#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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How to increase your max lvl of talent books to the max?
You can also see it reflected in the afk gains in the screenshot
Wym? like library or you mean increasing the cap from library
Both?
Fury eldritch, achievement, salt lick, atom collider
And merit iirc
So there is a w3 automation arm that lets you use 20 books for a max level book, you increase it through the 1000 checkouts achievemtn and a sailing artifact
Yeah what they said
Sadge
Here's a more complete screenshot
whats the current max? should be 245 or no?
The good chips are all on my bowman
I can show cards and stuff too Ig but you can just see in the stats like the afk gains and respawn rate, my bowman should have a lot more kills per hour?!?!
How many SB afk gain? Cant see
Talent levels and attack bar I would assume?
Preset talent?
Rift slug legit carries
You could miss a lot of kills by not having all attacks on your bar
Hunter has no chips
He do be hungry
yea, got it.. i'm only missing doot
I dont have anything past sheepie
Yeppie
How much dmg does poker chip give?
Double checked my talent bar
It had everything equipped
But I am very very very stupid
the life of a free to play i guess hehe
Thanks everyone for the help... my bowman did not have survivability
I'm too used to the triangle in the top left but i guess I was in the sweet spot where it doesnt show up and my kph isnt so suspicous that I checked it
Ahhhhhh
And it doesnt show up on IT either lol
Put one food there and it should be fine
Yeh I'm good now
Actually while you're here could you help me with an issue I've been having for about a month now...
1300 defence 💀
My FMJ do be slaccking
Bro just print fruits
does the food effect star sign really affect golden food?
Too busy clicking cereal 😦
But yeah i need to get it ready for w6
Same
Yeah, you would need to get up your defence stamps also
itiswhatitis

been honestly shitting on my alchemy sigils... any way to get a better rate than from gem shop? just saw the last one is supposed to do sth for w6
That's not going to happen tbh sigils take way to long even with maxed out sigil charge rate
It will take me 16 days to get 8k xp with 4 people..... and it will be 96k xp until the w6 one is unlocked
For me
Including the ones leading up to it
yea, its insane... thought i'm missing something
Bugs from equinox
Something there, idk
Its bugs or logs, from what i remember-
Even with the lab bonus that x2 vials?
yup
Damn
oh yea then go for bubbles for sure. the bonuses from sigils are mostly shit anyway
Yeah!
hmm overnight got a 4th lucky lad
make sure you have the pay 2 win tab all max
you brewing on your bubo with max bubble breakthrough?
Not good with names lol
I hate rng
we all do lol
Hope that w6 inst based around that
Got maxed new alch bubble book on your bubo?
been dumping hundreds of hours, if not thousands worth of candy on dreadlo ore just to get a lucky lad trophy on vman... still ahvent gotten it
And iirc they also have a talent that gives alch spd to others in the same cauldron
What's your max lvl?
142
............ fair enough
Of the skill
(Ngl I am used to people with 245 max lvl)
Is it that bad?
thats bad luck i think i got it around 20 1 hours which is also surprising for me
oh man D:
ah im at 185 books i need to get the 2 sailing artifacts but no luck yet
I have been playing for more than 2 years....
Started playing like, 3-4 months
Now im on the divinity/lab grind
After this, i'll start the vman grind
ur kinda zooming real fast if you did that in 3-4 months
^
Fury relick is going to be such a boost when it comes... That's what i tell myself as I keep refreshing my boats
Got sheepie I am guessing?
Yes
I dont really think that
Sheepie, slug, and doot are the best pets tbh,
Dont have anything past sheepie lol
What mob are you stuck on
I want slug
doot gonna be massive if i can finally get my hands on it
Im not stuck
Where are you at?
Did not try going further
cap
doots the only one im missing
At this point im okay with not geting doot
also not cap mr dark souls 3
71/200 tries to get it guaranteed lol
I dont believe that i'll ever get it
Wanst it 1000?
na
no 200 tries to pity on doot
62/200 and I have two. I’ll give trade you once lava enables 😭
daaaamn
If lava would let players gift and trade he would lose money
I dont think that he will ever enable trade
damn lava and his teasing of W6 lol
about to be coffee time
early morning and lots to do
One month max to he release it
I believe
wanna raise some crops
probably tomorrow lol
Why you think so?
