lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[lyric sequoia]

To live in your tiering, I'd have quit this game years ago

[daring rapids]

endgame is hitting 9999 levels and unlocking 11th char 😛

[zinc torrent]

imagine someone reaching 9999 levels, but can't print

[pearl cedar]

I mean you dont have the damage for all content yet. At best midgame definitely not late or endgame yet

[zinc torrent]

wait nevermind, there are 12 slots in printing

[daring rapids]

Also RNG hates me in this game, going on near 3 months and can't get the last artifact for skill lvls 😦

[chrome kite]

sitting on this 1.52/1.54 for last 15 minutes. No luck 😦 Should I reset the room and try again?

[lyric sequoia]

The slot count in printing is just because there are only 10 characters, page 3 willl appear when we have 13 (which will be coming in theory, as we need that many to have all of the super ellite classes)

[zinc torrent]

Hmmm i see Graphic design of skills shows possibility of 11th and 12th skills , i dunno why i remembered old designs where only 10 slots where possible to be shown

[daring rapids]

top right and top left have open slots for tails

Either of those should finish it

[chrome kite]

I'll try to lure them. Doing it on ES was much faster

[zinc torrent]

I mean, coding of game itself must enable it, if it is hardcoded to 2 pages the rip flame if he must rewrite printing, alchemy, construction and so on

I never chocked coding though

[daring rapids]

something like that is 5 minutes or so to enable

[lyric sequoia]

Nothing about "show all availalble players for a thing" is hard coded, you don't get page 2 on printer if you don't have the characters unllocked yet for it for examplle

[zinc torrent]

I mean yes, just my brain became unreasonable perfectionist and started to wonder, only to shot down that i don't know source code so i am a clown to think at all

[zinc torrent]

I mean, it could be easily rewritten, but I dunno if it is hard coded to multiple pages, or 2 pags right now. never checked code

[lyric sequoia]

It's not, you're welcome

[zinc torrent]

Which program did you use to check source code of the game, or laava interview/stream?

[lyric sequoia]

you don't get page 2 on printer if you don't have the characters unllocked yet for it
Therefore it's not hard coded

[zealous niche]

Used our eyes.

It wasn’t there until it was

[lyric sequoia]

Stuck in the chem look, send help

[zealous niche]

Me too!

I got the 15 for equinox, have been trying to chem train them for a week and a bit, I have 16 now

I swear chem odds have been increased

[lyric sequoia]

I reallly wish it was "harvest all except for chem, and harvest cactus first"

My hand hurts 😦

[bold quiver]

lava could at least let us move the plants, that way it would be easier to spam

[zinc torrent]

if there is variable for printer page in games code, it could still be limited done by option nr 1: character 1-6 or option number 2 characters 7-12. and two identical windows with number display changed. If it is flexible it would be coded as x page with 6x-5 to 6x characters. Without code access it would look as the same page 1 page 2 you see. That is what i wondered about, still as someone said, looks like 5 minutes change

[lyric sequoia]

"Finally last chem" -> "FUCK NOW THERES 2 OF THEM"

Lava doesn't know how to program, so I promise you it's not as in depth as you think it is

FUCK NOW THERES 3 OF THEM

.................4

I hate this

I allready had that pain for blossom T6, and it was way longer than a week

This loop gave me enough bits for the class exp MSA, so that's nice I guess

[zinc torrent]

He is good at graphic designing for sure though, in pixel style. I have a feeling 80-95% of parctical/production effort is put into this. Now, planning/ideas though, I have 0 idea how time consuming it is

[vapid cove]

nice gj

[lyric sequoia]

Use 100001 and brick it, you wont no balls

[sleek ermine]

Time to get 1000 cooking mastery, amirite guys?

[zinc torrent]

tell me about it and 27/75 greenstack bubble for me

[sleek ermine]

I need laddles, but that xph is abysmal, my multiplier is 23x too

[lyric sequoia]

Guys I don';t think you can possibly guess what just happened

[dapper prism]

cooking so easy to lvl

[sleek ermine]

i mean I have mine at 50 on all chars too, I am not too far, maybe early end game, but its still so dumb

[dapper prism]

No real correlation between xp and ladles though

[sleek ermine]

I know, that wasnt the point. Pont is the xp is shit, end.

[dapper prism]

Oh

[lyric sequoia]

Fuck my life

"down to 1" -> "WOW 3 OF THEM AGAIN"

[sleek ermine]

@dapper prism I was just told not to do it for xp, but I reassured that I am doing it for the laddles just wanted to show the xp is siht

[lyric sequoia]

No idea, probably not

I don't care all that much about it, did the equinox 1 a whille ago which was way more important

[dapper prism]

Just realized i dont even have that achievement yet xD

Then again, 2lazy for endless* chems..

[lyric sequoia]

I doubt I have it, I don't open gaming nearlly enough for it

[zinc torrent]

lots of pearls I see

[lyric sequoia]

I don't even have rank 20 shell, no way I'm close to the chem achievement

[zinc torrent]

I saved my pearls for lvl 30 from lvl 20/25 for now. did you buy candies on events or sth? or just play for 1 year +

[lyric sequoia]

I think at least 1 on my characters is till lv 1 cooking

Over 2000 red pearls, just never bothered to level them all up

[zinc torrent]

nevermind, i recalled i used more than half on fishing

[sleek ermine]

1 green balloon is level 12, 10 more is level 25

[zinc torrent]

Cause i hated candy usage on fishing, like lvl 30 is nightmare compared to lvl 50

[dapper prism]

red pearls are easy, especially with the double unlink now

[zinc torrent]

cause fishing spot was hard locked

[lyric sequoia]

Fuck balloons

[dapper prism]

always baloon to 20s first, so easy and you get spammed by balloons

[sleek ermine]

You can click and hold balloons, they are much nices than pearls

[lyric sequoia]

I got my p2w doot pearls if I ever care enough about it

fml thought I was about to get a 0.1% nug increase then

rolled a 145k nug on my 146k current

[zinc torrent]

Well, that is convienient for sure

I only bought autoloot after like 6 months

[lyric sequoia]

You have to care about setting a character up with cooking stuff to do balloons properly, I'd rather just press like 100 red pearls and not worry

[dapper prism]

For the lvl 20s? not really..

[sleek ermine]

nah bro, you use 30 green balloons and then pearl

[lyric sequoia]

50

[zinc torrent]

Btw does doot pity build up without package?

[sleek ermine]

like you dont have thousands of balloons left around

[zinc torrent]

that 200 rolls or sth

[dapper prism]

Well you baloon to 20s first.. then you pearl at least for a non-dooter

[lyric sequoia]

You couldn't pay me enough to care about ballloons

[sleek ermine]

Not even greenstack

[dapper prism]

You are speaking as a dooters perspective..

I am speaking as an overal normal player perspective

[sleek ermine]

I have doot, I still used balloons

[zinc torrent]

I think i amunlocking bird right now, never got 100% chance though, is 50% max for that divinity?

[sleek ermine]

got my doot 2 weeks ago tho

[dapper prism]

It's ezpz to get pearls with doot:
https://i.imgur.com/TaHkp5E.png

[sleek ermine]

i know but i still felt like saving xD

[zinc torrent]

thanks for waning though, I'll save rift mastery for later and won't push all characters skills now

[dapper prism]

It's still a lot of clicks less, especially since pearls are 1 per click and baloons you can now hold down to do x over time

[sleek ermine]

yeah when i used balloons i was pleasantly surprised

[zinc torrent]

I only got 100% on onedivinity so far

or two

early divinities, after 30-40+ tries, never seen 100%

[dapper prism]

Need to go back and get 140 smithing on those other 3 alts
https://i.imgur.com/k1019JA.png

[sleek ermine]

you could definitely get your trapping higher tbh

[dapper prism]

Yeh, but pointless

XP on VMan, maxing critters on all alts.

Until i get my last vials to 13

[pure ember]

I would have the red MSA if I had a good snail.... my snail just takes the mail and burns it in front of my eyes

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/Wzx67c8.png

[zinc torrent]

molti map is shockingly slow for DK despite being straight line

[lyric sequoia]

Getting trapping up only really matters on vman for the min skill level

[pure ember]

Lvl 1000 mastery but that is the only thing for pushing

[zinc torrent]

(getting 250lvl 10 char bubble dream)

[dapper prism]

Yup, bhiggest goal is to finish that 13 Rabbit then Blob, then i can camp XP and stuff

[sleek ermine]

Talent points

[dapper prism]

Lvl 13 vials still more benefits imo

[undone steeple]

how is this fucker still 2.1k away ive been on him for an eternity

[dapper prism]

You do it for the vial mastery, not the actual bonus xD

[lyric sequoia]

omg I'm finallly free of chems for another day

[sleek ermine]

No I meant trapping levels, I know you do vials for mastery

[zinc torrent]

doing red stars?

