lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[paper sail]

I don't have the utility bubbles finished yet, but sampling bubble recommendations are in the bot http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[hexed crescent]

In real life you don't support gacha by having a big dick though

[vapid cove]

boaty hat is skill eff no?

or is it all xp?

ah

[paper sail]

Such a tiny difference, I've never bothered caring

[vapid cove]

forgive me im a pleb without a boaty hat

[paper sail]

We have different definitions of "not much issue"

Depending on the class, of course

Sounds like you're doing this in the wrong order then lol

Fix your alchemy, improve GT, then do active farming for class levels

[wispy sapphire]

any particular way to farm the corporatube/instalab/cloudsound items?

[paper sail]

Are you some uber endgame Chad I've never met?

[burnt sail]

Passively while you focus on other things. It will come with time.

[wispy sapphire]

ok thx

[burnt sail]

Also, get the quest on all of your chars. That way they can all passively be farming them.

[paper sail]

Anyway, we went off topic. I don't know of any other +xp items

There will always be beans

[chrome tiger]

when i'm really bored i do quests

[paper sail]

Fair enough. I'm just getting back to it after Bubo for a couple weeks

[chrome tiger]

or cog clicker

[burnt sail]

When I'm really bored I play Runescape.

[paper sail]

Pretty decently. I put 200 quests as my goal for the first sweeping round

Sounds like you're basically on par with me though

90% is a great milestone

[chrome tiger]

you can still click, just less than hourly

i do maybe 4-6x a day

also when you claim if you get printer procs you can click

[paper sail]

One last shameless plug before I go to bed: Try out my IE AutoReview bot. DM me if it breaks lol http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[obtuse rover]

Early on I decided to push for a minimum level of 200 on all bubbles to make sure my NBLB procs would ever get soaked by easily leveled <1b cost bubbles, plus it was just a nice round number and goal to aim for.

[chrome tiger]

eh, less you play the better

[true anchor]

whats the best class to do crystal island on

vman?

yea

[paper sail]

Usual advice is the classes that are poopy to level actively- BB and BM especially. Vman is an okay 3rd

[chrome tiger]

does crystal stack if you miss a week?

[true anchor]

next lvl milestone for me is 500 on all which wont happen for a while so ill do vman thanks

he needs lvls anyway

[chrome tiger]

oh shit it's daily

[true anchor]

they build up

[paper sail]

I haven't tested it, but I've heard that the amount you get per day is consistent until 7 days. After that, you get less per day until you claim.

I do it on the day of my weekly reset always, maybe once more throughout the week 🤷

[lament jasper]

Ngl thats pretty good

[true anchor]

Is there a damage suggestion for it?

My vman only has like 1-2 bil iirc

[chrome tiger]

if, if you're really really really bored, you can work on the idle skilling trophy

i can't stress how bored you have to be

rip

[void pulsar]

anybody have any "Everybody move it move it" quest suggestions? doing this manual pains me

[chrome tiger]

is that the one where you have to kill the moving mobs?

i don't know a trick

[void pulsar]

yes x.x

[true anchor]

i just did it fine at 1 bil thanks

[broken wren]

I reset my SB talent points to recongifure them and now my damage is a third of what it was, I do not know what I did wrong

[vapid cove]

you played yourself

[broken wren]

fr. mustve been a glitched character

[vapid cove]

i had something like that happen when i made a second BB

[broken wren]

my sb has always had by far the most damage for some reason. till now

[vapid cove]

my second one which was like 200 levels below the first having the improved skills of the first

so he was broken for some time

[obtuse rover]

This is pretty normal, for SB to have very high sheet damage.

[vapid cove]

probably movment speed tbh

thats like 80% of its dmg

[broken wren]

its at 242% rn, im a lvl 304

[obtuse rover]

There is almost definitely something different between before and after your reset. It's pretty rare that there's actually a glitch involved. There's so many silly little things to keep track of in Idleon that players are almost always forgetting a couple little things that add up.

[broken wren]

My cards and cardset looks good

prayers are fine

[obtuse rover]

With the caveat that you could end up with really weird damage on mobile platforms if you overflow certain values, but it's usually lategame people who can do that and I never play on mobile so I don't know all the details.

[broken wren]

I do switch a lot between mobile and pc

[obtuse rover]

Starsigns, lab chips, lab connections, active buffs (like the move speed buff)

If you just used up a massive amount of gold bars in sailing that might have had some effect. I can't remember off the top of my head whether there's an artifact for damage per power of 10 bars or not.

[vapid cove]

yeah i wasnt lighting up 100% of the lab stuff when i did I got a big dmg buff

[broken wren]

yeah the only thing I did was check sailing, maybe something there did it

[vapid cove]

card sets star signs

[broken wren]

lab looks fine

[sick sentinel]

Also u reset talent points, did those go to the right places?

[broken wren]

think so

[sick sentinel]

Movespeed buff on?

[broken wren]

what is that?

[sick sentinel]

The archer active talent that increases movespeed

[obtuse rover]

On the second tab there's a buff that makes you move faster, and you need it on your bar and active

[vapid cove]

also increased dmg for every certain % over like 110 speed or something

dont remember

[broken wren]

Oh yeah, its assigned and is 152

[obtuse rover]

Is it currently active on your character?
That's important for your sheet damage to show the improvement

[broken wren]

Yeah im active on it now, my max was at like 125 million, now its 51mil

[sick sentinel]

Do you have an updated ie to share? Too much we would need to ask for

[broken wren]

1 sec

https://megadanman.idleonefficiency.com

[sick sentinel]

Updated on 8/11

[broken wren]

hol up lol

https://megadanman.idleonefficiency.com

didn't know there was an update button

[obtuse rover]

Might take a bit before it updates

[broken wren]

yeah hasnt updated for me

[sick sentinel]

Yeah unfortunately it will be a few minutes

If not longer

[broken wren]

nw, appreciate yalls help

[gilded pond]

Is there a way to improve odds for chem type plants to spawn in gaming? I can't seem to get enough for a chem chain

[sick sentinel]

U got kitsune on?

[gilded pond]

Yeah

[sick sentinel]

Just gotta pick and pray for more to spawn. I leave my chems on the board til i have a good amount, maybe like 8-10

[gilded pond]

That is what I expected, I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a bubble or something I was overlooking

[sick sentinel]

Thats just me tho, u can do less or more to how u like

[obtuse rover]

It gets more consistent as your grow timer becomes shorter, evolve chance increases, your log chance to reset increases, and sprinkler gets better.

Sprinkler and log give more chances for chem to appear and grow timer + evo chance make the freshly-spawned chem plants hit T5 faster.

[gilded pond]

I will start focusing those upgrades a bit more. I've been emphasizing grow time and bits gained

[vapid cove]

im finishing up W4 cards and chocci cards take ages more than the other ones

wonder why

[potent panther]

i have 323 anvil points left, what should i spend them on, only speed or something else too? i am trying to reach lvl 50 to craft anvil tab 4 currently lvl 48

[vapid cove]

speed is what you do

[burnt sail]

Your SB is using Fibers of Absence prayer. Take it off.

[vapid cove]

gotta go brrr

[broken wren]

I've had that on for a while, but taking it off made my max dmg go to 80 mil

[burnt sail]

Take off Balance of Precision, too... have a hard time imagining that you need the accuracy boost.

[broken wren]

threads for faster leveling

[vapid cove]

which tab is the soul gum and peanut packet because can also craft those and they give a lot of xp

[broken wren]

Tab 3

[sick sentinel]

Damn the link still hasnt updated for me

[broken wren]

strange

don't roast me too hard lol

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-do-it-gif-24435329

make em ash

[broken wren]

The Ash Lord will have the last word

[burnt sail]

Your talent build looks mostly fine tbh. You're a little too heavily invested in Active skills. It's not necessary. You could spend those points better.