its just speculation lol
hope he releases it on christmas
Hope he releases it today
Dark souls 2 map progression
27th of December
Trust me 
good date
dark souls 2 was good
Normal, desert, ice, space, volcano, korean
The best one, in my heart
its a forest
but the combat was semi garbage ai tracking cheated
it has crops feature from IS
I was playing dark souls 2 coop helping people for sunlight medals till the servers went down for months
Just 1 day before choco chip (so that people can goof around in w6), then after choco chip it's a big jump into account progression
Then irl Christmas and new year, then idleon Christmas for the strong foods
It just seems fitting of lava to release it on that date 
its cool but we know the deal with hex
gotta spend those souls
for spells to be effective
So is this new farming going to ruin this game?
yes most likely
Probably
just like every other skill when it comes out
Is that right?
is it?
odds he names it botany?
not likely
Probably have 3 skills so botany farming tilling no?
probably just farming lol
Farming
I dont want to make my characters slave away again
farming alchemy and something else
Why freely manage 10 characters. Need that chokehold boi!
Without it you game too fast
tbh its normal i think im gonna take everyone off goat when W6 drops and just make them bear so I do some W6
I dont like being choked
Freedom!
Farming will probably be like gaming (bonuses mostly just buffing itself) but the things you actually collect are probably just alchemy mats
ur gonna like it lol
You haven’t been choked properly then 🫡👀
This hurts to ask but... I'm kinda done with w4, everybody is 75+ lab lv, i have doot, everybody is lv40 div. Should i move my shrines to w5?
oh yeah, there will be new vials in w6
ah mines 1 level ahead of yours
Its the freedom after that makes the pleasure that much more intense
my shrines are 17
I dont like where this is going
just leave your guys in world 4 it doesnt matter since shrines are passive in every world
^ if you have the artifact
or at least they should be by this point
Get king doot and you won’t have to worry about goat god
yeah but im poor and definitely not spending money on that doot rolling
Same
They are, i just wanted to lvl everybody up in w5
Goat god < Bear god
honestly i want doot for no other reason than not having to level divinity
@spice meadow
just goat and lab to 100 lab/ divinity 80+
wa?
Not leveling div is not smart
The gif is for you
sorry, i mean not leveling up for rift. I already have all the gods but my DK is at 50 div and i don't feel like getting him to 80
My mind is by Mencia
Prety sure my mind is mine
you're going to want a good div level for the minor links, at least above 100, preferably 134
I understand but for max gains you need in the 100s
Preferably 150 
What’s the path for this week boss
Wait those are apples?
have you tried #1084911530417606656
I thought apples grew on trees?
134 and 540 big p is +16 arctis, 155 and 1409 big p is +17 arctis
Tomatoes
Farming was pretty op in idle skilling. I expect e30 dmg by w7
Peeled waterlemons
Was it?
Then why did they use the Apple emoji?
I did the boss first try got my weekly trophies
Theres a tomato emoji?
I hope he does damage colours rather than e
Although i did feel like i might not have made it
Thats an apple
Nice apple
Also, why is everyone repeating the same strat on the weekly boss blog. It's pinned for a reason
True
Case closed
Though i guess farming was mainly to boost vials which we already have in alchemy
To uh beat the boss
We can get more potions in the W6 apothecary skill
im gonna try to get fmj to atom levels
Definitely not alchemy 
well you're not wrong
Flying creatures with insane accuracy requirements and cheap mechanics that require food to beat. 💪🏾
Why is everyone getting fmj at this point. Do you die somewhere?
Please stop
Cause why not
no but more defense is better survivability for W6

probably so you can afk with all of the -Def prayers in w6
Gotta get 300k defense for the shimmer trial
But I saw people dying at wyrms. Is that still a thing?
if you push w5 with w2 gear, yes
For new players sure
I got all prayers on and haven’t come close to dying, idk
When you first get there maybe
if people run balance of pain and beefy, and havent invested in fmj, sure
Whats beefy
I haven’t equipped that
Since I 1 shot wyrms anyway
just a prayer for a tiny amount of dmg
Im not even to worms yet ... but im sure I will die when I get there lol
wont die to worms but probably will die to the crystals in worms lol
Most people do at first. Dying to wurms is a right of passage
Gotta learn your lesson somehow
I wont die when i reach em
Boy if you don’t get you some food and and put some points in that chalice heal Star* book talent thing
My vman likes to die there when i dont switch out of skilling gear
I died at the first w5 map. Until I Upgraded my amarok to void
Its not a healing issue its just not enough defense and hp for most people
They just get oneshot by crystals
AFKing is fine ... spawning a crystal mob that 2 shots is the issue lol
ill never forget. Enter map, touch a wurm and die
30k hp is enough?