[pure ember]

Wrong

Log onto another character

Boom 10 t4 chems

[sleek ermine]

And yes I know talents come plenty from alchemy, thats why I derp faced

[dapper prism]

Probably bad setup, stats and stuff like that

[lyric sequoia]

Only have 1 left to check, aint no way there's another chem in there surely

Probably

[undone steeple]

yep

[undone steeple]

its the best i can get 🙂

[pure ember]

1000% chance there is a chem

[dapper prism]

Only works for candy, not afk session

[dapper prism]

Excess Talents are fun 😄
https://i.imgur.com/fMj0u9A.gif

[lyric sequoia]

No chem, get fucked entropy

[sleek ermine]

I used to be end game before, but I am lobster low now, I take month long breaks all the time

[dapper prism]

Candy you never left the zone visually to load stuff, so you arnt refreshing anything.

Like.. It makes complete sense why an afk session wouldnt work, its same as entering the map from new, loading everything, the exact thing you would have to do to snapshot in the first place and what basically ruins your snapshot

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah you’ll want to be able to kill in 1 tick. Also max aura so you can get as much reach as possible

[dapper prism]

That pic is not your dmg, that is it's HP
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

If you are refering to 420m Citringe

[orchid iris]

I'm FINALLY at the point I can almost get the console box. Should I just stack bits for the next few days and save up or keep dumping into sprout value?

[zinc torrent]

so around 2-4b stats for 1 tick kill I guess will be needed

[dapper prism]

Depends on your gas tbh, but also especially citringe you dont care about gas as much as aura.

Aura is the actual killer, Gas is the safety net especially on bigger maps

Aura ticks faster and does more dmg.

[wise vapor]

Having neglected construction entirely pushing to w5 i need to focus it a bit more, the strat is to just focus on exp cogs? Any big boosts to construction besides squire talents?

[lyric sequoia]

With 200% crit chance and supercrits your min damage needs to be higher than the HP of the mob to 1 tick them with gas, though if you have 3s tent aura should more than cover alll of cirtinges which is much more lenient

[dapper prism]

If gas talent lvl 100 = 10% dmg meaning you'd need 4.2b min dmg to 1shot citringe with gas. (excluding crits etc)

[dapper prism]

Only have Squires on board, have every cog be XP.

[zinc torrent]

so... is aura enough to instant refresh cd at 200+ talents?

[dapper prism]

Not sure what you mean with cd

rezz?

[wise vapor]

Currently my squire is the only one who is above level 40, have him on the red cogs; swap him to board and throw everyone else at grey/yellow?

[dapper prism]

Thats a bit too early of knowledge for me to know what the best itself is, but honestly even other colored cogs give you good enough cogs non stop.

[fathom lagoon]

Yea long as your aura is high lvl to hit more enemies & you have decent dmg. For CC I basically only use aura & Rez

[zinc torrent]

yeah, without 1-2 ticks rezz refresh cranium cooking gives 22k s instead of 100k+ or so i heard in tips

[stuck pasture]

#idleon-gen-chat message

[dapper prism]

That has little to nothing to do with aura or gas itself really though but more so about having 3s Tente

or overall just not 1 shotting

the thing is, AURA ticks faster, and kills mobs faster.

You will always want aura to do nearly everything, not gas. Gas is the backup

[pale smelt]

Is anyone else's dungeons broken?

[wise vapor]

ty

[zinc torrent]

Just wondering, cause my aura one shots citringe but gas needs around 10 ticks, if i should stick to flombage instead

[untold saffron]

A sign of freedom

[pale smelt]

No extra stat's and talents work stuck on 1mp

[dapper prism]

are you using gloves and stuff?

[lyric sequoia]

Sounds like you're in the dungeon area so you're seeing your dungeon stats

[zinc torrent]

gloves?

[dapper prism]

yes, gloves, not staff

Bubo CC especially on flat maps like citringe you use gloves, never staff. That way you spread your Aura

[pale smelt]

No I'm in the dungeon trying to do the dungeon

[lyric sequoia]

Gots to get a +1 slot rolled spiked gloves for your bubo

Not sure why you're reacting with that emote, that's endgame bubo bro

[dapper prism]

Wont really make or break anything in this discussion

[lyric sequoia]

(ignore no divine scarf, it's there in spirit)

[dapper prism]

No DR? :/
https://i.imgur.com/9gE9ufr.png

[lyric sequoia]

I probably should swap them into the DR ones, that's effort tho

It's 100m x mob count total, not per mob

[zinc torrent]

you mean from rcher talent?

[lyric sequoia]

So need 1.3b in total, though the wurms 1 is interesting

[dapper prism]

Yes, but that's nothing important at all for now, that's just a tiny min-max for stats.

[lyric sequoia]

Should've got it a while ago

ohhh I remember, you have to visit DK after getting it to proc the achievement

[dapper prism]

some achievements only get triggered by UI, same as Guild GP stuff

[lyric sequoia]

Ugh I still need to force the guild 1 to proc, that's even more stupid

[zinc torrent]

... i need to ancient relic for 200 lv talent, i was planning and celebrating to early with basic version...

[lyric sequoia]

You have to have the character listed that you originally joined the guilld with, then visit the guid tab

[pure ember]

R50 talent?

[dapper prism]

cant hit 200 even with bear and stuff?

[lyric sequoia]

You can get 200 tent without ancient fury if memory serves, just

[dapper prism]

Could even get it without base fury nowdays. although somewhat unlikely you wouldnt reach it before all the other stuff

[lyric sequoia]

If you have the poo monster pet yeah

Whatever the fuck its name is

[pure ember]

With 180 beyond, rift slug, you can easily get it

[tall horizon]

Just change which char is displayed, should trigger it

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084920078493040710

[lyric sequoia]

LLast time I asked it had to specifically be the character you joined the guild with

[tall horizon]

Someone lied to you

[lyric sequoia]

Classic

[zinc torrent]

I'm probably library achievement too short even if i link to arctis, for now i use nobisect on bubo. If i don't get ancient fury before 400 library checkouts i'll try it

[tall horizon]

Sometimes you also need to scroll down to your char in the display after changing

[lyric sequoia]

Without slug it's 160 book stuff, then +10 from ES, +10 from atom. Then either base fury or slug

I mean there's a non-zero-but-effectively-zero percent chance that you're unlocking the max from equinox before fury or slug

[dapper prism]

dont need equi for the 310

Equi will get me to ~320's

[lyric sequoia]

eldritch fury alone is 75

[zinc torrent]

231 checkouts left to 1000, lvl 180 infinity talent and arctis... ok, you are right

[dapper prism]

So excluding Equi
310's -75 Fury -25 Slug = 210. Still reachable, but yeh still unlikely due to the timegated content

[zinc torrent]

with this combo ancient form i not needed

[lyric sequoia]

100 base, 60 with everything up to w3, 10 from atom, 10 from ES, 75 from fury, 25 from slug

[dapper prism]

Your bear may not give +15 lvls either btw

[lyric sequoia]

Sure 10 from bear, that assumes you're dooting too probably

[zinc torrent]

my bear is 6 lvl weak noob

[dapper prism]

Actual Book Checkout Levels
125 base upon unlocking the Talent Library in W3 Construction
+10 from W3 Merit
+20 from Salt Lick upgrades
+5 from W3 achievement to checkout 1k books
Max book of 160 pre-w5

+25/50/75 from Fury Relic artifact in sailing (3rd Version needs Eldritch, unlocked from Rift)
+10 from Atom Collider Oxygen - Library Booker
Max book level is 245
By Scoli

Extra Stuff:
+25 Slug Companion
+10-15 Bear Divinity God (15 at around Div 120s+ with Big P lvl 550)
+10ish ES Passive (Roughly lvl 420 = +10, lvl 497 ES = +11)
Keep in Mind ES itself will have a few levels more due to Family Man Talent.
+13 Symbols (Tab 4, Talent 15)
+9 Equinox (Requires 200 Greenstacks - Hard)
Total Max about ~320s

[tall horizon]

(Bear can go 17 now btw)

[pure ember]

Is this in the master guide?

[tall horizon]

Really I suppose higher but, no one gotten it to 18 afaik

[cedar sun]

is there a citric conflict setup for wave 120+

[thorn oriole]

Wym by bear god?

