#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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sim city 2000 and solitaire ghee
reading books and calling your friends on the TELEPHONE to ask if they'd come pick you up irl to hang out
The internet only came to be in 1990โs. Started before then, but only got the uptake to turn it into a network in the 90โs
Zapp Pagers
If someone wanted to page me, they had to call a number and a bloke would be sat on the other end of the line, you told them the message and then 2 minutes later it would get paged to me
all i remember is getting my beyblade taken away from me by the older kids 
We had conkers back in the day, before they banned those
and pogs, and tamagotchis
ok, now i need a nostalgia fix, to youtube
playing d1 with duped items from someone's older brother
now they all playing with their tik toks and vapes nd things.. diffnerent for 5 year olds these days
i remember printing my own yugioh cards and trying to use them when i played with my friends 
3rd rate deck
dead tamagochis
when i go out in public in restaurants and stuff, there's always kids glued to a tablet/phone with the volume up as loud as it can go 
"happy days"
well that's just shitty behaviour and we need to adapt to correct that, it's newer in the last decade so we just gotta figure out how to do it right colectively
i always get distracted to missus because damn kid watching.. some blue australian dog
BLUES CLUES? omg don't diss blu ๐ฆ
no way blues clues is still going 
anyone else get fever dreams of the big comfy couch?
that green shirt dude , aint see him anywere
PUBLIC MANNERS is a thing, be you, be who you wanna be, but don't shit on the whole restaurant cuz you'd rather throw a fit cuz you didn't get apple juice the tempature you like, stfu and eat your food or dont
lookin at you, random 4-yr-old next table over at the restaurant
fuck well id just start screaming as loud as i can right nnow
now pass me my damn vape
well and you have the right to, but i'm also assuming you're not at a restaurant trying to enjoy a meal, so in that case go for it top notch!!!
i literally met a friend cuz we were both like "oh there are tornado sirens going off here" and discovered we were in the same zip code
on an online game
so, it does happen
turns out he was RIVAL GUILD and took advantage of us!!!!! jerk.
but stayed friends w us after the game died and not his fake friends 1000 miles away, so we win
so anyone else see the tsunami outside?
yeah its like 20m tall
yep! no way
we gonna die together
well if it is any amount of meters tall, it's not here... stupid USA measuring
i think its like half a football field
cold looking ... 18 degrees celcius my guyesstimate
close, meter is CLOSE to yard and football field is 100 yards, 50m ~~~ 50 yards
close enough
how many yards tall are you
at least 1
all of them. i'm bigger than life.
who do you guys keep in lab after hitting lvl 75 on all characters?
dudes that have rabbit god for printing bonus
yeah I was thinking of ES and BM but wont I need ES for farming materials
Bubo so everyone gets the skill xp bonus from Vmans enhancement
ES is great at farming mats unless you want to just print everything like a well-prepared person
when not skilling / when you are CCing, swap them out for someone else
okay thank you
i still liked to get the 5 char bonus from lab, BM good one for lab, and checking eggs for higher power level
do you not use ES for anything?
then bears on rest or something
not right now, hes just in lab
oh do you have all the vials maxed out i take it? otherwise you'd be farming with ES i think? might be wrong here...
idk how far into the game you think I am
that's solid strat, i think people also just print the vials with Vman
you do want to shift them around a lil bit, bare in mind that you want to still get divinity to push up to the last god, and them getting divinity levels too via goat means stronger bonuses from the minor passives, having them in lab is just a bonus
90% of my vials are lvl 4
thought you were in world 9
so long run you wanna get them to lvl 13 but you have time
you're gonna shift around over time like tselkie said, you can fiddle around and see what works for you any given time depending on your goals
okayy thank you guys
you can unlink gods 2x per week so yo uhave room there, and you can always ask questions here too
conclusion on ES vial farming was that , dont wanna take time from DK active .. vman prints are enough to slow roll those final 12-13 level vials for mob drops
but i preferred to rush them all to 13 because.. more gamin bit % vial .. lmao
what are you getting from DK that ES displeases you?
praying game will bless me with doot
mostly everyone same ๐
do you need to speedrun to the end of w5 to vman print them?
just speedrun to the sample spot to print them, speedrun more portals first to make those samples better
damn. i don't think I could make it
just better off pushing DK on W5 or statues or .. whatever
since if vman can passive finish those vials off, then it just was unnecessary to ES farm them. statues in W3 etc were only exception
Active ES all the way bby
Its only the bosses that give you increased multikill, so if you can kill w1-4 bosses that'll give you a sizeable chunk on most mobs
you do NOT need to make it to end of w5, i just said that
i can't even get to Chizoar yet lmao
I was arguing against this strat too , but i later realised it did make alot of sense
what else vman print really
mob mats
not multikill, respawn bonus, even
wait are you just saying to speedrun for tab 4 points?
