lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[void pulsar]

is that normal? T.T

[pearl pebble]

i think u have to put 1 point into the thing that gives u the points

[void pulsar]

u so right tyty

[pearl pebble]

ur welcome

im trying to unlock this vman right now lmao

[void pulsar]

is vman's "master of the system" strong?

[soft chasm]

Making any progress in alchemy is getting painful....

Do I need to be active Bubbo'ing?

If so... is there a guide anywhere for the best setup, 'cus some of those skills seem like a mess.

[soft chasm]

uh... As someone who's bearly unlcoked it, highscore 23, it gives like, 26%/tier at level 100. So..... Yeah, it's a decent amount.

[void pulsar]

gotchu gotchu

[devout turtle]

How many quest for void walker

[little hazel]

Currently at 1b damage and fighting chaotic cruk. Why did I do this. It has been 30 minutes already.

I know this is a question channel, but I am really questioning myself

[sleek ermine]

i fought nightmare kruk on 5 different characters that took 10 minutes aprox

all active

[little hazel]

My chaos kruk still has 711607B health left.

new ideas channel. Nightmare and Chaotic boss dungeons party with loot roll.

[tight vapor]

Do the suggma's have a higher crystal mob chance or is it something else?

[little hazel]

Did you fight them on your first active kill of the day?

Cause based on a few things your first kills will spawn crystals

[tight vapor]

Yeah

[little hazel]

With lab, maybe even more

[plucky oyster]

for the divine set I need to kill katt on 6 players but Its really hard to reach it on 6 players because you can't use candy what method should I use to do this

[violet star]

There's no way around this :/ u could use nobisect on all for faster portal unlocks. Also maybe stack kpk as much as possible

[muted bramble]

working on eclips is cool i guess ...

[void pulsar]

why do people want full boards of the time plants?

[plucky oyster]

thats massive rip :\

[muted bramble]

cause of the eclips quest

need 15 chemical plants on the board

[void pulsar]

ooooh

[violet star]

Takes a while but it's not too too bad. Got 3 chars there atm :p

Speed always depends on what u got though

[slender sandal]

mess with your setups for afk gains/etc or just hard focus everything (if you're short) onto one character at a time while you have the other focus on alchemy gains/etc. if you're struggling to get through those stages in a reasonable time then you should have a lot of low hanging fruit for account gains/damage/etc

[half thistle]

How do you active AFK in browser? Wheenver I switch back to the tab it tells me I've been afk. Or is that a browser settings thing

[uncut hull]

try opening the game on steam. hope that helps 👍🏻

[teal lynx]

Haven't played on browser, but you could open 2 seperate browsers and have IdleOn running in the second browser behind your first

[half thistle]

Oooh, I guess if it's always the top tab in the window maybe it won't fall asleep? I 'll try it.

[half thistle]

Nah, the issue is I want to leave my steam library free for friends to play games with it via family share.

[hollow crater]

Does harriep + lab give 6x or 5x?

[uncut hull]

it's okay jus playin

but yeah if separating it into 2 windows doesn't help do try opening it in a different browser

[half thistle]

Fair enough

[wooden dust]

what should i buy with gems ?

[steady spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1103690013125902336/tonysgemshoptierlistv4.png

[rain echo]

how much damage do you need on vman for nightmare kattlecruk?

or is there a special strategy?

[craggy fern]

pinned

[paper summit]

Is there any reason I can't get the rare material from snowy south Island in sailing do I need to hit a specific loot threshold?

[clever narwhal]

Asking here since I've never had an answer to anything in gen chat:

Was the steam/mobile cloudsave bug fixed? Losing talent pages etc? Wanna do some steam achievements and active farming, but still wanna use my phone

[prisma drift]

No and it won’t be

[clever narwhal]

F

[prisma drift]

The game saves some stuff on the device you play on

If you play both consistently it’s not a real issue

They stop resetting once you set everything up on steam and mobile

I play both

[clever narwhal]

Oh so steam will remain the same on steam and so on

ooooh

[prisma drift]

I used to use it as a free talent reset haha

[clever narwhal]

So it'll be different from my pc/laptop as well then?

just to be sure

[prisma drift]

Should be

[clever narwhal]

And so it begins...

Did go from 19 to 31 achievements in 1 second

[tight vapor]

Do I get the ancient version of the artifact the same way as the others or differently

[magic oyster]

I notice a few people having success with TD levels >130 with lightning towers, but trying it out, they seem to have damage low enough that they can't hold things off krakens even at much lower levels - am I missing something ? Lightning tower is 76, so it's not exactly low level

[zealous niche]

Same, but lower chance

The third form, eldritch (blanking on the name), needs you to get to a certain rift threshold first, then it’s the same but lower chance again

[zealous niche]

Lightning towers are good for giving crits to other towers, that’s probably what they’re being used for

They can make poison clouds crit

[bright current]

if i green stack statues, that essentially locks me out of ever clicking the "deposit all" button doesnt it, unless i put em on a diff character or somethin?

thank you tick reactor, i love you

[steady beacon]

Does the forge progress SB skill also count afk kills?

[magic oyster]

I don't think that is it, at least the math of 6 lightning towers and one poison tower doesn't make sense if it is just for the crit. They only increase crit chance, not crit damage right?

[violet star]

Yes and it works even better than active

[pastel bramble]

the pain of having a big one

[tropic kiln]

Does chem give mails from snail or is it only daily

[short dirge]

daily

[tropic kiln]

😭

[safe harness]

is there a way to have printer over flow and not convert to atoms? I am no where near hourly clicks but I want the resource to move to another stack even if i have to manually prep it. Is this possible or will it just fill the first to 1050 and then convert rest to atoms?

ie, would the stacks on left continue to fill if i set it this way or would stack 1 hit 1050 and then convert rest to atoms?

[magic fjord]

Re gaming, I assume once you get to a certain point you should just leave Kitsune on?

[pastel bramble]

always does left first so yes u can have multiple stacks

then combine stacks if u wanna atomize them after finishing ur prints

[bold quiver]

only if u are very active

[safe harness]

neat, that will make this way more efficient as im not at a stage where atoms are efficient for what im doing...thanks for response

[bold quiver]

it wont fill

[safe harness]

o dang, o well...

[pastel bramble]

its hard to keep up when active at certain point, i get 5-10 plants every 5 seconds haha when rock is on

[bold quiver]

there was a way to overflow prints but rule 4 (and it has been fixed)

[safe harness]

i assume rule 4 is exploiting?

[bold quiver]

its one of the things in there

[safe harness]

yeah, im not about that life

[pastel bramble]

ur build worked thanks 😄

it was a bit sketchy at 120 though because i had 300 mobs at one point alive i was kicking and rooting like crazy 😂

[hidden osprey]

is it ok for me to leave divinity after i got everyone to 40 and unlocked all of the gods except flutterbis?

[urban pond]

how to loot them obols?

[worn sonnet]

make them

the 2 red ones are gem shop one

the eye and the helmet are random events

[sleek ermine]

I wonder how long is "not soon" for lava

[wraith thicket]

Some months? 🤔

[lilac path]

go w1 crow type in
Give me hat
to get hard hat

[sleek ermine]

I cant wait some months

I need w6 this year

[lilac path]

make 1 tab 2

[tacit tulip]

If you wanna take a break from divinity nows a good time to do it. You can come back later when you have some more exp/points buffs

you might find need to use goat and level lab anyway, but 😄

[bold quiver]

idk why u grinded to div 40 but sure

the ideal way is unlocking omniphau, then ditching divinity lvls until u can grind from lvl 15-20 to 40 in a few days

and u wont even stop at 40, u will just push gods since u will be getting a ton of points

[hidden osprey]

so i could unlock the tranqi style

[proven basin]

can someone explain this? can es' link to 2 gods?