[broken wren]

I was preparing for Rift 16, but its a bit out of reach rn

[vapid cove]

ik what you mean the dmg scaling is a bit much for me now around rift 31

its dummy damage

i can push it but if i cant one shot the mobs yet for the lava skulls it irritates me

so im gonna chill

get my gains up and then go

[broken wren]

hard to remember its not a race lol

[vapid cove]

not hard

just dont compare yourself to others accounts

everyone wants to be the best

[broken wren]

yo momma hard

[vapid cove]

but dumb to ignore the best dmg multipliers in alchemy

[broken wren]

jk

[vapid cove]

oh noes

[broken wren]

I got to 72/75 skulls then it went to 0 lol

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/watchusay-what-did-you-say-about-my-momma-marlon-wayans-gif-17472184

[broken wren]

i said whoever threw that paper

[vapid cove]

man i love that movie but its so crazy

[potent maple]

keep or toss knowing they had a good life while it lasted? more on next page too and this lucky lad shit is getting out of hand

[sinful aurora]

No further use once you've crafted gold tools. Not used in any recipe.

[teal rain]

I just unlocked Goharut and linked to him and slapped most of my characters into lab, I have mantra on as my style, but it seems like my other characters aren't gaining divinity exp

Is this intended?

[sick sentinel]

Did you change your vman talent page stuff too? It updated for me finally

[pearl cedar]

And they drop pretty much every time you kill defacus

[broken wren]

No I haven't messed with him in a few days

[sick sentinel]

Hmm tough to tell, side note you should use the golden kebabs in ur storage instead of one of the base dmg pots

Did u possibly reach the stamp doubler node in lab before and arent reaching it now?

[sick sentinel]

Also do you mean to have all food effect on as your cardset?

[fast grail]

ok, actual progression now was stuck for a little bit

[vapid cove]

I didnt notice but at some point i hit 90% 3d printer cool

[sick sentinel]

More bots/fun stuff

[fast grail]

Will just be leaderboards, but yep

[sick sentinel]

Hell yeah

Is it just a few ppl for testing rn?

[fast grail]

just whatever IEs i have yoinked

[sick sentinel]

True

[fast grail]

can add yours if you want

[sick sentinel]

Sure just sec

[fast grail]

it pulls off of public IEs

[sick sentinel]

https://dee_znutts.idleonefficiency.com

[fast grail]

added

[sick sentinel]

Hehe tanks

[clear quartz]

weep

just short of 1b

[vapid cove]

its a good chop anyway since probably has a multiplier

in printer

[sick sentinel]

I assume they want the equinox dream 1b sample

[clear quartz]

gonna run out of stuff to spend equi on soon if i dont get it. will have to start raising cursed fused lab

[sick sentinel]

Almost there!

[clear quartz]

skill lvl 101, so i guess i just need more of the meals, maybe ruby tier on the card set, unsure what else.

[sick sentinel]

More alch and stamps lol

[clear quartz]

guess 90% on stuff not enough, ah well. will get stamps pushed eventually, maybe try again in a few weeks or a month :/

[slender sandal]

sigh 3 bottom chips and 1 top now, it's like a bad harem manga

[clear quartz]

my cards kinda weaksauce, i think ill have to do some w3colo and finish off dumb redzoar

[safe knoll]

is there any reason to keep going after u beat round 200 or nah?

[sick sentinel]

Not rn

[runic token]

Curious about Zow/Chow on IE vs toolbox. There are a few on IE that aren't showing up on toolbox, should I just ignore them?

[signal osprey]

Looking really good so far. How long until you think its finished?

[obtuse rover]

I think a frisbee leaderboard would be pretty neat

[placid tusk]

W6 shop speed potions pls lava

[fast grail]

Uhh. honestly not sure. Sampling leaderboards are pretty much setup now as well as foundation to easily add more types of leaderboards. If i 100% trusted every person, i could make site public now. Just got tons of the webserver stuff to setup now honestly.

[paper sail]

Weird to see me highest in fish and flies, considering I'm not highest in the others. I guess maybe I spread my bubbles more evenly O.o

[fast grail]

Would people prefer spores samples or freesbee sample? Or both?

[obtuse rover]

My vote is frisbees, personally.

[signal osprey]

If only one i would say spores due to relevance but Frisbee wouldn't be bad

[fast grail]

can add both, they would probably be almost identical ladders though

[paper sail]

I'm too lazy to Vrun just for Frisbee sample lol. That's the difference

[obtuse rover]

But frisbees will show the dedication of people who care enough to dedicate a sample slot to something as goofy as frisbees.

You're right, though.

[signal osprey]

Part of it is statues. Mining and fishing share a lot of bubbles so my fishing should rank high but my samples were pre onyx

[fast grail]

gimme like 5 mins to update DB and querys and will show with profiles i have now

[signal osprey]

Didn't have those fat feasty gains for mach 12 fishing

I took a test setup for catching today and I'm looking at a rough estimate of 105m or so flies

Gonna easily get the 20m+ fruitflies too

[clear quartz]

at least this is some girthy gains on my bubo

bubo might end up being how i get the rest of the way, bubos talent lvls are kinda mid on some stuff, so ill come back and check in 1-2 weeks i guess after i max everything and get like +20 choppiing lvls, might get me there

this alone is pretty yikes, but yeah lol

[worthy skiff]

Jackpot?

[cyan bone]

Are there other rare drops besides Frisbee which can be sampled?

[hollow osprey]

how to reach such high amounts of afk gain rate?

[cyan bone]

I'm reading you can only sample the first item in the loot table, so answer to my question seems to be no

[elfin cape]

Hehe, I didn't break it this time

[obtuse rover]

Correct, frisbee is not a "rare" drop, it's just a normal mob mat that is less common than others
As you say, you can only ever sample the item in the first slot of the loot table.

This is also why it's affected by multikill (while "real" rare drops are not)

[elfin cape]

What's a good frisbee sample?

[snow light]

you can sample frisbees?

[elfin cape]

Yeah

[obtuse rover]

What is "good" will depend a lot on where people are.
150+ maybe?

[snow light]

holy... i remember when those were hard to get

[obtuse rover]

Frisbees are the base material that wood mushrooms drop, so they can be sampled like any other base mob mat.

[elfin cape]

Takes too long for greenstack, too long of not printing combs

[signal osprey]

Just don't gstack it

[gritty sierra]

Does bitty litty stack if you have two DK?

[craggy wren]

what sort of obol set up should I be pushing for

[elfin cape]

Full DR, Kattles, a build rate set, and a set for each of the W1 and W2 skills

[nova heath]

guys i inally hit it on my bubo

[craggy wren]

thanks

[fast grail]

there we go, had some issues with updating already existing records

[elfin cape]

Are you doing that manually?

[fast grail]

No, pulling data from public IEs, getting the info and slamming into sql database. leaderboards generated based upon database

[noble sable]

Zamn

[snow light]

hell yeah bottom of the barrel for me baby

[noble sable]

97m goldfishos

[fast grail]

just wip rn, but slowly making progress

[dense prism]

finnaly i can use other chars than ES

[thin kernel]

any good way to farm time thingy fast? as i try to greenstack it XD

[dense prism]

DK green beans with choco

[noble sable]

Amarok

[thin kernel]

does he give lots ?