In afk you mainly need damage to kill them and food to survive the offline “hits”
def >> hp
Remove multikill prayer, go back there and die to a crystal
Def is bad
Well yeah surviving afk is easy yes
I liked it better when lava fixed wurm damage output
I did that till I could active and I never died
Never had def issues either
Ye
Sadly
yup yup
Cant wait for W6 lab 
i just started hitting 100+ on my lab people
cant wait for w6 for 50b oak samples to be the norm
The gem generator from idleskilling
I'll get my 50b before W6
I can’t wait for rebirth and so ascending to join the game!
Trust
rebirth so anyone who messed up their class can class change maybe once a week or something
I can't wait for storage cap release
some form of economy skill that has a buff for shops
me buying 100 pickles in 1 day
:)
gonna have the same problem in w6 though with storage

gonna cap on items
I already have 13 pickles!
!! Now we got to put up a paywall. The influx of money from buying class and sub class swap tokens will be gone
Just have to play the game 87 days to complete it
So make it cost 1k gems per character
dont do ittt
Sell your soul
If you have one, lava doenst discriminate
I can only sell half at a time lost a bet with the devil and I don’t own all 100% anymore. 😔
That’s great news to hear
What is going on here? I stand there fishing and sampling. Samples range from 18k to over 100k. Don’t understand how to sample in this zone
Theres 4 fishing tiers you can hit
You want to catch the goldfish equivalent
oh got it. so does afk gear/cards matter here?
everything that you usually need for sampling
ok thanks. do all the stuff and then just sample until i see four different numbers pop up and then i know i got the highest
yessir
For onyx statue, do I only need to give them in 20k lump sum once, and then I can give in any quantity, or do I always need to get 20k at once to get the bonus?
may i ask whats your fishing efficiency?
Whats your fishin sea
Does your sample get lower if you hit a higher tier and then get a lower one?
for each statue to unlock its onyx version you need to drop 20k statues of that type at once. afterwards it doesn't matter how many you give of that type again, they will be onyx at that point. it's suggested you save your kapow and skilling statues until you have 100%+ snake vial for guaranteed 2x statues drop (but still at least do the 20k to make those onyx first). and make sure you do all the monolith quests on all your characters so that you can get a total of 100k kapow and skilling statues.
when sampling you always keep the highest number you sample, even if you sample a lower number right afterwards
gotcha ok, thanks for clearing that up
lava changed that some time ago
Oooo, I was struggling so much with fishing for nothing then? Changing baits and trying not to get lower samples…
fishing samples used to be HELL (and still are, but kind of like a lesser ring of hell or whatever)
Thanks, didn’t know
39B
Which 2 fish do you not sample at all?
you still want to have optimal bait and lines (and other things) to get the highest sample possible. refer to the fishing chart
got it up another 50%, thanks for the help!
i sample all fish except the new ones, atm there isn't a reason to have them sampled
as long as theyre 1050M in prep
i got the vial for the equinox fish maxed
Ye, I will. I used to put best bait and line for bloats for example and get lower jellyfish sample and then resample for higher jellyfish. Didn’t know you don’t get lower anymore
Hmm ok, 9 slots don’t fit all fish for me. Might just skip the new ones
I only have 7 sample slots so im kinda trying to get those
at least get your new ones to 1050m like @elfin idol said, i did do that sorry. i just didn't keep the samples in my slots as there isn't any use for them atm
then again it doesnt matter when you can only print 2 at a time
Fair enough
i can do hourly clicks on some bubbles with the other fish samples however, so that's why i swapped some back
I only have 2 news ones to get to 1050. Might sample them, put to print and delete to get the rest
Just need to get bb to 425 first. I don’t even know how long would that take
👀
if you have him at tremor wurms not long honestly
oops
not even the green stacks 🤭
Took me 10 hours on es to get 425 from 410. So idk. Maybe I need more grind time
I just finished gstacking those a couple of days ago 
but thats just how it is to be hardstuck earlygame
i got the green stacks simply getting their cards to plat/ruby
gotta get them to 1050m in anticipation for their potential vials 
oouf
Yeah but I have to resample first to do that
i can only sample 3 of them at a time while still having the other usefull fish

I haven't resample any time after expeditions yet lol
are gloves better than staff on bubo killroy runs>?