[zinc torrent]

master guide?

[zinc torrent]

my brain automatically shouted "bro claim recipe already" when i noticed something just now [discord symbol for mod, never noticed it]

[amber dragon]

man its so hard to play console, the packet loss or whatever spike lag is curcial

[zinc torrent]

gaming time big bubble is so satysfying when it happens

[wispy sapphire]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[muted bramble]

anyone can give me a card setup for cooking (aiming for laddles)

[thorn oriole]

Just use the skill afk gain one

[patent sentinel]

Is the journeyman cmon out crystals still broken or should I max it.

[cedar sun]

thanks

[patent sentinel]

Where you only needed to put like 1 point in

Or was that crystal countdown

It was crystal countdown. Not sure if it was patched or not

[fervent yew]

Crystal countdown you want to have plenty of points in, its one of the key ways the beginner classes can stay ahead in skilling levels easily.

[pure ember]

#1084925174517866496 message

[frail cosmos]

Where do you guys active sb and how many plunder kills it gives per h or overnight

[muted bramble]

this good ?

[fervent yew]

You wont be able to super efficiently crystal farm without a choco chip, but putting a single point means that you wont even get the full benefit of a single crystal kill. With crystal island its easier to get a glut of crystals built up to help top off skills, so even early levels i'd suggest having 10-12 points in at least for a 20% reduction in the xp, it works with giants too.

[muted bramble]

thats where im fukked 😄

[fervent yew]

if nothing else but for the ballache that is fishing leveling @.@

[patent sentinel]

I’ve had it maxed for awhile, but I remember Icelock making a video and saying it was bugged

[clear quartz]

petition to make whatever oliphaunt/sailing/gaming afk gains show on the afk claim popup an not as text on main screen, since all the other spammy crap can obscure it

or if we got a system messages history maybe

[lost ledge]

Does family bonus have a cap or something at a certain class lvl? Havent seen it go up in a while

Read something about lv 420

[worn sonnet]

fishing levels is a lot better with islands now

Unfortunately too better now

I left my bb on the island when I went away for a week

And now he's got like 30 levels on my vman

I did gstack 2 of the new fish though so that's something

[craggy fern]

time to start alchemy

[stuck pasture]

Citringe got up to 10k overnight

[lost ledge]

Citringe SB heaven

Vman talent Pirate Flag helps alot if available

(lv 50 Enhancement Eclipse)

[frail cosmos]

How much you sleeping xD
10k sounds a lot

[hollow osprey]

should i wait for golden rarity eggs at breeding?

[frail cosmos]

Nah

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[lapis mesa]

56 more cooking clogs to go, these poor mushrooms wont know what hit them

well actually its 48 i guess, one of these poor sods gets to go down the lustre/diablic for slab line

[bright current]

finally, not i just need 74 more to make the luckiest lad

[lapis mesa]

that would be miserable

dont give lava ideas

[bright current]

[pure ember]

It's been a meme for as long as it existed

[zealous niche]

Do I have enough time/respawn to get the 2000 kills? Wondering if my technique is out or need to wait for a good map, or just keep grinding for the time/respawn upgrades

It’s now 20/10

[dapper prism]

Nowhere close

Stop leveling respawn

[lavish forge]

Opened game on iOS and vman have lost most off the game map progress. Known issue?

[dapper prism]

Put everything into Time

[zealous niche]

Alright

[dapper prism]

Time would have to easily be ~50+ to even get close to 2k depending on map

[zealous niche]

Just level time until I get it? Nothing special about technique?

[thorn oriole]

Just do a speedrun, it’s not like you can lose portal progress

[dapper prism]

Just Class and map luck

Good map for bubo and that's how you'll get it, maybe, at some point 😄

[zealous niche]

Good to know

[lavish forge]

So start the speedrun thing cab solve it. Or as in just go trough it again? Thanks anyways

[zealous niche]

Level time and use bubo for mage and I’ll get it at some point

[lavish forge]

Just seemed weird😂

[thorn oriole]

Speedrun thing resets portals basically on your vman each time you do it. I had my vman push w5 a bit. And then I did a Speedrun and lost a map so

It will set it to whoever has the highest portal opened

[lavish forge]

Cheers mate!

[steady beacon]

Can someone please explain how the equinox cauldron upgrade works? Does it automatically upgrade your cap with the overflow when your cap/rate is full?

So if I run my bubo overnight, I'll wake up to a bigger cap/rate?

[thorn oriole]

When liquid full, it puts points into cap rate

[thorn oriole]

Yes

[steady beacon]

And at max upgrade, it puts 100% of the overflow into cap/rate?

[thorn oriole]

The lvl won’t increase (but it does) you just need to upgrade it once to see the true lvl. Lava bug

[thorn oriole]

99%

[steady beacon]

Good to know!

[thorn oriole]

Could say lvl 100 but the rate is of 124, and you tap it once then it updates it

It will do 100/10 type beat

[hybrid cradle]

Aight i have question
what do the different coloured bits mean, are they like above billions n shit?

[next locust]

Yeah new color just means your bits are much higher

[fathom lagoon]

Yea basically

[hybrid cradle]

ah

oh well i guess itll take a while with me on Ts rn

[fathom lagoon]

For white?

[hybrid cradle]

yep

got the squirrel today

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah you got a while to go lol, I’m lvl 85 ish gaming and get around 500m green bits per claim all

[calm gust]

When next update?

[hybrid cradle]

Soon™

[chrome tiger]

we gonna get more farming skills

[hybrid cradle]

Id love a w5 skill x anvil skill hybrid

So like you can actively do stuff but you get pawsive gain too

[chrome tiger]

plantsmithing?

[hybrid cradle]

Concepts not 1:1

But ship building would be cool

Carpentry

[ornate zinc]

For sailing
I have all artifacts of the 1st 3 islands (exept for the one that unlocks a new post office box on the 2nd island. But i font have 2nd box tab)
Should i just send most of em to the 4th island. Or should i try to upgrade speed 1st

[teal lynx]

Do you reach the new islands in 2 Hours?
Yes: You can go for Island 4
No: Might be worth upgrading your Boats

[ornate zinc]

Than ugrading boats it is as it takes 10 hours

Well
Exept for one

They have 10× more speed than others somehow

[teal lynx]

You get Gold on every Island, therefore Boat 1 has often times most speed (depending on speed captains)

[ornate zinc]

Well-
For me its the 4th

[teal lynx]

Then Boat 1 gets a big boost when you get some higher trades

[zinc torrent]

are slab items for quest items lost forever, if they are completed on all 10 characters?

[ornate zinc]

I think the reason for boat 4 being so speedy is this-

[teal lynx]

Need to wait for Character 11

Some u can reclaim tho. Check your Quest Log

[teal lynx]

Oh yeah your earlier Boats will get a boost when you unlock trading ^^

[zinc torrent]

... rift opening is automatically completed for all 10 char

and it gives opening box

[ornate zinc]

I have trading i think-
That was an old screenshot.
And damn it gives alot of gold

[teal lynx]

You mean the Phone Box?
Might be locked out for now. Lava intentionally put it there so people who didn't play on IOS Launch could get the Slab Entry

[fading plover]

also just so you know you can get more than 5 boats, there's a scroll bar. don't be like me and not notice it

[ornate zinc]

For me its the 1st thing i noticed.
I cant say the same for trapping tho

I got to end w4 without knowing you can change boxes

[mellow kraken]

is the gaming log just random? i feel like no matter where i click it's just random whether or not i hit a skull card

[dapper prism]

Imagine, the possibility of adding skill to a w5 skill, but then going pure RNG xD

[fathom lagoon]

This visual glitch keeps happening to me smh

[dapper prism]

First time seeing that, but also weird format with the black lines o.o

[fathom lagoon]

On my iPad lol

[viral osprey]

should I be trying to get 1 of each plant first or max evo of each plant?

[dapper prism]

dont focus hard on evo's early on

[true anchor]

What damage do you need for each char for max rift?

[vagrant mountain]

around 200-300b for rift 46 i think

[mellow kraken]

save for fractal or get rando?

[dapper prism]

Never get Fractal

[vagrant mountain]

fractal is good if you have 10k hrs of candies saved up with nothing better to use them on

[formal swift]

Aka never

Unless you have 1T gmush which you don’t

[weak vector]

Can fractal if you quit for a year

But yeah gmush would be better

[formal swift]

Canafk at gmush for a year

[weak vector]

I thought fractal was no other gains?