oh, vman print for sure, but ES earn his money too
who said tab 4 points?, hrm
how am I gonna get to w5 sample spots in speedrun without speedrunning
i haven't a clue what you're saying to me
but that's alright. I've resigned myself
I need to retry speedrunning with a new route, i keep forgetting / missing the tree, high score is 48
you don't need to do worlds in order
what will be the best pusher for w6 dk or bubo?
yeah but i can't speedrun to late W5 starting in w5
oh you're saying you want to sample w5 stuff... just skip the earlier shit but i wouldn't recommend it i guess? idk i'm not great at last world speedruns it's not the common thing people talk about
You kinda do
You get tespawn buff from boss deaths
i have everything up to w3 so ig i could sample some of them hmm
you kinda do if you wanna be USEFUL at it
cause bubo needs high damage and dk is map dependent
yeah sample some stuff you can acutally sample, give that a try
Bubo will be faster due to verticality in the maps, you'll get alot more out of DK though, and it wont be that much faster.
You'll want to get to citringe with bubo asap for the high CC yield, though
ill give that a try next time I'm resampling then
ah whoops~
yeah, lots of horizontal maps like citringe, DK will be a beast
lots of vertical maps and platforms, a high damage Bubo will be faster
I finished all W3 vials with ES active. it was probably a week or so on mob mats but additionally the statues from unique w3 which made it lil more worth too. also if sitll needed your ES portal kills
just definitely seems to be the more effecient and logical way to finish 13 vials for mob mats , not wasting time active on ES but vman printing them , activing on something more worthy like... whatever else .
shit what we even talking about again?
drop rate on gold twine from flombeiges making me cryrn, havent seen one in about 12 hours, and i need.... 29 more for troll armours
farmed 10 sets of molten armour (chest/legs/feet) in 3-4 days, but a day of farming jellyfish and i havent got the mats for a single troll head, BLEH.
twine is not from jellyfish? its from flombs
:S
Flombeiges are jellyfish, they look like jellyfish xD
if you wanna misname stuff, sure you go do that and expect us to keep up XD
another eclipse down ๐
I basically used candy for that
i mean i did name them in the first line too xD
it'd be different but we have a jellyfish
and a octopus
sailing clouds vs dream clouds, prayers are diff than divinity, it's all so confusing
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i think i count as spamming this channel , all night so ima go now
Can you summon multiple biggies at once?
I don't think so
drat, but orb score still affects them?
think thats a vman farm
i dont think i've tried since orb came out, what do you want them to drop just more gems? nothing else special
i can see vman doin it
mostly just gems and time candy isnt it?
it should do so long as Orb is still active
vman better for the card though
That is a good point.. only have them to gold
orb disappears when biggie shows up just checked
as long as the buff is active it shouldn't matter
nah it aint affect it , DK not good for instance bosses
makes sense, biggie didn't know orb when he was born
like running 2x colo - you don't have an orb for run 2 but you still build up score on the second run
heh
umm shit well I was told otherwise while back , but who knows they coulda been wrong too. also when i learnt vman 2x d rop talent also no workie on bosses
you are likely right cuz you know things but i'm too untrusting!
blame lava for not showing properly, nobody elses fault even if you got bad advice
that does remind me tho, I need to go spend all my colo tickets to gem up for w6
I don't wanna 
long live lava
what if there is a sweet sweet w6 colo
that gets moar gems
the drop rate would have to be insane for the ticket cost to be worth it
like, this is my life of anticipating regret in all daily choices always
I always gotta wait 30 secs after w4 colo for orb to end nd come off cd, then start next so its all ready to go again haha
like I don't even consider w4 worth it outside of a specific use (eggs for 75 breeding)
and too speed up damn 100k ladles
i think after 100k ladles, my dudes ordering ubereats from now on
130 ladels per collo thats only 10million collos to make 100k right!
i still have ~19 days for ladles minus any slight improvements i make in that time
i think blobyte is working for them now, after he screwed up his job at the docks
i am at 34k ladles, only a third done. at least my ladle guy has gotten significantly faster during the time
can't afford to pay mine no more , gotta send em out murdering now instead
what sux is i'm sure i'll get ladles in the next few weeks, but i'm not sure i can get any of the others ever
i know youre intentionally exaggerating, but the bad math still irks me
Is attack speed still capped?
i guess make up more beleviable math when you're lying
10.3million* sorry
I'm honestly not sure - I definitely attack faster than I used to back before w5 came out
feels like the gap between attacks has been reduced
where as iirc the attack speed cap was the animation of the attack itself
attack spd
that would be appreciated
.999 repeating = 1. 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1, 1/3 = .333 repeating, therefore .999 repeating = 1
close enough
if you really want to fuck with ppl you can extend that argument to "show" that any two infitensimally similar numbers are the same, and therefore by iteration every number equals every number
.999 repeating = dinosaur
associative theorem true and watch out for that velociraptor behind you, it's mad cuz you ripped all it's feathers off.
questions w5
a degree in mathematics is required for w5 questions yes
do you not have one? do we have to remove you?
work it out buddy i believe in you
i gotchu
very well played
dont hate the playa
your IE auto review is very nice. its also telling me I have
3170 hours and somewhere between 3.00 - 108.00 hours of variable candy in bank
what you think about.. blowing all this on afk island ???
