lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[true flint]

But my ES is better for some reason, not sure why

[next locust]

What enemy are you farming?

[true flint]

So it feels like I am missing something to make my DK really good

[azure spindle]

could be a combination of things, particularly what statues you're farming and on what map

[true flint]

Currently working w4, doing tellies for batteries - I know it isn't the best map for Dk but even at beans es was better

[azure spindle]

clammies is best map for w4 statues, do you have choco chip?

[next locust]

Orb duration was the big one for me (after getting everything crystal related of course).
DK before choco chip was also not that good. If you don't have choco ES is not that far behind

[azure spindle]

and do you have card doublers?

[true flint]

No, but all chips I had on es I have moved to dk

[azure spindle]

does that include chocolate chip?

[arctic kraken]

AY just got the Molten knucklers!

[true flint]

I think mine is 220 but can boost to 245 now

[arctic kraken]

[storm kelp]

anyone have advice for mining minigame?

[true flint]

Yes to choc chip

[azure spindle]

if I had to guess then it's probably a combination of your map selection, drop rate, and crystal spawn chance

[storm kelp]

got mine a few days ago as well. Felt nice after almost 400 mil kills

[arctic kraken]

lemme check my DN lmao

[azure spindle]

if you're not one shotting mobs with shockwave as well that might be another issue

[arctic kraken]

712 mil until i got it

[next locust]

This, and might be also something different in their setups, like dr obols on es but not dk etc

[azure spindle]

yeah that's why I just said drop rate in general, cause the orb is more than high enough to get good results

[next locust]

Yeah my bad misread that

[arctic kraken]

I just Idled like 7 chars for it

[steady beacon]

man, just unlocked ruby cards in rift, and I am devastated to see how many cards are needed to reach them.

[low pecan]

Hey guys I'm feeling kinda stuck right now. anyone mind taking a quick minute go over my idleon efficiency profile and give me some advice on things I should focus on?

https://mechworrior.idleonefficiency.com

[steady beacon]

I basically rubied only the crystal cards, and like 3 other base mobs.

everything else needs 4k minimum

[sinful aurora]

It goes faster than you think tbh.

[thorn marsh]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

Scoli made a pretty cool tool

[steady beacon]

hope so!

[low pecan]

woo, didn't know this was a thing. Thank you!

[steady beacon]

i guess, focus on DR cards first, then skilling, then damage?

[fleet sail]

Does the orange colour numbers means anything, like they are not actualy that lvl etc?

[sinful aurora]

Get all 3 card drops cards first imo. Then poop for crystal odds.
You'll get ruby cards naturally on your way to eclipse skulls.
Vman can work on most skilling cards.

[thorn marsh]

it's in the works, but you can get the gist of it 🙂
looks like you just gotta get all stamps + lvl them, get your anvil sorted and then focus alot more on alch

[vocal ibex]

For statues catching bugs world 1 is better to afk or active?

[low pecan]

looks like it! any advice for W4 W5?

[sinful aurora]

Uh catching is not in w1 my dude.

[vocal ibex]

W2 man

It's almost 1 am here

[sinful aurora]

Just send someone fishing. You'll get it in no time.

[thorn marsh]

looks like you got everything covered there tbh - just get some artifacts
I'd suggest you go full on active bubo for at least the next week

lvl 80 grind time is not okay

[vocal ibex]

I need the fish statues dude

[thorn marsh]

shame!

[vocal ibex]

From catching dude

[fleet sail]

That would be interesting to try, I am getting an error: "Unable to retrieve data for this character name. Please check your spelling and make sure you have uploaded your account publicly. "

I have googled how to upload my account publicly but did not get any straight away answer, could anyone share how to do that please?

[thorn marsh]

idleonefficiency.com upper right corner "public profile"

[low pecan]

grind time?!

i am currently tryingto get that 1 mil skull flag achievement I would otherwise be doing bubo

[thorn marsh]

Scolis bitcoinminer cough I mean tool pulls data from IE

[sinful aurora]

That was most unclear. Well the fishing statue is from catching. As with all skills, you CANNOT get statues or cards unless afk.

[fleet sail]

amazing, thank you!

[vocal ibex]

Ahh good to know

Thanks dude

[low pecan]

aaa

[thorn marsh]

and mine's low (:

[low pecan]

damn bro... damn...

[lilac path]

is there a chart/graph of all drop rate obols and their max stats?

[low pecan]

alright that makes sense

[true obsidian]

its just me or Bubo really suck at Crawler map?

[thorn marsh]

@low pecan just active bubo with CC skills maxed and spam that upgrade button while CC is active

[hollow osprey]

how long did u need for that

[thorn marsh]

also, make sure to lvl your laaaarryyy

I get like 150 lvls /h

[azure spindle]

don't know if there's a chart but you can just check wiki for them, circles you want pops, square hexagon and sparkle you want dice. Their max dr is just 1% higher than base values

[hollow osprey]

oh nice

[thorn marsh]

diminishing ofc since the cost increases

[hollow osprey]

well i have to level my bubo, he sucks rn because of missing talent points

[thorn marsh]

tenta 200+ and you're good to go

the rest is just about efficiency, but the amount of exp you get is insane

[lilac path]

thanx also wanna ask if there is a graph of how much do i need per tier of obol reroll and combine

[hollow osprey]

efficiency?

[thorn marsh]

kills/h

[hollow osprey]

well have to use some lib books

[hollow osprey]

oh well

my cooking roadkill isn't very high aswell

just 113

[thorn marsh]

all I'm saying is tenta 200+ is a MUST for the 3sec proc, but the rest is just damage

[low pecan]

which CC are your referring to?

[hollow osprey]

gonna keep that in mind ty

[lilac path]

shaman cranium cooking

[hollow osprey]

well i can't go above 200 rn because i have no fury relic

[thorn marsh]

max these

[low pecan]

yeah okay. what i thought it was thank you

[thorn marsh]

and you're good to go

[low pecan]

also whats larry?

[thorn marsh]

helps with upgrading bubbles 🙂

[low pecan]

ahhh yeah i just need to upgrade a lot of the bubbles

[thorn marsh]

focusing on larry will literally half the cost of all bubbles when at 100%

[low pecan]

Thank you very much

[thorn marsh]

np dude

[azure spindle]

Don't think there's a graph or anything at least that I know of but odds and costs should be on wiki. Getting a full set will take quite a few shards but once you hit w2 to grind dice obols you'll get them much easier since silver obols are more common and there's even gold luck obols you can smash. Also remember to reroll at the lowest levels you can since it's much cheaper to do than trying to reroll for 1% dr on a sparkle. So for context reroll pops at bronze and dice obols at silver.

[lilac path]

didnt thought of breaking silver when on w2, thanks thats gonna boost farming

[storm kelp]

I don't have enogh printing or atoms to continue on my larry really, unless I use the discounts on that a couple times per day I suppose. But my GT is sooo low

[hollow osprey]

damn

[slender sandal]

501 is your first major goal for alch (guaranteed 100%)

[azure spindle]

honestly what I ended up doing was just filtering out all silver and bronze obols I didn't need and just farmed gold luck obols for shards

[thorn marsh]

I'd use the discounts for sure - it's arguably the most important to get to 100%

[storm kelp]

501 larry is 100%?

[slender sandal]

yep

[storm kelp]

aight I will focus then

[slender sandal]

and above that you can get chance for +3 but the diminishing returns are pretty extreme

something like level 9900 larry is only 119%

[ornate zinc]

Can someone explain what this means?

[lilac path]

island loot

[low pecan]

sailing till you get the island that gets your lightning then get 20k of that

[ornate zinc]

Which island is that if anyone knows?