[formal swift]

Idk I don’t have it unlocked so not sure what counts for it besides candy on island

[fathom lagoon]

No gains

Like afk in town

[vagrant mountain]

you dont need 1T gmush lol, anything past like 20b is kinda meme

[summer sand]

hello, where i can find Orange totem tips?

[formal swift]

Sounds like your stamps are

[vagrant mountain]

could be higher but the only thing higher gmush does for me is meme refinery speed

[formal swift]

There’s more stamps than that one that cost dumb amount of godshard which leads to the inevitability w6 stamps costing way too much

[rough wasp]

You're right you need 1Q gmush

[formal swift]

So I rather have the money for that then useless bonuses

[fathom lagoon]

?

[rough wasp]

Monkeyshard

[dapper prism]

Idk about you but i made like 450k+ Godshards in the past few days?
https://i.imgur.com/qIpKt4x.png

[summer sand]

I know it was here, but can't find it. I mean how to beat it to 50 wave.

[fathom lagoon]

Should be on citringes map. As for beating wave 50 there’s a guide floating around you can prob search and find it

[dapper prism]

Dont have low tower stuff but honestly, 99% of TD is the same nowdays with Equinox.
https://i.imgur.com/nxBACIC.png

Typically 3x Kraken, 1 Frozen, 3 Kraken, 1 Frozen. on the longest path.
Then on the other path you'd have void and poison etc hitting it, obv citringe is a bit flat so you gotta fill in some stuff into it

[vagrant mountain]

do you know if it is 0.40 kraken speed breakpoint for every map?

[dapper prism]

I've heard 0.42 ive heard 0.47. Idk but either way not much point pushing Party on anything else besides AAAA

[vagrant mountain]

good to know

i've heard 0.40 kraken speed for perma kraken hold for 200 glublin

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/VovPzAp.png

[vagrant mountain]

maybe today will be the day i conquer my fear of TD xD

[dapper prism]

Dont do it, its a trap

[vagrant mountain]

i think it's about time

[dapper prism]

oh god, disgusting 👀 😉

[vagrant mountain]

xD

hoping for at least 121 for the dream xD

[static basin]

wdym at least, you can get 170 all with a 71 poison

[stable kayak]

Hello Guys, Is this worth it? my last Thing unlock was the Elephant

[static basin]

and 190 or 200 glublin

[dapper prism]

Never worth it, never use it.

[vagrant mountain]

you gotta aim low so that you can be pleasantly surprised instead of mildly disappointed

[dapper prism]

Only 1-2 situations but even then, not really worth it

[stable kayak]

Thank you so much!

[dapper prism]

The only time it would technically be worth it, is if you are candy grinding colo 2. Since you cant use the +DR +HP prayer since HP scales the resource nodes making a single run way way longer. HOWEVER this is to tedious as you would have to unequip your samples to unequip Royal Printer Prayer, just to not have any prayers. Hence why it's honestly just terrible and never worht using.

[worn sonnet]

It only counts afk in town or on fractal island

Anything where it says nothing

[dapper prism]

Either way, Fractal is a terrible unlock 👀

[vagrant mountain]

i really want the extra nugs ngl

[dapper prism]

Not worth the 41.7 days of ALL 10/10 alts doing nothing imo

[vagrant mountain]

i'm hoping ill have enough candy for it by the time i have it unlocked

or at least enough colo tickets to grind the candies

im at about 4k hours of candy + 340/570 bottles

[dapper prism]

i dump my bottled into random 😄

[vagrant mountain]

i was super tempted to do that xD

[dapper prism]

With that 10k hours i'd rather get my 100b gmush up by another 250b than to have a temporary nugget boost xD

[vagrant mountain]

whatever gets me closer to the last superbit

[vagrant mountain]

what did you dump your bottles into btw? was it worth it?

ive been really tempted to pump the double boss upgrade

for more food lust procs

[dapper prism]

you balance em

[chrome tiger]

w6 launch (not soon)

launch soon confirmed

need to start a betting pool

[dapper prism]

idk but i called farming months ago, do i get a prize? 👀

[polar light]

Yeah but what's the other 2

[chrome tiger]

tilling and potioning

[polar light]

Correct guesses win one blue gem

[dapper prism]

Yup, Farming with herbology/potions

[gray pagoda]

Blue gems used to unlock skills probably

[old crane]

isn't alch/vials basically potion stuff?

[dapper prism]

Nope

Vials is a passive

Alch would be actual potions. Could go as far as timed effects tbh

[polar light]

You talking like making our own stat potion consumables

[dapper prism]

Fram for mats, get a potion, able to consume/use the potion, either like equiped or consume for an X time buff. That way you need to farm more.
Along that you'd need to figure out the recipes for those potions, some luck included.

[old crane]

Equipable/consumable potion kinda things could be good

[dapper prism]

I prefer consumed X time potion

[polar light]

Make a potion slot in the food tab if that were the case

[dapper prism]

Else we sacrifice limited food/pot slots

Thats why just consume if for the X duration buff. "oh let me go vman bossing, let's drink this basic x0.5 DR pot or should i use my very rare one at x2.0" either only lasting X time

Idk, this would just add more strategy and planning to certain tasks than just "unlocked a permanent passive"

[polar light]

Is there anything in game that uses a mechanic like that? Consume from inventory and is on a timer?

[dapper prism]

No, that's why it would be interesting to use and build up on from w6-8

[polar light]

Dunno what that would have to be like code wise

[old crane]

Similar to a buff from a skill maybe

[void belfry]

guys ive got all s tier !gemshop bonusses, should my next bonus be the zen cog or a second bleach cauldron

[polar light]

Since he couldn't rip it from another mechanic

[dapper prism]

lol, nothing hard about that to code

[cyan shuttle]

last gui-de done now you can do every td, no more excuses to be lazy

[dapper prism]

pretty much exactly the same.

[ancient vine]

Cauldron seems more important imo because more capacity=more tries to upgrade

[polar light]

I'm just waiting for the real update. Player skins

[grizzled elk]

hes probably saving that for his last cash cow

[prisma drift]

Thank you sir I’m using w4 rn

[polar light]

He can milk my card for some player skins

[true anchor]

Ah ok I’m at like 6 bil rn so I’ll probably just try for construct

[fathom lagoon]

Fuckin goatski

[lapis mesa]

all hail the Pancake

[oblique peak]

ive never farmed obols and i think mine are just a mess, how did you guys start on obols?

[polar light]

Got obols while farming statues

[prisma drift]

Dr obols first

I did dice because I had choco

And had faster dice then pop drops

[polar light]

I have 13x and pop obols are still very annoying to get

[oblique peak]

im currently at giga frogs with my ES, should i switch to statue farming? im getting a decent amount here

so i just max out my personal obols and family obols with pop? and then skilling set ups?

[prisma drift]

Well pop for the circles yeah

Skilling is from alchemy

Start buying the first two obols from shop

[oblique peak]

okay

obols are a pain lol

[prisma drift]

Easy later game

[polar light]

I treat obols as happy little accidents while doing other things

[vagrant mountain]

technically you can candy pop obols just saying

[polar light]

I would if I werent using my candy for green stacks

[oblique peak]

i guess the painful part is the management of them since i can only hold like 20, should i just save pop and skilling ones and fragment the rest?

[polar light]

At first nuke all obols that aren't drop rate

You need the reroll mats to max them out

[prisma drift]

You can candy dice too

[fathom lagoon]

W6 confirmed 2024

[vagrant mountain]

this is my secret tech

[prisma drift]

Yeah I also filter obols lol

Wow lava giving me time to fix my mining samples too

[vagrant mountain]

some would say it's a forbidden tech

[polar light]

I need too many fragments to filter obols rn

[worn sonnet]

Damn even the gold got filtered

This mf doesnt care about frags

[polar light]

An absolute madman

[dapper prism]

obol storage full, cant pick it up anyways

[sacred verge]

wdym

[woeful knot]

#💖future-content-blog message is he saying w6 won’t come out for awhile

[dapper prism]

Then the rope pic is kinda terrible marketing

[woeful knot]

E

[vapid cove]

lava clearing up the drop

either way its fine with me

[worn sonnet]

I'm really not expecting w6 until january at the earliest

[vapid cove]

ive got plenty of farming to do

[ancient vine]

Let's see how much HP last map mobs Will have

[worn sonnet]

When he starts posting mob drops you'll know we're getting close

[ancient vine]

Maybe they just do lotta damage and the Option is active

Welp i'll farm hampsters and lava skulls while world 6 waiting

[mellow kraken]

so the sailing relic that makes shrines global specifies it doesn't count for shrine leveling, but does the lab node let you level up shrines? if i have all my shrines in W4 town and people farming clammies, will i be getting shrine levels out of it?

