lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[vagrant mountain]

it's invisible, you can only kill it afk

[proud pumice]

oh

do you have to do it in 2 min claims?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[sick sentinel]

u can do 1 min claims

[proud pumice]

no way i'm ever doing that lol

[vagrant mountain]

the 1 min claims are technically 2 mins

[prisma drift]

Hey monke what’s your roots TD wave?

[sick sentinel]

true

[vagrant mountain]

oh jeez

[vagrant mountain]

think i can get higher?

[prisma drift]

Oh you’re not at that dream yet

[vagrant mountain]

i am at that dream actually, i just hate TD

[prisma drift]

Lazy

[vagrant mountain]

addicted to the bored ones

[proud pumice]

i have higher clash of cans than you 💀

[stoic crow]

Just speedrun 121 then forfeit

[sick sentinel]

dont u gotta get to 130

[prisma drift]

Nah I’m already here

I’m at 150 push rn

[vagrant mountain]

its 121

[prisma drift]

Hoping for 160 since I’m not pancake

[sick sentinel]

ye but i think its the same principle as highscore on td, so if you dont finish the waved before the others spawn it doesnt count it

[vagrant mountain]

whats your poison/atom dmg?

[prisma drift]

Good question

67 266

[signal osprey]

If you can do 150 you can likely do 170

At the very least 160. Its less mobs and less hp than 150

[stoic verge]

How many is max?

[fading plover]

Salty people

[vagrant mountain]

technically 72 but boops is currently impossible so realistically 71

[prisma drift]

Kill the w6 plant

[vagrant mountain]

would be an an interesting skill concept: anti-farming

[prisma drift]

That’s just killing beans

[proud pumice]

you said w6 was bean world after all

[signal osprey]

Every world is bean world

[vagrant mountain]

the bored ones were bred to die

lava is a cruel god

[signal osprey]

The depends on perspective

My DK thinks he's quite benevolent

[vagrant mountain]

true what's worse, being bred to die or not being given a chance at all?

[stoic verge]

Where do i find the secret sand giant one?

[signal osprey]

Doot

[fathom lagoon]

Being bred to die

[stoic verge]

The invisible ones top left?

[vagrant mountain]

isnt it still 71 without boops though

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[vagrant mountain]

technically we are all bred to die if you think about it

[fathom lagoon]

[signal osprey]

Just revive in town 🤷‍♂️

[pearl cedar]

Oh am I the one that's wrong lol

[vagrant mountain]

unless there's one missing from IT, but I guess I'm still wrong for not doing any of em

[proud pumice]

i never died so i think i'm immortal

[prisma drift]

I cleared 150

[signal osprey]

Now do 160

[prisma drift]

Yessir

[clear quartz]

do the portraits normally take a buttload of time to greenstack or do i just suck

[pearl cedar]

Nah you're right just checked my bb Have 70 superchowd

[pearl cedar]

Yes

[prisma drift]

I have 69 meows

I don’t know if I want more

[signal osprey]

You don't

[pearl cedar]

71 or bust

Lvl 30 fluoride too expensive anyways

[vagrant mountain]

ill probably do the rest of em during w7 waiting room

[signal osprey]

Yeah but realistically we aren't getting much more cooking progress before W6 anyway even with 71

[prisma drift]

W7

[signal osprey]

And if we gotta wait until W6 I'll just do my 71 chows after I get the inevitable W6 power creep

[vagrant mountain]

cant wait for the lvl 100 plate grind

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats another thing we gotta wait and find out

If lava doesn't add new plate levels then equinox chow is useless

Maxing meals to 60 should be easy in W6

[vagrant mountain]

food lust is decent too

gotten me a handful of extra levels already

[pearl cedar]

Yeah pretty nice ngl. If only everything else except lab wasnt better

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i think i put too many points in it

[signal osprey]

[pearl cedar]

Problem is you get enough ladles that you can level up a meal every other day or so. So any more than 2 levels at the moment kinda meh

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, i think i underestimated how long it would take to max them all

[pearl cedar]

If i weren't worried about my max meme damage I would put another level in it

[signal osprey]

I'm currently not leveling anything anymore until I unlock symbols

[vagrant mountain]

so youre just sitting on a full bar?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[vagrant mountain]

youre different

[pearl cedar]

Seems kinda wasteful

I should unlock symbols in like 1.5 days

[signal osprey]

I mean kinda but not really

The only things left I could put points in are food lust, lab, damage, or liquid none if which will give me any value

[pearl cedar]

Fair

[signal osprey]

Whereas getting symbols asap let's me sample faster which I kinda need to do

Realistically I should have sampled awhile ago if I was trying to play in an efficient way. I'm just egoing for a meme sample at this point

[pearl cedar]

Longer you hold off your sample the longer it will take for you to get doot

[signal osprey]

Even more reason to sit on a full equinox bar

I won't sample until symbols is maxed so saving equinox means faster doot

[pearl cedar]

True nuff

[undone steeple]

what do I need to do in order to get trapping exp on maestro?

with the trapping drone

[pearl cedar]

You just do

[undone steeple]

do what

he is ranked 7th

[pearl cedar]

Then you need to place 8 hour natures with vman

[proud pumice]

you need to put him in nature traps and use all your exp multipliers on him before setting the trap

[hard copper]

does the feasty statue effect golden food bonuses? Trying to get more sailing afk rewards

[pearl cedar]

Gold food stamp

[hard copper]

thats a bummer

[rough wasp]

Imagine it did

[undone steeple]

do you get the exp when you collect or when you setup

[pearl cedar]

Why would get exp when you set them up. That would be dope though

[sleek ermine]

whats the other idleonefficiency equivelenbt

[stuck pasture]

https://idleontoolbox.com/

[zinc torrent]

What merit shop items should I focus on buying?

[fathom lagoon]

You can use !merit# for a guide on each world’s merit shop. Go to #bot-commands for that

[stuck pasture]

#bot-commands message there go lol

[vagrant mountain]

[fathom lagoon]

Monke x balloon monkey

[patent hatch]

Hope world 6 brings back mini games

[eternal dove]

w5 had minigames

well minigame*

[obtuse rover]

Minigame achievement high-scores are the bane of my existence in Idleon.

[eternal dove]

absolutely same

[patent hatch]

I like them lol

[deft pelican]

theres a minigame in w5?

[eternal dove]

poing

[deft pelican]

fair

[obtuse rover]

Idleon isn't really optimized to handle much gameplay lol.

Like Poing gets really laggy.
TD gets really laggy and crashes regularly.
Breeding pet fighting gets quite laggy (was much better after the automation and high-performance mode, but those came after months)

Reflex-based gameplay might be unwise for Idleon minigame design in the future, in my opinion.

[deft pelican]

poing is the weird one, but TD/breeding get laggy because you have an absurd amount of things happening at once

[pure ember]

Trapping mini game can also get laggy

[stoic crow]

Unless we get a huge optimization patch, minigames suck all around

[patent hatch]

I hate that one hahah

[pure ember]

But it might actually make it easier

[obtuse rover]

That's still not an excuse for implementing something that runs so poorly it breaks more than 50% of the time.
It's poor design if you can't implement it in a way that works.

I don't blame Lava for not realizing this would become a problem, but I hope he works on improving it at some point.

[pure ember]

If critters won't escape your hand

[fathom lagoon]

Forgot that even exists. Are there permabuffs available from that? Don’t even remember what it does lol

[polar light]

Trapping buff is permanent based on high score

[pure ember]

^

[old crane]

ss I saw yesterday reminded me I've only done trapping game once and I could really use the bonuses lol

[pure ember]

250 is the last reasonable bonus iirc but I don't remember

[fathom lagoon]

Damn I should do that too

[olive nacelle]

yo question the use 100k laddles is that exact or like just more then?