[azure spindle]

like 3rd or 4th I believe

[lilac path]

no. 5

[thorn marsh]

https://idleon.guide/sailing/

[lilac path]

stormy north

[thorn marsh]

this is actually a pretty good reference for sailing

[ornate zinc]

Im on island 4. With 3 h per boat to go there
So i think ill wait with that quest for a while

[thorn marsh]

one thing I've learned (way too late) is to utilize the 2h'ish traveltime

I sent everyone to 1 island to unlock it and some of them had like 3 weeks traveltime :p

[azure spindle]

yeah, typically a lot of the unlocking is done by boat 1 by itself

[ornate zinc]

Figured

I thought 3 hours would be fine as i have all other artifacts

[trim dew]

where is blobby G? I dont see him on the docks

[ornate zinc]

On all other islands

[thorn marsh]

3h is completely fine

[azure spindle]

I mean it's also 100% up to you and how you feel on it

like might not be as optimal but maybe that extra push is worth the longer boats

[vapid mural]

what is this tool
i use idleonefficiency but the gaming part is just that

[thorn marsh]

toolbox

https://idleontoolbox.com

[sinful aurora]

Yeah sadly as much as i prefer ie, it tells you nithing for gaming, only toolbox helps with this skill.

[azure spindle]

yeah ie stopped being updated after companionocalypse

[daring ravine]

a crime

in no world is crystal steak as good as an opera mask

[thorn marsh]

yeah, that's pretty off

steak is S+

[true flint]

It's definitely not a problem with damage, and all obols, cards, chips, card set I moved from ES to DK (or matched - obvs don't move cards). I'll boost the orb to 245 later and hopefully that will assist, nearly there now - just w4 and 5 to go, and 2k defence statues

[patent hatch]

I GOT CHEM

[true flint]

Thanks both, appreciated

[patent hatch]

AFTER 11 MONTHS

I FINALLY GOT IT THANK GOD

[thorn marsh]

gz zamn!

I told you!

[patent hatch]

this is a poggers moment

[true flint]

Now start saving up 15 of them xD

[patent hatch]

This is how long it took

unreal lol

[thorn marsh]

now watch gaming being exciting for like 2 days at least and it's back to the old

[patent hatch]

I just wanted it for equinox lol

[true flint]

How many plants do you fit in your garden?

[daring ravine]

what damage i should have to get to rift 26/31

debating whether going for unlocks again and wanted to see if im ready first

[daring ravine]

14 base
6 from gemshop
20 total

[true flint]

I'd save 10 maybe, and then just do the other 10 spaces using the gaming as intended until you have the dream available

[vapid mural]

why ?

[true flint]

I'm on 15 at the moment and need the dream, but just go into gaming for the nuggs and nuts

[thorn marsh]

I too got into gaming for the nuts

[true flint]

Annoyingly I got a lucky lad on my vman the week before equinox came out. He was catching fruitflies. He was not on DR build. I am still annoyed

[steady beacon]

Do you need to have 15 chemicals in the garden when the dream is active? Or is it a completion check, and if you have 15 chemicals now, but don't have the dream yet, it'll complete when you get it?

[thorn marsh]

that still counts

[true flint]

... What?

[thorn marsh]

THAT STILL COUNTS

📣 T H A T S T I L L C O U N T S

[true flint]

Doesn't seem to? Do I need to go there with my vman?

[thorn marsh]

that's weird - I completed mine instantly when it unlocked

[storm kelp]

Let's go Laaaaaaarrrrryyyyyyyy

[true flint]

Annoying, maybe I'll message lava and see what's up

[thorn marsh]

send him a snail mail

[steady beacon]

you need 75 lucky lads anyways, just keep going

[thorn marsh]

75 lucky lads on vman is the meta

[true flint]

I even used cosmic on dreadlo yesterday with Dr build. One did 9 days. Still no lad

[storm kelp]

I am halfway to 75 lucky lads. it gets easy when you use DK and go for statues

[steady beacon]

i'm just below halfway as well

[true flint]

Yeah farming lads isn't an issue, hitting them on vman is

[storm kelp]

but just use candies on vman until you get it. It is not worth the pain to wait

I got 3 on vman when I went for 20k fishingman statues

just candied tropilogs

[true flint]

I candied at dreadlo and still no luck

[storm kelp]

tropilog better

[true flint]

Including the 9 days of cosmic

[storm kelp]

less xp but better odds

[true flint]

I'll give it a whack

Pun not intended

[storm kelp]

I think I used 300 hours and got 3 just so you have a reference

[true flint]

What percent dr

[storm kelp]

on like maybe 12DR at the time

[true flint]

OK, think I'm around 10 so should be OK with 150 hours of candy?

[storm kelp]

probably but never 100%

[daring ravine]

unfortunately lava doesnt accept mail from snails below level 26

[storm kelp]

and my data is not enough to get some full average either

[thorn marsh]

you're below 26? euw

[true flint]

I mean, I have more candy, but just thinking about it

[storm kelp]

to me it was worth it because I have no patience when I stare at my candy pile

[true flint]

I'll let vman get to equinox first, he is still holding the lad he earned so hopefully that'll trigger it, if not, to logs he goes

[storm kelp]

you already got one on him? Yeah I dunno if it counts if you haven't unlocked it yet. not sure

[true flint]

Tjofoed apparently had it work automatically, but didn't for me

So not sure if I need him to go there for it to compute, or maybe I got it slightly too early

[storm kelp]

forgot the pearls!

[thorn marsh]

I got it waaaaay back on my vman

[tight saddle]

Is she worth it?

[thorn marsh]

but as soon as it unlocked it said 1/1

[true flint]

For Chem dream, but nothing else

[thorn marsh]

if you're active it's 4x faster for 3x less

[storm kelp]

and unlocking higher tiers for higher multiplier in logbook

[thorn marsh]

4 good 3 bad

= +1 good

[storm kelp]

1 good is that good? or is that -5 bad?

[tight saddle]

What about the upgrades?

[thorn marsh]

1/4 - 3 * 57 good to be exact

[tight saddle]

Getting +200% speed seems to be relatively easy

[thorn marsh]

give or take

[storm kelp]

I thought so

[vapid mural]

why is No more artifacts!

[steady beacon]

i've just done the math, and maxing the crafting vials will take forever.

I can produce 0.5m thread per hour at triple output, which means I'm looking at 80 days just to max the first crafting vial if i do nothing else.

doesn't seem worth it.

[fast grail]

That seems like a hammer hammer bubble issue

[steady beacon]

probably.

[graceful tinsel]

just level hammer hammer, and candy also effects it

[steady beacon]

I'm calculating which vials I need to finish to 100% my double statue rate.

[pastel bramble]

this is f'd up

[true flint]

Presuming your capacity is also decent and you have all anvil points

[pastel bramble]

mobs with 0 health still alive and walking to my totem

[storm kelp]

Took me a few weeks to go from 2 vials to 32. Ladles only at 38k though xD

[steady beacon]

i have 20 maxed vials, and can get the next 5 reasonable soon, if i keep most of my guys on harriep. I was hoping thread would be an achievable one, but it's clearly not an option for me right now.

[fallen torrent]

Morning everyone!

[steady beacon]

i'm still late game at best, so it's taking me a lot longer, haha

[storm kelp]

thread is impossible for me too. monster mats through vman runs and just better skills

[fast grail]

It really should be, thread is one of the easiest. What does your anvil point distribution like?

[steady beacon]

all points bought, most characters at anvil level 70-100

[fallen torrent]

Thread is just annoying to do

[steady beacon]

anvil bubble is very low though

[fallen torrent]

gmush 1hr candy thread+copper bar

[steady beacon]

hammer hammer is only 130.

[fast grail]

Yeah, that is your issue

its free to level, just iron ore

[steady beacon]

i might give that a shot!

[rough crest]

will leveling the evolution chance increase my odds of getting the chemical plant?

[true flint]

I am pushing mine currently, it's iron ore so v cheap, would push that first, I'm on 230 and aiming for 500 before I go for threads/nails vials

[steady beacon]

true. but I have so many other priorities to focus on at the moment, like call me bob

[true flint]

My call me Bob is weak, but got nearly 6k exp from cogs so levelling still going well enough

[steady beacon]

I'll work on the remaining monster mats first, and see how far i get.