[hidden osprey]

to generate div when not on altar

[bold quiver]

link 1 god on altar 1 god on skill

[hidden osprey]

also got some lab levels when i was doing that

[bold quiver]

how long did it take u to get to divinity 40

[hidden osprey]

idk like a month or less

i wasnt on the divinity on my barb

was cooking in the meantime

[bold quiver]

cool

[hidden osprey]

so i got some meals/vials that boosted my divinity exp

[bold quiver]

hmm i see

[tulip kayak]

1 more island max

[bold quiver]

i never grinded to div 40 so i dont rly know

[proven basin]

i dont get it, can you explain how the skill works?

[bold quiver]

use the skill, no secret

[hidden osprey]

but from all of w4 skills my breeding kinda sucks

[bold quiver]

when i leveled divinity i just pushed to 60 in like, 5 days

[tulip kayak]

already got 2 on this one 😄

[hidden osprey]

dont have enough pet power to forage some of the last zones and i could easily use 1 laddle or so to get the rest of the meals to lvl 11

and i cant hatch anything above 15k pet power

so im time gated on that

[bold quiver]

damn

need very strong pets to get last spice

[hidden osprey]

my blooming axe is on lvl 4

[bold quiver]

have u tried dif comp for spice?

u should do that XD

[hidden osprey]

im on targeter > miasma > forager > fleeter

and some whales on the spices that are not that useful

[proud pumice]

can you show your collection? we're pratically the same lol

[bold quiver]

oh arent u finished on pet arena and spices battles?

[proven basin]

how tho

[hidden osprey]

i finished pet arena and i have the last spice battle to go

[bold quiver]

u open the game. Click talents, go to skill and level it up

[bold quiver]

why is your team comp on spices without burger then

[hidden osprey]

well idk xD

im on that point

[proud pumice]

the skill doesn't work on lvl 0. Every lvl that ends with a 0 connects to snake god, ends with a 1 connects to bear god, ...

[hidden osprey]

in the guide

[bold quiver]

well i guess if u are ok with that

🫡

[proven basin]

finally an actual answer,thanks

[bold quiver]

gimme your mouse so i can click for u (and im the lazy one)

[proven basin]

...

[ionic dock]

What do i need to do to make this work?

[bold quiver]

nothing

[hidden osprey]

reopen the zone

[lyric sequoia]

There’s not many ways to interpet “links to a second god”, shouldn’t be that hard to figure out on your own

[ionic dock]

Epic thxI

[bold quiver]

its hard to figure when u are too lazy to click the skill by yourself

[ionic dock]

These artifacts are crazy good wth

[bold quiver]

what if u click and breaks the game

[tulip kayak]

sure one sec

im jealous of ur fury

[proud pumice]

yeah that's the best one

[tulip kayak]

ur slightly ahead of me

[worn sonnet]

That's a sad twine

[proud pumice]

i was gonna say to go for it, but i guess you're already going

[worn sonnet]

Not even ancient

[tulip kayak]

ill get it soon

[tulip kayak]

yeah like half my ships are on it

[proud pumice]

it was the same for me

[tulip kayak]

7 ppl on it rn

[lyric sequoia]

Getting at least ancient pedestal for plates is a good idea too since vman cooking speed will very quickly snowball you way over plate lvl 40 once you start super chowing

[hidden osprey]

@bold quiver whats ur breeding lvl?

[clear parcel]

are zen cogs worth it?

[bold quiver]

76

[proven basin]

does skilled dimwit prayer reduce divinity xp gain?

[pine yacht]

no, but efficiency doesnt work on div either

[proven basin]

ty

[hybrid spindle]

no time to superchow if you got ladles to produce 👀

[pure ether]

what class should my third mage be?

[bold quiver]

wizard

[pine yacht]

20k/100k

[pure ether]

why?

[pine yacht]

2nd bubo provides next to no value

[hybrid spindle]

35k/100k :/

[bold quiver]

2nd god link

[pure ether]

ok ty

[pine yacht]

I wonder if I should gamba for chips...

[hybrid spindle]

whatcha hopin for?

[pine yacht]

any doubler

or skill eff % ones for ladles XD

for refference here's what I have

[lyric sequoia]

Sounds like a “I have no elite swap tokens” skill issue to me

[pine yacht]

ye, just swap all your DKs to BBs for a week

[lyric sequoia]

Or just 1, chow on the 1 you want to keep as BB and cook on the other

[hybrid spindle]

yes. I only got one left and I'm keeping that in preparation for the future

[cyan shuttle]

how are you w5 guys doing

[lyric sequoia]

Don’t want to completely gimp cons for a bit

Doesn’t actually really matter if your DKs are later on than your main BB either really, since you’d be swapping back

[pine yacht]

very good, w6 TD guide when btw

[cyan shuttle]

[pine yacht]

I want it before w6 release, so I can prepare... mentally

[lyric sequoia]

3 poison, 1 void, 5/6 parties, cycle the line of 1 frozone to 3 kraken until you can't afford or have 2 frozones. You're wellcome

[daring moat]

Choice overload

[cyan shuttle]

watch how w6 won't have any long line

also frozone can chill with 4 krakens

[daring moat]

Or what do they call it.. choice paralysis?

[lyric sequoia]

Well lava does have a track record of not learning from his mistakes, and cans has that problem

[cyan shuttle]

well not really

there's a very long line and even the right direction

[lyric sequoia]

The order of movement between platforms always confuses me on cans and I refuse to learn the route

[cyan shuttle]

well you can ignore it until they go on the line on top lol

if w6 is like cans but without the long line

then it's a problem

[signal osprey]

W6 TD is gonna be basically just the second half of waka TD

[spring raptor]

I wanna know when we're getting world 5 pets

[wise smelt]

guys there is picrure for print with all tips for max sample?

[pearl pebble]

weird question. sailing said i unlocked this new artifact, it looked like some golden warriors horn but i dont see it anywhere in my relics list or wiki. so wtf was that?

[tacit tulip]

man I was hoping moustaches would be better for this

[teal lynx]

Like this but golden? You probably just got the Ancient Form. It basically doubles the effect

[hollow osprey]

which PO box should i max on dk after drop, mining and construction?

[frigid acorn]

mana

[hollow osprey]

ty

the health one not needed?

thought it would be useful for mining gains

[tacit tulip]

round 2 was a bit better but...

[teal lynx]

Health PO is also pretty good, but Mana will give you more Orbs + Statues -> More Pens for (technically) infinite boxes

[hollow osprey]

tyty

[left spoke]

What's the best thing to sample with BM ?

[hollow osprey]

what about the other classes?

maxed both specialized skills everywhere but i'm not sure what a good 3rd box would be

and i maxed alch on bubo

[teal lynx]

I farmed Boxes and just maxed everything. Active Classes want drop and Mana PO Boxes

[hollow osprey]

alright that's gtk ty

afk classes want fight i assume? for more afk gains

[teal lynx]

Food is nice if you don't already cap your mining/chopping speed
Fight for afk gains is nice as you said
I personally like cons for the extra shrine charge rate - not sure if it's additive or multi with the Equinox Catch Vial

[hollow osprey]

alright thank you for your help

[uncut hull]

don't do Mana boxes on your DK

[teal lynx]

If you get over 300 talent then no mana

[left spoke]

Is it important to max that star talent ?

[teal lynx]

But I know for sure that they have 180 Orb

[left spoke]

Or does it increase the printer sample rate (that cap at 90%) ?

