'll want max loot
Before that you'll want loot and/or speed
Loot will help you upgrade everything faster, speed will help you get more boats to the further islands faster.
It has always affected Shiny progress, as far as I'm aware.
should I not be getting any captains with cloud discovery for the future when clouds are all cleared or is it better to get them when I have clouds and just delete and replace them once clouds are all gone?
I agree that it's incredibly unintuitive, though.
captain level ups will add the base stat to its current stat. So try to buy ones with high base stat so in the end they get a lot better
Cloud discovery is sadly not good.
Speed will also help you discover clouds quicker, but it also is useful for going to islands.
Leveling cloud captains is also tougher because they don't level up at all from going to clouds, only to islands.
aight thx, I'll start replacing 'em now whilst their levels are still low
Once again lava is doing the funny with descriptions
so i should focus on sending captains to the least time islands (while still being far islands) and then start to unlock
Anyways with 2.18x shiny speed multi, i still need 90 days for lvl 7 shiny shroom
Uh....
Its base time is 448 days
Stamp time?
talking about stamp...
Yeah, the elephant god bonus only affects eggs but for some reason the similarly-worded BM mechanic affects everything.
Just send your fastest captain to unlock the closest cloud, it will keep well ahead of your ability to farm the higher islands easily
I saw the rift but decided to just push lol
like a chance of getting 90% material cost reduction
yeah for now maybe you should focus on other stuff
Give it a shot
youโll have to try and get stalled, leave, then return with more account progress a few times
yeah
If you try and do it all in one go, youโve been missing out on using the lower bonuses earlier
The rift stamp bonus is a 95% discount and the atom stamp thing gives up to 90% discount
And they stack with one another, which is fantastic.
im currently stuck on the lava skull (rift 17) i left SB there for like 30 mins but no luck with a lava skull unless i need to do it manually
If you canโt get the first bonus ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Hasnโt cost you much
No, but manual can help since you can target the higher skulls
Donโt need to though
Are you still literally 0/2 for the lava skull or 1/2?
Sometimes people don't realize you need to get 2 skulls with different characters.
when you get in front of the portal you'll see the challenge
walk to portal it will show current task
i am 0/2 i couldnt even get a single lava skull
Thank you I got it
I donโt remember that
are you wiping the map fully? that is bad
Gotcha
You should be good to auto as long as you're not struggling too hard to kill mobs.
Ooooh I just unlocked the crawler map!
with divinity do i have to be afk for a whole hour to get gains? i just idked with 2 characters for half an hour and when i checked them i still had 0 divinity afterwards
doing it with SB because the SB can respawn mobs without needing to wipe the map was gonna do it with ES as well if that works and i am trying to not wipe the map of course
Yeah, you need to get 1 lava skull on 2 different characters. Can't clear it with just 1 lad.
No fractional exp
So once you get 2 exp/hr then you can check every half hour and get something
3 exp/hr = 20 minute minimums
Etc
ok cool
30 exp/hr removes that problem since minimum afk is 2 minutes
hey all
So sailing... Collect whenever you have chest or wait for archer guy passive to let them be upgraded?
If you can collect oftenish it's best to leave the SB talent completely turned off.
The chests don't get much better at higher rarity.
Every 8 hours or so usually. Morning, afternoon and evening whenever I find the time
SB talent only if youe not checking frequently
Honestly still probably better off without the SB talent at that point
I don't know any hard data on the matter, though
So does it reduce the normal chest worth or something?
Basically, with the SB talent turned off you can store a total of:
Loot Pile Size + Number of ships
With the SB talent turned on, you can store:
Loot Pile Size - 1
So you're able to obtain like ~21 extra chests from a long claim without the SB talent compared to with the SB talent. So you need to be away long enough that the rarity of those smaller number of chests is so high that it offsets the lost 21 chests.
Aah, wait that's an insane difference in chests
Then again I have 4 ships xd, but still
Yeah, 20 ships'll happen eventually
But regardless, you can see how it'll be a pretty big disparity
So I could do 13 now, but it's only storing 8
sailing tab breaks it down really well
That's very useful, thanks guys
Which skills can and can't I use my printer for? I need 75 green stacks
skills?
Is there a reason to do lower level colosseums? I mean, if I can consistently run W4 is there a reason to do W3, like it being more cost effective when considering the rewards?
2 is good for candy
farming boss cards or the colosseum exclusive monster card
still working on w2 colo for biggie
farming boss keys so you can prep vman runs
Is there a way to check how many rift kills my bb has? Wondering how long to superchow
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Ah forgot about that one
does it make sense to buy golden stop watches for faster snail mail?