Scoli's bot?
i dont have afk island (last one) and not in a hurry, i figure if it was great i woulda heard about it by now
all i hear is "ugh"
real credit to real person yes but , you did his marketing earlier so .. take some of the .. this sentence going nowere
umm yeah so .. its alright perm bonus's but a fuck load of candy. idk what else really to use it on however
Afk island is
if you hit the trophy really early with crazy luck
what marketing http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ (*tool in progress)
so 2000 hours of candy for .. that buff (wont spoil but yall can look up if want)
and possible trohpy
deathnote, finishing vials, skilling up, uh, lots of other stuff too
thingies and stuffsies
skilling I suppose , vman push to 150s or some shit heh
sounds legit
or just hold on for longer
sounds legit my style
lmao
finnally be able to finish shimmer with them all, by time get there
mighve saved enough
Yea I also enjoy hoarding
you have the 2k hour.. yet
yeah , im still on the 3x fury relic island ..
Superchow takes maybe 20-50h per mob so maybe that first, and eclipse after that are great uses for candy imo
hoggz got me beat
Afk island is kinda bad for me
those fractal islands are fucking bad aint they
None of the bonuses too good
dirty nuggets ?
prey for trophy luck i guess, and id take artifact. thats all
if fractal bonuses were good, we'd hear everyone talking about how they were grinding to fractal but nobody mentions it, so clearly not super
You donโt get a 4th when you dig 3 singles
meanwhile everyone talks about good bonuses non-stop like there wasn't a pin about it or something
Well sailing is person by person but itโs not crazy hard to do
So thatโs whatever to a lot of people
Kitchen costs is okay
Flurbs is just more rolling keychains
Trophy hands down best thing so far
never say no to less kitchen upgrade cost.. lmao yeah nah , really just gonna be the test of luck for trophy if anything
what else would you use candy hours on
True
i cant think of anything worth enough
the nugg bonus one isnt that bad as you always get at least 3 when popping your t5 chems anyway
dream equinox meat help there or is fractal more benefit?
True but itโs a drop in the bucket
Endgamers posting 15k nugs rolled
Waiting for an improvement
Definitely helps tho
improvement = stop being chad and go outside the house after 15k nugs
what is lucky nugget people posting these days
or are you asking numbers
230k over here, first upgrade in a month from 40k back when some time
180k is the namber
just went from 299k to 340k ... "yay"
went 320 > 360 > 999
i behind on new updates
you have your aligator teeth wrong
Iโm pretty stuck on dreams 
using them as arrows not greater than/less than lol
I hate lava for pickle locking me 
yeah pickle is annoying as hell
i not mad, aligator mad
I cam here for this staff
i got 88 pickles 
Sell them
no u
I gat only 22
should put pickles in the trophy shop
they just trickn you so you dont get your L13 vial
Share, I TBโd
i'd absolutely buy some
one day , ignore em
He should put pickles in the limited shop for gems
TB'd?
So I can buy golden stop watches with trophies
true i spend all my trophies on gold watches
Gotta get more daily clicks 
another thing to hoard and not use
how do pickles relate to gold stopwatches
You get one per day from watch
I DID use, this is AFTER i lvld up vial
To refras the shop
If youโve been using watches and not buying shop thatโs an L
he teleport blocked them so they couldnt tp away 
typical osrs guerilla tactics
When w6 will came out u think?
Early Jan
yeah, anytime you think
w5 was late late dec but he was a lot further along posting spoilers last year by now
iirc it was like 3+ months of spoilers or more before w5 launched
Between now and w7
I hope so
it was any day by now, at this point
it was also way less time between any world in the past
so jan or feb would be my guess
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eventually
around second week of december would make the most sense but lava also did summer event in august so
where dafuq is deathly and eg32 and
the 27th of december.
the likes of them
they all quit
probs lurking till update
You know what they say if you canโt handle the beans get out of the fields
some quit with doot, some will be around still
Does basic attack speed effect the speed of "spellcasting"?
insanely creepy vibes, if that the case
no that'd be spell cooldown speed, mana PO box plus some talents (tenteycles)
Yeah that ofc, but if multiple would be available then they could be casted faster after eachother
I know about the cooldown
Life is like a Bean,
Bean.
