lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-scared-goodmorning-funny-gif-24169164

[proven basin]

wtf is wrong in this channel

[vagrant mountain]

why did you ruin our moment

[proven basin]

i didn't

[vagrant mountain]

[proven basin]

i just saw a pregnant grumblo in half

[vagrant mountain]

im visualizing frying pancakes

[patent hatch]

what do the synbols next to the names actually stand for in terms of this discord?

[vagrant mountain]

[patent hatch]

like the bandit bob next to mine

[vagrant mountain]

bandit bob means that you're down

[patent hatch]

down what

[vagrant mountain]

down to clown if u know what i mean

[patent hatch]

o.O

[vagrant mountain]

its ok everyone gets banned

its part of life

i got banned from the bar for taking my clothes off

[patent hatch]

p()land

[vagrant mountain]

i was kidding but ya alcohol makes u do funny stuff

[patent hatch]

these roles, you have a ton of them

[vagrant mountain]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/963602323869925446

[patent hatch]

oh, well there you go lol

bandit bob 8 for you too

[median bane]

Quick question for the rift, how hard should I be focusing to get ruby cards? I’m not getting a huge number of kills an hour (about 1m+) should I wait until it’s faster? Currently at rift 45

[vagrant mountain]

honestly it's only gay if you make eye contact when you finish

[patent hatch]

ah the pickle rick is now equipped

[vagrant mountain]

exactly, so it was perfectly straight

just a couple bros having a straight experience

[patent hatch]

i will get chem aaaaany month now..

11 months of waiting, i cant waits no mores

very eastern European of you

[vagrant mountain]

need to get 10T for purple dmg

[patent hatch]

oOoOoO

whar does a sewer monkey eat

[vagrant mountain]

sewer crumbs

put your hand in the sewer river and close your fingers, you will collect a lot of yum

[patent hatch]

waiting for the red trimmed dmg

Any aussies in chat?

[vagrant mountain]

just click bubbles

hope its enough for w6

[patent hatch]

when you fight omega shenron, the final boss of the game he will one tap you

[vagrant mountain]

i will just need to put more levels in FMJ

[patent hatch]

is there an actual benefit of having def that high though

[vagrant mountain]

there is actually

using both beefy and multikill prayer will reduce my def down to like 3k

which is barely enough to survive tremor wurm crystal mob

[patent hatch]

ahh

[patent hatch]

i need to get beefy

can't believe I dont have it alrdy

[vagrant mountain]

prob a bit higher than 3k but they are multiplicative so i lose a lot

im going to ruin my obol snapshot for u

without prayers

[patent hatch]

this enough to get to 130 on frosty?

[vagrant mountain]

with prayers

xD

[patent hatch]

trying is the first step to failing

I'll do it!

[vagrant mountain]

heh

why not

be proud

[prisma drift]

Bean cult better

[patent hatch]

its morbin time

[zinc torrent]

[vagrant mountain]

youre too late now

we could have ganged up on ducky

[patent hatch]

only 70 more rounds

[vagrant mountain]

🫡

[patent hatch]

yep spamming the button

[vagrant mountain]

i could not get to 2b today maybe tomorrow

[patent hatch]

i can't spamz no mores

[vagrant mountain]

mine used to be 50m

[patent hatch]

mine is 45m :P

[vagrant mountain]

the world was at peace and the builders were building but then suddenly, the fire nation attacked

in sewer they get stronk

if not they become sewer

yes

this you now

this is us

look how happy we are

[junior delta]

say i got 10 players with mantra, why do i not get 10exp per hour

[vagrant mountain]

sorry, this is best the AI could do

https://tenor.com/view/alcantarilla-tulla-luana-alcantarilla-gif-18544108

real monkies have 4 hands tho

the forbidden 4th hand tech

[patent hatch]

30 to go!!

50

[tawny gale]

How to know when to use little sprinkler gaming (just unlocked)

[vagrant mountain]

bruce willis

[ashen marsh]

basically whenever you can fill up the regular bar

[slender fox]

Best way to get eldritch artifacts with bottled wind?

Got everyone on fury with 2h sailing time. SB Talents yes/no and maybe chest rarity?
Been stuck for months on it

[sharp egret]

just went from 300k nugget to 3 million nugget, quite the jump

[ashen marsh]

how do you increase it?

just lvl up?

[ashen marsh]

the shovel

[sharp egret]

you have to level up the shovel but for really high numbers you need the equinox upgrade

and then just many tries

[ashen marsh]

oh okay I havent unlocked the equinox upgrade. still stuck at getting all green stacks lol

i guess I can get the w1 items at 10m

[pastel bramble]

[hollow osprey]

what should my BM sample?

[vagrant mountain]

bugs/mob mats usually

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

gonna sample mob mats then ig

bugs without any bug skills sucks

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, i have mine printing mats i need for vials

can also print refinery mats

[tulip kayak]

max pog

[hollow osprey]

gonna sample mats for red salts ig

[molten arrow]

can someone pls help me with a question i have, im to stupid to understand the golden relic

[sharp egret]

seems a waste to print monster mats anyone but the voidwalker

[prisma drift]

I wonder if BM could print enough oak/copper for hourly clicks

[sharp egret]

it just goes up over time and resets when you sample, i think

[vagrant mountain]

usually vman prints gmush but you can do it on your BM too

[molten arrow]

i thought it would simply passively increase my initial value

[hollow osprey]

oh well then

oh yeah just saw my vman is on gmush and sheepie mat

[vagrant mountain]

you can do sandy pots

[fast grail]

Missing anything for a leaderboard? Dont want to calculate too many things rn, so not gonna do like cons speed, anvil, etc.

Sampling:

Green Spores
Oak
Copper
Flies
Goldfish
Total Printed Mats

Skilling:

Level of all skills
Highest wave of each TD
Total MSA?
Gaming Highscore
Total meal level
Total Refinery Ranks
Total Buildings
Maxed Vials
Total Bubbles(no GT)
GT
Gaming bits (TBD)

General

Highest Damage hit
Current Money
Atom Count
Total Stamps
Total Shrine Levels
Total Gmush
Highest Char level
Total Family

[hollow osprey]

will do ty

[upbeat trout]

how can i improve artifacts chance ?

is it related to skill level somehow ?

[vagrant mountain]

total cogs trashed

[fast grail]

Added

[tulip kayak]

how are you gonna make this

[prisma drift]

I’m curious what I’m at

My boards pretty nice for my con level

[fast grail]

website

[vagrant mountain]

magic wand and the right words

[patent hatch]

like what big mac did?

[tulip kayak]

I look forward to it

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/its-leviosa-wingardium-gif-12617201

[fast grail]

Similar, that was using pythonanywhere which i could technically use instead as well. As of right now it'l be an actual website like IE/IT

[patent hatch]

oh damn, very nice!

[fast grail]

just going to be tons of work of things ive never done before, and so many decisions

[patent hatch]

all the best with it

[fast grail]

Ty

[patent hatch]

will it be reliant on people signing up to get stats?

[fast grail]

As of right now, the plan is to base it upon people's public IEs

[patent hatch]

ah and therefore replace the old leaderboards

[fast grail]

essentially yes

[patent hatch]

poggers

[fast grail]

people will have to provide name on the site, then it will go out to the public ie of provided name and yoink info

[barren otter]

highest nugget

[fast grail]

Added to list

[barren otter]

oh thats not on IE/IT

i lied its on IT

[peak bison]

brand new w5 player here should I keep this for later or use it?