[vagrant mountain]

i dont think anyone has tried more than 100k on the dot, let us know your results

[olive nacelle]

i mean its gonna take me some time i just wanted to know either way its not a waste ill try the more then though first

[patent hatch]

Nah you’re fine mate

[vivid garnet]

Alright fess up, who’s putting the salt into the future content plant 😤

[slender sandal]

i did both

[weak vector]

Oh shit that says-1

I was really confused and was like “why is salt adding water to the plant”

Anyway i removed mine now

[signal osprey]

Salt gang

[fading plover]

Some salty mfers playing this game ya know

[brisk anvil]

How long roughly has it taken people to get the 100k ladles?

[burnt sail]

It totally depends on your ladle rate. Around 3 weeks for me.

[calm gust]

What's the max treasure storage

[burnt sail]

Technically 50. 30 chest cap, and then your 20 boats will bring back 1 more chest on their final trip.

[calm gust]

K thx

Also any good idleon YouTubers for tips

[brisk anvil]

What's your rate?

[worn sonnet]

My dumb ass got the loot pile sigil thinking it was +chests not +treasure

[placid tusk]

What are the main sources of speed increases, at 330% rn and idk how to increase it further

[obtuse rover]

Get all the speed potions, then get high feasty statue level, feel free to add any other food% bonuses (trophy or starsign or cardset/cards), then make sure you've got onyx statues and the vman statue-related talent.

[placid tusk]

What’s the best place to farm feast statues?

[obtuse rover]

Beans is probably the go-to unless you have a good reason to be elsewhere.

[placid tusk]

Ty

[dapper prism]

I'm a little scrolled up atm, mine is 6 atm, just tossed my first point into scimmys though
https://i.imgur.com/0aSebik.png

[vagrant mountain]

yeah mine is pretty much the same as yours

[dapper prism]

One thing i noticed is that the whole meal stuff fks over your IT

[vagrant mountain]

you just need to cloudsave after you upgrade your first meal

[burnt sail]

Just do some math to figure out yours. 100,000 / 21 days = 4,761 ladles/day. Accounts for the ~50% chance to double your ladles from PO box.

[dapper prism]

Did that, cloudsave, refresh it, still kept messing up

[vagrant mountain]

are you forgetting to turn on overflowing ladles?

[dapper prism]

Nope

[vagrant mountain]

weird, it works fine for me

i've been doing it every day as well

or at least when i remember to do the random

[ancient vine]

Thanks to that i jumped from 10B to 100B kek

Now getting more damage with the lava skull thing

Specially for my Vman 🥹

[untold lintel]

these tasks are all gating me so hard 😦

[obtuse rover]

4/5 are probably reasonable to attain before too long

[gray pagoda]

#💖future-content-blog message
Looks like we are getting farming as a skill, or at least a feature. Seems to include some sort of RNG potentially where you roll to get either water, to grow your plant faster, or salt, to slow it down. Or it could work as x amount of water = grow, and if it's negative, it dies or goes down one tier, which is done via salt.

[obtuse rover]

For Snakehotep, use a character that has high mining and fishing to make sure you can get through those puzzles.
Just remember to prioritize breaking the stone in every level and you should be able to reach the last snake.
Keep a tab of the wiki open to the list of puzzles if you're unfamiliar with them so you know how to win them.

It'll take a long time to kill the final boss, but you can just click on him and wait a while.

[placid tusk]

Use salt to grow plants downwards into hell

Dark alchemy from is

[obtuse rover]

Use active ES and Vman sampling during speedruns to get mob materials into greenstack range very quickly.

Use 3D printer to get the easier skilling materials greenstacked

Buy stuff from the npc stores every day. Especially food in W4 and W5, those can be greenstacked in a couple days. Potions and oil in W4/5 can be gstacked in ~a month, but it's an easy thing to just do whenever you remember and it'll add up.

[gray pagoda]

Might work like snail though, where it has a checkpoint every 5 levels

But that's just a theory

[obtuse rover]

Please no.
My heart can't take more RNG-related plant growing.

[gray pagoda]

Which is exactly why it will happen lol. I think Lava is trying to time-gate people, so they don't progress too fast, but people still do somehow.

[obtuse rover]

I'm fine with farming, but I'm really hoping rng is slightly less important in W6, because it was the defining feature of skills in W5 and it was super not-my-thing.

[dapper prism]

yup

rather time gate farming like runescape skill kinda thing

than just "oh rng again"

[gray pagoda]

Same... still no hummingbird

Or Chem plant

[dapper prism]

have the rng aspect if at all be the potion creation

[obtuse rover]

You can't time-gate people effectively by offering them a 1 in a million chance to skip the time-gate ahead of everyone else and everyone just needs to watch the lucky people for a few months.

[gray pagoda]

That seems to be how he views it though 🤷‍♂️

[obtuse rover]

I know, you're not wrong.

I just hope for something better next time around.

[gray pagoda]

I'd honestly prefer the first version I mentioned, where water speeds up grow time, and salt slows it down, with negative just not being a thing, simply by setting the minimum points you can actually reach to 0

[summer grail]

Should I start making atoms? I’m early mid w5ish

[gray pagoda]

Obviously this is all just speculation, and I'm not all that great with theories (not a single theory I've ever made has been correct)

[dapper prism]

only if your samples are in the easy few 10's of mils.
Also set atom collider to 1050m and turn it off, it autoconverts stuff over it

[obtuse rover]

At least make the RNG have lesser variance.

Like RNG where some people get a cool bonus a couple days faster than someone else is much more palatable than making a 1-1000x spread for nuggets that you have a 1 in 100,000 chance of getting near the top end, and people who get a big roll early get a snowballing bonus that they may hold onto forever while unlucky people may never reach the sorts of bonuses some people had a few days in.

The equinox bonus was a great change for nuggets and gaming, even though gaming still needs some quality of life to avoid people getting repetitive strain injuries.

Like vial RNG at the start of a new world.

Usually a strong bonus but you might not unlock them day 1. That's fine, you'll almost definitely get them within a few days. Super reasonable.

[summer grail]

Okay I can do maybe 2m oak logs right now so probably not quite there. Is it not worth doing a few atoms just to start and get a few things?

[dapper prism]

at least gamning has been rubberbanded very strongly.
Now sailing/div especially div needs something

Imagine w6 is out, you hit w5. "oh just afk div for a few weeks"

compared to lab that you can kinda-skip due to div goat, div cant be skipped really, too strong

[dapper prism]

10m mats= 1 atom. forgot the intiialy costs, first unlock is useless, 2nd is decent if u plan on resampling but think it was like 60-70ish or maybe even 180ish atoms? no clue anymore

[obtuse rover]

Maybe there'll be some new town skill that lets you do all 3 at the same time LOL

[dapper prism]

but more important, if you are at 2m oak in mid w5. you should try and really focus youre alch more

[dapper prism]

Farming -> Potions, a potion that makes divinity a permanent passive unlock, but if you are on divinity itself it is X times faster xD

[knotty urchin]

wait so I got my atom collider on 25 mil now and im just doing loads of normal wood to get atoms, got like 1k+ already by doing that, should I put the converter higher?

[dapper prism]

Always keep atom collider set to 1050m, then turn it off. That's the kinda meta.

[obtuse rover]

Ideally just keep the collider turned off and set to 1050m threshold.

[knotty urchin]

ahh okay

[obtuse rover]

It will still digest items above 1050m even when turned off

[dapper prism]

That way you will also always maintain your greenstack when leveling bubbles, and have that extra 1b for 1b bubbles later on.

[knotty urchin]

got it

[obtuse rover]

And it'll make sure it doesn't accidentally eat items you want to stack up for the purposes of alchemy vials (and one day for hourly alchemy clicks, if that's your style)

[dapper prism]

You turn it off incase you ever accidentally toggle the 1050m to like 10m you dont want to lose all your stacks xD

[knotty urchin]

ahh yeah makes sense, thanks guys

[dapper prism]

(the 1b not only bubbles but also stamps later on)

[knotty urchin]

so if its off and hits 1050 it still makes an atom after?

great

[finite lake]

Does it matter which class you use to apply upgrade stones to traps? Like is it best to boost the skill stat or main stat?