[worn sonnet]

You need both to level

[mellow kraken]

not sure i follow what you mean

[chrome tiger]

i think they only level up if you're in the same map, period

[mellow kraken]

ok i just tested because why wouldn't i, my shrines gained experience from claiming afk gains on someone in clammies while the shrines are all in w4 town

[dapper anchor]

where are the guides for the TD lvls?

[chrome tiger]

really

so it works in the same world?

[mellow kraken]

im guessing its the lab node

[obtuse rover]

Copy and paste this string into the search bar for the discord (make sure you have access to the endgame channel)

from: pancakex. guide in: endgame-talk

[mellow kraken]

the way the sailing relic specifies it won't count, but lab doesn't have that clarification so it must be lab

[chrome tiger]

well shit, i should have left all my shrines in w5 ages ago

[mellow kraken]

i was wondering how i'd ever get 140 total shrine levels with everyone off div altar/lab right now, but i got the task for 120 total levels randomly so i had to check

[worthy helm]

Is there a better way to do the lava skull rifts?

This is driving me insane

[zinc torrent]

lava said w6 not soon, this is real?

[tulip kayak]

100mil bean kills

[worthy helm]

Prob next 2-4 months

[zinc torrent]

very long time im sad 😦

[chrome tiger]

does IT have shrines?

cant find it

oh in general

[tall horizon]

instructions unclear, didnt work

[worn sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-in-time-run-hat-kid-die-angry-gif-25471741

[tall horizon]

someone was gonna do it 😛 so why not me

[obtuse rover]

You're so right 😔
I'll try to do better next time

[mellow kraken]

time for me to actually finish w5 then 😮

[tall horizon]

Thats all we can ask

[tulip kayak]

welp guess I need to upgrade atom thing

[gilded orchid]

lol w6 is officially (not soon) 😂

[fast grail]

I mean, with w5, he started posting about it a full 6 months before release

[quiet pewter]

things players want: content
things lava wants to do: pixel art
its gonna be a while

[chrome tiger]

w6 release feburary 22 2024 confirmed

[quiet pewter]

what am i looking at here? frog carries two shocked eels?

[desert night]

Close, blueberry carrying church organ pipes.

[spice meadow]

And here i was thinking that w6 would release december lol

At least i can get voidwalker and end the grind of divinity (i hope)

[rain summit]

Lava says it isn't soon ... expect to be trolled.

[sharp ruin]

Not soon, very soon!

We’re just waiting for iOS before drop

🥹

[polar light]

Not soon means tomorrow

[spice meadow]

Not soon means 2025

[shrewd pollen]

👀 any sort of tool to use for sailing optimization?

[lyric sequoia]

W6 patch just dropped waow

[cyan shuttle]

removed any text containing that word between them so it's easier to search

like, only them appear now

in the search

[obtuse rover]

[proud pumice]

with construction mastery unlocked, how do you balance between lvling the towers you want and the easy to lvl towers? Should you just prioritize the easy to lvl towers for some time?

[worn sonnet]

Have the good ones in your good slots

[zealous niche]

Cost reduction doesn’t go over 95%, so stop leveling those until all that don’t have 95% are in your slots

[upper kayak]

I have a question about sailing. Since the speed caps at 2 hours, should I stop upgrading boat speed and only upgrade loot value once I can see that the boat only takes 2 hours for trips?

[zealous niche]

I have void and poison in my guilded slots at all times

[worn sonnet]

Keep upgrading. You can get speed below 2 hours

[lyric sequoia]

Void? Kraken or party surely

[cyan shuttle]

i just did poison always in trimmed and the other towers cycling on the other 2 trimmed slots, the easiest ones each time

[zealous niche]

Void takes ages

[worn sonnet]

And also the later islands get huge distance

[lyric sequoia]

Surely you'll get way more out of kraken or party being at 90 vs void at 60

[upper kayak]

Okay thanks :)

[zealous niche]

Maybe, but as I said there, cost reduction to 95% is what matters most, range is irrelevant on party for me since it reaches the full map wherever they are

[paper sail]

Speed to aim for is about 62m or so. That lets you reach the final island in ~97 minutes. If you get your lowest time down below 97, then you would need more speed again

[cyan shuttle]

what do you think i should put on trimmed, too many choices

[zealous niche]

Can’t remember the bonus on kraken, but I’d think void in guilded is a better return

[lyric sequoia]

Definitely the first tower, strongest there is

[upper kayak]

Damn alright, got a long way to go xD

[cyan shuttle]

kraken is good because it's eye spawn time, the most important thing with equinox

[obtuse rover]

Woodular shrine, the greatest power-scaler in Idleon

[paper sail]

It sounds like a lot, but my fastest ship is 401m so you can definitely go way above 😂

[cyan shuttle]

someone in some months will watch these old screens and will laugh because cons becomes useless with infinite buffs

that makes even the most noob max everything in 1 second

(like cooking)

[obtuse rover]

It's the way of the world

[worn sonnet]

Can't wait for atoms to be considered the thing you gotta go back and level after reaching w7

[zealous niche]

You say that like alchemy isn’t going to keep on being expanded

[clear quartz]

SOON

[paper sail]

Alchemy was (sort of) a watered down version of Apothecary from Idle Skilling. With what looks like Gardening coming, maybe Alchemy dies and we get Alchemy 2: The revenge of Apothecary

[polar light]

I can't wait to farm billions of hard to get resources after rolling a .2% chance on an unlock a couple times a day

[clear quartz]

slowly climbin, but still

[paper sail]

I can't wait for this next gaming mutation to be added and watch my 137k dna go 👋

[signal osprey]

Someone send help

[fathom lagoon]

How many cards is it from 4* to 5*?

I don’t have ruby unlocked yet

[obtuse rover]

It's a little under 29x more cards than you already have by 4-star in order to reach 5-star.

[tall horizon]

404 + 404
2 negatives are a positive
You found the secret to 100m nug

[dapper prism]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards

Depends, Chaotic Chizoar goes from 24 4* to 16 for 5*

[obtuse rover]

And what a fabulous choice of card to be bugged like that.

[dapper prism]

I was a newbie who cardified that 👀

[fathom lagoon]

Thank you and holy crap some of them are crazy

[dapper prism]

Then again, i was over a month away from rift 31 so meh

[fathom lagoon]

45900 for wurms lol

[dapper prism]

but wurms and crystals are ez af...

https://i.imgur.com/RWex8HJ.png

[fathom lagoon]

Yea true im already at 3300 and haven’t farmed it long

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/LEIt0BY.png

Getting close to 8 digits?

[fathom lagoon]

Sheeeesh

I’m at 23k crystal

[rich epoch]

[fathom lagoon]

I wanna see what I’m at after the statue grind

[dapper prism]

23.1k

So.. are we all ready to start Farming and Herbology on Tuesday?

[clear quartz]

oh its that soon? nice

[obtuse rover]

It might be a Tuesday

[clear quartz]

mine smol :c

[dapper prism]

Need more grind

[azure spindle]

so grinding ruby nightmare boss cards is just virtually impossible right?

[obtuse rover]

No, people do some seriously mundane things in this game

[azure spindle]

that sounds so painful looking at the numbers needed

[dapper prism]

2295 Cards for NM Kattle
2052 Cards left for NM Kattle after doing 10/10 alts for cape drop Quest.
So ~ 250 cards and that was several K keys on average per alt 👀

[gilded orchid]

Nerd 🤓

[obtuse rover]

It's easier to do the lower-world bosses for their cards

[gilded orchid]

Pushing hard I see, all because of Doot

You changed

[patent hatch]

what is the map layout for frosty firefight?

