lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[lyric sequoia]

You only have 1 draconic, that's why

[bold quiver]

hmmm maybe thats why

[signal osprey]

Yeah which means his rates would have been lower

[pastel bramble]

how is alchemy xp gained, what defines how much xp u get except cauldron multipliers?

[strong acorn]

is active ES best for quickly farming mobs cards or should i just candy them?

[lyric sequoia]

Draconic is like a 1.5x boost on cap and speed or something like that

[signal osprey]

Because this draconic came out after he leveled his GT

[bold quiver]

CAP is on 2nd cauldron

[signal osprey]

This was before draconic though that you did GT

[bold quiver]

let me remove the lab thing so u can do your math

[swift hatch]

you also would've had a decently lower cauldron level spending all your liquid on GT

[bold quiver]

this, 123

i had this while leveling GT from 8k or whatever first pic was

[keen rapids]

Why is your drippy drop stamp only lvl 100?

[bold quiver]

my average CC is 450k

[keen rapids]

And why haven't you resampled anything for 80 days xD

[lyric sequoia]

Wait

[bold quiver]

oh it might not have updated

[pastel bramble]

hey man i havent resampled for like 20

[lyric sequoia]

You're saying you did 8k to 36k in 16 hours? I didn't even realise that was the claim

[bold quiver]

i reupdated IE, maybe it didnt click

[swift hatch]

Don't out me like that I haven't resampled in like 3 months!

[bold quiver]

oh no lol, that wouldnt makee sense KKKKKKKKK

[signal osprey]

Its 8k to 16k but still

[placid timber]

can you share your IE?

[bold quiver]

did u do the math now? and it was not exactly 8k to exactly 16k o.o

[night holly]

lol I don't get why you're wasting your breath. He used the water glitch a few weeks back and a little brother for clicks, clearly.

his profile is littered with MS requirements for Chiz/etc indicating the little brother setup.

[bold quiver]

i sent but probably didnt update properly https://nitiz.idleonefficiency.com

[signal osprey]

Yeah he did the liquid exploit 100% and unfortunately IE cant prove that either

[pastel bramble]

yall are missing a big thing here, his alchemy level is 139. just calculate how much he should have gained to check if level is correct

[signal osprey]

Oh wait yeah thats true

My cauldrons are like half his decant levels and my GT is lower too so you would assume hes done way more alch than me

[snow light]

am jealous of this level of active buboing

[signal osprey]

Yet I'm 159 alch

[placid timber]

thanks just needed to see where i should focus my stuff on 🙂

[paper sail]

I'm 163, also much lower

[pastel bramble]

yall argueing with your big pps but not using your brains 😄

[signal osprey]

Its almost as if the liquid exploit gives lots of liquid but doesnt actually increase exp

[tacit tulip]

first screenshot is when he had 8k GT second screenshot is now.

[signal osprey]

Which is the case btw

[weak vector]

honestly i'm more impressed that he has a ton of emperor opals on his characters and is still missing the w2 dungeon achievements, w4 spice colletion, and w4 100k afk hours

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey dude. do u realize that u have been saying that iu went from 8k to 16k in a dayu based on a post that isnt even true right?

[signal osprey]

It was your post

[bold quiver]

i went from 8k to this

8k something

it was around 8,8 or 8,6k iirc

[keen rapids]

Wonder what char his 139 is on ;o

[pastel bramble]

time to play some league, its less toxic there

[lyric sequoia]

I only got the w2 and w3 dungeon achievements for equinox, that doesn't show anything

[weak vector]

and nullo salts are still on 8

[weak vector]

achievements for gaming

[bold quiver]

wasnt my post, sakori or someone else posted something saying that i diudt 8k levels in a day

[bold quiver]

DUDE, NOT IN A DAY lol

[lyric sequoia]

w1 dungeon is by far the best way to get flurbos and easy to do with happy hours

[night holly]

look at the timnestamps.......

[bold quiver]

message out of context at its finest

[night holly]

26*

[bold quiver]

u do realize that its out of context right?

this is was after my first day of leveling GT

[muted bramble]

how do you even gain that much liquids ...

[bold quiver]

i went from 8,5 -8,6k or something to 12031 in a day.........

[night holly]

Bruh I was in W4 chat when jaeger showed you the water trick and a few days later you were pumping GT. Why be so brazen about it and not just own it lmao

[bold quiver]

then from 12031 to whatever o posted next day

[muted bramble]

water trick ?

[bold quiver]

u are out of context i already sent my cauldrons lol, basicaly the same as contract

higher by 3 liquid

[paper sail]

Bannable exploit

[night holly]

pretty sure its fix't

[bold quiver]

equinox thing but its been fixed

[muted bramble]

sad days :/

[signal osprey]

Its kinda fixed

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey did u redo the math with my actual leveling numbers?

not some random value out of context people just said

[signal osprey]

Yeah because my original math was assuming 11k starting point anyway not 8k

So even that out of context issue doesnt change anything lol

[night holly]

I have 0 doubt that you clicked your GT. My point is your water abuse allowed you to click GT.

[bold quiver]

so its not possible to level up from 12k to 14-15k in a day? with 123 liquid

[swift hatch]

I mean... 13k to 16k in 24 hours is still pretty nuts yeah? lol

[pastel bramble]

2 down 8 to go

[lyric sequoia]

stamp, equinox active bubo for a while

[scenic locust]

Idk if I can get to 2000000 PVC pipe by December 6th for the poker chip, what's the best boosts for anvil speeds?

[signal osprey]

Not without a liquid exploit no

[thin rose]

[signal osprey]

Not to mention you have the highest decants I've ever seen too besides known exploiters

[bold quiver]

where can i find some player that test exploits then, cuz only dif thing i did was keeping alchemy tab open

[signal osprey]

But I wont even comment on that because I'm still trying to figure out when you had the time to do that

[night holly]

https://tenor.com/view/which-was-the-point-thats-the-point-preacher-pointing-grand-hustle-gif-12471964

[thin rose]

that is the exploit brave

[bold quiver]

well i didnt know that u get extra liquid to level GT if u keep the cauldrons tab opened

[pastel bramble]

oh god i dont even want to know my level

[lyric sequoia]

Drippy droppy, not those

[bold quiver]

honestly didnt know lol

[bold quiver]

living and learning lol

[thin rose]

it's all good

I just came here what are we talking about

[lyric sequoia]

I don't think that first stamp affects liquid rate, otherwise it'd say it like drippy droppy

[pastel bramble]

eeehhh my drippy droop is 90 not bad for a stamp i ignored

[tacit tulip]

brave reckons he did like, 8k to 33k GT in a week. Noone here agrees 😛

he only gained 20 alchemy levels in the process

[thin rose]

A week?

[bold quiver]

lies u can check my post, i said A WEEK OR SO

[pearl pebble]

whats the max stat roll for a worshio bronze obol? 1 worship power?

[swift hatch]

almost 2 weeks techniccally

[bold quiver]

then i even said to someone that sent a message "check when i finished leveling my GT

[night holly]

Right, you casually did it after jaeger posted that it was happening, and telling him it was probably an exploit,

But had absolutely no idea

[thin rose]

2 weeks is doable no?

