lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[keen rapids]

Translate?

[potent maple]

scoli's advice for leaving companion behind, i'm attached to my sheepie and don't want to make it sad

[keen rapids]

The sacrafice you gotta make

Potentially have the game freeze or be happy and have a cute sheepie D;

[potent maple]

i refuse. i'll do other stuff but not that

i don't suffer from it too much, just every once in a while

[keen rapids]

So are you saying the game freezes or flashbangs or what? ;o

[prisma void]

straight up just freezes and gotta restart

[teal lynx]

Never will I leave him behind - I rather lose 10 hours of gains

[keen rapids]

That's weird ;o

Any sort of error code?

[prisma void]

doesnt seem to be one

[keen rapids]

You on pc or phone O-o

[bold quiver]

thats what happens when i play mobile

[potent maple]

i don't get one, just white screen on PC

[cyan bone]

Same, it just stops and closes

[prisma void]

it doesnt crash with an error the game is still open but it just freezes on a frame and stays like that till i wake up and close out then restart

[obtuse rover]

I've had both freezes where the screen locks up and white-screen flashbangs on PC

[keen rapids]

Won't even open for me on mobile it just instantly closes itself

[prisma void]

and this on PC

[sacred verge]

now what SB skills contributes the most when going for plunderkills?

[keen rapids]

your gpu drivers up to date? o_o

[prisma void]

ye

[potent maple]

being able to oneshot em

[sick sentinel]

I had to turn off friend popup notifications on steam before, used to make me freeze all the time

[prisma void]

i only have a 2080 super tho so maybe its just struggling? xD

i think all notifications are disabled

[sacred verge]

which one to 245 book?

[keen rapids]

No man

[paper sail]

[sick sentinel]

All of em

[keen rapids]

Flat out no lol

[prisma void]

xD

[sick sentinel]

Probably bombs tho if you already did gatling

[keen rapids]

Maybe next time it happens go into even viewer and see if there is an error code

Event*

[prisma void]

alright will do

[keen rapids]

and then go based off whatever that error code says if there is one.

[bold quiver]

@sick sentinel do u get desync with DK farming? i find so weird that i keep getting it but not on bubo or es

[sick sentinel]

I do

[potent maple]

get this on vman to I think lvl 40 at least as well

so that you get this on your SB

[keen rapids]

For every 25 lvls these are the perks 😄

[sacred verge]

i got that

[keen rapids]

Is level 250 even possible? mines only 245 atm

[sacred verge]

what i ment was which one would matter the most, piercing arrow, homing arrows or firebomb. somehow only firebomb pic came tru

[cyan bone]

245 is max skill level right? And it's not possible to get the higher level gear in dungeons?

[left spoke]

Should I remove Skilled Dimwit and use the opposite prayer on Bubo to get more alchemy xp ? (does it even work ?)

[obtuse rover]

245 is still the max raw book level, yes
No new gear levels have been added to dungeon, recently

[cyan bone]

Ty

[keen rapids]

What's the max level on the scroll droprate?

[edgy pendant]

What should I have on my SB talent bar for afk? Just everything? I keep hearing they are the best for afk kill counts but I must be setting it up wrongly or just not gotten to the stage they pop off

[obtuse rover]

On what, sorry?

[keen rapids]

The dungeon scrolls

[left spoke]

There is no max level iirc

[keen rapids]

Surely not?

[obtuse rover]

All that matters for AFK is having the attacks on your bar. The order shouldn't matter at all.

[edgy pendant]

So just as many attacks as possible on the bar?

And at what lvl do they stop increasing afk counts? 25?

[keen rapids]

These

[sacred verge]

does this matter for plunder kills?

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure if they need to be on the bar in order to count for the AFK formula or not, but there's no harm in having them all on there.

Also make sure you have your buffs active on you when you log out of the character.

[potent maple]

dunno if rift slug gives it +15, as I do not have slug

[keen rapids]

It doesn't.

I do have rift slug ;/

[left spoke]

I don't know if there is a formula for that, just increase the skill level and check if that increase your k/h

[edgy pendant]

Gotcha, thanks 😊

[obtuse rover]

Higher level is better, I don't think there's a cut-off.
I don't think we have any modern records on what the afk formula is exactly, but it treats the afk abilities and their talent levels as multipliers.

[edgy pendant]

Yeah that 25 number i think is years old 😅

[sacred verge]

to the guy who said "yes", please tell me how

[edgy pendant]

Ah well, I got talents to spare for everything except tab 4 anyway

[obtuse rover]

Sorry I'm not sure what the limit is

[keen rapids]

No worries

It just seems to keep going forever :/

[left spoke]

What do you mean by "matter for plunder kills" ? You want to get more plunder kills ?

[sacred verge]

yes as many as possible pr hours

obviously

[obtuse rover]

Having that coin buff last longer means more respawns which means more mob kills which means more plunder mob spawns (which helps keep the buff going).

[left spoke]

It matters because coins allow you to spawn more mobs so more chance to spawn plunder mob PLUS if you have the Vman bonus after 100 coins you use 25 coins to spawn a plunder mob

[sacred verge]

But one usually spawns a new plunder way before it runs out? am i missing something

[potent maple]

the more the better, you do want more right?

[left spoke]

It may happens or may not happens

[sacred verge]

i dont see the point in higher lvl if it never runs of

[obtuse rover]

More duration just makes sure you never suffer poor RNG dropping the buff

[left spoke]

The first plunder mob has a forgive system or whatever it's called

But not the next ones

So you want to be sure to get that bonus active all the time

[sacred verge]

it dosent even run halfway before a new one

at MR. brightside (sub optimal map)

[left spoke]

Do as you want

[potent maple]

try it out with high points in that to see how it works differently than without, might help you see for yourself if you like it

[potent maple]

as long as you're oneshotting, it's plenty optimal for your goal

[left spoke]

But get that Vman bonus if it's not done yet

[sacred verge]

i got the vman bonus ofc

[obtuse rover]

My understanding is that the pity system does work at all times

It might not be necessary to max the coin buff talent, if you truly never run out of the buff, so if you really need talent points elsewhere maybe you can use them for what you need.

For a lot of midgame or later players, they'll have enough talent points to max it anyways, but maybe you'll do better without maxing it at the point you're at.

I don't know the answer though, so you may have to verify it for yourself.

[sacred verge]

its not a lack of talent point id say

it may seem like i was mistaken for a super earlygame, i am more mid early game

[tacit tulip]

it was more important before all he buffs to SB - it's less needed now

[potent maple]

hrm i always use those stat talents, middle of the middle row...

[tacit tulip]

main benefit of the coin talent is to prevent a dry spell between flags

so you start the new flag with the buff active

[sacred verge]

what would it matter tho

[potent maple]

cuz stats are stats

but i dont think you want 308 points in the flag, you want to be able to one-shot them, you didn't say you were going for drop or exp, just plain kills

[obtuse rover]

If you don't suffer from having points in coin then go ahead and level it just in case.

That is still slightly fewer talent points than might be ideal, though. You could benefit a bit from a higher talent level in the active skills and +skill eff/Agi talent, but they're not massive priorities.

[sacred verge]

looks like this is more than enough. by the current looks of it half the time would be enough

[tacit tulip]

given you're at like 150T damage 300 falg is probably fine too

it'll only screw you if there's a flag challenge on rift 50+ once it's added

[sacred verge]

yeye 300 flag is fine with midas

[fallen torrent]

plunder is op

[tacit tulip]

but yeah, plunder mobs used to be like 1% spawn chance, no forgiveness, and no vman forced spawn at 100 coins

the coin talent was essential then because it was very easy to get a dry spell

[sacred verge]

yeah got my 10k before vman

didnt bother doing more 😛

time to get this shit going again

[tacit tulip]

now iirc it's 2% chance, 40 kill dry streak forgiveness, and 100 coins is a spawn

[fallen torrent]

2% yeah it was

[sacred verge]

atleast il ruby this shit

[potent maple]

this may be my issue, my SB has been in a box for a very long time so i'm just over here mumbling idleon boomer bullshit

back in my day, we farmed post office pens at tropilogs and were happy to get 5!

this is true btw

[tacit tulip]

it's like 22k a day now, which is 916 an hour, or 15 a minute, or like 1 every 4 seconds

[sacred verge]

looks like im getting more than 1 every 4 sec at citringe

[potent maple]

what breakpoint to people push to (considering atom collider bonus as well)

[tacit tulip]

100k is the base cause it only takes a few days

[sacred verge]

333k worth

halfway to 1 mill

[potent maple]

yeah i could get to 100k by bedtime based on the numbers you said

[sacred verge]

¨math wise

[sacred verge]

whats ur current punder kills?