[uncut hull]

oh yeah forgot about PO reset

yeah just go nuts

mb

[teal lynx]

Most people are also nowhere near 300 Orb in this channel

[uncut hull]

ill be there when fury decides to finally give up the eldritch goods

[slender sandal]

[teal lynx]

I need Bear for 300+ Orb, but I can't do that before I resample. Hariep giving me that juice hourly clicks

[uncut hull]

I resampled logs earlier this week and accidentally linked to goat instead of hare. feels bad

[sacred verge]

hehe

[keen rapids]

You can relink twice a week O-o

[uncut hull]

already used both of em

[pine yacht]

time to spend 10k gems on killroy runs

[tacit tulip]

a shame you can only reset once a week or I would

[pine yacht]

XD

[teal lynx]

Finally done with the Useful Artifacts

[tacit tulip]

Just dumping 4 points into time a week until I get it

[pine yacht]

poor eye... no one likes it

I've been stuck on dream catcher for 2+ weeks now

[teal lynx]

I gave up on Dreamcatcher and went for the later Islands. Couldn't get Dream for a month Straight

[pine yacht]

I mean the only sizable increase would be eld steak

maybe rock as well but that's about it

[craggy fern]

is it worth to boost the underdeveloped cost bubble since it puts things out of atom range?

[naive zodiac]

if i connect to lab will it give me the same divinity points and exp gain as being on divinity

[pine yacht]

I mean... just get them back in range

[craggy fern]

well for the salts its kinda shitty

or the critters and anvil mats

[pine yacht]

atom them without utilizing class discount until they are in range with class discount

[random saddle]

uhm with doot i still need to sit on div for gains?

or i jsut put in the highest div since everyone is in lab perma

[prisma drift]

Div levels boosts the minor link bonus

So still good to do some praying

[burnt sail]

Roast me / help me figure out where to focus. Just finished eclipse skulls, going for some key stamps for a bit now (crystallin, mason jar, matty bag, etc.)

https://babybell.idleonefficiency.com/

[teal lynx]

Goat only gives you Div gains if you are physically in Lab. So if you want Div gains you should put those people in Lab
Active in Lab ≠ Connected to Lab

[keen rapids]

Finish salt lick man

god damn

bro's been skipping it

[pearl pebble]

i have just unlocked the atom collider. does it work with the same resource multiple times

i want to unlock the first two upgrades but unsure if it is worth it or not.

[burnt sail]

I just retrapped mouseys so I could, big oops for sure. 😂

[keen rapids]

Also why aren't you constructing shines like even clover is only 63/100?

[ornate zinc]

How rare are ancient artifacts

[burnt sail]

Was just trying to pump towers to 95% reduction so I could work on TD tbh

[burnt sail]

Rarer than normal, less rare than eldritch.

[pine yacht]

why the fuck is meta shifting to active BM ...

[keen rapids]

shinies

[pearl pebble]

lol is it actually

[pine yacht]

I know why... but WHY ????

imma need 4 computers for this fucking game

[keen rapids]

I'm guessing it's because of these but for w6 soon perks

[pine yacht]

wait... 5... active on SB, BM, DK, Bubo and ES XD

[keen rapids]

Apparently someones already hit lvl 10 😭

[teal lynx]

Meta is not shifting to active BM. You can do it if you have nothing else to do

[pine yacht]

I do, but I want shiny progress TT_TT

I have so much shit to do, that by the time I actually get to BM W8 will be out XD

[keen rapids]

Also why are your rings not all opal?? and probably change your scarfs all to the divine one + why don't all your chars have a sparkle obol? and your chips are just missing on most of them??? and the easier achievements on like w1 w2 w3 you just haven't bothered to do

[pearl pebble]

i turned the atom collider on and it didnt convert my stack. how long does it take

[pine yacht]

are you watching it really closely ?

if the answer is yes, then you're doing it wrong XD

[teal lynx]

I suppose you turned your collider to 15m?
It will convert everything above that to atoms. So 25m would be one atom. It will give you partial particles (0.1 particle) and stuff, but it won't show
So make sure you have enough resources, reload the map/cloud save and look at it again

[pearl pebble]

yeah im just sitting here on the atom screen like hurrdurr

[pine yacht]

you need to restart the map or leave it for it to work tho

[pearl pebble]

left map and came back still didnt work, hm

[teal lynx]

Can you screenshot your atom collider screen and the resource in your storage that you want to convert?

[pine yacht]

[pearl pebble]

yes its on

[teal lynx]

ABOVE 15M will be converted

[pearl pebble]

wtf wait it was 24M

[teal lynx]

Your stacks never going below 15

[pearl pebble]

am i seeing things omfg.

[pearl pebble]

so that means that it will convert once it reaches 15M, or when it will leave me at 15M

[teal lynx]

It converts everything above 15m. Your stack will never go below that value

[elfin cape]

Never, ever, EVER turn collider on and below 1050M

[burnt sail]

I don't have chips. 😦 Have to wait for rotations or get on that gem farm.

Appreciate the advice!

[pearl pebble]

wait why not? do i not want to turn it on just to unlock the first upgrade?

i went ahead and set it to 1050M

[keen rapids]

Anytime man D: , rather odd you don't have chips imo

[pearl pebble]

btw im like a major noob compared to everyone else here. i dont have much resources

[elfin cape]

It works even while off, and there's a higher chance of accidentaly setting it to 10M and murderding all your stacks

[pearl pebble]

oh god lol

[untold lintel]

youre w5?

[pearl pebble]

that misclick sounds fun

[pearl pebble]

yes. i was w5 with like 1/100th of these stacks

trickzbunny roasted my IE and now its not as bad as before

i remember when i got to w5, i was printing like 300 mush caps max

[spice meadow]

I guess im the noob of noobs then

[pearl pebble]

not for long XD

[spice meadow]

Literally only have copper greenstacked lol

[pearl pebble]

yeaaa.. it took me 2 weeks to greenstack all of that

i just did it for equinox

[spice meadow]

Smart

The equinox grind is real

The true endgame, lol

[pine yacht]

true end game is BM active

[paper sail]

Equinox has about 2 months of content left, and only because it is severely tinegated

[slender sandal]

unless you're a future sight pickle chad that bought them daily

[spice meadow]

You already completed it?

[spice meadow]

Some people did it for the funnies

[pine yacht]

oh I am nowhere near, but people that did are active BMing atm for shiny progress, especially for those World 6 bonuses XD

[paper sail]

Oh, you inspired me btw. My IE review bot calculates how much candy you have in your stash

[burnt sail]

Well tbh I quit for like a year and just missed a lot of rotations. Trying to farm gems to buy from shop to compensate.

[slender sandal]

lmao oh no

[pine yacht]

gib

[paper sail]

Literally nobody is doing this

[slender sandal]

i actually used like 600 hours of candy today and did some super chows

[pine yacht]

go to endgame, yes they are

[spice meadow]

I dont even wanna think about w6

[pine yacht]

there are people walking around with lvl 10 shinies XD

[slender sandal]

if you can beat w5 boss you can at least dip your toes into w6 and get started on town skills, which is usually a big gain (w4 and w5 were both very much skills you wanted to start asap and w6 will likely be the same)

[spice meadow]

I just hope that w6 will have passive skills like gaming or alchemy

[slender sandal]

not like mob progression matters that much when there's no boss and likely not much to do

[spice meadow]

I dont want to have "the lab/divinity grind" on another world

[slender sandal]

other than watching people get wanpaned by last zone crystal mobs

[spice meadow]

Starves your chars

[pine yacht]

Not the gaming pls... I dont want RNG to timegate me from gains for 7 months again...

lab is 100x better than gaming

[paper sail]

Mobs still give some unique drops to farm, stamps, materials to vial. It isn't nothing

[pine yacht]

people just have no idea how to set it up

[spice meadow]

"Im not like the other girls"

Lab is literally the most boring part of the game

[pine yacht]

literally no one liked gaming design due to how heavy rng it is

[paper sail]

I'd argue Div is worse

[pine yacht]

eh... you werent stuck with the same nug for 6 months then

[spice meadow]

Yeah

[paper sail]

4 months, but sure, go off

[pine yacht]

now it's maybe not as bad due to equinox

but the chem is still annoying to get to no end

[spice meadow]

Patience

[paper sail]

Gaming doesn't eat a character's time, at least

[spice meadow]

Yeah

Thats whats good about it

And more skills on w6 should be like it

The point

[paper sail]

My favorite part of gaming is that it has an eventual end

[spice meadow]

Yeah

[paper sail]

More things need to end. Having 9001 things to check every hour gets exhausting

[pine yacht]

true

especially with the amount of procs we have

it's like log in to one char, open 15 shits, log in to next one, do the same...

and if he adds more chars it's only gonna get worse

[untold lintel]

then delete ur doot >:)

[pine yacht]

dont have one

[paper sail]

Having to stop and claim both sailing and gaming between each character is really annoying

[pine yacht]

exactly

doot just makes this even worse

[paper sail]

W5 has had incredibly strong buffs, but easily my least favorite world so far

[pine yacht]

cant imagine trough how many procs dooters have to go trough

[ancient vine]

I think the best world buffs is 2

Cauldron op

[left spoke]

BM gives shiny progress ?