[true flint]

I need to reprint samples, can then push for atom and using that for call me Bob

Have been hoping for doot before I resample, just so I don't need to faff with God's, but that was a foolish plan xD

[fast grail]

hammer hammer is all the production speed. If your hammer hammer is only at 130, you probably shouldnt quite be at the point of focusing bob yet

[rough crest]

how is it so high!? geez

im only at 82

[true flint]

I presume he has 1b iron prints so it's an hourly clicker

Either that or he got nblb 10 years ago 😂

[rough crest]

geez, wish i had found this game earlier to have more investments xD

[fallen torrent]

I just did thread vial, almost done with copper bar as well

working on nail one 😦

[pastel bramble]

atom upgrades daily exist too 😄

u can get easy +100 for a bubble daily

any bubble

except the ones that use bits

[rough crest]

which atom is that? im only up to the 3rd currently

[uncut hull]

boron

[storm kelp]

I know it is not a lot but I am happy with this

[pastel bramble]

works like this, u get a daily amount based on level of atom

[rough crest]

ah i see now, then should i give up on trying for null salts and focus on atoms?

[pastel bramble]

no

u need 100m resource in bubble first before u can atom it

[true flint]

Salts are definitely needed

[lyric sequoia]

I thought there was no point in pushing bubble 2 passed around 550 🤔

[pastel bramble]

like so

[true flint]

And one day, your redox salt will be a daily or hourly refine as well

[pastel bramble]

atom unlock doesnt appear until u have 100m

[lyric sequoia]

Salt and atoms aren’t a mutually exclusive thing

[rough crest]

just torn since trying to level my vman now in W5 but still using those green knuckle sabers

[true flint]

How many slots do you have in printer (per person, not how many people)

[graceful tinsel]

god dam why have you leveled that bubble so much

[rough crest]

already beaten kruk a few times on my DK

and one moment

[true flint]

Spaces in printer is an important upgrade

[patent hatch]

how many times can a plant evolve?

[lyric sequoia]

7

[patent hatch]

is the base 5 and then you get the two extra from superbits?

[lyric sequoia]

Base 4

[pastel bramble]

7 total, but realistically 5-6 is the max ull get

[true flint]

Maybe use gems for a couple more, and make sure all are filled

[rough crest]

yeah, im trying and saving gems now for printer space and then fenceyard since i unlocked shinies

[patent hatch]

oh right yeah i see you get +3 from the superbits

[pastel bramble]

thats the superbit upgrades

[patent hatch]

yeah right, so getting the plus 7 is heavily against us odds wise

[slender sandal]

now that's a gaming chair

[low pecan]

damn....

[true flint]

Good plan, gems are relatively easy to come by - farm w4/w5 boss keys for easy gems

[slender sandal]

and yeah 7s are a pipedream, i lucked into a 6 chem right after unlocking chem but i'm missing most of the other 6s still and it's been months

[lyric sequoia]

There’s a spreadsheet somewhere that will tell you how long it’ll take on average with your stats to hit t7. Suffice to say no one is going for it

[patent hatch]

Yeah fair enough

[rough crest]

777 bits i got finally, but the hard one is the treasure i am finding since it stays there for awhile before the refresh

[pastel bramble]

good way to get that one is to stockpile a bunch of resources of diff types, then when cycle changes check sell price, then sell 1, open gemshop/check price, if not 777, cloudsave/check price, if not 777, sell 1 again and repeat

because cloudsave/gemshop menus gives u a diff % of stockpile to be sold

[steady beacon]

237/300 construction skill and 133/140 on shrines. so close, and yet so far.

[storm kelp]

after months of not caring and just waiting, this worked on my first try

[steady beacon]

bobjoepickle is 2 months away, 100k ladles is months away as well, and lvl 500 is impossible.

gonna be a while!

[patent hatch]

looks like the gardening skill will be one of the new w6 ones

[rough crest]

has anyone reached alch 120 and does it unlock a new water?

[fallen torrent]

lv 500 is possible, just get the grind time up a bunch 😛

[patent hatch]

yeah it does

[steady beacon]

it does. someone reached it yesterday

[steady beacon]

for endgamers maybe!

[pastel bramble]

i unlocked yesterday lol u unlock the upgrades menu but not the liquid cauldron

[graceful tinsel]

level 500 isnt hard for dks and bubos

[rough crest]

that is insane, geez
hope we get new stuff in the shop there eventually

[steady beacon]

good luck getting vman to 500 though

or hunter

[teal lynx]

Does not give anything. You can only upgrade the Pay2Win tab

[pastel bramble]

white pearls, LOTS of white pearls 😄

[graceful tinsel]

people have done it, just need a good grindtime

[rough crest]

trust me, i am feeling the pain with how weak he is

[steady beacon]

i'm leveling mine on crystal island

[rough crest]

my DK is far stronger than him T_T

[steady beacon]

I can get 1-3 levels per day there.

[slender sandal]

pump that grind time bubble and then go whack w5 crystals and ou go up quickly

[storm kelp]

lvl 500 will be so easy when world 6 drops... It is faster than doing the work if you are not already close

[lyric sequoia]

You can hit 500 without remotely being near endgame. Bubo farm and push GT

[graceful tinsel]

yeep

[slender sandal]

and yeah honestly for crap like hunter/bb/vman if you're not already close should just wait and focus on other things (while still leveling grindtime)

[rough crest]

trying, my grind time is level 52 and trying to level when i can

[lyric sequoia]

Plus w6 being a few months out monster exp is going to go insane once again

[rough crest]

so just use my DK for now and go back to vman later?

[storm kelp]

smarter to work on other things imo than lvl unless you really don' thave anything else to do

[slender sandal]

if you active bubo you'll get a ton of gt levels a day

[rough crest]

can bubo still be good with a 2sec tenta?
i am off by 3 levels before it hits 3 secs

[lyric sequoia]

5000 family was an endgame aspiration when w4 was the last world, w5 made that an early late game goal (at worst). Going by trakck record w6 is gonna make is moderately doable with like 1k GT max

[mellow shadow]

33M gold nugget wtf

[daring ravine]

i think by w7 lava will probably have to add an extra 9 to everything (that was currently not meant to be obtained)

[lyric sequoia]

I also can’t wait for the w6 trees to make getting 200 chopping easy

[steady beacon]

got the AGI stat shimmer trial, which means I can realistically get around 10 points this week.

[pastel bramble]

[steady beacon]

Which challenges do you think are the easiest?

[daring ravine]

guild gp

[graceful tinsel]

im pretty sure 5k family was impossible in w4

[mellow shadow]

how are you getting these big increases?

[patent hatch]

Yeah I saw the first 5k fmaily like 6 months ago in achievment pics

never in w4

[pastel bramble]

he prob didnt sample in a while 😄

[steady beacon]

never gotten that one before!

[mellow shadow]

I think he did

[storm kelp]

waiting a few weeks mostly. Also got the eldrich artifact for w1-w3 skills recently and had not resampled

[lyric sequoia]

It was challenging but probably doable with 100k ish GT, but was so pointless that it wasn’t pushed

[slender sandal]

yep and when you hit the point that you start really focusing on sampling there's a ton of low hanging fruit people miss so cleaning that up is big for gains

[mellow shadow]

ah okay

How do I get musical notes for Power Thirthree?

[storm kelp]

but lvls of skills in general as well. I wish my books could get filled up 100000000% faster

[pastel bramble]

sailing

[rough crest]

im so close to the eldritch, but got stumped on the floor 28 boss

mega monster, self heals, kill 4 times

need 2 more kills on him

[graceful tinsel]

if it was doable it would of been done, endgamers like doing things even if its pointless, im 99% sure it was impossible

[pastel bramble]

its a island resource

[lyric sequoia]

No one had remotely close to 6 figure GT back then, so of course no one did it. This was before 3s tent too so bubo farming was far slower

[graceful tinsel]

exactly so it was impossible, if no one had the GT to get it back then then its impossible.