My bubo has been there
then what are you asking if you know already?
im not talking about cooldown reduction
what cast times
his cast times
times inbetween 2 casts who are both available
so cooldown not relevant
if your spells are in bad order on your bar it could look like bad cast times but other than that i dont get it
Spells take time to activate heโs asking if basic attack speed lowers that time
Nothing is going wrong
think the GCD is the trouble spot here
It was a question
Best map to farm statues in W5?
Thanks
Wurms
Thanks
Another question 
when youre afk farming for rares, do you go for DR or AFK gain? (ofc depends on how big the boost is too)
usually afk gains, you also want mob respawn
like when you compare kruk cape or molten cloak
if farming rares, do active
double the afk cards over the 30 DR s. yeah nah afk gains always one of the strongest
for anything afk
usually
I got luckier lad..
I actually like SB for candy rares honestly
better afk trophy for that?
so many different items these days haha
One of the Divine maybe simply cause of damage
only better trophy is the nothing trophy from fractal
what is the afk trophy , kattle ?
luckier lad is better than kattle
that new lucky lad is big DR though aye..
one day ๐ซก
actually insane
what is idle trophy , maybe try luck that one out now to be honest. im over the 4 months without the eldrich fury .. its not right, cant be
kinda don't wanna upgrade liquid 3 anymore lol ๐
17 more days.... and then I got it
i really should get that one too zzz
it'll increase eventually from alchemy levels / big drip 
how can candy be un-needed? 
gmush is forever hungry for candy
I get some ppl like hoarding
this was my next argument
just ignore my discord name 

was just a way to feel better about using on "nothing" haha
I seriously need that..
been ages since I got one
honestly. I really do too
im almost ready to swap all captains from loot to artifact chance
and no thats what im on now
this is gonna be game breaking i can feel it
well for the last 2-3 months
Im quite new btw, how long did lava take making the worlds before?
this seems super fast, but I was after w3 tbh
I see, I se
we had a lot of "finishing up" old world content between 5 and 6
rift, equinox, island expeditions
the world 4 completion quests etc
shit there are actually shiny pets
Lava released just w5 right before christmas - probably because people are away from school/work so it drives engagement
We'll either get it around then if it's ready enough - or it'll be next year
hahaha... yeah bro
Yeah I know how that goes
i hope sigil bonuses in w6 
yeah
while got you pickle , any other artifact boosting ... anything missing around worlds
still not nearly enough lol
Good morning everyone!!
i still have 83k hours of sigils before i can even start on the w6 one
ah, im not at the end of vials yet...
What does everyone else use to remember wtf you were doing and farming for what goal? I get confused. Just an excel sheet or is there a tool for something like that?
Sometimes I start farming something and then forget what for, and then farm something else and later get a bottleneck, and that's the one I was previously farming for.
working on garlic clove atm
I just pick one thing and obsess over it until I'm completed. No getting distracted by sub-goals
currently racing lava to world 6
i personally have a dump sheet i take notes on and do basic calcs on, but also using stuff like idleontoolbox can help, scoli's ie bot helps a lot too and will even more as it's more fleshed out
personally i use no notes. i log in and go "why the F is that guy collecting straws....oh right the vial" it notmally works itself out
forgot these things
~48
gg
7 more I can do in a reasonable time
dang thats more than 47
facts
i found discord likes to argue a lot, so im trying to stick to incontroversial facts
Cries in sigils
Right now I wanted to build X, but my 1st archer has to build it cause of crafting lv, but they don't have enough storage, and I don't have enough materials for correct pouch, so I farm materials and then I'm a week further without building the first thing
its ok let out your inner sewermonke
that is a gif
New ring movie?
remaining complete-able marked with red
a lot of people funnel most of their big bags to first archer/vman for that reason
trainspotting is a classic film ๐ฆ
the second spotting of train
you can do red salts, just become pancake
iron bars should be easy right?
yeah I just need to hammer out the candy
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been too lazy
SNAIL LV 18! i decided to go for it even if i had no protection Sakori haha
it was a small punch to the gut but i lvled it xD
i empathize with your candy laziness 
just smash em on idle trophy
candy can be used to gain time in the game
that's not gonna get me many iron bars
my main laziness around candy use is moving everyone to goat for the gmush kills
I just got upgraded my nugget from 143k to..... 145k
cant wait to get a higher nugget size
Feels bad man
goat increases afk gains
with these new swap tokens etc in shop.. is there ability to swap a .. 2nd SB for example to.. a second beginner/vman..?
no
i dont think you'd want that anyway
i wish
all good :3
all my characters just sit in div anyways, id gladly swap them to vman for printer procs
I have right now with my DK 1 in 68 crystal rate at beans. Would you guys farm power statues now or wait for a while until I get the rate higher? I want to farm 200k to unlock it on all characters. Should get 4k per 24 h I guess 
Have the cookie chip
yeah id take the second printer brr until w6 release or w.e
being able to switch to vman means being able to switch back anyways
yes
now that i have the slab, i have so many items i didnt drop and loot D:
i wont be able to get them anymore since most of my characters submitted it as quest
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Don't taunt me like this...
if you check completed quest, some item can be reclaimed for slab
Time to roll 1000 more
Gotta get 6.43% afk gains
Is DK the best to farm W5 Statues or Bubo? Both on worms ofc.