[fair karma]

Hi all, I want some advice regarding statue farming. Those are my stats more or less:

• Lv 150 talents.
• 9x DR
• 1 in 62 crystal chance
• NO chocolatey chip

I really, really want to farm the power statues to get the onyx (as I have already several 20K stacks). I saw that the power statues are part of the droptable of slimes, snakes, carrots and gublins. Would it make sense to go to those maps with the DK or rather go to a higher density map like bored beans and just do it based on the sparse crystals I get?

Thanks!

[sharp egret]

without chip I did ES on snakes

[scenic spruce]

what now?

[fair karma]

hmm so bet more on the regular drop than the crystal chance from DK... Did not think of that, will do some tests. Thanks!

[sharp egret]

though with my remaining onyx statues I will wait on chip, doable without but a major pain

[sour sequoia]

i dont have world 5

[peak bison]

why?

[worn sonnet]

Reload map

[scenic locust]

Does the Big P alchemy bubble boost all of the divinity minor link bonuses when you have doot? Or does the deity you're actually linked to matter?

[bright vine]

All

[scenic locust]

so big p is omega tier with doot then lol

[bright vine]

You should have all bubbles equipped from another pet too

Otherwise, yes

[scenic locust]

yeah, I mean in terms of upgrade priority

[bright vine]

Big p is op

Well, it scales, so you upgrade it up to a point. You need a high div level too to get all benefits from minor link bonuses

[scenic locust]

I just realized, do I need to be claiming sailing on the character with the highest divinity level? Or does it matter?

[bright vine]

If you claim on sb with big p equipped, you don’t really need to worry about that

[fair karma]

Alright. The numbers with my DK overnight, around 8h were 600ish statues. With ES, 12 min, I got 52, which at the 8h mark more or less should return 2k-ish. It truly is a huge difference, so thanks again for the insight!

[bright vine]

Choco chip soon in store. I would use this time to play on es to get upgrades, vials, green stacks

Then go ham on dk for statues, with probably higher dr

[slender sandal]

yep you have about 5 weeks to farm up for chocochip if you need to

[sacred verge]

still is over i month to choco isnt it?

[slender sandal]

it's end of dec

[sacred verge]

yeah

100% if you dont have the mats, start working on it now

[scenic locust]

Where do you get the chip schedule?

[bright vine]

Idleontoolbox

[sacred verge]

there is a sheet for it

[bright vine]

Has one

[sacred verge]

but yea IT also

[sharp egret]

np, the difference the chip makes is large, so es works better without, I turned about half the statues to onyx without but the rest will have to wait for chip

[sacred verge]

its soo much faster with choco

lol

[bright vine]

Check pins

[scenic locust]

lol

[barren otter]

No ty?

[elfin cape]

XD

As a wise man used to say:

Reading Hard

[autumn ledge]

Just killed Kattlecruk for first time. Felt underwhelming. Is he worth it on "normal"? Or should I be saving for harder difficulties?

[slender sandal]

harder has the good drops/better rates but if it takes you forever to kill then it's probably not worth it until you level your account up more

not like keys expire anyway

[leaden karma]

should i unlock island 14 so i could upgrade this? my best sailing spd is only 4m(2 boats) or should i get ancient/eldritch other artifacts first? i want to upgrade the bubble because my mage is falling behind in dmg compared to warrior and archer

[sharp egret]

i don't think the chip gamble is worth it now that choco is relatively near again.

[sacred verge]

any1 here had issues with the quest "sample > 20 pens" in w3?

[true anchor]

Yea it’s worth

Doubled by dmg on mages

[old portal]

Its a really good bonus but its only worth if you can min sail the island

You can just send ur best boat to it if its on min sail

[leaden karma]

ok tnx!

[pure spindle]

Stats/time? Im at 10k power no chip can give other stats as well

10.8 dr 1/50 crystals, perhaps a week left at this current rate for me

[remote pike]

yo guys, is it a known bug that the printer symbol for a character linked to harriep doesnt show but instead it shows the prints as "blue" for being in lab?( yes i double checked the character is actually linked to harriep and not currently in the lab.)

[sharp egret]

i think my es got about 600-700 statues per hour or something active. think it was after i was done with obols so dr probably 12 or something, don't remember the rest

[pure spindle]

My es dr is 13 bc of obols so i thinks thats my best bet, ty

[paper sail]

Thank you 🫡 That 19th rank is currently only looking for all salts to be at 0% autorefine. I'll have to find another qualifier to stop that from happening before you even unlock the refinery.

[worthy helm]

How do i know how far i am from maxing prowess

[dense prism]

am i missing something ? i have 25 max vials i thought 26 was enough to get it to 100% but there is no way i get 2.5%

[tacit tulip]

you're missing that it's 27 🙂

[dense prism]

shit

[tacit tulip]

65% base. 65x1.54 = 100.1

[daring ravine]

just gamble by this point
trust me

a 2.5% wont happen 10 times in a row

[tacit tulip]

it's difficult to eyeball but there's only a handful of prowess sources and they cap at...+100%?

It's something like (Post office + cooking) x alchemy bubble

[daring ravine]

it is 2x yeah
i think theyre all additive with eachother too

[tacit tulip]

or is it just the bubble that caps at 2

the bubble always reads weird to me - like it's multiplying the other prowess bonuses

but I was told you could max prowess purely through the bubble so maybe it mutiplies base too

[worthy helm]

So no reason to go beyond 2 on bubble

Gotcha

[tacit tulip]

either way, it's not hard to max prow

[daring ravine]

you have leek to cover most of the prowess anyway

[tacit tulip]

yeah 😄

[worthy helm]

Wish there was something for obscure stats like that on IE or something

Just to see if it was maxed or another thing to worry about

[tacit tulip]

there's a lot of little things that hard cap that people don't realise yeah

[worthy helm]

Guess i'll upgrade and see if something changes

[tacit tulip]

like bubble/stamp cost reductions, or vman printer skill

[worthy helm]

vman printer is weird

I used to always get 4 or 5x proc and now with 75% i always get 1

[tacit tulip]

I had a good run today, 8 or so

[worthy helm]

Always nice when that happens

[tacit tulip]

especially now that I've joined the hourly clicking crew

[daring ravine]

relatable
4 1 proccs in a row

[prisma drift]

Some days I proc 17 times

Some weeks I proc a total of 7

[graceful tinsel]

Me all the time

[willow sorrel]

what level should CC bubble be levelled to

mines at 800 rn

gives 110% effect

[hidden osprey]

should i push for more artifacts or upgrade the ones i already have to ancient, eldritch?

[willow sorrel]

if the later islands are too far just ancient the earlier ones

[hidden osprey]

my ancient fury relic chances are like 0.03% and i dont have enough speed for 2h trips

[slender sandal]

90% bubble is 630 and gives ~108% cc effect so leveling it much more will just have massive diminishing returns

[mortal compass]

also a question i am struggling with i have 0.07% chance to get next level of fury and under 2hr trips

but is it worth just doing that island

[hidden osprey]

idk im on previous islands getting mats to upgrade my boats to 150k speed

to get 2h trips

[lyric sequoia]

I'm very disappointed that my vman can't 100% chance mine dreadlo with transfusion active

[hidden osprey]

u can link both of ur es to omniphau as second god if u are able to

u might get some more sailing procs

[mortal compass]

but i have my ES printing oak logs for atoms

[lyric sequoia]

Just feed lava the prerequisite $500 and get doot so every character procs sailing

(or farm a fuck tonne of gold hampters I guess, if you want to be "ethical" or something)

[hidden osprey]

😳

[mortal compass]

yeah all my characters have between 13-18% of a sailing proc

[lyric sequoia]

Don't need many of them to get 50% chance, 20k or something llike that

[daring ravine]

even less based on golden food bonus

[lyric sequoia]

I have 18k on my bubo which gives 61% chance, not overlly sure how much gold food boost % I have though

32k ladles, slowly sllowly...