[tacit tulip]

you still only gained 20 alchemy levels 😂

[snow light]

thank you reminds me i need to go upgrade my drippy drop

[lyric sequoia]

"or so" doesn't give you a range of a whole other week, at least not normally

[bold quiver]

no, not talking about the equinox thing. im talking about keeping the cauldron screen opened while doing CC o.o

thats how u know if your liquid is full to level GT lol, everyuone does that

[thin rose]

[bold quiver]

oh rly

english is not my main language lol i thought it did at least double of what u said

like, a month or so

[lyric sequoia]

When people say "a week or so" usually they mean maybe a day or 2 over it max

[bold quiver]

so it would be anything between a month, and 2 months

[signal osprey]

Your liquid 1 rates are still like 200 levels higher than any legit endgamer while having 20-30 less alch levels gained in the process

[bold quiver]

instead of saying a month and 20 days, i would say a month or so kkkkkk

[tacit tulip]

not just that but looks like he was telling people about it

[signal osprey]

Plus you have no idea of what a realistic time scale is because your time scale was super sped up

You obviously did something illegitimate even if it was unintentional

[pearl pebble]

ruh roh caught red handed

[signal osprey]

Although I know the details on the exploit and I'm gonna be honest its very hard to do accidentally lol

[weak vector]

got a question... does doot make your lab connections not show up in IE?

[signal osprey]

Not impossible but definitely unlikely

[tacit tulip]

ie doesn't show companions on public

so if you don't link to bear - it doesn't show up

[prisma drift]

Unlikely to do to that extent

[bold quiver]

but yeah, if u are saying that its impossible to level up GT the rate i did "which is all in pics posted with 123 liquid "which i also showed" there is indeed an exploit to get extra liquid while doing cc that i do not know of

but it should be something to do wth keeping cauldrons openeed to check liquid

[lyric sequoia]

Not that I should be a yard stick, but i did go from about 1500 to 3800 in 2 days with like 40 liquid rate

[bold quiver]

only dif thing i did while doing GT

[thin rose]

[swift hatch]

why are you still hard denying this with so much evidence lol just acknowledge it and move on

[prisma drift]

The cost adds up quick at 10k plus

[keen rapids]

You could've always said it was just photo shopped and let go of it O-o

[swift hatch]

Same but double that because I don't check often enough :)

[lyric sequoia]

mm yeah I guess, my cost is 244/219 atm

[night holly]

I was in W4 chat still while this was all happening. He's 100% full of shit. He also shits on people in that chat all day long until like the last week or so.

Constantly talks about the "ms necessary for chiz" so is absolutely using a little brother for gains and that's what he has his intervals set at.

And spent a lot of time talking about people exploiting using Dsync/ground clutter while magically posting huge gains in all areas afterwards.

none of which matters, but is hilarious when you spend all your free time shitting on other people for how bad they are at the game.

[pearl pebble]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/dWHvFbbXfAbYMeebdb/giphy.gif

[prisma drift]

7600 would be like 500/400 per level

Since it scales linear on cost

[bold quiver]

im not saying anything about my liquid rates lol. But if there is an exploit with the gain rate that still exists i'd like to at least post on bug reports so people can fix o.o

[tacit tulip]

yeah he's been proper agro here for months too, so it doesn't surprise me in the slightest

[swift hatch]

Why being agro about a single player game that people like to play casually xD weird af

[bold quiver]

agro? i never tell ppl how they should play their games lol

i only give best advice for optimal gameplay

o.o

[pearl pebble]

if ur shitting on other people in idleon that is something else lol

[lyric sequoia]

I've never seen brave shitting on people to be fair

I also never open w4 chat fwiw

[bold quiver]

i never shit on ppl lol

[paper sail]

This has become way more of a witch hunt.. Let's chill and move on. So uhhh sucks that I have no trees in my yard, but still get to clean up all the leaves from the trees in other yards

[pearl pebble]

yea idk, im just sayin

[bold quiver]

i may argue about best methods to do Y or X, but never attack people for no reason o.o oor if i wasnt attacked first

[barren otter]

I'm a hardcore idleon player

[keen rapids]

Invest in fences 😉

[snow light]

yeah hard to go hard in this game with real life getting in the way sometimes but that is the good thing the game plays even when you have other things to do

[lyric sequoia]

idk where Scoli lives, but if it's the US all states have a max fence height law that trees will far outgrow

[paper sail]

Trees are much taller than fences lmao

[bold quiver]

like i have pics of other endgame players here exploiting a bunch of stuff but i aint gonna be an ass and post just cuz im being acused of using somet unknown exploit to level GT

[keen rapids]

You have fence laws? 😮

[bold quiver]

im a cool guy

[weak vector]

why would you have photos of that?

[tacit tulip]

blackmail in case he gets caught 😄

[keen rapids]

Alrighty, invest in a rake D:

[lyric sequoia]

Okay having a blackmail folder is kinda weird

[elfin cape]

Isn't it because of that rich dude that made absolutely enormous fences around a dude's house to force him to sell?

[pearl pebble]

rake is highest ROI investment fr

[weak vector]

can also be a dick and leafblow them back onto other people's yards

[pearl pebble]

LOL

[weak vector]

definitely a lower ROI tho

[keen rapids]

Fr fr?

[bold quiver]

watchout people might say u are faking that even with pics

[pearl pebble]

its just two dudes blowing the leaves on other peoples yards everyday. leaf fight

[snow light]

especially because leafblowers are electric and battery operated i mean

[thin rose]

[keen rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-sospecha-mirada-look-gif-7194479

[bold quiver]

apparently its not possible to get from 8,5k to 12k in 16H if u have 123 liquid rate and 450k CC time

[tacit tulip]

yeah c'mon guys just click 24/7 for a few weeks and only gain a small % of the alchemy level you should gain under those circumstnaces

[lyric sequoia]

No point being passive aggressive about it, we're moving on here

[tacit tulip]

easy

[keen rapids]

or you could just hire a gardner 😮

[bold quiver]

sryi was being salty yet. ill move on

[pearl pebble]

yeah for real. if u dont want the exp then dont gain it!

[bold quiver]

yeah, cuz i even posted my GT progress over the corse of 2 weeks hahah

[snow light]

that requires money that i could be putting towards my single player multiplayer game

[swift hatch]

yeah but your doing calculations at 200ish liquid per click, now over triple that

[tacit tulip]

can I get a gardener to trim my gaming skill pls

[bold quiver]

final stretch was barely getting 1k levels!

[night holly]

"kinda" weird is downplaying it TBH.

[keen rapids]

He probably would if you paid him 😮

[thin rose]

Blackmail folder?

[keen rapids]

Convince him to get the game as well and you could share acc's 😉

[weak vector]

immediately lowers your ROI

[pearl pebble]

lol wtf who has a blackmail folder?

[pearl pebble]

have children and teach them to manage ur idleon account. 100% safe

[thin rose]

I could be wrong but I think they're referring to this #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[keen rapids]

That's a shout 😮

[thin rose]

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-smile-enjeru-gif-26119496

[keen rapids]

You could find a SO as well and they could help 😮

[snow light]

children? touch grass?

[keen rapids]

Get a whole family playing it

[thin rose]

Wrong ping buddy

[pearl pebble]

ah ur right. plan B: teach ur cat

[keen rapids]

Fs mb 😦

[lyric sequoia]

Big sad

[tacit tulip]

if you take away 10 this is basically my life

[lapis mesa]

ouch

[thin rose]

Nooo hotair

[quasi galleon]

F.gif lives up to its name

[snow light]

hey at least you didnt go all the way to 0

[pearl pebble]

u can go all the way to 0? wtf

i havent even unlocked this yet

[lyric sequoia]

If I was at snail 23 I'd be blackmailing that fucker until I was at 99% success chance

[weak vector]

Don't @ me j

[quasi galleon]

I wouldn't have been this far in the first place if I reset to 0

[signal osprey]

He did 12k to 16k in a day too though which is much less reasonable. Also despite having more decant levels and GT levels than almost every endgamer he has 10-20 less alch levels on his bubo

[thin rose]

He has the atom collider bonus so he can't

[keen rapids]

Yh but you can get an atom upgrade which every 5 lvls act's as a save point

[pearl pebble]

poggers

[bold quiver]

worst part is that it doesnt keep the increase level

[snow light]

oh cool but i dont have that yet nor do i have snail yet but i know how bad it can be for people sometimes

[pine yacht]

u can get the snail to 100 % success right ?... RIGHT ?

