lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[golden shell]

No it's going on an empty space

[swift hatch]

mm strange, might be a visual bug, have you tried restarting your game?

[pastel bramble]

ur doing it on a dk

u have the stat active that deceases dmg based on accuracy/def?

[golden shell]

Nope I don't have any prayers on that effect any stats

[pastel bramble]

not prayer. talent.

squire tab.

[golden shell]

Tried with and without it

[swift hatch]

That's a flat lower it shouldn't be doing that anyway

[golden shell]

No prayers no talents

[slender sandal]

rift construct mastery has refinery speed bonus after 250 (first bonus), there's a stamp for it (it gets really expensive though)

[pastel bramble]

did u leave room since putting on the food and re-enter

[golden shell]

Yes and closed game and reopened

[pastel bramble]

ok. problem solved, your game broke

[golden shell]

Haha awesome that is an amazing thing to happen lol

[pastel bramble]

its not even mastery because ur lowest bracket also goes lower lol

[swift hatch]

wonder if it's some weird thing with how many you have on? lol,

try putting a smaller amount on?

[golden shell]

Nope it just gives me less damage than having them all on lol

[pastel bramble]

try a diff class

[golden shell]

So I tried all classes it's only dk that has the opposite effect

[pastel bramble]

its probably something to do with his balance of accuracy/def/dmg then

another of his talents gives dmg based on accuracy overflow i think

so maybe it has something to do with that

this one

[daring ravine]

I think 1879m accuracy is enough for that to procc on genies

[pastel bramble]

yh.. but what else can it be lol

his dk is bugged when using the golden food

so give me a better explanation 😄

[daring ravine]

Dont know either
Try cloudsaving to see if it still stays

[pastel bramble]

he already did that

[daring ravine]

Man

[golden shell]

Okay that does unbug but without that skill I'm the same damage as having the golden foods on with the bug lol

[pastel bramble]

it fixed itself without the refinery skill?

[golden shell]

Yes but less damage

[pastel bramble]

yh so its bugged still lol

cause of the weird interactions dk has lol

put it in #bug-reports-🐛 maybe ull get a reply in a year

[golden shell]

Seems that way, so I'll use the skill over nomwichs lol

[golden shell]

Or we just find a work around like most other things

Thanks for the help @pastel bramble

[pastel bramble]

yw lol workaround is to save ur golden sandwhiches for another char 😄

atleast u have to gather 500k less now if u have 2dks

[magic oyster]

Anyone else have trouble with TD frozone towers just stopping attacks ?

[golden shell]

Yeh that is an upside lol, pain though as I thought golden foods had a much better effect on dk because of other skills

[twin minnow]

Are these armor sets worth it?

[fast grail]

There is a transition stage at some point where the mag hat is BIS for bubo, but eventually troll/magma is better. Otherwise all for slab

[twin minnow]

Ok so let's say I have void armor should I wait to get troll/magma or choose one of these?

[uncut hull]

you can skip em really. better things to be doing at that point

like making lustre armour

[tacit stag]

@twin minnow imo slab only, i have lustre on my top dps only, and im late w5 already

[twin minnow]

What's an imo slab?

[uncut hull]

imo = in my opinion

and slab is a W5 feature that shows how many items you've found in the game

and gives bonuses based on that

so crafting and picking up every craftable item is something to do to increase slab count

[obtuse citrus]

Is there anything out of the obvious that increases the forge speed? (Obvious being archer talent, forge upgrades and barrels)

[swift wharf]

Maybe the cards?

[rugged token]

2 minute afk claims on archer classes

while having the forge progress talent spec'd

that's your best bet for making a ton of bars outside of spamming a lot of 1h candies on SB

[obtuse citrus]

And just aiming for highest kph possible?

[rugged token]

yeah, just rotate 2 minute claims on gmush

the only limiter to your bar gain at some point will be the ore capacity in your forge

[obtuse citrus]

But thats just getting there every now and then to take it while you wait the 2 min timer i guess

Damn its like splicing all over again

[pastel bramble]

tier 6 tree and got a 1x roll sad

[rugged token]

if you have the auto-refill from automation arm in construction you don't need to worry about it, only thing then to worry about is the amount you have in storage but that's very unlikely to completely deplete unless you were spamming 1h candies and just did an hourly click on a bubble

[obtuse citrus]

Nah that wont be an issue

Thank you

[rugged token]

goodluck on your bar grind

[golden shell]

Hey just an update it's the accuracy cap on mobile that takes the damage away, 3000m acc is needed for damage increase

[pastel bramble]

so u have dmg boosted on pc?

[peak bison]

lustre helmet or w3 boss helmet for w5?

[pastel bramble]

i had void

[teal lynx]

Chiz. You normally wanna skip lustre and diabolic armor

[golden shell]

No clue but I added accuracy cards and wis to dk once over 3000m accuracy I got damage increase from the noms under I lose damage

[peak bison]

I currently have lustre But ı can make chiz helmet if I want

[pastel bramble]

ah well i guess u gotta boost ur accuracy from alchemy/stamps then

so that u can stay above the cap 😄

[teal lynx]

Lustre is still fine. Just don't upgrade to Diabolic and go straight for troll armor. Diabolic builds into nothing, has a big cost for early W5 people that could be invested in other stuff and armor shouldn't be the thing holding you back anyways

[golden shell]

Yeh that's exactly it pain but easy enough.

[slender sandal]

the only diabolic you want are weapons since they feed into magma, whereas armor is fed from troll

[halcyon rampart]

Guys how do i increase my dps on my elemental mage, he has max armour and is doing 560mil damage max(without crit) with over 120% crit chance, i dont know how to up his dps so he can kill chaotic kattlekruk in 30seconds

max weapon also

[dapper kraken]

i finally gotten goharu, so i should park all my characters in lab to instead of divinity now right ?

so i can get both lab exp and divinity gains at the same time right

[viral snow]

Alchemy
Stamps

[halcyon rampart]

any suggestions for specific stamps or alchemy bubbles

[slender sandal]

there's a bunch of different damage stamps you can target, getting base wis helps

the very last purple alch bubble is pretty good for some damage too since it scales your wis

if your sailing isn't very developed there are some strong artifacts towards the very end for damage

[halcyon rampart]

icic

whats a good speed to get per boat for sailing

[slender sandal]

and for that challenge in particular (and some harder rift stuff later) make sure lightning is max leveled

as much as possible

the last island requires a ton

[halcyon rampart]

cus i stopped at like 200k per boat but its kinda long still

[slender sandal]

yeah that's not even close to enough

you need millions

[halcyon rampart]

guess im investing in sailing for the next few weeks

[slender sandal]

as long as you can 2hr an island it's good enough for that island, but the later ones are big

there are a lot of sailing speed increases out there though, cooking, statues, some of the gods, etc

[halcyon rampart]

when u mean lightning is max leveled do u mean the lightning boat specifcally

[slender sandal]

the lightning talent for ES

[halcyon rampart]

oh

yea

its maxed

[slender sandal]

it's a huge damage ability and it'll let you chunk the boss hard

[sacred dove]

i have 100m extra kills on my vman, does it get reset when i do protal runs? for example deathnote kills will be reduced by 100m?

[slender sandal]

yaeh he only keeps 2m

[sacred dove]

damn :/ i got him for quite a number of 100m for 1billion kills. so the moment i use portal i will be essentially in deficit of 100m kills?

[slender sandal]

yep, i lost some skulls in w5 from it lol

best to use him sparingly for kills and just skill forever other than getting CCD going

[sacred dove]

ah man alrights thank you haha

[raven fog]

Guys i have 76 bill dmg but i am still struggling with kruk on my cman

Every time I can’t catch up to the moles

Vman

[rugged token]

speed potions, auto off, R hotkey to use regular punches, just keep running back and forth and clearing out the moles and using void radius and then hitting boss for a bit after using void radius then back to clearing moles out and repeat until you kill him

[lyric sequoia]

Or just get 1T damage first, ezpz

[raven fog]

Yap

Thats the plan

[rugged token]

i did it on 23b, took about 45 minutes

[raven fog]

Mmm i tried it but some how i fail i wilö try again

[slender sandal]

there's a video in pins if you want to see it in action

[lyric sequoia]

no lmao

[fair karma]

Can you elaborate a bit on this? How can you lose deathnote kills with the vman? How does it happen? Thanks!