[left spoke]

What is the best divinity setup if I'm done with almost everything important ? Can someone share his divinity screen from Toolbox ?

[thorn oriole]

Is there a faster way to lvl up cooking

[left spoke]

(that screen)

[left spoke]

Balloons I think

[thorn oriole]

Idk have doot

[left spoke]

True

It's not about "get good" it's about "get doot" now

[keen rapids]

You using the x40 passes?

You just have an oddly low amount of the blue thing O_o

Fair enough

Anyone know if there is a cap to this though?

It just keeps going 😦

I haven't even seen a difference though 😭

[left spoke]

What's the use of that ? More scroll drop rate ?

[keen rapids]

it's meant too

I haven't seen a damn difference

[left spoke]

Mine is at 70%, those scrolls are useless to drop more except for the little money they give when you sell them

[daring ravine]

Rng Voucher

[keen rapids]

Rng voucher easily gets mad with just 200% dorp rate

It doesn't really make a difference

You start getting to many perks to even apply em

When you drop one

Your gonna drop 2

I meant for the end of a run during golden hour

I usually get about 300k at the end of a run 16k just seemed really low.

Which is why i asked if that was a x40 run

[pastel bramble]

its been 17 years... but im almost there

🧓

[worthy helm]

TD checkpoints when...

[sharp egret]

i wish i could set up some kind of auto collect for the perks, just a priority list for the decisions or something. you spend so much time just collecting stuff in the dungeon

[keen rapids]

Too true and it's just a pain if you start spamming and get the one that reduces hp by 20%

And you end up accidently setting hp to like 3 ;/

[slender sandal]

Yeah I bricked a run by doing that

[keen rapids]

You just have to re-roll all your armour to block %

and try to save it ;/

[pastel bramble]

or just safespot mobs 😄

each char has a option for safespotting

just takes a bit longer

[keen rapids]

I'd rather just leave him on auto lot less effort xD

[pastel bramble]

3hp aint bad when u consider the level 50 rewards that set u to 1 hp and give nice benefits

every dungeon

theres a stage where ur hp doesnt matter tbh

[hidden osprey]

whats mainframe bonus

gg

oh its the spelunker thingy

[pearl pebble]

the stuff u get in lab

[dim wind]

All things equal, which class is best to active for kc?

[lyric sequoia]

KC?

[dim wind]

killcount

[lyric sequoia]

bubo

Raw kills per second doesn't mean much though

[dim wind]

Looking to get some 100m's on the deathnote

[hollow osprey]

something is wrong i got 100 power statues in the last 2h of farming wtf

[north wren]

Heres a question ..how do I use atom collider properly?

[dim wind]

no chocolate cookie?

[hollow osprey]

with choco

[rich epoch]

first you need a physics degree

[north wren]

Fair, let me call my buddy who's an aerospace engineer and I'll get back to you guys.

[rich epoch]

(I'm bad and I don't really know how that's why the joke answer)

[slender sandal]

Questions about which ones to invest in or?

[north wren]

I just unlocked it. I know it destroys your materials. Do I change settings on it? Leave as is? What

[slender sandal]

Set to 1050m and turn it off

If you go smaller it'll auto convert everything in your chest over whatever value is set

It starts slow but as your account matures and your samples get better and better you get more and can really benefit

You want to be able to go up to 1b in your chest so you can max vials

And then for actual atom gen it's usually from oak/copper samples since they're the easiest to get huge numbers on

[cyan shuttle]

a good idea for it would be like:
you start from last wave with all the points you could've gotten from the start
time is stopped so you can place all the towers then start from that wave

and problem solved

[fading oracle]

best map to farm crytals in w2?

[slender sandal]

Pots is the general spot since it's nearly the best but also drops glass shards for the capacity stamp

Iirc Tysons if you don't care about the stamp

[hollow osprey]

if you care about mason jar stamp, pots

for the glass shards

[fading oracle]

only need droplots and alch go brr stamp, thats what im looking for

[fathom lagoon]

Oof

[dim wind]

Anyone tried to greenstack the equinox mirror yet? 😄

[vapid cove]

you can definitely do it just might take a bit

[pastel bramble]

sheet like 30min away from 2hr limit

[hoary oracle]

hi everyone

[pastel bramble]

if i forfeit i still get 160 complete right? 🤔

[magic fjord]

If you have multiple SB, which counts for Archlord of the Pirates (Plunderous mob kills)?

[scenic locust]

I think it adds them together

[livid raft]

best place to farm dna on W3? and still best to check every 5-10mins on there?

Only got 1 pet left to unlock for W3.. so ready to grind it out lol

[scenic locust]

I think mustaches

[potent maple]

technically shorter time the better, anything over 3 mins that counts as "afk" but i've used 1-hr candies before as well

less and less DNA earned per minute the longer it's been since you checked

[livid raft]

Ah thats what I thought it was. So I need to make more upgraded splicing guns.. so I can just rotate all 10 toons lol. Need to get them max guns anways for extra stats.. just been lazy

[potent maple]

it counts any particular wave complete when ALL baddies on the screen are dead, was that the case after 160? if so you should be good

[potent maple]

batteries so annoying, i only have upgrades on like 2 of my dudes. i am also lazy

[hollow osprey]

what is DNA slicing used for?

[potent maple]

pet breeding

w4

[hollow osprey]

what exactly at breeding?

[potent maple]

the "upgrade" button here

[scenic locust]

upgrading gives a higher chance of getting a new pet

[hollow osprey]

ohh gtk ty

[livid raft]

and getting shiny faster/easier lol. Im just trying to get all pets unlocked and shiny before W6 drop... been putting it off for like 4-5 months saying I'd do it later >.>

[pastel bramble]

it updated on idle eff to 160 so i guess im good 😄

[worthy helm]

And also more chance at the shiny form whenever you get to that point

All my chars on splicing rn

[scenic locust]

I just assumed that by the time people got to shiny pets they know about dna splicing 🙂

[worthy helm]

W2 pets almost done

[potent maple]

do you think this is still do-able or too many passive speed upgrades by this point in the game?

[livid raft]

Im mid-game W5.. but noob still 😄

[worthy helm]

Theres some star signs that decrease move spd

Maybe some prayers too but not sure

[livid raft]

That may be hard to do.. pretty sure my speed is above that with nothing on a toon at this point

[potent maple]

oh that's right!!!

and agility improves speed, so could respec out of that too

[scenic locust]

doesn't one of the prayers reduce move speed too? Or am I high?

[worthy helm]

Unsure of that

[scenic locust]

-12. damn

[worthy helm]

Nope

[potent maple]

no, and i am 😄 https://idleoninsight.com/?search=move

[worthy helm]

No prayers decrease movespd

[left spoke]

One of my DK get twice more construct exp/hr than my other DK, someone knows why that may be the case ? My second DK got his construct talents maxed

[worthy helm]

Only the dk that is currently active gets the bonus or something

Lava coding ig

[potent maple]

i hear that question a lot and do not remember the specifics, but you could search it

[left spoke]

I'm active on the DK with the lowest xp/h

[worthy helm]

Oh

[spring raptor]

acctually, inverse- active dk is penalized

[worthy helm]

Try gem shop and back

Might've been cause you changed talent presets

[left spoke]

It has been the case for weeks

not something new

[potent maple]

no, its a 2nd DK thing but i forget why

[worthy helm]

Huh

[spring raptor]

any active character gets penalized for conxp, its just you feel it most for the dk

[potent maple]

you could search this specific chat and probably find it pretty quick

[left spoke]

Oh but the active char indeed get less xp

[worthy helm]

itiswhatitis

[left spoke]

weird

[spring raptor]

That's what I've read in here, and hopping onto my second dk for a bit (finally pulled him from the lab), my other dk jumped a few con levels pretty quick

[fallow aurora]

wheres the code? I reached teehee 15

[left spoke]

I've one lv445 and the other only 414

[potent maple]

gotta BEAT teehee, try closing the game on fight for like 3 minutes then come back? i think that's right

[spring raptor]

419 and 427 for me

[fallow aurora]

I cheesed my way to it, I can't even damage it

[spring raptor]

I left the gem shop cogs for a really long time

[potent maple]

i was stuck there forever till someone suggested closing it or else there was 1 more thing I had to do, try closing it on combat screen

[left spoke]

I didn't buy a single cog from gem shop, don't know if those are worth it

[potent maple]

if that doesn't work, ping me back

[left spoke]

And now I'm saving gems for W6 release

[spring raptor]

there'll really good tbh

[potent maple]

!gemshop

[spring raptor]

increased my build speed by like 25% and spiked up my exp as well (which is much more important anyway)

[livid raft]

I think they are worth it.. but I also spend way to much money on this game that I know nothing about rofls.