[weak vector]

can anybody do inspect element on the wiki and get the AUC of liquids from 12k to 16k?

[lyric sequoia]

I've pre-emptively had my snail atom bonus at 25 for months waiting for it to get 25

[thin rose]

Will take you 5 months but sure

[weak vector]

idk the equation otherwise i'd do it myself

[bold quiver]

u do realize that my picture from 13k and the other at 16k are in 2 diferent days right? please just checkthe time stamps

its not possible that u keep saying the same thing withotu even checking

[pine yacht]

not with my low ass lvl snail, only 10 more days or so

[lapis mesa]

i dont even make that many atoms 😦

[tacit tulip]

still ignoring the second bit tho aint ya 😄

[lyric sequoia]

Yeah 1 is 2pm 1 day, the other is 4pm the next day so a day in between, which is what Contract said

[bold quiver]

oh just by that perspective

[lyric sequoia]

Having omni procs on every character hard pushing printer helps

[bold quiver]

thanks for my GT journey is over

[lapis mesa]

Dooted?

[lyric sequoia]

yessum

[tacit tulip]

obivously also worth noting that to achieve what you did as your example, you'd need to click 24/7 for multiple days - the only way to do that would require a 🔨

[bold quiver]

🫡

[signal osprey]

Also worth mentioning that getting cauldron 1 to nearly 800 decants isnt even remotely doable either

[lapis mesa]

one day i can hope, got my treat to t5 and rolled a dupe ram

[keen rapids]

A hammer?

[night holly]

What do you even encourage to when your snail is that high.....

[lyric sequoia]

Just get 2 doots innit, that's what I did

[tacit tulip]

hopes and dreams

[quasi galleon]

I thought it was obvious that I'm not encouraging lol

[snow light]

so is it better to level up this stuff or save up for super bits/imports cause there is that 8 greenbit import

[night holly]

nothing is obvious when the numbers are that scary lol

[pearl pebble]

a special hammer

[bold quiver]

how come u are not encouraring yyour snaiil to evolve? havent u ever watched digimon?

[thin rose]

I think he means how is your balls that big to click that button

[lapis mesa]

geez, how many rolls?

[keen rapids]

Little bro's? o-o

[lyric sequoia]

err, sec

[quasi galleon]

Those evolutions are temporary. I want something more lasting. I figure enough disappointment will give it the drive it needs

[bold quiver]

Fair enough, just be careful not to evolve it into skull snail

[lyric sequoia]

92

[quasi galleon]

Doctors have been trying to figure out how I fit through doorways

[keen rapids]

Have you got it to rank 24 yet?

[quasi galleon]

No

[snow light]

ah the good ol' "dad is not mad just disapointed" tactic

[quasi galleon]

That was my first time being at 23

[lapis mesa]

oh cool, only 58 more to go til i match you

[quasi galleon]

20 -> 22 -> 20 is a common path

[keen rapids]

And last 😉

[quasi galleon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It is what it is

[rough wasp]

The Maplestory route except it goes 22 to 12

[keen rapids]

Anyone got rank 25 snail yet out of interest ;o

[thin rose]

Oh hotair, I think nyxon might be back again

[lyric sequoia]

I don't think my companion sample size is representative of your odds tbh, I didn't even break 3 figures when I went for it in terms of cash dropped

[quasi galleon]

Yeah, I figured he'd hiding somewhere

[thin rose]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[snow light]

im sorry what?

[bold quiver]

getting snail from 20-25 is easier than getting all accessories in BDO from tet to pen!! u guys have it easy

[lyric sequoia]

I didn't spend over $100 to get all the companions (and 2 doots), so my lluck is not representative of the luck you should expect when looking for doot 😛

[quasi galleon]

Oof all around on that account. Nuked

[bold quiver]

omg i gotta check nyxon new persona

holy shit i clicked the link and it was something crazy already

[snow light]

time to go grind pots for shards for mason jar again...

[bold quiver]

speedrunning to ban

dude, that stamp is insane for more liquid

[rough wasp]

Made it easier

[thin rose]

There's always @finite sparrow he still has that one, he's just very sneaky

[bold quiver]

mine is at 125, each lvl helps a lot

[bold quiver]

if i were still a mod i'd hammer him!

[thin rose]

Need proof

[bold quiver]

dont need proof when u are a mod!

[keen rapids]

you kinda do -.-

[lyric sequoia]

What the hell, you're only allowed to buy 100k obol packs max? Not nearly enough

[snow light]

be like the gods of this chat and have 25. DR idk how to achieve that level of greatness

[night holly]

lol that made me giggle

[bold quiver]

so thats why i couldnt buy more obol packs! knew something was wrong

[rough wasp]

Surely this is without discounts tho

[bold quiver]

gotta stack those obols

[obsidian kayak]

how do you which random skill exp requirement vman lowers with crystal countdown?

[snow light]

another god soon rises

[snow light]

idk what people use but i use idleonefficancy it shows on the character tab after you link your account i think most people say depending on the map usually about 2-3 hours based off your crystal rate and how fast you can kill the mob all the skills will reach max

[obsidian kayak]

oh sounds good thank you

[bold quiver]

I prefer idleontoolbox, it shows the vman skill cap on main screen

[snow light]

like this

[bold quiver]

shows here

[thin rose]

I love IT

[obsidian kayak]

if you switch skill builds does it still carry over?

[thin rose]

It tells me when my printer procs are ready

[rough wasp]

I was like I don’t remember this shit being that much I think mine is 80 rn but I’m waiting for the 90% stack

[obsidian kayak]

the exp reduction i mean

[thin rose]

[rough wasp]

gotta keep clicking

[bold quiver]

reset every level up

[obsidian kayak]

ok thank thank

[bold quiver]

lend me some of your fingers!!! i cant bring myself to hourly click bubbles

[snow light]

depending on what your skill exp is percentage wise you can level skills just by killing crystal mobs

[bold quiver]

i'd rather run colloseum for 10h straight

@thin rose hey, how many golden kebabs u have? and do they give u a decent dm boost?

[rough wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-gif-23756243

[bold quiver]

im wondering if i should run w2 coloseum a little for those

[rough wasp]

Need to click my chems soon

[thin rose]

In total maybe 40k? But golden kebabs gave an INSANE damage boost

[bold quiver]

how many do u save for optimal results? gonna mimic you

[rough wasp]

I click once a day lmaooo

Usually like 12-15

[bold quiver]

gotcha, i'll keep w2 colo running when i have time to get some then. i only have 6k

[bold quiver]

ill save that

[rough wasp]

Then depends how much cycle I get. Too lazy to click more than 1x a day too

[bold quiver]

true that would be annoying

but doesnt it take a lot of time to also get a bunch of chemicals?, my biggest problem is getting the will to try and save those

[lyric sequoia]

You know what'd be cool in w6? An upgrade that lets you tag bubbles so the game auto levels it when you have enough resource to do it

[rough wasp]

I usually get enough to evo to T5

[bold quiver]

vote for president

[rough wasp]

If I have Chema leftover not T5 I don’t click

[lyric sequoia]

Limit 5 or something, but being able to autoclick GT and bubble 1s and maybe bob would be cool

[rough wasp]

Save those for tmr

[raven raven]

New in W5, just dumped all 10 chars in divinity. Any way to make this suck less lmao

[bold quiver]

yeah, not having away to autoclick bubbles is so sad

like check my bubbles, they have been like this for months

[pastel bramble]

so inefficient so many wasted nugs

[eternal wasp]

You can't, go back to do something and leave characters on the altar

[raven raven]

Rip

[rough wasp]

I’m lazy

[bold quiver]

if lava is a cool guy he will create a W6 mechanic to autolevel cauldron bubbles

[rough wasp]

takes too much time

[pastel bramble]

but the nugs

[rough wasp]

fuck those nugs

[bold quiver]

its so sad that the wall between people that keep clicking bubbles and non people gets monumentaly higher over time

[pastel bramble]

im still praying for my 10 digit nug

[snow light]

not really its just a grind like lab i wouldnt be surprised if there was a skill like that in W6 where you are gonna need to dump all your characters

[bold quiver]

since he wont fix the stash stack limit he should at least allow everyone to lvl bubbles efficiently

[rough wasp]

Me too

You were 5m right?