I haven't been super impressed with other things you can get with trophies
if your doing all other dailies with it why not... like buying out venders and what not
i still dont have a max roll book so im saving
oh yeah, I forgot about that book
i bought the hat for +1 slab the week before and saw the book and was big sad i spent it on the hat
if i have more than 100% afk gains it's better to turn off the game instead of idling actively?
no, active gains still magnitudes better and the afk info is just misleading once in a way
so it's better to afk actively even if i'd have like 300% afk gains?
idk if that much is even possible but you know what i mean lol
not possible unless like 10k% or even more, some class have mass respawn mechanics as well as active gain multiplier (like DK orb or ES wormhome), or unique progress gain (bubo CC)
Yes, even with 400% afk gains you want someone to be active in the game.
Guys ive reached w5 , should i just put everyone on divinity or like whats my priority?
Why did i get like 8 relics and then just suddenly stop getting them?
RNG
U sure ur exploring new maps?
my old maps still have ~2 relics not unlocked yet
Ye unlucky then
I feel the same @gleaming dagger , still waiting on my fury relic
got my 1st boat to the level that i can use an artifact chance captain in stead of boat speed
Nmr 13
thanks
What happened to my shell? It suddenly turned purple...
I think I clicked on it or something...
The shell behind the ...
do you guys have a pattern to defeat nugenator?
Hey all, I'm working on green stacking monster drops, does it make sense to do that with my ES (which is coincidentally my highest lvl)
Or rather ds/bubo?
Es 100%
Once you get high enough mk and dr, es active is fast
Yeah probably print for vials cause you'd need to resample so often otherwise
if you need vman prints for a greenstack its probably just better to wait with the greenstack
yeah okay, then I'll continue like this
I just figured that since you're activing anyways, why not get a char that gets mega benefits from being active
e.g., bubuo
That's definitely something to keep in mind
ES is useful but doesn't provide other benefits, getting stuck on it is arguably a trap
ES is also your choice for max vials unless you want to burn through all your candy. Be sure to have best mats bag on ES cause he fills that hella fast
I thought 20k mat cap was good for a couple hours
Nope, came back in an hour to a lagging laptop
Yeah i have max bags an my ES needs like 15-20 min for full inv
And no companion for storage so that's all gone too
Es is not the best option for max vials
vman print is the best option for max vials
On speedrun yes.
just makes the vial process much easier and effortless
also lets you active a usefull class
But since you need 1 mil portal kills anyways might aswell do them on a vial material mob
citringe and stilthed seekers Es mighe come in handy
tho id argue to not even use it there
Citringe vial is easy maxed when doing SB plunder (which should be done anyway at citringe)
so close yet so far
next week for sure
I'd have settled for slug
At least you don't have to return to town to get some item anymore
I didn't before either ๐
Fml tower defence just bugged out
At least it didnt close from lag
Called out 110-120 all up as usual, and then it just decides to keep sending waves after 120
Tbh it's probably the buggies mechanic in game
And it's been over 10 pulls now
i have 8 beans i think
I have around 15 moltis
why oh why is it only once a week and for green gems
itiswhatitis
lava needed money
cant wait for companion batch 2 dropping
old players have so many gems from all the farming so need to paywall some power increase
even a 10% chance for a green gem to drop from bosses wouldve been nice
aren't there people with like tens of thousands boss keys
Nah lava just personally hates you
Acutal max chance is 70%, even if it displays higher, other than that its bad rng
bosskeys is easy
Is the wiki recipe cooking time capped at 10B?
i got like 40k w5 bosskeys
so if bosses would drop green gems you could just sit there for few days and get doot and then lava is sad because no ๐ฐ
yeah
colo w2 seems to be bugged - the new monsters don't spawn for around 30s after i kill them all.
but that would make it farmable atleast
midas on?
theres your problem
the skilling resources in w2 count as enemies so the next waves don't spawn until they disappear
they take about 20 seconds to despawn, and do this by having a hidden hp stat that slowly drains
midas...increases that hp
Almost everything in the game is a mob coded in some way
its intended 
@thin rose why did you ping me?
im not sure why he pinged you @finite sparrow
@finite sparrow
@tacit tulip what's the pet power required to do wurms spice with 5 pet slots?
see w4 chat
There's no real power limit but it's gonna take a few hours if you do go down that route
You'd be better off trying to unlock 6 slots
Mine was about 20k when I did it
Can't man, I play on browser and it freezes at 110+ wave everytime
At 20k pow it took 4.5 hours
Guess I can keep it before sleeping and be done while I wake up 
I have 15k pet power
There's a few things you can do to reduce lag
Oh, I'm listening
Disable all cooking tables and take off all pets from fenceyard
Ok, I can try it today
Try to take away any moving thing u can from the map
Even if it's off screen
It will still lag
I need a mage to fight king doot that can craft the summon item . If you can plz text me in private
If you crash on pet battles, it is almost certainly because you have auto cast on badum
so regarding the forge, do you get just as many bars from 2 min afk on archer as you get using 1 hour candies? I am asking as a lazy guy who would prefer just candying
Make sure to not have badum auto cast, only manual hold down to cast that ability, otherwise it escalates too fast and causes lag
and if the forge fills up, do I have to manually empty it before cotinuing candy?