[worthy helm]

How is card packs 2nt tier lmao

[spring raptor]

I've got the first set of 4

[fallow aurora]

didn't work

[scenic locust]

probably because lava put the list together? lol

[granite grove]

outdated and bad tier list, it has card packs and keychain on 2nd tier

but yes, zen cogs are kinda A tier, even just 1 upgrade gives massive boost to cons

[left spoke]

And fenceyard in "buy what you need"

[potent maple]

i think that's an old graphic too, no w5 stuff on it

[left spoke]

Don't you need 4 to be really good ?

[spring raptor]

well, you need all of them, so

[worthy helm]

[granite grove]

yes, but even 1 is good because of the boost cog it has

the 4 combined cogs is nice but doesnt do much as the booster one

[spring raptor]

boosting the whole board is nice, but really everything is in service of the dk anyway

[left spoke]

The thing is W6 is probably 2~3 months ahead and I only have 1100 gems left

I'd need 5k gems by then

[worthy helm]

5k gems?

[potent maple]

i searched this disc for "teehee 15" and see lots of posts, such as #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[worthy helm]

More like 3.5k gems and 5k more if u want the speeding items

[spring raptor]

5th gem cog is 5k, first 4 isn't close to that

[left spoke]

Depends on the world

[spring raptor]

er, 1k, 5th gem cog is 1k

[worthy helm]

Cause with 4 u can make excogia

[spring raptor]

right

[worthy helm]

So you won't need the upgrade for a while

It's a uh

[spring raptor]

yeah, the rest of them are kinda gravy

[worthy helm]

Breaking point

Like the multiple of 10 on those talents

[thin escarp]

i have the weirdest complaint... i need a rift slug. I did not get it again. Instead I have a second... more difficult pet. I'd say what are the freaking odds but... damn.

I did not spend money for pets.

[paper sail]

5k probably not enough gems for w6 release tbh. I'm going to aim for 15k

[vestal yew]

is late game alchemy leveling just using atoms to level everything up?

[granite grove]

and hourly clicks if you can do it

[vestal yew]

whats hourly clicks?

[granite grove]

level bubble every hour from 3d printer gains

and yes that means to print 1b of a resource an hour

[worthy helm]

Since resource costs cap at 1b

[paper sail]

Bubbles cap at 1b resource, but our samples keep going up

[worthy helm]

So do atom costs

[granite grove]

atom cost also caps at 1b of a resource, relative to the max value

[paper sail]

It is also plenty acceptable to do clicks every 2, 3, 4, 5 hours

[devout fractal]

is there a probability caluclator for this game? Trying to figure out what my true chace of getting a drop is with multikill and drop rate added

[worthy helm]

Do they?

Thought they went up with level

[granite grove]

yeah they are capped

[left spoke]

mk doesn't help for drop rate

[paper sail]

They go up per bubble, but yeah each bubble caps both Atom and a resource cost

[potent maple]

do you start with bubble 1 or with a specific OP bubble?

[worthy helm]

Whats the atom cost cap

[granite grove]

depends on bubble Nth tier, i think guide section has list of it

[devout fractal]

oh wait i knew that lol. i forgot though. So its just drop rate that effects it?

[granite grove]

as in #1084911530417606656

yes, just drop rate, afk rate and base kill (mob respawn and mov speed)

theres also map layout and mob density but its outside of your control

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1096342142932238376

[granite grove]

unless if active grind then its slightly different for rare drops

[vestal yew]

so the max atom costs can be is 1b divided by 10m?

[granite grove]

only for 1st bubble, also see this ^

[paper sail]

Not quite, no. Check out the post i just linked

[worthy helm]

Gtk

[vestal yew]

not understanding that chart, what is nb?

[granite grove]

number

[vestal yew]

oops yeah obviously lol

[worthy helm]

Currently all my peeps are pushing breeding by getting dna on w2 and i also have vman on skilling cos his killcount is getting reset anyways is this good or nah

[vestal yew]

and it caps there??? thats crazy. Only 100 atoms for infinite levels on the first bubble

[worthy helm]

Too bad it's limited times / day

[keen rapids]

If it wasn't we'd have people in the millions O-o

[worthy helm]

Yep

[vestal yew]

well how many times can you click a day if boron is max level?

[granite grove]

yes but also the worst use of atom since its limited per day, best to go for cons exp % or quick slap if you wanna MK through w6 day0 for some reason

[worthy helm]

Boron + w5 achievement too

[granite grove]

1st bubble can just be hourly clicked soooo

[worthy helm]

2nd salt bubble tho

[granite grove]

with 3 bubbles, thats like up to 72 clicks and 5-ish total stats doesnt do much

salt bubble just let nblb hit it, or if the cons build rate %, you almost already reach 90% hard cap by the time you can atom it

[worthy helm]

I fear if i post my ie profile i'll get dogged on for how bad it is

And it is bad

[paper sail]

I guarantee I've seen worse

[potent maple]

you will, that's like the #1 game of w5 chat 😄 but you'll learn a lot too which is the whole point, so go ahead and do it!

[vestal yew]

https://liquidrope.idleonefficiency.com

mine cany be better than youyrs so post away

[worthy helm]

Heads up nearly all my guys are on rift for rift 25

[paper sail]

Because I've seen my own alt account 🤣

[potent maple]

if it makes you feel any better, i've been playing since well before w4 and I'm very very far behind, i'm a slow player, but that's just how I play, you're ok no matter where you're at

[granite grove]

farm glass shard and lv up that mason jar stamp

[worthy helm]

https://newertt.idleonefficiency.com/

Last few guys are severely undergeared

And alchemy is chugging along

[paper sail]

What is up with your divinity?

[vestal yew]

uhh wdym

oh not everyone is on atom

[paper sail]

Like... Why is everyone on Zen stance instead of TranQi

[potent maple]

everyone should be connected to a god too yeah?

[granite grove]

doot user or do you just forget to link to god?

[spark pasture]

Is there a food capacity stamp? I can't seem to make the last bag cause I can't hold enough to make it

[granite grove]

also tranqi too

[left spoke]

You have doot ?

[vestal yew]

oh I have everyone in the lab because i have doot. I dont know what else to do with them atm

[granite grove]

you have arctis

[paper sail]

Just Mason Jar. Don't forget the Rucksack prayer + 3 carry cap star signs

[potent maple]

does the chest special talent increase get you enough cap? on vman with their capacity increase as well?

[fallow aurora]

does this work on other chars?

