lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[signal osprey]

Just got back to beans again a couple weeks ago

[barren otter]

[heavy moth]

with the DR you got now statue will be raining hard

[signal osprey]

I havent sampled in 3 months

[barren otter]

i can tell by your maxed skull lmao

impressive you got the ore to 11

[signal osprey]

We do a bit of 2 minute claiming

[barren otter]

impressive might be the wrong word

weird

[signal osprey]

I'm doing fish claims right now in between colo runs

[barren otter]

is a better word

[signal osprey]

Gotta get my green stack

I'm fully aware that the way I play the game might be considered a tad bit degenerate by some

And I have embraced that

[pearl cedar]

Domt forget your superchow claims

[signal osprey]

My BB cant do fish and rams at the same time

[pearl cedar]

You got 2 BB though right?

[signal osprey]

2 fish

[pearl cedar]

1 fish 1 superchow

[signal osprey]

The fish claims are horrible though

Even with 2 this is slow

[pearl cedar]

So are the superchows

[vapid cove]

that was a weird first for me my legend of idleon white screen'd in snake dungeon

[rich epoch]

my equinox vials are somehow better than that

[signal osprey]

When I started I was doing bugs as well because I needed that stack too

[obtuse rover]

They just haven't sampled any of them yet

[signal osprey]

But my SB was getting more than double what both BB's were getting together

The fish just dont exist on these claims

[signal osprey]

I'm a midgamer for a reason

Cant even max equinox vials this long after the update came out

[rich epoch]

anyway I'm better than contract now

just never look at my ie

LMFAO

[signal osprey]

Thats not much of an achievement

I dont even have doot

Everyones better

[rich epoch]

it would be an achievement to be worse than me tbh

[magic oyster]

8000 Name I Guess and 280 Quickslap ?

[rich epoch]

first purchase when you get that job

[pearl cedar]

He believes in the heart of the Bobs

[signal osprey]

Name I guess can be printed with gold so I dont need to waste atoms on a useless damage bubble

[gaunt forge]

i feel like im hurting my gains because i have 3 archer type classes instead of having another mage/war for more 3d prints. is there any item in the game that allows for me to swap its class?

[pearl cedar]

But but but but meme damage important

[signal osprey]

Meme samples 🧠

[pearl cedar]

3 archer classes are normal

[swift pecan]

2.8m to 6.7m nugget upgrade

[rich epoch]

oh that's actually right

[pearl cedar]

Meme samples only gets you the same amount of hourly clicks as everyone else. Meme damage gets me higher gmush/hr

Which I never even do so who cares lol

[signal osprey]

Have you seen the atom cost on the level 30 upgrades

Meme samples arent actually memes anymore

[pearl cedar]

Exactly. You're not getting those bad boys with a 2.4b oak sample

So might as well wait until later

And push damage now

[signal osprey]

Thats why I jsut gotta get bigger than 2.4b

Plus damage has a cap on its usefulness on gmush

[obtuse rover]

I'm waiting for Lava to pull the trigger on increasing prowess cap someday.
That's when everyone gets to enjoy meme samples.

[vagrant mountain]

hes gonna save that for a companion

[rich epoch]

he'll make it a nugget like mechanic in w6

[obtuse rover]

Both awful suggestions, so they are both plausible

[rich epoch]

you'll roll between 0 and 209282828292999998 and that is your new max sample

everyday without a new roll get the number halfed

[pearl cedar]

Feel ya I'm waiting on these two

[signal osprey]

Can't wait for the day I only atom molto loggo for the rest of my life

[barren otter]

i just noticed i have 1 more vial than you cause i sampled for the 4 equinox ones

[rich epoch]

contact officially a noob

gg

[signal osprey]

I'll have all vials maxed again one day

[barren otter]

permastuck midgame

[signal osprey]

Cant wait until I pull doot and can change my name to late game

[barren otter]

next one for sure

[solid lantern]

Yo, is it worth while doing nm w5 boss on dk for pendent drop or doesn't matter?

unsure if its worth semi farming the orb count inside the boss?

[signal osprey]

Orb doesnt work

[solid lantern]

ah so doesnt matter the class/do on vman if I can?

or am I forgetting about some class passive skill that increases loot

[signal osprey]

Vman would be best just for pendant drops alone if you have the damage for it

If not SB would be next best as he has a DR talent too

[lilac path]

I'm just asking why not dk with his orbs

[rich epoch]

do it on BB for the absolute worst of both worlds

[signal osprey]

Orb doesnt work on world bosses

[rich epoch]

lvl up reading

[lilac path]

oh but works on mini right

[signal osprey]

Yeah minibosses it works

[crisp willow]

question... the moai head relic... is that sort of like shrine world tour? If i have it placed in map 2... will i still be getting benefits and xp if im on map 3?

[signal osprey]

Moai head makes it so you have shrine buffs every where all the time

[crisp willow]

Got it.