[pine yacht]

I liked sailing, but it really needed more ways to buff artifact chance

[fathom lagoon]

It’s horrible at times mainly for gaming but I have a good system down now lol

Also I don’t have chem so im not in gaming hell yet

[paper sail]

There is almost no way it ends up being worthwhile compared to the lost gains from being active on DK or even Bubo

[pine yacht]

I have it, if you have shitty rng it's really not as bad as people make it out to be

succeeding from suffer ?

[fathom lagoon]

Suffering from success lol

[left spoke]

Ok thanks, I won't do that then

[fathom lagoon]

Oh well yeah this case would be succeeding from suffering haha

[pine yacht]

ye... idk... people going nuts about 300+ cauldrons, only to dump it all in GT when in reality if they spent the time lvling the GT bubble on actually lvling chars, they'd get about the same gains

[paper sail]

That is insanely incorrect lol

2 weeks of GT bumped me from 30x to over 100x class exp, which now applies to every single character

Now what used to be 2 weeks of active BB time can be completed in basically 1/3 that.

[pine yacht]

ewww... active bb

[pine yacht]

idk I just aint feeling it yet, when does it start ramping up

[slender sandal]

i think i saw that 5k is feasible for the everyone to 500 grind but higher is better, and getting to like 20k makes it a lot more tolerable

[paper sail]

I mean it is linear, so there is no ramp up.. If anything, it ramps down because each GT level is more expensive than the last for the same increase.

[slender sandal]

and if you're doing active bubo a lot you zoom that bubble

[signal osprey]

You can get like 1k+ GT per day for the first 10-15k levels so its really not even that bad to push it

[slender sandal]

but the 500 grind is likely going to be trivalized with w6 exp anyway, we just don't know if that's in a month or 4 months

[pearl pebble]

at what point is cranium cooking 100% uptime

[signal osprey]

Never

Maybe with W6 buffs but right now we arent even close

[pearl pebble]

ah ok

[pine yacht]

how close are people with slug to it tho ?

[signal osprey]

Not even close

I had 311 talent levels on bubo with a 6k CC bubble and I get like 50-60% uptime roughly

[pine yacht]

maybe we just need a denser map

[slender sandal]

which is still insane lol

[pearl pebble]

is slug the best map for bubo active?

ive been doing the flamborgmajellyfish in w4

or the soda cans

[pine yacht]

slug as in pet follower, not map

[slender sandal]

especially since you're getting like 4days? or so of alch progress every time it goes off if you're getting big times

[pearl pebble]

hahaaaaaaaaaa just kidding

☠️

[dense prism]

is my orb to high ? 301 with po boxes i rem there beeing a point where it didnt matter anymore

[pine yacht]

quite sure it is, since mine already is and it's below 300

[signal osprey]

Yeah I was getting around 5 days per CC at 4 CC's per hour lol

[slender sandal]

3 hours for 2 months of gains kek

that's some efficiency

[paper sail]

432k CC = 5 days

[signal osprey]

So probably a bit more then as 430k was on the low end for me

I was getting like 450-460k on average

[dapper prism]

425-430k's with a 1090 Roadkill

every 12.5mins about

[vapid cove]

oh boy just unlocked crystal steak

[slender sandal]

gz that's a nice comfy buff

[vapid cove]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-running-ogre-maximum-ogredrive-gif-11872670

its nice indeed

nice bump in damage

[signal osprey]

Almost at my next 99% with the CC bubble

[pine yacht]

lol higher than my GT

[slender sandal]

did you just hourly that for a good while?

[signal osprey]

Yeah been clicking it for a few months

[dapper prism]

Still best to just atom it to ~1k asap

[slender sandal]

probably a good idea, i've been pancaking (we don't waffle here) about where to spend atoms so that seems like a decent place

although if we're all active bm memeing then who needs cc levels lol

[dapper prism]

First Larry, some skill bubbles (mage/warri) some construction then roadkill was my stuff

[signal osprey]

Active BM meme is definitely not worth doing

[slender sandal]

all memes are worth doing

but yeah i'd go do beans if i'm not ccing

[signal osprey]

The thing is its not even intended to be a meme. The goal is to level shiny bonuses which are good to level

The problem is none of the shiny bonuses are good enough to justify active time. Any gains you get from active BM from shiny levels will just be less than what you would have gotten in that same time on DK

[pearl pebble]

is maestro damage always lower than all other classes

[signal osprey]

Part of what makes shinies good is the fact that theyre "free" because they just go up over time

[sacred verge]

depends on alot of stuff

[mortal compass]

What is GT?

[pearl pebble]

grind time

[signal osprey]

Only time I can see it being worth it is for an account actually in W4 just unlocking shiny bonuses

[fervent brook]

Finally joined 1mill nug club.

[signal osprey]

At that point you can get a lot of levels quickly because theyre all fast and you also probably cant DK effectively either because you have a newer account

[slender sandal]

it's a nice residual thing to have while leveling your bm if you feel like it needs levels

[signal osprey]

But anyone with a functional DK will always be better off on DK

[sacred verge]

imagine if BM suddenly becomes the best active class in w6

[slender sandal]

but yeah you're generally right, definitely seems more like an esoteric end game thing to break up the beans grind

[hybrid spindle]

then bb will cry in a corner

[sacred verge]

BB and BM best active classes in w6

that would be some hella meta change

[signal osprey]

That would be awful

We already have enough things to active on as it is. Not every class needs to be an active class

Having supporting roles is fine

[sacred verge]

yeah i agree

would be some OP shit required to make us stop DK also

however i would love if they got a bit more viable active

something a bit more along the lines of SB/ES. usefull to some extent but not where you want to spend the bulk of your time

[desert needle]

should my 10th char be a wizard or shaman

[sacred verge]

that depends on your other chars classes

assuming you got 1 ES and 1 bubo, go for 2nd ES

[upper kayak]

What is the drop off for golden food boni? I bought a couple of golden hampters from the weekly boss and wondering what the best stack size is

[desert needle]

ok thanks thats a wizard right?

[sacred verge]

yes

[ancient vine]

Yes

[desert needle]

Thanks

[ancient vine]

Elemental sorcerer= ES

[pearl pebble]

so rift slug passive does not work on vman

[fervent yew]

not all the vman talents, no, it does on some, i think the aoe attack is one of them?

ES family bonus and the equinox bonus levels also dont affect most of vman talents, so its not just the slug

[pearl pebble]

ah ok

what would u recommend to max on vman?

stats or utility?

[slender sandal]

cooking one is massive

[sacred verge]

what orb kills are you boys at?

[paper sail]

Spread them evenly to start with. Warriors have the best gold food buffs and can reach the 100% guaranteed proc much much sooner than anyone else

[upper kayak]

Thank you!