Forge wonโt fill up, no cap on the bar side. And yes, a 1hr candy will almost certainly be the same as a 2 min claim as long as you have more then like 1m kph
Actually think only need like 300k or something
So again back to construction. Endgame board still focus on player exp? even if I have total exp > 1000 for account?
Good morning everyone!
How do I make it as manual?
-27 post office box. wait what
Double Vial got disabled?
Some Vial gives boxes
Shouldnt be disabled i havent touched anything ๐ฎ
oh well it is. vial doubler is off whut
what is given can be taken away
shouldnt be against consent tho
tell that to the bank 
nah they scare me
what is it, i'll try to help ^^
is the 100,000 sec of progress on cranuim cooking a matter of sheer damage/talen level (and thus seconds)?
Or is there a different way of getting that
I can get to about 20k doing 2 arenas before it runs out
Alchemy bubble (cranium cooking one),Proper set up of skills, tremur worm if you can or oranges if not strong enough
Skull-Aura-Revive-Ghost Fart skill should be your auto attack bar
get the second Glove for better scattering of the aura skill
and pump this CC skill to max along with aura, get this alchemy bubble to good bonus % and you can eventualyl reach it quickly
i just did a printer goes Brrr with sandshark sample on, they havent moved...
why second glove?
had to refresh game, weird
Second glove more stats and quicker attack
get closer to ennemies
since the spear doesnt multi-hit for other than warrior
oh what
iโve been using spear for cranium
spear used to be the go-to for the cleave to hit multiple mobs. Lava took that away, so everyone moved to gloves
^
sand shark vial done! fluff ball about to be done!
time for quenchie/Stiltseer items
nice!
5k to go
mine is 3950 for nowq
I'll be stopping at 20k, dont wanna take weeks to get to 30 when I have other stuff to prep for for w6
i farmed lot of DK for some greenstack
how do you make your bar production batch size bigger?
other than upgrading the forge
Should 10th be BB or Barb? Whats your rec? Have 2ES and 2DK
7 lucky lad left before 75!
Can someone help me beat doot for the first time I need a mage if you can go to server pizza 5
Bb is barbarian
Bubo is the mage
@zinc torrent im there
Ye i meant SB
ok
But i guess ill go SB ?
If you have 3 of each warrior, mage and archer, you are good
If not, choose the one for 10th that you are missing
If you have, 10th should be vman
@zinc torrent be quick tho pls
when do you guys think w6 is coming out? I know its not anytime soon but Im just wondering what people are thinking
It'll either be just before christmas, like w5, or sometime in the new year
lava will probably be aiming for christmas as that's a big time for gaming
yeah for sure, christmas is huge
People off from school/work -> more people online -> Drives engagement -> Profit
@fallen torrent im waiting to my friend
tell him to hurry haha, i am a bit busy ๐ฎ
How do i get cotton candy recipe? The one shown at wiki doesn't work
its him
IE should be more accurate
*sigh' so i'm guessing i have to afk w5 cards for resources
Is there a hotkey for using pens? I have over 2300 pens and using them is a real pain
bruh how do i get innnnnnnnnnn
drop the golden eye on the stone
just 1 dont forget to pick the rest if you have a stack of multiple
mobile is the hotkey for using pens
finger it 
Fingers OP
What if recipe says 0% success chance
it does not sendddd
chat something in the game for doot to appear
kids asking their parents for an idleon bundle for christmas ๐ญ
"I want an Idleon gift card for christmas santa"
me
daddy give me doot for Christmas
translation...daddy give me 1k $^^
Allll I want for Christmas, is dooooot
special Christmas discount will make it 999.99 
maybe
Would probably need a screenshot of what it's showing to advise. not done any recipes in like a year ๐
probably just needs to increase his new recipe chance as well as upgrade his first kitchens luck
As long as you can see the shadow of it when making it it should be possible
Yup i put the spices shown at IE and i can see the shadow of cotton candy
oh oh....w6 means new recipes for cooking too.....and more importantly...new spices....sh.it
i hate spice fights....