Time to leave beans and dust off the bubo
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just remember them when you do character 11
Character 11th when ๐คฃ
W6 maybe?
Farming/Apoth/Spelunking new w6 skills he said aye
My worry is god 9 gets implemented and is essential for w6 skills
and decending holes! don't forget to send them down
yeah cant assume ..
i can see spiritng becoming a thing linked with divinity
afterlife
there was a ghost card from halloween? Only one i remember is from christmas
my printer goes brrr print 8hour and 79% chance reset
i had unleveled bussiness with him apparently ๐ฎ
740B to 1655B eff
wonderful
printer hard caps (at 70%?) regardless of what the skill says
isnt it 90%?
maybe still 8hour instead of 7
You're thinking sample printer.. they're talking vman printer go brr
my printer brrr is max lvl and now its 79% showing but idc if its 70 xD
It definitely caps at 70%
Ahhh, yeah
was the event that just gone..?
Where specifically should I farm these
blabs at rats, pretty much anywhere else for clouds and subs
im confused. i had 1655B i went to gmush map for oak sample and im at 935B .-.
oh card set. xD
so close... my best is only 250M
not far to go, have you checked everything off the checklist?
i am verifying, i did mana snap too
I am sure you can squeeze out that 6m somehow
obols?
How do you snapshot mana ? ,cards ?
speed capped? etc etc
any quick meals you can upgrade skill eff haha
stamps
statue ! yeah 6m is close saf
everyone on snake?
not enough space to do the multi tool up ๐ฆ
doubled right cards, trophy? star signs correct yadayada
Star signs with starsign doubler, Obols, any AFK keychains in the doubler slot, check all the easy things first just to make sure you're not missing anything, check how many grass leaves you have to see if you're close to a break point with that.
also statue are pretty pumped up high
OH starsign doubler maybe yeah but i am missing 1 lab slot for it
doubling 20% afk gain is better right now
If you want to post your current IE we could probably take a better look
get the 75 lab brah
I'm sure you can get that 6m somewhere
thats it there
double the 3 star signs is bettter than...
if you aren't doubling star signs you're missing 5% chop effieincy, 2% prowess, 3% skill afk gain
come on gotta double those
assuming that you're already capped on multi log chance via bubble
weird, your IE isn't loading for me
i could get better skill tool on the trap box
oh wait
i forgot to put all my golden sandiwch
you mean grilled cheese?
yellow bread stack
ye
Grilled cheese'll do it, that'll be like 20% all stats xD
100k golden cheese now
ah yeah if your IE isn't as of right now might be kinda hard... because I'm guessing you have moved these keychains off of your SB onto your mage for sampling lol
Played gaming from release and finally got chem ๐
that'll do it
bruhh
and starsign double man , extra 15% food effect.. skill afk ..
are you snapshotting mana?
ye
all those event foods with 15% extra effect
dreadnaught skull?
thats your bill
event foods wont let you break the speed cap if you're already capped
check something*
Using this for sample gear, maybe you can swap pieces
and you said doubling afk cards were better than troll?
valentine box chocolate boost golden food?
Yaaaas the Omega Motherboard is for sale ๐
no, only boost food
k tought so
the double food boost star sign still be enough to put you over
time to start farming them krakens
i cant double it. i am missing lv 75 in lab on this guy
not if they're already speed capped
basically get that last lab slot and you'll have enough space to add the star sign doubler, how far are you off of it?
i might be able to boost some meal tho
boost up the golden food bonus!
got that misc stamp ? or a warr cauldron bubble..?
is vman higher level for the eff bonus?
+2% skill eff
haha
tht will do it





















i had only 6 library book, so i was like alright pray and lets get a nice book
first book: 233---240 increase
1B!!!!