[mellow shadow]

Guess I'm not there yet... sailing progress is slow for me

[lyric sequoia]

Getting 20 checkouts to be below 24h isn’t that big an undertaking tbh

[lyric sequoia]

Impossible means it could not be done, which just straight up isn’t true

[patent hatch]

well then you can do it w1 only

same logic

[pastel bramble]

i think its 2nd from last island

[slender sandal]

also floms only gave 30k exp each (multiply for crystals) and wurms give 1.25m exp (multiply for crystals), w5 is so much faster

[patent hatch]

the fact is no one would of and could of done it in w4 so its fair to say impossible

[slender sandal]

w6 scaling could be super dumb

[graceful tinsel]

if we were in w4 for like 3 years then maybe it would of been possible, but that didnt happen so it was impossible wasnt it

[pastel bramble]

the word you're looking for is improbable

cephyric is right nothing is impossible given enough time

its just improbable

[storm kelp]

11 hours for me, I want it to be 10 minutes so I can do more than 2 per day

[lyric sequoia]

No, that’s not what impossible means

[mellow shadow]

Why is the family bonus sometimes red with (!) ?

[pastel bramble]

i think it means u have another char with a higher bonus, but not sure

[graceful tinsel]

bruh, it wasn't possible to get 5k family in the timeframe between w4-w5 so yes as far as im concerned its impossible, if you want to make a new account thats only in world 4 and try to get 5k family be my guest, but you probably wont be able to 😂

[patent hatch]

well it may not be impossible, but improbable is not correct either. it has nothing really to do with probability because it isn't luck

more like unrealistic if anything

improbable would be getting all artifacts on the first click of trying it

[pastel bramble]

well.. now we're all just being silly

if you really want to be pedantic, its impracticable 😄

[graceful tinsel]

i mean getting 5k family in w4 is silly thats the whole point

[drifting osprey]

I remember there was a sheet or image or something showing the best way to farm each statue but I can't find it anymore, does someone have it?

[graceful tinsel]

its in w3-w4 pins

[drifting osprey]

Thanks!

[storm kelp]

not sure why I haven't done this in a while. my lower lvl character got even higher sample 🙂 (cause higher efficiency skill)

[graceful tinsel]

nice

[trim dew]

i million sample is insane

my cloud wants me to get it but im nowhere close

[storm kelp]

my cloud took my lunch money

[pastel bramble]

i just noticed this box is cheaper than the last superbit.. i kinda wanna buy a empty box

[trim dew]

😮 WHAT A JERK

[soft chasm]

I think I'm at half a million? Don't see me getting to 1 mil anytime soon

Ag, right time to do this...

How do you set up Active Bubbo optimally?

[pastel bramble]

respawn pool poison

first 3 spells

for the rest i normally put ghost/skull followed by all the non-target specific ones

[slender sandal]

raise/cc/aura/fart nothing else

[proud pumice]

i put CC before respawn

[slender sandal]

gloves if you can do it instead of staff

[graceful tinsel]

i use these on flat/small maps, so like wurms and oj bay for example, and then bigger maps you add the other poison skill

[pastel bramble]

thats the one i use ^

but i uput poison before ghost

poison helps alot

[proud pumice]

depending on the map ghost spreads enough poison

so you don't need the poison itself

[teal lynx]

Poison (Chemical Warfare?) is not recommended on most maps. Poison is spread via ghosts and takes away raise dead casts -> Less Kills overall

[graceful tinsel]

yea i only use poison on the bigger maps, i find ghost and aura is plently on wurms and ojbay

[soft chasm]

Wow, that's even less skills then I'd of guessed. glad I asked o.o

[proud pumice]

tenteyecle makes it so these skills are always off cd

[teal lynx]

Optimal Bubo is basically. 3s tent, high crystal chance + choco chip, gloves so you go into melee range and spread your aura everywhere
Raise dead casts -> Aura kills everything -> Raise dead casts

More Skills would just delay your raise dead casts

[soft chasm]

My poor bubbos been completely neglected, gonna try and get them in action before choco comes into rotation

[rough crest]

Choco chip i heard returns in December but idk how accurate that is

[teal lynx]

100% accurate

[rough crest]

Also, cute pfp jay

[tacit tulip]

it's something like the 27th

[rough crest]

Sweet
I'll try and get the resources for it then

[soft chasm]

It's literraly priority 1 for me. I've got the resources stockpiled already though XD

[rough crest]

Mmm gears....
Might have switch to those soon then

[soft chasm]

I'd of hated to of hit that week without the gears stockpiled.

[slender sandal]

do it asap and then candy on an archer if you have to

[peak bison]

Gears : Done
Spice: Done
Cheese: NOT even unlocked yet

[teal lynx]

You got 6 weeks. You got this

[slender sandal]

i think there's another one a few weeks after this but now that you know what you need, there's your goal

[soft chasm]

Cheese isn't too bad.

I hard walled at the Turndra Spice though. I've missed out on several good things as a result >.<

[rough crest]

Same.
Just barely got past frosty peaks

[teal lynx]

February, 28 after that. 2 Month gap ain't too bad

[rough crest]

One for bubo and one for DK

[nimble palm]

It only works active, so you just need 1

[teal lynx]

Yeah, but swapping chips suck :P
Already got 2 and I still hate needing to swap it around when I farm plunders

[rough crest]

I figured, but better then having to swap one choco between the two

[nimble palm]

That true. But you might be missing out on an afk chip or something as a result.

Doot 2 to make all chips active when?

[rough crest]

Most of my fam is lab 75 now so i have the room

And i have only trash chips for now like def or move spd right now

[nimble palm]

Can finally get second second card doubler tomorrow

Rng hasn’t been kind to me

[rough crest]

Leaving my pc on with screen off for my 1 mil on dk orbs

Man, those 1 mils are rough

[nimble palm]

Plunderous 1m kills are too rough

[young blade]

Best place to farm chopping obols?

[teal lynx]

Daily Alchemy, no other place to farm them

[nimble palm]

Mining dreadlo?

Oh obols, nvm

[teal lynx]

level 900 was something like 90 or 95%

[nimble palm]

IT has the % benefit

[teal lynx]

Not actual value. But 90% max value

[ocean fox]

Does anybody know of any reason why construction exp would be glitched/ far lower than expected?

[nimble palm]

I would stop at 90% ish

[patent hatch]

I could never get IT to connect to my acocunt

very annoying :(

[rough crest]

What is IT

[nimble palm]

Unblock pop up’s

[patent hatch]

nah its nott hat, I legit dont know my accounts details at all

[tacit tulip]

currently working on getting all my boats to 60m speed (cause why not) and finally have my second red boat

[patent hatch]

when i got it on steam and logged in I just used some random contact details

and it auto signs in for the past two years

so I have no way of knowing what it is

[teal lynx]

Your active dk gets lower value compared to your afk dk. Not sure why tho

[teal lynx]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[ocean fox]

Ah, thats not my issue actually

My issue is just not getting any exp at all after long afk times

Idk if the display on exp is glitched or something

[teal lynx]

Hmmm I heard someone claiming they don't get xp. But never got actual prove of it

[patent hatch]

so yeah idk what my email or pw is lol

[ocean fox]

I have the "proof" actually

Lemme grab it

I've had this issue for a while, so these screenshots are from a while ago but Im still having the same issue

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11bfHurR1OkomZ4yMzQQxk2SaY4zd5zsT6CUSCBZ7O0g/edit?usp=sharing

Also I was playing active on my ES, since I know other warriors may buff the exp gain on the DK due to the passives

[teal lynx]

When active your characters still get xp -> So your IE probably already updated your XP value

[trim dew]

Has anyone actually zowed the skeleton guys at the end of the poop cave?

[teal lynx]

Zowed yes, chowed probably, super chowed don't think so

[drifting osprey]

Zow yes for sure

[trim dew]

@_@ thats insane

[ocean fox]

Hmmm, I thought you get all the levels at once, since there are times where I logged in and gotten a bunch of level ups and a bunch of stuff from level up gift. Also, from what I understand IE updates periodically every couple of minutes. I took those screenshots back to back

[trim dew]

i didnt even know there was a super chow

[ocean fox]

So i dont know how it would jump 160 million at that point

[pastel bramble]

100m kills needed

[ocean fox]

I could just run another experiment, this is anecdotal and I didnt bother screenshotting but the same thing just happened, my dk at 420(nice) construction last night and I just logged in and theyre at it still
Which I remember since its a memorable number

[teal lynx]

So as far as I know. They get xp for construction, but the actual level up only shows when logging into them, since you can't claim level ups on another character
As for the 160m XP I am not sure. Maybe lava needs to calculate some stuff in the background, then uses your dk value and u suddenly get a little xp?