[dapper prism]

main stat for every alt.

You place critter traps (Royal) with bm
You place XP traps (Nature) with vman (with transfusion talent on)

Vman should ALWAYS have all XP traps btw.

[finite lake]

Sick, thank you! Is that the same for other tools as well? Always main stat

[dapper prism]

Yup, the main stat helps that alt in every way for it's actual main skill, including combat and stuff like that.

Like, you don't want STR on a pickaxe for a Mage, as that str won't really help you in any way. You'd want WIS as you sample wood on a mage, and Wis helps it's dmg etc.

[finite lake]

That makes sense, thank you

[worn sonnet]

Well yeah but people were able to get through sailing very fast because of the many different exploits you could do

Which in turn boosted gaming by a large amount as well

[obtuse rover]

It was barely an exploit at the time when Lava left it in and didn't ask people not to mention it for like 1.5-2months into the world.
Hopefully Lava will either do a bit more alpha-testing of content before release this time, or move more swiftly to remedy issues if they arise on release.

[worn sonnet]

I was specifically thinking of the gold one

[obtuse rover]

Oh yeah, that was rough

I was thinking of the esc-key to save your sailing gains so you could actually sleep without losing all your progress in that time.

[worn sonnet]

I know multiple people who did it that never got rolled back (Not me, I didn't do it)

[dapper prism]

Just based on Equinox release and written issues alone, either theres no testing done, testers arnt the best or the stuff isnt fixed thats mentioned 🤷

[obtuse rover]

Man, feels good to know I was online when the gold thing happened and chose not to abuse.

[dapper prism]

Dont mention details, Rule 4.

[obtuse rover]

I think many of the players I knew who were alpha testers were banned from the discord over the years (especially on doot release)

There was definitely complaints that they were providing feedback that wasn't being listened to, I think, though.

It's really tough for Lava, running everything as a 1 man show, but at some point you can still be critical of a bug-addled product.

[obtuse rover]

I don't think the spirit of rule 4 really applies to discussing an exploit that happened historically that was patched out.

It seems pretty clearly to be against discussing current exploits or how to exploit, I think.

[dapper prism]

Ive seen warnings after the patch happened

[obtuse rover]

Interesting

[dapper prism]

Indeed

[dapper prism]

thing is, some of these issues with equinox were simple wording, 5min fix kinda thing

[worn sonnet]

Yeah it's just best not to talk about it. Stay safe out there

[dapper prism]

100 arena, 115 or 130? 100b gmush but i got it at 97b. Not much of a bug besides wrong wording

[obtuse rover]

Either way, I would love to see the next world get released without any major exploits that let a few goofballs get orders of magnitude ahead of others.

I think we might have had at least 1 event like that in W3, 4, and 5 releases though, so odds might not be great. I'm hoping though. Lava is surely honing his skills over time.

[proud pumice]

cogtimizer just said for me to bench my premium yin cog 💀

-375 gems i guess

[dapper prism]

Rofl

[worn sonnet]

w4 had the cooking incident, w5 had the redacted gold event, w3 had something that I can't remember

[obtuse rover]

You could proc that one with wayyyyy less than 100b, yeah.

[worn sonnet]

I remember there being something

[obtuse rover]

There was a construction thing early on that let a few people hit the sort of Con levels we see endgame currently back in W3, if I remember correctly.

[worn sonnet]

Oh yeah that was it

[vapid cove]

yeeee so basically you have been lucky for the most part in op levels because of that lol

[worn sonnet]

Descent into the mind palace

[vapid cove]

other than the sailing gold reset i dont know of any other one where lava rolled back

[sick sentinel]

I thought i heard alch getting rolled back for something around when i started

[obtuse rover]

Yeah he doesn't have any easy ways to actually identify people who exploited, nor easy ways to roll them back, so people aren't usually punished.

[lapis mesa]

wasnt it something about bubo working on sigils temporarily?

[sick sentinel]

Maybe

[obtuse rover]

Back in the day people would get shadowbanned if their stats were too high, but then legitimate players started hitting those values at endgame

[worn sonnet]

You know what's funny? I found & reported a killroy bug that would've made the 2k dream trivial

[dapper prism]

Same think with IS and crossover event.

[undone steeple]

what is the best trap for quantity?

[dapper prism]

Royal

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[vapid cove]

i need to start finishing up final traps for myself i just dont have enough green salts

[undone steeple]

tyty

[vapid cove]

I wasnt even in world 5 when that happened so its whatever to me but the 1 month roll back hurts

[obtuse rover]

Sorry, are you saying you got rolled back during the gold thing?

[vapid cove]

nope

[obtuse rover]

Oh gotcha

[dapper prism]

I was just happy for the free gems 😄

[vapid cove]

its just for those who did

yeah same i got free gems for not exploiting it

if you didnt exploit sailing you got free gems

[proud pumice]

the archer talent for melting bars works active too, right? the reason why people do 2 min claims is so that they can claim on 3 archers at once

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, but literally anyone who got rolled back was 1000% exploiting, so they can't complain too much about it.

A lot of people who exploited got away with it because Lava only chose a cutoff that was extremely, extremely high to identify who was in the wrong

[proud pumice]

nope, only people in w5 got gems

[vapid cove]

i wasnt in W5 but i got them

[proud pumice]

source: i was w4

[obtuse rover]

Active it doesn't count multikill. AFK it does, so it's wayyyy faster while afk.

[proud pumice]

huh

[dapper prism]

It works, but it isnt worth it really.
People don't really do 2min claims but rather use 1-2h candy always on SB.
You call it 2min claims because your forge caps within 2 minutes.

[proud pumice]

i didn't get it

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/XI5LLps.png

That's with a 1h candy for me

[rough wasp]

Multikill gives more bars cause it counts more kills

but active counts only regular kill count

so 1 at a time

[dapper prism]

If i was gone for 1h, 100h or 10000 years. I would still only get that many e.g. Copper/Iron etc.

[rough wasp]

aka it sucks

[dapper prism]

Oh so same as quests.

[proud pumice]

if you active for like 8h, would you get more?

[dapper prism]

No, it's based on your forge capacity

[proud pumice]

or do you need to manually collect them for the forge to empty

[dapper prism]

You cant make more bars than your capacity.

[daring moat]

If I don't have a lot of candies, would activing be a fair second option though?

[sick sentinel]

You'd get 8 hrs of base kills worth

[obtuse rover]

🤷‍♂️
I don't know if the forge will autoload while active or not.

[dapper prism]

rather just switch 2min claims when you remember

[obtuse rover]

But it'll be a paltry sum

[rough wasp]

might as well 2 min cycle then Rizky

[vapid cove]

wat about the auto deposit thing you can use on the arm in W3

just keeps on smelting

[daring moat]

Good edit

[zinc torrent]

is it worth leaving my incubator full for rarirty if this it where im at in breeding?

[obtuse rover]

It will only ever smelt whatever is currently in the forge when you claim afk time.

Then it will reload, but it will then only smelt that load again next time you claim afk time.

[proud pumice]

iirc base eggs give more exp per time, so they're overall better

[vapid cove]

hmmm

[zinc torrent]

oh ok ty

[dapper prism]

That doesnt have any relevance to anything, you can stack as many bars as you want in your anvil. But the Cap you get from the Archer talent is capped based on your forge capacity

[sick sentinel]

And more dead dna

[daring moat]

So.. I chuck my sb somewhere and check up on it every 2 mins? Orr...

[vapid cove]

i mean my capacity on there is like 400k

but it just throws it in my bank and keeps smelting

[ashen marsh]

do I just need to collect 1000 equinox mirrors?