Do you unlock future plants if you spam this or is there no point?
maino was waiting for that gif
After chem ^
you cant click it
good point.
gz
All that excitement over a 1% efficiency increase xD
1% is more than 0.9%
thats where you start thinking of every possible increase in the game, tryna get that final last 1% out of the perfect set-up. yeahh those the learning moments

Fishing is such a pain for sampling due to the different depth setups T.T
i need decent sand shark,
got lot of college stuff going on can't wait more time on idleon
and kraken
75 lab before your next sample dude o.O? ._D
wish there was a way to specify a specific depth for sampling
i know i gotta get those lv 75 lab
I just spam sample in all the pools with the appropriate gear
but i got too much important shit to do
and it keeps the best one of each
wait, you dont?
My goals before w6:
Finish onyxing statues. Wrapping up sailing + div then have all of w3 to get
Level w1 statues and possibly gstack them + w1 leafs
Get 1B oak samples.
Get a bunch of mob vials to 13
Get ES portal kills to 1M and SB plunderous mob kills to 1M (or 100k)
Anything else?
just leave your bubo in the lab and it will level everybody. I had only one there and now my mim lab level is like 87
just my bubo in there for real? hm
yeah but say, you wanna maximise the purple depth fish, you put on the purple depth rings, spam print, you'll still get other samples, wont that overwrite the same samples if you've done it with say, the yellow depth gear?
damn i should totally do that with my second bubo
yeah, it gets a shit ton of exp and the skill shares it. it is really good
vman changes up those talents somehow aye
nope. smaller samples never replace higher samples. you can test it yourself real quick too.
serrated rex ring or depth ring?
i think the second
I know this from experience because every time I go sample wood I forget to turn on the logs skill and freak out and then remember but the good sample don't go away
I think you'd only not use depth if you don't have it
argh, i've been sampling to focus on one type of fish at a time purely to try to do that
headdesks so hard that the desk loses
the way fishing works increasing depth increases results a lot
776 nightmare runs later
which is better necklace-wise for purple fish, then? skullfish pendant or Divine scarf?
yeah it is not intuitive at all. I know because I happened to notice it at the right time. there are so many stuff that can go over people's head that it is hard to even make a list of thing that people may miss but in the end it is better knowing later than never
and effeciency not as big for fish. you reach certain point, only speed/afk gain is real increase
true eff isnt scaling a lot
I've got 5 of those, but have yet to see the necklace with half of its droprate drop once xD trade?
test it but I'd always bet on depth
ooh devine scarf is skill afk or something ?
basically, increasing depth increases how much of your efficiency is working towards that fish
maybe depth then , that sounds good
so in a way depth multiplies all your other stats
depend on the fish though right? goldfish same depth just as strong?
golden watch doesnt accelerate god unlink?
bro i just used a golden watch for nothing ๐ฆ

the skull skill sometimes crashes. do you have any other than the basic skills on the bar?
I remember a year ago, the skull ability that bounces was the issue. people dont use it now though but.. maybe ?
haha you onto it hachin
you can also try forcing a refresh on the page (ctrl+f5 I think) and try clearing the cache but that would wipe your local save
(I assumed browser for some reason)
if you're on steam CTRL + R will reload the screen if you get the white screen crash
you'll still have lost progress but its better than restarting from the last cloudsave
if you're on steam you could try rechecking the game files
try change game worlds n shit, turn off/down all the settings
how the hell do i keep up with void ore in refinery? is every slot in my forge supposed to be void in end game or am i missing something lol
nd yeah idk , memory or some shit not smackin out 100% in an hour or so haha
lets see sandshark/kraken/goldfish
archer smelting everyday procs
ah ok
Use oil proc archer
ty boys
you can turn off portal on screen/ hp bar/quest logs/ talent notify etc etc . they all assist
turn off the salt 
use to have to do with pet arena/TD
lmao
Iโm actually keeping up with void on 1 slot in forge
Murphy says hi
guess you've got to leave 5 GW2 clients open all night
they probably run better than IE yeah
you could try and set up a recording to see what happens
damn that Murphy
not ever sleeping should fix it too ๐คญ
or afk a diff char , narrow down the issue haha and solve it for lava
rewarded in discord moderator status . winnnnn
didn't even think of that, now you're really using your brain
work for free for an idle game
also make sure your pc isn't doing automatic updates etc at that time of night, lots of programs will do maintenance stuff which can do odd things to your pc if you're not there
oh yeah. that could definitely be it
specially since it always happen in the middle of the night
weird for it to freeze the client
it might be some esoteric bullshit still
you the only one noticed this recent?
ore sample time
What boss difficulty is best for gem farming?