that's just speculation, we don't actually know if lava is going to add new meals or fights. only thing we have to go off of is the achievement and missing meal slots
will the last two deities become useful with w6?
how does this work if you have two characters at the same low level?
and the exactly 3 missing slots for plates in cooking
and the 1 missing spice in cooking tables ๐
achievements arent an indicator
Picks one of them idk how it picks
just look at the lab nodes achievement
exactly, just because it's showing in game doesn't mean lava is going to add it.
right, yeah, I was saying it's one spice at most
not that there definitely will be one
lava has to be real careful with cooking anyway
any small changes will cause cooking speed to explode again
yeah if he adds more without making it significantly harder to obtain we'll just finish all meals to 60
new plates -> Vman talent, diamond chef, atom cooking
New talents -> vman talent
there are so many things in the game rn its so hard to balance
i still need to know where i should push the 100k ladles in^^
I picked the 10 things that were closest to levelling up lol
likely turkeys i think
^ this is what i did as well
Im hard pressed to say lava wonโt add more meals
He even has a meal name ready for bobjoe
i mean i guess he could just say fuck it though and just add that last meal and be done with it too though
Final meal bobjackpepper
I wouldn't complain if he did
Why does my game sometimes uses candy or ladles with 1 click only
But other times need double click?
dont you need to hold it
I've wasted hundreds of hours progress because of this garbage
I think you just dont understand how it works
guess it just depends on how he feels about the w6 skills since he added meals to buff the w5 ones
I just used my whole ladles stack by clicking them to send to chest
At least i got candy recipe now
why should I not drink tap water
i guess he hold too long
Apparently you clicked too long
Nah it was just 1 simple click. Other Times i try to hold and it doesn't use
I prefer water out of a plastic bottle too, the microplastics taste really good
Why is active ES better than active DK for W3 statues? Are crystals less reliable in W3?
i dont know the real numbers cuz it doesnt show, but on offline screen its like this with my farming build
not everyone lives in america where tap water is often chlorinated
w3 crystal mobs don't drop the w3 statues
Itโs because the statues are on the base drop table and not the rare drop table
id say in my country tap water is a lot healthier than bottled water
Also what sakori said
Oh, that's lame
had forgotten the prayer
Alright, so I just got the bear god, and on all my characters it says unlink for both bear and snake gods, but when I go to the lab it doesn't show anyone as active... what am i doing wrong..?
@finite sparrow care to elaborate
Resampled and got 500m logs. That was double what i had previously. Progress ๐ช
in my country tap water is the most regulated
Tap water is dog water
"unlink" shows when you linked to any god. That suggests to me you're linked to snake.
Can you try pressing unlink for me - it'll bring up a separate unlink screen which shows you which gods everyone is linked to
youre american?
do you enjoy drinking microplastics
I guess I have candy I can burn for W3 statue farming ๐
People do much worse stuff everyday
are you in one of these countries
Thank you, that would be it, all my characters are linked to snake
don't forget to unlink multiple people at once. You can only go through the unlink process 2 times a week
there is an all time low in testosterone in men which is mostly caused by such a high intake in microplastics, you might want to watch that
so if you do 1 at a time, you'd mess it up ๐
thats an assumption not a fact
its tested no?
nop
how come fertility is so low
I probably shoulder press more than you squat so i'm fine
20Kg
LMAO
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I drink bottled water and I'm a ultragigachad sooo
I dont doubt that at all
It's on the internet bro
I love microplastics I just wish they were macro
eat a credit card
Ok
Isn't it the other way around? There's a study that drinking tap water lowers testosterone and made male frogs ovulate
When using candy for statues does class matter at all? Or should I just be farming them on whatever character still needs the 100k statue drops for the kapow statues?
I guess it does really depend on the country youre in
It made frogs gay?
I need some of that
i drink filtered water. Its safe to drink tap water where i live but u still want to remove some microparticles of dust, minerals and subsequent microorganism from tubulation from it '.'
yeah thats really good
Just don't filter too much
idk I cant really say anything bc I drink a litre of coke zero daily, I was just wondering what his reasoning was behind the no tap water
its a basic filter, just to remove big particles
cant have it removing those minerals!
minerals mmmm
I drink 2 cans of regular coke a day, so you've got me beat ๐
hahaha noooo not the sugar
i chew on rocks for fun
Last time i drank coke was like 8 years ago
hows your teeth
Now i just snort it
I keep trying to switch to Coke Zero and I just can't do it
no reason to switch to coke zero tho
It's that extra gasoline
its just my silly little addiction
It's the calories that get me
yeah but I get it, its hard to switch off of it when youve drank it for so long
sometimes I go for a while and convince myself that zero is just as good. And then I take a sip of sweet sugar-full coke and I relapse hard
are you drinking mexican coke or something
no, but that's even better
ice cold mexican coke from a glass bottle
Europe's coke is different to American too
yeah Im european so I wouldnt know abt american coke
Believe it's closer or the same as the Mexican one
oh I should add that I only drink coke out of a glass with ice. I'm boujie like that lol
how classy
aspartame's hazard and risk assessment changed to a higher level this year, but WHO wouldnt dare tell trillionaries companies to change its formula on food, so they just said "hey, we are seeing that it kills people but no alarm, keep it up
no refridgerator?