[ocean fox]

But yeah heres my DK right now, heres the exp per hour(while on my ES) and I guess I'll update in 24 hours. Based on this I should be getting at least 5-6 levels

[ocean fox]

Hmmm that's possible, I'll actually test that now, heres the same DK on IE and I wont login and will check in an hour or so and see if the IE exp updates

[teal lynx]

I pray for you. Would suck if your cons is somehow bugged

[ocean fox]

I feel like it's been bugged... which sucks since it makes me not want to invest in Bob

[teal lynx]

Sorry for late response, but later on it's really not that bad. I get several hundreds of kills for one boop
So several thousand kills each day. So reaching 100k/1m kills is not that hard if you are consistent

[thorn marsh]

Construction shows the actual levels even though you haven't logged on though

I can see my DK's levels increase whilst on my bubo

[ocean fox]

on IE as well?

[thorn marsh]

oh, no clue about IE

I don't trust it anymore unfortunately

[teal lynx]

Oh, why not?

[thorn marsh]

it just seems outdated on many points

[teal lynx]

Okay yeah I get that. I use IT most of the time, but looking at IE for some stuff never hurt me

[thorn marsh]

just checked and IE is updated as well

as far as I can see at least

[ocean fox]

updated construction?

[thorn marsh]

oh shoot, forgot I logged on with my DK 2 hours ago... nevermind

forget everything after good morning

[ocean fox]

Haha, cause I just checked toolbox and it hasnt budged either even though the 8 minutes should have roughly given me some exp

[teal lynx]

My dk should rank up in around 2 1/2 hours. I can check then

[thorn marsh]

but IE/IT only pulls data when you switch char or cloud save

[ocean fox]

So I dont think efficiency or toolbox live update exp totals, but I'll keep waiting

??? wym? Doesn't it live update
I havent touched my characters and it just updated

[thorn marsh]

on some parameters it does

try pulling a boat off an island

I'm 98% convinced it only shows when you cloudsave / change char

[ocean fox]

I see

Well for construction exp it still didnt change
I just cloudsaved on my ES

[thorn marsh]

ah, aight

no clue then

[ocean fox]

Also while this isn't necessarily proof, even just seeing my original screenshots from a month ago in the document that would be roughly 30 days and I've only supossedly leveled up 3 times in one day on average. but based on my rates I should have been leveling up every couple of hours. And I almost did not invest in BOB at all so that wouldnt be the reason. Even now based on my rates at this higher construction level I would still level up once every 3.5-4 hours for a total of at least 6 a day

[sleek ermine]

Where did youcalculate your supposed xp gain

[ocean fox]

Just looked on my non warrior(ES) at my cog board, a month ago I was supossedly getting 800m exp per hour and my level up requirements were 1.13 billion so I should have been gaining several levels a day, I know it would slow down in the time period between then and today since I havent been investing in BOB, but even today I gain 1.2 billion per hour with the level up req being 3.8 billion so 3-4 hours per level up. So even if I was at my current day rate at 3-4 hours per level up and 6-8 level ups per day, I be getting a lot more than just 100 levels in this month I believe

I made sure to look on my non warriors since I know playing as dk can massively buff exp gain for the other dks, so I'm just using worst case scenario numbers even though I have played on DK for this month

[pastel bramble]

these goblin sh*ts need to die already 😄 atleast i made it to 180, dont think ill pass 190 at this speed

[desert night]

how good is poker chip? Should I switch a bunch of people over to pipe production to make sure I'm ready for it to come on rotation?

I've prepped the omega/chocolatey chips already

[storm kelp]

wooo got this nice lil pickle a few days ago and now this

[thorn marsh]

why only lvl 1?

[fallen torrent]

pokerchip should be taken if you can afford it^^

why only lv 1? xD that picklejoe is rare asfk

[storm kelp]

because i touch myself at night 😦

[fallen torrent]

you tought picklejoe the green one was annoyingf to get lv 2. imagine black one

[fallen torrent]

kinda unnecessary response tho

[granite grove]

but its totally relevant to idleon gameplay

[storm kelp]

family guy joke: "why did the dinosaurs die out?" response: "because you touch yourself at night"

[fallen torrent]

sure

[storm kelp]

I like referencing stuff...

[thorn marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-gif-18330012284198332961

[storm kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-hopeless-and-awkward-and-desperatefor-love!-friends-hindi-kulfy-gif-18145928832522189237

too soon?

[slender sandal]

i just want the arcade stamps, not the unusable vial D:

[fallen torrent]

want the stamp too haha

[storm kelp]

sooo u don't want a piece of this?

[fallen torrent]

i suprisingly have 4 black pickle joe

[loud flower]

At what level does CC bubble give +115%?

[fallen torrent]

wasnt it 1130? or 1310?

[granite grove]

arcade ball rate also caps pretty fast, limited to 1 ball per 30min

[storm kelp]

oh 😢

[slender sandal]

only if we could get that vial to 4 (or max) for bonuses

[hybrid spindle]

Everyone said how terrible leveling BB is but good god is it abysmal...

[pastel bramble]

i think better to level it afk rather than active haha

or use class swap tokens to level it then swap back 😄

[hybrid spindle]

I actually would but first of all I don't have 2 to spare and they're pretty scarce. Secondly, I'm too afraid that super chows get reset

[proven basin]

kill counts get reset?

[pastel bramble]

i dont think it affects deathnote

so it shouldnt reset it

[hybrid spindle]

I don't really have time for that. I need him at 425 for the divine scarf asap. So playing him actively for a few days should be enough. Otherwise I'd need weeks probably.

[proven basin]

first of all, you can't class swap bb

[pastel bramble]

if all u need is 425 just get white pearls from skull arena

u should be able to get decent amount

[hybrid spindle]

I need those to ultimately get him to 500 ^^

[pastel bramble]

elite class swap tokens? they are in store occasionally

[proven basin]

still a waste tho

[pastel bramble]

what else u gonna use them on

[hybrid spindle]

and considering that I need 50 levels....that's 500 pearls

[hybrid spindle]

when bb/bm are meta in w6, I can switch to them 🤷‍♂️

[pseudo blaze]

were those in halloween candy drop table?

[fervent yew]

yes, but not in great amounts

[pastel bramble]

gem shop limited menu

its whenever lava feels like putting them in

[hybrid spindle]

you could only get normal class swap tokens from halloween I think

[proven basin]

i meant buying one is a waste

[pastel bramble]

u can get gems for free

[fervent yew]

Oh i thought were talking about div pearls, still

[pastel bramble]

just by farming w4 boss a day or two ull get 2-3k gems lol

[proven basin]

doubt

[pastel bramble]

keep talking as if you know stuff...

[proven basin]

2-3 doubt

[pastel bramble]

maybe do some research 😄

or better yet take ur wizard to w4 and farm keys for a day or two 😄

[hybrid spindle]

true but I have started counting gem shop items in boss runs....and knowing shit will take me 1000 something runs isn't exactly putting me in high spirits

[hybrid spindle]

of all the bosses that's the one I wouldn't farm gems on

[proven basin]

well if you do that ig thats possible

[slender sandal]

just do w4 colo on dk and then go kill bosses, blue gems aren't really hard other than time

[pastel bramble]

its the one u can get unlimited keys from easily

w5 keys are slow

[hybrid spindle]

👀

[pastel bramble]

w4 keys are faster for me on stilt walkers

[hybrid spindle]

that's a lot less efficient than w3

[pastel bramble]

u cant get 1/2/3 keys easily

[hybrid spindle]

you can

[pastel bramble]

w4/w5 drop from standard mobs

[hybrid spindle]

you can infinitely farm colo tickets, hence keys > gems

[granite grove]

w3 keys from colo

[pastel bramble]

colo tickets are 3 per day

how u gonna farm infinite when ur locked at 3 per day?