[noble sable]

Yeah

A lot

[thin kernel]

one kill 33 of them XD

im better off beens then 😄 ( dk dr 18.62 ) and ofc chips for choco and other chips

[dense prism]

damn kachow statue doubled my dps

[vapid cove]

kachow crit dmg is nuts

[old parcel]

where's this located? didn't see it in alc...

[dense prism]

vial

[old parcel]

thanks

[tulip kayak]

omg do me

https://z109.idleonefficiency.com/

[tulip kayak]

send ss of ur vials?

[fast grail]

added

[tulip kayak]

LETS GO

[deep osprey]

wtf is this

how in the hell

[deep osprey]

That's not legit

[tulip kayak]

kek

not mine

[fast grail]

yeah, that is nowhere near legit

[rough wasp]

It’s lord Alvin

[vagrant mountain]

howd you get a pic of my money

[rough wasp]

[tulip kayak]

indeed

[deep osprey]

https://iricebowl.idleonefficiency.com/

[rough wasp]

Alvin will rip off a piece of his godshard for his believers

[tulip kayak]

are you gonna be able to view past top 10 on ur website

[tulip kayak]

hes not playing until w6 😦

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/ducks-duck-bread-eating-eating-bread-gif-21356646

[tulip kayak]

or master of nothing buff ig

buff in rates that is

[fast grail]

PLan is to show top 10 or 20 on front page, and then page a seperate for each leaderboard showing every person. PLan to add a "filter" to front page, like a box where you can type your name and it brings up where your positions are

[tulip kayak]

sick

when are we gonna be able to visit it

[fast grail]

no idea, whenever i finish it. mainly have to work on security stuff now and prevent blatant hacked accounts from being uploaded

[tulip kayak]

cool

wait no I wanna put alvin 😦

[fast grail]

Got quite a feww leaderboards idea i want to add as well

[tulip kayak]

how long does it take to add a lb

[fast grail]

depends on how easy it is to find in the json

[tulip kayak]

oh ok

[deep osprey]

Most bob pickles collected

[fast grail]

but like, added leaderboard for frisbee earlier in like 5 mins

[vagrant mountain]

needs to be a leaderboard for cogs for hands

linear bubbles need respect

[fast grail]

Actually doing the other task based leaderboards next, so trashed cogs will be there

[potent maple]

anvil mats goes off of mining bag or mat bag?

[fast grail]

mat bag

[potent maple]

next/same question: hampter is ES grind or DK grind?

[vagrant mountain]

afk grind

but if you must, use ES

id say bubo actually beats ES until you can get 150 portal

[potent maple]

i'm sure i'm way past that...

[charred granite]

hey guys, doot users can do any work with their char and still gain divinity exp?

[tulip kayak]

no

[charred granite]

ursa + goat works like that?

[tulip kayak]

you have to be in lab

[charred granite]

ok, i thougth ursa makes you in lab and goat since u are in lab u can do divinity

[tulip kayak]

nope you have to actively be in lab

hence this

[potent maple]

ok on moles I am ~150 portal

[vagrant mountain]

should be fine on stilts

[potent maple]

so i'm torn, i could care about hampters to get 2 more characters max mat bags to help me on anvil mat vials, or i could use that same ES to focus on mob drop mat vials...

[vagrant mountain]

personally, i did all my hampters afk , get like 50/day on each character

[potent maple]

prob more than 2 characters need max mat bags, but i only have 2 that are always maxed out on capacity when i go check

vials for statue deposit is really my number one motivation basically

[vagrant mountain]

just do whatever keeps you going

[potent maple]

caffine

[vagrant mountain]

yeh that'll definitely keep you going

[potent maple]

i got 6 hampters since i asked about it a few mins ago

[vagrant mountain]

the hampter grind begins

[potent maple]

nah i get some here and there

i just didn't realize i was down to 1 bag's worth of hampters

[keen rapids]

Green stack when?

[potent maple]

i was pretty lazy for a long time so i just did whatever, i had tons of hampters before i even got around to kruk achievements

but now i'm on this onyx/vial kick and that's driving me for weeks now

probably because it's achievable goal even for midgame lazy players, just taking me longer but I can do it. it's not like i'm off on required dmg by like 100x

[vagrant mountain]

never

[keen rapids]

But you need vial tier 13 too

[vagrant mountain]

its ok i will stay midgame

[patent hatch]

this is really sad...

[potent maple]

twinsies! i just had a very similar, 300k to 350k, I was hoping for a HUGE jump

[patent hatch]

yeah its such a feels bad haha

like a 5% increase

[potent maple]

next time friend, next time!

[patent hatch]

makes me reeee

[potent maple]

oh i had 8 chem plants and accidently hit harvest all so ...

[patent hatch]

rip

either i get it tomorrow or i can just do C4

[potent maple]

went through a bunch of character login gains and logs and sprinklers and am back up to a whopping 1

[potent maple]

i have another 18.9 days on this provided i don't upgrade anything before now and then

[patent hatch]

not all that bad

[oblique peak]

hey guys i just unlocked goat and need to re sample pretty bad, how do you set up gods for sampling? i plan on sampling on all 10 and i dont have doot

[patent hatch]

mine was faster cause i have 2 BB

[potent maple]

well hunter doesn't really sample at all so forget him for min/maxing, and vman samples mob mats during void runs instead of on a skill, so leave him out, the other 8 you'll want to figure out who is going to camp in the lab with bunny god and who you need in other tasks

hopefully that follows?

[clear quartz]

wooo 54 speedrun hiscore

from 42 before, nice gains

[potent maple]

i mean, i know you're sampling on all 10, but those 8 you'd treat the same and the first two you'd wanna make sure you recognize their differences

i'm not explaining well i'm way past tired i'm sorry 😦 hopefully someone else can take it from here 😄

[vagrant mountain]

i had doot since I started w5

[potent maple]

basically if you camp them in lab with bunny god, you'll get *6, i think that's the basic info you're looking for

[patent hatch]

god i wish i had doot

i would do anything but spend money to get it

anything >:)

[potent maple]

omg twinsies again, watch us both get free rolls for it like next week

[oblique peak]

if im gonna get bad mob samples is it worth putting vman on bunny?

[patent hatch]

did my roll just now and got a slime

[vagrant mountain]

have you heard of feet finder?

[patent hatch]

nup

[vagrant mountain]

basically you can sell pictures of your feet online for money! 😃

[patent hatch]

ooooo

[vagrant mountain]

not financial advice

[patent hatch]

Well I do have a full time job, but I wont spend money on a gacha system :/

[potent maple]

well you're gonna wanna learn how to get good mob samples, and also you can switch it up 2x per week so i'd say start with something that doesn't scare you then learn the next step after that

[potent maple]

i used to spend money on lava, hundreds between this game and idle skilling easy, but no green gems for me

[oblique peak]

im just in a bind because im going out of town for a couple weeks :/

[patent hatch]

Yeah I bought 4 packs over time but stopped buying anyhting since the companion release

[potent maple]

oh well then just do you're best and you'll have big gains whatever you do, enjoy your trip!