[signal osprey]

Worth mentioning that 2% is the default but its doubled by vman enhancement too. People often overlook that due to the 100 coin thing being the big part of the skill

[potent maple]

~90k

[sacred verge]

seems like i need to push 200k atleast

[patent hatch]

Somone posted on the reddit 208 greenstacks

Insane

[tacit tulip]

I'm tempted to push w6 using SB for the lols

[potent maple]

makes me regret how many quests i completed on all characters

[patent hatch]

Hahah the feels aye

[sacred verge]

Contract, can you confirm. lvling up this anymore wont matter at all?

for a fairly decent SB

[patent hatch]

Will be waiting well and truly until world six for me to try and get 200

[signal osprey]

In theory it will make sure you never run out of plunder mobs but in practice yeah it doesn't do much

[chrome bison]

Oh god I don't think I tried turning off prayers before trying to do rift 38 🤦‍♂️

[signal osprey]

Its basically just bad luck prevention but you'd need really bad luck for it to matter

[potent maple]

OH OH! I have some bad luck I can share!

[sacred verge]

yeah, by the looks of it im not even close to halfway before it refreshes

[naive zodiac]

how do i get crystal mob chance up

[tacit tulip]

hover your mouse on it and it'll show you all the sources

[signal osprey]

It also somewhat depends on the map you're on as maps that are a bit more spread out and have slower kill rates are more prone to bad luck

But you also don't really do SB on any maps other than OJ or wurms

So not very important unless you're a SB main lol

[sacred verge]

didnt you ruby all w5 with ur SB?

[signal osprey]

No I rubied most of W5 with cardifiers lol

[sacred verge]

who was it that rubied w5 with SB

[signal osprey]

Only one I farmed on active SB was OJ

[tacit tulip]

someone did it - apparently someone more neutoric than contract

[obtuse rover]

Farming cards with SB sounds unpleasant.

[signal osprey]

I think it was Topbird

[sacred verge]

yeah im 100% someone claimed it

might have been

whats ur plunder count at @signal osprey ?

[signal osprey]

1m plunder was one of his pre W6 goals and he was just doing each card in W5 along the way

250k

[sacred verge]

yeah, the guy had 440k at the time

250k is impressive tho

damn

[patent hatch]

Somone posted not to long ago that they hit 1m on OJ

and it’s way better than wurms

[tacit tulip]

you mostly do wurms for the exp/keys

[sacred verge]

1m plunder, thats alot of beans down the drain

[signal osprey]

Way better is a bit of a stretch but yeah it is better

[tacit tulip]

but if you purely want plunder, OJs

[patent hatch]

Don’t take it from me it was posted on reddit and he provided numbers to back it up

[signal osprey]

Realistically OJ over wurms will save a few days off of the 2 month grind to 1m. Its not a whole lot better

[sacred verge]

id be happy making it to 333k, thats halfway to the 1mill bonus iirc

[tacit tulip]

1000 is halfway to 1mil

bloody logs

unless you mean like 5.5 then yes

[sacred verge]

i was thinking in terms of 100k -1m

but yeah

[tacit tulip]

quick post portal kills to upset contract

[signal osprey]

6%

[sacred verge]

id like to see Contracts orb score

[tacit tulip]

max talent baby

I like how I got that to 10 mil then just refused to do god ranks

[sacred verge]

i actually expected more, hehe

[signal osprey]

I know I'm bad

[sacred verge]

lol

[rough wasp]

[sacred verge]

who will you guys be pushing w6 with?

[tacit tulip]

proably bubo

[burnt sail]

Bubo most likely.

[tacit tulip]

SB if I feel spicy

get map progress and plunder mobs

[rough wasp]

BB

[tacit tulip]

BB gets the afk gear and gets to work on his super chows

realistically everyone not just stuck in lab will be pushing to the end immediately for death note purposes

[left spoke]

Wait.. Where does this 4th liquid come from ?

[tacit tulip]

it's from the choco milk factory

[sacred verge]

from the choco seed in w6

for brewing coco and coffe

[left spoke]

Noice

[tacit tulip]

it'll possibly be used in w6 alchemy but lava may also just leave it til 7

either way bubo will trivialise its existence

[left spoke]

Ok thanks, we cannot brew it yet, right ?

[tacit tulip]

aye

you can level it with money but that's all

If we're lucky equinox works on it even though it's hidden, which will be hilarious

[left spoke]

Alright, didn't miss anything then

[left spoke]

It'd be nice, but if it's not implemented yet I don't think it's the case

[tacit tulip]

yeah, that's my expectation too

I just like to get peoples hopes up

[left spoke]

Tbh I'm hyped now and I have small hopes that it'll do as you said

[tacit tulip]

Like for example: What if world 6 yellow bubble has grind time 2: Skill exp

that uses waters 3/4

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-liquid-hotmagma-gif-8100946

can we just get a cauldron with Liquid hot magma

[left spoke]

"Go to world 5 and fill it with tons of magma"

But tbh it'd be weird to add magma liquid AFTER W5

[fiery forge]

Lets goo

[obtuse rover]

We had to beat up Kruk before we could steal his bath water.

[vapid cove]

damn

[prisma void]

does total droprate increase the chance at W5 boss keys? or is it not worth it

[sacred cosmos]

Took a few weeks to hit an upgrade, but cracked the mil!

[half thistle]

Does this still apply when collecting traps via trapper drone or automation arm?

[lilac path]

what lv should it be to hv 7 auras?

[sacred verge]

wiki knows

[signal osprey]

210 would be 7 auras

Every 35 levels adds another

[sacred verge]

315 10 auras 😮

[tawny oxide]

i have liek 400 hours worth of candy any recomendations on what to use it for since i cant candy w5

[lilac path]

skilling lvs imo

[sacred verge]

gmush

[tawny oxide]

skilling on vman or in general

[sacred verge]

eclipse

[tawny oxide]

i think im quite for off from eclipse but gmush may be a good diea for more money for my bribes

[vapid cove]

bribes dont even cost as much as you'll get

[tawny oxide]

ive been jsut working on getting skill mastery with rift

[sacred verge]

probably hold candy is a good idea aswell

[slender sandal]

if you're not done with bribes yet you have far better things than gmush

[vapid cove]

there are stamps that end up costing god shards

[tawny oxide]

whats a god shard

[vapid cove]

so probably doing g mush for the coin % is nice

The highest tier of money we have right now

[sacred verge]

no reason to candy gmush with low kph

[tawny oxide]

is it the red currency or one above

[vapid cove]

the one above

[tawny oxide]

oh so save the candy untiul i have higher kph

what color is it

[vapid cove]

mix or blue red n stufff

weird color

[tawny oxide]

oh ive seen images of it

[magic gyro]

Day 4 of hanging out on the discord while my characters grind divinity to unlock goat

[potent maple]

or if you do feel your skills are lacking, this is always good to boost

[tawny oxide]

i kinda feel lost with what im doing since i got w5 boss done and feel like im kinda doing just random stuff

[potent maple]

have you finished enough of your vials for the onyx statue stuff?

like the stuff in pins

[magic gyro]

greenstacks? stamps? levels on other characters? Craft armor/weapons? Farm Obols? Alchemy? Statues?