[obtuse rover]

You might be thinking of the anvil.

We're talking about the furnace/smelter.

[vapid cove]

yeah

[paper sail]

If you have an ore cap above like 35-40k, you're hella cheating

[vapid cove]

ik

it deposits the smelted bars into my bank

[obtuse rover]

Your slots do not hold 400k ore

[proud pumice]

1 is enough, they're a 1 in 1000 drop from blood bones

[vapid cove]

yeah the slots are like 40k but the smelted stuff stacks to like 400k per slot

[ashen marsh]

ahh okay I have 1.6k but I have not paid attention to it bc the first requirement is to have a bunch of grn stacks

[vapid cove]

and just deposits

[rough wasp]

I wish it could

[obtuse rover]

The smelted stuff stacks to infinity

[dapper prism]

As i said, the amount of bars are compeltely irrelevant...

https://i.imgur.com/5n40Nkb.png

You could get that to 100m bars if you wanted to, it doesnt matter.

The issue is 1 logout session can only create the amount of bars based on your ORE CAP

[vapid cove]

log in daily lol

[dapper prism]

34203 / 2 ore per bar = Amount of bars * 75% extra modifier on bars from forge upgrade

[ashen marsh]

I only have like 6 green stacks. is equinox useless for me rn?

[vapid cove]

no its useful even if you dont have them

[proud pumice]

is there anything to do to improve the ore cap? mine is lower

[dapper prism]

Citringe w5 achievement and Arcade shop when it's in rotation

[pearl pebble]

does the family guy effect the character itself

[daring moat]

Is there a recommended area for me to chuck my SB? Like.. Beans or something?

[vapid cove]

buy the upgrades on the smelter

[rough wasp]

I hope he bought all the upgrades

[paper sail]

Gmush

[daring moat]

okay, gmush it is

[dapper prism]

I do citringe 👀

[paper sail]

Weirdo

[proud pumice]

i need to get 5m citringe soon then

[rough wasp]

Weirdo

[dapper prism]

😦

[rough wasp]

soon

[vapid cove]

nice

I need a lot of upgrades on that

[rough wasp]

Now to chem cycle

[ashen marsh]

do i press upgrade?

[proud pumice]

chem

[paper sail]

I've lost track of my salt ranks. Just letting them run wild until we get another tab

[proud pumice]

until they start consuming your whole gmush prints

[rough wasp]

I keep track to make sure I can upgrade buildings still

[obtuse rover]

That's perfectly fine
Just rank up whenever convenient and never let the red or green fuel run out.

[rough wasp]

I just rank up everything now

[paper sail]

5m caps per hour would be truly terrifying

[proud pumice]

just reach rank 1000 red salt

[pearl pebble]

holy fk i discovered 2 new bubbles with under 2% chance after 6 tries wtf.

[vapid cove]

ye sometimes luck is on your side

[pearl pebble]

lmfao

[paper sail]

I should be safe for a little while longer

[vapid cove]

other times it takes months to unlock chemical plants 😦

[pearl pebble]

this is a good use for my oj juice right

[pseudo blaze]

i unlocked last 4 bubbles with 30 tries

[paper sail]

It is the only use

[pearl pebble]

ok bet

[proud pumice]

drinking it is better, they're really tasty

[vapid cove]

now unlock W6 bubbles before the world is out

[pearl pebble]

true. let me drink my orange juice juice

so its 5 bubbles per world?

[proud pumice]

yes

[pearl pebble]

wow

i unlocked all the warrior ones

[obtuse rover]

In W4 we got bubbles that make stats give us money%

In W6 we need bubbles that make stats give us DR

[clear quartz]

i need t get a head start on the w6 ones i suppose

[signal osprey]

Non hourly clickers in shambles

[proud pumice]

money in char gives main stats

[clear quartz]

oh right ive missed so many hourly clicks today

[vapid cove]

i just held the unlock button

and it unlocks them but cant see the bubbles till W6

[obtuse rover]

The feedback loop

[proud pumice]

to infinity and beyond

[clear quartz]

even better, have the luck ones give drop% based on money storage and atoms onhand

[slender sandal]

in tips-n-tricks there's a thread with how much cost each upgrade is up to w10 (expected) so you can gauge when to stop if you want

[clear quartz]

and beans kills

[pearl pebble]

352 birthday cards useful or nah

[clear quartz]

ooo and birthday cards in storage

[signal osprey]

Make everything scale off of bean kills

[finite lake]

So glad my Bubo is finally at level 40 Div. Waiting for my BB to hit 40 as well before I make another big divinity swap and can finally take him out. Bubo is 132 and my highest ES is 340 lmao

[pearl pebble]

i already got the bday hat recipe so not sure if i should save the rest

[obtuse rover]

Inversely, though.
Bean pacifism.

[pearl pebble]

what does lvl40 do

[proud pumice]

about 3 gold coins

[dapper prism]

TranQi, passive XP

[finite lake]

Gives you a style that gives 3 xp even if you're not at the altar

[pearl pebble]

lifechanging

[signal osprey]

Bean pacifism is a concept my brain isnt capable of understanding

[dapper prism]

only if you have all the important gods 😄

[pearl pebble]

3 gold coins can actually be lifechanging?

[proud pumice]

to w1 players yes

[vapid cove]

in the bronze age yeah

[pearl pebble]

lmao

[obtuse rover]

I can change a lot of beans' lives over 3 gold coins in their pockets.

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-de-niro-actor-touche-pointing-gif-17784886

[pearl pebble]

just gonna walk up to some noob. have 300 birthday cards

keep the change ya filthy animal

[obtuse rover]

They rapidly age 300 years and turn to dust before you.
You have committed murder.

[finite lake]

I've started using them as placeholders

[obtuse rover]

I'm saving them for a greenstack

[dapper prism]

Just autosort tbh, the sooner u get used to it the better..

autosort is honestly really good except for a few items that you get used to

[knotty urchin]

I dont even have the space

[knotty urchin]

agreed

I maxed out gem shop chest

so dont say gems

[dapper prism]

even with all gemshop storage.. still dont have the space xD

[knotty urchin]

yeah

[proud pumice]

[dapper prism]

Also got 2.5 alts with stuff on them 👀

[proud pumice]

are you trying to craft luckier lad from storage or something?

[dapper prism]

no, thats what im 2nd ES is for

[proud pumice]

holding enough armor to equip a whole mercenary group

[dapper prism]

No 👀
https://i.imgur.com/u10HMoW.png

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, when W6 comes out I'm hoping Lava will bump storage slots up again because there's no way we can hold* a new world's worth of content into our chests.
Especially while trying to use our inventory slots to hold lucky lads.

[proud pumice]

yeah with w6 i understand

[ruby yarrow]

I Hope lucky lads will stack one day

[dapper prism]

The issue is that you cant reclaim certain items ever again

As simple as W1-3 trophies

[ruby yarrow]

Not that I have any lucky lads

[proud pumice]

that's like the rich people that have the head of an antler as decoration on their house

[dapper prism]

So things come down to "to keep or to permanently toss" that actually hold value.

[proud pumice]

oh fair enough

[dapper prism]

Then there's the "sentimental" maybe potential cosmetic in the far future.

[proud pumice]

i have barely any trophys

[dapper prism]

Me to 👀
https://i.imgur.com/jWGBPGV.png

Tossed them into storage earlier for fun

Just got all those W1-3's this morning

[proud pumice]

giant trophies collection

[lapis mesa]

i need to go finish out quests for alts

[clear quartz]

i should after i finish up the quest greenstacks

[dapper prism]

My quests, sadly mainly just timegated for 5 days and 8 days.
https://i.imgur.com/PTwV9FB.png

Oh forgot, Cant get that last W1 Trophy, impossible because i lost a token probably early game. So rip that.