[oblique peak]

thanks! appreciate the advice

[potent maple]

even if you do something half-assed that's better than no-ass, as in that's better than not doing anything. even the wrong answer is better than no answer

so just do... stuff 😄

[oblique peak]

these are my current prints so at least they wont be getting worse

[potent maple]

maybe let your vman get levels or stick someone on a map for mats that you can instantly spend in quick ref -> alchemy so even if you cant carry everything you can still spend it

just being creative here

[oblique peak]

yeah thats kinda what i was thinking

[potent maple]

cuz you can level up vials with crap on the ground even if you cant carry it

hrm might be that you can lvl stuff up out of your inventory and it picks up new stuff, so carry cap might come into play

details matter

[oblique peak]

my concern is prints like contact lenses because my vmans damage is like 4m-7m so idk if i can even get there in a speed run

i might just have to print outside of speedrun for now? lol

[potent maple]

you could go straight to w3 and nuke your way through, eff the early portals when sampling is your only goal

get there, gather extra easy portals, then sample. you don't have to do more than you can do

[oblique peak]

okay

[potent maple]

like i always say, i'm lazy, not perfect, but hopefully this helps give you ideas of how you can pull something off that makes you happy for your trip

[oblique peak]

ive just unlocked so many new things and its a pain in the ass trying to optimize it all immediately

just got vman a couple days ago, ill settle for a lazy print

[potent maple]

oh so welcome to idleon, it's a mess 😄

[oblique peak]

haha

[mellow shadow]

can we have a shout out for @paper sail 's amazing auto review tool

[potent maple]

i've had vman since it came out and i've only done like less than 10 speedruns so i'm definitely failing myself there, halfass is better than nothing

[potent maple]

i've already fixed several things that I thought i finished months ago, I was missing storage, hadn't maxed anvil points on my last few characters, knew which stamp I should be ashamed of, etc etc @paper sail

[vagrant mountain]

since everyone's pinging you anyways @paper sail ily

[potent maple]

i wouldn't have if sips hadn't

[vagrant mountain]

we're just making the ping(s) easier to find 🙂

[young locust]

at what dmg number did yall try nightmare kruk with VMAN, im at 10bil

[vagrant mountain]

most people do it around 100b, here's a guide with a video at 88b
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[oblique peak]

wow that auto-reviewer is pretty cool

[quartz urchin]

Best 4 pet line up for equinox? tried borger refiller mono looter/rattler and my best is 84, minimum power 60k

do i just need to get lucky?

[potent maple]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1161718287835603004

pet setup in top few posts

need peapod

[quartz urchin]

got everything unlocked

thank u

[sinful aurora]

Mono in arena?

[potent maple]

sometimes yes.

[quartz urchin]

i was just copying the build id do when i only had 4 slots lol

[drifting breach]

What class does most damage

[sinful aurora]

So you were ready to spend 24h doing that?

[vagrant mountain]

sb

[drifting breach]

WHST THE FUCK

[potent maple]

well whst the eff are you going for or trying to accomplish?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah whst are you talking about

[clear quartz]

have several things now on hourly duty, although my hourly atoms is way down as a result, might fiddle around with some of the things if i end up strugglin

[vagrant mountain]

did you forget to resample ores or something?

[clear quartz]

only did one dude on ores, 6 dudes was enough sampling to make me wanna rip my skin off

[vagrant mountain]

ah

[clear quartz]

did all 3 mages, bb, dk and vman for a proper void push

[vagrant mountain]

a lot of good clicks from ores, they're worth getting it right

[clear quartz]

so only 5 samples i guess

dk has several good things in the backlog, so i may rotate some of those around. gold/iron or maybe toss on void to pump that severapurple ig

[vagrant mountain]

sampling is a chore but it's better to get it all done on one or two days and let relic build up

gold is good for name i guess

[clear quartz]

right

i need to push warrior stuff hard still before i really wanna go ham on sampling, second dk is super weaksauce tho, need to pull him out of lab someday and get his books to be less useless

[vagrant mountain]

golden peanuts are multiplicative too so make sure you are crafting and equipping those

[clear quartz]

gonna hope having the warrior bubble on prints and maybe getting some other things on atom duty will get me to 90%+ on things there

[vagrant mountain]

🫡

not a bad play

[clear quartz]

only have slabe wis left of the mage stuff, and that one will be "soon"

[vagrant mountain]

if I were you, I'd just resample my ores sooner than later to start building up gold relic, it'll help you get into bi/hourly range for a lot of clicks

your gold sample could easily be 500m and that'll turn into a 1b print after a couple weeks

[clear quartz]

im hoping in another week or maybe 2 i can do sampling again, since bubo i think will overtake my ES with sampling, maybe get that cursed 1bil equi done finally, would like to leave it alone for awhile for relic for sure

[vagrant mountain]

oh true i forgot you are going for 1b sample

kind of a niche situation but i get what you are saying

sheet damage is all that really matters for the most part though

[clear quartz]

oh right, i gotta do shimmers and killroy again. WHAT FUN

guess i have all week since just reset, but still

[short fulcrum]

how good is the hat in the boss shop which i can't afford anyway?

[clear quartz]

i have yet to get a setback, my luck must be running out

post equi and big nugga tho im unsure snail is all that important. but still, number gotta go up

[vagrant mountain]

snail still important if you are going for last superbit

needs like lvl 23 snail + 100m+ nug

for 90Q red bits

[clear quartz]

oh yeah i havent even looked at that one

pain

[keen rapids]

When purple bits?

[clear quartz]

have been eyeballing the nblb one soon, figures that last one would be bigmclargehuge

[daring ravine]

when Lord Alvin blesses us and him

[mellow shadow]

Hey everyone, I still need to complete Can you do the can can? quest lmao

However, I will never be able to catch 3 cans in-a-row because my passive fishing skills are too high so I keep multi-catching other fish also (which breaks the chain)

Any tips?

[austere path]

What is the biggest source of capacity?

Stamp?

[mellow shadow]

and passive cards

[austere path]

What card?

[mellow shadow]

and all chars have 50+ fishing lvl

like all cards, cus I have the Rift thing that makes all skill cards passive

[lyric sequoia]

Get lucky is the answer

[sinful aurora]

It's just luck. No matter your skill it will happen. If you catch every 3 seconds, you're bound to get it done in under 5 minutes.

[austere path]

Skill card give max capacity?

[mellow shadow]

But it will never happen if every catch is Hermit + other fish

[lyric sequoia]

Capacity is bags until you’ve got the biggest then just the stamp

[mellow shadow]

oh you're talking about something else ig uess

[lyric sequoia]

Every catch isn’t always different things, you can get 2 hermits

[sinful aurora]

You can catch 3x hermit quite easily.

[mellow shadow]

hmmm

yeah but then it's just 3x hermit haha

that doesn't count as in a row

appaz

well i'll just patiently wait and see

[austere path]

Yes, I mean capacity for mob material

[sinful aurora]

Yes it does lol

[austere path]

I see ppl got 1m capacity

[sinful aurora]

I guarantee if you alt tab for 5 minutes and come back it's done.

[daring ravine]

if you do the 3x hermit cans in a row but then you catch another fish it resets thus you need to get it again

[sinful aurora]

Does it? I tjought completed quests stopped updating.

[thin rose]

Why do you keep posting screenshots of your cheating friend

[vagrant mountain]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=capacity

[austere path]

Thanks

[daring ravine]

yeah i dont think they dont (some of them)

like the bill burr odd damage one for example
you can hit 8 odd damage in a row (quest is done) but the moment you hit the 9th time with an even damage its all over

[tulip kayak]

I would never

[steady beacon]

My SB forge skill seems to cap out around 80 starfire bars, regardless of how much time I afk. So far, I've seen i cap out within max 37 minutes, possibly less. Is there a way I can improve this, so I don't waste as much forge progress?

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/fqhk1Tj.png

After you kill doot, there is an invisible crystal crab up here

If you auto fight, you can hit it

Actually it seems to spawn multiple of them

wtf

[vagrant mountain]

increase forge capacity, starfire bars will always be slow because of how many ores it takes to form a bar

[tight saddle]

OHHHH the game must think those flying iron balls as kills when they despawn lol?