[signal osprey]

But it doesnt let you level them from every where. You still need to be in the same map/world depending on whether or not you have shrine world tour connected

[crisp willow]

"You must be in same map/world to level them up though" so im w5 map 2 rn... and my shrines are w5 m1... since same world... do i get that XP? or does it have to be the same MAP

[signal osprey]

If you have shrine world tour you can level from anywhere in the same world

[pure ember]

So with doot can I take characters off tranqi and get some div points?

[signal osprey]

Without shrine world tour it has to be the same map

[crisp willow]

mind u it doesnt really matter too much since everyone is on DIV rn.

[crisp willow]

goit it... TY

[solid lantern]

I think they had to be in lab or altar still for div points/xp

[signal osprey]

Goat/arctis combo doesnt provide div all the time if thats what you mean

You still need to be in lab or on the altar

[obtuse rover]

Goat div only works if you're floating in the lab tube, physically.

Bear god gives a different type of connection to the lab, denoted by the unique blue icon on those players.

Since the player isn't actually in the tube when running bear god, the Goat div portion is not active.

[rich epoch]

then it is useless

[obtuse rover]

Doot giving everyone goat still works out to be like a free ~35% afk for all characters.

[signal osprey]

50%

[rich epoch]

(I known I'm just memeing)

it is just that I'm always spouting bullshit so it is hard to tell

[obtuse rover]

Is the hard-cap 5% per link? For some reason I thought it was 4, but I really haven't bothered to look too closely

[signal osprey]

Technically there is no hard cap its just a very harsh softcap but yeah its 5%

[stiff swan]

Are there any write ups on gaming? It’s pretty self explanatory, wondering tho - should I maybe wait until the plants evolve? Hard to time that tho, trying to figure out what best strat is

[signal osprey]

This is for post chemical unlock. Pre chemical pretty much harvest everything as often as you can with the goal being just getting as many rolls at new plants as possible

[stiff swan]

thanks for info. Kind of hard to understand cuz I’m in early gaming but good to know there is eventually a strategy

[signal osprey]

Yeah everything before chemical unlock is basically just trying to get to chemicals as fast as you can

[prisma drift]

Is the prowess cap just for the bubble or the meal too?

[signal osprey]

Both

[obtuse rover]

Prowess cap is global

[rough wasp]

2.0 cap

I used to think it went past 2 cap

so I thought i was doing something

[obtuse rover]

Yo, ghost mobs on W4 TD go crazy

[signal osprey]

200 more colos done

[signal osprey]

Frosty and cans TD's are so cursed lol

[obtuse rover]

I'm feeling it, Mr. Krabs

[solid lantern]

finally got it

and bruh, only 28 xp

[obtuse rover]

Less than 1 exp per lucky lad 😔
I'm worried it won't be an efficient way to push smithing level.

[rapid python]

can someone help me identify the dps diff between my two sb? ive tried to closely match everything. one is at 49M, the other 180M. https://skywitness.idleonefficiency.com/

[vapid cove]

man o man you guys are right about snake dung its bugged

[obtuse rover]

Which one has higher damage, out of curiosity?

[vapid cove]

just barely got to him

[rapid python]

last one is higher

[obtuse rover]

Last one has a damage chip which might make some of the difference

[signal osprey]

Last one has 4k more agi and gold kebabs

[obtuse rover]

Oh yeah, it's the gold kebabs

[rapid python]

i purt 123 kebabs on the first already, 49.9m

[obtuse rover]

Then the 400 agi Contract mentioned

[rapid python]

i think agility is close now too

yes agi is near identical

took chips off second guy, 184m

[obtuse rover]

These talents are slightly different between the characters

The higher damage one has a 10% damage keychain

[rapid python]

let me remove keychain

without keychain, 179M

[signal osprey]

Was either of them a BM that you class swapped?

[rapid python]

dont recall

[signal osprey]

What kind of damage do you have on some of your other characters?

[rapid python]

bubo sheet damage is like 180m and lvl 367, so im really surprised at the damage of the second sb being so high

[obtuse rover]

It's normal for SB to have high sheet damage

[rapid python]

dk at 363 is 100m sheet

[rich epoch]

now to farm efaunt

[signal osprey]

[obtuse rover]

In the snapshot IE you sent the SBs have different cards, with slightly better cards on the higher DPS one

[rapid python]

think that would make a 140m diff? thats like 300%

[obtuse rover]

Well it's probably a sum of multiple smaller things.

[rich epoch]

why are you doing spot the difference? 🤔

[rapid python]

ill make them match, sec

[azure spindle]

were there always 7 skills slots in vip library or are the 2 blank ones at the end new?

[gritty needle]

is it just me or are troll scales really hard to come by? grinding chaotic with a 8x+ drop rate and i must've killed him 30 times and not gotten a single one lol his card says 1 out of 4?