[tall horizon]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496

[formal minnow]

So I finally got the nugget upgrade from equinox.. my first upgrade from it? A 250 point increase from my previous nugget.... so that was a waste of a buildup for 3 days

[patent hatch]

ty

[dapper prism]

Thats still a lil outdated on some 😦

[tall horizon]

Should be up to date on all

[dapper prism]

#endgame-gen-chat message

Citringe

[tall horizon]

pancake completed the last td and he sent me links to them

[pearl pebble]

im a noob when it comes to sailing. based off of my current progress what is recommended i go for next https://p0st_macone.idleonefficiency.com/

[dapper prism]

Yours is going to May

[tall horizon]

no its not?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, your TD6 goes ehre: #endgame-gen-chat message

[tall horizon]

Not for me?

do a refresh?

thats the one I just updated a bit ago

[obtuse rover]

For the hippest TD guides on the market, search the following string (with access to endgame channel)

from: pancakex. guide in: endgame-talk

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/i1Tyezu.gif

[wind umbra]

you put the new link on td 45

td5*

[pearl pebble]

also does this apply as a pssive or only when linked

[tall horizon]

oh damn i did

[dapper prism]

Should probably lable them not TD1-6 but rather like Pancake, W1 Gublin, W1 Acorn type thing

[dapper prism]

blessing is passive, non-link

[pearl pebble]

ok ty

also i assume bunny is useless

[dapper prism]

wow.. I see how it is 😦

[pearl pebble]

lmao

[dapper prism]

Here I was, going to ask why you havnt bought the next captain slot+boat if you own the gold.

[pearl pebble]

-quits game-

[tall horizon]

Fixed both, ty.

[pearl pebble]

oh i actually did do that, but idk if it updated

[dapper prism]

Sorrryyy I cant hear you over the Block

[pearl pebble]

greenstacks bunnies

theyre not useless i swear!

[dapper prism]

Wow, now you're just trapping those precious animals 👀

btw, bunny is pretty nice, good 3d printing, good atoms, and nice for money grind

================
Was Divinity gain both XP + Points, i forgot

[obtuse rover]

Bunny is a very good god

[pearl pebble]

oops

[obtuse rover]

Hare, that is.

[pearl pebble]

better than bear?

[dapper prism]

different reasons to use

[pearl pebble]

i guess everything in my lab past the shrine thing is not that necessary

and stamps

[obtuse rover]

Different gods will be used for different priorities.

A lot of players will want strong prints on their warriors and wizards to finance atoms and alchemy, and they'll want strong money% to finance stamps.

Hare god is an important part of that.

[dapper prism]

Specifically when you're done unlocking the core gods. (upto Tiger)

[obtuse rover]

If you slap hare god on your wizards/warriors and then sit them in lab, you can get 6x prints from them. ES can accomplish the same with its double-link, while doing something else.

[pearl pebble]

hm so it is pretty good then

[dapper prism]

So 2x ES in Lab with Goat god while 2nd god(talent) being Bunny. (others mixed stuff to still push div but also have lab on) Then active farm Bubo with bear

Orrrr... just

[pearl pebble]

i dont have goat, RIP

[obtuse rover]

I can't justify Dootbucks

[pearl pebble]

doot sounds a little op

lol

[dapper prism]

still gotta unlock gods for Tiger and for all the blessings though

but yes, not managing gods and always having all alts avail without worrying about lab is nice.

[gray loom]

what is the skilling speed cap?

[obtuse rover]

62 for chopping and mining

[gray loom]

is it relatively easy to hit? should I level action frenzy?

[obtuse rover]

You should level action frenzy, yeah.

[gray loom]

okay thanks

much appreciated 🙏

[obtuse rover]

Eventually you'll be able to cap with just 1 food for speed, but a lot of earlier accounts will need event food to hit the speed cap, so every bit helps.

[gray loom]

oh okay thanks that information helps, i forgot the food boosts speed, Ill see what im at with the event foods equipped thanks

[dapper prism]

At least you're aware theres skill speed, which is a big plus already 😄

Also Remember that each FIRST tool on a new smithing tab gives more skill speed.

[solid lantern]

did the equanox overflow have a limit btw?

or is it now continious?

[dapper prism]

It's always been continuous

[solid lantern]

*for alchemy vial

[calm gust]

Where Is cosmetic section in gemshop

[dapper prism]

Now confused what you mean

[solid lantern]

oh? I thought people said it stops at 1 over and stops there?

[obtuse rover]

Lava deleted it so he can try to generate FOMO for the items by putting them in the limited shop.

[solid lantern]

the thing that allows for afk bubo

I know it stops and you have to level it up once to get it, but does it keep over flowing?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, so that can and always has been able to overlow indefinetely since Equinox release

[solid lantern]

ahhhhh

ok

[dapper prism]

Like Cap could be 60k/5.03k

[solid lantern]

wait, so with it

[dapper prism]

And then when you Decant you may get like 10ish cap levels (due to cost increase per upgrade)

[solid lantern]

it then makes it no reason to have the extra cap then?

unless you're buying things

and or hourly click

[dapper prism]

Kinda, the overflow automatically goes 50-50% into cap-rate

But it makes buying GT easier with a bigger cap, but surely more efficient to manually dump into Rate if you are active at the time

and your CAP is way overleveled compared to Rate...

[obtuse rover]

Higher cap is pretty important quality of life for pumping GT

For me, anyways

[dapper prism]

Yeh, but not at those lower levels

[calm gust]

This existed?!?

[dapper prism]

Equinox

[obtuse rover]

Only in this newest patch

[calm gust]

No the decant feature

[dapper prism]

Yes. It was released with "this newest patch" called the "Equinox"

[obtuse rover]

Oh, that, forever

Like the ability to decant?

[dapper prism]

Oh wait what...

[calm gust]

I recently found the one for cauldrens

[dapper prism]

Panda confusing me now

[calm gust]

Hold on

This

[dapper prism]

thats not a liquid cauldron

[calm gust]

But on the liquid ones

I didn't know about these features until a week ago o.o

[pale crag]

It is a very old feature

[calm gust]

Dang

[obtuse rover]

There's a lot to learn in the game, so it makes sense if you haven't been playing too long

[dapper prism]

You literally open that UI to unlock new bubbles and never seemed to click "Boost" ? xD

[pale crag]

True

[calm gust]

It's been a year...

[pale crag]

Thats not a short time

[calm gust]

I never knew these features and stumbled across it

[obtuse rover]

Lol sorry, I just assumed based on the purple cauldron levels that you might not have spent much time on alchemy yet.

[pale crag]

The more you know

[calm gust]

I thought it wasn't as good XD I think I am pretty early on in-game as my dmg is less than 10mil and no 1mil or more items yet XD

[dapper prism]

Definetely push 2x Extra boost more, focus Extra + Speed for a bit.

[obtuse rover]

Another thing a lot of people don't know about alchemy:

It's cheaper to upgrade your bubbles in the orange/green/purple cauldrons if you do it while playing the class that matches that colour (warrior/archer/mage, respectively).

The discount is because of the 2 bubbles that make small bubbles more effective for the class matching the cauldron, which boosts a bubble that offers a discount to bubble prices.

[pale crag]

What does extra do ?

[dapper prism]

Chance at 2x , 3x upgrades at once

[pale crag]

Aah thanks

[calm gust]

Thx

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/4Gh0IF1.png

[pale crag]

I got every bubble so should I max the boost stuff

[dapper prism]

Like 100% means always +2. 150% is always +2and 50% of the time its +3, or 200% means always +3 levels at once on these boosts.

So you want Extra in combination of speed to basically maximize both the amount of brew you get and the upgrades. then boost luck/cost

Luck if you're pushing to unlock bubbles, Cost if you're trying to upgrade them, either way this gets very easy to max once you start doing proper bubo CC

[calm gust]

Any construction tips? Stuck at 20k build speed for a while

[pale crag]

Is 100k cc enough?

[dapper prism]

Only have Squires on board, have all cogs be XP

BR cogs is irrelevant, you want XP and more XP

Directional XP, and more XP

[calm gust]

Ok

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

some older thing that may help

[calm gust]

Also what should my 8th 9th and 10th characters be

[obtuse rover]

The most common thing to do is
3 warriors, 3 archers, 3 mages, 1 beginner

And people usually recommend
2 DK for warriors
2 SB for archers
2 ES for mages

But slight variations on the meta are also not the end of the world.

[calm gust]

K thx

[sinful aurora]

Well, not 2 dk kinda is the end of the world tbh. At least the end of the construction world.

[eternal dove]

NO SHOT

@dapper prism did i win?

only claimed 1 t5 chem

[dapper prism]

wow

Gz

Im still waiting for mine 👀

[slender sandal]

[calm gust]

.9% pretty high odds I got tree in 1 percent pretty quick

[foggy briar]

Is this +1.5x or is it "Total Class XP" x 1.5?

[sharp wind]

What lvl larry 110%

[slender sandal]

1100

[pearl pebble]

should i be worrying about ancient artifacts rn

[sharp wind]

Thanks

[muted bramble]

what is the generic prayer set up to run ?