[vagrant mountain]

this is the doot mush that you can superchow on bb

[tight saddle]

???

[steady beacon]

would it make sense to reset my anvil points on my 2 SBs and put everything into forge capacity then?

[tight saddle]

So it's intentional?

[steady beacon]

Has anyone experimented with the optimal balance?

[vagrant mountain]

anvil capacity is not linked to forge

[steady beacon]

oh. wait, how do i increase forge cap then?

apart from the achievement that gives 50% more

which i have

[tight saddle]

How weird

[vagrant mountain]

there is only the achievement + arcade shop bonus

[steady beacon]

ah, bummer

so i'll just have to check my SBs every 30 minutes then if i want to push my starfire/void/dreadlo bar production

is it a bug (aka lava coding), or is it intended behavior

?

[vagrant mountain]

intended afaik

you should be able to max out your forge in 2 min claims

just throw some books into the talent

[steady beacon]

oh wow.

do i need to claim it from the forge to reset the cap? or does just logging in to the character do it?

[vagrant mountain]

just logging in will do it

[steady beacon]

got it, thanks!

[vagrant mountain]

np

[thin rose]

you just did

[zealous niche]

Only if you’re maxing anvil before claiming it

No point having extra capacity if you never reach it

5M allowed for me to nab threads daily with no overflow

[daring ravine]

thats not his friend
thats him,
obviously

[thin rose]

at this point I believe z109 is alvin

[daring ravine]

cant be

z109 is z109
alvin is alvin
they have diffrent names

[thin rose]

truee

it's like nyxon is nyxon
and hellmuth is hellmuth

totally different people

[uncut hull]

where can i find Scolis auto rater?

[warped grail]

only 2 onyx statues left... almost

[patent hatch]

ok, i think its time to do the 121 wave equinox

[clear quartz]

hmm i guess i have learned a lesson about taking bubo off bear, RIP my cc

[slender sandal]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[late grove]

Can someone explain why I can't get the last planet on gaming

[patent hatch]

Took me 11 months

[late grove]

I'm there

Since the world 5 update

[keen rapids]

Skill issue

[teal lynx]

Try after every single plant harvested. Quantity > Quality

[late grove]

I thought so

[keen rapids]

The pro strat is wait until it hits 100% then refine 😉

[floral jackal]

XD

[late grove]

I did that forever

[patent hatch]

took me 40k plants harvested before getting there I know ur pain

[late grove]

Untill I started to question myself

I will get snail soon but no mechanical

[teal lynx]

Then you might just be unlucky, sorry :c

[patent hatch]

I had the snail for a month or so before getting chem :/

you may be the same

[late grove]

💀💀

[uncut hull]

Im at 33k plants harvested and no chem

[patent hatch]

but it helps you level kitsune which speeds up process

so fingers crossed

[uncut hull]

my time is nearing i can feel it in my balls

[patent hatch]

the balls are heavy my guy, the release will come

[late grove]

I feel nothing

Is 1k first bubble is end game now or am i lacking?

[patent hatch]

lacking

[late grove]

Thought so

[patent hatch]

times that by 20 and you'll be there

[late grove]

I prefer a life

[patent hatch]

then there ya go

[worldly hollow]

gotta have the fit together lol

[thorn marsh]

is god ranking worth it?

[fallen torrent]

12hr of lost active farming 😦

sad time yesterday

oh wow, i didnt do maestro skill bonus for sampling either last time @paper sail i am outraged.

ELDRITCH SOCRATES!!!!

[young blade]

I know its not lava's fault but it'd be cool if he gave a gift or domething

[fallen torrent]

yeah true!

i wouldve had 2 vial crowned with those 12 hour active farming 😦

like a doot for everyone

[untold lintel]

honestly, i missed out on rolling my free weekly pet as soon as it was available, so I couldve missed out on doot, I think a /give don69s doot is in order

[quiet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/mummy-losinj69-gif-12181214

sorry this was all we had in stock

[zinc torrent]

i missed out on 12 hour afk gains cause i had the 10 hr prayer on

[fallen torrent]

hey keith, got a warrior to do Doot at pizza 2?

a guy needed one guy for it and our warrior decided to die on the spot not talking anymore hha

want to help this guy but we need 1 warrior at pizza 2 to the sandgiant portal

[valid plume]

thats a pretty hefty nugget!

[fallen torrent]

nice!! gz!! keontai!

got a warrior for me?

just need this quick 1 doot for this guy that has waited for a while haha

[valid plume]

ye sure

pizza 2?

[fallen torrent]

pizza 2 at giant

yep

[valid plume]

one sec

[fallen torrent]

good im waiting there

[untold lintel]

in theory, for the defeat w2 dungeons boss stage 3, since there isnt a timer, if I can just do the quests and get to the boss I can just sit and attack him for however long it takes right? theres no timer thats not showing right

[desert night]

Correct

[untold lintel]

i hate how like 3 of the 3 stage challenges are bugged, i always get unlucky and get like 2 of them out of 5 i can have and cant get 100%

[fallen torrent]

time for me to finish copper bar vial

[vale wadi]

do you guys have the prayer royal samples always active?

[fallen torrent]

always

for my part

[untold lintel]

fuck me, 3rd stage needed 2%

[fallen torrent]

50M copper bar left. but no more candies 😢

[desert night]

Thankfully, my beastmaster sucks at taking samples, so I don't bother there. I take off royal sampler when I want to gain some skill levels.

[fathom lagoon]

Are the servers booted up

Someone finally hit the power button?

[thorn marsh]

was just the beta test of w6, it'll be out tomorrow

[fallen torrent]

Stop lying to people tjo

[autumn hollow]

For infinite starsigns, do they first need to be unlocked by constellation points, or do you still benefit from them regardless?

[daring ravine]

Yeah w6 releases on the 27th of December smh

[daring ravine]

Regardless

[thorn marsh]

I will never.

[fallen torrent]

i'll tell your mom then

[thorn marsh]

pls

don't

[fallen torrent]

too late.

[thorn marsh]

also, I would rather call it heavy speculating

[fallen torrent]

I got socrates few mniutes ago, imma let it slide

[thorn marsh]

that's the last one I'm missing 😦

[fallen torrent]

going for the meal one and then the crystal eye

[thorn marsh]

just can't get it

[fallen torrent]

the dungeon eye*

skills havent changed, obols didnt, lab hasnt change.. yet i am missing 1xDR

[tacit tulip]

weekly battle reset so you gotta re-earn the talent

[fallen torrent]

i did

still missing it.

[tacit tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fallen torrent]

oh i think i know why. i dont have midas anymore for the portal farming

yep yep

[pine yacht]

ah... would have made it trough wave 150 acorn but it crashed...

[fallen torrent]

😦

[paper sail]

[dusty sand]

So, I just unlocked onyx and deposited the 20k for chopping and I just got the onyx chopping statue but no additional progress for chopping. Thats normal?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

it upgrades it to onyx, but consumes the statues in the process

so nothing actually goes into the statue progress

[fallen torrent]

We all love scoli

[dusty sand]

thx

[fallen torrent]

vials are going to be completed!!! soon!

mammoth in about 30minutes, rats in about 4hr, stiltseer in about 6hr

copper soon probably too

[signal osprey]

First level 90 tower

[fallen torrent]

Bruh

[paper sail]

Windows Update claimed another victim

[viral snow]

When lvl 100
Gotta pass pancake

[fallen torrent]

my construction cog board is finished and yet, im just averaging 55-60 in wizard tower

[signal osprey]

Well first I need to even unlock the ability to go past 90 lol

[viral snow]

Just edit some json files
Alvin would be proud

[signal osprey]

Alvin

[cyan shuttle]

storm waiting for you

[signal osprey]

Assuming I dont get lazy with my gaming I should be able to upgrade carbon again in a few days and then I'll be on my way

[pearl pebble]

what is the best w5 merit purchase

[cyan shuttle]

but you'll stop at lvl 100

[signal osprey]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[pearl pebble]

ty

[signal osprey]

Yeah but hopefully by the time I get there I'll be at 2500

Or at least pretty close

[cyan shuttle]

[signal osprey]

Also wouldnt max carbon be 110?