[granite grove]

no

[left spoke]

If you have doot Arctis is always active so you don't need char in lab

If you don't know what to do just get xp

[worthy helm]

Unless you wanna lv up lab and div

[fallow aurora]

ty

[granite grove]

how long was since your last unlink

[vestal yew]

yeah I know but I get levels on lab, and I get div points

[paper sail]

TK storage does help with food. Jmans talent is Material only though.

[granite grove]

if trying to triple prints, need harriep link AND link to lab

not just link to lab

[potent maple]

ah

[left spoke]

What for ?

[worthy helm]

Hm

[left spoke]

Better things to do

[vestal yew]

I mainly need div points, cause I dont know what else to do with them lol. I guess I can farm xp

[left spoke]

Farm W5 keys + xp

You'll need lvl425 for divine scarf

Farm better gear too

[granite grove]

your IE shows you only have few chars linked to god

[potent maple]

farm mats for vials to get a bunch to lvl 13 including snek vial until it says 100%, then onyx all your statues

[left spoke]

Doot

[paper sail]

Looks you already have everyone to 75 lab, and you have 1k skill mastery for lab. You don't need anything else from Lab at this point.

[vestal yew]

ive been waiting for cookie chip to farm statues...

[granite grove]

oh wait yeah i missed the message

[potent maple]

soon right?

[vestal yew]

do I need to link people to gods with doot?

[potent maple]

you can still farm mats for vials

[granite grove]

actually no other than purrmep

[vestal yew]

ill do that

[paper sail]

1 person needs to be on Purrmep, but that is it.

[vestal yew]

also is the goal to get everyone to have divine scarf and magma gear?

[potent maple]

i got all statues but 1 before i realized i needed to do vials too and was like "damnit" cuz I coulda been working on those before

[left spoke]

Most of the mats should be 3D printed with Vman (or ES active)

[granite grove]

yes, divine scarf best in slot atm, esp with pendant doubler chip

[potent maple]

i'd think ES active would be better than just sitting in the lab, and to link vman to print god

[vestal yew]

what does ES active do for prints..??

[paper sail]

The Strung Tooth is better in active scenarios, usually. But anuthing AFK wants The Divine Scarf

[left spoke]

Not for prints but you get lot of mats quickly, useful for greenstack

[potent maple]

not for prints, but ES active gets tons of the mob drops really fast

[left spoke]

Yeah obviously, sitting in lab is a waste of time at this point with doot

[granite grove]

ES active as in to grind materials you need in an urgent but dont have print slots to do so, typically you have it for log samples

[left spoke]

No need to link Vman with Doot I guess

[potent maple]

tru

[granite grove]

also dont want to resample too frequent or you lose the arti bonus

[left spoke]

Doot does everything

[vestal yew]

should I wait for cocolate cookie chip to farm statues for onyx statues? I know it comes around for christmas

[potent maple]

well for the w3 mobs, they dont drop from crystals, so you can start there

[left spoke]

Yeah wait for it, it'll be way faster with chip

[keen rapids]

Does doot give the minor buffs too?

[potent maple]

check trickz's chart (in pins) and skip the crystal mob drops till chip comes out, then just go nuts

[left spoke]

idk, I don't have Doot

[granite grove]

yes, also except for purrmep for same reason

[vestal yew]

sheesh, thanks for the tips guys. Feel like I have some better direction to take my account in now

[fathom lagoon]

Gives you major & minor all day everyday

[left spoke]

@vestal yew you should active bubo to increase GT bubble

[keen rapids]

Thought it was just majors :/

Man i need a doot in my life xD

[left spoke]

Get it lv2000, it'll be easier to get class xp afterwards

[granite grove]

pay up

[fathom lagoon]

Join the dooter squad

[keen rapids]

Yh sure 5$

[granite grove]

that will be a frog and a bloque

[potent maple]

i've given lava $400 between this game and idle skilling over the years, i want a free doot

[keen rapids]

Already got more than enough of them ;D

[paper sail]

If your intent is to push 500s, go way higher than 2k Grind Time. Like, 20k - 25k ( or wait for w6)

[unborn bluff]

So I'm trying to farm eclipse skulls. But it looks like it will take forever. My kill/hour on frogs in 3mill... that seems insanely low

[left spoke]

Yeah but from 200 that's already a huge boost

[paper sail]

I'd say you're not really ready yet

[left spoke]

Do you already have every W1 mob at 100M ?

[paper sail]

My recommendation is 100m on SB first, then 100m on BB to Super CHOW, then clean up the remaining 800m once you have higher kph

[unborn bluff]

All worlds over 100m

But I guess I'll work on BB 100m first

[paper sail]

I mean it is your candy, but the figure for 12m kph is something like 12k hours of candy

So if you only have 5m on the highest map.. You probably need 30k candy hours

[hybrid spindle]

1500 boss fights worth an ancient artifact?

[paper sail]

Eclipse skulls just give damage and some improvements to monster samples. You probably still have easier, faster methods of both available to you.

[paper sail]

Imo, no.

[pearl pebble]

this isnt a gameplay question, but what is the dumbest question youve seen about idleon

[unborn bluff]

I guess I'm just not sure where to put all my dudes. Most of them are over 430 and exp just doesn't seem worth it ATM.

[daring ravine]

this

[potent maple]

[pearl pebble]

LOL

[potent maple]

i cant think of any dumb questions, but lots of people ask questions where the answer is like in the tooltip they're specifically asking about, or it's in pins, or something. but there is a lot of stuff going on so it doesn't surprise me much

[pearl pebble]

yeah i havent seen any either

theres always that ONE question every now and then that gets memed on. seen 0 here

[potent maple]

well kind of a meme question is "hey guys can you check out my IE, what do I need to work on?" and the answer is always alchemy before even pulling up the link

[pearl pebble]

i did that

lul

[manic moat]

what is the damage expectation to NM Kruk for BM and Vman? like 10T?

[teal lynx]

20-50B

[manic moat]

oh, is that all?

[fathom lagoon]

And then they cry for a real review and then cry harder when people shit on their account 😂

[teal lynx]

The Pins have a Vman guide for NM Kattle fight. BB is nearly the same

[pearl pebble]

yeah i dont get that. like i ask stupid noob questions but i listen to the answers, why argue with the experts, why ask at that point lol

[hybrid spindle]

my vman is crying in a corner with a tenth of that dmg

[teal lynx]

It will still take like 10-20 minutes with that damage. But it's not too bad

[odd stream]

Does the game run slower if I minimize the window while active compared to leaving it on screen? might just be an impression

[pearl pebble]

LMFAO BRO someone was like drag the pet into the slot and i was like wtf???

[manic moat]

I'm no where near that too.

[spice meadow]

Funny

[potent maple]

it is not an intuitive interface when you first start to be fair

[pearl pebble]

i kept hitting play and clicking pets, i was like bro.. what am i doing wrong

[paper sail]

The main reason for the auto-review bot honestly.

[potent maple]

possibly, i think so, then you get time lags where if you go back to the cloudsave screen it says you've been afk an hour on that character cuz time catches up

[pearl pebble]

which seems to be the opposite of sailing, which gets worse the more ships u have

[odd stream]

so to farm active should I keep the game on screen?

[pearl pebble]

yes

do u have autoloot

[odd stream]

bought it today

[pearl pebble]

poggers

max ur carry cap and then leave it open yeah

[odd stream]

makes sense

[potent maple]

i cant imagine getting to w5 without autoloot

[odd stream]

I'm at end of w5 lol

[potent maple]

that's so Dot

[pearl pebble]

im with thunda. wat is going on

[coral falcon]

how does the snail work for gaming?