this is why you sample them to 1050m and delete
still need to resample
for vial
thats what im saying, painfull to have to do a resample just for that
Hmmm, sad thing is that getting fish to 1050 won’t get us the last vial too
hence a big advantage to have the "correct" fish sampled
Thats exactly why I haven't sampled them yet. Seasalt fish aren't worth sampling for on their own
I'll wait for a full resample
any advice on how to get 75k more ladles?
il grab the greenstacks when im at Contractors level
Put everyone cooking with skill efficiency chips
Or do w4 colo
You're at my level I'm hardstuck
how many ladles can you get in W4 colo? enough to be meaningful?
lol
I think it’s like 100 per ticket
Some people say they get more
whats your GT at?
25k
damn
I need to get my bubo rolling again, meh
Yeah I know its too high. I spent too much DK time on bubo
Thats weeks of bean farming i can never get back
Never will be 
never say never
eat pray doot
"doubles the effect of doot"
he could also just make new pets and make doot less rare
Lol
sorry for my blasphemy
If we get new pets doot gets more rare
not if he makes a pet where you get all AFK gains at once. So your fighting afk rate also applies to your skills
that won't happen but it's better than doot
"double doot effect" and requiers doot to work 
Just don't get unlucky
Statistically you're more likely to pull him before pity than not
Just pull him 
Are all pet bonuses active for all characters at all times<?
yes
How do I unequip a pet ;( he uggy
Manage pets
I can't seem to unequip
pet where all chips count for all players
only equip some else
you can probably wait for your next pull, get a dupe, equip that and then recycle it
do pet bonuses stack? would it be too op?
they dont stack
theres no reason for me to have like 2 moltis?
that would be insane
Yeah if you want no equipped pet you have to delete the pet currently equipped
stacking crystal custard for 40x dr
i wish
10 slugs 
oki
lol
Still wouldn’t be enough dr
Just like nuggets
You wouldn't even want the DR pet if bonuses stacked
Meta would be doot, sheepie, and 38 slugs
100% cc uptime
One ram too

GOTTA have ram for storage 
Yall need to work on your carry cap smh
Most will just end up having 30+ bored beans anyway
whats ur mat cap at contract?
On vman its like 1.6b or so
idc about the carry cap, that's not why i love ram. i love being able to go into my storage anywhere in the game lol
DK?
where is the chart that will tell me how far into the future i've unlocked bubbles again? lol
tipsntricks
best way to get silver pens?
I can make it more 
crystals
End of w6 iirc at that point
That’s like 6-7 bubbles I think
the better the crystal the better odds?
or just doesn't matter
?
Thats gotta be like end of W7 bubbles at least at 197m
look at their drop tables if you're talking about which worlds' crystals to farm
I stopped at W6 bubbles and my cauldrons are 37m
Just saw, it’s 10
so basically i'm good until w8 comes out then
i stopped at w3 bubbles, gives me something to look forward to for the future
w3 bubbles 
lmao
Does chance to spawn crystal mob from kill work on crytal mobs?
I.E. 75% lab chip and 1/10 chance
If you spawn a crystal mob, would the chance to spawn another actaully be 85%? (75 + 10)?
crystal odds are multiplicative
can crystals spawn other crystals without chip, anyway?
No
i understand that, was wondering if they added together
No
Choco chip is chance for a crystal to respawn on death
Crystal spawn is chance for a crystal to spawn on a normal mob death
They're different stats
mmm ok
Alvin Year
if your crystal odds are 1 in 5000 and you have 20% from some source and 75% from another source, the math is 5000/(1.20*1.75) = 2381, so 1 in 2381 odds. and so on for all sources (from same source add like cards, but each diffrent source is a multiplier)
Unless additive
are there any additive though? apart from when they are from the same source like i already mentioned
Flutterbis worth tying up all my chars for 6 days?
what does tying up mean
Goat/Altar
sure, any new god is worth
players pick a pickle produce from the pickle provider, but that picked pickle was not bob pickle, from the pathetic pickle provider 😦
Ok thanks 🙂
best place to farm world 3 crystlas is?
bloodbone
for sure?