Thought it was 2 per level and it gives 10 more levels

[cyan shuttle]

true

so lvl 140 towers

even more impossible smh my head

[old trench]

For gaming, should I pick my plants ASAP, or let them evolve? If it helps, I'm very new to gaming, so my evolve chance is only 14% per cycle.

[signal osprey]

Just wait until W6 adds more buildings too

[signal osprey]

Early on its usually worth it to try claiming pretty often to get more dna for unlocking new plants

[old trench]

Thanks, also should I let my DNA build up or just use it? I think that stockpiling DNA has diminishing returns but I'm not sure.

[fallen torrent]

Imagine if i had a doot 😦

[safe harness]

use it fairly quick, by the time you get to last plant...you basically want to be claiming .1 which is like at 11ish evos

[signal osprey]

It has very bad diminishing returns. Always spam as often as you can

[fallen torrent]

dna build up, in like breeding grey ones?

[pearl pebble]

if vman and another char is lvl71 in mining, is it considered rank 1

[fallen torrent]

oh

gaming.

[thorn marsh]

my very first lvl 500 toon \o/

[sweet pine]

is this abit low after 13 days?

[pearl cedar]

No

[sweet pine]

i'd expect like 600

[signal osprey]

It really just depends on what all you did during those 13 days

[sweet pine]

been focusing on this

[signal osprey]

Also maybe you forgot something when you sampled the 519

[fallen torrent]

did you have the maestro skill up? for bonus eff?

[sweet pine]

i do

[fallen torrent]

cause i forgot my maestro skill when i did mine, still got 150M bonus sample but couldve maybe gotten 1B

[sweet pine]

i guess that it

[fallen torrent]

finished mammoth tusk Vial 😄

[sweet pine]

1b is a long road indeed

[fallen torrent]

gotta redo all my sample when i can link again, i messed up my ES

for some reason i was looking at snehebatu god, and it linked me to gpat

so yeah...

[sweet pine]

i only resample oak/bleach or maybe toilet logs

[fallen torrent]

couldnt Harriep triple sample my oak, so im losing quite a bit on the week

[inland gyro]

has anyone here done the idle skilling crossover... game said i unlocked the afterlife but i have no ideal how to navigate to it

[sweet pine]

for log stuffs only

[fallen torrent]

i have to resample Everything as i got a huge boost

[sweet pine]

time to mining and etc

[weak vector]

what XP/hr should I push for on Vman?

missing ~5% afk on bunny bc I only have one top-right doubler, which I have on my bubo for crystals and cauldrons atm

[sweet pine]

are you leveling his chopping?

[safe harness]

how many rank 13 vials do you need to get snake vial to 100% with vial mastery

[pearl cedar]

27 iirc

[teal lynx]

27 vials

[safe harness]

thanks

[inland gyro]

theres a top left and bottom right doubler. nothing for top right

[weak vector]

regardless, i only have one top-left

[weak vector]

Signs would point to yes

[sweet pine]

if that's the case, try to get to equinox area and play minigame there

it's huge

[weak vector]

funny enough, equinox is giving me less xp/hr

so pretty sure that would mean less minigame xp too?

[pearl cedar]

Been awhile since i leveled chopping, but pretty sure i was around 1.5b+

Maybe closer to 2b

[sweet pine]

weird

let me go there and do some mini-game with my vman

[lost tendon]

the fuck which level is ur vman

1b xp per hour

[weak vector]

he's only 104

[fervent yew]

i mean, with 280% afk gains rate~

[pearl cedar]

Your chopping speed maxed?

💀

[weak vector]

also no snoozy cap

[pearl cedar]

What's your speed?

[weak vector]

44

i just don't have a ton of saucy logfries made

[pearl cedar]

Not using any boost food?

[soft chasm]

Where can you see attack speed / Skilling speed?

[weak vector]

Nope, for that reason

[weak vector]

skill speed is shown on the skill tab

[pearl cedar]

You're missing out on like 50% exp

[sweet pine]

per mini-game

[weak vector]

ok fine 😆

[soft chasm]

Ah! thats one mystery solved.

[weak vector]

I also have 3k golden ham, for anyone wondering

[fallen torrent]

Mammoth tusk vial and Greenstack replenish finally done!

[pearl cedar]

You might also be better off with the two skilling prayers off.

[sweet pine]

seem like you found it, now i have to delete my shameless picture above

[weak vector]

when I did the calcs it seemed like it was better with them on

[pearl pebble]

damn i thought when my vman got rank 1 in mining it would double my warrior prints but it increased by like 20%..

[weak vector]

could change my levels on infusion if i really cared to max my gains

[pearl cedar]

Might be I dont know last time I didnt have enough eff with dimwit off for chopping

[signal osprey]

Yeah in most cases the positives of each prayer offset the negatives of the other so its usually a net gain in exp assuming you need the efficiency

[pearl cedar]

Yeah I think only time I required both on was for catching

[sweet pine]

so how many %XP you get per mini-game now?

[signal osprey]

You dont need many. 1 boost food will last for an entire afk session

Just make sure to turn off the auto arm so you dont kill your food stacks in storage

[fallen torrent]

^ ! so just equip one everytime you get afk and then no matter how long you are. you'll always have it in effect for that afk session

btw how you donig contract

[signal osprey]

Cant wait for W6 to remove the speed cap for chopping/mining so event food isnt useless

[fallen torrent]

Sample going 2-3B now. without the cap

speed cap will boost hugely the gains

[pearl cedar]

On the other hand, i think I was using like 40 mining boost food for a 24 hr session so it isnt a crazy amount used

[signal osprey]

Yeah I normally just craft a few hundred at a time and they last my vman quite a while

[pearl cedar]

Remove speed cap, prowress cap, multi resource cap

[signal osprey]

No multi resource cap would ruin me forever

[chrome tiger]

finally

[fallen torrent]

Good morning Buddha!

[signal osprey]

If you think I will ever atom a bubble that isnt multo loggo...

[fallen torrent]

@chrome tiger !! 1 meal on each table, further meal on the faster table and fastest meal on slower table, dont just use it on one!

[chrome tiger]

oh right, thanks

[fallen torrent]

many dont think of it, i felt you were gonna do that xD

and dmg,meal speed,skill eff, is pretty much great meals to go for

and whatever you need the most

[chrome tiger]

sausage

[signal osprey]

Use 100k ladles on a new meal discovery

[pearl cedar]

Good morning

[fallen torrent]

XD

already ahve all the meal

i cant wait to see some new meal

143M/1000M nails. and so it begins...