Should be the same DR for all bosses, so I would assume normal mode
.5x missing i totally dont know where hm
oh trophy doubler
forgot i had just sampled with him xD
20.04x DR crystal build ๐
time to farm bac some candies with boss and all. cause dang i have 0 candy
normal efaunt with DK - give that a go (or BM) ๐
efaunt wiht dk, for the orb xD?
i should wait until red salts are full right
actively dropping in front fo my eyes a lucky lad with 180 orb stack first minute in the room xD
Always keep red salt to be able to rank up
never 10% or anything
always full for red (and green) even if you're out
best "mob" for farming small life potion.. need like a shit tons for greenstack and for saucy logfries
gotta love when my DK orb gets me 1 boat statue...
alright ty
Poop or wood mush
ofc on a es right ? ๐
Wood mush is prolly es for poop im not so sure
It would be ES on both and wood mush is a lot better
what drop from crystal=DK what from mosnter=ES
i will try them out then ๐ thx
i would go dk on wood shroom imo
how long did u need for that
Definitely do not do DK at wood shrooms. Flat map doesnt mean its a good map. Mob count is just as important and theres no mobs on wood shrooms
feels like a month, with the first couple weeks trying to learn everything
damn
DK on boops tho 
there is just soooooo much
what boxes should I open for ES in PO after 200x in civil war? Should I focus chop for 200 for better samples?
chop and mana is nice on ES
if you're p2w yes
both at 400 tho
at a certain point skipping time in IS becomes irrelevant
you get candies easily without p2w
and without exploits too
But it won't move you to tee hee 15
talking about exploits in here is a big nono
jsut heads up
I don't make the rules, just giving you a friendly heads up
Can I get the unfunny hat?
it's technically an exploit for idleon too, though, since there's a crossover event
... are you unfunny?
Very unfunny
I say you send a request to Lava then
I'm pretty sure that'll convince him
Hey Lava, I request an unfunny hat
Examples y I'm unfunny
A) I don't make jokes
B) refer back to A
21 biggie hourglass! a nice cnady haul
when 11th character is unlocked i sort of want to skip w1 so i can never pass gmush
not gonna get your new char a class?
i didn't think that part through
you're being very funny rn tho
It is reasonable you would assume such a thing however the implied dry humor is not there
It's important to note that there are different levels of humor but also important to note that humor generally is selected to the mass of the population. Which is y it humorous to many.
time to resample Vman!
Are you aiming for a specific fish or in general? Cause the fish you sample is random you'll probably end up overwriting another fish with a worse sample if you're targeting one specifically.
i mean i can just spam and delete sample if i am doing it. but i got the combo good ^^
i got the sample i anted ^^
dont u only sample if its higher?
and yeah that too.
afaik you can't overwrite a good sample with a bad one - it'll take the highest of the two
Lower samples don't overwrite - No concern there. Same as many times as you want/need to get the proper Fish with the proper line/lure combo.
So just pick the best ring and line combo and go to town sampling until you get the fish you want?
Ah, fair enough! My mistake then.
I need to do my prints today, blah
I have heard some stuff about max material costs in alchemy and using atoms, can anyone link to information about this? Can I just keep leveling them for the same max material cost if I have a really large print?
Bubbles cap at 1000M resources, though the water continues increasing.
Something else gives +10 more upgrades per day limit, but I can't remember.. Maybe a W5 achievement
So in alchemy, if your bubble costs 100m+, there is a new blurb up top to spend Particles instead of the original resource
Later bubbles much more expensive :c
I think that's basically it?
i messed my vman sppedrun so bad xD
forgot to remove previous sample, couldnt take new one but a better penguin pen one..
Welcome to the club
and really missclick everywhere
50/72... so slow
best char to farm cards? bubo?
ES
20T ๐
5k pens down, 14k to go
then all the boxes 
more exp -> more points in the future
I've just not bothered doing pens in forever
I probably should to make out myriad I just don't want to
portal increases DR for anything that drops from wormhole mobs, which includes item normally drop from the mob itself
Oki
still lacking some DR on my DK but i always seem to forget the reason why. xD
at what level can you start farming alchemy with bubo ?
oh obol.s xD
there's no real lower limit - you just need to get your talents as higha s you can and go for it
i guess once i unlock smarty boi
people farmed bubo before w5 was out
I keep failing D: need more talents points
time for sand pot DK farming
sand pot dk farming ?
orb+lot of crystal chance and cookie chip and lets go ๐
farm w2 sand pots with divine knight
for the cauldron statues ?
w2 statues, glass shard, etc
just for statues overall, leaves W2, and im just saying what imma do
but for you, i think it doesnt apply since you are aiming for bubo farming based on the previous question
lava funded by big carpal tunnel 
How good is the function to set what minimum chest you get? Does that mean I get less chests but only see the ones I get minimum of?
basically yeah, it'll delete the chest if you get a lower one and the boats will cycle for longer
typically not worth using
I have it set to silver chests, is that still good
that's assuming he ever does anything for it. it's been 3 worlds and countless suggestions for how he could fix it. nothing has changed, might as well earn your free stats
arrowhead bad, better just use SB's unending loot iirc
I fully expect to be done with pens before any qol gets added
Use neither, they both suck
Yeah I heard sb unending was a trap
i know its bad, but its only a suggestion if they are planning for >24hr afk or sth
but if playing actively or check every 2-4hr, dont use SB talent
do people run ruck sack when activing on ES?