[rich epoch]

why not raise your dr first?

[signal osprey]

They were always there if you had enough vip% to reach them

[rich epoch]

12 is attainable even by scrubs like me you can do it

[rapid python]

changed cards to match, dps dropped lol. 44m

[pure ember]

3rd snake boss has 53M hp compared to the 500k 2nd stage one

[rich epoch]

why do you want then to match?

what the fuck is going on

[rapid python]

one is 180m, the other is 44m. id like them to be close, or at least understand why the diff

[fathom lagoon]

Is it just rng getting to the third boss? The last few stages were hard for me to pass successfully cause of the low dmg

[signal osprey]

The only thing I can think of is one of them was class swapped and got bugged. That can happen sometimes

None of the differences we've found should make that big of a disparity

[fathom lagoon]

Rng meaning getting lucky w easy games to pass

[rich epoch]

yup

you can get hard and/impossible ones and just get fucked

[rapid python]

matching bloque hats didnt help \s

[fathom lagoon]

Damn I ought to try again then. Idk how imma ever beat vengeful grandfrog solo tho lol

[rich epoch]

I found the dungeon gin otherwise

[rapid python]

im told you can join a carry groiup, and once inside the instance, leave group, create your own group, and help finish the fight

[fathom lagoon]

Wait wtf ? That’s op if that’s true

[rich epoch]

just get rank 40. purple loot thingy talent, coinflip, hope to get the horn. if you do you're set. if you don't just restart

[rapid python]

i havent found a group to carry me yet, but someone respectable here said so

willing to try if we can get a group

[rich epoch]

it is actually easy. the horn is broken you just have to focus getting crit chance

[fathom lagoon]

Interesting, imma try if I ever get to that stage in a group lol

[rich epoch]

just get horny

[fathom lagoon]

Gotcha so just keep restarting til you pull the horn?

[rich epoch]

no need for more people

[rich epoch]

it is easier if you do. I did actually without it because I didn't knew better

because it is just really fucking strong

[rapid python]

with coin toss and the right starting things, i feel like i always get horn. i always run out of time tho

[fathom lagoon]

That’s the one that severely lowers your atk speed tho right ?

[rapid python]

accuracy i think

[rich epoch]

the one that makes you only hit crits

[fathom lagoon]

Same, farthest I got was halfway thru killing the frog

Ah bet yea gotcha. I’m gonna do some runs tn and try

[rapid python]

you wanna go try? see if anyone else here wants to come be a hero?

[rich epoch]

just get crit % on the wep and pick other crit items

[obtuse rover]

The attack speed decrease one is bulwark or whatever.
That one's super bad.

[rich epoch]

it is silly how strong it is, really

[fathom lagoon]

Dude I felt like I was having an aneurism waiting for my char to attack again

[signal osprey]

Whats really silly is the rank 50 trait that gives attack speed and another purple item

[obtuse rover]

It's painful, yeah

[rich epoch]

lmao I'm still only 44

[signal osprey]

Both of them can be coin toss and if you use one and get a horn but dont actually collect the horn then the other coin toss can drop a horn too

[fathom lagoon]

I’mma try a few times on my own and I’ll hit you up. I wanna try the snake one again too

[signal osprey]

You have reasonabally good odds to start runs with double horn now lol

[rich epoch]

gotta play with other people to level up properly and 99% of the time I'd rather die

[fathom lagoon]

I look forward to the weekly 40x run lol

[rapid python]

40x ?

[fathom lagoon]

That and giant mob respawn 😍

[rich epoch]

specially since I can single handedly carry. I just go to #party-finder-👪 and summon people to watch it

[granite grove]

happy hour + double dungeon prayer

[fathom lagoon]

20x happy hour w vacuous tissue prayer

[rapid python]

ahh

[rich epoch]

when is the 20x happy hour? is it fixed? is there a way to know it?

[rapid python]

wanna carry me now so i can get equinox cred? 🙂

[rapid python]

ie shows it

[fathom lagoon]

It’s any happy hour really, just works once a week tho. And also you need 4 people in your party minimum I think

[rich epoch]

if you're on when I summon the bodies sure

[halcyon viper]

on what %chance is it a good idea to research?

[stoic crow]

25% ago

[obtuse rover]

Literally as often as possible.
Don't bother saving, in general, just roll constantly.

It's not so punishing now but later on you'll never get higher than 0.3% or so no matter how much you save.

[paper sail]

The odds get worse with every new evolution you try to unlock. Usually, people say to Research after each round of harvests which tends to be 30dna or less

[halcyon viper]

i see, thanks!!

[ruby yarrow]

is it lucky that I got the cheesy chest?

[vapid cove]

I beat it haha feels good

I went with a blocl build since i got the legendary block one early

and was doing like 40k on blocks with 90% block chance

[fathom lagoon]

You’re talking about horn of the foal right? The legendary one?