[calm gust]

More the bettet

[obtuse rover]

Depends what you're doing

[muted bramble]

right now setting up both my BB to do cooking for laddles

[calm gust]

Max mob hp then fight anything but bosses

[muted bramble]

I just never put prayer on my second one so kinda forgot how that works

[eternal dove]

whys it taking so long???? only took 1 t5 lmaoo

[obtuse rover]

Then you want the dimwit prayer, zerg rushogen, and probably royal sampler is already on

[gray loom]

should you max out royal sampler prayer? it seems im already at 90% rate

[dapper prism]

Nope

[obtuse rover]

The latter, I'm pretty sure.

It's not the end of the world to max it though, so you're by no means screwed if it is.

[dapper prism]

That's actually the good one, 50% more (not 0.5x)

[gray loom]

yeah its level 18 so i might have over did it slightly but thanks

[muted bramble]

alright i put those on

[calm gust]

What does maxing giants prayer do?

[obtuse rover]

Nothing

[calm gust]

O

[oblique peak]

is there a place to do ie reviews? idk what i should be working on and have stagnated :/

[calm gust]

Rip my 500 souls XD

[muted bramble]

one of these isnt like the other

[calm gust]

It's the shiny logs from 2019

[muted bramble]

was more along the line of Character

one of them doesnt have a letter in its printing amount

God tier 179 Horn

[clear quartz]

whats the best way to get the critter vials? super short duration traps and forgo preserving mental?

or just do 10hrs and forget

[modern path]

Wheres customer service

[oblique peak]

do the 8-10 hrs dawg, dont burn out

[dapper prism]

10 or 40h traps Royal

[calm gust]

Down the hall to the left

[modern path]

Thanks

[calm gust]

Maybe right Idk I'm colorblind

[clear quartz]

ooo 40h, hmm

[dapper prism]

You can typically ask people in here, but I recommend cleaning up the IE before posting it. There's a lot anyone can see and do, by just going through each tab themselves.

• Did you claim books, do miniboss, claim keys, empty anvil, buy anvil points, check your stamps/alchemy and lvl the basics etc. (before posting)

[calm gust]

Killroy

[clear quartz]

some of these sigils feel totally trivial now, unless we get some godforsaken bonus that scales off how many total sigil lvls.... cant imagine wanting to go and lvl tuft of hair or test tube

[calm gust]

Achievements too

[oblique peak]

yeah i need to catch up on a couple of those 😅

not sure what to book honestly, too many options

[calm gust]

Vip

[obtuse rover]

Those will likely just be things you do because there's literally nothing else to do

[calm gust]

Yup

Sigil very boring

[clear quartz]

fair. i guess we will see what happens with new bubbles and all that jazz

[dapper prism]

if you dont have the 1k achievement, anything is better than none, typically tab 1 bottom left for effy and tab 2 bottom left for the active skill talen on mage/warri. and anything else that gives effy like that. If you still need dmg then the usual dmg talents

[obtuse rover]

And yet, sigils can also be fascinating

[dapper prism]

wtf

[obtuse rover]

There are many mysteries in the world of Idleon 🕴️

[polar light]

That uhh is definitely a mystery

[wind umbra]

how did that happen

[calm gust]

Science

[polar light]

Spaghetti

[calm gust]

😉

[muted bramble]

What in the photoshop hatecrime is going on here

[worn sonnet]

This guy doesn't want an extra 72% xp

[obtuse rover]

If you're curious how this picture happened:

When sigils were first released there was a major problem with the code.

Lava was quick to rollback sigil progress back to square 1 and patch the problem.

But after returning to the game something curious happened. The characters were supposedly still occupied in alchemy. They were supposedly still in the sigil cauldrons they were placed in before the rollback.

It was unclear if they were actually progressing anything, because the tiles were totally locked up and you couldn't interact with them.

But if you waited, and waited long enough, they would actually level up the sigil they were sitting in even though it was still locked.

It didn't even matter if you had access to that sigil normally yet, it would still unlock at the appropriate time and let you move onto the next one.

[polar light]

Spaghetti was correct

[stuck pasture]

I’m actually super tempted to use Open AIs new personal GPTs to make an automated Idleon Q&A / profile reviewer

[obtuse rover]

It didn't really provide any practical advantage in the long run, but it's a really amusing picture to me

[muted bramble]

this is my sigil so far...

[dapper prism]

There's a non-AI made reviewer currently in the works that rates each category based on tiers, all I can say for now 😉

[muted bramble]

my guy not even dropping hints, just straight up nukes as clue

[stuck pasture]

Thank god! The stuff dreams are made of

[worn sonnet]

I might have gone too far in places

[polar light]

All tiers = D-

[obtuse rover]

Can't be too far if they're not all gold

[worn sonnet]

Tuft of hair is literally useless

[obtuse rover]

Kind of surprised you haven't got the eggplant gold food bonus one yet

[muted bramble]

what are the ones i dont have unlocked that you have ?

[worn sonnet]

And the rest aren't much better

Eggplant is the only one I might

[obtuse rover]

Gold food effect is pretty good

The liquid regen one is worth doing, too, if you like GT

[worn sonnet]

in order: kitchen cost, lab xp, liquid regen, sailing treasure +

[dapper prism]

Dont gold, push for pea pod (faster sigil rate) and get that gold before touching stuff

[worn sonnet]

And the one I don't have is div xp

[muted bramble]

Appreciate it

[dapper prism]

IE shows them too btw

[muted bramble]

BUT IM LAZY

[obtuse rover]

With the sailing artifact that multiplies sigil effects, some of them are actually pretty decent boosts

[dapper prism]

I need to finish this xD
https://i.imgur.com/aD3AoIE.png

[rich epoch]

is crystal countdown still bugged?

[muted bramble]

"need to finish" got no one in it...

[worn sonnet]

I wish tuft gave an alt boost for having 175% like the star talent does

[dapper prism]

Thats why I need to finish it..

[worn sonnet]

At least it wouldn't be literally useless

[dapper prism]

but pushing Liquids and GT atm :/

[muted bramble]

GT ?

[dapper prism]

Grind Time, XP

[muted bramble]

oh nice, i need to work on that too i need to get all to lvl500... but my highest is like 450 ish

[obtuse rover]

Gotta hit those triple-digit XP multipliers

[clear quartz]

DK is gonna be my first 500, but yeah, everyone else is a slacker

[worn sonnet]

w6 should make the level 500 dream easy

[muted bramble]

just another 3 years until W6 we close

[rich epoch]

halp

[obtuse rover]

Bugged in what sense?

[clear quartz]

bugged in what way?

[obtuse rover]

It's not bugged in the way it was like well over a year ago

[rich epoch]

in a bugged way

lmao

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/H3CG0h1.png

[tall horizon]

ccd bug has been fixed for a very long time

[rich epoch]

I read it used to not matter if you leveled it up

[worn sonnet]

Somebody has asked if crystal countdown is bugged like evvery day this week

I have never experienced a bug with it

[obtuse rover]

Yeah that was fixed a long, long time ago

[rich epoch]

that's how long I've been neglecting my maestro

thanks y'all 🙂

[dapper prism]

500 all alts* with w5 seems like it would still take forever

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-kill-roy-slaughter-gif-7959505670643576760

p-p-p-pearl powah!

[pearl pebble]

what is the difference between orange and pink

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/NI1D77v.png

33 levels isnt going to get me there xD

Poor BB and BM

[muted bramble]

isnt it the stat ?

[pearl pebble]

idk

[obtuse rover]

Ah, I see you're grinding levels for your BB
Putting in the work

[worn sonnet]

One is 2x from one source. one is 2x from the other source

[pearl pebble]

tf..

[worn sonnet]

and the third colour is both

hope this helps

[pearl pebble]

it does not

[fading plover]

Lol

[rich epoch]

just level them active. no need for respawn skill if then can't clear all mobs

[tall horizon]

white is normal, blue is 2x, star is 3x, purple is 6x

[pearl pebble]

ah okay, thank you. i see why its like that now

[worn sonnet]

Yeah this

[dapper prism]

3D printer colors
🍥 6x Purple is Rabbit + Lab
⭐ 3x Gold is just Rabbit
📘 2x Blue is just Lab

[rich epoch]

I bet endgamers can get enough mob respawn for it actually not matter. lmao

[tall horizon]

yup

[obtuse rover]

I love how 6x prints get to be naruto

[rich epoch]

it all the shadow clones printing

[tall horizon]

not letting me view where the narutopepe is from

[dapper prism]

I can dm you it? (the source)

[rich epoch]

from the depths of the abyss

[tall horizon]

just odd that it wont show

[dapper prism]

Maybe that helps

First time seeing/using it tbh, just searched naruto when it was brough up, was sure i would have an actual naruto emoji somewhere but nope

[tall horizon]

ya, guess thats how I was thinking of viewing its origin

[dapper prism]

It is a dead server that was moved to another one, so maybe they turned of some invites or something 🤷

[rich epoch]

sus

[tall horizon]

I just try to view them when i can, always looking for more emoji servers lol

[dapper prism]

I recently cleaned up my disc servers and left a bunch, just now realizing i lost some nice emojis

[rich epoch]

I wanted to leave my vman leveling at wurms for the night but I fear if I don't give it 3 recovery potions it will die

[summer glacier]

does bait n tackle matter for equinox fish?