[rugged token]

All of Vmans deathnote kills gets reset to 2m every time he does a void trial rerun (speedrun) so if you're using him to assist your eclipse skull farm for deathnote/rift bonus you're effectively wasting your own time by doing it with Vman. He's better off just permanently skilling and doing crystal countdown kills for when you want to push a skilling level.

[fair karma]

.—. Good to know in advance. Still far from eclipse skull farming but good to know! Thanks a lot!

[magic sphinx]

hey everyone, if you have doot is there a point in linking with a god? does it give you any extra bonus?

[tacit tulip]

purrmep still needs a link for the minor bonus

personally I'd also consider linking to bear - ie doesn't use companions when sharing your public profile link so when you share it, it'd be broken

[magic sphinx]

ahh okay

[violet star]

Wait. wat!!!

Is that true ?

[shy flame]

Is there a reason to have atomic collider on? seems like every resource gain after 1050m contributes to atoms anyway

[slender sandal]

if for some reason you want more atoms you can adjust the threshold lower but most people recommend that you leave the value at 1050m and then keep it off forever

so you have multiple safeties to not lose hard to stack items (mainly for vials/etc)

[shy flame]

Alright, turned it off the other day and noticed atoms were forming anyway so wasn't sure if there was any added benefit beyond rushing atoms

[lyric sequoia]

on/off only matters if you have it set lower than max stack

Max stacks always get converted no matter what

[shy flame]

Is having multiple of the same type of shiny pet in the fenceyard beneficial at all or is it the same rate of growth no matter how many

[slender sandal]

it's a day per pet in the fenceyard so yeah you can hard stack one

[shy flame]

Sweet, didn't realize before, thanks y'all

[raven fog]

I doubled my dmg by presets and i got him time to sample woth the new scarf

[tacit tulip]

it's specifically better to have it switched off

earlier this year I went on holiday and logged into the game on my laptop.

Atom threshold is saved to the device, like cards/talents. When I logged in, it set to 15m

Because the collider was switched on, it ate all my resources saved

[rose fulcrum]

Should I use magma barrel for forging iron bar for 1b vial? I'm still collecting magma barrel for green stack too.

[thin rose]

If it was set at 15m you wouldn't be able to

A. Save materials for vials
B. Have materials to click bubbles over 15mil
C. Have a long lasting running refinery

[shy flame]

I mean it's off cause free atoms from 1050+ resources anyway

[sick sentinel]

You dont need oils for smelting. The best way to do the bar vials is through candying on sb or 2 min afk claims on archers with smeltin erryday talent specced

Doing this method will smelt the whole stack of ore in that afk time making the oils unnecessary. U can only smelt your ore capacity in forge per afk session so that caps out very fast

[tacit tulip]

hehe nice

[mortal stratus]

Hey

[sacred verge]

:/

[mortal stratus]

Can I use pickaxe statues for doi. Monolith quest

[bright vine]

Oils give you 40% more bars, but not sure you want to use them for copper or iron bars

[tacit tulip]

for the 100k quest, yes. That's actually a suggested method

[mortal stratus]

So I have tip for whom who have not gain so much like you people

So how I can post it in tips and tricks channel

[sick sentinel]

Hmm u are right there, forgot they werent just speed boosts

[mortal stratus]

Hey have you

Your any character

Of class except beginner had wear the beginners trophy

That you get when you become a journeyman

[thin rose]

What

[mortal stratus]

I have one character

That is of mage class but he is wearing the journeyman trophy

[thin rose]

If you put the trophy on before you chose it's class then it will stay on until you take it off

[mortal stratus]

Have you any character like that

[sacred verge]

it wont matter anyway

[thin rose]

No, because it's not a useful trophy to have on anyone except vman

[sacred verge]

there is no reason for w5 guys to use a jman trophy

[thin rose]

[mortal stratus]

Oh

I thought it was cool

But

It is not

[thin rose]

It's cool I guess, just useless

[mortal stratus]

So how I can give it to lava

[thin rose]

Give it to lava?

[mortal stratus]

Because I can't find a pic of it in cool stuff

Yah

[thin rose]

Lava wouldn't put something like that in cool stuff

[mortal stratus]

I want it in cool stuff

Why not

[thin rose]

Not cool enough

[mortal stratus]

Hmm

Really

But I wanna give a try

[viral snow]

its neither unique
Nor are you the first to get it tho

so why would it be in cool stuff

[mortal stratus]

I just wanna give a try

So what is wrong in it

[viral snow]

Might as well try to race a f1 car with your bike

[torpid wyvern]

cant you upgrade the weapon more that this

[thin rose]

2148 dungeon passes

[thin rose]

Why aren't you using your flurbos

[left fossil]

Probably because there ain't usefull things to buy anymore

[thin rose]

Keychains

[torpid wyvern]

dont know want to greenstack maybe

[low pecan]

anyone having trouble connecting to the server?

[crude harness]

i cant seem to get the emerald artifact to convert these to gold 😭

rng hates me

[tidal sky]

is this the last alchemical plant? just got the 300M bit upgrade and got it

[signal osprey]

No thats only T6. It goes to T7

[tidal sky]

oh really? so that upgrade gives us 2 new tiers? since i never had a t6 before

[signal osprey]

No there is an earlier upgrade that gives an extra tier and you just havent gotten them yet

[pine yacht]

no... you definitly bought t6 upgrade before

[tidal sky]

damn, this whole time i was missing a multi from all plants...

[tough coral]

Opinions, who should get my first two emperor rings? I'm torn between vman and BB for pushing super chows

[weak vector]

Can always check on the mutation screen

[bright vine]

https://tomgrey.idleonefficiency.com/

Any tips on alchemy, what to atom after 1,100 Llaaarrryyy? And if any bubbles that should be hourly clicked that look kinda small?

[paper sail]

http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[left spoke]

I'm bored of the "Pre crime box" so I do his quests, but how do you do that one ? I have 4 pieces of gold, isn't that enough ?

[bright vine]

Thanks scoli, checked it before asking too:)

[weak vector]

idk if this is already at 300% for mages due to boosts but this should be capped

[weak vector]

golden tool?

[left spoke]

What's the "Best alchemy bubble tier met" means ? I'm at 4/21 it seems kinda low but idk why

[left spoke]

I'll try that, thanks

[bright vine]

Ye I’m at 300% already

[paper sail]

I didn't expect people to focus on the tiers so much lol. They're just my madeup milestones for progression. In this case, it means you met 60% on the orange, green, and purple sampling bubbles, plus unlocked 80+ total bubbles, but you failed at least one category in the next rank/tier.

[surreal rivet]

For unlocking the new plant types in gaming is there a recommended % chance to try for for each unlock? It feels like it's not a linear relationship between DNA tokens and % chance after points

[burnt sail]

Nope just spam it

Claim a plant, try to unlock, claim another plant, try to unlock

or just attempt after every claim all

[left spoke]

Ok thanks, I don't focus on tier but I was wondering why it was so low. But I'm focusing on my purple bubbles to get higher sample and it helps a lot

Is this quest bugged ? I kill all sandcastles without hurting sheepies but it doesn't work

[paper sail]

If you have a Sheepie companion following you, go get a different companion, forfeit quest, try again

[left spoke]

Oh yeah, just found that on discord (with search)

Ty

[tacit tulip]

people (including me) are probably seeing the tiers as a general ballpark for progression

When you're on 27/36 for stamps but 6/21 for alchemy it looks really like you're really far behind on alchemy when that's actually not the case - the tiers are just heavily weighted towards late/endgame

was why I was suggesting some easier tiers for alchemy - for the lower players to have something to aim for

[paper sail]

The numbers just don't work that way imo.. If I make more tiers, I just get more complaints about not showing enough information at once.
10% would be 44 total levels
20% is 94 total bubble levels
Total difference of 50 bubble levels

Where the difference in 98-99 is 13k bubble levels lol.