Yes
Check pins
day 3 of killing mr brightsides for cards: fml
breaking out of my cage and ive been doing not fine going back in on my cage
JEALOUSYYY TURNING SAINTS INTO THE SEAAA
Made a new friend today 
bruh haha I also sing mr brightside while killing those
what cards should i use for divinity?
dont think there are just use the basic efficiency ones chaotic efaunt amarok and troll
other than that idk
ty
at 30k / hr, it'll take me 14 days to greenstack each goldric painting with DK
that's pain
i wonder how much it'll improve if i fix my cooldown
you could also wait for w6 and whatever DR boosts that brings, then go back
cuz that'll also bring gstack options if you're only going for 200
ES is best for paintings or are you multitasking statue stacks?
well, i'm doing active dk for statues at the same time so it's not a waste of time
I decided to just wait for w6 lol
i completed quests on es before equinox came out
I kind of want to deliver my 19k battleaxe statues instead of farming 1k more lol
Hocus pocus alchemy bubble was for lv 700 or 900 max i forgot
what traps do u guys use to get the max normal/ shiny critters? royal traps on 40hr?
tought so, i wasnt sure mine just hit 700
Noice
Now to greenstack it
I got 1 sooooo long ago and then never again
At this rate my grandson would be the one greenstacking it
feeel good to 1 tap Kruk with vman ( 1 tap x 4 combo with talent)
is there any list with whats best to farm around 180greenstacks?
eh 180 seems like enough, you might want to look for other things to work on, i doubt theres much easy stuff left at that number
i want to finish 200 quest
ah ok, ive seen people farm quest items, not sure how efficent that is though, or if you havnt finished the quests already
wow. 8th day printer goes Brrr only trigger onjce... sad
starting to think there's something wrong going on
99k/100k ladles!!!!
0.3^8 = 0.0065% chance. you def have it maxed?
or by trigger once you mean you got one free reload?
That's the outlier
is filthy damage additive to anything?
just really unlucky.
Lucky to get more than 1 a day
like 76% chance refresh like bruh
Can you sample laddles?
nice try thou
oh god, is lava bringing in farming as a skill in W6??
farming your credit card
back to childhood
likley some varient of the apothocary/farming skills in idle skilling if youve played that
idleon is basically idle skilling v2
I'm curious to see what he does when he runs out of skills to adapt
yeah, i instantly thought that too cause of the tomatoes
ascend 😂
^ lmao
Farming 100% doesn’t sound fun at all lol
Let’s hope we don’t have to invite friends to expand our farm
I just want farming simulator ported into idleon. Complete with tractors and 3-D modeling
ew too much now
Get on the tractor and make stew out of wyrms
Sorry, best we can do is a direct port of that facebook game, farmville.
your kph are low because you're only killing a plane of gmush. imagine killing a prism of gmush
idleon VR is going to be the next project after w8
DONE with KRUK
are there people with all achievements?
pretty sure "I LOVE These Pets" is impossible, so no
best setup for 120 w3 td?
Farming guild when
Sdv but 160 houses on the guild plantation
i can't wait for the different type of plants and their bonuses
and to answer all the questions about w6 and those that ask "how can i increase my damage? i only kill 150 mobs/hour"
Any brave souls interested in helping me put together an alchemy progression guide
Feels like an enormous task, but one I think that would be very beneficial for early to mid game players
God I hope I can only kill 150 mobs/hr in w6
^
so fixing my DK's cooldown and bumping his drop rate by 2.00 produced 34500 paintings/hr instead of 30000.. only 12 days per painting instead of 14 :/
If Buddha is like that it means we actually have to progress our accounts
True
Imagine unlocking portals again like you're in w1
W1 was minutes, mayyyybe 2-3 hours per
Afking for like 5 days with 1k dmg at sticks cause you think the bottom portal is important when you haven't even unlocked TD yet
Are there any others I should be pushing to 90 before CMB life?
W2 personally was where I felt had a smooth unlock. Longer than W1 without being too long
What level divinity do I need to get the max minor link bonus?
Carpenter deserves some more love before CMB
Youd go 95%?
There is no max. However for giggles if you aim for 100%, it needs lv130 divinity and 1.45x from Big P bubble
Definitely, yes.
How do y’all gain class levels on blood berserker? Crystal/Moonmoon/AFK?
Im considering not doin the W5 ones except big P too
I afked to 450. Then a lot of pearls and active
Pearls?
Thanks.
probably white pearls, can get them from killroy.
Lava just showed me rope without consent 
what gloves is he wearing there
Looks like kruk gloves
Does big P affect all gods if you have doot?