[worn sonnet]

you want green

[rich epoch]

I'm using the defense food and it is helping. that is a first

I should probably change maps also because it takes too long to kill the crystals. like 4 attacks

only 180% crit chance

[oblique peak]

if anyone wants to take a look for me i'd appreciate it https://wannabetrolls.idleonefficiency.com/ , i was told to go straight to div in w5 to train div and lab simultaneously, but my spices and meals are lacking so i couldnt even fill in my chip slots if i wanted to, so thats why i havent went to hard on div(plus there was a lot of cleaning up i needed to do). things im currently working on is a small amount of card farming, upgrading weapons, anvil points, and getting more total levels. im trying to find ways to increase dps and get better prints, and wondering if i should start doing splicing, as i cant buy most weekly chips and jewels. since uploading ie ive done minibosses, books, key claims

[dapper prism]

Do you have doot?

[oblique peak]

i do not, f2p

[dapper prism]

Any specific reason you have all 9 alts pushing w5?

[oblique peak]

total levels

[dapper prism]

are you able to play active / e.g. have pc on overnight kinda thing?

[oblique peak]

for the most part, currently active on ES to get some rares/cards but might put in w5 for total levels as its only 140

[dapper prism]

ill brb

[oblique peak]

np, just @ me if any of you want to give advice, is appreciated 🙂

[zenith gulch]

is dreadlo or kruk armor better for voidwalker, all stats vs drop chance and mob respawn for speedruns

also for sampling

[dapper prism]

You mean Magma, but kruk is better than Magma, could use Magma head/feet for stats and Divine (kattle/kruk) top and legs

[zenith gulch]

ye

[dapper prism]

Are you able to voice chat, rather just walk you through this than type, but else i can type some stuff down.

[oblique peak]

yeah i can vc

[split orbit]

worth saving gems for w6?

[worn sonnet]

probs

[slender sandal]

if you're a spender there will 100% be a new bundle at launch

but we also probably have awhile before w6 so you can save up quite a bit before then

[potent maple]

ok so i'm getting the understanding of what hourly clicks are but find it overwhelming, are there best bubbles to start with to get going on it?

i'm sure i'll figure out more over time but just a starting point would help

[obtuse rover]

The 1st bubble for the non-yellow cauldrons are all easy to get clickable samples for and reliably provide good value to your account, no matter what.

[potent maple]

those are the stat ones yeah?

do i wanna put my fisher on ore samples too or leave as fish?

[obtuse rover]

Bubble 3 on orange and green are both easy to print and provide good value, too
(orange 3 gives better samples, green 3 gives more anvil mat speed)

[obtuse rover]

That sort of depends on where you're at and what you need.

If you aren't done* fishing-related vials then keep printing fish
If you are able to print a massive amount of goldfish or other low-tier fish, consider doing that
If you have enough fish to do everything you want right now (enough to pay for stamps, all fish-related bubbles cost 1b, etc.), but you're not ready to start hourly-clicking a fish-related bubble or something, then you might want to spend most of your time printing ore.

[potent maple]

my main focus right now is vials so i can deposit statues again but if i don't go all ADHD i think i'll be able to march through those

but i've been playing way too long to have such a noob acct

[obtuse rover]

It's super reasonable to take a less-hardcore approach to Idleon.
Nothing wrong with not making optimal progress. It's a massive pain to worry too much about doing the "best possible thing"

[potent maple]

i'm just getting to that point where IE is always telling me i'm at max copper and stuff, so I might as well use it

[pearl cedar]

If you're not playing the Meta why even bother

[potent maple]

and once i get started, it'll become second nature i assume. i have trickz's graphic up in a browser so that'll help

how will i know it's time to move on to focusing on the next bubble? like a certain level of bubble or something?

or when it gets max resources?

[obtuse rover]

The comfiest way to get started hourly clicking is probably what I mentioned:

Just try to do bubble 1 for the non-yellow cauldrons first.
If you feel like it at bubble 3 for orange/green
Then add from there if/when you want to

[slender sandal]

the alchemy heatmap helps a lot too if you update it periodically

or just go by vibes

[obtuse rover]

Are you talking about hourly clicking, or daily atom uses?

[potent maple]

heatmap?

[potent maple]

use of like copper, not atoms. my atom production is not up to par

[slender sandal]

#1087501872002256966 message

[potent maple]

but i figure if i sample right, i'll end up with some more atom production as a side-effect

for when i'm not online clicking

[obtuse rover]

If you're doing hourly clicks for bubbles then there is never a stopping point, ideally.
If it can be clicked, click it.

The levels will provide some value on their own, but they'll also make sure that your free levels from NBLB will never be wasted on those bubbles and will instead hit the tough-to-level bubbles more often.

You only need to think about where to spend the limited atom-level-ups per day.

[slender sandal]

and the answer to that isn't quick slap

😄

[pearl cedar]

Quickslap life

10 more days

[potent maple]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-unlimited-power-over9000-power-level-gif-12316102

[obtuse rover]

That's a pretty fast slap.

[clear quartz]

whew, almost got scammazzed by stupid barely larger nug

pretty much at the point where ill never clear out these chems tho

[obtuse rover]

You have a button that can end it all at any time.

[clear quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-push-gif-14610899

maybe ill save up and get the t7 thing so i can get an accidental 7 chem

[open ore]

i never get any t7, they just doint want to evolve past t6

[vapid cove]

from what i remember the color change is a multiplier in prints isnt it?

[obtuse rover]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Like Trickz said, 6x prints is naruto

[pale smelt]

Any td guide for goblin 130+?

[obtuse rover]

Enter this string into the search bar for the discord:

from: pancakex. guide in: endgame-talk

Just make sure you have access to the endgame channel

[pale smelt]

I'm new to the discord so I don't think I do

[eternal dove]

hmmmm do i claim my t7 chem and see how much time it gives?

[obtuse rover]

#👀read-me message

Go here and click the peanut to get access to the channel

[pale smelt]

Cheers man

[obtuse rover]

Well, it's not going to become anything better 🤷‍♂️

[eternal dove]

true but it also looks nice

i mean look at it

[obtuse rover]

It's true, I get not wanting to lose it.

[eternal dove]

havent i lost enough in this life

ok im gonna do it

oh it gives 2 days

[open ore]

at this point i think i cant get a t7
where do i see if i can get it

[eternal dove]

do you have the top right most super bit?

[open ore]

ye

[eternal dove]

then your able to get it abliet they uber rare

[obtuse rover]

If you have 3 "PLANT EVO" things unlocked in your superbits then you can get all 7 tiers

[open ore]

ye it says it is rare
but i spend so much time in it, and i dont have 1

[eternal dove]

i got extremely lucky on my t7 chem

[obtuse rover]

I have a calculator in the tips-n-tricks section that tells you how long you might need to wait on average to find 1.

It's typically the equivalent of many years of time on average before finding 1 T7 plant

[open ore]

my full gaming room is full of cacteen of t6

and i dont want to claim them xD

[obtuse rover]

Literally all 20 spots?

[open ore]

all 20 are cacteen ye, 3 of them are t5 atm

all other t6

[obtuse rover]

You'll make progress much faster by chem-looping, rather than just holding plants and doing nothing with them for a long time.

With chem looping you can make the equivalent of literally >1 year worth of progress in gaming every day if you go hard, which will lead to high-tier plants faster, too.

[open ore]

can u explain how to chem-loop
im not realy active here, and i never saw something like that

[obtuse rover]

If you don't have chemical plants unlocked yet, then try to unlock them ASAP.

Never bother saving up DNA from harvesting plants. Literally after each time you harvest your garden, just click the button to try to unlock the next plant, even if the chance is very low.

It's much more efficient that way.

[open ore]

i unlocke everything
i will try this for a bit
thank you :3

[void pulsar]

I reset my void talent points and lost all my points?