[slender sandal]

i think you'll find a huge majority of the bot use/suggestions will be towards earlier game players. people way deep in your tiers generally know what they need imo

[ancient beacon]

Any way to speedrun w5 to get the boss key

Im on skulls rn

[slender sandal]

if w5 has slowed down a lot for you take a bit and get your stamps/alch up more before pushing

[paper sail]

I think what I can try after finishing my current module will be grouping each module's Ranks/Tiers into a rough world, then highlighting the "sore thumb" of stamps still being w2 progression while alchemy is w4 progression. Maybe that'll help get a better picture on the easiest, lowest hanging fruit

[tacit tulip]

Yeah I don't think there's anything neccessarily wrong with the way you've done it. But people are gonna read it that way, and you'll be doomed for all eternity with people asking "I have a 1B sample how am I only on 5/21?" 😄

[night holly]

@zealous thicket did you get help? someone DM'd me asking to take a look since they didn't have time too.

[ancient beacon]

Sucks my Best class is BM witch 3,5m min dmg lvl237

So i wonder if i can speed things up

[slender sandal]

yeah you have a ton of low hanging fruit to handle then, bm shouldn't be anywhere near your best damage class

[tacit tulip]

As a fellow BM lover - you'll need to get over that attachment I'm afraid. The other classes are simply better 😦

[ancient beacon]

Hurts it was my class that got me trough all worlds

[orchid ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-meme-gif-16107418

Dang I can finally atoms the 2nd bubble on my purple cauldron on an non-mage :D
Tomorrow Im going

[worthy helm]

Goes to show how lost people are as for what to do next

[tacit tulip]

but yeah, brute forcing world 5 is a mistake. It'll be quicker to work on your account (primarily stamps, alchemy, cooking) and come back later

[paper sail]

That is how most people feel about Blood Berserker. It is probably the most common 1st character and very quickly becomes shit in w3/w4.

[sacred verge]

BM lovers, never heard that one before

[worthy helm]

Exactly what i did

Brute forced w5

[ancient beacon]

Oh yea question about cooking how do i get biger speed like im only at 57k best witch ritchelin

[tacit tulip]

World 1: Warrior is best starting class due to hp/cleave
world2: Your warrior's world 2 class is a berserker
world 4: Blood berserker is the worst class 😦

[ancient beacon]

Bm beast master

Sorry for confusion

[tacit tulip]

yeah scoli meant it's usually blood bers that's the problem

BB and BM are the two bad classes

SB is mid, and the other 3 are good

[worthy helm]

SB is farming gmush kills

[ancient beacon]

I mean elemental sorcer is great but its only at 2m min dmg lvl 180 i think

[night holly]

I love my SB lately. They've been leading the charge in my w5 eclipse

[tacit tulip]

fwiw it's better to use max damage stat over min. Most game calculations use it, so when people talk about damage, that's what they're referring to

[ancient beacon]

Curectly im farming monsters to get vman class w1 is alerdy done

[weak vector]

I have both waters 1 + 2 at draconic, should I turn on viaduct while active bubo farming for more grind time per CC or leave it off

[ancient beacon]

Xd sorry i just always look first at min

[worthy helm]

If you have the 99% convert from equinox i'd leave it off

[paper sail]

Yes, turn it off.

[worthy helm]

For more rate

Unless you want to buy other stuff and not upgrade capacity and rate

[weak vector]

ty

[fallen torrent]

forgetting to put tremur in filter overnight..

Waiting game to see my unfreeze xD

[weak vector]

i did that by mistake with beans... it was a nightmare when I woke up

[fallen torrent]

took 2 minute for my game to Treasure chest remove all item xD

2h45 instead of 10hr 'afk time' oh bruh

desync insane tonight xD

[surreal rivet]

Alright so sailing, should I set a "minimum chest level" with that one artifact or nah, and also for artifact hunting should I just collect everything ASAP every time

[fallen torrent]

all boat to one island, brown chest for every boat, and just loot every 2hour if you have the minimum

every 2hour something with the sailing reduce time i get like 30 chest

if you claim more than 2hour, put the second chest in preferance

and dont use the SB talent

7hr desync... lol

[surreal rivet]

Thanks!

[fluid marlin]

Hey is Onyx statue farming worth it or should I focus on upgrading my equipment on my characters? I should unlock the last god in 5 hours and than wanted to let 5 chars farm pop obols and 5 chars triple six obols for my family and DK. Or would it make more sense to start farming the resources for better equip and unlocking Tab 5 in the smithy with 8 chars, put my berserker in the kitchen and let my DK push to the last area in W5? https://fortsher.idleonefficiency.com

[tacit tulip]

if you're still talking about farming obols for drop rate don't even consider onyx statues

Obols -> Cards (Drop rate, card rate, crystal rate) THEN look into onyx

you have a choco chip which is good, at least 🙂

[fallen torrent]

yeah and most important for onyx, cookie chip in lab

oh he has it

[daring ravine]

Get more crystal chance

[fluid marlin]

Yeah I get around 6k power statues per day with my DK right now

[fluid marlin]

Farm the W4 card for higher crystal chance?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

[fluid marlin]

Okay farming Obosl and cards it is 😁

[tacit tulip]

there's no real harm in unlocking them now if you really want but drop rate and crystal rates is what we'd consider core skills of an account. The more you have of either, the better position you'll be in the future

onyxes truly become powerful once you can reach 100% on snakeskin vial, which you're a ways off yet 🙂

[fluid marlin]

Is it a huge boost? Having Onyx? I mean when I put 20k statues in there for example for defense its just 100 base defense more o.o

[tacit tulip]

it's mroe about what it lets you do in the future

each onyx makes all statues deposited worth 10% more

[orchid ferry]

how do you guys even farm 1000M of mob drops

[tacit tulip]

so if you onyx all 25 statues, you get +250% more statues

[slender sandal]

printer

[tacit tulip]

combined with skinny 0 cal, thats 7 statues per statue

[orchid ferry]

sampling mobs is always so small

[fluid marlin]

Okay makes sense. Thanks 🙂

[orchid ferry]

vs skilling

[lean dawn]

Vmam

[viral snow]

do it with vman

[tacit tulip]

this results in stuff like this 😄

[viral snow]

during speedrun

[tacit tulip]

though the food statue is the most important one

[fluid marlin]

daaaamn

[daring ravine]

Remember staturiffic (the bubble) once you start REALLY focusing on statue levels
Saves you a bunch of m's

[fallen torrent]

i get like 30 atom click on severapurple a day now in term of atom gainable, rest for stable jenius,

and 30 click get me like 0.03-4x

[summer rampart]

Uhhh

[fallen torrent]

getting good

what

[summer rampart]

Does this mean my charactors are uploaded for the bonuses?

[daring ravine]

You didnt link yet
Its just like that when youre linked to anything

[tacit tulip]

if you see unlink it means the character you're currently online with is linked to a god

[fallen torrent]

they are linked, so they act like they are uploaded

just click on unlink to see what god you linked to

[tacit tulip]

oh they're asking about bears effects specifically

[fallen torrent]

you 2 get 2 unlock a week, so make sure you unluck more than 1 guy at a time if you gotta switch stuff around

i answered both possibilites xD

[tacit tulip]

when you use bear without being in lab you get the benefits of lab yeah. It'll show them with a blue power symbol

[summer rampart]

Haha, thx guys

[fallen torrent]

333M/1000M fluff ball. on the way for another vial

[summer rampart]

My question was why the bonus wasn't working and then the following, so you got me for both

[fallen torrent]

i never knew there was a difference on that part sakori oh well haha

[summer rampart]

We can only equip 1 at a time right? Unless we have doot?