[cyan shuttle]

art doesn't need to have a sense

[paper sail]

copypasta: The Immortal Snail is a joke on the mail system. The first big note is that the snail does not interact with ANY form of time skips. Once a day, your Snail will provide you with an Envelope. You can gamble 3 envelopes to level up your Snail, which doubles its Bit bonus. Level 1 is a 1x multi, level 2 is a 2x multi, etc. If you fail to level up your snail, you also have a small chance to RESET your Snail level back to level 1 💀 To help increase the odds of success and decrease the chance of a reset, you can Encourage the snail 1 envelope at a time to improve your odds.

Leveling up the Snail import gives a chance for the Snail to bring in 2 envelopes per day instead of 1. There is also a new Atom available in the Atom Collider that provides a safety net for resetting. The Snail resets back to a multiple of 5 per Atom level instead of all the way back to level 1 Snail. You cannot use this to cheese improving levels - Failing at level 6 won't bump you up to level 10 snail if you have 2 levels in the Atom. You will still fall back to 5. However, if you are already AT 5, you can try leveling up the snail without Encouraging it since a Reset at this point would still reset you back to 5, no change

[pastel bramble]

my eyes

[coral falcon]

hmm interesting ok

[urban gorge]

What does worship power do? Is it worth having a worship power obol set?

[manic moat]

going for a vman run, I have two nametags, one is 4% to all stats and the other has 10% multikill. Which one would benefit more?

[pearl pebble]

fax

[cyan shuttle]

worship efficiency

[paper sail]

Skill eff = more souls

[cyan shuttle]

it's useless to have more souls after a certain point

[pearl pebble]

i studied this and it said multikill is really important. but i am no expert

[urban gorge]

so..junk or get 2 sets? 1 for family and 1 for personal?

[paper sail]

1 personal is plenty. Use Slush for Hex

[desert night]

If multikill per tier, I'd say that one.

[fervent yew]

is that 10% multkill per tier? if so that will be the best one

[manic moat]

yeah, per tier

ok, thanks

[autumn wasp]

I think afk gain is better if u sample

[fervent yew]

yeah, that will be the best one, 4% all stats is great, but that extra per tier will net you way more kills and open portals faster

[manic moat]

My goal is to pass 39 portals, if I have extra time I always try to go back and sample

[desert night]

I'm trying to hold off on my next vman run until I get the eldritch fossil... but I've been at it for a week with no success so far.

[autumn wasp]

do 2 runs, 1 portal run where u try to get as far as you can, then the next day do a sample run where u just need to go to the highest boss and use the rest of the time to get ur samples

[manic moat]

yeah, I do hit a point in the distance run where I know I won't unlock, so then I just go back just before the run ends.

[upbeat trout]

best obols for vman are multikill ?

[fervent yew]

Most multikill obols are terrible as they arent per tier, they only give a flat bonus

the hyper ones arent terrible as they are per tier, but you'll likely not get many of those, best to just equip your best total damage + all stats obols and then put in as many base damage obols as you can fit to max your dps

or slap on the respective skilling obols if you're doing that

[primal bison]

What’s the best way to get lucky lad on vman. Bored bean or candy dredlo?

[paper sail]

Candy Dreadlo, usually

[fervent yew]

Candy dreadlo

[primal bison]

Guessing 12 hour plus candies?

[paper sail]

The longer, the better chance yeah

I popped a 24hr and got 2, but it is RNG

[fervent yew]

at least with dreadlo you'll also be getting mining levels and a bunch of lumberbob statues as a byproduct

[primal bison]

What’s your eff for vman mining?

[autumn wasp]

its skill speed and DR that matter

[daring ravine]

doesnt matter, just enough for 1x

[primal bison]

Roger that thanks guys

[scenic locust]

what on earth is an ulti double cog?

[fervent yew]

purple cog with 2 cogs on it

[vapid cove]

level 70 cogs and double

[scenic locust]

well that's an annoying dream

[fallen torrent]

ah bean farming. so great

[autumn wasp]

finally done w5

[fervent yew]

to do this i spent about an hour taking my best construction players out, put them all into purple cog production, then just clicked the create cog button every couple of secs

[fallen torrent]

67k power statue overnight, 6 lucky lad 155k speed/crits

[fervent yew]

i got the dream done in about an hour, and got a TONNE of +xp cogs and all teh directional cogs, so i got my construction massively buffed in doing it, so not really a time loss

[sleek ermine]

When killing a nightmare boss how many times does it hit the drop table?

[bright vine]

like 10

[sleek ermine]

i was hoping for a more knowing answer, I know its multiple haha

[fallen torrent]

doot attempt!

fk u sheepie

[sleek ermine]

It seems like its 3

[paper sail]

3

[autumn wasp]

how do people get 4k wtf

are these too low?

[paper sail]

I've never seen 4k. Just hit 3k myself

[fallen torrent]

day 10, still 1 go at printer goes brrr 😦

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[burnt sail]

We finally did it

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-my-woah-whoa-cute-gif-4765390319311889096

5 billi

[prisma drift]

Dooted?

[signal osprey]

Doot is the true answer to 4k ladles

[prisma drift]

I’m at like 3300 ladles a day

[signal osprey]

If I had snake/10 goats I would go from my current 3.2k to 4.1k

[prisma drift]

Going for 3500

[paper sail]

No doot for me, no 😦

[prisma drift]

[paper sail]

Brb let me add donations on the bot to crowdfund my doot

How did the alts go last night, @signal osprey ?

[signal osprey]

Only a few more levels to go for 5th character unlock

[paper sail]

Not too shabby for a single night

Finally making your first non-warrior?

[signal osprey]

4 warriors

[paper sail]

Right from the get-go

[fathom lagoon]

Just hit 900 ladles/day

At 40k total ladles. Should have 100k by the time I unlock that equinox challenge. Lowkey kind of stuck with my current challenges w maxed buffs/bar too

[paper sail]

Silly question: How long is Wizard's charge steal CD? I've never had a scenario to use it more than once a week, but I might soon

[signal osprey]

Its like an hour or two

[fathom lagoon]

Vengeful grandfrogger, lvl 300 construction (177/300), shrines 129/140, double ulti cog (30/48) and greenstack (45/75)

[velvet hedge]

Guys do I prioritise Divinity over Lab?` - Just unlocked w5

[paper sail]

Could be worse, I suppose. My last 3 viable vials are Copper Bar, Iron Bar, and Red Souls.

[teal lynx]

Divinity will eventually give you an upgrade that lets you get both Lab and Divinity Progress at the same time

Oh yeah. You should probably check out the Pins to get a Divinity guide
There is also a recommended "path" u should take. Aka unlock up to Goharut

[velvet hedge]

Let me find that

found it

[tall horizon]

30-45 minutes

[paper sail]

I can't wait to be free of Div jail on my alt. Arrived October 10th. Just got offered 100% goat after failing it for about 3 weeks straight. Another 8 days to go

[tall horizon]

cant recall exactly, but sub 1hr

[paper sail]

Not too bad. I can probably dump candy on SB until full charge and steal it for red souls without much downtime or waste 🙏

[tall horizon]

oh its 1hr base and then reduced because of cdr

[paper sail]

Maybe have to alternate stealing on both ES lol

[tall horizon]

If you have 2 es, you can juggle the siphons if you need more time

[paper sail]

True efficiency is double stealing, yeah? Don't you steal more than 100% after some book level

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure that doesnt actually work

[paper sail]

Bummer

I'll try to find how Charge is stored in the save file and do a test later

[tall horizon]

ya just does 100%

if we could get more, would be broken infinite energy with 2x es

[paper sail]

Right

No waste is nice, at least

And I have enough lab chips to fully equip sb and 1 es at a time for using charge Procrastination wins again

[signal osprey]

GGNewbs has the golden anvil. Endgame in no time at this rate

[true gull]

or you can have chars in lab also gaining devinity....