Someone, you hear that @paper sail 😦
green checks from Scoli are holy
lol
lava confirmed W6 tomorrow yet or what
to me it looks like a curtain pull instead of a rope
plz no W6 yet, i’ve got so much work to still do W1-5
too bad its coming lol
Let's gooo Tuesday 
W6 release later today confirmed
whats the max plate level?
60 atm
60
W6 is today get ready
it aligns with korean holiday on the 11th soooo speculation was correct or what?
questions W6 when
Who's gonna tell them that w6 dropped yesterday?
We got rope
So looks like farming is gonna be one of our new skills?
#💖future-content-blog message not even doot
How to get this
Dungeon flurbo shop
World 6 update just dropped on steam hot damn
What's the best for trapping xp? Simply blobfish? I'm wondering since the xp is base xp/critter, so getting more critters might end up as more xp...(?)
I've never heard anyone say it progressed shinies. You positive?
At a guess - it’s the same as an omni proc
That breedability achievement is like a decade of constant progression or something, so an 8x boost doesn’t make it any less unachievable
Exp is from base critters only, which is different than say increased critters from efficiency. Those increased critters give no extra exp. The best trapping exp is by placing Blobfish Nature Traps (8hr or 20hr if full lazy) on your Vman with as many stacked exp bonueses as you can muster. Acorn Hat, doubled w4 or Maestro trophy, doubled skill exp and trapping star sign, Maestro Infusion talent activates, Balance of Proficiency prayer, all that.
Ain’t no one running BM active for a year in real time for 1 achievement
Thanks for the detailed answer!
Hrmmmm, grind time levels vs getting more active SB kills..... which to choose
How high is each currently?
10.2k GT, SB is like... 55k?
Why do you lie
Be a SB slave like me rn 
I'd get 100k plunders next from there
I hate plunders 
I'm dreading leveling my BM/2BB's so trying to do something else after my ES hits 500
100k Plunderous it be
yeah, I'm doing the same 😛
w6 release should close that gap if you can wait it out
W6 should be coming around Thanksgiving I think
anyone taking bets on w6 release
i believe you
Would not do 100k ladles unless you're done cooking
Dang, musta missed it. How much rng is there?
You should
Hoo boy if you thought snail mail was bad
Rng to even get the update
I don't have snail yet lol. Been working on it though.
Dang you're in for an awakening
Value gained is double damage, kind of boring compared to meal bonuses
For pure plunderous kills are OJ the better map?
Oj better for most things because flat
Saving to 100k gets you both. Spending 10k 10x only gets meal progress.
Levelling meals by closest next level gets you the most bang for your buck
Using all at once is a waste
yeah, I was doing socks when I was leveling him to 500 because XP, but now that SB is 500, I don't care anymore lol, just want plunder kills
Use all 100k on just one meal
use 100k on meal 1
Turkeys strong
Based and correct
100k on turkeys 
You feel this one even further in. That's why I argue going per level rather than all-in.
do 100k ladles with a different meal on each table
you lemons
10 levels is better than 100k on 1 meal
whats lemons give
its not a meal, im calling u lemons lol
you were leaking w6 meals and now covering up
Bet it all on .... yellow?
Can confirm lemon slices in w6
Just don't eat the yellow snow.
superchowing w6 getting me excited
70 superchows is 789x, 83 is 2,726x
gonna be cooking up a storm
Gonna cook so much turkey
Wait until super elite class uberchow
Yeah we better get new max levels in W6
Buying stock in lemons
Pls no I'm still not done booking
I meant meal levels
O
But yeah talent levels too
Awkward
Y'all thinking of the wrong things
that's huge
The idea that we don't want new talent levels before we max the current ones is silly
I assume nothing until they announce that it's in closed testing
I know it is hut I just want a sense of achievement
Think of the achievement you can get when we get new max levels and all your samples go up
End gamers going from T samples to Q samples
I just can't wait for new vials so I can get more critters from Honker vial
This man living in world 8 with T samples 
I've seen the future
I'm not resampling until W6 😛
what were max samples at beginning of w5? Only like a 100m or so yeah?