[fervent yew]

Utility at first IMO, Enhancement eclipse is pretty potent for the first 100 levels, makes it much easier to skill up with your Vman, makes it easier to get plunderous mobs for boosting SB active, radiant chainbolt for ES active, and sleeping on the job increases your Vman gains even further.

Blood Marrow is a great buff, but the further in cooking you get, the more bonkers good the buff gets, so might not be good at first.

Master of the system multikill is a huge buff to everyone, but it depends on you getting decent progress in your speedruns.

Those will benefit all of your classes regardless of what they're doing. Remember you can max out the chess talent in aestro for bonus void talents

[cyan shuttle]

it's time to build towers again

[fervent yew]

I mean, a huge bunch of the skills and icons and such are effectively reused from it, some sprites are updated, but reusing assets isnt anything new~

[ancient vine]

As long as it's entertaining and he do less effort

Nice

[random saddle]

so i still btr to put style to the 3 div xp if out of lab?

hw about hare is artic works with it or need to be active too?

[teal lynx]

Harriep gives 3x prints no matter what
Bear gives you 2 times prints. The wording is key: "Uploaded Players"

Uploaded doesn't mean physically connected in Lab

[pearl pebble]

does vman want to use the skilled dimwit talent

[fervent yew]

This is why having two ES's is great, x3 gains from being linked to Harriep, but can use their second link to link to Goharut at the same time (ES talent), park in the lab, they're getting lab exp, divinity gains, even more 3d printer gains from lab bonuses, and they're passively granting +10% afk gains to all other characters all at the same time.

[hollow osprey]

how do i use the 2nd link on ES?

[fervent yew]

Elemental sourceror talent Polytheism, each time you put a talent point in it it cycles to a different god, put 1 talent point into it at a time until it shows the name of the god you want the second link with.

[hardy quarry]

And if you click too many times, you can reduce the talent by standing under the elephant god's pedestal

[hollow osprey]

ty

[tacit tulip]

Yeah pancake your towers are way too low, you slacker

[hollow osprey]

the color of prints change after connecting to harriep right?

[orchid ferry]

whats the best way to get lucky lad on vman?

[fervent yew]

Yeah, they should go purple

whats a good level for getting to 100 on Frosty TD? i've managed 100 on all of the other ones, but am struggling with 80 on that, most of my towers are around 40, except for void which is lower, party starter at 50 and boulder/first tower which are 56.

[hollow osprey]

yeah ty, they went purple after cloudsave

[fervent yew]

Most people swear by candying with drop rate cards on a dreadlo ore till it drops, its what i did - nabs a bunch of lumberbob statues too, for an easy onyx / super charge for chopping power, but depends on what your afk rates are like for it.

[hollow osprey]

can ES link to the same god to get the bonus twice?

double snehebatu for sampling would be nice xD

[proven basin]

imagine

[sacred verge]

double harripe would be nice

much more impactfull

[wind umbra]

when chem looping for nugs is there a way to bypass the delay on shovel clicks or do u just gotta wait for the animation to be done?

[hollow osprey]

double snehebatu for sampling, after done switching to double harriep

[sacred verge]

a man can only dream

[hollow osprey]

just imagine having multiple doot means you get every link + minor link bonus as much as how many doots u have

💀

[proven basin]

w6 will have rope ain't no way

[keen rapids]

Anyone know how much dmg you gotta do to out damage w5 boss healing?

If you didn't bother killing any moles for nightmare

[hybrid spindle]

Anything peculiar about this? Because I just upgraded a few dishes to 30 and the numbers did not change one bit

[sacred verge]

use a class that kills moles and you dont have to worry

DK, bubo, ES etc

[worldly hollow]

lets goooo all shinies unlocked

[keen rapids]

no i want it to be done classless.

I was just curious if anyone knows the figure

[sacred verge]

why?

[keen rapids]

For fun man,

[worldly hollow]

my vman dps'd the boss without bothering with the moles at ~115b

[keen rapids]

Sound, thanks for the figure

[sacred verge]

lol

[keen rapids]

So i'd need around 450b since idon't have quad hit

[worldly hollow]

^

give or take lol

[sacred verge]

better start stacking QS

[keen rapids]

I could easily boost it to 50b but 450b gonna take a lil while D:

QS?

[sacred verge]

quick slap

[keen rapids]

Never really bothered leveling that xD

[pine yacht]

most likely way more

[worldly hollow]

i just started not too long ago on it

[keen rapids]

Mines only lvl 215 D;

[magic stag]

how bad are the last few eldritch artifacts? have 4 left wondering if I should pick up a +4% per lvl artifact chance captain upgrade

[vale cloud]

what should my 9th character be i got 3 warriors 2 mages 2 archers and 1 secret class all of them elit classes

[keen rapids]

Is it anygood / worth the effort?

[pine yacht]

The last bubbles should help a lot as well

[worldly hollow]

from what ive read its really the only damage bonus that is linear and doesnt cap, dont quote me lol

[pine yacht]

mage or archer

[keen rapids]

I was leveling lotto skills instead since that's linear xD

[hollow osprey]

when does CC get viable? my roadkill is 113 atm

[worldly hollow]

ones tente gets 200+ for 3 sec

[wind umbra]

QS is wat ppl use to get insane amounts of damage

[sacred verge]

CC is viable before tent 200

[wind umbra]

luck bubble is just a bait

[sacred verge]

QS is insane for dmg

[paper sail]

CC has always been viable. It just gets insane after 3s tent

[hollow osprey]

i get like 30min progress at staches through CC

[vestal yew]

is the best way to get atoms just to get a ridiculous amount of 3d prints on the easy mats in w1/2?

[hollow osprey]

have to level my bubo more tho

[paper sail]

Oak logs especially

[sacred verge]

Lotto is nothing compared to QS in terms of dmg

[vestal yew]

because it gives 1 atom per million over 1050m right?

[paper sail]

1 particle per 10m resource

[vestal yew]

oh right 10m

[green eagle]

Oak and copper, the saviors

[vestal yew]

sheesh, I really need to work on my prints then

how many atoms are late gamers getting?

[hollow osprey]

what's the best map for CC?

[sacred verge]

wurms

[keen rapids]

Okay sound. I guess ill have to start leveling it then

[hollow osprey]

is that after fire spirit?

[pine yacht]

yes

[sacred verge]

citringe

[pine yacht]

the last w5 map

[sacred verge]

citringe afaik

after wurms

oh

i think i missunderstood maybe

[hollow osprey]

oh well i'm at fire spirits currently

[sacred verge]

citringe is next best

[pine yacht]

before that it's citringes, with aura build

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[sacred verge]

yeah, also looks like you should work on other dmg sources tho

[hollow osprey]

gonna work on my bubo's level next days

[pine yacht]

and before that flombs, cans

[keen rapids]

What are ther other damage sources? o_o

[sacred verge]

there are so many

[keen rapids]

Ignore equipment / capes i got that stuff on my other chars.

[sacred verge]

eclipse and equinox has nice bonuses

[hollow osprey]

u can move them over

[sacred verge]

besides that idk what u have and not

[magic stag]

you can also hourly click name is cheap instead of quickslap if you don't have a ton of atoms/alt bubble upgs

[pine yacht]

his equipment is quite decent tho

[keen rapids]

What alch bubbles would help beyond qs

[vestal yew]

has lava released when w6 is coming out yet?

[sacred verge]

the last bubble

[keen rapids]

The last bubble?

[sacred verge]

yes the last bubble

[pine yacht]

Trithree bubbles

[sacred verge]

cant remember which one is for vman

or beginner

[pine yacht]

the wiz one

purple

[magic stag]

nope pretty sure it's warrior

[sacred verge]

u sure?