Eh just suck it up and deal with the lost hours tbh. Both of them make you lose out on 20 more chests
Yikes 
kinda need to
Does anyone have Salt input/output info after rank 20? The pin in W3 stops at 20 ๐ฆ
i use rucksack on all active chars
u mean this?
It's good to get into the habbit of changing those prayers every time you change active charts
prob referring to actual rates in number
oh duh
Component Cost and Power per Cycle
Good morning scoli,circ,Sakori hope you hada great night?
Well, actually I don't even care about component cost I don't think since I'm only after salt input which I think is equal to the rank
Well that isn't correct.. idk how salts work lol
How much orb score to i get adept recipe to fight purgatory stalkers?
Good Morning ๐
hi there trickz!
it's already getting dark here ๐
as high as you can get, unless if orb talent level then up to 300 if no mana box
My child only slammed her head into my face twice overnight, instead of the usual 5+. I count that as a win
exchanging one problem for another ๐
but dont think the map is good for DK because 3 platforms and vertical gaps
I started working on alchemy today according to @vagrant mountain's advice
big gains right there
oh lord, you have it much worse off. at least you know that you've "finished" myriad lmao
i'm now down 7k pens, i remember why i was dreading this
I'll have a burst of energy at some point and just complete the lot
and probably break my wrist
200+ base stats is kinda nice, though
is there any case where w5 card set > boss card set
i forgot to sample sharks last time and i haven't finished that vial yet 
guess i push logs hard for another week and then do a resample
when afk killing mobs, usually
oh it hadn't updated when I took the screenshot, these are my gains today
it's pretty easy to check the comparisons on that but usually the afk stat is better, there will be cases where the damage might matter for you though
also if your w5 set isn't up to snuff it might not be as good
2% afk isn't much but 10-12 is pretty sweet
And the kills?
cant say exactly, it depends on your luck but you also want to get as much (base) kills as you can, note that kill in deathnote doesnt mean base kill
base kill * DR is the only thing that affects rare drops iirc
Oh
its basically a matter of "i want as much as i can"
Crowdsourcing info. Anyone with salts of rank 22-50, hit me up with a screenshot 
Some of them are sub 50 
https://i.imgur.com/CVqiq6k.png
Does that count?
Can only give you 29 for now - Red Salts (not sure if that matters)
That doesn't show me the info I need :c
They're the same ratios at each rank regardless of color
Family glacials complete. Now time for personals 
Best way to farm (copper and silver) bars is 2min AFK claim from archers, right ?
Rank ups just keep going faster and faster.
He needs the cost/cap/cycle stuff
I want to 13 both vials
1hr candies are an option, too. Get you some Gmush kills, anvil production, and Worship Charge at the same time
Eh, best is just use 1h and 2h candies always on your sb when you do stuff like eclipse or gmush kills etc.
1hr candies doesn't give more bars than 2min afk claim, right ?
Correct. But using a 1hr candy takes ~5 seconds
correct, but it's still easier when you have 100's to even 1k 1h candies, since u can burn them faster than doing 2min claims
Got my 1b+ copper bars within a day
But I'll consider doing that cause I still need 100M DN on some mobs (>W1)
Nothing related but I love your autoreview bot @paper sail, I needed some help to know which bubbles I had to focus on
autoreview bot?
Auto review?
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203 - I made the scuffed Banner :P
stare c'mon do it
Guys....
What the heck does the keymaster do in the mines? And what the heck are codes?
they're for the idle skilling crossover
there was (is) a crossover with lavas other game, idle skilling
progressing in that game on steam unlocks items in idleon
Is it worth?
yeah though keep in mind IS is a full game, so you'll be playing 2 games ๐
I want hold and spam use 1h candy ;(
some of the goals are easy to get, but its down to you if you want to do it, the top reward, the idle skilling trophy, is currently BIS for samples, but will take you 2 months + to get
And do I have to log in to steam for idleon as well?
The final reward is generally considered the best Trophy for Skilling Samples, but it can take 1-3 months depending on how efficiently you play.
just steam for skilling I think - the codes only generate on a PC
Goodness
but you should be able to use the codes from any device
I like to support his content, but dang... kinda wish I knew about it earlier, lol
fwiw it's more simplistic than idleon
and idleon is built on a lot of functions from idle skilling
Farming, the w6 skill he's teasing has an idle skilling version too
Idle skilling is alot more of an idle game than Idleon is, imo.
yeah true
Wish skilling mobile had codes, completed that game before steam release.
Well duh.. If he forces you to do it over again on Steam, you might spend more money 