Equinox/Rift/Islands?

[tawny oxide]

what do you mean finish my vials im unlocking them as i get the daily attempts but i dont genrate enough resopurces to max level them and im working on quinox but greenstacks are diffcult at this point

[potent maple]

yeah how's your alchemy doing?

[magic gyro]

There isnt a main focus but theres a lot of important systems.

[tawny oxide]

just maxed orange and working on maxing the others

[potent maple]

by finish vials i mean get them to level 13

[magic gyro]

Wait? You are struggling with greenstacking? Do you have Vman?

[tawny oxide]

yeah i dont genrate enough for that

[potent maple]

do you use IE?

[tawny oxide]

yes i have vman but hes still low statted

sometimes

ive used it before

[magic gyro]

Do you have a public profile we could look at?

[tawny oxide]

do you want my IE

[potent maple]

if you update that and share it here, people can give tips

there is also https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[tawny oxide]

https://deviking2.idleonefficiency.com/ i knwo alot of my stamps are behind is a big thing not sure what bubbles i should be focusing on

[potent maple]

that autoreview recommends bubbles and vials

and stamps

[magic gyro]

You should probably collect your keys, and get some levels/equipment on your other chars

So many of your people still have tab2 weapons?

[tawny oxide]

i cant really level alot of them since their stuck in lab

[slender sandal]

3 months from now i can't wait for the "hey guys just rushed to w6 what do i do now" posts 😄

the list gets longer

[sacred verge]

i hope w6 is hard enough to force rush ppl to backtrack alot

[slender sandal]

w5 portals will be nerfed so it's pretty likely people will just end up limping into w6 and then have to go back

[magic gyro]

I see. makes sense.

[slender sandal]

i could see a catchup mechanic in the future for div too

[tawny oxide]

i got them to 100 for equinox

[obtuse rover]

And we might lose our eclipse skulls when that happens, so hopefully everyone remembers to double-check when W6 comes out.

[magic gyro]

Do you have any companions?

[tawny oxide]

yes most of them except doot rift slug and one of the lower ones

[slender sandal]

you should be able to rotate characters out and throw them at suggmas for a bit and get a bunch of levels

[sacred verge]

why would we lose eclipse skulls?

[tawny oxide]

i need to work on it since my rift needs 3 chars to clear it but only 2 can do it

[obtuse rover]

When Lava reduces the kills needed for a portal unlock in a world, you lose deathnote progress on each character equal to the amount the portal is reduced by.

[sacred verge]

thats some stupid shit

[slender sandal]

[magic gyro]

Ok yeah IE has a lot of green stamps. You can get some decent stats that way, and it will boost sampling too. (Green means you have the materials and someone with enough inv space to level it)

[sacred verge]

actually matters a bit on the last mobs

[magic gyro]

For Bubbles Shaqracy and FMJ are always solid

[sacred verge]

10M portal will be 100m loss

[tawny oxide]

Oh wow I misunderstood I though green meant it was good and red meant it was low that makes a lot more sense

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, and no one spends more time on crawlers than they really need to, so that could be a common lost skull

[sacred verge]

yup

[potent maple]

your anvil production could use some TLC, both money points and mob drop points

[night holly]

Are there 72 chows? or 73?

Is the office a chow map and it just doesn't show up on IT?

[magic gyro]

Ah! I can see why that might be confusing

[tawny oxide]

I’ve been focusing others since defense and accuracy seem less of an issue now and raw damage is more useful

[tawny oxide]

I was always so confused like I can’t fix these stamps you want me to now I can go quickly do that

[magic gyro]

Fair enough, If you 100% accuracy and survivability for everything, no need for either of those, but if you die active farming w5 maybe toss some into fmj

Do you make sure to have No bubble left behind lit on daily reset? Thats Free Alchemy bubble levels

[tawny oxide]

Yes I always do I’m working on sailing so I can get the big red bubble leveled more

[magic gyro]

Good stuff

[tawny oxide]

And I thinks it’s up to 6 or 7 bubbles

[obtuse rover]

Up to 9-10, depending on RNG and unlocks

[tawny oxide]

I’m missing 2 from gaming and I think 1 from dialing

[magic gyro]

Yeah so obviously unlocking the final bubbles and vials is important (But highly timegated lol)

[polar light]

Excess accuracy is good for a talent that gives crit based on accuracy

[tawny oxide]

yes but im focusing on htting multkill teirs

[fast grail]

Daily reminder to not neglect FMJ

[vapid cove]

you know it need the big numbers

[magic gyro]

Your samples seem low. I know its a huge pain, but it might be a good idea to redo a lot of them. And make sure when you do that you equip all the best gear, talents, bubbles, starsigns, food etc for the think you are sampling

[rough wasp]

250'd

[magic gyro]

You can even pass the good gear from char to char while sampling if you dont have enough for everyone to have their own

[stable kayak]

Good evening guys, to kill the 4th frog, how do you get the enough Items for it to spawn?

[lyric sequoia]

Game crashed 3 hours ago when I wasn't looking and now an hour short on the boat statues I need

[magic gyro]

Drop rate boosts

Getting to 4 requires good drop rate

[fast grail]

Don’t slack on DR. Normally for me 2.5 before you go up to final platform is normally enough

[stable kayak]

Ohhh, I dont have but the Grumblo for that ... I need to farm more cards then, Thanks!

[magic gyro]

Yeah you will definitely want to boost samples. Im sure you can push those higher with talents/gear. Plus you might be able to free up some spots to sample resources needed for alchemy vials/bubbles that are giving you trouble

[potent maple]

you can get it on ring/pendant too

[tawny oxide]

can i sample rare drops like glass sahrds

[magic gyro]

unfortunately no, just base drops

[fast grail]

Make sure to take the dungeon trait that gives you 1% Dr per grey item, and always choose the drop rate claw item, and dice if you find them

[loud furnace]

how to get poing on gaming world 5

[stable kayak]

Thank you!
And talking about something else, is there anything special to be done in order to be able to kill this guys?
Im level 359, and that life was in 4 hits

[magic gyro]

You could also try to get some shiny pets if you arent already. They tend to give buffs too

[potent maple]

mor dmg

[fast grail]

Level is irrelevant, you need damage

[stable kayak]

FMJ is the bubble right?

[sacred verge]

if you cant survive its better to not even try killing them

you lack so much its not time well spent

[tawny oxide]

im timegated on bredding levels

[magic gyro]

makes sense

[stable kayak]

Ohhhh something I have not done is use the upgrade stones ... like NEVER , any recommendation for the Gear?

[magic gyro]

what gear are you currently using @stable kayak

[sacred verge]

[stable kayak]

Or...

[magic gyro]

W5 has some decent upgrade stones in the shop.

[sacred verge]

for real, do yourself a favor and dont push w5 more

its no reason at all for you to push

[magic gyro]

+10 Defense and +6 Main Stat

Or +5 weapon power and +5 main stat

[stable kayak]

Wdym?

[magic gyro]

Its probably not going to fix your problem entirely, though

[sacred verge]

pushing portals is bad

[magic gyro]

How are your divinity levels and supporting skills?

[sacred verge]

you will gain nothing by pushing

[sacred verge]

also BB kinda sucks

😄

[magic gyro]

Is your lab setup well too?

[stable kayak]

That is something I have never understand that well... but Kinda

[sacred verge]

that lab needs help

[magic gyro]

Ok, im not certain about this one, so someone step in if im wrong, but Shouldn't the ES have amarock necklace at least?

[sacred verge]

grab more or less everything you can at lab

6 ppl in lab minimum

[magic gyro]

and yeah, you will want to have pretty much all lab stuff lit up

[sacred verge]

you need to work on everything before w5, not w5

besides Div and sailing

[summer basalt]

Is there a place where we can see our big nugget chance? I've invested a few points into the upgrade in equinox, but I'm not sure where my bonus chance is at.