[vapid cove]

oh yes

[thorn oriole]

Anyone know if the picnic basket dude gives more quest complete?

[obtuse rover]

Dailies don't get added to the count, no

[thorn oriole]

So it’s unique quests, damn

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, pretty sure this is what happens.

[thorn oriole]

Ah I see

Was hoping I could stack em but oh well

Yall know the total quests off the top of your head? I have 200 on one of my characters

[signal osprey]

Picnic stowaway for sampling prep

[ruby yarrow]

#💖future-content-blog message

This is cool

[pearl cedar]

Portal open now go kill kkruk and you wont get an iou anymore

[signal osprey]

W6 time

[ruby yarrow]

Do you think I have enough damage to beat w5 boss

On ES

What would be the damage needed minimum

[pearl cedar]

1

[signal osprey]

As long as you can kill the moles any damage is fine for ES

[ruby yarrow]

What would be recommended

[signal osprey]

His aoe makes the fight a joke

[ruby yarrow]

I have 11M damage

[formal swift]

Same with bubo and DK

[pearl cedar]

[ruby yarrow]

Also I’m not there yet anyways

[pearl cedar]

Probably take you a year but it could do it

[signal osprey]

[ruby yarrow]

I’m only at the stilts guy

[formal swift]

Idk how people have such small damage I rushed w5 right before release and still had like 35M at flomb portal

[pearl cedar]

You didn't rush fast enough

[formal swift]

Well I couldn’t time candy W4 so yeah checks out

[signal osprey]

Ita only rushing if you pretend alch doesn't exist while you do it

[pearl cedar]

I rushed w5 too went in with like 900m dmg

[vapid cove]

i didnt even have 1 mil at flombs lol but im currently at like 4-5 bil range right now

[signal osprey]

I can't wait to rush W6

[ruby yarrow]

I can’t wait to candy w5

[pearl cedar]

I'll probably finish all w5 content before even attempting w6.

[ruby yarrow]

Why

[pearl cedar]

Is there anything even worth candying in w5

[obtuse rover]

Gotta get to W6 asap to start whatever time-gated shenanigans Lava has cooked up.

[signal osprey]

Hampters so you don't waste time on ES

[pearl cedar]

Don't want to rush my account when it isnt ready yet

[white trellis]

I mean just activating the w6 skills should be fine

[ruby yarrow]

The skills there will still help you

[obtuse rover]

If Buddha's account isn't ready for W6 then god help the rest of us.

[pearl cedar]

That's why I'll have like 50 gold stop watches

[formal swift]

W5 Resource cards to 5 star would be the only thing I’d candy but will probably get the last two done at the rate w6 isn’t coming out anytime soon

[signal osprey]

God I hope W6 is hard for buddha

[ruby yarrow]

Same

[signal osprey]

I would love to see what that looks like

Trust me you don't lol

[pearl cedar]

I hope I cant multikill any maps

[formal swift]

Every map has 1 mob only so no bubo cheese

[ruby yarrow]

I Hope I can’t even reach it

[signal osprey]

If you have 11m damage and W6 is hard for him you'll literally get 0 kph on the first mob

[ruby yarrow]

I’m only at the stilts tho

I got time

[granite grove]

gotta hourly click name ig bubble or atom quick slap

[pearl cedar]

Not that much

[formal swift]

What’s the eta anyways 2-3 months

That’s probably the early guess if we get another 33% finished world that he will never remember to finish lol

[sick sentinel]

Well i have a wedding to go to dec 3rd and then move the next weekend so probably then

[signal osprey]

Is W5 considered unfinished still aside from last 2 gods i guess

[ruby yarrow]

Also why when I reach the final world to finally get my account to catch up instead of pushing, another world will appear right in front of me, so I’ll have to push again

[obtuse rover]

It will be another partly-finished world, yeah

Which is probably for the best, I guess.

[ruby yarrow]

I should probably stop pushing but I don’t want to

[pearl cedar]

Well I think he finished w2,3,4 and 4 finally

[formal swift]

Mostly that unless you are gonna include w5 pets in breeding and I could also count the last gaming tab

[pearl cedar]

Fully finished would suck ngl

[formal swift]

I’m not one of those dudes who thinks we need a w5 colo and mini boss tho

[signal osprey]

Gaming doesn't exist so we don't count that

[ruby yarrow]

I sure hope my cooking will become crazy crazy later

[white trellis]

And a w4 dungeon to solo for the next equinox stuff

[pearl cedar]

Hopefully he introduces new resource card set

And new critters

[lusty wedge]

I just want w6 to be another world like w3, where you unlock new features (w3 buildings) but its all built on its own system in the background without needing to idle your characters for months when it first comes out (lab and divinity)

[formal swift]

I agree slightly but if it’s so unfinished I will be upset it’s gotta be a right balance I think w5 was okay I just wish it gotta fully fleshed out with the boss update

[signal osprey]