[signal osprey]

I cant wait to see W6 launch with sets of new dedicated skilling gear that definitely isnt long overdue

[fervent yew]

i need to be kicked up the butt and made to get the last few spices, i'm still missing the last 12 meals >.<

[fallen torrent]

Contract, i got Socrates this morning 😄

[signal osprey]

I forgot to redo the weekly boss last night so I had no DR talent all night

[fallen torrent]

last night i wasnt able to get into the game.

lost 12hr of active.

i wouldve done 3 vial by then haha

[fathom lagoon]

I’d be done w w5 statue farming by now

2k statues left

[fallen torrent]

haha

you have doot?

if yes. dont complain 😦 xD

[fathom lagoon]

I am indeed a dooter

This is the first time I’ve experienced dootscrimination

[signal osprey]

Burn the dooters

[signal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/uprising-village-angry-grab-pitch-forks-gif-16568046

[nimble palm]

Fire, underwater, I love this

[fallen torrent]

what if they are just an agglomeration of fireflies that swim underwater 😮 ?

[weak vector]

Also- this doesn't feel right to me. Max keychain is 5% so shouldn't this only be 15%?

[fathom lagoon]

Qq, for DK orb, is 100 = 1x dr? So at 500 add an extra 5x to my current DR?

For ex mt dr is 13x, at 500 orb is it 18x?

[sweet pine]

you have 2x 10% and one with x2 so 30%

[sinful aurora]

Max keychain may be 5% but you can have afk on both stats, so 10%.

[signal osprey]

No it doesnt actually gives DR it gives additional rolls at loot. 500 orb is equivalent to killing that enemy 5 times

[frank shard]

is this efficient or not?

[fathom lagoon]

Ohhhh okay sweet great explanation. Thanks brotha

[fallen torrent]

one is 20% by doubling and one stays 10%

[weak vector]

ohh right, bc you can have afk in both keychain bonuses

[sinful aurora]

It's pretty unrealistic though let's be honest.

[sweet pine]

i think maximum is 36% but not for everyone

[weak vector]

This guide also has amarok and bunnny twice?

it does, but it doesn't specify those are also excluded from "All Skilling"- just says persephone and blunder hero

[sinful aurora]

Oh. Well depending on how you read it i guess.

[weak vector]

"* - Persephone's Bouquet Pendant and Blunder Hero Trophy not equipped. Because "All AFK Gain" Equipment are better."

[fallen torrent]

kattle pendant is much better

(kattle scarf) *

[sweet pine]

wait can i double the skilling cards with chip which already turned into passive card?

[fallen torrent]

no you cant double passive card

Amarok and troll Eff card is what i double for my part

[weak vector]

you can, but amarok and bunny are better bc they aren't passive

[fallen torrent]

i never double bunny

[sweet pine]

i meant for example maple tree (ruby) giving 18% right?

[sinful aurora]

Troll isnt passive

[fallen torrent]

60% eff troll card is op to double

[sweet pine]

if it double it will be better than amarok

[fallen torrent]

Amarok/Chaos Troll card

[weak vector]

actually i don't think you can double passives, sorry

[fallen torrent]

you cant, i said it

[sweet pine]

yea

sad

[sinful aurora]

But troll is NOT passive

[fallen torrent]

yeah. no one said troll is passive

this is why Troll chaotic is great to double

[weak vector]

if you're going for xp/hr, troll isn't great if you're already at 100% efficiency

[fallen torrent]

? 😮 ?

[sinful aurora]

If you're not a vman, you dont need exp lol.

Just samples

But fair point, bunny better for vman. Agreed.

[fallen torrent]

once oy uget decent lvl you dont need more

yeah thats true on that point

[hollow osprey]

my skill lvl goals for my toons should be 70 for dreadlo tools right

[sinful aurora]

Yeah, full dreadlo everyone, eventually on all skills as well.

[weak vector]

eventually get 100 on everyone for rift

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[sacred monolith]

Finally 10/10 on divine trophy

[sweet pine]

anyone stacking gold pocketwatch for next event?

[signal osprey]

[sweet pine]

your next event will be lit

[heavy moth]

almost 1 month 😮

[vapid cove]

what if you forward time so much you get no event dun dun dun

[signal osprey]

I might not use em on an event tbh

I'm thinking W6

[heavy moth]

w6 😮

[sweet pine]

i tried 3 times, 150 box that day

[teal lynx]

W6 release + an event + good trophy run would be god tier

[vapid cove]

probably gonna do the same thing no candy/ time thingie

[weak vector]

[tall notch]

Just got my bubo to tremors and i doubled my cranium cooking gains

Feels good man

[untold saffron]

what are the optimal star signs for sampling?

[rapid python]

Any way to outright buy a sailing relic? tired of waiting on fury.

[rapid python]

whats his dps? i just got there, my cc is still terrible (no fury relic)

[teal lynx]

I just saw my SB Droprate talent wasn't maxed. 80 Points weren't invested... for months now....
My Dr increased by 0.40x (on my non maxed sb farming plunders)

[lavish cloak]

slug tier season 2 gonna be autorefinery 100%

[tall notch]

11.5b dmg, 211 tent

[kindred dagger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTwHA01izqS966YzHnVLf6T2VSR-6CHlMwAOiZNzVXnM93UE8zcXVaJIMiY64W8YgQz-IiqcHrwyfU7/pubhtml#

[rapid python]

sigh, im at 265m damage on crawlers (not worms, one behind)

[signal osprey]

5% eff, 4% afk, 2% afk. Might be worth comparing food effect instead of 2% afk for catching/fishing as they dont have a speed cap but the afk is better for me personally

[paper sail]

Same signs I use generically. If you really wanna minmax, sometimes the 1% afk is better than 5% eff on particular nodes but I can't be bothered to test every single time

[nimble palm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vROpoiWi9XQVNm6gy0hHjvD0RKQFcGFzUmX2f-1rsbv8OPQX583Er0AEZndX6JzxMhz6HG2dSOqa6GT/pubhtml

Check this one

It has snapshot star signs too

[worthy helm]

How many balls for a good chance of jackpot?

10k?

[broken plaza]

unknown

[paper sail]

I've played for 1.5 years and never had a jackpot

[broken plaza]

but 2-3k should do ya

[worthy helm]

Goin in with 1k

[broken plaza]

I've had two jackpots

[worthy helm]

Hoping to at least get a stamp or balljoe

Let's see

[broken plaza]

I still haven't got either of those

Sadge

[paper sail]

I've had 2 balljoe, no stamps

I'm willing to say I've launched at least 30k + balls so 2-3k for a jackpot is hilarious to me

[nimble palm]

100k for jackpot with my luck

Maybe 1m

[fallen torrent]

725m rat tail on 1000M lets go

i have 4 ballpicklejoe

no stamp

[paper sail]

I assume you're active farming the rats, not printing them?

[fallen torrent]

active farming yeah

printing penguin pen

i ahve my SB at penguin as well, and rest of my time doing rat tails same time

[paper sail]

I active farmed up through Penguins, printed above that. Idk if I'd do the same again.

[void belfry]

how would you guys prioritize 11-12-13-14

[paper sail]

You shouldn't ever really need 11 and 12 at the same time

[void belfry]

yeah either go left or right

[paper sail]

If you aren't reaching all the nodes, I'd say 1 point into 13 and 14, then max 11 with your Bubo at the end until you can reach all of the nodes. Then slowly take points out (or stop investing) and max 13. Max 14 last.