[bright vine]

I saw people saying they were able to snapshot con obols, anyone know how is that done?

[teal lynx]

They don't have Goat yet

[true gull]

then yeah id 100% push to goat befor touching lab

i pushed my cars to lvl 75 lab at the same time as pushing devinity to the afk exp style

[teal lynx]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

You don't have to check Cog Page on your non-active character

[bright vine]

thanks

So my main DK would be able to upgrade buildings while farming active, as long as I don't look at cogs?

[teal lynx]

Yes

[bright vine]

amazin

Will just dump the obols on second bubo or something

[pearl cedar]

In w3 yet?

[teal lynx]

You can Snapshot personal and family Obols if you want for more gains. But it will take some time switching your Family Obols all the time

[bright vine]

This works only with con obols right? no other?

[teal lynx]

Uhh not sure. Card drop obols maybe work

[signal osprey]

Not even close lol

[bright vine]

is getting 425 on vman and bm much slower than the other characters?

[humble wharf]

how do you sample red frisbee

[true gull]

high drop rate

and spam samples

[pearl cedar]

High afk and respawn and dmg

[paper sail]

Drop rate has no interaction with sampling.

[true gull]

multikill helps it too

[pearl cedar]

And a vman speedrun makes it easy

[dim wind]

I thought 10k def was pretty decent, but only 8 shimmers?

[fallow aurora]

sigils are always active after u unlock them right? even if u disconnect sigils from lab

[true gull]

frisby is like the 1 rare drop multi helps w

[pearl cedar]

300k or something required for 40 shimmers

[pearl cedar]

Cause it's not a rare drop

[humble wharf]

how do people unlock all sigils its like 300000+

[dim wind]

patiently

[true gull]

well rare ish

its rare but its the wood mushs first drop

[humble wharf]

2443*1.5

[dim wind]

almost there now though

[bright vine]

You don't train your alch levels?

[paper sail]

[dim wind]

never actived bubo

[bright vine]

crazy

[humble wharf]

whats your water regen rate

[sacred verge]

😿

[humble wharf]

mine is 38 29 32

[sacred verge]

so low regen 😎

[humble wharf]

whats yours

[paper sail]

We talkin' lab node on or off?

[sacred verge]

like 80 + without the lab node

[humble wharf]

how

[dim wind]

hah, 8 shimmers was enough to get the book

[sacred verge]

we dont wanto know your rate scoli!!!!

😛

[paper sail]

It is worse than yours

[sacred verge]

nonono

[bright vine]

hate you

[sacred verge]

its slightly better iirc

[bright vine]

im 100 shimmers + dry

[dim wind]

I did waste all other shimmers from previous weeks on it too though ❤️

[prisma drift]

Imagine wasting 100 shimmers on an OK book when you could have had more eff

[paper sail]

With lab node on right now

[sacred verge]

im at like 85 something like that with node off

[bright vine]

Your GT is 30k or something?

[sacred verge]

😭

[prisma drift]

Triple dragon cauldrons

[paper sail]

20.4k

[sacred verge]

you got the sigil tho?

[paper sail]

I wish 😦 Only 1

[bright vine]

crazy

[paper sail]

First rank only

[humble wharf]

how

[prisma drift]

Dang you keep your other cauldrons close on level

[sacred verge]

first rank still good

[humble wharf]

whats your couldren lvl rate

[paper sail]

360 - 390

[sacred verge]

you guys need to bubo more

[prisma drift]

Too busy at beans

[pearl cedar]

Stamp not bad

[prisma drift]

Says the guy with QQ dps

Looking like some peoples cooking speed

[rough wasp]

bro acting like QQ DPS is casual

[paper sail]

QQ cooking speed is tiny tho :c

[prisma drift]

I’m almost at e38

[humble wharf]

worms is best map for bubo?

[bright vine]

Which chips are better, damage, MK, respawn, poker and basic attack chip? and if you have a rough idea which order are they better in?

[rough wasp]

higher than most people tho

[paper sail]

Is it?

Isn't qq only e24

[pearl cedar]

Most people are prob pre vman so yeah

[paper sail]

Am I that jaded lol

[prisma drift]

Too good at the game

[paper sail]

e37 and still plenty to grow

[rough wasp]

You don't live in the depths of w3 chat like me and @prisma drift

[dim wind]

what class would be best to try and dps there?

[paper sail]

I was already on my way to take the ss before you asked lol

[prisma drift]

Nice speed upgrade

[rough wasp]

Scoli join monkey and contract on their adventures

[pearl cedar]

It depends if you're smart and didn't push qs like me. Then probably ES. If you memed quickslap then SB

[dusty sand]

Why does everyone say to farm power statues at beans for the crystal mobs? When I can just go to slimes or snakes and have the same effect and they habe power staues as rare drops. With ES portal I get a higher droprate for the rare drops and get the effect with the crystal mobs?

[dim wind]

Thanks 🙂

[bright vine]

dk > es for powers by a wide margin

[rough wasp]

cus they have alot of nutrients

[paper sail]

Simply put, the starting drop rate from a Crystal Carrot is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY higher

[pearl cedar]

Lol ain't no way you're outfarming powerstatues with ES unless you don't have chocco chip

[dusty sand]

I dont have choco

[rough wasp]

Some people have really bad DR+crystal rate too

[paper sail]

Should be pretty obvious from the numbers

[dusty sand]

that makes sense

[dusty sand]

what is considered a bad crystal rate?

[paper sail]

Literally 100x better drop rate on a crystal carrot than a baby boa lol

[pearl cedar]

Well then maybe. But i would think even without that DK would be best though maybe not at beans not sure though

[true gull]

choco comes back end of january so be prepared

[rough wasp]

its bad buddha

[zealous niche]

1 in 100+

[dusty sand]

still get way more power statues with es portal tbh

[true gull]

like jan 27 i beleive

[rough wasp]

Well, both are bad so I don't think they should be doing onyx

[paper sail]

The only way that is true is if your crystal chance is bad (over 1 in 100 chance) and/or you have no Chocco Chip.

[pearl cedar]

Prob better off buying the 5 powerstatues a day at w1 shop

[bright vine]

or not using orb skill

[dusty sand]

you know the cost for choco?

[true gull]

1 in 30-40

[zealous niche]

1 in 50 or lower to put an arbitrary number on it

[pearl cedar]

Anything below 1 in 32 is pretty good

[zealous niche]

Lower the better, max on non-vman is 1 in 25 iirc

[dusty sand]

Yeah I have no choco and a 1 in 110 chance

[rough wasp]

Think someone in w3 chat did carrotman and it took 3 days?, and another with ~1-50 crystal/10x DR with choco is ~2 days

[zealous niche]

You’d be better off fixing that and then coming back to statue farming

[paper sail]

My condolences. Statue farming at that rate must be miserable

[zealous niche]

Many statues are fastest through crystals

[true gull]

200k pinion spur (anvil) 100 cheese 100 beach docks spice

[dusty sand]

Right know I get about 1k power statues with es portal active play at snakes

[bright vine]

thats quite low

[true gull]

and its either dec 27 or jan 27 one of the 2 lol

[zealous niche]

In what timeframe

[bright vine]

but not unreasonable

[dusty sand]

1 hour

[zealous niche]

Hm, low but feasible

You need 200k all up

[paper sail]

Too bad you don't get any of the other statues at the same time 😦

[dusty sand]

have them both plat

[bright vine]

I farmed DK statues first time getting about 1k per hour

now at about 7k ph

[zealous niche]

Can you cardify ruby without the rift?