[granite grove]

po6 box

[muted slate]

PO box

[hybrid spindle]

and that rate of colo tickets = keys is much better than wasting afk time on w4 keys

[granite grove]

reroll po6 box for colo tickets, refresh if no ticket

[pastel bramble]

so ur gonna sit and farm po box all day actively, instead of going to w4 stilt walkers to afk it much easier? 🤦‍♂️

[muted slate]

maybe do some research :D

[pastel bramble]

each to their own i guess, w4 much easier for me

[sharp pebble]

i hate clicking

[granite grove]

yeah but the net gem gain from po6 farming is just far better

[pastel bramble]

come back in a year when u develop rsi

[granite grove]

more active effort but easily the best method to get gems that is not direct purchasing

[hybrid spindle]

how about you look up what you actually do for it before dismissing it?

[pastel bramble]

saying each to their own isnt dismissing, its saying everyone has a preferred method

[sharp pebble]

how dare you not research and adopt my opinion

[hybrid spindle]

3 tickets = 200 keys (depends on DR of course) is something you'll never catch up to with afk farming keys.

"so ur gonna sit and farm po box all day actively" is dismissing it

and also entirely wrong

[pastel bramble]

its also time from my day i wont get back by actively playing, hence each to their own.

[pastel bramble]

thats a question

not a dismissal

either way im done talking, i already said each has their own preferred methods 😂

[sharp pebble]

rhetorical

[prisma drift]

W4 Colo is kinda mid for keys tho

I like using Colo tickets at w2

[scenic locust]

where's the best place to farm double sixes obols?

[hybrid spindle]

I was talking about w3. W4 has double the key cost and only rewards a fraction of the keys. Yes, w2 might be better key wise but the boss takes longer and I'm not lacking keys, so I go for w3 usually

[prisma drift]

Oh I farm w2 for candy and kebab

Not key grindin

[hybrid spindle]

fair point. could always use some more candy

[prisma drift]

And kebabs

[slender sandal]

kebabs

[pure spindle]

Just got snail, is it suggested to reach 100% chance per level, or something lower before trying?

[hybrid spindle]

only greenstacking or am I missing some other use they have?

[prisma drift]

Golden kebabs

The fat dmg gfood

I get like 75 per run

[hybrid spindle]

ohhhhhhhhh

now I get it

I thought you could craft golden kebabs with normal ones you farm in colo for a moment

[prisma drift]

Nah I’m grinding for 100K golden kebab stack

[hybrid spindle]

but you get them directly. that makes more sense. I haven't considered it but it would certainly be worth my time because I have only like 200 on each char

[elfin cape]

Don't forget you need to farm colo 4 anyway for eggs and troll keys, for the 1000 nm trolls

[prisma drift]

Tbf you don’t “need” to

[hybrid spindle]

as if I'll do that on everyone ^^ Once is bad enough

[fallen torrent]

hey showdowm!

[elfin cape]

Hello

How you doing?

[prisma drift]

Some people have been active ES for keys

[fallen torrent]

pretty okay! what bout you

[prisma drift]

They are crazy I hate ES

[elfin cape]

I mean, a chance for 5k kebabs 🤤

[prisma drift]

With my luck it’s 5K golden sammys

[slender sandal]

more for the stamp 😄

[elfin cape]

Good, was dying from the heat, but the rain cooled a bit overnight

Now I'm suffering doing TD

[prisma drift]

I’m happy with it for now

[elfin cape]

THat's already very good for stamp

With my luck it'd be golden bread

[slender sandal]

wait for the golden vacuum that increases dr in w6

[fallen torrent]

heat? its cold here in canada

[craggy fern]

contact lava with some info about your account and he will send you credentials to reset ur password

[elfin cape]

Dw, it's gonna be bugged, same as golden bread , and only give 1% of it's intended bonus

[elfin cape]

Summer here

I mean, almost summer

34ºC

[fallen torrent]

bruh bring me over there pls

[hybrid spindle]

what am I missing here. My BB has only half the crystal chance my DK has but I can't figure out why (undoubled poop card is normal because I don't have the 2nd card doubler)

[fallen torrent]

the special talent for crystal is it up?

[scenic locust]

south america?

[elfin cape]

You're welcome to come, I don't know how to cook though

[elfin cape]

Yeah

[fallen torrent]

let me do that part. pay me the ticket there

[hybrid spindle]

now it is. tyvm

[untold lintel]

the crystals 4 days star talent is at 0

[hybrid spindle]

now that should increase my xp gain at least a little bit

[elfin cape]

When I get a job that can actually support my student life, sure

[elfin cape]

I'm in talks with the people at my uni to see if they have an exchange program, hopefully they do

[craggy fern]

i really need to get more lvls on my crystal shrine holy

[fallen torrent]

get in canada, i'll lend you my couch as long as you cover food expenses haha

[craggy fern]

all the progress on shrines gets set to 0% of their level when i move them?

[hybrid spindle]

just move them after they just reached a new lvl

unless you have them in a wolrd you're no longer active in then you're kinda screwed ^^

[fallen torrent]

no just the hour put into a lvl

so 100/1000hr, if you move it turn to 0/1000 but if the shrine give you 300% boost. it will still be the same

[hybrid spindle]

I think he knows that. "gets set to 0% of their level"

[craggy fern]

yes ty

[elfin cape]

@fallen torrent I'm following you on twitch, did you ever end up streaming? I never saw you online

[fathom lagoon]

Can this talent go above 100 or nah?

[weak vector]

nope, it's from a quest so the cap is fixed

[fathom lagoon]

Tryna get my spawn rate lower

[fading oracle]

Is it Easy to Beat cattlecruk on ES?

[thorn marsh]

kattle is a dmg check

but with ES it's just a matter of afk time

my first kill took 1½ hour :p

[fading oracle]

What damage did you Need on average?

[quartz turtle]

does this mean i have 96 days to go ?

[graceful tinsel]

yep

[thorn marsh]

it has 100B health, but on ES it doesn't matter since you have AOE dmg. the AOE will keep the adds away, so it's just a question of how long it takes you to do the 100B

[slender sandal]

bubo is fun, just stand on the boss and turn on auto

[brazen trail]

👋

[hollow osprey]

should i use all my ships for unlocking cloud 8 for the fury relic island?

[weak vector]

that sounds advisable... what's the sailing time?

[thorn marsh]

personally I would never send a ship to anywhere that has over 5h sailtime

[nimble palm]

Unless you use gold stopwatches

Or miss a day

[hollow osprey]

oh damn i'll forget this then lmao

it's between 24h-3 days for me

[thorn marsh]

you could do it, but just remember that after unlocking it, you'll still have to send ships there

yeah, sounds like it's gonna be a long ride for your poor boats after it's unlocked :p

[hollow osprey]

my boats suck hella

idk which treasure to focus on tho

[fading plover]

5 hrs, i thought you didn't wanna go over 2

[thorn marsh]

5hours for unlocking islands

2h for regular islands

[hollow osprey]

my boats rn

[thorn marsh]

all of them. each island has resources for upgrading the next tier

[fading plover]

good to know ty

[thorn marsh]

island 1 buffs boat 2, island 2 buffs boat 3 and so on

[hollow osprey]

where should i send multiples boats to?

[thorn marsh]

I'd spread them out equally on what you've got, but always make sure your fastest boats go the furthest

check IE for your 2h traveltime and compare it to the island traveltime

[fading plover]

i try and get a couple boats on each island at least right now, still early on and upgrading them

[wise pike]

Heya ! do we have any speedrun guide ? 😄

[thorn marsh]

this for example is not optimized

[hollow osprey]

ty

[thorn marsh]

6 and 7 should be on dungeon cove (2M) and 8 should be on crystal enclave (5M)

[sick sentinel]

Imo better to check on youtube, i like lp_n runs

[fathom lagoon]

For what? The game?