Mc Donalds coke tastes better than coke from other places. That's what i heard in some podcast
omg mcdonalds coke
Because of the way it is stored or something
more sirup in it
mcdonalds coke is on another level
the poverty and the uncleaned lines add extra flavor to maccas coke
mmm
If this is a response to me about a glass with ice, yes I have a fridge, I just prefer drinking out of a glass, and I like the feeling of ice against my lips
damn, I need a coke now
yeah a lot of people assumed its due to the metal packaging but I think its due to the carbonation and syrup levels
mc coke has more coke sirup in it compared to normal coke
$70 a gram, slid on my dms
doesnt matter how cold my fridge is I will always want to add ice to my coke
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I love watching it pour and fizz up. It's like foreplay
all about the asian carbonated drinks, they have so many good flavors too
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I wish I could go to like an asian 7/11 or something
and get those cups with ice
and pick random drinks in those bags
and weird flavors! so cool
my wife and i are turbo weebs so we order stuff online too much. we just had a 24 pack of apple/strawberry/melon/yogurt drinks that were so good
was it for a decent price?
i honestly can't even drink american soda anymore, it's just too heavy and my teeth feel disgusting after
bc its import and stuff
not bad thats like a monster
yeah
that sounds really good what brand was it
Milkis
Now that i have all w4 meals, what's the best meal to cook?
i usually drink a c4 and a v8 everyday
it looks really interesting
usualy cabbage/corn
do people filter out bronze obols from drop tables? Scrapping them is starting to get annoying
anything for meal speed is usually a big priority, then stuff like skilling efficiency
but usually you just go down the list
the peach one looks fire
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yes, especially for long active sessions because it's super time intensive lol
Anyone know what would cause my game to freeze overnight when running SB? Haven't had it happen with DK or bubo before.
im surprised it happened to your sb and not bubo
Me too!
explosions ๐
there will be a time u will be filtering all obols haha
I only have 3 kitchens upgraded. Should i get more from gem shop?
I don't consider them a necessity
if you have the gems to spare but its not a priority
there is better things to spend gems on
Majority of your cooking speed comes from the first few tables
especially with how much meal speed you can get from vman now
41.4M% cooking Spd
vman + super chows were such an insane boost to cooking
how many gems do you have to spare bc theres a lot of better things
plus you'll want a good chest of gems for w6 stuff when it comes (not that we know when)
I have 500 gems
i wouldnt spend gems while lava works on w6
True i'll save gems for w6
I still have hundreds of keys of each boss aswell to farm gems
it's usually pretty impactful to be able to get gemshop stuff for brand new skills to help jump start
your days of candy went up
went down ๐
oh shit
i just candied one of the w3 statues for onyx
I just hope i can use candy on w5 when w6 comes out
am I getting close
usually you'll be able to
good that i dont need onyx anymore^^

I have many chars behind
D:
i have 3k 1 hr
gotta grind them up
cheater
being able to rotate characters through w5 will give you tons of levels especially if you go full crystal/active them for awhile
my 8-10s were super neglected and then when i was blessed with doot rng i gave them each a day in active w5 and they jumped by like 150 levels
I have no doot rng
doot haver...
I sold my car to try get doot. Didn't work
it's still worth trying to go for 3k or so for the obol slot but 5k is a big reach, especially with w6 pending, if you weren't already relatively close to it, it's not worth going for
since if exp scaling in w6 will be anything like the enormous jump w4 to w5 was, level 5k is going to be a joke
@slender sandal how many gems you got saved up for w6
only 1200, but i have 10k kruk keys to use at some point ๐
just need to throw on some anime episodes or watch some youtube and mindlessly farm for a day
good luck with that
and also colos
blue gems is usually more of a function of how much time you're willing to spend
or money
well yeah adult card can always fix it too
w6 might be a few days farming gems depending on how many I need 

ive got 2.5k rn idk if I should save up more or just let it be for now
at last chiz is super easy too
too bad pens aren't on there too
i just can't be bothered to spend 30k pens even though it'll help
I would rather end myself than start on the pens pile
lmaoo thats why you keep up with thenm
your wrists* can't bring yourself to do it
I cant get myself to resample
i didn't sample a couple things i should have last time i did it so i need to for the 27 vial thing but ugh
especially since i need to vman mob sample too
are the money ring and boots worth or does gmush just vastly outscale them eventually?