[tacit tulip]

man this is getting expensive, no idea how some people had the patience for 30k

[worthy helm]

1k balls later

No stamp no ballpickle

[formal swift]

Exploiters mostly probably

[worthy helm]

Got a ball to go 1 off from jackpot

That hurt

[tacit tulip]

nah it's certainly possible, I'd just rather be farming DK

[formal swift]

Some are legit but have been doing GT for long time since before the equinox bonus

[paper sail]

30k is pretty nutty. I tapped out at 20.4k

[tacit tulip]

I think I'll be stopping at 20, too

[void belfry]

alright thanks

[paper sail]

Just needed a change of scenery, honestly

[tacit tulip]

it has been really nice for my cap/rate tho

[paper sail]

Vroom vroom

Disconnecting lab node also helps a lot, if you haven't already

[tacit tulip]

I do that overnight

[paper sail]

If you're around to click GT constantly at least. Otherwise you overflow in like 5 minutes

[tacit tulip]

I've not even been using my guys in the cauldrons tho

[paper sail]

Same

[tacit tulip]

don't wanna give up my sigils

[paper sail]

Have been all 10 on sigils for many months now

[tacit tulip]

think I'm gonna beat lava to w6 😄

[fallen torrent]

im doing vip parchement

[paper sail]

I probably will not beat Lava to w6. That's 2/4/4 assigned from lowest to highest.

[signal osprey]

Probably

[fallen torrent]

damn the clove and the liquid one

need to get em asap

[paper sail]

Since you're here, opinion time How do you prioritize Utility bubbles? I feel like Larry to 501 probably ought to be the first big recommendation, but after that?

[fallen torrent]

im 3 sigil away tho

[paper sail]

From my experience, most of these were kinda ignored until Atom range and then brrrr (Exclusions for the easy prints like Cranium, Larry)

[tacit tulip]

[fallen torrent]

9 days for vip parchement

[chrome tiger]

Invest in w6 VIP lounge

[signal osprey]

Honestly 90%+ CC is the only one thats a really big priority after larry. The others are kind of a luxury. If I had to choose something after those 2 it would probably be at least a couple hundred levels in bob just to have something and then startue exp because its cheap and effective

[fallen torrent]

if only there was a way to speed sigil up

[signal osprey]

The rest of them I would argue arent that big of a deal until after you get some work in sampling bubbles

[weak vector]

i mean...

[fallen torrent]

is there anything that speed up it? like anything alchemy related? like my bubo would sigil faster? or no

[weak vector]

there's stuff in the gem shop

[fallen torrent]

pretty sure not but..

i think i bought all of em. xD

[untold saffron]

is the 20% effi chip not better than doubling the idle skillers 15%? or am i misunderstanding something

[signal osprey]

Trophy is its own multi

[fallen torrent]

i did

[weak vector]

you get no bonus from the efficiency chips unless you reach another tier

[tacit tulip]

1. Sailing artifact
2. Achievement (world 2, vials?)
3. Sigil upgrade
4. Equinox vial
5. Vial mastery (to buff the vial)

[signal osprey]

The trophy gives efficiency too so thats not really a relevant point lol

[steady beacon]

still trying to figure out how to push bar production. By my count, my SBs produce 20k copper bars per slot per 2m afk interval. That means 320k bars x 2 SB and 1 BM, for a little under 1m copper bars every 2 minutes. Assuming I was crazy enough to alternate between the 3 every 2 minutes, I'd make 30m copper bars in an hour. Which is still INSANE, because to hit 1b vials, I'd need to do it for 34 HOURS.

[dawn moon]

does construction speed impact xp rate as well? I'm slowing grinding away at the level 300, and I'm not sure what all to focus on

[steady beacon]

so how did you get your 1b bars?

[signal osprey]

Also you will always gain multi tiers with skilling efficiency later on. Its literally impossible not to

[tacit tulip]

it works with candy

[fallen torrent]

160% sigil charge rate. i mean yeah i think i have all maxed

[steady beacon]

Ah, right. I keep forgetting that.

[void belfry]

it got me this far xd

[steady beacon]

so just spam a ton of candy in a row, and you'll max out those forge claims>?

[fallen torrent]

9 days 16hr for 5k sigil xp

[tacit tulip]

yepyep

[fallen torrent]

1hr candies is the best

or some like to do 2minute claim on SB

[tacit tulip]

I just dumped everything in gmush for the money gains

[steady beacon]

hold on

that's STILL insane.

at 20,000 bars (because that seems to be my cap), we're still looking at 50,000 hours of candy.

[spice meadow]

Ouch

[fallen torrent]

2min claim is actually the best gain in term of utility but it drives me insane thinking of it

[steady beacon]

What am I missing

[tacit tulip]

you get 20k per slot lol

[void belfry]

yeah... how do i boost lab exp gains

[fallen torrent]

increase those capacity

you shouldnt go for 1B copper bar if your limit is 20k copper bar

[steady beacon]

I can't. There's only the forge bonuses and the achievement.

How else can i increase it?

[fallen torrent]

i havent increase anything in forge for a long time i forgot how to

[spice meadow]

Cooking, basically

[fallen torrent]

i know i can have 40mil and more or something like that

[hybrid spindle]

5000*

[tacit tulip]

the only other capacity boost is from arcade rotations

[void belfry]

how does cooking boost lab

[nimble palm]

Arcade, but it’s off rotation

[fallen torrent]

you eman 20k copper bar limit, or what you can put in your forge slots? (ore)

[spice meadow]

Lab exp and reach

[steady beacon]

how much of a bonus does it give?

[void belfry]

which food

[fallen torrent]

cause i think i can only put 18k but with world 3 Arm construction i have no issue with it?

[steady beacon]

I mean that when I afk on my SB, I don't get more than 20k copper bars per slot.

[hybrid spindle]

but you also forgot double bar chance, so it should be around 1700h for 1b copper bars

[tacit tulip]

it's significant

[unreal fox]

nice chip

[steady beacon]

is my math that off? 😄

[tacit tulip]

it's easier to do a few claims and see how many bars you get each claim

rather than trying to maths it

[hybrid spindle]

I did the math yesterday and got to 1400h of candy with a cap of 25k

[nimble palm]

Been waiting for that chip for awhile now

[steady beacon]

which barrels are you using?

[fallen torrent]

it doesnt seem like i have a cap on my copper bar making tho

[tacit tulip]

you don't barrel copper

[hybrid spindle]

I made a mistake as well before and got to 2800 but I forgot the 50% double bar chance from the permium forge

[fallen torrent]

i was barreling em oopsie.

[paper sail]

Copper absolutely demolishes oils, yeah

[tacit tulip]

if you DO barrel copper you'll very quickly run out

[fallen torrent]

i guess i'l lsave em xD

[steady beacon]

ok, but what barrels for the other materials?

[fallen torrent]

W5 one are great

[paper sail]

W5 oils the rest of the way

[nimble palm]

W5 ones

[hybrid spindle]

none. you can't afford it. If you accidentally have some in, you'll run out in no time

[nimble palm]

I use them for plat and up

[unreal fox]

mee too i have been waiting for it for about 2 months

[hybrid spindle]

I speak from experience....dozens of days buying barrels gone with a few claims :/

[fallen torrent]

iron bar is the next one on the way

[paper sail]

yeah, depends on your stash. I keep my gstack maintained

[nimble palm]

Hope w6 fixes forge

Not gonna attempt 1b bars atm

[hybrid spindle]

you know what....you could be generous and gift me half of that, so I can regain my greenstack 👀

[fallen torrent]

damn i need to save em same here

[fathom lagoon]

Oh shit card doubler chip is here?!

[fallen torrent]

i took it. but thats not the one i wanted

[hybrid spindle]

Fix is a strong word....a bigger forge cap might be reasonable but I doubt the change will be so significant that you don't need to do it with candy or 2min claims anymore.

[fallen torrent]

i have 3 of those doubler. i want the thick one

[hybrid spindle]

yes, I finally got my second! I'm tempted to resample...but I'm not ready to suffer through another 4 hours of this hell when I just did it a few days ago 😦