[rough wasp]

done

I misclicked a small chem

[dapper prism]

Just remember the timegated W2 Fish dock Token and W3 Cog. Else you'll plan it all out like me and forget about those and then still be timegated by a week+ xD

[daring rapids]

Just the way I like it

[dapper prism]

beefy?

[daring rapids]

Balance of Pain lol

[obtuse rover]

So long as you're not getting 1-shot by crystals, I suppose

[daring rapids]

I might if they spawn on me but typically they die before the spawn in so meh

[thin lark]

Should I always be trying to prioritize boat/captain speed when early on in Sailing?

[obtuse rover]

If 1 touch will, indeed, kill you then you'll have troubles afking overnight with them. Your luck will run out eventually.

[dapper prism]

Loot and/or Speed

[obtuse rover]

But if you can soak 1 hit then you'll be totally fine.

[daring rapids]

yeah not 100% sure if I can or not, this chars only got 2.5k def atm, still rocking amarok

[obtuse rover]

Maybe walk into one and find out, if you're feeling brave.
It'll let you know whether you can safely leave it running like that

[dapper prism]

Theyll still 1 shot you (crystals) i think

https://i.imgur.com/YvXqgSM.png

[daring rapids]

rip yea

ill turn that prayer off then

[dapper prism]

PS: not sure how accurate the calc was at the end, still had some issues with it

[obtuse rover]

As a reminder, with bubo you can safely active anywhere so long as you have:
High damage
Points in the lifesteal talent
Enough HP/def to soak 1 crystal hit
And points in the talent that makes you invincible for longer after getting hit

[clear quartz]

yeah the cog ill have to start thinking about buying sometime

[fathom lagoon]

W5 statue grind has begun

[true obsidian]

but i'm not even try to grind w3 statue...

[placid tusk]

Is the only way to avoid lagging while active to buy the auto looting pack?

[true obsidian]

or you can filter mob drop

[dapper prism]

Kinda, You can filter drops but not coins afaik?

[clear quartz]

yeah coins will get you without it even if you filter everything else

[rough wasp]

Lemme just insert a comma there

I will become like Alvin

[pearl pebble]

what was the recommended upgrade for ticktock? was it 30 points?

[fathom lagoon]

[untold saffron]

There's a recommended ticktock level?

[loud cedar]

There ain't no recommended level lol

[solid lantern]

30 points was for stonks

tiktok was max for 5.4% afk gain 🤷‍♂️

[pearl pebble]

i have no idea. i am a noob

how many golden kebabs do u guys have

[sour totem]

Does Strafe Talent affect afk gains?

[gentle furnace]

84 for 5.01%

[gentle furnace]

If you arent ms capped then yes

[sour totem]

so do Attack Talents have a cap on how much AFK gains they can give yoyu

because my SB is getting capped at 5k mobs in the world 5 1st mpa even tho there is lots more upgrades to do

[pearl pebble]

i unlocked a relic that gives me another crate to spend PO boxes on but i dont see it. me stupid?

also what is the best resource to know what to spend PO boxes on?

and should i max out the mob respawn in w5 merit or save for something else?

[slender sandal]

you spend po boxes on everything eventually you'll just get gated by being too lazy to spend pens

[split orbit]

I think you need to unlock the final delivery service before you can access tab II

[pearl pebble]

ah okay. thank you

[slender sandal]

but to start with things for that specific character (chop for mages/etc) and also the combat ones are good, the DR box in the bottom right is always a good choice since DR is so important

[pearl pebble]

okay. ill prob do DR/dmg for my active plays and then the skills for printers. ty

[slender sandal]

once you start really active/crystal farming though you'll be drowning in pens

[amber dagger]

Does the shiny chance sailing relic even work

[pearl pebble]

does anyone know best w5 merit point spend?

[raw summit]

how i make this?

[pearl pebble]

go to w5 town and stand behind the fat anteater

or mole. whatever it is. its fat

with a hat

[raw summit]

oh ok ,thx

[pearl pebble]

im halfway to lvl500 right? (wrong answers only)

[lean snow]

na your 75% of the way their the xp gets lower the higher you get to make it easier to level up

[olive drift]

Yes you are

[dapper prism]

Was bored, but:
1 to 250
884 492 781 554.4
250 to 500
6 515 197 655 455 290.0

Thats 7366.03x the XP again 👀

For fun, if you have an XP rate of 50million xp/h = 5 429 331d 9h 6m 33s

Good night.

[clear quartz]

think these portraits are kinda a pita to greenstack, about 1 days into farming and have 1mil, seems like thats excessively long

[summer ravine]

tbf i think it took me longer to get from 1-250 than it did 250-500

[clear quartz]

so a monh for all 3? ick

[thin kernel]

noob questen inc... the cooking ladle.. wich is "best" clam after 8 hours ( for cnance to candy) or clam for ea hour ? ( does it give more ladle that way?)

[clear quartz]

ive been doing more often but feels like its worse than the long ones even with more chances of double afk

[sacred verge]

for a noob, claim every 2h for a chance for sailing proc with hampters 😛

for ladles it wont matter

[clear quartz]

also I guess i just realized, 200 greenstacks isnt of immense priority so maybe ill shelve thiss ince i feel like id rather be working on beans or pretty much absolutely anything other than farming w2 mobs for portraits/stars lol

[sacred verge]

200 GS is a waste of time if youre not allrdy well into it

w6 will make it easy compared to now

[clear quartz]

right

i figure by the time im actually close to it itll release and will be a nonissue

at 140 greenstacks right now and have some easy ish ones i can get of course but yeah

[sacred verge]

if ur at 140 now you wont make it before w6 anyway

[clear quartz]

makes sense

now to decide, go back to w4 on my proper ES to farm mobdrops for vials, or more bubo chicanery, or dk at beans/whatever

[versed hound]

Does afk gains star sign work for divinity?

[rough wasp]

nop

[versed hound]

Ok

And the exp sign?

[granite grove]

it only works if stats are explicitly div exp % or div pts %

nothing else works for divinity

[versed hound]

Ok

Thx

[magic oyster]

Active BB to 500, this is going to take a while ;p

[wispy sapphire]

pog

[civic creek]

Does increasing the God Rank in divinity do anything except for the one skill of ES?

[vagrant mountain]

increases div exp

[civic creek]

Well then

(I'm not missing something, right? I just put everyone into TranQi and forget about divinity (especially with doot)?)

[vagrant mountain]

pretty much yeah

you can push div levels with mindful but thats more a late game thing

[slender sandal]

wasn't there a benefit of some sort for having high div levels (other than the rift thing)?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah the minor bonuses are very good and scale with divinty levels

[icy sandal]

minor bonuses increase, but mainly people r focusing that for bear

[vagrant mountain]

also if you have doot, rabbit and goat minor link bonuses stack across all your characters

[tawny oxide]

does doot give all minor links

[vagrant mountain]

money and afk

[tawny oxide]

or do you still have to choose the minor link you want

[vagrant mountain]

nah they're all active

im getting almost 50% all afk from my minor links

[tawny oxide]

wow th emro ei ehar about him the more busted it is i dont want to to spend money though so i prob shouldnt worry about what doot does

[vagrant mountain]

yeah doot is expensive

unless youre lucky

it's ok, there will probbly be new max talent book in w6

so you can collect books all over again

[slender sandal]

more star talents and not enough points for it

[vagrant mountain]

cant wait to see how fast endgamers finish w6 heh

[slender sandal]

usually the first couple months of a new world it's just the skills + maps with no boss

[vagrant mountain]

my guess is 6 hrs

[tawny oxide]

can i kill w5 boss with 50m damage im at moles now

[vagrant mountain]

maybe his normal version

you'll need about 100-200b to beat his nightmare version and unlock divine scarf

[tawny oxide]

im not trying for nightmare any day soon just wanted to be able to do w6 on release also how do you even get that high on damage alchemy?