[tawny gale]

Do nuggie increase bit gains

[rough wasp]

Or am I mixing u up with someone else

[bold quiver]

damn what is your current nugget

[pastel bramble]

nah i 35m

[rough wasp]

oh I was mixing u up with someone else

[bold quiver]

last time i saved i got screwe by a 10k increase and lost the will to do nuggets

[tawny gale]

Have 1.5m bits and in early w5

[bold quiver]

had over 3.5k saved

[rough wasp]

ok you get a higher nugget and u hand that down to me @pastel bramble

[tawny gale]

What does nuggets do can anyone explain

[pastel bramble]

i get like 100 1-7m value nugs per day 😂

[bold quiver]

i'd be so afraid of getting a small increase kkkkkkk

[pastel bramble]

they increase bit gain by however high the number is

[rough wasp]

Nuggets are pretty op

[pine yacht]

little shits just refuse to get to t5...

[pastel bramble]

why t5

[tawny gale]

Is it power or multiplier

Or additive

[bold quiver]

+1 extra nugget if u dont have fractal boost

[pine yacht]

1 day and 1 chem=1 log

[pastel bramble]

multiplier by nugget value

[tawny gale]

Noice

[pastel bramble]

yh. but also very inefficient for time taken to reach t5 lol, ud prob turn most of them t5 by popping a chem/dead log

[tawny gale]

The second accessory

[lyric sequoia]

The short answer is that you want a fat off nug

[pine yacht]

if I popped all but one I'd maybe get one to t5

[rough wasp]

How many nugs are you at now Michael?

[pastel bramble]

maybe ur dead log reset chance is low though but i get chems like candy

[bold quiver]

i wouldnt wait to T5 then if your chance isnt that great

[pastel bramble]

4.8k since reset

[bold quiver]

but even then u still have a lot of space for chemicals so i guess its cool right?

i'd pop one if i got to 15-17 chemicals and no T5

[pine yacht]

so far this strat gave me the best boost, so imma stick to it for now

[pastel bramble]

from my very long gaming experience, its better to use t4 😄

[rough wasp]

I’m just lazy

[pine yacht]

I was poping them at T4 before and it was dogwater compared to this

[bold quiver]

madrecita de guardalupe wow

[pearl pebble]

lol what if thats a feature in w7, the autoclick feature XD

[bold quiver]

oh yeah T5 is much better i agre also

cuz u have to waste 2 T4 to get 1 log

[rough wasp]

When Chem cycles get long

[pine yacht]

ye logs are nuts

[pastel bramble]

T5 just feels better because it satisfies you more, but calculate ur daily bits and ull get way less than t4s

[bold quiver]

yesterday i got a 3 day log!

it had been months since my last 3 day

[pine yacht]

idk if my highest is 1 or 1.5 days

[bold quiver]

hmm intereesting

is that with our without kitsune?

[pastel bramble]

side note, 2m plants hit

i dont use kitsune im too lazy

[pine yacht]

ah

[bold quiver]

without itsune i also prefer 16h

kitsune sucks for bits

[pastel bramble]

always got it turned off lol

[pine yacht]

I am mainly trying to get some evos since I still havent seen a single T6

had it for months

[pastel bramble]

u get t6s naturally from dead log/chem chains

[rough wasp]

Mine is always on lol

[pastel bramble]

whats ur evo chance lol

[pastel bramble]

always on and u farm once per day too?

[rough wasp]

Don’t care about bits that much rn

[bold quiver]

i think that if i get a 100M nugget i wil be able to reach 90Q "easily"

[pastel bramble]

whats the point of having it turned on if u farm once per day 😄

[bold quiver]

exactly kkkkkkkkkkk

[rough wasp]

I click it still sometimes

I’m just too lazy to turn it off now

[pastel bramble]

ur just very unlucky then haha i get t6 maybe 2-4 times a day id guess from what i pay attention

[bold quiver]

i turned mine on cuz i wanted to click chemicals. Then igave up after 1 night of clicking chemicals, worth

[pine yacht]

lul

[rough wasp]

The best T6 are the ones you don’t go for

[bold quiver]

shit was too annoying

[pastel bramble]

this t6 is my most common

[pine yacht]

still waiting on this shit as well

[pastel bramble]

i hate it cause it cant spawn chems and it blocks spawn slots when rushing

[bold quiver]

damn didnt know htat

i still wonder why couldnt lava allow us to move plants........

having to dodge chemicals to click stuff is hjorrible

[pastel bramble]

ya i misclick alot everyday hahaha

and waste nug rolls 😭 so precious

[pine yacht]

lol I never had that prob

[bold quiver]

D:

[pine yacht]

could be something related to having 20 plants ?

[bold quiver]

yesterday i clicked harvest all by mistake and lost 6 chemicals! so sad

[night holly]

I just abuse PO to build up chems.

[pastel bramble]

no just fat fingers

[bold quiver]

what is PO?

oh post office

true i thought about abusing that, but it would be madness

[pine yacht]

lol

[bold quiver]

u can easily get a full screen with only a few minutes claim right

[pastel bramble]

its more like 2-5 plants

unless his growth speed is crazy

per 2min claim

[bold quiver]

with kitsune ON its full iirc

[night holly]

15-20 min claims are like a full cycle w/ kitsune depending on fert rank.

[pastel bramble]

yh but kitsune is not for me 😄

[bold quiver]

yeah, and swapping characters for more chems is def not for me kkkkkk

i hate clicking stuff

[pine yacht]

I tought I'd be done with this shit like 5 days ago... let me out

[bold quiver]

vman not doing his job properly

[pine yacht]

ES

[night holly]

Kitsune so good for nug farm tho 😦

[pine yacht]

was in the process of farming Statues

[pastel bramble]

if ur active for a huge part of ur day sure, but if u want to claim hourly u cant 😄

i claim hourly, i couldnt use kitsune it would waste alot of bits

[pine yacht]

I am most likely gonna give up on last 3 statues I need until I get more DR, MK etc.

[keen rapids]

What's your printing sample s ize 😮

[pine yacht]

hell if I know

[bold quiver]

use vman

[pine yacht]

oh u mean sample size or sample rate ?

[keen rapids]

how much are you producing per hour

[rough wasp]

You convinced me to click

[pine yacht]

none, since I havent sampled those XD

[keen rapids]

oh yourj ust manually farming out the 1b?

[pine yacht]

with ES yes, since I needed the statues

[keen rapids]

Isn't farming statues with dk better :o?

[bold quiver]

2 birds 1 stone

[keen rapids]

oh i guess depends on statue

[bold quiver]

only crystal statues

[keen rapids]

Yh ^

[pine yacht]

3 statues that drop in W3 since they arent rare bag drop

in the meantime Vman is printing bullfrog horns

[keen rapids]

Why? ;o

vial?

[kindred dagger]

Should I keep any of these for the endgame board, or only keep the ones that also add XP?