[tacit tulip]

elemental sorcerer can do 2

[fallen torrent]

causticolumn is the second to last artifact i need. if the game could please give it

[tacit tulip]

but 1 per character, yeah

[summer rampart]

Hmm

[tacit tulip]

so if you were to level that talent to 10, you'd also get the benefits of snake on your ES

[fluid marlin]

can not find it o.o

You mean the snake one?

[daring ravine]

Upgrade to 10 if you want shene
Wont work if its 0

[fallen torrent]

the yellow bubble of the statueman

[daring ravine]

Its the third yellow buttle

[summer rampart]

Ok, that makes sense, ty

[fallen torrent]

its not called staturific tho

[fluid marlin]

ah statue exp

[daring ravine]

Its so forgettable until this point i cant blame you

[daring ravine]

I forgot its name

[empty hinge]

This is literally paradise

[fallen torrent]

startue man

[daring ravine]

Nobi?

[empty hinge]

Is there a way to make it even better?

[fallen torrent]

you should aim maybe for balance of pain, instead of that prayer. you reduce your dmg

[empty hinge]

Kinda

[fallen torrent]

but balance of pain you need good defense to use i soo maybe not

[daring ravine]

They dont seem to be multikilling eitherway

[fallen torrent]

yeah just realized that

[daring ravine]

You cant half link to nobi
Its either yes or no

[fallen torrent]

use the unending energy one, +exp but 10-hr limit

[empty hinge]

Yes

[fallen torrent]

check it every 10hr max if you have the possibilities and you,ll see a good increase

[empty hinge]

Oh right ok

[true obsidian]

i know it should be lv up both but which one i should focus first for now and until when i should lv up the other one?

[daring ravine]

In that case thats lower than normal
Usually people have near that kph without nobi
Get more kpk (talent), multikill (generally wont be able to multikill later mobs unless you put off pushing w5 for a while) and more afk gains to increase it

[weak vector]

wait are all of your characters on cogs?

[daring ravine]

Only DKs on board, yes

[empty hinge]

My guy levels 4times an hour

Thx

[true obsidian]

only DK on board

[weak vector]

whoops missed that

[signal osprey]

Bob is a lot more important between those two

[fallen torrent]

TheContract has spoken

[weak vector]

add the first prayer (+XP, + Mob HP) if it doesn't put you below 100% survivability

[empty hinge]

I dont think its great

My dmg is damn low

[fallen torrent]

bigbrain remove half of your xp

[weak vector]

nvm then... I didn't realize it would affect kph

[empty hinge]

Its because of my 6mil max dmg

[weak vector]

Deathnote prayer definitely doesn’t help your damage too

[empty hinge]

I know ,but it lets me reach the next ground faster

Because the exp gain is exponentially higher in each following map

Here is a comparison

So in the end its a win

[fallen torrent]

60/75 lucky lad

[empty hinge]

?

[true obsidian]

what method you use? mining dreadlo or just infinite active?

[empty hinge]

How many kills does it require? The eclipse thingy

[weak vector]

1B

[empty hinge]

Wow

[true obsidian]

at wurm with full prayer (max lv) :))

[daring ravine]

Both rucksack and rushogen

[empty hinge]

Why is the exp low ?

You got literally half a mil kph

[true obsidian]

me?

[daring ravine]

Most of those is from bloat (mk, kpk) which don't give extra exp

[empty hinge]

I see

[weak vector]

most of your xp comes from crystals

[prisma drift]

Probably also 100% afk gains

Rucksack messing up the gains

[twilit oyster]

finally after geting to w5 and 4~5 months of progress its almost done

[daring ravine]

He is realistically killing like 3k wurms a hour (that actually give exp)

[viral snow]

could get quite some more kph if youre dropping hp increasing prayer

[summer rampart]

Ok... ima need help again

How do I link to both again?

[true obsidian]

i don't need kph, i'm active it

[viral snow]

ES Talent 11

[twilit oyster]

bottom left skill

[viral snow]

with ES ?

[true obsidian]

tbh, no one afk at wurm....

[summer rampart]

Ik, but for some reason I am not linked

[true obsidian]

bubo

[daring ravine]

How about those grinding to 500?

[twilit oyster]

you dont have whatever god is at level 100 of the perk

[upper saffron]

is there a place to find out when next dungeon happy hour is without teleporting to a dungeon area?

[daring ravine]

He does
Its shene

[true obsidian]

i got 101% afk gain with max lv rucksack...

[summer rampart]

So I have to match the God level with the perk?

[daring ravine]

I meant as in every other char for equinox

[desert night]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[true obsidian]

it would be fast if w6 is out, or i can do now but it would took me a long time, so just doing deathnote now to prepare for w6

[daring ravine]

Fair enough
Realistically lava would probably force you to get to a much higher level than 500 in w6 though

[upper saffron]

ty

[true obsidian]

when we can use candy at w5, lv 500 should be easy

[weak vector]

ehh not really

[fallen torrent]

i wouldnt waste candy for lv 500

as W6 will have much higher xp gain

[signal osprey]

Waiting for W6 is definitely the right call. 500 all characters will be very easy then and its also not even a super good reward so not much sense grinding it now

[hidden sphinx]

Just farm xp bubble

[weak vector]

multikill doesn't really affect xp iirc, only base kills. Most of us are only getting billions of xp but we need trillions per level to reach 500

[signal osprey]

Who said anything about multikill lol

[true obsidian]

yeah...i really need more, too low right now

[signal osprey]

W6 mobs will give way more base exp per kill regardless of multikill

[hidden sphinx]

Bubo and DKs should be level 500 pretty much

[true obsidian]

i think 15000 should be good enough

[hidden sphinx]

If you’re activity them enough

[hidden sphinx]

I’m aiming for like 60 xp gain at least

[soft chasm]

I reliased instablabs drop almost nowhere, actived on rats on ES for like, an hour, went from half done to done >.<' Could of had it soooo much sooner

[weak vector]

what are you at now?

[true obsidian]

don't know if i should use candy for deathnote, it kinda slow right now

[hidden sphinx]

45

So it’ll take a bit

Farming level 5 cards on es rn

[fallen torrent]

i am only missing wood mushroom in W1

but i dont wanna spend that much candy there yet

also should farm those card too

[upper saffron]

ppl that are lvl 500+ whats your base dmg atm? i'm pre 500 and i'm at 7300m-15000m

[hidden sphinx]

Why would you not go in order of mobs in the world

[night holly]

So, are these values on IT correct? I know this is new so I just want to be sure,*** I can drop royal sampler now on my family?***

[fallen torrent]

i reach 14T dmg

[upper saffron]

is the T a M with a squiggly line above?

[fallen torrent]

sample size isnt the same thing, dont remove the prayer

[true obsidian]

because i go in order when farming 100M kill for all mobs first, then i too lazy so just doing backward

[weak vector]

That's a crown

[night holly]

This is looking at rate, not sample size.

[fallen torrent]

im not on my SB rightnow but T has a line on top of it i think? but

[upper saffron]

i'm blind af XD

[weak vector]

but no- there's a new tier for T

[fallen torrent]

14T dmg is written 14.31T in purple writing

[true obsidian]

depend on which class you ask?

[hidden sphinx]

Fairs, just think it woulda been faster to go from lowest mob hp to highest in the world (with some changes depending on mob density)

[daring ravine]

Is

[upper saffron]

just in general tbh i'm just now hitting 10k stat on my ES and i haven't gotten the krak weapon and the dungeon rings for them

[daring ravine]

Sigil

[weak vector]

holy shit this is me realizing i can level the 4th cauldron

[true obsidian]

well, this is my bubo

[sick sentinel]

did you already max book skilling talents?