[vagrant mountain]

alchemy plays a big part

the last alchemy bubble will easily double your damage

and crystal steak from sailing is a big damage buff

[tawny oxide]

what is crystal steak i just unlocked mushroom island

[vagrant mountain]

i think it is 5m speed for the island?

[tawny oxide]

oh that woyld be a lot of bonus

[vagrant mountain]

yeah unlocking crystal steak and last alchemy bubble usually gets you into the billions easy

[wispy sapphire]

which color for the last alchemy bubble are you talking about?

[vagrant mountain]

all of them

except yellow

[wispy sapphire]

ah

[tawny oxide]

im one away froim maxing my warrior cauldron is there any easy ways to increase relic chance i feel like these later islands dont drop their relics

[vagrant mountain]

nah sailing is a big time gate

[tawny oxide]

also i hjave a 2% chance for final orange bubble is that normal or is that low to be trying

[slender sandal]

get your sailing speed up and check as often as you can and hope to get lucky, sailing is really annoying

and last bubbles are always low, just get a ton of water in it from bubo and then spam

[vagrant mountain]

nah it's fine, if you play bubo, you will be able to click the brew button multiple times

[tawny oxide]

i need the artifact from mushroom island to effectively spam Cranium cooking

im going to focus on maxing all cauldrons before i go for unrealeased bubbles

[vagrant mountain]

yeah once you get tenteyecle to 200, you will have an easier time doing your cranium

[tawny oxide]

i mean i do cranium cookign when its up but its not worth taking my bubo out of lab to do cranium cooking when its so low

oh ive already put a bit into resource cost reduction is there a max to those values?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i didnt do a lot of cc until i got 200 tenteyecle

[vagrant mountain]

170 is the max, it's not a big deal really but it's not worth spending your time maxing them

[tawny oxide]

oh that doesnt seem worthile seem better just to spam attempts

[vagrant mountain]

yeah unlock your bubbles as soon as you can

then slam all your characters in sigils

sigils are the real time gate

[tawny oxide]

i have my lowest alchemy dude slowly working on sigils

[stuck pasture]

Don’t do sigils at all until all your bubbles are unlocked

[tawny oxide]

digits?

oh

i know its not efficient i just want him slowly working on it

and i dont lose that much

[past grove]

@tawny oxide you can work on the first 3/5 sigils but after that it gets steep. More worth to get bubbles first afger that

[tough horizon]

isnt there a guide somwhere for the weekly battle SWR Containment?

[half wedge]

Do you guys know how to solve that issue? I have 14B accuracy, its the same on every map

[pseudo blaze]

i think u need more accuracy

[mellow kraken]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428

[eternal dove]

wait apparently ice 4 is max you can go for weap limit in dungs

[clever narwhal]

So, realistically, how much damage should a lvl 178 ES have?

And why is it more than 740K - 2Mil?

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[stray valve]

500b

because why not

[clever narwhal]

No but really, I'm dying in low damage, and I have no clue where my bottleneck is

[slender sandal]

always alchemy

[eternal dove]

9/10 the answer is alchemy

[stray valve]

pump up everything and you will get better... eventually

[slender sandal]

there are tons of different sources of damage increases in the game, generally just as you progress it'll steadily go up, and then some alchemy bubbles or sailing artifacts or other thing will get you to spike somewhat

[clever narwhal]

Alchemy really? Just the cauldrons or more the vials?

[slender sandal]

bubbles and vials, but mainly the bubbles

[untold saffron]

Can't wait for the W6 power spike

[slender sandal]

not even sure one will be needed, w5 spiked so hard lol

[vagrant mountain]

maybe we will unlock new dmg colour

[slender sandal]

but i'm sure it will be there

[lone galleon]

w6 rebirth mechanic, opposite of power spike incoming

[untold saffron]

Reset all your skills to 1, hype

[prisma drift]

Dang I got roots 170

My game crashed at 180

[vagrant mountain]

sad

170 decent tho

[prisma drift]

I didn’t have my blobfish ready

So now I’m just setting all my traps up lol

[high harbor]

What would be the recommended damage for Vman to beat nightmare Kruk, i'm at 1260-2700M and i feel like i will struggle a lot. Also what's the best way to boost his dmg ?

[vagrant mountain]

i need to get to TD, my only vials left are critters, souls, and bars

[prisma drift]

30000M take 20-30 minutes

[vagrant mountain]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
here's a guide with vman at 88b

[sweet mountain]

Does cranium cooking help with sigil speed?

[high harbor]

Thanks, i will check it out

[green glacier]

I wish! Those things take literal months

[stuck pasture]

Show us your afk info

[prisma drift]

Mobile overflow

[strong nova]

woot

[prisma drift]

There’s a limit before it becomes 0

Gotta get less acc

[vagrant mountain]

probably around 2.147b

[prisma drift]

Only on mobile tho

Steam is cool lol

[vagrant mountain]

imagine not using your desktop as a remote idleon server

[green glacier]

Ohhh that's why the last w1 pet was saying negative number to next pet lmao

[green glacier]

I'm severely nearsighted. Using my computer requires me to wear my glasses, and I get a headache if I wear 'em too much.

[vagrant mountain]

just use steam link to play on your desktop from your phone

[green glacier]

Already gotta wear my glasses at work, crystal cards aren't worth migraines

[green glacier]

Ugh steam link is ass

I do use it sometimes but it's constantly making the screen go black or dropping connection

[tulip kayak]

almost max! no way!

[green glacier]

Ooh nice

[eternal dove]

until you atom upgrade

[vagrant mountain]

real max is 120

[green glacier]

Way to burst the bubble guys

[vagrant mountain]

actually 140 if you unlock the last superbit in gaming

[ashen marsh]

how do I unlock blob lol

[green glacier]

This ain't endgame chat

[green glacier]

W4 quest at choccies I think

Yay I got an upvite

[vagrant mountain]

@prisma drift @tulip kayak should we invite him to the party?

[prisma drift]

Who else is in the party?

[vagrant mountain]

that's @rough wasp

[green glacier]

Why are you bothering to party at beans?

[prisma drift]

Oh I invited the duck yesterday and they ignored me

[prisma drift]

Beans is the endgame active spot

I’ve been there for 2 weeks lol

[green glacier]

But still why bother partying up?

[vagrant mountain]

why not?

[prisma drift]

Same reason we go to the same server

[vagrant mountain]

sometime's it's only hoggi's commpany that keeps me going

[green glacier]

Guess I'm still too nooby to get it lol

[vagrant mountain]

[prisma drift]

I’m always at beans now

Going for 300 statue

At least until w6 drops

Then y’all can race me to the the boss room lol

[green glacier]

My nug's only just gotten above 2mil now and I'm only getting a quarter of a million oak sample

[vagrant mountain]

it takes like 2 days for a level now

[slender sandal]

[prisma drift]

I have 1.3M mining statues on me

That’s a couple levels

[vagrant mountain]

i deposit mine almost every day

[prisma drift]

I don’t I like to watch them grow

[vagrant mountain]

i think i need another week or two to finish 300 statues

and then idk what im gonna do

maybe go for 350 statues

[prisma drift]

1M plunder when?

[vagrant mountain]

true

maybe ill do quest items + plunder stacking

[prisma drift]

It’s an achievement so you gotta do it

Why do quest items?

[tulip kayak]

lmfaooo

I wanna be in party 😦

[prisma drift]

You think you’ll do 200 green stacks before w6

Join us

We are the bean brotherhood

[vagrant mountain]

you left after like 5 mins idk if you can be in the party

[tulip kayak]

im back!

[prisma drift]

Oh only 5 minutes at beans

[tulip kayak]

I just had to do some things

[prisma drift]

The requirements are 1B bean kills

[tulip kayak]

like get traps

D:

[prisma drift]

My DK has almost 4B

[vagrant mountain]

[tulip kayak]

im just trying to get more power statues rn so I can do the 20k quest on other chars lmfaooo

[prisma drift]

You need to hit the beans

[tulip kayak]

but ill take the other statues dont get me wrong

[vagrant mountain]

not even lava skulled

[tulip kayak]

soon

I mean I could just candy it but no use if im gonna get it naturally anyway

[vagrant mountain]

you can join the bored brothers in the future after you've proven yourself

[tulip kayak]

okay fine

[prisma drift]

How many crystal cards you at monke?