[keen rapids]

or salts

[bold quiver]

only player construct EXP

[pine yacht]

ye

[bold quiver]

everything else u can trash

[zealous niche]

I used build rate for placeholders

[snow light]

keep only exp because of the alchemy bubble will usually outscale evvery cog you can make

[bold quiver]

yeah some ppl use build rate builds also, so its up to u.

[zealous niche]

Once I got any player construct exp ones they got swapped out, even a build rate one with lower br but a higher player % went in

That player exp is all that matters

[kindred dagger]

So for example, this one is trash correct? I'm running out of room, so I need to make a decision lol.

Thx.

[zealous niche]

That’s a placeholder cog if it goes on your board at all

[snow light]

whats important from what i was told the other day is the bottom number because it is multiplicitive so it is stronger than just 33%

[zealous niche]

It is still 33%, but it’s 33% of your other multi rather than just adding 33% on top of thousands of % already there

[quiet pewter]

sort of, more accuratly, its a seperate multiplier which sums with other similar ones - yeah what aj said

[rough wasp]

I finally finished this

[snow light]

so because i have 2.98k it multiplies that by 33%?

[zealous niche]

33% of 1M is more than 33% of $1 but they’re both 33% still

[quiet pewter]

if its the only one you have yes. otherwise no. if you already have one at say 50% it will add to that giving 83% then multiply by that

[zealous niche]

Only for players in its aoe

[snow light]

both my DKs are in it's aoe

[zealous niche]

Still adding 33% of the other multi on regardless

[quiet pewter]

which is distinctly worse than x1.33

[zealous niche]

True, how you word it matters

Fair point

[snow light]

time to go play my favorite sub game cog clicker to get better exp cogs then

[quiet pewter]

does getting golden twice ever stop sucking?

[tacit tulip]

once you have about 30

it tends to suck less

[pine yacht]

what golden ?

twine ?

[swift bloom]

dont forget the second best sub game, sorting the cogs!

[slender sandal]

it wasn't bad when floms was the place you'd park your bubo lol

[tacit tulip]

you /did/ need 10 then, though 😄

[slender sandal]

true

[quiet pewter]

lol well tahts true. im at 18/30 of it sucking less then

have just been passing armour around up till now cuz lab dwellers mostly dont need it, but figured screw it imma kit everyone out with good gear before w6 (saving upgradings till w6 stones)

[slender sandal]

w6 is going to have replacements which will probably use said gear so just upgrade it 😄

and then the new gear will use w6 stones

[quiet pewter]

yeah but it will jsut be sitting in tubes so doesnt really matter if i delay upgrade stones

[pine yacht]

anyone have that cog bot ?

link to it that is

[analog bone]

short question how many hours and days did it took yall to reach world 5?

[potent maple]

diff for everyone since a lot were around before w5 came out, so it sounds bad that it took me over year to get it 😄

[pearl pebble]

i think i active played for a month and got to w5. or a little longer

[analog bone]

but even when you do the w5 boss theres still plenty of things to do rigth?

[potent maple]

YES.

[fallow aurora]

should I double 12% skill afk gain or should I double 20% all skill efficiency

[pearl pebble]

plenty is an understatement, yes. ive not run out of anything to do everyday for the past 2 months and i have not reached the boss yet

[potent maple]

like go back and keep working on all the world 1-4 skills that were neglected in rushing to w5, and ofc new content in the future as well

[analog bone]

ok good thanks yall

[pearl pebble]

does multikill effect miniboss drops

[pine yacht]

depends on the skill, but usually skill afk is better

[potent maple]

you can do a test with 1-hr candy on both to see your particular situation

[pine yacht]

or just you know... look at your afk tab

[potent maple]

depends on if you're going for mats or exp, where your breakpoints are

[pine yacht]

both get displayed in afk tab

[potent maple]

that sounds difficult 😄

[pine yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/drulz-reading-reading-is-hard-eyeglasses-bubblegum-gif-17207753

[finite sparrow]

@thin rose Why did you ping me?

[steady beacon]

What's the best f2p name tag for mob sampling? Any suggestions?

[paper sail]

Whatever you have

[vapid warren]

What do you guys think I should spend my first 100 hampters on, Larger material pouch.... or upgraded weapon, both would be for ES

[paper sail]

Your choice is what, %stats from Shovel and...?

[paper sail]

Material Pouch imo

[pearl pebble]

pouch if u can upgrade stamps and alch

[pine yacht]

that aint even f2p

oh right that one is

[paper sail]

A free nametag from the Summer event isn't f2p?

[pine yacht]

I got it mixed with the one from island pack

I missed that one, since I boycoted for a month after followers

[steady beacon]

Yeah, I have the shovel stats one.

[paper sail]

I don't think any other F2P nametags would have any impact at all.

[steady beacon]

But was wondering if there was anything else I could work towards.

And for non f2p, what's the best one?

Never mind, I can go look at the wiki. 🙂

Thanks!

[pearl pebble]

does multikill count as multiple kills for cc lol

ty

[paper sail]

Island Expeditions nametag I believe

[pearl pebble]

isnt that one fishing

[paper sail]

Also 10% fight afk, for some reason

[lyric sequoia]

Boat statue drop rate is so much lower than turkey

[pine yacht]

I played cog clicker for about an hour and reduced my BR by about 2M, 1 star this game sucks

[lyric sequoia]

L

[potent panther]

how rare is molten knuckle recipe?

[lyric sequoia]

The rareness it says on the suggma card

[potent panther]

what do it say?

[lyric sequoia]

No idea, I have it already

[potent panther]

[lyric sequoia]

It's rare innit

[zealous niche]

1 in 50m

[potent panther]

very helpful u were

[zealous niche]

Rarest drop in the game

[potent panther]

dayum

[lyric sequoia]

Well y'know, I figured I'd give more direction than "reading hard"

[zealous niche]

For now

[paper sail]

They told you how to find the information yourself Don't except everyone in Discord to just be your personal butler.

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/d995a8915348f8445ad1f40ce60bdf5d.png

[paper sail]

Noice

[solar forge]

around 25days

[lyric sequoia]

um, 3 or 4 years? something like that

World 5 didn't exist for most of that time though

If you mean since it came out, 3 minutes ish?

[untold saffron]

just under 4 weeks for me

but i was rushing

[solar forge]

he has green discord mark so I'm quite sure he is asking how long it took for new players :D

[lyric sequoia]

Nah couldn't be

Just have a time machine and start playing years ago, ez

[hollow sandal]

Day 9003 of no recipe

[solar forge]

but if I started playing years ago, I would be more sad due to doot existing

[lyric sequoia]

Nah you'd be over it by now, I have a pretty good source on that

[potent maple]

i'd say i'm over it myself but there is a scar

[solar forge]

going for my 5th slime on monday

[obtuse rover]

Doot was a pretty unfortunately-designed and deployed addition to Idleon

[lyric sequoia]

Also you'd probably be way more jaded to it if you had started years ago, so would've hit you less

Game has been heading that way since world 3, who'd have guess he-who-shall-not-be-named had the ability of foresight

[snow light]

i truly dread me farming those knuckles now...

[hollow sandal]

Yes fear it

though you probably got higher DR than me so wont be as bad

[snow light]

12-13 when i have taken out the weekly boss...

[hollow sandal]

ah about the same as me then

gl

[snow light]

ty ty but that is why i am working on this

[hollow sandal]

I dont think ive even touched plunderous kills

[snow light]

most people stop at 10k or 100k cause the atom collider gives them the next pow 10

[hollow sandal]

Ig ill sit at shrooms with this guy

[rich epoch]

gj neglecting one of the strongest buffs in the game

[hollow sandal]

Thats just me in a nutshell okay

[potent maple]

oh oh same

except i neglect everything

[rich epoch]

it is me too so that's why I can congratulate you

[hollow sandal]

[snow light]

me too

[hollow sandal]

wheres even best place to farm plunderous kills?