[sacred verge]

the only thing you need from w5 is town atm

nothing else

[magic gyro]

@stable kayak Do what Zanna is saying with necklaces for your guys

[stable kayak]

All the active ones?

[sacred verge]

he is far far from divine scarf

[magic gyro]

yeah

[sacred verge]

and tooth aswell probably

[magic gyro]

Amarock pendant for mages into Chizo is doable

[sacred verge]

chiz scarf he can get, divine scarf not even close

i missred

[stable kayak]

Well I do have enough for all my chars

[magic gyro]

Amarok is best for mages because it has a lot of intellect. its less critical for other classes iirc

[sacred verge]

Get working on alchemy, stamps, and more or less everything before w5

its not about the gear

getting a new pendant wont help if you dont invest into the stuff that matters

[magic gyro]

For other characters try to farm chizoars scarf

[sacred verge]

do CC with bubo

[stable kayak]

I have been trying that , with the efficiency and script, but right now for instance I am unable to get steve sword or apple, because of the 500k Cloud followers

[magic gyro]

Eventually they will all have chizoars scarf and onwards

[sacred verge]

pass your IE link

[magic gyro]

Sulejo do you have IE?

[stable kayak]

Yes, I am trying to see where it is

https://sulejo.idleonefficiency.com

[magic gyro]

So yeah, gear on all characters could stand to be improved. not the biggest boost though.

[hexed elm]

since traps placed are dependent on whoevers placing them's stats, does using upgrade stones on each trap per character even affect the trapping efficiency?

[magic gyro]

Resources into alchemy is pretty much always important. FMJ and Shaqracy are big. Id even reccomend using the discounts to level them faster

[stable kayak]

So FMJ, even though is not damage?

[magic gyro]

How is your survivability?

[stable kayak]

Ughhh I always forget about discounts...

Well, I cant kill anything active in W5 , just AFK

[sacred verge]

you dont need to worry about w5 for a while

[stable kayak]

Right now Lamps is 100%, but I havent gone more on my ES

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[sacred verge]

there is no reason for you to fight in w5

[magic gyro]

Looks like Sulejarch and Sulwiz have a sample higher than what they are currently printing, so fix that

[stable kayak]

Understood, so to my understanding, to farm the first type of wood? would be the best thing? I was doing it to get to family 2k as the script recommended

[sacred verge]

so stamps can easily be improved

do you have pop obols and dice?

alchemy needs tons of work. daily bubo CC minimum

[stable kayak]

Not sure what a pop obol is.... sorry, dice? Some yes

[sacred verge]

vials need alot of work. tons of vials not unlocked

[stable kayak]

Should I give this ES gear to my Bubo?

[stable kayak]

I havent been able to get the ugly pink fish

[sacred verge]

you should gear up every char

[sacred verge]

you dont need to unlock them in order

[magic gyro]

Yeah building a bubo is big. Pop obols buff drop chance and can be farmed at the gigafrogs

[stable kayak]

WHAT!?

[sacred verge]

samples are extremly low, indicating you need to work on skilling related stuff badly

getting samples up for atoms and atom clicks is important

cooking needs tons of love

[stable kayak]

Btw, Thanks very much for all the advice I am taking notes.

[magic gyro]

So in Summary: Do skilling and craft better gear, Unlock Vials, Keep up with Alchemy bubbles/bubo, Keep on top of Sailing, Gaming, cooking, breeding. See if you can play with character placement to light up more lab icons, Definitely keep leveling more characters in lab

[sacred verge]

youre probably able to push rift aswell but thats not the main concern. should be quick tho

as your lab sucks i would put 6 chars on goat at minimum and throw em in lab

[magic gyro]

Did I forget anything big from that summary?

Yeah definitely put a bunch of guys in lab. Its boring but lab and divinity are huge for overall account power

[sacred verge]

i would suggest getting pop obols silver and dice obols (both personal set and family)

[magic gyro]

And once your chars level up, less of them are occupied with it

[stable kayak]

I am currently stuck in the rift were my Divine knight needs a minimum of 180 if I remember correctly
And I do have 5 with Goat in the Lab, ok ill add one more to the spice

[sacred verge]

keeping vman as the highest skillinglvl is a must. for mining, chopping, fishing, catching

trapping and worship aswell

[magic gyro]

Are you sure you have your characters placed in the best configuration in lab?

You might be able to move some of them around to reach more bubbles

[quiet pewter]

rift is basically just a DPS check. if your stuck it just means come back later with more damage. you ll need about 120B on your ES for the final bonus unlock

[sacred verge]

also working on cards

[stable kayak]

Well they can not be stretched more , I have done it Pyxel by pyxel to try to get to the next but little by little leveling them up

[sacred verge]

just remember, pushing w5 and lvls is a trap

[stable kayak]

Got it, I will then check what other vials I need to level up first thing and it says to drop them fast... soooooo get many of the same and just drop em?

[magic gyro]

Yeah, theres nothing much at the end of w5 right now

[severe widget]

whats voidinator do?

[quiet pewter]

removes the "type" (colour) of enemies

[stable kayak]

Also I will change all of the chars that are currentlly fightning into making skills and leveling up Vman is going to be the hardest... I dont have it that well on skilling

[magic gyro]

Its better to put your resources elsewhere now that you unlocked the w5 skills

[severe widget]

is it incredibly strong? i just got it

[quiet pewter]

extremly. i mean it fully nuliifies all enemies types

[sacred verge]

it gets easier over time. the benefits are huge tho

[quiet pewter]

stick one near the start of each level, normally next to an ice/kraken to make sure they bunch up and get hit

[sacred verge]

to be honest, where youre at now. anything w1-w4 skilling etc would be beneficial. the small bonuses add up alot over time

it does seem like alot now, but you will quickly bee on top of it

and then w5 pushing will be much more enjoyable and rewarding 😄

[vagrant mountain]

another one

[sacred verge]

how many have you done?

[vagrant mountain]

that was my 7th i think

[stable kayak]

More than Understood, I will do as recommended and hopefully I can show in a few days how it is on setup, I really appreciate both your help Daln and Slipper, Thanks so much!

[severe widget]

dope dope so i can actually make some progress now on the fourth td thing

[sacred verge]

also i did not know we could craft from quick ref

[vagrant mountain]

only if you have the ingredients in your inventory

[solar forge]

is there any limit how many times I can get gems from bosses per day / week?

[sacred verge]

nope

the limit is you keys 😛

[quiet pewter]

yep. if you have equinox buff the td strats have changed a lot. they now rely on jsut stalling out and lettign damage build up. most levels are somethign like 3-4 poision, 1 lighting for the crits, 4-5 party and a tonne of ice and kraken to stall them out, oh yeah and one voidnator. but stalling out with a bunch of krakens, and a small amout of dmg is baiscllly the goal, if tha tmakes sense

[fiery forge]

Ohhh

[stoic silo]

what are the best sparkle obols to get? I have 2 family slots, and a few porsonal slots

[obtuse orbit]

🚫 vanillamik3597, that command is disabled in this channel.

[severe widget]

ah bscly take a long time to complete it but complete any amount of waves i wanna

[snow light]

i personally like using troll and dice but kruk is pretty good too

[severe widget]

if i take the time? xd

[vapid cove]

dont worry guys everyone knows im #1

https://tenor.com/view/i-really-wish-butters-stotch-south-park-butters-very-own-episode-s5e14-gif-21987122

[stoic silo]

also are there any sparkle obols that are easier to get, I have none atm

[quiet pewter]

yeah but weirdly its quicker than before, because your damage jsut keeps increasing on the bosses

[slender sandal]

leveling dice is easiest to get if you have frags since the boss ones are rare drops from bosses

[severe widget]

oh havent got equinox yet :/ making slow progress on it cause i just got to w5 a week or two ago

[slender sandal]

and yeah tds are a lot faster until you start getting to the really big waves, then you stall for actual hours and either just lose because the next 10 wave timer hits or you just don't have enough speed on making kraken eyeballs

[quiet pewter]

so the build is roughly the smae without equinox, just a bit less kraken a bit more posion

theres a next 10 wave timer?