[magic stag]

they both have the text

[sacred verge]

yeah

[magic stag]

only one works

[sacred verge]

thats what i tought

[pine yacht]

oh both purple and orange

[keen rapids]

All the last bubbles i have are lvl 120 or so

[sacred verge]

thought

[keen rapids]

I ain't got anywhere near enough atoms to even try D;

[hollow osprey]

almost the half

[sacred verge]

have you done any eclipse?

[paper sail]

I believe only the Warrior's Power Trione actually gives Vman damage. Mage's Power Trithree has the text in the tooltip but doesn't work iirc

[dull nymph]

For gaming, is it worth waiting for things to fully grow? I keep trying to get the t4 plants and they just,, refuse to exist

[keen rapids]

https://lorrdnick.idleonefficiency.com

I've only done 5 or 6

[pine yacht]

oh... that's so sad

[keen rapids]

Im gonna start working on eclipse D;

[hollow osprey]

what's eclipse?

[sacred verge]

gear tools and food

need work

[true obsidian]

does diamond chef give a lot cooking speed?

[keen rapids]

I'll just transfer em over from other char's

[sacred verge]

eclipse

[paper sail]

Your stamps are way low imo, same with vials

[sacred verge]

tbh, the way i see it youre far from your goal

[keen rapids]

My stamps?

[sacred verge]

i would suggest not hyperfocusing that

work on general stuff

[keen rapids]

Damn bro wasn't aware my stamps were low O_o

[sleek ermine]

Diamond chef is very strong

[sacred verge]

i dont believe ur stamps are that bad at the stage ur at

[paper sail]

You have several stamps I'd consider high-prio that are very behind

[keen rapids]

Yeah i 100% agree with that xD

[paper sail]

Drippy Drop, Mason Jar, Matty Bag, Multitool especially

[keen rapids]

I was just curious about the figure.

[sacred verge]

i didnt look at that tho, i just looked at overal llvl

vials need work badly tho

statues also need alot of work

much to gain from those, specially if ur planning to do QS

[paper sail]

I personally wouldn't be trying to eclipse yet. Too many other low-hanging-fruits to grab

[slender sandal]

what kind of kph were people getting when eclipsing (assuming candy was used a fair bit too)?

i'm super chowing and feeling like i'm missing a lot of stuff, or maybe it's just pinchy damage tiers

[keen rapids]

Multitool? i rather assumed that was actually quite a bad staff?

stamp*

[paper sail]

Woof

[slender sandal]

multitool is insane

[sacred verge]

lol

[paper sail]

It is the single best stamp in the game

[keen rapids]

How?

[paper sail]

Except maybe Crystallin lol

[magic stag]

anything that says base scales with all your other multipliers

[paper sail]

Look at it this way

[magic stag]

oh it doesn't say base

I think it is though? maybe it's just that strong

[paper sail]

Your Pickaxe stamp is giving 310 mining eff

Multitool is giving 1800 to ALL skills

[keen rapids]

I get that but when you actually go to mine stuff for example you usually have effiency in the millions

I kinda just ignored it because well it's so low

[paper sail]

Trust. It is huge.

[keen rapids]

But if it get scaled I get that.

[magic stag]

I'm pretty sure it's base skill eff. because the rest are; plus it's scaled by the TP star talent too

[paper sail]

I need time to slow down so I can work more on this IE AutoReview bot Catches a lot of these little things that don't really get looked at when humans review IE

Someone come babysit lol

[sacred verge]

some stamps dosent say "base" even if they are

[keen rapids]

Imagine man, that make it so much easier / more accurate

[paper sail]

I'm trying 😅
http://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

I feel like the tabs that are there are good, just needs more tabs reviewed

[hybrid spindle]

interesting site

I just learned that I have 16k hours of candy 👀

[paper sail]

Hey, me too

[pastel bramble]

when ur about to complete w130 and u press on portal by accident and leave room

[hybrid spindle]

that looks awefully similar to mine

[upbeat basin]

Nothing major but went from 196k to 324k nug 😁

[paper sail]

I'm working on inventory bags and storage chests next. In the process of doing so, I realized that one of my characters is actually missing a bag lmao

[keen rapids]

"something went wrong :-("

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/what-shocked-surprised-why-how-gif-24191425

[teal lynx]

Have you uploaded your IE atleast once?
(I assume it needs that)

[sacred verge]

HEY, mama bean!

[sick sentinel]

Do you hava a space in ur name?

[keen rapids]

Nope

[paper sail]

I'm already accounting for that 😉

[teal lynx]

Hey

[pastel bramble]

[sick sentinel]

Mine needed an underscore

[sacred verge]

funny thing i suggested that name for someone here a few days ago

[paper sail]

Yeah, IE profiles expect underscores. My bot should be replacing any spaces you enter with underscores automatically. Did it not for you?

[teal lynx]

I know :P
Hachin (i think) was like "where is my mama bean" and then I renamed myself

[sacred verge]

hahah i love it

[teal lynx]

No one wanted to be Mama bean, therefore I took it

[sacred verge]

sounds good

[sick sentinel]

If u want to try with mine, my first name is dee znutts

[paper sail]

So what exactly did you enter for it to not work? I'm pulling up your profile 😕

[sacred verge]

lol

[teal lynx]

What is your second char? Lig Maballs?

[sick sentinel]

Wait a sec i'll pull em up lol

[keen rapids]

Is it potentially blocked by ad blockers maybe?

[paper sail]

Like literally, what did you enter lol

[sick sentinel]

XD

[keen rapids]

LORRDNICK

[sick sentinel]

Lig maballs will be 11 just for u

[sacred verge]

TeamMommy was my favorite.

[slender sandal]

meatmissile

[tender needle]

I tried that link and it’s not working for me either

[teal lynx]

You were not joking about dee_znutts
Some creative names you got there

[slender sandal]

also your tool reminded me i hadn't publically updated in months, was shocked when it said family level 2700 when i'm >4k now

[hybrid spindle]

I like that it counts my candy but that leaves me with the question....what do I use them on 👀

[slender sandal]

a candy suggestor is my number 1 request too haha

[sacred verge]

GMUSH

[paper sail]

Should be fixed now, thank you

[tender needle]

How do you publicly update??

[slender sandal]

i might just full send like 1k 1 hours on gmush for forge crap too so i can upgrade gear

[sick sentinel]

I'll try it out

[sacred verge]

why not eat som candy at gmush

[sick sentinel]

Ye works now without underscore! Love it scoli

[pastel bramble]

anyone know how many red bits a purple bit is worth?

[sick sentinel]

1QQ i think?

[tender needle]

@teal lynx what is that….. I’m out of touch apparently lmao

[pastel bramble]

well then he really made that extra plant spot expensive

[teal lynx]

IdleOn Efficiency. Scoli is using that information to review your Account

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[tender needle]

Ahhh ok, I tried using that months back and I couldn’t get it to work… I didn’t try very hard tho

[teal lynx]

IE doesn't work for you?
What about https://idleontoolbox.com ?
Unfortunately you can't sent IT profiles, but it's still a great tool to quickly look at your Account and see what you are missing

[paper sail]

I don't know who did it, but someone broke it because of entering just blank lines lmao. I now account for that

Stop breaking it now

I eventually want to allow you to paste in a JSON from IT or IE, for those who don't want to use IE or share publicly, but.. not available yet

[keen rapids]

It never worked to begin with for me 😭

[paper sail]

Close the site and open it again. Try again.

[teal lynx]

One question. What does Best Alchemy-Vial Tier met: 12/22 mean?