[snow light]

where you can one shot the plunderous enemies

[potent maple]

when im active playing, i spend as much time reading chat then remembering what i was trying to do back in the game, before going back to the game and getting distracted by something

[snow light]

its different for everyone because their dmg is different

[hollow sandal]

Only sitting at around 200m dmg

[snow light]

shrooms is a good starting point maybe try clammies in W4

depends on if you want exp as well or just pure plunderous kills i want pure kills to get my forge going so i am sitting at shrooms gets a lot of things done honestly

[potent maple]

i've gotten better recently because i made a list of my long term goals (vials, ladles, dreams, etc) so that I don't forget why I had a particular character doing a certain thing. i kept doing things on a whim and that wasn't getting me anywhere

[elfin flicker]

anyone encountered where you bubo don't cast any skills beside the movement skill one?

oh wait, fck me. the phase shift whatever it is the one thats not allowing it to cast any skills

[rare portal]

what is min dmg for kattlekrug

[potent maple]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Kattlecruk

[rare portal]

ik

100b

but min dmg is ?

[elfin flicker]

i did it with 400m lol. think you can do 100m easy

[rare portal]

alr ty

would elemental sorcery be good ? for that

to kill the moles

[elfin flicker]

yeah, or do sb

[oak hemlock]

Guys,does prayer with -exp reduce exp from hunter's Eagle eye for all chars?

[golden zephyr]

THE NUGGET!

[storm kelp]

if you had it equipped on the character youused to set up the traps then yes, otherwise if you are collecting or equipped the prayer afterwards then you are fine

[oak hemlock]

Thanks dude)

[teal lynx]

Chiming in on this pretty late, but the Atom Collider doesn't work for Plunder Kills. It specifically mentions "Power of 10 resources you own". Kills are not a resource
People are only stopping at 100k, cuz 1m takes like 2 months to get and people often times have better things to do / can't stand looking at SB for months like me

[chrome tiger]

net damage boost was just under 2%

[rough wasp]

Do it go for 1M. you knmow you want to

[teal lynx]

I went for 100k this week. I won't go to 1m just yet

Sand pots until mason is 108/112

[chrome tiger]

go for 200k, then 300k, and continue forever

[signal osprey]

1m plunder might be a fun goal to start on after my sample

[teal lynx]

DK has drop rate breakpoints every xx.50x dr right?
Can someone explain to me what exactly increases?

[rough wasp]

pretty sure thats for bean statues

[obtuse rover]

That will detract from your active BM time, though

[rough wasp]

Can't waiot to do that

[teal lynx]

Oh makes sense then. So more Statues

[signal osprey]

.51x DR is to get an extra statue drop from W1 crystals yeah

[signal osprey]

Not sure i see myself doing that one

[crystal temple]

Im still 250k plunder kills away from that million. no idea how long ive been going but too darn long

[rough wasp]

You say that now Contract

but we all know you'll go for lv 10

[signal osprey]

Well ofc ill go for 10

[chrome tiger]

what map you doing

[signal osprey]

That doesn't mean I need BM though. I have a couple pets at 9 just passively

[chrome tiger]

big worms?

[crystal temple]

im doing citringes

[obtuse rover]

Same, this is what I'm sitting at for a few pets without ever using active BM

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-contemplate-alone-sad-gif-3541382

[obtuse rover]

Still sort of tempted to reserve some time for active BM nonetheless, though.

[signal osprey]

I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of active BM

[storm kelp]

I too hate myself

[signal osprey]

I just feel like I have more pressing issues to work on first though

November 29th is the confirmed resample date so its beans time

[rough wasp]

I hate GT

[obtuse rover]

W6 confirmed Nov. 30th based on this, can't wait!

[signal osprey]

And I also have not done any bubo with the new equinox bonus so I kinda wanna beef up the cauldrons a bit before W6

If its that easy to push forward the W6 release I can technically resample on my next weekly reset

[rough wasp]

whats ur DR on beans now

[signal osprey]

Which would be this Wednesday

I still have a lot I should do before I sample though

[rough wasp]

2.5B soon Contract

[signal osprey]

Oh yeah thats guaranteed

[tacit tulip]

should take you about 12 hours to get to 800 cauldrons right?

[signal osprey]

I did a new test today and I'm looking at 2.44b on 7 goats or 2.49b at 9 goats

And I'm just starting on equinox symbols too. By the time sample day comes its a question of whether or not i can get 2.6b not 2.5b

[rough wasp]

I want those equinox symbols but ik im not gonna be able to get it

[tacit tulip]

that's a w6 buff for the sane

[signal osprey]

Itll be easy enough to do in W6

[rough wasp]

yea

waiting for w6

[sonic rivet]

im doing the grandfrogger for equinox

and i never have enough materials to summon the 3rd/4th boss?

doing the equinox solo challenge, what is going on

[obtuse rover]

Sounds like you have low DR

[tacit tulip]

drop rate within dungeons impacts the mobs materials too

[sonic rivet]

oh fr

[tacit tulip]

it's also possible to drop your stuff too early and lose it

[sonic rivet]

how much is required for each boss?

may be im just mass dropping them

[tacit tulip]

you can drop a full stack and it'll only eat what is needed

but if you re-drop it after you lose it

dropping wrong stacks eats them too

[signal osprey]

The atom only applies to the resource power of 10 talents

[obtuse rover]

There's a number spinning around the cauldron to show the number needed.

Like Sakori says, you can drop the full stack when it's needed and it'll only eat the correct number. But if you drop a material when it's not needed, the whole stack will be consumed.

[sonic rivet]

ok so only input what is spinning around the caludren?

[tacit tulip]

what I do is play with auto loot until stage 3, then turn if off as it doesn't matter what goes in

as stage 4 is new items

it's less things than you think unfortunately

[signal osprey]

Copper, green leaves, oak logs, green souls, froges, and redox salts all have an associated talent that benefits from the atom. Thats it afaik

[tacit tulip]

soundsa bout right

Soemone told me leaves don't work a while back but I tested it, and it seemed like it worked fine

[rough wasp]

Just all the skilling ones basically

[rough wasp]

It's prob cause the talent used to be bugged?

[tacit tulip]

yeah I think they thought it was still bugged

[sonic rivet]

wow literally missing one eye looking thing for grandfrogger

wtf

[keen rapids]

yh happens all the time D:

all you can really do is chop the tree for more mobs or go for droprate when the dungeon starts ;/

[tacit tulip]

I've not had it happen ni quite a while

though I pick the drop rate items when I see them just in case

[teal lynx]

19.6x dr. Still got 7/8 equi upgrades (Thanks to 1 B Sample this Week) and I still need a Trophy doubler. So 20.5x dr or more is totally doable for me without more effort

[tacit tulip]

thems some good DR

[rough wasp]

You have pack too? 0:

[teal lynx]

Yeah haha

No Molten Cape, No Fomo keychains tho

[rough wasp]

I want fomo keychains too

BRING THEM LAVA

[teal lynx]

I gotta look at the Chart at some point. I think I can upgrade my Keychains from 5/5 and 5 dr to 8/8 and 8/8, but nothing else I can do without paying I think (Fuck 1 M Plunder for now)

[rough wasp]

I think you have a bit to go still

[tacit tulip]

if w6 isn't out by the time I have 20k GT I'm gonna start on plunder again

[rough wasp]

i hate clicking GT but im doing it now

[teal lynx]

Gonna fill out the Sheet really quick. Never used it before, so gonna take a minute or two

[rough wasp]

Someone did the sheet for me

[tacit tulip]

I only started because of equinox

[sonic rivet]

okie did the 3rd boss got about 20ish of the mob drops for grandfrogger, they just kept killing me 😦

[pine yacht]

there's no way to share IT besides... yk screenshots, right ?