[severe widget]

do u have a ss or smtn , no i dont have a next 10 waves button yet xd

[slender sandal]

yeah there's a hidden timer of 9999 seconds

and if you don't kill the boss in that time the next wave spawns

[quiet pewter]

huh guess i always got bored before then. interestign to know

[snow light]

how do you guys get CC up so fast i can barely get it up every other hour? is it just the alchemy bubble for it?

[slender sandal]

one of the strats for super deep td is to do that and then force the next waves and then eat them together

tentacyleye talent 200+

makes kills remove 3 seconds from timers instead of 2 (at a high chance)

[snow light]

current shaman talent

[quiet pewter]

have you just not booked anything?

[snow light]

ive booked things sadly i am capped right now at 160 talents instead of everyone's 245 i believe it is right now i am progressing in sailing and trying to unlock the atom for higher limits in a sec here

[sacred verge]

200 tent is good enough

all u really need

[quiet pewter]

cool well other thigns it could be are , too much stuff on talent bar, should only have essentials. and use a melee weapon

[snow light]

only talents equiped with stingers

[slender sandal]

mana po box maxed?

[snow light]

ahhhh there you go ty ty

[quiet pewter]

looks decent, i guess it sjust the low max levels and low alchemy hitting you. should take a lot less than an hour to cc. the bubble goes at least into the 90%s

[sacred verge]

quite a bit to gain on bubble

almost 40% more

[snow light]

i dont know how to feel i wanna get everything to 80% efficiency in alchemy then start bubble maxing and pushing everything to 90-95%

[sacred verge]

well roadkill is hourly click

so thats still doable while still getting roadkill

[quiet pewter]

seems a good approach, give larry a bit of attention up front though, free bubble levels

[snow light]

ill keep that in mind at least as well but that is a long ways away

dont even have that atom yet currently using mats faster than i can atom them

[quiet pewter]

atomes should be coming from logs and copper prints, and you sure aint using those faster than you print them. not much point really setting up for atoms till you can print a couple million though

i mean you can atom before that point, but its not worth beign your main set up

[olive sphinx]

Capped at 120 ?

[snow light]

these are my prints rn i just printed a couple days ago and am currently limited by mats which i cant print currently

[quiet pewter]

huh i mean 6M copper is great to start atoming on. kinda confused why you needing to print some pretty tiny mats for refinery, but if thats what ya gotta do

[snow light]

oh i thought it was 100m to atom

[quiet pewter]

in general ES can make a shit load of any material in 5 minutes

[dark pivot]

Is it worth generating atoms right now if my current biggest stack is only ~100M copper and it takes about 10h to make a million of it?

[vapid cove]

dont rush but do go to equinox every time it fills

[quiet pewter]

once it builds to 100M you get an atom, but 6M is fine to start atoming (you get a lot more than 6 M with the lab bonus, gods etc) - or is it 10M? either way you can be gettign atoms with those samples

[severe widget]

mines full atm

[cloud shore]

yo can anyone help me with the "one star, game sucks!" quest

[snow light]

should i set my limit to 10m then? i set it all the way to 1b because i wanted to max my gains from the copper stacking skill/log stacking skill because i feel that gives a lot of skill power

[quiet pewter]

1B is a normal limit to set

[lavish dirge]

Anyone know how I died in Tower Conflict? Ruined a great run I was having. I don't know how you can take damage.

[snow light]

no you as a player can get hurt so it is always a good idea to have food to heal you at least in my experiences

[quiet pewter]

yeah even when its off anythign over max stack gets atomed

[lavish dirge]

Crazy. Never had that happen before. 428K health. I'll add some food!

[snow light]

current mats just because i used those mats to level up the 1st bubble per cauldron (not yellow)

[quiet pewter]

your def at a point where taking atom production seriously would boost your alchemy a lot

[severe widget]

should i be able to get wave 50 on every td now with void?
need it for an equinox

[dark pivot]

In anyones experience does the portal kill requirment get lowered when he adds new worlds?

[quiet pewter]

i think people were getting 100+ before void, so yes. the level of your poision is prob the main thing

[severe widget]

its level 1 my construction is low/weak xzd

[snow light]

only green is 1000m i am no longer clicking that but the other ones are barely scratching the millions

[quiet pewter]

lol ok, use boulders

[snow light]

so should i lower the limit to 10m and turn it on when i log on and then turn it off right after?

[quiet pewter]

nah, jsut turn the collider off. it will still make atoms once you go over max stack size

[snow light]

oh thats cool guess i should just wait and let the mats come in

[quiet pewter]

that or set ti to 1B limit if you really like the animation

[olive sphinx]

Atoms can be printed even if atom collider not unlocked?

[paper sail]

Autoconverts over 1050m whether you like it or not

[snow light]

always felt uncomfortable asking about this stuff since i know most people do ask relatively easy questions to answer but all they would have to do is look around a little so i just lurked until the question i needed answered was asked

more than half the time it was eventually asked

[olive sphinx]

Well I can get 1050m resources and my atom colli is 70% finished

[quiet pewter]

eh, no worries. id say the stuff your asking is pretty reasoanble. i gtg but hopefully someone will tell you about god/lab set up for atoming

[snow light]

i have up to tiger unlocked and i know the general info is those that are printing be in lab with bunny equipped but i used all my unlinks already

[glass quail]

what is the better way to get lava skulls in rift, kill everything quickly with a constant sb respawn or carefully kill stuff leaving a platform to grow skulls with a dk

[snow light]

i personally thought it was based off of enemies being alive while you killed other enemies and it was all luck based if they "skulled up" or not i could be wrong but in my short 15 rifts i have done that is what i have experienced

[woeful helm]

Is divinity always slow?

[glass quail]

i have terrible rng right now, i leave a platform full of enemies before killing skull enemies but had so many dem skulls not bounce yet

[true obsidian]

f2p belike...

[vapid cove]

when you get to ram

it'll be ok from there on

Rift slug is fantastic too but its not ram

[snow light]

storage from everywhere is such a good QOL

[true obsidian]

let just see what happen after 2 more week :<

hope tier 4 treat treat me well

[snow light]

i see hoping for doot next week then good luck friend

[true obsidian]

thanks

what a bad luck :<

[snow light]

i think you are doing pretty alright when i havent even gotten to all the islands yet myself

[grand fable]

does frothy malk effect gold food?

[stable kayak]

Guys, just to be sure, VMAN needs to be the highest on Chopping before my mages? Or how does the skilling with it work?

[sacred verge]

yes

[wintry stag]

lowest

dont listen to daln he likes to lie

[sacred verge]

vman needs to be the highest lvl in chopping, mining, fishing, catching, trapping, worship

what are you talking about

[wintry stag]

vman needs to be the lowest lvl in chopping, mining, fishing, catching, trapping, worship

[sacred verge]

what would i have to gain from lies?

[barren crater]

is my stuff and stats alright for W5?

[wintry stag]

what are u talking about daln

[sacred verge]

bro stop

[wintry stag]

please stop lying

[snow light]

the ones circled in red

[wintry stag]

no

[stable kayak]

There are going to be some problems with my mages dammit...
Ill risk itt all and craft the Fiberous footings, and start little by little be right back in some hours when I do this,
And I do believe Daln I mostly owe my Life at this point, Thanks again

[glossy trench]

you need like 1b dmg to push w5

[wintry stag]

you welcome

[sacred verge]

chicken how old are you?

[wintry stag]

17

why u wondering

[barren crater]

and how do i get higher damage withouth crafting page 4 or 5?

[sacred verge]

the way youre acting

[wintry stag]

im bored

[glossy trench]

focus on skills for now void

[sacred verge]

so what

[wintry stag]

so stop lying daln

[glossy trench]

like alchemy is a huge thing

[wintry stag]

its a horrible thing to do

[glossy trench]

im only on like 150m rn so im in the same boat

[barren crater]

i only got like 200hrs in game

in thee game and half the time spent was just loading it

[glossy trench]

yh your doing good void, just your only really starting the main game now

prints and alchemy is what im focusing on

want that 1m copper print....