Insane resources

[formal swift]

And yeah w5 doesn’t have a critter yet

[signal osprey]

Set bonus gives prowess

[formal swift]

Lol that’s a peak joke

[pearl cedar]

This is very upsetting to me

[signal osprey]

Doesn't lift the cap though

[formal swift]

Same here

Reminds me I really need to redo my trapping but man

[ruby yarrow]

.-

[pearl cedar]

Look at these ugly ass numbers since Lava wont give me a new critter

[formal swift]

1000 con soon

I need to work on my vman skills again I started slacking

[pearl cedar]

He's on the board. Im not using ccd though

[formal swift]

That is quite impressive tho

It’ll always be gated by trapping so I decided it doesn’t matter too much

[pearl cedar]

I'll probably throw vman on fishing or chopping until w6

[ruby yarrow]

What will happen when family level reach lv 9999??

[pearl cedar]

You get 11th

And 12th

[signal osprey]

You get banned because thats not possible to get that high

[formal swift]

Mines been doing the logs since I also need the card at 5 star

[opal raptor]

What's the avg damage for a level 195 ES?

[ruby yarrow]

Maybe in W6?

[formal swift]

I hate these questions

[pearl cedar]

Level means nothing

[opal raptor]

what about for like

[formal swift]

10 trillion tho 🤡

[opal raptor]

that's

alor

alot

[formal swift]

It’s also a joke

[opal raptor]

oh

[formal swift]

Just like your question

[opal raptor]

I've seen people with that much

it's kinda crazy

[pearl cedar]

I cannot wait for my level 1 beginner with purple dmg

[vapid cove]

big boi dmg

[formal swift]

Damage doesn’t come from level tho in any sense so the question is nonsense

[signal osprey]

Damage is based on skills not levels. Alchemy is the answer to all things damage

[opal raptor]

Fair

[ruby yarrow]

Talents and equipment?

[opal raptor]

I don't really know where I'm at in the game so I don't know what my damage should be

[formal swift]

But when all he tells us his lvl and posts no image of gear etc expect a joke response

[signal osprey]

No one ever knows where they're at thats part of the fun

[obtuse rover]

It doesn't matter what your damage should be. You can only be what you are

[pearl cedar]

[formal swift]

And yeah just have fun

[signal osprey]

Just gotta make numbers get bigger

[formal swift]

Or farm beans

[pearl cedar]

Beans beans they're good for the heart

[opal raptor]

Fair enough

[formal swift]

Beans and rice

[ruby yarrow]

I’m probably still early early game even tho I’m w5? Who knows?

[opal raptor]

Same

[formal swift]

I’m hardstuck mid gamers for life

[signal osprey]

Thats fine. I'll be stuck in mid game for ever

[ruby yarrow]

True

[formal swift]

Cause I refuse to play Idle skilling

[signal osprey]

Gonna write midgamer on my tombstone when I die

[formal swift]

Will never be optimal

[opal raptor]

i think I shouldn't be doing world 5 stuff until I finish things in other eorlds

Worlds

[formal swift]

That is a great idea go back and focus on those things

[ruby yarrow]

Except gaming and sailing

[formal swift]

Gaming and sailing is all time based so you don’t have to do anything to get progress

[ruby yarrow]

Exactly

[opal raptor]

Yeah I do that in the background but I've been like pushing through world 5 when instead I should be focusing on the things I left behind

[solid lantern]

Div is also time based kinda

[formal swift]

Atleast you are aware of that I constantly recommend people to go back and work on things they’ve rushed passed

[solid lantern]

one-for-all/tranquil and or lab

[pearl cedar]

Whole game is time based kinda

[opal raptor]

You think you could've review my idleon efficiency thing?

[signal osprey]

Thats why I farm so much candy

[ruby yarrow]

When do you think w8 will come out?

[signal osprey]

On your birthday

[opal raptor]

2025

[formal swift]

If I’m being honest I hate doing that I barely look at my own so I don’t wanna look at someone else’s but I can give it a quick look

[opal raptor]

Alright

https://thssuccssor.idleonefficiency.com

[solid lantern]

probably 2025 unironically

to soon and lava kills the cash cow

[signal osprey]

Well that and he still has to actually make 3 whole worlds lol

[ruby yarrow]

#best-suggestions-✅ message I hope lava will do this

[solid lantern]

don't care, got doot

[ruby yarrow]

I care

[formal swift]

Before I go brutal mode where are you in the game W4? Just got to w5

[opal raptor]

Like

What do you mean

[signal osprey]

Always go brutal mode

[opal raptor]

like am I In w4 or 5?