[rough wasp]

Me too, I clicked it before a bit but I would always stop

[rough wasp]

You can share

[tacit tulip]

Should hit 15k before I go to bed at least

[pine yacht]

ah, I kinda need help figuring out what to do buy with gems next

[rough wasp]

Can you give me your first keychain

[pine yacht]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?pb=VaRBaE4N

[teal lynx]

Brightside/Doot Ruby Cards, Star Talent to 100, a little more from guild, better obols (RNG), Bubble, Stamp -> Gonna upgrade to lvl 150 right now, shiny pets, better keychains
Really alot I can still do without too much effort

[rough wasp]

Oh you don't have card doublers?

[signal osprey]

Dk doubles crystal cards

[teal lynx]

I double crystal cards

[rough wasp]

oh wait

idk why i thought that

my brain mushy

[teal lynx]

My dr with 6 star cards, molten cape, trophy doubler, 16 equi upgrades and slightly better shiny pets

21.67 ain't too bad

[signal osprey]

6* chiz card as well

[rough wasp]

Just thinking where im higher

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah. Pumps it up to 21.72x

[signal osprey]

Also the guild bonus is supposed to be the talent level not the actual bonus

[rough wasp]

i also always use Luckier Lad

[teal lynx]

Oh

Luckier Lad would put me to 22.07x then

[sacred verge]

whats ur SB plunder kills?

[signal osprey]

5k family

[sacred verge]

5k family would be a dream

[teal lynx]

100k more or less. Haven't checked my exact value, didn't wanna break my con snapshot

[rough wasp]

I'm never doing plunders again

[signal osprey]

Its a great dream. Bigger DR, bigger con snaps, and bigger samples

[tacit tulip]

those 3% bigger gaming gains compell you

[sacred verge]

mine is just at 18k iirc

sad sad plunder stats

[signal osprey]

Can check your kills by looking at W4 achievements

[rough wasp]

I spent ~week doing plunders

it was a miserable week

[sacred verge]

im not sure if i should pause beans for plunder

[teal lynx]

102k

[teal lynx]

YES! Did it this week from 25k to 102k and went up .40x dr

[sacred verge]

whats ur DR at now?

[teal lynx]

Gave me a .51x dk breakpoint

19.64x

[sacred verge]

sounds nice

[signal osprey]

And it only gets better as you get more sources of DR finished

[sacred verge]

hehe

[signal osprey]

100k plunder is a very good goal to push for

[sacred verge]

im missing the damn trophy doubler aswell

[signal osprey]

November 29th is next trophy doubler

[sacred verge]

i would love to hit that damn 20 dr on my DK

[sacred verge]

yeah, looking forward to it

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Here is my slightly scuffed dr estimate after upgrading basic stuff. After some tweaking afterwards I got to an estimate of 22.07x dr

[sacred verge]

you must be missing some stuff tho as you sit quite a bit lower than me with 100k plunder vs my 20k

[teal lynx]

Trophy doubler, molten cape, 6 Star Cards. Some of those probably

[sacred verge]

yeah

[teal lynx]

Mr Brightside, Doot or Chiz

[sacred verge]

im more or less only missing plunder and doubler

guess im missing this aswell

and ruby boss card set

[rough wasp]

Get the bubble up

[teal lynx]

Yep, Boss set is still golden for me 🤭

[sacred verge]

bubble?

[bold quiver]

wow 36%, thats extreemely clicky

[sacred verge]

im really not that far off on the boss cards

[tacit tulip]

bosses was the one thing I wasn't lazy about

[rough wasp]

I wasted alot of clicks on this for fun lol

[tacit tulip]

can't wait to lose it when w6 comes out

[sacred verge]

does it downgrade when w6 hits?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

the extra slots get added so you're not maxed anymore

if you never unequip it it technically keeps the full bonus

[sacred verge]

before boss release?

[teal lynx]

Maybe lava gives us advanced boss set

[tacit tulip]

w4/5 both added the boss card before the bosses

[sick sentinel]

Yup

[sacred verge]

damn

when i think about it i can remember

well well

[bold quiver]

gotta sell those card packs somehow

[sacred verge]

might aswell not worry about getting it to ruby then

[tacit tulip]

main benefit would be to keep your 4* threshold

[sacred verge]

yeah that would be nice

probably will do enough to keep it

[tacit tulip]

assuming 3 cards with 6 levels, max now would be 132/150. 125 is the threshold for 4*

so you need all but 7 maxed when w6 comes out

[bold quiver]

damn losing the 6* card set will be bad, didnt know that

[sacred verge]

im at 117 so thats very doable

also a few of mine are very easy

[tacit tulip]

yeah, could card namarok and nm kattle but the rest are perfectly grindable

[bold quiver]

@rough wasp the quality of candy from w2 colo compared to w3 sucks

[sweet mountain]

What's a good strategy for this?

[tacit tulip]

skill eff is the best thing in there

[sweet mountain]

Should I go for the skill book before? Is it any good?

[bold quiver]

book is nice

[rough wasp]

GS the cookies

[weak vector]

ehh

it's less than an opal

[tacit tulip]

doesn't take an opol slot tho 😄

[bold quiver]

not that much

[signal osprey]

Plus all stat doesnt affect total stats so you actually get a lot less than what it says

[weak vector]

that's also for 200 star talents too

[bold quiver]

i'd go for book, not like that extra eff matter anyway, too expensive

[tacit tulip]

compared to the w5 talent which is flat 300 at any rate

[signal osprey]

Unless you get lucky on the book and drop it early its not as good as just investing into the other shimmer upgrades first

[bold quiver]

at least with book u can complete your star talents unlock, pretty nice

[paper sail]

I go for the base stats (WIS -> STR -> AGI), then Skill Eff. Each one leveled until the cost to level it increases

[sacred verge]

i did the same

[bold quiver]

how many points is that

[signal osprey]

My bubo got roughly a 1% increase to wisdom when I maxed this

Its additive with other sources of all stats and then that whole total group completely ignores any stats you get from bubble 1's as well

The book is okay but on average you get more value per point just getting base stats and efficiency assuming you dont get lucky with an early book drop

[sacred verge]

so what ur saying is the better the player the worse the talent 😛

[signal osprey]

At least for the first couple hundred points or so. Once your upgrade cost scales up eventually youll want the book

[rough wasp]

Can you show your shimmer upgrades?\

[signal osprey]

If you mean the 15% category on the DR sheet that was the limited shop chain. It gave 15/10

[weak vector]

In an ideal world, you can keep fighting the dummy, improving your stats, improving your damage, improving your DPS, improving your stats.... But not really

[rough wasp]

I may have upgraded the skill eff too much

[bold quiver]

what is yours at

[rough wasp]

25 or smt

25/26

[signal osprey]

No such thing as too much its the strongest bonus there. Its in a relatively small group so it actually makes a difference

[bold quiver]

same as me, 26

[rough wasp]

I didnt level the base stats that much

I just saw skill eff and neurons activated

[bold quiver]

i wasted weeks getting the book, worth

[sweet mountain]

Yeah, considering my dummy DPS would be around 30T, I guess I will ignore the book for now.

[bold quiver]

wht can i say, i like getting those stuff D:

as long as there isnt any real use to efficiency or so i prefer grabbing those things

[signal osprey]

Its still just a relic chain like any of the other ones it just had fixed values

[bold quiver]

@rough wasp checkout mine

when i have leftover thing i use on dmg!