[tulip kayak]

8.2mil...

[vagrant mountain]

almost green stack

[tulip kayak]

me when only rift im missing is 5 star cards

I wonder how many ruby cards I would get instantly lol

[prisma drift]

I don’t think that’s ruby

[tulip kayak]

guh

[prisma drift]

I think the crystals need a lot for ruby

[tulip kayak]

I still need to get my w5 guy higher lol

[prisma drift]

3x mine

I’m at like 2.7

[tulip kayak]

w1 is 2nd least crystal card I have I think

I have more in w2 and w4 and w5

[prisma drift]

Sounds about right

[vagrant mountain]

i've been at the bored ones longer than time itself

[tulip kayak]

double ish in w2 triple in w4

[half wedge]

If its an overlow issue on mobile, why do i only have this issue on one of my 2 DKs

[prisma drift]

Because it’s an issue with the talent

Unless you’ve figured it out?

And it’s not what I said

[tulip kayak]

Im not doing it yet, but for when I do, is there a place I can see where I can max my damage/multikill for my super chows so I use least amount of candy

/afk the least amount of hours

[half wedge]

Unfortunately not

[steady beacon]

Can someone explain mob respawn to me? It doesn't seem to do anything when I equip the star sign. Same kill per hour.

[prisma drift]

It’s snapshot

Leave the map and renter

If it doesn’t go up it’s because you aren’t hitting kill cap

You need more movespeed/dmg

[steady beacon]

Ah! Thanks

Didn't realize it was a snapshot

[swift wharf]

Probably toolbox or efficiency somewhere

Maybe?

[tight saddle]

So uhh there is the trapping checklist in questions-w3w4 pins, but I haven't redone traps in a long while... So what I am asking is that do I just need to minmax my hunter and go place all traps through the drone with him or do I need to setup all of my characters and go set the traps with each character?

[serene solstice]

only min max your bm and place all traps their for most critter gain

on vman for most xp gain

[tight saddle]

Oh thank god

Yeah I'll have to do my vman separately now for xp, but I'll do the rest with bm

[sharp sluice]

what will happen if I buy this again after I got all ancient

[pine yacht]

do it and tell us

iirc you shouldnt be able to buy it

[bold quiver]

click

[sharp sluice]

790 crystal on the line here

alright

[tight saddle]

Where does the automatic trap collection ability come from?

[bold quiver]

rift

[tight saddle]

ahh ty

[sharp sluice]

nothing happen @pine yacht @bold quiver

[tight saddle]

Every 24h so I shouldn't probably place traps which take like 10h

[bold quiver]

if u want it to always be collected by it, no

[tight saddle]

Yeah not planning to be active with traps :S

IIRC the traps that take longer give worse x / hour

[bold quiver]

yes, longer the trap, worse critter/h

[tight saddle]

Do I even need beetles for anything

No vial, no nothing

Or owls for that matter

[pine yacht]

greenstack then forget

[bold quiver]

alchemy

[pine yacht]

owls have an alch bubble

not a great one but bubble none the less

[tight saddle]

Beetles the only useless one after greenstack?

[edgy pendant]

Alchemy

[lyric adder]

Didn't take long

[edgy pendant]

Catching bubble

[tight saddle]

ahh fk it's the bubble boosting one too :C

[sacred verge]

not a good one anyway

[pine yacht]

critters just suck in general honestly ...

[edgy pendant]

You can atom it pretty easily

[pine yacht]

the 100B frogs is the worst offender, for max library

[sacred verge]

is it 100B for max library?

damn, i did not know

[glacial venture]

100b or 100m?

[hybrid spindle]

most certainly not 100m because that number wouldn't be a problem for endgamers

[pine yacht]

170B

[bold quiver]

not that hard to get 170B frogs to be honest

[hybrid spindle]

I have to admit, I'd rather move a 0 from the frogs to red salt ^^

[pine yacht]

ye but hard to keep them in the chest

[glacial venture]

you guys really still need books?

[bold quiver]

true hadnt thought about that

[hybrid spindle]

absolutely

[granite grove]

issue is 1b storage cap tho

[sacred verge]

does it at some point requier more than 1b at a time tho?

[bold quiver]

proably yes

[glacial venture]

why not just lvl beginner bubble ignore overdues?

[pine yacht]

because you want building lvls

[bold quiver]

otherwise we wouldnt be able to reach 170B

[pine yacht]

rift construction mastery is a thing

[hybrid spindle]

is ignore overdues linear?

[pine yacht]

more building lvls = more bonuses ( we mostly want Build Rate at this point )

[pine yacht]

considering how dogwater it is, probably

[glacial venture]

thought it was the w3 salt lick^^

lvling only towers atm

[sacred verge]

why lvling only towers? lvling the "fastest" wil lgive more gains

[glacial venture]

td

not to mention that im really lazy atm^^

[sacred verge]

still at some point lvling shrines etc would net more speed making it faster to lvl towers

[clever narwhal]

Best 3rd archer class? Feel like both are not that impactful

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/TGJlDdN.png WE COOKIN' NOW BOIS

[sacred verge]

100% SB

SB is usefull

[solemn spire]

if nothing else sb is so much easier to lvl up for total level count

[sacred verge]

also great for afk kills

gmush farming

[pine yacht]

can confirm, second BM is beyond useless

[sacred verge]

do you really have two BM?

[pine yacht]

imma need 2 elite class swap tokens next time they are on rotation

[pine yacht]

2 BM 2 bubo

[sacred verge]

lol

[pine yacht]

made them before the release of newer elite classes

and didnt have gems for elite tokens after that

[sacred verge]

that sucks

[bold quiver]

huge. but i increased it from 140B to 681B and nothing changed

[pine yacht]

damn I really regret getting shiny and event as first 2 islands XD

[bold quiver]

crystal island is the worst, i still dont know why ppl get it

i still havent unlocked it

[pine yacht]

it gives quite a bit of xp tho ngl

[bold quiver]

lol it doesnt

[solemn spire]

i get 2-3 lvls on my 200+ character every two days

[bold quiver]

the amount of exp u get there is insignificant

[pine yacht]

I still get like 30 % at lvl 425

[pure meadow]

is fractal actually doing anything?

[zinc torrent]

W5 boss weapons on all chars complete ✅

[pine yacht]

for 1 click, it's quite nice honestly

[bold quiver]

yeah, the chance to get afk trophy

[jagged charm]

You playing on phone?

[pure meadow]

nah on steam

[jagged charm]

You have to do nothing, as in afk in town

[pure meadow]

is that worth it to sacrifice progress on any char that could be doing other stuff unless you are super late game and have ecplised everything and all vials and stuff

[bold quiver]

yes

[jagged charm]

Candy in fractal Island also counts as nothing

[bold quiver]

better than an island that gives u something that u can infinite farm with coloseum

[jagged charm]

I just stop at 2500 hours worth of candy

For sailing artifacts rate

[bold quiver]

yeah that helps a lot

i'd stop at 2500 also

[jagged charm]

other neat bonuses too

More credits too

[pure meadow]

guess i will get fractal next then

[hybrid spindle]

so I assume after having trash, seasalt, and shimmer, the next I should go for is fractal?