Or vman

[wise pike]

Vman ahah

[thorn marsh]

3h16m idleon speedrun zero to hero

[fathom lagoon]

There was a good one in #1084911530417606656

[fathom lagoon]

#1109526896640807002 message

[sick sentinel]

Ngl that one isnt rly that good, but its somethin

It was the first one made so ppl came up with better strats

[boreal iron]

Наконец-то меня разбанили

[thorn marsh]

my personal strat is to kill things really fast

combined with a lot of panic

[sick sentinel]

Doctors hate this one trick

[boreal iron]

Фуф

[weak vector]

idk man, 54 speedruns is pretty good

[sick sentinel]

Not when u can eventually gets mid 60s

[weak vector]

especially for most people who don't have absurd MK or damage on their vman

[boreal iron]

[sick sentinel]

Yeah its a fine start, but its not optimal

[weak vector]

Is there another strat? I feel like if there was, somebody would've linked it in tips-n-tricks or on a pin. Until then- that's the best we have

[sick sentinel]

On youtube....

[undone steeple]

fuck i need the greenstack 200 items to get the last equinox right?

[sick sentinel]

The last bonus yes

[undone steeple]

oh apparently it doesnt matter because theres a shit ton of other clouds before it appears anyways

Get a total of 100 BILLION Green Mushroom deathnote kills.
Get a single sample of 1 billion or more of any item. 10 digit sample club, you in?
Reach wave 121 on all 6 Tower Defence Worship Summons

yea what are the odds i can do any of these

xD

[hollow osprey]

💀

[urban gorge]

Are saw statues supposed to be super slow? i'm getting like 50/hr

[thorn marsh]

about 50/50

either you do it or you don't

[daring ravine]

not too bad

[undone steeple]

i cant 😄

[thorn marsh]

that hurts

[hollow osprey]

nah i mean my equinox progress not the dream if u thought that

[undone steeple]

look green mush are the easiest

and this is where im at

XD

[hollow osprey]

too much other things i have to do rn unfortunately

[undone steeple]

my best sample is 300k oak logs

[thorn marsh]

you can easily do the dungeon one and greenstacking shouldn't take too long with some candy and basic ores/oaks

[hollow osprey]

already tried the dungeon one but i can't

[desert night]

I'm going to eclipse skull suggmas as my first eclipse skull, because I can't get the recipe to drop

[hollow osprey]

i can't kill the mobs after 3rd boss

[thorn marsh]

did you unlock horn?

[hollow osprey]

also i'm not r40 for the free purple rng item, tried it multiple times but got no horn

[hollow osprey]

yeah

[thorn marsh]

ah

[undone steeple]

those gloves arent even that good idkwhy people farm them

[thorn marsh]

yeah, gotta wait for that

[undone steeple]

ill only do it when i have nothing else to do

(which to be fair is around now)

[desert night]

Slab considerations, prepping to get NM kattle killed on all players

[hollow osprey]

[thorn marsh]

you need the gloves for this

[undone steeple]

I did my nightmare kattle without it

[desert night]

good to know. We'll see how I feel about it in a week of Quick Slab bubbling

[undone steeple]

used the pink one (dont look at stats he is in lab)

[hollow osprey]

i'm at 8/20 greenstacks

[untold lintel]

is there a way to level up my dks in con quicker? besides just clicking into con like once a day

[undone steeple]

my quickslab is also garbage

[thorn marsh]

your vman is only lvl 300? o.O

[undone steeple]

yes why?

most my toons are at around ~300

except the ones i active with

[thorn marsh]

that's just an insane amount of dmg for that lvl

[undone steeple]

lvl doesnt make that big of a dif

his talentes arent very good

[thorn marsh]

no, but you usually have high lvls by that dmg

[undone steeple]

again, why

[thorn marsh]

from playing the game

[hollow osprey]

[thorn marsh]

afk time = exp unless you're on fractal :p

[mild heron]

Just two more double cogs…

[undone steeple]

my maestro spends most of his days in lab 🙂

[thorn marsh]

fair enough

[undone steeple]

only took him out to lvl because i needed obols

and to do the nightmare kattle quest

needed lvels to equip magma stuff

he was 150 for the longest time lol

[daring rapids]

whys ur vman in lab and not skilling lol

[undone steeple]

what do people greenstack past ~150?
i have all resources, almost all production items, all monster drops

[undone steeple]

printing mostly.
why would you leave him skilling?

[weak vector]

I just burned my greenstacks on stamps so i can redo them for w6

[daring rapids]

quest items, statues, food, peanutes/mining items ect for last greenstacks

[undone steeple]

goddamn

[hollow osprey]

should i just candy for monster drop greenstacks etc? or just active farm

[undone steeple]

my es did most quests already, do i have to farm them on subpar characters?

[thorn marsh]

ES active is alot faster tbh

[undone steeple]

if you're far enough es greenstacks stuff in like an hr

[daring rapids]

I think its better to just active es them for greenstacks

[thorn marsh]

or well, not faster... but I'd do it

[hollow osprey]

uh i don't think so

[daring rapids]

um you have to do on subpar chars then vncnn

[undone steeple]

i did my whole w5 greenstack yesterday and most stages took an hr

[daring rapids]

im still impressed at ur damage, your vman has the damage of my ES lol

[hollow osprey]

nah i mean i don't think i'm far enough for getting a greenstack in such a short amount of time

[undone steeple]

that is not his dmg he is on lab set

[daring rapids]

I know its depressing lol

[undone steeple]

my es is finally getting some dmg ive been 20booking his talents

this is on full dr sets tho

[fallen torrent]

Sry late reply, i havent gotten back to streaming, i moved out and everything and nothing is set up, the place i have right now isnt suited for that 😦

[daring rapids]

not really sure what im missing lol

[thorn marsh]

you're missing a couple of digits

[undone steeple]

about 2k wisdom and prob some stamps/bubbles idk

[fervent yew]

about 3,000 wisdom and probably a tonne of quickslap / the mage dmg talent

[undone steeple]

weapon upgrade as well

[nimble palm]

Missing a ton of wisdom

[undone steeple]

i did get extremely lucky with my sailing for example, im almost done with artifacts and only like lvl 100 sailing

[nimble palm]

Equinox damage, eclipse skulls, prayers maybe

[daring rapids]

yeah my ES isnt really my main char, but even my DK is only like 280, and hes nearing 20k str

[undone steeple]

yea matching scims was a huge boost for me

[daring rapids]

Ahh yeah im struggling, im entering month 4 trying to get the last 25 talent lvl artefact

[fallen torrent]

cant wait to finish the sailing artefacts for now

[paper sail]

Quick Slap is garbage. Stop noob trapping players with that advice.

[undone steeple]

put all 20 boats on that island, get every single character with at least ~300 gummy bear candies

and then login on every char every 4 hrs

[fallen torrent]

missing the second to last Vase and the crystal eye... wich will be the last imma go for... since its useless

[undone steeple]

is that for real? i was thinking of starting to invest in it

[fallen torrent]

Scoli has spoken. and he is right

quick slap is only for End gamers

[daring rapids]

yeah I have all 20 boats on that island for going on 4 months 😛

[nimble palm]

It’s good

[fallen torrent]

there is SO MUCH more bubbles tht are worth more than this quick slap

[undone steeple]

ive been throwing all my daily atom upgrades on mage is best XD

[fervent yew]

It increases base damage by a pretty big amount, it might not be the be all end all but it is still a significant contributor.

[nimble palm]

I would upgrade it until you can kill kruk for scarf recipe and then focus on other bubbles

[fervent yew]

the reason i said it is becaue at those stat levels they've probably already buffed out all the other improtant bubbles

[thorn marsh]

I kinda wanna lvl quick slap now

[undone steeple]

i already killed kruk

[fallen torrent]

Scoli, they are done for. the zombie has bitten them

[paper sail]

Quick Slap doesn't do anything noteworthy until you have like 3k levels in it AND already have 1k movement speed from feasty statues. There are soooooooooo many better uses for Atom Clicks in alchemy

[undone steeple]

but i mean if other bubbles give more dmg then there is 0 point in upgrading it

[thorn marsh]

you heard Scoli. lvl quick slap to 3k+ asap

[undone steeple]

i'll never farm enough coconuts to click it without atoms

[nimble palm]

And farm statues

[thorn marsh]

that too!