[solid lantern]

what is your progress basically

where are you at in game

[formal swift]

Yeah

[signal osprey]

When an IE is posted you give the owner a lesson they never forget

[opal raptor]

I'm like in w5 just trying to open all the portals

[formal swift]

I’m assuming you’ve made it to made it w5 okay

[opal raptor]

If that's what I understand

[formal swift]

Let me get on my laptop cause IE pain to look at on mobile

But them worship skulls look sad

[ruby yarrow]

Why is everyone so rich and I only have 1 void coin

[signal osprey]

You don't kill enough gmush

[ruby yarrow]

I don’t even got this lab thing

[signal osprey]

Well there you go

Thats your problem

[ruby yarrow]

It’s the only reason??

[opal raptor]

I'm trying to find a few things to focus on so

[solid lantern]

yes

[ruby yarrow]

Also I’m waiting for 🐐

[signal osprey]

No there are a lot of contributors to money but gmush is by far the biggest reason

[solid lantern]

quite literally lab for gmush, and w4 arena for early coin farming

[ruby yarrow]

To get my lab levels

And divinity

Should I only use my black pearls on lab?

[solid lantern]

if you cant farm crystal mobs for coins, w4 arena is your best bet for coins early on

though not to much since arena tickets are rare/harder to get

[pearl cedar]

The lesson

[signal osprey]

That pic never gets old

[ruby yarrow]

It doesn’t even give me 30 dementia coins and it gobbles up all my tickets

[signal osprey]

I laugh every time that shit gets posted

[opal raptor]

He's typing

this is gonna be bad

[solid lantern]

https://soldemyfornx.idleonefficiency.com

High key anything obvious I'm missing?

[rich epoch]

alchemy

[solid lantern]

I know alchemy is a bit low/working on it soon/active bubo, same thing goes for print samples too

[formal swift]

max your forge upgrades, get anvil points on everyone, work on stamp lvls will help with rift bonus, looks like your working on trapping and worship lvls which is good, I would keep red salt not on auto refine, but your salt levels look ok balanced rn, I always recomend resampling if you haven't recently, cause thatll help with alchemy bubbles.

[solid lantern]

[formal swift]

imma keep going i'm going thru everything i see

[opal raptor]

Okay

[solid lantern]

ah woops, forgot to do anvil points too 😂

[clear quartz]

oh yeah i should go back and look at forge stuff

[ruby yarrow]

https://isaacpanic.idleonefficiency.com/ 😉

[pearl cedar]

Stamps

[obtuse rover]

Oh no, the normal map mobs have started spawning in my TD again

[rich epoch]

alchemy

[signal osprey]

Thats just a fun feature with equinox

[rich epoch]

alchemy

[ruby yarrow]

I hate this

[clear quartz]

i noticed that happened on cans but havent seen it on any other yet

[rich epoch]

🤭

[solid lantern]

Not wrong though

[formal swift]

seems like you can work on Bloodzerker zow/chows too which should help your ladles and cooking alot, i can't see which pets you have unlocked but unlock the nutto and up to sneeble and you can do all spice battles and 200 arena pretty easily

[signal osprey]

It makes TD so much longer that you get respawns now

[rich epoch]

lmfao

[obtuse rover]

I had it pre-equinox once upon a time when I was doing Frosty 121 with very weak towers.

But yeah, right now I'm on cans

[pearl cedar]

And now you can use whale talent and push your breeding

While playing TD

[solid lantern]

btw what's this super chow im hearing?

[clear quartz]

vman thing

[fathom lagoon]

Lets goooo bout to beat the third snake

[opal raptor]

What about mt alchemy is it alright?

[rich epoch]

stonkissimo. that was lava ploy all along

[opal raptor]

My

[fathom lagoon]

Equinox

[clear quartz]

100mil kills gives stuff for bb

[ruby yarrow]

Alchemy < everything else

[rich epoch]

it is weak

[solid lantern]

oh is that just the bb cooking one?

zow?

[formal swift]

no ones alchemy is alright can always be higher

pick a bubble sample that material and upgrade it

[ruby yarrow]

Like everything in the game

[formal swift]

and use bubo and unlock more bubbles

[solid lantern]

oooooh

[rich epoch]

no the maxed upgrades can't be higher giggles

[glad cedar]

If you have to ask, it's not good enough

[fathom lagoon]

Zow = 100k, dmg related
Chow = 1m cooking eff related
Super chow = 100mcooking speed related

[solid lantern]

fuckkkkk

I really need to start reading shit

[warm parcel]

How do I see my total sample size, and know whether I need royal sampler or not? About how many stamp levels would one need to take off royal sampler for good?