[keen rapids]

ayyy

[paper sail]

The tiers are my made up progression list. Full list is here~ (Tabs with a gray background on the Index page are live on the site, white background still WIP) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16I-rURrVeyvltK2wxcQSiPgO07QY015RVNG4MAgUsGw/edit?usp=sharing

[tender needle]

@teal lynx I got it working just now, last time I tried there was some issue with iOS accounts or something and I kind of forgot about it lol

[paper sail]

So in your case, you're met all the requirements for this entry and it generates advice / missed requirements to get to the next tier

[teal lynx]

Oh alright. I never got to finish mammoth tusk, but technically got some of the "later" vials

[signal osprey]

I'm at 9 tiers because I refuse to resample for equinox

[bright vine]

which keychain is better for afk combat, 3% damage or 2.5% all stat?

[sacred verge]

@paper sail what did u use to create it?

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crazy-cat-keyboard-cat-fast-gif-5753018

Python, as you might guess from the name of the site lol

[sacred verge]

yeah

so you know how to code?

[paper sail]

Somewhat

[sacred verge]

Nice, good to know

i suck at coding and find it hard to sometimes "find" the correct information online

[paper sail]

Google giveth and Google taketh away

[sacred verge]

yea

[green eagle]

@paper sail scoli that's a great list, you should be proud

[tall horizon]

thats what we like to see

[paper sail]

😅

It was pretty easy to recommend the path I took, modified for new releases, and then my own goals

But after my own goals 🤷

[tall horizon]

If you want that link pinned, let me know.

[static basin]

shouldnt poison froge be in the abolutely a cheater tier?

[vale wadi]

how to get more gray dna with breeding. Its so slow.

[autumn rivet]

Any guides for the weekly bosses?

[paper sail]

It is the only vial I think could possibly be maxed by an insane person, if they chose to do so for a year.

[static basin]

well, a 20 min claim gives less than 10k posison froge

so 100k 20 min claims for 1b

nearly 4 years

[safe harness]

weekly boss kill thread in #1084911530417606656 , you need like 15 cooking for most guys and choccie kills i others i think this week

[static basin]

of non stop 20 min claims, right?

[paper sail]

Maybe it is worse than I thought, haha

I thought it was "only" 1 year or so

[pearl cedar]

Gstack only takes like 2 weeks though

[signal osprey]

Only 2 weeks of 20 min traps

[tall horizon]

alvin could do it

[signal osprey]

Well yeah it'd only take him a minute or two to find his froge stack in his .json

[pastel bramble]

if you level up a turret while mid-worship game does it apply without a level change? 😄

[keen rapids]

O-o

I guess the only way you could tell would be based off the price to buy it

[signal osprey]

That assumes youre not at cost reduction cap though

[pastel bramble]

cant remember what the upgrade cost was before i leveld it 😄

[keen rapids]

Well then i guess we'll never know because you have the equinox dmg perk so you can't even tell based off damage

[signal osprey]

Yeah you can. The bonus doesnt apply until 10+ seconds into a wave

[pastel bramble]

i can save upgrade for first 10 seconds after a wave starts 😄

[signal osprey]

Check in the first 10 seconds

[green eagle]

getting closer and closer

[pine yacht]

just free me from statue farming already ffs ...

[paper sail]

You're not too far away

[green eagle]

trickz is on level 8 i think of that vial currently

[pine yacht]

havent done the ES ones yet tho...

[paper sail]

Twinning

[signal osprey]

Also at level 8

[green eagle]

i'm only level 4

[pine yacht]

I am also at lvl 8

[paper sail]

I was real hungry for it a while ago. Played BM active for like a week

[green eagle]

just decided to go on my 115% journey 🫡

[rugged token]

yeah level 8 was manageable everything past that feels really tedious

[green eagle]

i can think of some many other things i'd rather do with what little sanity i have left

[signal osprey]

I did mine with 1 hour traps back when I still needed sailing artifacts so I was checking almost every hour anyway

20 min traps with active BM is a special kind of hell

[paper sail]

See you soon 🫡

[pine yacht]

oooooh I was wondering what active BM has to do with that... just no...

[paper sail]

I actually filtered out Froges during mine

[pine yacht]

ROFL

[paper sail]

It was pre-Ram companion

[pine yacht]

but how will you max library without it

jokes aside, what is actually achievable lvl of library... as in which lvl requires 1B froges or just a bit less ?

[paper sail]

No idea. Wiki doesn't have costs

[elfin cape]

@paper sail hmmmm, is this right?

[paper sail]

What name did you enter?

[signal osprey]

Why would 1b froges be the cap. You can make multiple stacks

[paper sail]

Told y'all to stop breaking it lol

[elfin cape]

I'm sorry

[pine yacht]

ah right... I am just not used to that since I always have storage problems...

also the reason I absolutely dispise LierL

[daring rapids]

My damage seems low for my stats?

[paper sail]

Could have been me. The error log looks like it maybe broke in the consumables section and I'm in editing that file right now

[keen rapids]

Probably alchemy or stamps

[pine yacht]

more likely alch

most notebly the last bubble

[daring rapids]

this one?

[pearl cedar]

Dmg does not seem low for the stats though

[pine yacht]

ye that one

[daring rapids]

been trying to force its upgrades until I can start atoming it

[pearl cedar]

The stats are low though

[pine yacht]

it's on a low side for 17k main stat

[paper sail]

fr though, what name did you enter for it to break? You can dm if you're not trying to expose your name lol

[signal osprey]

That damage seems fine for 17k main stat assuming hes not atoming quick slap

[hollow osprey]

when should i start focusing on GT?

[paper sail]

When reaching 425/450 is a struggle, but you already have Kruk gear to wear

[hollow osprey]

oh well will forget this then

long way for me

[keen rapids]

What do you even need damage for though?

[daring rapids]

nightmare kattle farms, deathnote kills?

[daring rapids]

which is quick slap again?

nvm its the green movement speed, is that better then the damage for hp one for DK?

[dapper prism]

Quick Slap isnt the solution to having low dmg, having a well rounded account with all the content will help a lot more than just dumping thousands of atoms into Quick Slap

[daring rapids]

thats the problem, outside of still waiting for chips, and being stuck trying to get the last 25 talent points from artifact for the last 3ish months im not sure what im really missing to push for the bil damage lol

[dapper prism]

Probably overall low samples and/or with that stamps/alcehmy bubbles that arnt just "Quick Slap"

[elfin cape]

Quickslap is not the solution for low damage, it's the solution to get meme damage

[dapper prism]

E.g. I get to 10-40t+ dmg with a low lvl 200 Quick Slap (excluding Equinox scimmy too)

[elfin cape]

You'll have WAY more than enough damage for anything by regular gameplay

[fathom lagoon]

Left my DK active for a few hours while doing some house work. Came back to see auto was off

[paper sail]

I left mine overnight with AFK chip instead of Chocco Chip I had just switched from Active Bubo to Active DK and forgot to change.

[green eagle]

🧑‍🏭 📈

[dapper prism]

thats why you just keep a choco chip on each of them

[paper sail]

But that is inefficient AFK gains 😦

[daring rapids]

Still waiting for first choco from gems or rotation 😦

[dapper prism]

Keep the afk gain one and toss out one of the equip doublers that isnt as strong 😉

[fathom lagoon]

Godshard is the blueish purplish one right

[paper sail]

Yes

[fathom lagoon]

Noiceee just got my first one

[daring rapids]

Is there a way to speed up sigil unlocks?

[dapper prism]

whats your gmush at btw?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea the new equinox bug vial

[dapper prism]

Sigil speed Vial (equinox) and gemshop

[paper sail]

Not Great ™️ = 31b

[daring rapids]

have vial, and max gemshop and its still like 18d to unlock something lol

[dapper prism]

Sigils just suck

[fathom lagoon]

Yes sigil is just slow in general

[dapper prism]

Theres a sigil for sigil speed too

[fathom lagoon]

Lmaooo didn’t even know that

[daring rapids]

I made sure to max that asap lol

[fathom lagoon]

What column in 2nd row is that?