(not actual financial advice)

[untold lintel]

whats the first thing I should really atom? i get about 5k atoms a day, im atoming larry and the first/second bubble here and there

[paper sail]

Too early for this shit 😂

[pearl cedar]

Yeah i would not push qs for nkruk. If you can't kill nkruk without qs crutch then you probably have bunch of other things you could push for damage

[nimble palm]

With 5k you can only atom first two bubbles if even

[hollow sandal]

Man ive been sat here for a week tryna get that recipe with an ES am i doing something wrong

[nimble palm]

Didn’t pay your rng tax to lava

[hollow sandal]

Ive paid too much for the rng tax

[paper sail]

2nd bubbles are great, 450 for 90% value, 950 for 95% value

[tulip kayak]

whys ur movespeed so low

[fallen torrent]

37/75 lucky lad started farming em 2 days ago 🙂

3*

[tulip kayak]

this is my es

[undone steeple]

why should it be higher?

[tulip kayak]

do you not have onyx statues?

[undone steeple]

I do

[tulip kayak]

how

[teal lynx]

Just no speed pots i assume

[undone steeple]

yea why use speed pots its active

[tulip kayak]

at least cap movespeed, also quick slap

[teal lynx]

ES doesn't really need it except for some damage through QS

[undone steeple]

why do i need movespeed?

[gentle furnace]

What else do you have in your food slot?

[tulip kayak]

yeah exactly

[dapper kraken]

i just reach world 5, any advice? i'm super lost what to focus on next

[prisma drift]

Don’t focus quick slap

[dapper kraken]

should i throw all my character into divinity

[prisma drift]

Waste of atom clicks

[teal lynx]

Put all on Divinity (except for maybe 1 if you wanna play active). Check the Pins in this channel for a Divinity/Early W5 Guide
Also don't try to push W5 without multikill, the first few maps are okay to push

[gentle furnace]

Ms pot should give more dmg than golden nomwich and medium strength pot

[undone steeple]

it gives a slight boost over nomwitch and loses vs medium str pot, ive already tested

my quick slap is only like 130

id rather have nomeiwtch because i just put every new one in the stack

[nimble palm]

Wish I didn’t spend all golden nomwiches on stamps

[spice meadow]

Yes

[spice meadow]

Theres a stamp that costs golden noms?

[undone steeple]

yea golden food boost

[nimble palm]

Ye, pretty good one too

Well, decent

I don’t have money to level up other stamps 😅

[signal osprey]

Gold food stamp is one of the best stamps in the game

[spice meadow]

Its worth lol

Golden noms arent really that huge

[signal osprey]

Golden noms are useless as a gold food lol

All of them go to stamp upgrades

[spice meadow]

Based

[rich epoch]

we getting another automation arm #💖future-content-blog message

[spice meadow]

The farming arm

[tulip kayak]

lol nice

[rich epoch]

it will be fun figuring out what the stuff actually do instead of what will be written down 😛

[pearl cedar]

The farm if you will

[spice meadow]

The farming copium

[spice meadow]

Griffy probably will do a guide after one week lol

[rich epoch]

I think it will probably not be all about farming tho

I guess

but we can't really think logically

[pastel bramble]

dang im actually gonna make it past 190 im surprised 😄 maybe 200

[rich epoch]

it may have upgrades for W7 for all I know

[hollow osprey]

should be fine to go for the 1m rift kills challenge i assume?

[spice meadow]

It cant only focus on w6 right?

...right?

[sick sentinel]

🤭

[rich epoch]

my towers are shit and I pushed to 140 with the guide so if yours are good you can Def do it

[rich epoch]

w7 🤭

[pastel bramble]

mine are at 60-70 levels atm 😄

[spice meadow]

noooo

[lost depot]

If you don't mind taking a break from Idleon then yes it can be optimal to put all toons into divinity until you unlock the passive exp stance

[spice meadow]

To unlock the passive exp stance it takes like, 15 weeks?

I dont remember

[keen rapids]

Depends on your exp gain O-o

cooking, stamps etc

[spice meadow]

Since he just reached w5 im not considering those

[nimble palm]

Much less

[keen rapids]

Cooking is extremely easy to do

Stamps that's fair enough

[spice meadow]

Post uh, the purple salt is kinda dificult

Considering that hes new

[spice meadow]

Like 10?

[nimble palm]

Like 4

[keen rapids]

Even if it takes a day or a week to do it will make divinity a lot quicker.

[nimble palm]

If even

[spice meadow]

Its lvl 40 the passive one lol

Unless you guys are saying the 1exp for all

[nimble palm]

I remember having 40 very early into release. 3-4 weeks maybe less. Definitely not 10

And that was before elite classes got div skill

[spice meadow]

Surfing in exp i see

[fervent brook]

Its over

[swift pecan]

My grind time is gonna need some love apparently. Vman active overnight at worms only went from 420-426.

[ornate zinc]

Is there any command or pin related to w5 merit?

Cuz idk what to spent them on

[teal lynx]

#bot-commands message

[light junco]

Is there a best spot to do the active statue farm on blood berserker? Seems like this one is going to take a while

Or do you just candy at fishes?

[teal lynx]

Candying Dreadlo ore is the best way. In Pins there is a card setup and everything you need to know

[light junco]

Ahh thanks

[smoky sorrel]

how d i do this task?

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[smoky sorrel]

I didnt understand do i need chips?

[teal lynx]

That chocolate cookie top row, chip 3 will greatly increase the amount of statues u get, since it gives you more crystals

[loud surge]

Do you need the god unlocked for king doot?

[teal lynx]

Statues mostly drop from Crystals, therefore you want crystal chance, poop and genie card. The other cards are drop rate cards so you are more likely to get statues when killing an enemy

[smoky sorrel]

I have a bad urge in this, I only got defense one for months

[teal lynx]

You only need Purrmep, Tiger god since his link is unique. And unlocking the Gods will give you access to their blessings
Bot technically you don't need to unlock gods for them to be active

[swift pecan]

You need level 2 divinity on every character to get doot to work properly as well i think.

[teal lynx]

Chips are not random. They are the same for everyone. The next Choco chip is coming on December, 27

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah that is true. Good thinking

[smoky sorrel]

A month later 😦

[teal lynx]

I advice you to farm those materials ASAP!
These will increase your gains by a huge margin

[smoky sorrel]

Thank you. I was going to ask about this.

[keen rapids]

The spice requirements 😭

Keep spending it without thinking

[hidden osprey]

was there any skill order for active bubo?

[teal lynx]

Raise Dead, Aura, CC, Ghost
Nothing else

On huge maps like floms you can go with chemical warfare

[vapid cove]

res aura fart gas

and then cranium

[hidden osprey]

alright thanks

[teal lynx]

Hope you got 100 of the last spice for tomorrow :P

I have like 45 meals that take 1 ladle. Haven't really checked since I'm farming those 100k ladles for Equinox. Damn really gotta upgrade them before using those 100k ladles

[keen rapids]

I hope you don't get a santa hat 😛

[teal lynx]

[keen rapids]

You better hope there is a christmas event again ;p

[hidden osprey]

so if my max dmg is at 244m and im not really able to oneshot almost anything in w5 on my bubo then i should just dump him on soda cans till i unlock all the bubbles?

[teal lynx]

I would just register it for slab and probably trash it
Or give it one of my lab rats

[keen rapids]

But santa hat 😭

[teal lynx]

Floms if poison one shots. If not then Cans yeah

[keen rapids]

So do you not have the blue christmas hats then?

[teal lynx]

I have not played any christmas events I think?

[keen rapids]

Damn o-o

[hidden osprey]

floms it is then

[teal lynx]

Last year there was no christmas event right?

[keen rapids]

Sadly there wasn't 😦