they're a grain of sand in the gmush ocean
thanks haha
Use it to buy lab gems, if you dont have em all yet
After w6, you never know the price of the new upgrades lol
how many gems do we think we need to buyout the shop on w6 release?
where can i find the cog optimizer?
https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/
that one?
afaik its outdated
Mostly just cog layouts are very simplified these days
Point the pointy exo cogs to DK
Put the non point exp cogs everywhere else
!!!!! pickle reminder! Remember to buy your pickles! !!!!!
how high should i go guys
48 double cogs gonna take ages
its not that bad actually when you get going
15 mins
really depends on how much care you've given construction
more than 15 mins most likely
if you're not 1, or even 2 ticking a purple cog I'd imagine it's hell on earth
11 ticks with 94m rate ๐บ
Move squires to purple cogs if you havent yet
Yeah got them both in optimal place
Define optimal
to the moon
333k would be nice
surrounded by the 8 cogs and in line with the directional boosters
yeah just as well he asked
Ok so now put them in purple cogs
put the DKs on the purple cog bar
it'll speed up
just remember to take them off again once you're done
Thatโs why i was so confused. I was like- thereโs no optimal solution for cog building 
Yup
At that point you just click until full, then delete the bad ones
until you have enough
nah, max level among all cahrs
thats not a problem
Active on a dk/warrior class makes the other dk has double speed and exp
still got 400m speed on SB
You dont get any boost if not on warrior class tho
yeah, but the character you're active on is still halved
bubo will get reduced exp while active
Getting about 250m a day here, so this should be done tomorrow
then just 2 left to do
what is this scam
for quests like this, active kills don't count multikills
but afk ones do - you wanna afk that quest ๐
nooooo it will take ages then
also DN is account wide and quest is char
yeah I'm just assuming this is their first char to moles
yeah
otherwise the issue would have presented itself sooner ๐
just saying haha
could also be you on 2m+ because vman is buggy with moles map
the game often thinks you have like 10 mole kills too early and vman speedrun sets him to 2 mil on that map
there is no rush with the quest
active farmed for like a day now so i think 2m is reasonable number
if they're on 30k it's probably basic MK at any rate
he said active
no mk also nothing to afk gain
either way you're now at the point where you're prepping for world 6 ๐
huh neat, 30k with no MK is pretty good for that stage of the game
alot of points into kpk talent i guess
i would suggest working on other stuff atm
yeah, you're at the boss now which means you're basically ready for world 6
pushing portal for no reason won't help you
fwiw 1 point into the boomerang skill isn't a terrible idea
just to get the upgraded mobs hit with it
(it's also hilarious to get it to 300 but you can't afford that :D)
also you dont need more than 1 point into respawn talent
Certainly instead of Divine Intervention. Only gives minor crit rate after the first point
book your symbols of beyond and keep it at multiples of 20
10/10
thanks everyone
i got construction master just openend, it says + 100 levels for books, but its still goes to 195.
it doesent say + 100 lvl for books
One of the most common mistakes players make lol
Its for the library construction levels
Anyone have the divine knight level breakpoint list for the slashes?
so I can build libary 100 levels more
The snake skin flask, or statue doubles, does that chance apply per deposit, or per statue in each deposit?
Per stack deposited
per deposit
Wiki lets you play with the talent levels to see the bonuses if thats what you are looking for
Unfortunately, I don't recall the rate that the knightly disciple throws out the shockwaves, and I can't find that info on the wiki
All it shows is how long it lasts. I remember someone had a list of breakpoints for levels for additional slashes, but I can't seem to find that anymore
Ok i get u now, prob just need to time it. I do remember seeing someone say there was a sweetspot for the final shockwave, but that may have been before the vman boost
Perfect, thank you so much
Every 4 seconds duration, starting from 13. tldr should be multiple of 4, with 1 added at the end.
Vman is +20 so no issues there. Already divisible by 4.

Thatโs way back when I started

Weird. The formula you gave, and the one from Meis back in the day, do not seem to line up. For example, 107 is 26.05 seconds, which 25 is not divisible by 4
reaching 500 will soon be way easier
Yeah im waiting for w6 even with my 20k
So i shouldnโt grind grind time
still do it
20k is the earliest I'd even consider it
to stop?
I could be wrong ๐คท 25 seconds is expected for me - Statue starts by taking 1 second to windup, then slashes every 4 seconds was my understanding. Therefore take 1 second off the top (25-1=24), then it should be divisible by 4.