[barren crater]

god the micro manageing will be ungodly, plus still need half a ton of frozen souls to make crafting 4

bet crafting 5 will be worse

[glossy trench]

nah, that frozen soul grind is helllll

but work on construction and do decent in that tower defense and 5k is nothing anymore

[snow light]

i would suggest going back and focusing on the other skills in the game before W5 and even then you want to have a couple people on divinity eventually you will craft tab 4&5 and i would suggest focusing on the troll boss equipment that should get you going into the right direction

[barren crater]

best i can do is like 8 waves before i get crushed, i know there are guides and stuff but can't always upgrade my towers in construction, if only there was auto construct or someething

[glossy trench]

crafting 5 is acc super chill

[glossy trench]

voidinator is super useful for snowman td

[barren crater]

wait could you show me the recipe?

[glossy trench]

last tower in construction

1 sec lemme load

im waiting on my starfire bars rn

[barren crater]

mainly concerned for cubed logs and nullo salt and fairies, starfire bar seems easy enough

[glossy trench]

takes a while but its chill

[glossy trench]

wrong way round...

everything else you should be able to get really easy

[barren crater]

my main miner is lvl 70 mineing

[glossy trench]

starfire just seems like a timegate

[glossy trench]

what efficiency?

[barren crater]

how do i check?

[glossy trench]

click the skill in your inventory

[barren crater]

oh

[sacred verge]

starfire is fairly easy with archer

2m claims or candy

[glossy trench]

ohhhhh, i forgot about that skill lol

*talent

[rich epoch]

wym you literally just have to spam kraken and if you don't have it just work towards it

[sacred verge]

starfire is more pain when making troll gear

[eternal mantle]

simply candy

[pseudo blaze]

nullo salts be hard to get for troll

;-;

[glossy trench]

you might need to put that up with alch a bit

[barren crater]

btw everything is focused on mineing on that character like maxed out void pic, miner pants, viking helmet, cavern trekkers

[pseudo blaze]

upgrade to lustre

faster sweengs

[barren crater]

i'm stuck in w3 crafting

lituraly cannot

[pseudo blaze]

😂

[glossy trench]

they dont have crafting 4 yet 😦

[pseudo blaze]

yea why are u farming starfire then

[barren crater]

if only the stupid chilled souls were not required, would have unlocked it ages ago

[glossy trench]

you need to unlock later towers

[pseudo blaze]

rubber soul gum

[glossy trench]

its not really possible without them

[glossy trench]

they said wave 8, thatll still be a helluva grind

[pseudo blaze]

why are u trying to farm starfire with that

[glossy trench]

try and avoid getting your miner to too high a level

[azure spindle]

I have a question for those high level grind time players if there's any here. When leveling gt do you use viaduct in lab or just keep checking back on short intervals?

[barren crater]

i was also mainly mineing void ore but now i should mine lustre since when i get to crafting 4 i might need it

[glossy trench]

to make it easier to keep your vman at higher level

[barren crater]

why's that?

[pseudo blaze]

u dont really need to use your miner for mats

just sample it

[barren crater]

lustrite sample is quite low for me

[pseudo blaze]

like dont afk at the material u want u get up to 90% of mats from 3d printer

duh u dont have the prayer equipped

look at your sample %

[barren crater]

only sampling 478

[glossy trench]

are you in w5 or trying to get there?

[pseudo blaze]

click on your construction skill and you’ll see the %

[barren crater]

i am in W5

just trying to catch up to W5's crafting

[glossy trench]

whats your gaming like?

[barren crater]

gaming is only 18 as i only recently got to w5

[snow light]

are megacrits different colors or the same color

[barren crater]

they are big and got a crown on them

[glossy trench]

yh, once you get to superbits, no more praying gives you prayers but 20% and no curses

[pseudo blaze]

nope

[rich epoch]

you got to w5 without anvil 5?

[pseudo blaze]

not worth it backshill

[pseudo blaze]

hey whats wrong with that

[glossy trench]

that + royal sampler makes samples so much nicer

[barren crater]

yes

[pseudo blaze]

i just killed kruk with dementia 😂

[snow light]

royal sampler is what pushed my samples to 90%

[pseudo blaze]

it only works with no prayers so if u have royal sampler it doesnt work

[barren crater]

also

[glossy trench]

exactly, but i never used royal cos of the curse

[pseudo blaze]

thats an L play

[barren crater]

how do TD charges work???

[glossy trench]

but no curses are blessedddddd

[rich epoch]

oh boy

i'ma leave

[snow light]

based off the relevent alchemy bubbles and skull they have

[barren crater]

got the slush skull :I

[snow light]

i suggest shooting for a better skull then slush cause if i remember right worship power scales with charge speed

[sick sentinel]

Dont use slush skull, save it for crafting later. The slow charge is awful

[brisk breach]

is the way i calculate sample sizes just take my hourly and multiply it by the sample %

[snow light]

afk gain rate as far as i know can change the amount that you get for the sample % so if you have more than 100% afk gain rate then what you are shown wont be the sample size you actually get

[barren crater]

alright noted, thanks for all the help, would have probubly been stuck for a 9 month wiki and youtube searching

just changed to horned skull as that's another best 1 i have atm, will work to geting prickled skull then will grind constructions to hopefully improve what i get on for chilled souls

[rough wasp]

@signal osprey Can you bless me with a 50M nuggie

[signal osprey]

I think you need some more nuggets to hit a 50m

[rough wasp]

what if i high roll

honestly I just want a 5M+ nugget

[signal osprey]

Then dont settle for 50m smh. Shoot for the stars

[rough wasp]

I hope I don't lowroll

[signal osprey]

90m or bust

[rough wasp]

1B like lord alvin?

[signal osprey]

1b nuggie has nothing on alvin

His nugget is so high it overflowed and only showed up as 58k in game

[rough wasp]

oh true

I haven't been faithful to Alvin so I need to regain my faith

[barren crater]

@glossy trench just found out i got soulble gum unlocked

[ember abyss]

Question about VMan talents; if I respec and max out Eternal STR, AGI etc.., invest points in those stats and then respec VMan again, do the other characters lose those stat points?

[rough wasp]

oh Contract, what lv is your Name I guess?

I'm leveling cause its an hourly click but it doesnt feel that good

[signal osprey]

8398

Its not ever going to give as much as quick slap but it definitely does still add up over time

[rough wasp]

yea ill still level it cause why not

[signal osprey]

Q damage in no time

[verbal matrix]

what is the quickest way to increase this by 1?

[signal osprey]

Candy

[azure spindle]

hey contract when you are leveling up GT do you use viaduct of the gods in lab or leave it off and just check back more often?

[signal osprey]

Depends how busy I am but if you can check enough to turn viaduct off you should

[vast bay]

@ember abyss no

Any lvl req. for tower to clear all 50 waves for equinox?

[fast grail]

will I hit the 50/50 for double?