[daring ravine]

Oh eait i cant read
My bad

[true obsidian]

and my SB

[upper saffron]

oh man i'm super low compared D:

[fallen torrent]

i feel like magma armor and pants wouldve gotten you more stat nah?

[hidden sphinx]

Imagine not having 10k of each stat on every char smh

[weak vector]

eldritch artifacts and 1M SB/ES kills if you haven't yet

[viral snow]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[fallen torrent]

i dont have 10k of each stat yet me neither

[true obsidian]

yes, but boss amors stilll give you more dmg, also good for deathnote

[fallen torrent]

6.5/6.7k but 22k of main stat

[night holly]

Ok so I just confirmed. 90% rate without royal sampler 🙂 Yay!

I REALLY AM NOT READY TO RESAMPLE, but I'm gonna have to When w6 drops anyways so may as well do this today.

[pearl pebble]

hello, i was wondering if the elephant god is useful

[sick sentinel]

omni is great for a lot of time gated progress

[proud pumice]

the best imo

[true obsidian]

i could if i do hour click, but too lazy

[weak vector]

I need to gstack w1 leaves...

[signal osprey]

This is gonna take a little bit 🥹

[pearl pebble]

hmm should i move some chars from lab to divinity, unlink goharut and link omni then?

[pine yacht]

If I have build obols on one char and am active on another, do they still contribute to the build speed ?

[hidden sphinx]

Get stamps to 5000 as well

[pearl pebble]

damn lol

[true obsidian]

which stamps?

[hidden sphinx]

Just the combined stat stamps

[sick sentinel]

up to you rly, could keep them in lab with omni too. kind of just what you want to do

[true obsidian]

i know i forgot something....

[hidden sphinx]

I always forget stamp upgrades

[hidden sphinx]

Pretty sure build obols are active only

[pearl pebble]

sounds like it depends on the next 3 gods. are they useful?

oh wait its just purrmep and flutterbis. 2 gods

[hollow osprey]

what do i need for getting a high score on pirate flag?

[bright vine]

There is a trick to it, but yes they do

[sick sentinel]

purrmep is good

[pearl pebble]

low lvl pirate flag skill

[hollow osprey]

ty

[true obsidian]

i really hate when we click tele button on daily event, it change our sever too, can i do anything about it?

[sick sentinel]

pirate flag doesnt impact score, mainly a good map like citringes and higher level attack talents like the gatling gun

crystal spawn chacne helps too

[upper saffron]

think it just wants you to suffer >.>

[hidden sphinx]

Nope, cause it’s a server specific event

[fallen torrent]

i love flagging oranges

[night holly]

I think they are implying because of plunderous health. Early SB high flag talent screws you because you can't kill the plunderous effectively if too high invested

[true obsidian]

i think it not? even i change sever, mini boss still there

[hidden sphinx]

Oh it disappears for me

[upper saffron]

is there a trick to the achievment for 777s for gaming and sailing?

[true obsidian]

how much is cap?

[sick sentinel]

thats what i meant, i think i misunderstood the previous statements as them recommending higher level flag... my mistake lol

[hidden sphinx]

For sailing it’s just waiting

[upper saffron]

ah ok then i've just been having shit luck D:

[true obsidian]

oh

[hollow osprey]

auto fine for the 75 flag score rift challenge?

[hidden sphinx]

Same

[hidden sphinx]

How

[true obsidian]

rucksack?

[hidden sphinx]

Ohhhh

[true obsidian]

you can always equip rucksack, get the food, then unequip it

[hollow osprey]

anyone can help?

[signal osprey]

As long as you have enough damage to kill plunderous mobs yeah you can auto it

[true obsidian]

i got a bit lucky, but as you can see, i got shit luck at something else...which more important

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[true obsidian]

everyone stamps look nice and fancy...mine just look like trash

[signal osprey]

This was actually surprisingly fast to craft which is very nice after crafting all the normal peanuts which were not fast at all

[bright vine]

Gotta pump up those Crystal chance numbers

[hidden sphinx]

Time to do it 9 more times

[signal osprey]

I'm gonna need some more hotdogs

[hidden sphinx]

They be the killer

[upper saffron]

the poing? or am i missing something >.>

[bold quiver]

10M stacks of golden peanuts, sick efficiencyt

[hidden sphinx]

Probs 1m at least for most people

[bold quiver]

the current bag already allow u to carry over 1M food, with a normal level mason jars

[hidden sphinx]

With a lot of additional upgrades

That’s why I said most

[bold quiver]

thats normal upgrade tho

[hidden sphinx]

It’s not

[bold quiver]

my jason mars is barely leveled

compared to endgamers haha

[hidden sphinx]

You can’t reach 1m food without rucksack

[bold quiver]

mine is normal

endgamers should be around 1,5M

[upper saffron]

i'm at 307k

[hidden sphinx]

I’m at like 297k

[upper saffron]

i forget about all the alch and stamp shit i just like to afk and press buttons XD

[hidden sphinx]

Is rucksack something you just equip on everyone even tho it’s such a high afk loss?

[bold quiver]

no, there is no need for extra capacity on afk characters, only active (if u are doing something with ES

[upper saffron]

what is this rucksack?

[bold quiver]

my normal cap without rucksack

[signal osprey]

124 mason jar with maxed rucksack

[bold quiver]

ha i got 1,5M right

[signal osprey]

I need a lot more though

[sick sentinel]

carry cap prayer from acorn td

[signal osprey]

Gotta have at least 10m cap so I can equip my full gold peanut gstack when I finish it

[bold quiver]

i dont even know why mine is 1,1 when my jars is 120

oh, u are using the prayers for carry cap

[upper saffron]

oh yeah that thing got it ty

[bold quiver]

i forgot they existed ever since multitool stamp leveling

[fallen torrent]

true i could upgrade mason jars for capacity

i forgot about that one

[bold quiver]

gotta farm those glass shards

[signal osprey]

Star signs are a decent boost. This is what it goes down to when I remove the star signs

[bleak iris]

So in the Alchemy skill, there are a number of bubbles that are worth putting off for later, or outright ignoring. Is it similar for gaming? Prioritize this or that upgrade, but don't worry about others until later? That kind of just been doing my own thing with gaming for a bit, but I thought I would touch base with you fine folks to see if there's a better way to optimize

[fallen torrent]

wizard tower all around l 60 😄

except void i need to up

[upper saffron]

so can't you just toss on rucksack and then toss your food on and then take rucksack off?

[bold quiver]

yes, many bubbles can be ignored

If u watch griffybit video on alchemy bubbles u will find those out

he puts up a very accurate tier list on bubbles for all cauldrons

[bleak iris]

I think my analogy was not as good as I thought. I mentioned the Alchemy thing just to liken it to gaming. I'm all set with alchemy, I'm basically trying to ask how to better progress with gaming

[bold quiver]

oh, gaming is basicaly getting the bits upgrades from sailing/nugget/snail/cooking

there isnt much going on there, pretty dumb area

[muted slate]

Think people upgrade everything pretty evenly there

[bleak iris]

Is that 999 thing a real unlock goal, or is that just a placeholder?

[bold quiver]

u can upgrade everything evenly, there isnt much to it

[bleak iris]

I do appreciate the info. It seems to be much more straightforward but I am glad to have that affirmed from you all

[bold quiver]

placeholder

[bleak iris]

Oh wow that is insane

[bleak iris]

Okay! Thank you.

[bold quiver]

yeah now with equinox upgrade u just no life clicking nuggets and that sit

get a big nugget, get the achievements to boost superbits and thats it, u can finish gaming

[bleak iris]

I am excited to be able to make some progress with Equinox. I'm working on hitting the green stack requirement

[bold quiver]

u got this!

i dont rly like gaming cuz its a lazy area

[bleak iris]

I appreciate you and your assistance, as always. I've got to go get back to work for a little bit. I'll touch base with you all in a couple hours :-)

[sacred monolith]

Whats your greenstack count?