I get around 300k seconds in criumum cooking i will get more water than
i think my record was around 350k
I get about 350k with this
ok someone mentioned that earlier - 3 screenshots sent but only 1 arrived, sec
nice
Before Slug, I was averaging about 375k. Rift Slug shot me up to ~450k. Talent level 283 -> 309 makes a huge difference.
slug?
The companion
ah that
lmao that crop
anyone have around 1b oak sample can show me your bubbles?
Should i work on ot
omg this hurts my soul. http://puu.sh/JUUgA/3cee4d223e.png
soon going to work toward ruby card
got some vial to finish first
@sweet pine i can show oyu mine, i reached JUST barely oak sample
kk thanks
i meant base, you at 550
550?
Scroll down lol
that is sakori not me
???
is there a sampel leaderboard somewhere? ๐ฎ
used to be, until the dootening

CaMp is working on a replacement leaderboard right now
what influences the exp of cogs? I got some ~100% but most at ~70 and I seem to be sort of capped
your highest characters div level
Highest construction level of any single character
is there a formula?
Not that I'm aware of
it's a never ending fight for more construction level so noones ever documented it
it's just...more
If it is any reference, my highest is 952 and my highest cog is 182%
I don't click cogs often any more though. I've probably had that 182% since ~800 or so
i have 4 70+ % cogs, and today randomly got a 114 % cog
good luck ^^
the shape of the cog is a factor, too
i do get some highs one now
more complex cogs get more random stat rolls, so if they hit exp multiple times they end uyp with more
this will take, i think...2 months?
got nothing under 80% on my board now
i think its bugged on purple. i have nothing but the bad purple cogs on my exp % cogs for some reason. Never had the other ones (directionals mb)
its just more rare ^^
can I trash the double ulti cogs after finishing the equinox dream with 48 of them or is there a more "advanced" version of it which requires even more?
Yeah, nothing after those and we have no idea when the expansion to equinox will be
right after the rift expansion
Rift has already been expanded once ๐
thanks
Onyx Statues give a boatload of Tool Power, compared to the bubble these days
Well yoiu know, it doesnt go up in % much there
idk what is the cap lv of the bubble
i got to world 5 kinda recently and im wondering what i should do?
i just resampled and it worked
primarily divinity and some backtracking (credit: Trickz)
sacrfifice your chars@hoary oracle
7 lucky lad left.
to divinity?
yes
okay
keep 1 active...es, dk or bubo
how many animal divinity things are there i have 2 rn
his bubbles also doesn't account for his afk gains for his sample either, you're probably going to need more afk gains then you've got
There's 10
The last two don't do anything yet
The 8th one isn't very useful, ether
i guess two last god will be using W6 ressources to upgradew
I record basically everything during my samples ๐
You can check out my Logs 2023-10-12
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AYl8fAqHkxDoXhINAjO3MiSOB-W2ZUtH9TVhA5w-tK4/edit?usp=sharing
nvm what i just said
it will boost for next ressources
Scoli Doc was really useful for me to not forget anything as well
Yeah, I fully expect badger to be w6 buffer
Hoping he works like purr
Or the dootless are going to be in pain
yeh
gotta set up a data matrix and pivot that into a dashboard
probably missing some, but can work on that
badger one free companion roll per day ^^ atleast one can dream
wouldve been nice but limited of use
does equinox bar fill time ever get ridiculous? or even towards the end its still like a fill a day or something?
I'm sure it gets ridiculous
There was a spreadsheet somewhere that gave time to completion
it gets ridiculous but everything currently avbailable is doable in a reasonable time
it was around 3 months for everything i think
that may have been without some of the equinox speed boosts too
How To Use
To be able to edit this sheet create your own copy of it by pressing File => Make a copy
Edit only yellow cells (put your numbers there)
Where to get those numbers
Equinox fill rate,Bottom right of the Equinox Mirror screen. If it shows the skill info
just deselect that skill.
Curren...
Does anyone else have a bug with the Equinox valley were you come back and were "2 mins gone" except that you we're 3 days afk? xD
No afk
missed teh no afk sign huh
lol
Not a bug. There is literally a sign on the ground that says No AFKing
funny
Ah bruh my bad
not the first no worries lol
Use prints for resources
That was some time well spent
47d for me
But that is including bonuses I can't even actually purchase lol. 200 Gstacks RIP
thanks
i can skip the lab one at least. the meal on is kinda useless till late game?