[sacred verge]

do we have any clues as to when w6 might drop?

or nothing more than "not soon"

[signal osprey]

Its definitely not soon

Lava is just getting started on the second skill

[weak vector]

^was literally typing the same thing

[modern plaza]

just wait till we have 1e120 dps

[bold quiver]

christmas gift

[sacred verge]

how should i setup my SB for plunder kills?

any tips

or any maps etc that would be smart to consider

[sick sentinel]

Ojs best plunder. Wurms best all around. Max attack talents and crystal chance

[desert night]

Voidwalker boosted skill, pick a map that you can 1 hit kill the plunderous mob. There's probably more suggestions, that's what I can think of.

[sacred verge]

im gonna 1shot no matter what, hehe

any1 tested the different w5 maps? might wanto grab the last eclipses while i go but im gonna avoid it if its to much plunder loss ( i know it depends on map)

[tacit tulip]

iirc someone did the w5 ruby cards while plundering

just due to lack of better things to do

[sacred verge]

yeah i remember that aswell

might have been contract?

[sick sentinel]

Its always contract

[sacred verge]

lol

[bright current]

if im farming basic mob drops on my ES, i shud have the MK cards on the doubling spots right?

[sacred verge]

iirc he ended at 440k plunder (something like that )

[sick sentinel]

I would think drop rate or dmg for more portal kills if it gives it to you

Worth testing on a full portal with dif setups

[bright current]

truu

ill play around

[sacred verge]

the question remains now if i should bother changing my full DR setup to SB for plunderkills

[bright current]

depends how many plunder kills ur after

[sacred verge]

that depends entierly on how long i can endure the plunder grind

from past experience its not long

[bright current]

are u over 100k atm?

[sacred verge]

nah not even close

18k

[tacit tulip]

max rate at citringes is like 22k a day

[sacred verge]

thats actually more than expected

[keen rapids]

Is plunder worth it and to how many kills? o-o

[tacit tulip]

100k is absolutely worth knocking out if you have the talents levelled appropriately

[rough wasp]

plunder might be one of the best talents in the game

[sacred verge]

10k is a minimum

[rough wasp]

but 1m is such a pain

[tacit tulip]

1mil for the achievement is if you are a masochist

[sacred verge]

orb*

[bright current]

the square MUST be lit up

[vapid cove]

how many weeks will that take

[rough wasp]

alot of weeks

[vapid cove]

I kinda wanna go for the 1 mil plunder

[tacit tulip]

assuming 20k a day you're looking at 50 days, or almost 2 months

[vapid cove]

yeeeee

[keen rapids]

By the time you finish plunder achievement w6 will be out 😉

[obtuse rover]

If you're ever considering doubling MK cards, just replace those chips with more wood chips. They'll give more MK than doubling those cards.

In general though, DR cards are more effective to double for most people.

[bright current]

might make it just in time for W6

[tacit tulip]

in theory world 6 will provide us with more talent levels which should make plunder levelling ever so slightly faster

as you'll get more hits on your aoe skills

[teal lynx]

Assuming 24/7 hour active with 22k plunders a day

[keen rapids]

Where did you get 45.45 from?

What is that maths meant to mean o_o

[sacred verge]

that did not match up for me

[teal lynx]

100k / 22k. Times 10. Divided by 7

[keen rapids]

Why 100 and why 22 o_o

[tacit tulip]

when I did my plundering I max booked everything that had multihit to increase the rate of kills

[keen rapids]

WHere did you get 22k plunders a day from O-o

[sacred verge]

its 45 days

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[tacit tulip]

22k a day is the max I got when I did a full 24h

[bright current]

i mean, you could just divide 1M by 22k?

[keen rapids]

Oh ic it's just what you got o-o

So i might not even get 22k a day :/

[bright current]

have faith in your green mans abilities

[keen rapids]

my green man ain't too hot.

[vapid cove]

citrines is real good for plunder kills tbh

[teal lynx]

technically yes - but my brain ain't functioning that way

[tacit tulip]

I found crystal build to be an overall net gain, too

crystal mobs don't spawn plunder mobs but they do give more coins - which is more mobs by proxy

[sacred verge]

i wonder if i can do overnight with mob drops on at citringe

[tacit tulip]

just don't forget the vman buff whatever you do 😄

[sacred verge]

wdym?

[tacit tulip]

vman 5 buffs sbs flag

which is where most of the plunder kills comes from

[sacred verge]

ahh yeah ofc

what do you think, this should be enough for overnight SB?

[tacit tulip]

I was fine with less but was also a lot weaker back then, hard to be sure

[sacred verge]

yeah, SB is like 150 T

[prime cloud]

What sorta oak log rates do people have on their 3d printer?

[old trench]

Does Right Hand of Action count work with divinity?

[tacit tulip]

nop

w1-3 only

[old trench]

Okay, I thought so.

[bold quiver]

all kinds, from 1M to 3B i think

a fresh W5 account can even have around 10-20k rates

[prime cloud]

Cheers, I'm at 196m ATM but trying to see what I need to do to get it up to the billions 😅

[bold quiver]

u got this. Slowly level up your alchemy bubbles, grab the efficiency buffs from cooking, etc

max talents, make sure u have all chips equipped

[prisma void]

Have been trying to active bubo I have literally 4 abilities on my bar but if i leave it running for mor than like 3 hours my game just freezes that normal?

[tacit tulip]

Used to be really common but its been fixed for some time now

[prime cloud]

What chips do you use?

[bold quiver]

i never had that problem on steam/web/mobile

[keen rapids]

New nug :d

[bold quiver]

on mobile it would just crash tho

[bold quiver]

the usual, afk gains, doublers, necklace doubler, trophy doubler,

[prime cloud]

Sound cheers

Just making sure I'm not missing something 😅

[bold quiver]

hhaah yeah u are probably with everything correct. Just need to work on alchemy bubbles for eff, nothing much. And cooking

[potent maple]

sometimes 😦

[prime cloud]

Aye slowly but surely getting there 😅

[prisma void]

hmmm okay

maybe theres a setting that i have on thats doing it

[potent maple]

like i said it happens sometimes

but dunno WHAT causes it

well, lava's code, but ...

[bold quiver]

hmm maybe? game is not that well optimized so even if your pC is good it doesnt mean it wont crash. in fact, having a good pc sometimes can be the crashing factor

For example, my pc is pretty old and average, but i never get desync playing ES

but i get desync playing DK.....

and people with verey good PC sometimes get desync with ES

[potent maple]

my computer isn't too new and i desynch ES all the time

and i'm no endgamer either

i havent let my DKs out of the kitchen since i got the ladle dream lolz

[teal lynx]

Reminder to buy out your Shops!

[obtuse rover]

All my ES gameplay ever since companion pet patch has caused pretty severe desync. None of the other classes noticeably desync for me, though.

[prisma void]

alright for sure that do make sense

[cyan bone]

Same happens to me. And I'm running on a top of the line tablet, and it still crashes

[rough wasp]

I bought it out when we were talking about DR and Equinox

stupid fucking pickles

2 more months

[vapid cove]

damn im like at 65 ish pickles

[keen rapids]

No i've never ran into that issue and my pc is quite high end :/

[paper sail]

Having a companion follower does introduce a tiny bit of lag. If you have any duplicate pets you don't mind recycling, assign that pet as your follower, then recycle it. That's the only way I'm aware of not have a companion following you around any longer.

Other than that, generic advice for reducing Desync is to turn OFF monster hp bars, turn ON blur filter.

Filtering out the base monster drop helps a ton, but well.. That's often part of the reason we're farming said monster 😦

[prisma void]

got it ill try that thank you!

[cyan bone]

This will sound dumb but I never actually thought once about turning down the graphics settings lol. I'll try it too

[potent maple]

my sheepie would be soooo saadddddd if i left him w that effin dog

[keen rapids]

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