[snow light]

i pray for you friend

[vagrant mountain]

only one way to find out

[fast grail]

I did not hit the double

[vagrant mountain]

[fast grail]

RIP like 2 weeks of cooking progress

what i get for being lazy i guess

have been on full coasting mode in the game anyways, aside from DK and bubo, all characters were sitting at 2 weeks unclaimed

[vagrant mountain]

i feel you

i got 8 div 1 cooking and 1 DK on beans for the past 2 months

[fast grail]

I got everyone on pearlers at least, once i get high enough vial then gonna start pushing div

[pearl cedar]

What's high enough vial

[fast grail]

I have yet to decide

[vagrant mountain]

if youre a normal person lvl 2 or 3 vial

[pearl cedar]

I'm going to 6

[fast grail]

Yeah, think im stopping at 6

[pearl cedar]

Already spent about 60 24 hrs and 250 12s lol

[vagrant mountain]

ima see how many pearlers i get from greenstacking w4 leaves and ill go from there

[fast grail]

I have not candied any at all thus far, just slammed all characters on it aside from active char and SB who is at gmush

[vagrant mountain]

i need to move my shrines to w4 so i can sit in lab instead of altar, but I know if I do, w6 will come out early and then all my chars will be afk in w6

[pearl cedar]

I decided to candy cause my shrines also sucked

[pearl cedar]

That's what people thought with w5 then it was oh back to the lab again

[vagrant mountain]

yeah im stuck in w5 and i cant use candies to finish my shrine levels either

im too deep to turn back

[granite grove]

w6 might be the same due to atom printing + harriep

[fast grail]

Does time candy contribute to the afk hours claimed task?

[vagrant mountain]

i think so

[fast grail]

Thats gonna be an interesting board then

[vagrant mountain]

hehe

[pearl cedar]

They candy was worth it. Took all my shrines to 22

Put 16k on my sb

Probably should've put them all

Think I have about 100k but lazy

[fast grail]

The laziness wins too often

I still havent gotten all of my divine trophies

[sour oasis]

Candies contribute to shrine hours?!

My shrines could be so much higher maaaaaan

[fast grail]

Actual building level of shrine

[sour oasis]

I have them in world 5

[pearl cedar]

Does food boost affect shrine level?

[scenic locust]

Are there movement speed caps? It feels like I can't get past 175% on my squire

[fast grail]

the golden food boost should for cheese. Wait is cheese one of the ones that are actually 1/100 of the value shown

[pearl cedar]

175 is a weird cap

[fast grail]

There is some bonuses that dont get you past 175, have to get other methods like boost food% for speed pots

[pearl cedar]

Think some lava rounding causes it to be stuck at 175 until like 185

[pearl cedar]

It was but was fixed somewhat recently

[scenic locust]

Can statues not get me passed 175?

[pearl cedar]

They can

[fast grail]

They can, boost food is where a lot of it is

small compared to more regular bean enjoyers but it becomes a lot

ah fuck, ive been lazy

[deft grail]

What's a good class to get Grandfrogger down solo for Equinox

[scenic locust]

DK

[deft grail]

DK and just pray for drops

[scenic locust]

yeah, I haven't done it yet, but you need toi prioritze +drop rate items

[fast grail]

DK and R40 is just a insta 50/50 of winning

[hot void]

What's better for catching bugs 30 % afk gain or catching speed 40%

[fast grail]

really depends on so many factors with your account and which bug. try both and see what gives you more

[hot void]

Ok

I just don't know what card to try to upgrade

[scenic locust]

Just upgrade them all? 😄

[burnt sail]

Anything I'm missing that actually impacts the rate of plunderous mobs? I saw someone claiming rates of 22k/day at citringe but I'm on pace for more like 16k/day. My coin buff doesn't run out, I 1 shot mobs, etc. Didn't think there was anything else that affected it. Just RNG?

[scenic locust]

Do you have the upgraded ability from vman?

[burnt sail]

Yeah I do.

[scenic locust]

The only things I could think that could effect kill rate there then would be basic attack speed, cooldown reduction (from "woah, that was fast!" talent), and maybe movement speed

ability order could matter too

[burnt sail]

Hmm OK, thanks. I think I'm covered on all of that.

Oh yeah good point.. my bar probably needs to be tweaked.

Yeah that was my first thought. It's like 6th on the bar. I'll move that up.

Probably also helps if I do my math right. Was gone for 2 hours 15 minutes but divided by 185 instead of 135. So I'm at more like 19k/day. The talent bar will probably do the rest. Thanks!

[scenic locust]

🎉

Is citringe the confirmed best map for plunderous kills?

[ruby yarrow]

So what is better for 12m Gmush kills on mman, active or afk?

[paper sail]

AFK, usually candy

[livid raft]

anyone got that layout map for TD to get higher levels?

[ruby yarrow]

I dont have candies

[zealous niche]

Pancake posted guides in #endgame-gen-chat that adjust for equinox dmg

[livid raft]

Thanks.

[weary sonnet]

Guys, advise the placement of pets to conquer new spices.

[vapid cove]

dk is good for that

[kindred dagger]

Did not realized that. Thanks, I deleted it. @paper sail

[ruby yarrow]

Nope

[vapid cove]

im stuck on like ice knight guy i dont know what to use for it

[ruby yarrow]

Is DK the best for this?

[weary sonnet]

I'm also stuck on the Ice Knight

[ruby yarrow]

Also my drop rate is tremendously low

[livid raft]

Is it pinned I dont see it.

[ruby yarrow]

Not at all

Should I do it right now on active ES?

Okay

[zealous niche]

No, just search From:Pancake TD

[livid raft]

Gotcha, thank you.

[zealous niche]

from: pancakex. TD

realised you may not actually know which pancake is the pancake of our server

[sick sentinel]

The td layout links are also saved in the guide masterlist in tips channel

[ruby yarrow]

Giga frogs is the best spot for pop obols?

And pop or dice is the priority?

(Square dice)

Why do you have 2 circle dice?

It’s hard to get it?

[wise vapor]

What kinda copper samples are people looking at ?

[safe harness]

whats best w2 CC map?

[severe widget]

how to get access to that channel?

[safe harness]

add permission under #👀read-me

[modern meteor]

Why don’t candies work in w5

Ok

[snow light]

i am personally looking at 6.9m

[swift pecan]

I'm at around 300m I believe and that's still low comparatively.

[rough wasp]

Almost there

[pearl pebble]

1M cuz im a god

[signal osprey]

1500m copper print

[narrow sable]

man i’d kill to be 1m

[patent hatch]

I would kill for 1b copper

[bold quiver]

finaly

[patent hatch]

wow thats at least over 10 million

[bold quiver]

still got some candies left

[pearl pebble]

did i get that max wrong haha

what is the highest copper print?

[vapid cove]

no idea but you can definitely get over a billion

[lime trench]

i doubt there IS a limit

[sharp igloo]

Lol how much money do you get at wurms?

[lime trench]

just... depends on how high you can get your numbers up

[snow light]

so how many people in lab can you have and still light everything up i kinda wanna figure out how many i need to have on bear so i can farm mob drops/stack deathnote on as many characters as possible

[rough wasp]

gropss

gross

My new nugget

[vapid cove]

you can light it up wtih 4 but if you wanna get everything probably 6 unless you have like everything really high

[rough wasp]

1.885m to 2.45m

[vapid cove]

its a jump breh

im still stuck at 26k be happy

[lime trench]

26k? im at 3.7k ;-;

[barren otter]

im still stuck at 113mil

[lime trench]

[short gale]

How much logs/hr do I need to sample 1bil with 90% printer rate and maxed Printer Sampling book?

like 1.1b?

[rough wasp]

pretty shit increase

[rough wasp]

yea 1.1b

[short gale]

nearly there

[rough wasp]

you know at least its not a 1.9m nugget

[hybrid spindle]

is it true that I need to use 1 24h candy before I can start using other candies on fractal island?

[short gale]

Where did you hear that misinformation :haha: :haha:

[hybrid spindle]

no idea but I heard you somehow have to afk 24h before you can use smaller candy

[vestal yew]

should you always be leveling up red salts in the refinery?

[hybrid spindle]

yes

[vestal yew]

but im always out of red salts D:

[hybrid spindle]

all the more reason to level up red salts

[vestal yew]

does it ever even out? Do people stop refining orange salts to keep more red?

[snow light]

wat

[hybrid spindle]

that was player xp before but was removed, so it now shows this

[snow light]

damn

[hybrid spindle]

if you want to keep some red for something else, then sure

[upbeat panther]

just got my 1bill

[swift wharf]

I’m stuck at 2.8k

[unkempt condor]

i guess i have a little problem with the slab
there are some items that i probably permanently missed (for example alien headband, bc i already did the quest on all 10 char and sold alien headbands) because i didn't know that i should drop it and pick it up lol
am i able to get this somehow anyway or i lost my chance?