[solid lantern]

😂

[pearl cedar]

Cant wait for next tier of chow

[ruby yarrow]

Well, like every skills in the game

[rich epoch]

alchemy

[fathom lagoon]

Items > player skills > construction

[opal raptor]

@formal swift I appreciate the help

[solid lantern]

ah wait nvm

I been reading and already done that

nvm 😂

[formal swift]

continuing the review your TD waves can be higher but probably need more construction buildrate cause your towers are also kinda low level

[fathom lagoon]

Giga chow

[clear quartz]

giga chongus 1b kills and gives you a swift kick to the nads (and maybe like a meal effect multi or something silly)

[rich epoch]

giga chowd

[signal osprey]

I hope he skips 1b and goes to 10 for whatever the new chow is

[opal raptor]

Yeah been focusing on that

[ruby yarrow]

My idleon account > other accounts

[rich epoch]

oh

[warm parcel]

Deathbringer’s will be, like, wow, or something…

[rich epoch]

how silly 🤭

you're not even up to mine and mine is utter shit

[clear quartz]

apogcalypse wow

[signal osprey]

I'm not up to yours either

[warm parcel]

Or maybe POW

[ruby yarrow]

At least I’m having fun

[clear quartz]

very kill, much boost. wow

[signal osprey]

You have better equinox vials than me

[formal swift]

but since w5 is an rng fest not gonna review that stuff

[rich epoch]

yeah I'm ahead of contracts I have better equinox vials I win

just don't ever compare anything else

[formal swift]

i would recomend getting the artifact that makes artifact chance higher ancient tho first

this one

[vapid cove]

pls no haha need to catch up a bit not that it matters just rack up more kills

[rich epoch]

an yes, that bubo printing 30 gmush is very important for my setup

[ruby yarrow]

The chances are <1% for me

To get ancient tusk

[formal swift]

welcome to sailing

its not gonna get better

[ruby yarrow]

Or the other one

[formal swift]

so might aswell just pray and do it

[ruby yarrow]

I’m not hyped for eldritch

[placid tusk]

Bubbles unlocked above the last one will be unlocked on w6 release, right?

[formal swift]

and you can upgrade ships with resources

[solid lantern]

yes

[ruby yarrow]

I prayed for weeks

Maybe 2

[solid lantern]

although you can unlock them already, just no benifit from them

[formal swift]

thats nothing people have taken 3+ months for artifacts

[clear quartz]

i guess maybe its time i go back to ES, do some kruk farming and then uhhh.... whatever else it was i wanted to do with active ES. know there was something

[formal swift]

and 6 months for chemical plant

[rich epoch]

I've got all w6 bubbles unlocked so I can start neglecting them asap

[clear quartz]

not recipe though, still madge at my luck for suggmas

[ruby yarrow]

But they’re way better

[formal swift]

you can try and get artifact chance captains those help

[solid lantern]

Ive been doing sailing since d1 and uhhh, no where near elderich artifacts for all

🙃

[rich epoch]

there is some skill on it like picking captains and setting routes but... it is mostly luck

[pearl cedar]

10b chow 100b DN.

[solid lantern]

well, elderish mostly done for the first half of islands. its the later half where I havnt got ancient/elderich

[formal swift]

invest in captains like this loot value and speed slightly overrated

but captains are also rng so i understand the pain

[solid lantern]

[ruby yarrow]

So you’re telling me the only ways to get artifact chances are 1: artifacts and 2: captains?

[rich epoch]

that is why the best strategy is to not even have the SB talent on and get as much chest as possible

[cerulean hemlock]

mhm

[formal swift]

I've gotten all eldritchs using only SB talent

because i can't check more than 2 times a day 5 days of the week

[pearl cedar]

I think at this point though I would just only push DN with BB for future proofing

[cerulean hemlock]

unless SB if % for wood to stone chest is higher than two % wood chances

[formal swift]

but if you can check every 2 hours don't use talent

[cerulean hemlock]

Divine Night?

[rich epoch]

I was using it but I've been more active so I swapped

[rich epoch]

how do I check that?

[solid lantern]

isnt SB worth it if you have high % chance for afk claim to proc?

[cerulean hemlock]

I mean uhh... just record the %tages? 🥺

[solid lantern]

since multi hour of sailing

[clear quartz]

vman getting at all deep into w4 probably unlikely for sake of mobsample grabs yeah? or should i git gudder to get there?

[rich epoch]

oh no. I can't do math thanks

[formal swift]

well idk i hope i helped that one guy with my budget IE review but the basic summary if hes still here is work on everything

[solid lantern]

depends, you have to sacrafice a run to just focus on it, I managed to get to choccie on my run. Sample was about 1m-500k for mob drops though. Was really nice

[rich epoch]

(jk I'll keep that in mind and do it sometime)

[cerulean hemlock]

budget as in no autloot?

[ruby yarrow]

When will my levels jump high?

[formal swift]

why can't you ever read

[cerulean hemlock]

it's easy, no need for es

[formal swift]

and respond to me when i'm not talking to you

[clear quartz]

like just do w1 and w2 and then blitz through w4?

[cerulean hemlock]

i'm me.