[bleak iris]

7

[bold quiver]

lava put 0 effort into creating an area enjoyable to play

Cant move plants, cant select, cant lock, they have basicaly the same design, no vases or anything, 80% of the upgrades are horrible

[bleak iris]

Yeah the whole thing just seems like a vehicle for him to make the joke that the skill is called gaming because you're playing a game when you do it.

I've been in the world 5 for 5 weeks now, and I still haven't unlocked the third to last plant.

[bold quiver]

pong is actualy the highlight of gaming kkkkk

[bleak iris]

Oh I didn't know that! I'm not that far yet. The only thing I knew of ahead of me was that log thingy

[bold quiver]

big nugget!

[soft chasm]

Don't think I'll see pong till I get lucky on a couple more artifacts >.<

[upper saffron]

i'm stuck at a 7.8k nugget D:

[soft chasm]

And I don't wanna even GO for the gaming artifacts.... 'cus I'm focused on Fury

Unless like I go from a 2.8k to a 20+K nuggets all of a sudden 🤭

(dunno how meny trys at the 2nd last plant type i've failed at either, but it would probably make me wanna cry)

[upper saffron]

is the shovel for the nugget take longer after the first nugget? like getting 1 nugget vs 2 nuggets? kinda like how spice works where it takes longer to get the next one?

[slender sandal]

yes

[upper saffron]

oh ok well i've been doing the nuggets all wrong then D:

whats the timer for the first nugget like?

[lyric sequoia]

Imagine not greenstacking gold peanuts

[slender sandal]

1hr

[upper saffron]

ah ok

[slender sandal]

and then next one is a bit under 5 hours

[upper saffron]

oh god ok is it like :00 or is it 1hr from when i clicked it?

[lyric sequoia]

from click

[upper saffron]

man ok well guess i know what i'm doing then whenever i'm near the game

[brisk breach]

where do people check to see how many nuuggets theyve dug since the last big one

[spare lintel]

idleon toolbox

[brisk breach]

thx

[bold quiver]

i dont

[daring ravine]

Ignorance is bliss

[brisk breach]

i need to know

[bold quiver]

just click randomly, thats not important

no point trying to min max something that isnt worth and totaly rng

[muted slate]

i think toolbox tells you

[brisk breach]

dang it only shows since i got the equinox upgrade

well i guess ill never know but maybe it is for the better

[bold quiver]

click when u have a golden dot on top of shovel

[upper saffron]

in the cooking area on the toolbox site there is a thing called Amethyst Rhinestone where is that from?

oh yeah that thing ok

[cold goblet]

Hey, Hey! Question for hard late gamers, what type of captain are best when you unlocked all islands and all of islands can be reached on lowest time?

[bold quiver]

loot

or do it like me, forget that sailing exist

[cold goblet]

You mean loot rarity?

[upper saffron]

does toolbox sync in real time?

[cold goblet]

Sailing is still needed for alchemy etc

[tacit tulip]

periodic updates or any time you swap characters

[upper saffron]

ah ok cool

[spare lintel]

not after everything is atomable

[bold quiver]

loot

[weak vector]

loot value != loot rarity

[bold quiver]

@cold goblet oh since u said that u could reach all islands with lowest time i assumed that all your captains could reach the last island with lowest time without speed captains, sorry

usualy when u can achieve that u are already done with sailing

[cold goblet]

Ohhh, forgot about it

[tacit tulip]

yeah but there's better things to atom, usually. Get your sailing high enough, and you can start clicking those bubbles with just the proceeds from sailing

[bold quiver]

sailing is dead area after u get all eldrich artifacts, rip

[spare lintel]

definitely agree there are better things to atom, W5 bubbles scale incredibly fast, I wouldn't even waste effort on using sailing treasure to upgrade bubbles

[cold goblet]

Nah, not there yet, but I was thinking about starting to change some captains for close islands

[bold quiver]

oh, there is no reason to even change captains

waste of time

[cold goblet]

Even from speed to loot?

[bold quiver]

yes, no point

u get more than enough loot already with any type of captain, its pointless to change

The thing is, IF by any chance lava releases another update on sailing with even further islands, u will be fucked if u changed your captains from speed to loot

xD

There is no use to extra extra loot that u get from loot value captains, so i'd rather keep my speed captains in case lava updates sailing with further islands

[worthy helm]

Just dmg from gold bars really

[bold quiver]

is that a real thing?

[worthy helm]

Sure is

It's an artifact thing

[old ginkgo]

there's an artifact

[bold quiver]

i got my bars from 100B to 9000B and my dmg didnt change

noticeable change

[worthy helm]

Total dmg is total dmg

[tacit tulip]

just bring back the gold for gold trade and see how strong mask really gets

[bold quiver]

ehehehehe

diminishing returns cant beat the power of infinite scaling!

huge

[paper sail]

I highly disagree. Loot captains help upgrade your ships faster, granting both loot and speed. Captains may change, but Boat upgrades are permanent.

[blazing zodiac]

how do I go about clearing this?

[tacit tulip]

slowly

or very quickly, your choice 😛

[bold quiver]

good luck when u need over 300M speed to reach the new islands with loot value captains

[granite grove]

harvest all and free yourself from 18hr chem chains

[paper sail]

You're kidding, right?

[bold quiver]

i'd rather not even play sailing and still have that speed cuz i use speed captains

[tacit tulip]

that genuinely won't be a problem as we've already upgraed our boats- you need a very basic speed captain to hit 300m instantly

[bold quiver]

and how many boats do u have with that strat that already have 300M speed

[tacit tulip]

none, but I'm very behind on sailing

Currently getting everything to 100m tho

[bold quiver]

exactly

no way im sacrificing my boat speeds just to get extra loot

im prepared for new islands

[tacit tulip]

hopefully those new islands don't need the extra loot then 😄

[bold quiver]

ofc not

we already get a insane amount of loot from normal captains

[tacit tulip]

yeah you're right - lava never reduces the rate of stuff when adding new versions of it

[signal osprey]

Youre acting like its hard to get that extra speed if you need it later though

[spare lintel]

those of you already at the point where you can argue these semantics are never truly burdened by new things he adds anyawys

[signal osprey]

Literally any trash tier captain is good enough to get 300m speed

[tacit tulip]

exactly, it's not hard for me to get that speed

[swift hatch]

even if he did add anther island that takes 300m he'd also probably add another way or two to get more ship speed anyway

[paper sail]

2 months ago, I already broke 800m 2hr speed..

[bold quiver]

bet it wasnt on all boats

[spare lintel]

without speed captains?

[bold quiver]

the first boats doesnt even count

[violet star]

i know this was a couple hours ago. but besides purr. do i need to link anything specific when having doot?

[swift hatch]

leveling SB takes so long T_T

[tacit tulip]

Just purr, arctis if you want ie to work properly sometimes

[paper sail]

If you use IE, link Bear. IE doesn't calculate lab quite right without it.

[tacit tulip]

ie does work with doot - but sharing a public link doesn't include pets

so it'll assume your lab is disconnected, and a lot of its estimations will be wrong

[bold quiver]

yes, he is slow to leveel up unfortunately

[tacit tulip]

bubble cost, stamp cost, cooking speed, etc

[ruby yarrow]

I just want to get another blankie, but oh no I should get the obol and a silver pen before that

[swift hatch]

Yeah I just thought getting him to 425 would be a like, 5 hour endeavor but I guess I was very wrong lol

well, it's going to be like, a 8 hour endeavor but yeeah

[tacit tulip]

depends on your GT bubble 😄

[bold quiver]

yeah it sucks

[swift hatch]

I only recently put any levels into it so it's only okay xD

[bold quiver]

thats a rly rly high GT to lvl up to 425

i did it when my GT was only lvl 500-800

not that high compared to endgamers

[swift hatch]

I just hated active bubo, even tho is was nuts so I missed out on a lot of alchemy for a while haha

[tacit tulip]

it can be done earlier but I wouldn't bother before 20k myself

[paper sail]

Subjective. Mine was 10k before I pushed to 425/450 on anything other than Bubo

[bold quiver]

i only leveled it for a week or so

[paper sail]

Press X to doubt..