69
I think the meal is pretty decent to take up to 5 at least
But yeah it isn't often we're going to go 14 days without using a ladle. Maybe I'm not deep enough into cooking lol
im assuming it resets on ANY meal upgrade, not a specific meal, in which case i upgrade something daily at the moment, so would never really accumulate. i can see it being powerful for those last few levels on end game though
Correct, resets on any use. Similar to the Stamp reducer atom
Quick Question: which map is the best for cranium cooking? Need these 100.000 Seconds, my skill is level 305 does this even Work?
You should be way above 100k at level 305 skill, yes
citrines or tremor worms
^
Max i got was 60.000 Seconds...
if you cant do tremor citrines
Check out this post: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1165326429102280735
Thanks !
did you upgrade cranium roadkill bubble?
I think yes should be around Level 110
just reached W5 what should I focus on, Lab or Divinity? https://fjonn.idleonefficiency.com
Divinity until Goat, then back to lab.
with all chars?
8 or 9, yes. You can leave out 1 active farmer and your Mman/Vman skilling.
The rest go to Div jail ๐ฆ
Kinda wanna grind my Bubo now for money so i can level up my alch
Just remember that, because of no Lab, you shouldn't try pushing (no 2x kill node, no shrines)
Currently farming W1 Beans for the 20k Power Statues for Onyx (returning from 4mo break) and running into an overflow of obols that eventually lag my game.. Is there a way to auto-convert them to fragments or only way is the Loot Filter?
No auto-convert. Filter away
this is suffering from success
I hold onto w5 pushing then
Glad he gave us 3 pages of filters
So on my ES I go for divinity exp all the way
At first I thought: great thing I got a ton of fragments
But now it's just an overflow

oh god me too please
Ah I see goat bonus is heavy
26M fluff ball vial will be completed
Greenstack when ?
Jeez ive been farming vials well
Damm did check and it was Level 1...... I tough these level up with the bubbel Thing every day
Only bubbles level 5 and higher are targeted by NBLB
Does Specialized EXP work with Divinity EXP?
That bubble is very easy to level though, since it is just logs. It should never be on your NBLB list
As often as possible, bubbles on your NBLB list should be poopy materials, like Refinery Salts, Critters, Souls, anvil materials, Spices, sailing treasures
tldr if its easy to level, level it, if its shit to level, let NBLB level it for you?
for mages yeah
260 gems left before next Gemshop Cog
Unfortunately that also means leveling bubbles beyond their useful limits, because they become the new lowest eventually ๐ฆ
for all mages or just ES?
all
oh, good to know
the games a bit weird about it, but in general if a class specialises in something, the other version does too
for example BM is considered specialised in bugcatching even though it's an SB skill
I've always had it leveled but I thought it was just for the class specifically
i see it as more the class as a whole gets the bonus
is divinity exp shared within the account?
we can't post invites in here so it's a bit awkward. I can pm you the invite link if you want
Sure
Thanks did check all bubbels and there were few on Level 3-4
God dang i love this chat, it feels like a place i belong ๐ being here chatting around on the game and advancing feels great
yooo me also
17/20k now xD
so will do it today
finally first onyx statues today ๐
Do we have a vman speedrun guide for mob order
i wonder what my prints will be now that most guys went up to dreadlo tools, got 10's of levels on multi-bubble and also realized my vman wasn't highest level
It's going to be numbers go up -moment
i use some youtube guides cause the one in the tips channel is meh
It might be good, but man, I can't handle all that teleporting around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs67sBXTJxs&t=58s i think this is the furthest i've seen a vid of, but ppl have gotten 68 or so
was asking for a friend, I don't use them Personally
I just tp everywhere and smack mobs in the face
Completing a new Vman speedrun has been one of my goals for the last 4 weeks and I still haven't completed it
Maybe one day
im at 60 as well
Having vman over 10T is a blessing
53 here. I haven't completed one in quite a long time
gotta get that steam link goin
Is that your skilling preset?
who has vman at 10T ๐ฎ


who dont
I do 
So what's the "4" mean nowadays?
@paper sail no wonder then, your speedrun time is so low
should respec and put those class xp points into first talent
i probably have like 10k or something
......
Just a crystal farming spec lol
No point in me wasting 200+ points in 1st talent all the time
Interesting
I am aware to reset before I actually try a speedrun
Yeah I did 55 in the first week of vman then just never touched it again 
noob moment
True, I am terrible
I barely have 10Q damage
if scoli's bot gets more popular I can see idle efficiency increasing the minimum time for public profiles updates
i love scoli's boot
scoli's booty 
Have you found companions yet? @paper sail
Nope. No idea on how Companions are kept
I can't find them in IE or IT's JSON despite both sites knowing

JSON import is 
i was gonna say that the data is kept server side only but then remembered the other sites know