[true gull]

or just dont rush it you will get max rift eventually and can ruby card them free

[dusty sand]

right know I just want to unlock the thing bc I have for almost all the skill statues the 20k

[bright vine]

You can't get more than 1m red salts? I upgraded 3 times and my max stayed the same

?

[paper sail]

The power cost caps at 1m to rank up, correct

[true gull]

just the cap stays the same i beleive

[zealous niche]

It doesn’t go over 1m, but the gathering rate still goes up

[bright vine]

oh, thats good

[zealous niche]

So you’ll get ranks faster and faster now

[paper sail]

Yep. After 22, each rank gets faster instead of slower

[hybrid spindle]

I'm kind of losing it right now. How much speed do you need to get compared to the island distance for 2h trips? 50% 100% or 200%? 👀

[zealous niche]

50%

[paper sail]

If you're looking at boat speed, you need half the island distance.

[true gull]

use idleon efficency lol

[zealous niche]

Distance is the return trip to the island

[paper sail]

A boat with 50m speed can reach the final 100m island roundtrip in 2 hours

[hybrid spindle]

alright, so no more speed upgrades necessary

[paper sail]

Depending how often you check, nope

Remember there are several decreases to minimum sail time. Mine is 97 minutes, not 120

Because of that, I need 62m instead of 50m to reach the final island and back in 97 minutes

[true gull]

meh minimal time effects are extreamly minimal lol

[paper sail]

20% off is pretty big imo but sure

[hybrid spindle]

....i have 99m so I need some more as well :/

[paper sail]

Numbers for 99m roundtrips

60.6m for final island

[hybrid spindle]

are boats capped at 300 levels, or can you level them beyond that?

[paper sail]

Not capped at 300, but 300 is the last Visual change to the boat

[cyan hazel]

My IE says my minimum sail time is 96 mins so I would need even more speed than you to reach final island in 2 hours @paper sail ?

[hybrid spindle]

I'm really tempted to get artifact chance on everyone. I can't get fury and causticolumn for the love of me...

[paper sail]

Not in 2 hours, but in 96minutes yes. You need 62.5m instead of the base 50m for 2hr roundtrips.

[bright vine]

artifact chance wont really help much

[cyan hazel]

Legend

[hybrid spindle]

even that one would triple my odds and there are certainly better ones

[cyan hazel]

So, I need to see that number on the boat in the Sailing captain/boat menu right? I have noticed alot of variances between the game, IE and toolbox as to what my speed/loot is supposed to be @paper sail

[hybrid spindle]

that's the only thing I can think of because the artifact chance bonus from the island is timegated behind bottles.

[bright vine]

its additive

so if you have 5x odds, it will only add about 2% more

or so I heard

[hybrid spindle]

are there even so many sources to get to 5x?

[paper sail]

Correct. Different areas of IE/IT show different combos (i.e Boat only, boat+captain, calculated 2hr trip of boat+captain)

[bright vine]

im at 5x without any sources

[hybrid spindle]

I only know of 3 sources. the artifact, the island bonus, and captains. anything else I'm missing?

[cyan hazel]

Yeah, ie for example, the numbers don't match between the game and the part that shows my boats with their bonuses. Don't understand that lol

[true gull]

shiny pets has minimal ones

[hybrid spindle]

not much to do then because I'm at 4x as well without having the island bonus. With it, I'd be around 5x as well

[hollow osprey]

it's so weird my power statue drop went from 600/h to 100/h without changing anything

[raw tundra]

i just got the boy

only these two i do have over 25 nillion

[bright vine]

welcome to endgameish

[prisma drift]

Mid game

[fathom lagoon]

Is platinum twine used for anything? Or should I pop em

[raw tundra]

according to what people say i shouldn't be even mid game. and i am too causal. i reached world 4 hwen characters were 100 levels.

this be the damage of my pusher

[raw tundra]

and i don't have void walkah

[paper sail]

Stash them all, join the anti-trust group

[prisma drift]

Lava gonna make the w6 gear cost 1K plat twine each

[paper sail]

Just in case

[fathom lagoon]

Aight bet imma keep mine

[fathom lagoon]

I’d say you’re early game still lol

[deft pelican]

is this becasue gold twine gave you trust issues

[raw tundra]

gotta stash anything stackable and pray no lucky lad kind of item is needed one day

[raw tundra]

yeah, no way getting collider is the marking of mid game

i wish to be mid game before 6 world drops but that is a dream

[paper sail]

Mid game to me is when you've unlocked all available maps

[fathom lagoon]

Was gonna say either that or can beat NM kruk

[prisma drift]

Eh beating Nkruk I’d say is early late game

Definitely not close to endgame tho

You need a good amount of dmg to do Nkruk

[fathom lagoon]

I’ll take that

I consider myself mid game cause there’s prob lots to do still alch wise for me. But I got 50b dmg so I can take out Nkruk w some time lol

[prisma drift]

If you atom quick slap your dmg is fake

[summer glacier]

is there a class that can farm efaunt on auto

[prisma drift]

So it doesn’t count

[fathom lagoon]

My QS lvl 84, not even atom able rn lol

[sacred verge]

Nkruk is at best midgame

[prisma drift]

Y’all greatly overestimate the average player

[fathom lagoon]

Yea that’s what we’re saying. The marker for mid game

Or Hogg saying early late game

[prisma drift]

Go hang out in w3-4 chat and you’ll see what mid game is lol

[sacred verge]

i think what hogg is trying to say is early game

😛

i did hang out in w3-4 chat today

[fathom lagoon]

I stopped by w1 chat the other day and oh man. Funny stuff to read

[paper sail]

That's why I have map unlocks as my early game marker. No real decisions needed, just braindead "me go next map"

[fathom lagoon]

Also I’m pretty sure there was like a 12 year old in here yest so I need to remind myself there’s legit kids playing the game lmao

[obtuse rover]

Midgame is a very broad range in Idleon.

[sacred verge]

id say getting to nkruk is just "w5"

dosent define any stage at game

atleast a very poor indicator

[raw tundra]

how to increase damage? idle skilling potion stuff was much easier than whatever alechmy in idleon got going

[paper sail]

There are plenty of people who beat nkruk on auto for 8 hours so I can't use that as any sort of indicator 😂

[sacred verge]

yeah

[fathom lagoon]

Lmfao 8 hours

[raw tundra]

by the way conisdering i got only two 10m stacks and both are around 40m and used for red salts is it logical to open accelerator

[summer glacier]

split into multiple stacks > open > increase limit to 1050m > put it back in one stack

[true gull]

your best resorses for atom collider will be bronze ore the first logs and spore caps

[obtuse rover]

Just leave the atom collider permanently turned off and set to the maximum cutoff of 1050M

It will actually still work even when turned off for any stack about 1050M and you have some protection against accidentally clicking and changing the limit and losing items you still wanted.

[true gull]

plus you will basically be hard capped for your power of 10 skills

if you get 1050m stacks

[daring ravine]

limit is 1050m per stack in storage
you can have multiple of them

[true gull]

yeah but the benifits deminish alot

so more so soft cap

[obtuse rover]

Hardcore people will have 10 stacks of oak and copper in their storage

[obtuse rover]

I've never heard of someone actually keeping 100 stacks in storage. It'd get in the way of greenstacks.

[paper sail]

Color me casual

[true gull]

yeah aint no one got storage capacity for more than 1 green stack

[paper sail]

I have almost 50 free spots, but definitely not 198 free spots for both 100 copper and 100 oak lol

[true gull]

too many twines to stockpile

[sacred verge]

im a casual

youre a casual +

[raw tundra]

i meant

losing items faster than i can obtain them. i am early game. IS THAT an issue or not? sounds like an issue according to what you write

also how much does it take to turn into atoms?