[tacit tulip]

yeah that's definitely not a weeks worth of GT lol

[bold quiver]

o.o why not

[paper sail]

1k a day is feasible

5k is not

[bold quiver]

it was already at 8k

[paper sail]

That's still 25k over 7 days? No way. Bullshit.

[tacit tulip]

I started doing my GT when equinox came out, so a bit over a month ago.

nonstop GT with 50+ water generation, and about 400k CC

Mines under 15k lol

[bold quiver]

u did realize i said " A WEEK OR SO " right? not " took me 1 week

u can pull chat from my old messages, it migh have took me 10 days, 2 weeks top

wasnt longer than that

[bold quiver]

need to decant more

yeah it was around that, almost 2 weeks of leveling

cuz it only slowed down at 25k 28k

[tacit tulip]

wish I had a younger brother to click my bubbles

[bold quiver]

i have 2 dogs!

[weak vector]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message
This was ~30 days ago

[signal osprey]

What kind of liquid rate do you have for that 30k GT?

[bold quiver]

100 i think

its between 100 and 130 i think

[signal osprey]

You could show us a pic of your GT. Lets see the decant pics too

[slender sandal]

That's a lot of not beans

[pastel bramble]

34k liquid cap wtf i need to improve my 9k 😂

[bold quiver]

thats a capped liquid

[pastel bramble]

doesnt change fact i need to upgrade my cauldrons

[bold quiver]

check when i got it to 33k to see how long it took

[weak vector]

well that depends... did you just get it today?

[pastel bramble]

already maxed at 99%

[bold quiver]

oh no, it was weeks ago '.'

[pastel bramble]

this is my issue

😂

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkk yeah it takes a while to level that

[loud cedar]

Why not atom it

[pastel bramble]

i can atom it im just focusing on other things first

i guess i should switch focus with new farming needing liquids

[loud cedar]

Probably lol

[tacit tulip]

5k GT in one day - my man was botting for sure 💀

[pastel bramble]

atleast 1000 liquid, go check his teaser pics lol

[bold quiver]

no, i cant play overnight

[tacit tulip]

sorry it was 8k in one day

8k on the 23rd, 16k on the 24th

[placid timber]

makes it even more sus

[bold quiver]

3.5k per day, not seein whats wrong

[pastel bramble]

@unique lagoon

[signal osprey]

Show your cauldron levels

[bold quiver]

as i said, it slowed down only at 24k

[signal osprey]

Lets see the decant stats

[bold quiver]

only 500

[placid timber]

holy moly

[signal osprey]

68 liquid per hour is not enough for 3k GT levels in a day

[keen rapids]

is your dc not in dark mode?

[bold quiver]

u do realize that its with lab right?.........

[weak vector]

do you have the alch lab active?

[pastel bramble]

dont start

[placid timber]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[tacit tulip]

If you assign 3 and dc lab you'd obviously get more, but even then you'd basically need to be clicking 24/7

[signal osprey]

Yeah I have 66 per hour with lab its still not enough

[paper sail]

You dare question Alvin?

[bold quiver]

ofc its not enough, who would even click GT with lab on

doesnt make sense

[keen rapids]

Bro your eyes man th 😭

[tacit tulip]

most people - because they have to do more with their time than click all day 😄

[signal osprey]

Taking lab off doesnt make 3k possible though

[bold quiver]

we have the same decant

[signal osprey]

The endgame consensus is about 1k per day

[bold quiver]

from 8k to 11k? how

[signal osprey]

Removing a 30% speed penalty doesnt triple that lol

[pastel bramble]

i was born in the light, raised in it, moulded by it. now the dark blinds me

[bold quiver]

whe i was at 30k i was barely getting 1k pe day

[paper sail]

And he did more than 5k+ lmao

[fallow aurora]

what 7 fish should I sample?

[placid timber]

me only getting 100-300 lvls per day 😦

[bold quiver]

yeah but thats my rate kkkkkk wth this , there isnt much to it. I cant go over liquid production cap to level anything lol

we have the basicaly the same liquid speed on 2nd cauldron

[tacit tulip]

lmao even mine is higher than that

[placid timber]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-sus-the-rock-meme-the-rock-sus-meme-gif-23972805

[keen rapids]

D:

[signal osprey]

Mine is nearly 10 times higher than that

[weak vector]

wdym it isn't possible? It only requires 12,297,621,074,476B sand

[swift hatch]

Same tho xD I just don't check often enough and have lab on haha

[bold quiver]

what is your GT at?

[signal osprey]

25k

And the 1k levels per day start even before 20k

[bold quiver]

i bet if u played 16h without lab on and clicked u would get more than 1k level in 1 day XD

not missing a single time

[tacit tulip]

if you did that you wouldn't be decanting either 🙂

[keen rapids]

So are you saying you did that o-o

[signal osprey]

I did thats the thing

[pastel bramble]

ur not clicking hard enough if u only get 1k levels a day at 68 rate.. lol i get around 800 a day clicking every 10min at 28-32 rates

[bold quiver]

yeah, i was posting on question 4 chat to some guys see my journey

i think most of the time i posted the start and end of the day leveling, something like that

[bold quiver]

he has more than 100 rate without lab on, its imposible that he only get 1k

[pastel bramble]

i started today at 4.3k im now 5k with only 28 rate on first cauldron

[bold quiver]

unless he misses clicks

[pastel bramble]

so u can defo get more than 1k lol

[paper sail]

You're either blatantly cheating, botting/automating, or exaggerating timeframes. No other options.

[bold quiver]

not after 30k

[pastel bramble]

maybe not after 30k yeah

mine is quite low 😄

[keen rapids]

liquid requirements being the issue D;

[bold quiver]

haha yeah, before 30k its not hard to get over 1k per day if u have good decant

[signal osprey]

Plus even if you can get more than 1k a day he got 5k in a day. Big difference

[bold quiver]

yeah because it was 8k

[signal osprey]

You went from 11k to 16k in 1 day

[bold quiver]

yeah

[placid timber]

[tacit tulip]

I've been clicking this all day and basically gone up 500

[swift hatch]

actually it was 8k to 16k

[bold quiver]

it chekcs how much it will slowdown by the time u get to 30k

[weak vector]

after it taking 1 day to get 3k? shouldn't it be diminishing returns?

[bold quiver]

like, if u search all my GT pics u will se that each day i was getting less levels, until at 30k i was barely getting 1k per day

cuz the cost is absurd

[bold quiver]

it scales very slowly

[simple storm]

How big of a buff is getting construction mastery rift bonus? I don't know if I should stop pumping chopping and try and just crank on damage so I can finish nightmare kattle and that damn rift 38

[weak vector]

People aren't questioning your photos; they're questioning your methods

[bold quiver]

wurms is better

[swift hatch]

wurms if you can

[bold quiver]

u just click for 16h straight, thats it

[signal osprey]

Yeah some quick napkin math shows that theres no possible way you did that even with perfect clicking

[weak vector]

that's only feasible if your rate was already 100/hr

[tacit tulip]

wish I could get 5k a day

[bold quiver]

then my game is bugged

[signal osprey]

At 11k GT the bubble already cost 600 liquid 1

If we assume 2k clicks is enough for 5k levels with larry that means you needed 1.2m liquid 1 which also assumes 600 liquid for every level which is also not true because it scales

My bubo gets roughly 8k liquid per CC and 4 CC's per hour which is like 32k liquid per hour

[bold quiver]

do u get extra liquid by being at cauldron screen when doing CC?

cuz i only do CC with that tab open

[snow light]

just woke up what is going on with sharing liquids?