!help
#bot-commands
I think it was around there yeah. I was still a noob back then though so mine were maybe like 1m lol
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
This is all I got from around then
how long it take ya'll to get 12m gmush kills for vman
I did test shiny progress on active BM
I had some shinies at 0.0 days
So it was an easy test
Not having a respawn makes it not too strong
ive farmed over 120 million suggmas and i have about 10x drop rate but i still havent unlocked the molten gloves. am i just unlucky or am i glitched\
Doesn’t even sound unlucky
Deathnote counts multikill and kpk
Drops do not
makes sense thank you thought i was going mad
The best way to gauge is to look how many urns you have
Should get about 1000 royal urns
The 1/50K drops
Took me almost 4K tho 
ugh, lvl 121 gorefest is so damn difficult. Still can't beat it with poison tower lvl 33.
i'm so close though. died at 119.
bro
check this
guide for 121 every map
not w5
i keep getting 120 and failing
Those are the old guides (Pre Equinox)
New Guides are in here https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084925174517866496
Nothing wrong with the old ones tho. They still work
Unfortunately, those guides aren't any help. They require level 50 towers, which I don't have yet
They just show the most optimal placement of towers :)
They are still working, they just won't get you to wave 200
im 60+ towers and use his same setup and still cant beat 121 w5 
oh.. he has 314% atom 👀
I went to 130 with 204% (actually less, maybe 190%) and 57ish poison. You are doing something wrong then
oh 
Then I snacked another W5 Build from someone in Endgame Chat 
Only 1 more
You should be able to drop at least the left most kraken for another poison though if you only care for 130
That setup was with 150+ in mind which has a lot more mobs
what level poison u have
You know what is wild? Broadcasting standards on TV in the 80s
82 but people with towers in the 60's have said they copied me and got 170 cleared
Just watched an episode of star trek and it straight up had a full body shot of a newborn baby with the only thing blocking the nether regions being the umbilical cord...
Also I don't spam waves in W5. I wait a few seconds between waves to see what mobs come out
If its grey I hit next wave if its orange/purple i just wait
ill try tomorrow when i have time ty 😄
"from:pancakex. in: endgame-talk guide" is what I used to find guides for endgame that translates wel going down. Got 150-170 in TD1-3 with Pancake's guides (just ignored the "dps mode" conversion since I never got there)
How does superchow work? I've got 11 on 1 BB but only 9 on another BB and it seems to take the lowest value in the calculation. Do I have to superchow on both chars for it to count?
Never used it either and I'm 1200 con
is ancient form as rare as basic one to find?
rarer
rarer the higher tier
As in cons level? 300 doesn't even scratch the surface
wait till u see the eldritch tiers 
If you're on steam it takes the chows on your 2nd BB. Mobile uses the 1st
There's nothing to "optimize" reallly for cogs nowadays outside of the p2w cog shapes
Cog click for a while, wait for player exp % cogs, replace llower % ones with higher % ones
Thanks. I might just convert the 2nd one to a DK to save the hassle
just used 10k keys on 1 char for kattle cape
didnt get it
yeah but my cogs suck and i never understood it enough to care so i never paid it much attention
Any cog that doesn't have player exp % is useless outside of directionals, wherein a 0% player exp but bonus player exp % roll is far better than the other way around
What dr
btw thx for the advice guys, am dumb to con so 😛
12.25x its on my bubo and i was too lazy to switch drop rate gear from wizard 😄
oof, that's llow
Dunno saw that one relic is library max lvl related and burned 40+ bottles from quests over last 3 days to get basic one, here i was naive thinking lvl 400 will be enough to max talent everything (combat + skilling) but with that relic i think i'll have to grind more lvls for that...
u need to atom the talent bubbles if u want to max every talent
level 600 bubble is needed ish for my chars to max every talent
this one + the bubble that gives this 2x effect 😄
u can use atoms past 100m
that option in top-right
but yes they are capped at 1b
well, i am at part where i am still stuck at beginning of atom farming
around 1M at basic log sample (well it prints more than that, you know 2x, DK all that stuff)
yh ur far from maxing ur talent points my friend 😄
focus on increasing ur samples first
well, i would kinda max Tab 1-3, but... if i didn't find talent relic xD
well, with that relic i will finally get 200 lvl bubo cooldown reset
I need to know... does the skull you see in gaming just before the cards turn have any indication of where they are or is it just to mess with you?
I heard 200lvl+ talent bubo is needed for 15 min cranium cooking
its always totally random i always click in same spot everytime
gotcha 😛
You need tenteyecle at lvl 200 to get a 3s cooldown reduction
wait, it upgrades from 2 s to 3 sec?
Plant got thanos snapped
ya
that's broken
That's why gettin it over 200 is important
If w6 comes with some more big boy max talent level buffs we may be able to get is to 4s
which level would be necessary for 4s?