[bold quiver]

its more like: Crystal island gives u a resource that u can already infinite farm through DK + W2 colloseum

so i dont see the point of picking it up at least before it being the last 2

i will agree that its better to choose crystal instead of fractal last island pick if u are not at endgame, but otherwise, crystal has no point

[jagged charm]

Crystal I think is for the more lazier players

[worn sonnet]

Crystal island does give you nutty xp for helping your char 7-10 catch up

[bold quiver]

that exp is meaningless

u can throw your characters witha fk gains at the best map and u would already lvl up way way more than th at

[bold quiver]

yeah i agree with this haha

for ppl that just wanna chill and collect some stuff

[jagged charm]

Is the exp gain flat here or % based?

[worn sonnet]

I think it's mostly that I just don't think the fractal boosts are that good

[bold quiver]

damn 10k hours to get the 25% more gold nuggets is 417 days worth of candy

[bold quiver]

yeah thats teh point, at least there are bonuses haha

[jagged charm]

I've spent like a hour or half using 2.5k hours worth

[bold quiver]

while crystal give u something that u can already infinite farm anytime, fractal gives u something

[hybrid spindle]

yeah, I don't see that either. But I'll definitely get the extra artifact chance

[bold quiver]

damn i bet. I want that 10k hour thing but jez, 416h of candy

its like random island. Its 1 event per week (total suck) but at least u can buy 3 extra stuff there, even tho they arent that great

[jagged charm]

My muscle memory is hitting the "I" key to save on moving the mouse much

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkk

need to rebind the mouse keys so that u roll the scroll and it clicks 2 times

[tight saddle]

daamn

[jagged charm]

Oh

Neat

[bold quiver]

or hold

[hybrid spindle]

do you still get charge for candy used on fractal?

[jagged charm]

You'll quickly fill on anvil and charge too doing so

[bold quiver]

so close

[tight saddle]

Gotta wait for worship charges, 10 levels from maxing the carry cap prayer

[iron citrus]

Is there any information on the eta of World 6 yet, based on pictures thinking it may be farming as a new skill 😄 I may be wrong (I'm always wrong)

[slender sandal]

for w5 he teased stuff for 3 months but we don't really know

[tardy oak]

how do you earn the red divity pearls ? my friend doenst have any and i have 1k spare

[viral snow]

W6 tomorrow
Or some day else in the next decade

[civic creek]

I think it's a divinity, right?

[jagged charm]

Yes

[tardy oak]

ahh ye thanks !

[worn sonnet]

bird i think

[magic fjord]

Obvious alchemy choice aside (Cookin Roadkill), what are the best things to upgrade to get more out of cranium cooking / get it to come back faster. Worth doing much with attack speed?

[static basin]

no

[tight saddle]

Current talent max is 250 I think, so getting to that cap I guess

[viral snow]

245*

Not including bear, ES family etc

[tight saddle]

Wait it's probably more? I got 245 atm but doesn't rift slug give 25

[static basin]

if u include everything its like 320

[viral snow]

Yeh 245 „base“ level
245 us the highest you can book

[tight saddle]

Oh rift slug just gives +25 on top and is not a cap raiser?

That's even more ridiculous

[magic fjord]

Sadly no slug here. All the obvious stuff is upgraded, was just wondering about other alchemy / stamp options to improve it.

[desert night]

I'm assuming your attack bar is already optimized? don't want unnecessary abilities slowing down your revive

[magic fjord]

Aye

I'm getting 300k most times with oranges, but I've seen much higher.

[balmy harness]

Where is the best place to farm these 3? https://gyazo.com/0053ca056e324dd46906f16daf3325bc

[civic creek]

crystals in W5

I'd suggest Citringes with DK

[balmy harness]

Alright thanks

[bright vine]

Get boxing gloves instead of staff, upgrade aura, tentacle eye and canister skills to 245

[desert night]

Some of that may be logout tricking, where they log out before cranium cooking ends, wait for the cooldown to end, then log back in and activate cranium cooking. The counter continues to increment through consecutive uses if there's no time when cranium cooking is not active

[magic fjord]

Interesting. Thanks.

@bright vine All good suggestions, but all done already. Not using any wep at all.

[civic creek]

do the boxing gloves actually matter? because the whole map is covered in poisen and aura usually, right?

[static basin]

450k is normal for end game, slightly higher now after getting an extra aura range from equinox

[viral snow]

300k is solid
End game is 400-500k i believe

[desert night]

the range on boxing gloves prevents you from auto attacking a mob. Well, more accurately, it reduces the number of times you basic attack, because you'll use an ability while running to get in range

[zinc torrent]

Hey I'm looking for help with ok now it's peak gaming quest. Need p and s

[static basin]

boxing gloves matter because aura will only cast in melee range

[civic creek]

and why is auto attacking a mob bad?

ah

huh

I need to try that

[spice meadow]

Yo, does someone know when the next choco chip will be on rotation?

[static basin]

late december

[bright vine]

Aura basically fills up the entire map at certain points

Killing everything without delay

[spice meadow]

Thx!

[civic creek]

And Aura kills faster than poison, right?

If everything is at 308, that should be enough to fill up everything, right?

[bright vine]

When I switched to gloves and didn’t upgrade anything else, I went from 250k to 300k progress

[civic creek]

oh wow

[spice meadow]

Im really taking my time on vman

[bright vine]

And also cranium went from 25k to 22k after the skill finished

[safe harness]

what are best upgrades for shimmer island?

[static basin]

efficiency

[polar light]

I've been rolling for the talent since release and I don't have it yet

[static basin]

The talent is sadly very bad

less than 5% all stat

[polar light]

Primitive gambling brain is telling me to do it

[safe harness]

thanks!

[nimble palm]

Which one

Oh shimmer

[lyric sequoia]

5% all stats is very good, what weed are you smoking that you think it’s bad

[desert night]

What are your all's headcanon on the mechanics in What's Under the Log? Here are what I think the rules are for card movement:

A skull card most often will either stay in place or move 1 card orthagonally from its previous position, but there are rare circumstances where it will move to either its previous location or a random location. How this affects my card choice is I try and choose a previous star card that is furthest away from any skull cards, as long as that star card wasn't also previously a skull card.

[gilded orchid]

my headcanon is 50/50

[viral snow]

It is completly random

[fervent yew]

i pick the top left card everytime

[viral snow]

Once you pick a card a roll is triggered

[fathom lagoon]

It’s rng bro lol

[bold quiver]

spam the card on the same spot as shovel so once u are done with them u automaticaly click shovel , gg

[tacit tulip]

It's decided if you win before you click on any card

[viral snow]

That also boosts nugget luck

[pine yacht]

best place to farm Bullseye statue ?

Wmush ?

or still Beanz

[burnt sail]

Don't think it was ever beans.. they don't even drop it, do they? Wmush on ES is best.

[pine yacht]

ah right... crystals dont drop those

but it's a rare bag drop, why would you farm it with ES ?

[ocean fox]

Can somebody tell me why my two characters have such drastically different kph

[burnt sail]

Because it's still a normal mob rare bag drop. ES spawns more normal mobs.

[ocean fox]

They're both Nobi as well

Right has more damage and more respawn time

[burnt sail]

Are you running an HP increasing prayer like midas or jawbreaker on the 2nd?

[ocean fox]

Nope

Does Uwu rawr affect afk?

[burnt sail]

No

Dumb question but I'm assuming they're on the same map lol

[desert night]

Chips? Prayers?

[fathom lagoon]

Damn w5 statue farming gonna be a bitch. 8 hours overnight for only 2.7k statues lol

[ocean fox]

Yes and no actually
The one with more kph is actually on a higher map of Tremur wurms with more kph than the one with only 450k thats still stuck on crawlers
But when I switch my hunter back to the crawler map he has 900kph so the disrepancy is still htere

[fathom lagoon]

I thought it was sticks in w1?

[ocean fox]

Basically what I'm trying to say is that no theyre not on the same map in the screenshot but that doesnt matter since its still really off, I just switched back and I can take another screenshot

[fathom lagoon]

Nvm active es is wmush

[ocean fox]

Prayers are essentially the same that would affect except my hunter has the damage prayer, but even with it, still has half the damage of my bowman