[simple storm]

this is what I look like but with a higher cap

[signal osprey]

So you exlpoited

The bannable exploit

[bold quiver]

HOW is being at cauldron open an exploit

[keen rapids]

O-o

[placid timber]

[signal osprey]

What cauldron screen are you talking about?

[bold quiver]

the cauldron screen o.o

caudron

to check liquid and click GT

[signal osprey]

Yeah theres no extra liquid from that

[lyric sequoia]

Not even 3 draconics, damn

[signal osprey]

So you got 37 hours of perfect clicking done in 1 day

[bold quiver]

16h

[signal osprey]

Yeah and the amount of liquid you generated would require 37 hours

You did 37 hours in 16 hours

[bold quiver]

what rate did u use when calculating?

[tacit tulip]

VERY jealous of this

[snow light]

one day i will reach what you have

[signal osprey]

My bubo rates because you said you had the same rate

[bold quiver]

do u have 66 liquid with 3 person inside cauldron?

[lyric sequoia]

Draconic budies

[signal osprey]

But even if we say you were getting 100 per hour instead of 60 it still doesnt add up

[bold quiver]

im getting way over 100

i wont check but u can do the reversee math with my decant rates

cuz i'd lose my liquid lol

[keen rapids]

Can you drop your idleon effiency 😮

[pastel bramble]

how is alchemy xp calculated, do u get 1xp per 1 liquid or something? 😄

[snow light]

its miles ahead of my bubo setup i think you are doing awesome from my viewpoint

[signal osprey]

Even if we gave you 100 liquid per hour thats still 22 hours of liquid required in 16 hours

[bold quiver]

what if its 130

[signal osprey]

Plus that math assumes 600 liquid per level for all 5k levels which isnt true because the cost scales

[signal osprey]

Bro it could be 400 and it wouldnt add up

[bold quiver]

this is the rate with 3 people used on CC obviously

[scenic locust]

Does the bonus shown on golden food include golden food bonus %, or is the bonus % applied on top of what it visually says?

[signal osprey]

Thats literally not possible without exploiting

5k levels isnt possible

[placid timber]

witch class is good for candy use?

[pastel bramble]

oh my god. i forgot u cna put people in cauldrons ive been farming liquid 3 days without people in them ffs

[bold quiver]

how do u even exploit leveling GT

[signal osprey]

Whats your cauldron 1 look like?

[bold quiver]

790

[paper sail]

For what activity? Pure deathnote, ES or SB. SB also advances Forge and has high Anvil Production too.

[bold quiver]

it leveled more than cauldron 2, i dont know why

[signal osprey]

I know why

[pastel bramble]

ffs from 28 to 36, the amount of liquid ive wasted 😭

[lyric sequoia]

Not the only 1, but then again those sigils aint gonna unlock themselves

[brisk breach]

why does SB give high kph? is it in the movespeed?

[weak vector]

are we going to glaze over the fact that 68.6 * 1.30 is not 100 / hr?

[signal osprey]

No we arent because he exploited lol

[bold quiver]

i tried tounderstand why my cauldron 1 overleved my cauldron 2 and never figured it out kkkkkkk

[pastel bramble]

i think i got most the good ones already?

[paper sail]

The damage scaling from SpeeDNA from MS, yes

[bold quiver]

how can i exploit leveling GT? cuz those are my rates

[lyric sequoia]

Gotta push push push!

[bold quiver]

to get extra levels in aday

[signal osprey]

Just drop it man you already outted yourself

[bold quiver]

cuz the only dif thing i did was keeping cauldron opens

[signal osprey]

Move on

[pastel bramble]

how many hours for golden on that maestro icon one?

[bold quiver]

no like, i genuinely want to know how u can exploit leveling gt lol

[lyric sequoia]

I don't remember

VIP parchment is 42k though

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey did u do the math with my rates to see if it was possible to get that many levels in 16h tho?

[pine yacht]

what do egg capsules give from the Easter bundle ?

[pastel bramble]

its higher than 60k lol

[bold quiver]

86,6 rate

[signal osprey]

Yes its not even close to possible

[bold quiver]

86,6 rate without lab and is it not possible?

[signal osprey]

Even at 100 rate it would be 22 hours

[bold quiver]

but my rate is not 100

[placid timber]

for the alchemy bubbles so i can improve my bobo adventure

[signal osprey]

Yeah its lower

[bold quiver]

ITS HIGHER

[bold quiver]

86,6 with the lab on dude, are u smoking something?

[signal osprey]

86 is lowe rthan 100

[lyric sequoia]

Wait which 1 are you asking about? idk what the maestro icon is

[bold quiver]

u do realize taht is with lab on right

[weak vector]

I realized you're at pretty much the same place as me, though I'm pushing for gfood bonus since movement speed is capped

[pastel bramble]

ur second from last that u have unlocked

[signal osprey]

You do realize that it still wouldnt be possible with 200 liquid per hour right

[bold quiver]

my rate is way over 100, its probably around 120-130

[lyric sequoia]

Oh, 120k

[keen rapids]

Gummy bears, gems and gold egg capsules i think, the drop table has been removed from the wiki for some reason :/

[weak vector]

your rate is 68.6

[pastel bramble]

jesus christ man

[signal osprey]

Plus you never showed a pic of cauldron 1

Which thats the important one

Cauldron 2 is the easy part of GT

[lyric sequoia]

I'm just been golding them in order basically since sigils was implemented tbh

[pastel bramble]

woo weiner upgrade time

[lyric sequoia]

I was doing MS and gold food at the same time since I have 4 unlocking at the end, then 4 on the first non gold and 2 on the next 1 along

[signal osprey]

I should also mention all the math I did was assuming a liquid cost of 600 for all levels when in actuality the cost scales so that real liquid requirement is even higher making it even less possible

[swift hatch]

I mean, wouldn't that also mean they had cauldron 1 above like 500 BEFORE the GT grind, and considering they spent every piece of liquid leveling GT they couldn't have upgraded it then as well lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats my point

This isnt possible

[lyric sequoia]

The golding slog starts from VIP parcment basically, that costs twice what loot pile does to unlock

[hybrid spindle]

why is my IE lying to me? It says it's ready for rankup?

[lyric sequoia]

Click refine, you wont no balls

[keen rapids]

Can you drop your idleon effiency 😄

[pastel bramble]

cloudsave maybe u prob have saved time from wiz or something

[bold quiver]

https://nitiz.idleonefficiency.com

[eternal wasp]

Probably sync issue

[hybrid spindle]

....that's after sync lmao

[signal osprey]

Now drop a pic of your first cauldron because IE doesnt show those

[pastel bramble]

idk why yall still argueing about this alchemy thing, isnt it easier to just calculate his xp to check if he did it legit or not

[lyric sequoia]

You seem to be very purposely not posting pictures of your first cauldron tbh

[signal osprey]

Because even at 120 liquid rate like you said its still over 24 hours assuming perfect 24 hour uptime

[bold quiver]

i said, it was 790

[lyric sequoia]

Whillst making claims about it

[bold quiver]

o.o

im capped on GT by second cauldron, thats why first doesnt matter lol

cost is basicaly the same for both

one is 1,72k other 1,7k

[signal osprey]

So even at your current level its still like 24 hours to do it

[bold quiver]

i mean, those are my cauldrons, if there is an exploit with GT leveling its something with having your cauldron tab open while doing GT

[signal osprey]

Plus those decant levels are kind of insane too

[bold quiver]

cuz thats the only thing i did while leveling

[lyric sequoia]

Are you saying you had 141 speed the entire time?

[bold quiver]

yeah i dont know why those leveled more than 2nd cauldron

them not being the same was extremely annoying

[placid timber]

but you don't do night farming right?

[bold quiver]

my 2nd and 3rd are almost the same, but 1st is higher, idk why

[bold quiver]

yea i cant play overnight