300 probably
300? Or is it something less smooth?
400
400
400 which nets you 80% chance to proc and 4 seconds reduction
4s is lvl 400
one second every 200 levels
and here i was wondering how people even possibly got 100000s or was it 10000s dream bubble... with 3 sec I can see it happening
100k seconds is pretty low, al things considered
the key part about 3secs is that your respawn basically instantly resets with enough mobs on the map
which means your CC time shoots up massively
yeah, with 2 it is a gamble
I'm not remotely at endgame tier and I easily get around 330k-350k per CC
Plus all the buffs to cc length
350k is mobile end game, 450k is steam end game Ave per cc
22,7k for me on medusa looking map
Imagine not having 700k ccs
Medusa?
400 tent is crazzzy
Imagine having 700k ccs
sorry my brain farted, jellyfish looking mob map
Flombs gotcha
hard to tell endgame only attainable if higher than contract i think he his the endgame gatekeeper
Will get better once you can do it on citringes and then eventually wurms
I don't know how my brain thought medusa is replacement for jellyfish word
Snakes are basicallly tenticles innit
It’s all relative anyway
Imagine not having 1m ccs
i honestly have no idea where i'm at my account is all over the place.
How much for citringes thought? is 200lvl gas enough to have as recommended 420m dmg from that picture tip and be fine? i feel like if you don't kill in 1 tick it is not enough
ikr then no real line between late game and end game that i knnow off
I should probably cog cllick my minimum to at lelast 100% at some point, get my build speed to that fun 1b number
Prob when you stop asking "am I endgame yet?" Is the main difference
Divine scarf+ divine trophy = endgame at this point if only early endgame
ahaha yea could be that
completed 100% equinox would be a good thing too
i mean 500 accross account and 200 gstack is pretty endgame
Only 199 gstacks
nice
did you do statue ?
Just 1
My thing is I don't active or minmax much so I won't be a peak end gamer
did you gstack some salt too ?
"what is endgame" moves as long as endgame people are in discord and playing, basically guaranteeing we'll never be endgame
I look forward to seeing people in last map of w6 18 minutes into the patch
Red orange and blue. And uh quest items minus stopwatches, ketchup, mustard, and dog bones
Blue is easy to gstack
And red is easy with doot
yea
Orange I had to pause blue for a bit
mining and chopping statues probably the easiest statues to stack if you haven't done 1 of those?
dogbone 💀 might try taht already got mustard ketchup and some w2 stuff
Gstack subs, insta followers, ratings and cloudsound?
For me endgame starts to be felt when you finish pet battles,lit all available items in lab, and diamond cooking bubble snowballing lets you cook at least 30 diamond dishes. Account feels complete enough when W1-W4 skills are strongly developed, even if W5 ones still lack. Cause all that is left is to snowball alchemy
Only have 1 mil mining statues to go
Oh big 200 in range then, easy
But might finish lustre bars first depends how much more I want to do colo2
Diamond chef doesn't even scratch the surface of cooking speed anymore, honestly it's midgame at best
its a nice place to start 😛 but could be your endgame goal
Not when vman lets you cascade to this scale
tho its a long way to go till the end of content
How come I only got 2mil xp for 8 hours at equinox fish when my afk says 55m/hr or so?
Endgame is when 150 doable skills on vman
equinox only counts 2 minutes of afk
Read the sign
or 5 or something
1 minute
ahh rip lol
what he said. but either way still no afk like the sign says
Is endgame when you get 15 printer procs from vman, because I just got that ezpz
Endgame when you only ever get 1 a day max
I mean, at least for me for idle games, endgame is when all mechanics in game are kinda uncovered and unlocked, and all that is left is to grind. Depends on defenition of endgame you have in mind though. If flat numbers of dmg or something else feels like endgame mark, then i am still lategame noob
not even 1b hahaha
endgame is getting Doot lets face it
Doot is a myth
don't care, i wanna chest in all maps pet
Really? Sweet
Ill trade you a shiny charizard for one Ceph
If i get all map chest pet, then i'll care about doot
1b max dmg?
The day that pet trading exists that spare fucks going for a slime, don't you worry
my mages are 200-300M guys more or less
That's like early game though
I gave up at like $200 and not even getting every other pet lol
not max hit possible, but stat shown
Yes i know
that's a cap for me, early game is unlocking new worlds