[fathom lagoon]

Lost your chance til 11th char

[unkempt condor]

oh well

[upbeat panther]

same boat

[gusty glade]

is it possible to get Enhancement Eclipse to lv 250?

[granite grove]

245 is the absolute max rn

[gusty glade]

dang!

[unkempt condor]

oof
it's annoying aaaaaa

[upbeat panther]

for all the dung i have done i still havent rolled a akf x10 charm

[keen rapids]

What rank are you?

[upbeat panther]

rank 51

[keen rapids]

R52 and my cards don't look any better 😭 so hard to actually farm dungeon cards :/

[short gale]

qq

[zinc torrent]

is this the best for samples based off the increased speed? or should I base it off the % chance of the fish i want

[austere path]

Approximately how much damage does it take to start Eclipse?

1t enough?

[errant sluice]

i think i started without being in the billions lol

[austere path]

At that time, what was your kill per hour?

[fast grail]

1T is plenty for full eclipse

[austere path]

10m per hour?

[errant sluice]

like 2mil

on my noob chars

[austere path]

On u main acc?

[errant sluice]

but i also put the 4 that dont really do anything to the work

only got 1 account yeah

[austere path]

U play Active or idle?

[errant sluice]

i had 4 guys idling the eclipse skulls

i active with bubo and dk but not eclipse

[gilded orchid]

active farming eclipse?

[austere path]

Ahh i see thanks

[fast grail]

1T with proper bonuses, you should be getting like like 5-15m per hour depending on the mob

[icy sandal]

This is where mana snapshotting comes in handy

[agile pagoda]

how do you boost the cooking cap again?

[icy sandal]

Cooking cap?

[agile pagoda]

meal cap I mean, whoops

[icy sandal]

Sailing, there is an artifact that gives U 10+ cap every form

[agile pagoda]

awww crap you're right...

[wind pewter]

Alright guys...I decided to push w5 with my DK with 1hr and 2hr time candies. Anyways lol...im here. I just got here and I would like some advice on what to do from here. Dont mind my dailies, im barely logging in too.
https://azuresx.idleonefficiency.com

[agile pagoda]

I thought you couldn't use candies in W5

[wind pewter]

To get to w5 sorry

And oh? i didnt know that

[agile pagoda]

yeah...

Don't forget your chiz keys

[wind pewter]

I need to get that achievement, but ty 😄

[agile pagoda]

ngl it's a bit hard to see your character speedrunning with a skilling build

well

pushing W4

[wind pewter]

X7 Is the DK Pusher.

[agile pagoda]

whoops ok gimme a sec

give +30 points in Stonks

[wind pewter]

Dont think i quite got Stonks yet, ima check though

[agile pagoda]

and for now give 1 point symbols and give the 39 points in orb and then overblown testosterone

cause orb will be very good for leveling

Oh you're right, you have to unlock Stonks....

[halcyon sluice]

Get started on the w5 skills asap, then leave everyone but one character on divinity and use that one character to start backtracking on the things you’ve ignored in order to push

[wind pewter]

Does sailing means someone has to be left in there just like lab?

[agile pagoda]

That is..... yeah. They do have a point

[wind pewter]

OOOO

[halcyon sluice]

Sailing is like cooking

[wind pewter]

Ah okay.

[halcyon sluice]

You don’t need anyone there

[wind pewter]

But use SB as captain i imagine though?

[halcyon sluice]

But you check every 2-4h if possible on your SB

[agile pagoda]

captain aint one of your characters as far as I know

[halcyon sluice]

Yes

[short gale]

That is with the snapshot.

[halcyon sluice]

I guess its more like construction than cooking, i just said cooking because its a w4 skill like the lab

[wind pewter]

Oh my goodness im excited lol okay thank you, im excited. and ah okay gotcha gotcha

[agile pagoda]

and cooking has laddles, sailing barely has an equivalent

[obtuse rover]

Captains are these little gacha boys you'll be able to hire on the far right-side of W5 town

[agile pagoda]

except for the nivea cream but that's... pretty hard to get

[wind pewter]

And I imagine ill have to get lucky with gaming to hire?

[agile pagoda]

gaming is totally different

[wind pewter]

Nvm i see the one cap i can use

[agile pagoda]

you can buy 1 to 4 new crew members per day

[upbeat panther]

click the boat then ckick the capton walking around

[obtuse rover]

Gaming is a different skill where you grow plants

But you'll basically see a new list of captains appear every day on your daily reset that you can choose to hire (but you'll have a limit to how many you can keep at a time)

[upbeat panther]

then go to map and drag boat to the closest island

[wind pewter]

Just finished that, every 10hrs to start it looks like

[agile pagoda]

as you level up sailing you get up to 4 per day and you can unlock better rarities

[obtuse rover]

One day it'll get obnoxiously quick, but it starts off slow, yeah

[upbeat panther]

yea the more chest space you have the better

[agile pagoda]

Oh! One thing

[upbeat panther]

divinity is like cooking but to unlock gods

[obtuse rover]

More like lab

[agile pagoda]

SB's family skill reduces the minimum time required to do a full run.

[obtuse rover]

In that you just sit there and gain exp

And don't produce any resource

[agile pagoda]

but don't focus on this rn I'd say

[upbeat panther]

the second one is very important

[agile pagoda]

your stats will be too low to benefit from it

[obtuse rover]

God 2 and 4 are both very exciting when you unlock them

[wind pewter]

So with this, I should be skilling Maestro. Use Bubo/DK to farm lvls and ES to get mats and everyone else leave in div?

[agile pagoda]

Ooooh yes divinity... I'll leave it to you guys

basically keep them until you get them to level 40

[obtuse rover]

Some people just put like 9 characters in divinity for a little bit when they first get to W5 and just use 1 character for active.

[agile pagoda]

when they reach lv40 they can gain divinity exp without even being afk there.

[wind pewter]

Okay. I just want to make sure I progress in the right direction. Thank you guys.

So for now...no need to push w5 mobs. Just catch up on everything?

[agile pagoda]

yeah

[wind pewter]

Okay sounds like a notepad and pen time

[agile pagoda]

W5 skills give a huge boost to pretty much everything

to talent caps, efficiency, other skill boosts, damage...

[ocean matrix]

Weird process idea, you can put everyone in divinity, get to goat God (goat God make the people in lab count as if they were in divinity) and then put all in lab and do the lab\divinity grind at once

[agile pagoda]

Oh right, forgot about that

[wind pewter]

And it would immensly make catching up easier huh?

[ornate zinc]

What things increase artifact odds? Ive been trying to get one for quite a while now but after like 500 chests i still dont have it

[agile pagoda]

well 2 skills for the price of 1

[wind pewter]

Work got really busy this week...so accidentaly...mostly everyone was in lab all week but they all got 10-15 lvls

[obtuse rover]

It's great to get goat god ASAP and slam some people in lab, especially if your characters aren't all at lab level 75 yet.

[ocean matrix]

The two most boring skills in a faster progress, so is worth

[crisp silo]

Not many things buff arti chance

[ornate zinc]

So i guess my luck is just terrible lol

[obtuse rover]

Some artifacts just have incredibly low odds.
I've dug through thousands without anything to show for it

[crisp silo]

Literally 1 artifact from island 1

[wind pewter]

Heh okay. I guess thats why i felt lery about leaving them in lab and what not.

[crisp silo]

Or 2

Its the tusk

[ornate zinc]

Where can you see the odds-?

[ornate zinc]

Thats the 1st one i got-

[crisp silo]

Odds for artifact is under the chest

[halcyon sluice]

Before opening the chests it tells the odds

[ornate zinc]

Kk

[crisp silo]

Anyways most odds are like 0.01%

So not so fun

[halcyon sluice]

But its normal to get no new artifacts in a long time