I’m working on trove rn

[pearl cedar]

Is nice because it's still slow as shit after lol

[paper sail]

It is the next sigil after Trove

[daring rapids]

after trove yea

[fathom lagoon]

Ah true bet, thanks y’all

[dapper prism]

I finally hit my first 1mil (and more) overnight 😄
https://i.imgur.com/AnzsrwR.png

[daring rapids]

Im over here happy to get 10 red coins a night...

[dapper prism]

You went public 😄

[daring rapids]

how do you upload the account publicly?

[dapper prism]

in IE top right corner (click the little character icon)

public profile, then upload, then use the public link

pretty sure it was all multi?

[zealous niche]

That’s a false equivalence, ladles benefit from diamond chef, it’s not an either or

[dapper prism]

Also Diamond chef if i recall only needs to be around ~300 or something for 90-95% effy ?

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-donald-duck-swimming-in-money-gold-coins-gif-16654576

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-money-life-wallet-broke-gif-7513240

Until I hit my stamps and it'll be

[proud pumice]

is it worth it to farm hampsters with active ES? i'm leaving 9 chars afk there and onlu got 300 hampster in like 5 days, it's too slow

[green eagle]

truuuuuue

[pearl cedar]

300 for visual 95% but like 3700 for actual 95%

[dapper prism]

Always Active.. But also, do you have doot?

[daring rapids]

im lost what do you mean by IE?

[green eagle]

you're trying too hard, that shows your DR is way too low and it needs to be worked on and patched first

[proud pumice]

no doot

[dapper prism]

Oh damn

[dapper prism]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[dapper prism]

Then even worse if you have 9 people doing combat without doot...

[proud pumice]

i have around 10x DR, i need the bags so my anvil doesn't get full every hour

[green eagle]

lovely coding in lava's game of rounding errors

[pearl cedar]

Yeah @static basin has the actual numbers.

[pearl cedar]

Nothing to do with rounding in this case

[proud pumice]

i need to lvl them up anyways, i'm trying to push everyone to 300

[green eagle]

oh

[pearl cedar]

It is due to it being multiplicative with each meal. So it is actually applying 57 times

[dapper prism]

Still probably a terrible setup, if you need xp i'd just push zones, unlocking them faster with nobi. If you have 9 people afk there you either have them on bear or you missed out on lab bonuses. The actual grind is active ES.

[proud pumice]

yeah i have 6 bears 4 omni

ok, i'll go farm it with ES

[static basin]

Because the way diamond chef is applied
1.29x ^ 57 = 2,011,932x
1.299x ^ 57 = 2,990,347x

that last 0.009x is huge for the end result

[fallen torrent]

Day 9- Still 1 time use printer goes brrr 😦

[signal osprey]

Bigger number > smaller number

[static basin]

level 3322 for 95%

[dapper prism]

But also, that's a ton of atoms that can have higher priority in other spots

[pearl cedar]

Yeah like quickslap

[static basin]

yeah sure, cooking prio is a personal preferance

[dapper prism]

Especially now with Marrow that does such a good job itself

[signal osprey]

At this point I feel like cooking is more of a wait and see type of thing

If W6 doesnt increase the max meal level again then maxing all meals is going to be pretty easy

[dapper prism]

Huh, that has nothing to do with using 50 atoms a day either on mage/warri bubbles vs cooking bubbles..

[pearl cedar]

I got too much squirrel brain for that. Hard enough to only push qs

[dapper prism]

Most plates you wont be able to get to 60 xD

[static basin]

w6 giving us bigger samples for more atoms, meaning level 30 flouride will be much easier, along with the extra superchows

current plates getting to level 60 should be fine with that increase

[signal osprey]

Thats the main reason I'm not atoming dchef more right now

[pearl cedar]

I hope w6 gives us more secret mobs

That requires years of active BB

[signal osprey]

Also why I havent bothered chowing doot shroom/equinox

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/ySysHra.png

[signal osprey]

Until I see 70+ max plate levels its not necessary

[dapper prism]

Even with a lot at 60, look how quick the ladle cost scales on some of these.

So a lot is more on the time gated stuff for more ladles and Random event kills

[fallen torrent]

440m/1000m thread. almost there

[pearl cedar]

That's fair. Who knows what other bonuses we will get too. We weren't even getting lvl 30 plates until 5 months into w5

[signal yew]

Div Question: i unlocked TranQi Style 3 days ago, changed 1 char for this stance and moved him back to fighting...i did get zero...ZERO exp meanwhile. Active and AFK...Tested on IOS and Win11, same result...i might have some other mechanic that is cutting my exp not sure would could be...any ideas?

[fallen torrent]

i need to do TD5 wave 120 to get the cloud

thx for reminding me michael

[pastel bramble]

nananana 120 isnt good enough, you have to BEAT 121

which realistically means 130

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/4hpAf9p.png

[fallen torrent]

i mean doing 120 mean i reach 121 right?

[pastel bramble]

nope

you have to BEAT 121

[proud pumice]

the exp you get doesn't appear in AFK session when you collect, did you check the number to make sure you really didn't get the exp?

[fallen torrent]

oh i see

well anyway im going to go for that 140 or something

i pumped my construction tower

[signal yew]

i didnt get anything

[fallen torrent]

my kraken tower got 6 lvl

[pastel bramble]

which means beat 130 cause u wont beat 121 in time for next wave i dont think 😄

[signal osprey]

You sure? The prayers only required getting to 121

[pastel bramble]

pretty sure cause i did 120 and it didnt count

[dapper prism]

you have to defeat 121 before new waves would spawn. so technically getting to 130 and only having bosses there will count for 121?

[pastel bramble]

my first attempt i got upto 130 then failed, so it didnt count as beating 121

[dapper prism]

Because you may have not killed the wave 121 during that?

[pastel bramble]

yup

u have to beat 121 before 122 spawns

if 122 spawns u have to go till 130 ends

or until u clear all mobs on screen before next wave spawns

[dapper prism]

Thought you'd only have to get to 130 and kill off wave 121, not actually 130? may be wrong then

[tough tusk]

cant you sell some stuff to be able to upgrade some towers?

[signal osprey]

You have to have no mobs on screen for your score to count

[pearl cedar]

For clouds?

[signal osprey]

If you get to 130 then you need to beat it as well

[pastel bramble]

nah cause i might be able to go 150 ill take the risk since i already got 130 locked in 😄

[dapper prism]

thought thats only for the highest wave progress to count, but not for prayers/cloud?

[fallen torrent]

imma beat the td5. watch me

[pearl cedar]

I got the cloud with having max level at 120

[pastel bramble]

cloud is different to prayers

prayers say "reach wave"

equinox does too actually 😄

but it doesnt work like prayers 😄

[signal osprey]

Thats assuming the cloud behaves like the prayer which I cant say whether or not thats the case personally. I had 130+ on every TD long before equinox

[dapper prism]

I had w4/5 sub 120's but also.. If you manage 120 you should easily manage 130

[pastel bramble]

unless u leave room by clicking portal on accident cough but who would do that....

[mighty harbor]

How long should I leave my Voidwalker with Rarity x8.84 battling to get the magma fists recipe?

[pastel bramble]

drop rate/kills per hour*2

[signal osprey]

Thats not feasible for the glove recipe though

Guaranteed drop for it takes months

[dapper prism]

Not at all, use ES

[signal yew]

Div Question: i unlocked TranQi Style 3 days ago, changed 1 char for this stance and moved him back to fighting...i did get zero...ZERO exp meanwhile. Active and AFK...Tested on IOS and Win11, same result...i might have some other mechanic that is cutting my exp not sure would could be...any ideas?

[dapper prism]

I think it was even Years last time we checked

[pastel bramble]

theres a drop rate calc somewhere i deleted the link long ago though

it was fairly accurate

[signal osprey]

Yeah and it will tell you the glove cant be guaranteed in any reasonable amount of time

[dapper prism]

numbers to high