[rich epoch]

when you learn to giggle you get some xp

[solid lantern]

I did w1/2 normal. did the aoe on w4 and would kill later mobs in w3. Since yeah you run into the issue of mobs not respawning when you change maps etc

[rich epoch]

muda muda

[ruby yarrow]

That’s not even true! >:(

[rich epoch]

live

[rich epoch]

test it

[ruby yarrow]

No

[rich epoch]

🤭

[ruby yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/muda-theworld-jojosbizarreadventure-無駄-gif-5455737

[obtuse rover]

Oh my god, my cans suddenly split up in my TD on 170
I swear to god if I lose in the final hour because of this

[rich epoch]

each giggle reaction on discord gets you a stacking dr and xp multi lava faxed me that

[signal osprey]

Splitting is a fun feature of post equinox TD too

[ruby yarrow]

When

[signal osprey]

Just gotta kick as many from the front group into the back group as you can until they merge again

[rich epoch]

on the 21th night of September

[ruby yarrow]

Any proof?

[rich epoch]

send me your fax number and I'll fax it to you too

[ruby yarrow]

No

[rich epoch]

or I may fax you a giggle emoji. 50/50

[signal osprey]

Just fax both

[rich epoch]

sorry I can't it is fax only it has a special anti-everything technology

[rich epoch]

now this is pure genius

[ruby yarrow]

No more fax

[obtuse rover]

I LOST

Unbelievable.

[ruby yarrow]

😭

[signal osprey]

[obtuse rover]

Man, TD is janky af

[ruby yarrow]

I Heard super monkey is good

[signal osprey]

Yes. The only TD I didn't have to redo at least once due to nonsense beyond my control was glublin 200

[placid tusk]

How much monkey knowledge do you have

Might make it easier

[obtuse rover]

I appreciate knowing that you, too, suffer.

[clear quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-vs-kaido-luffy-v-kaido-luffy-gear-5-gif-13608717213260322025

super monke?

[signal osprey]

I add beyond my control because I did redo glublin because I accidentally hit forfeit when trying to upgrade a tower

[ruby yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-10107475

[signal osprey]

On 190

[obtuse rover]

I've done that before, but not at 190.
My condolences.

[rich epoch]

just go for true sun god guys

[signal osprey]

That tower doesn't get added to con until W6

[ruby yarrow]

It cost a lot of monke money

[rich epoch]

I see what you did there

[obtuse rover]

Pancake's guide for Waka TD makes me want to never attempt it.

[clear quartz]

wakanda war 4evr

[ruby yarrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438216759120756737/1145793113995083806/GuardA.gif?ex=6552707e&is=653ffb7e&hm=d5d4929a4da45f3390b2b5f2287d4485971ec1adc06063cb7889a9f570272f0e&

[signal osprey]

Waka is just an awful TD

[ruby yarrow]

He will give you the quests to get you super monkey

Trust

[rich epoch]

TD is just and awful TD

[formal swift]

TD crashing is just awful

[ruby yarrow]

True

[signal osprey]

And the only reason we need to even jump through those hoops in pancakes guide is because for some reason kraken just don't work properly when mobs go from left to right rather than right to left

[rich epoch]

and I say that as someone whose one of the favourite kind of games is TD. even bad and hanky ones

[ruby yarrow]

Me when my TD crash:

https://tenor.com/view/sam-hyde-content-aware-scale-gif-4302029360968030864

[signal osprey]

And Waka is entirely left to right

[formal swift]

ah is that the issue

[obtuse rover]

That was me last night, yeah.
Sort of upset to see my facecam getting leaked like that.

[rich epoch]

oh so that was why I got fucked like that suddenly

[ruby yarrow]

[obtuse rover]

Well, that plus the atrocious lack of space to put DPS towers that reach anywhere

[rich epoch]

good to know ty

[formal swift]

poison reaches from the top but i guess it could cover more area

[ruby yarrow]

But, I had this GIF for months…

[obtuse rover]

The poison at the top basically just tickles a square inch of the floor, yeah.

[formal swift]

we just need lvl 90 kraken like pancake

ez

[signal osprey]

And that square inch is unfortunately mandatory if you ever want to dps mobs past 170

Such a sad TD map

[formal swift]

screw the moon guys too

they just piss me off for some reason

probably from the w2 days when they wouldn't drop ghosts

[obtuse rover]

Ideally we get another DPS buff to TD that's SO ludicrous that we can use kraken towers as our DPS

[ruby yarrow]

What’s your favorite game guys?

[rich epoch]

the dream

[signal osprey]

Depending on your perspective we did get that buff

[rich epoch]

make kraken hit aoe

[formal swift]

depends on my mood but like fire emblem/monster hunter are my favorite game series

[obtuse rover]

Very true, very true

[signal osprey]

All the old max waves can be done with krakens only now

And likewise if we get a giga buff it will enable new maxes that will require poison based comps

[formal swift]

Terraria is also a game very close to my heart

[rich epoch]

since I have very bad starting worship points I do the first waves only with krakens

[ruby yarrow]

Same

[signal osprey]

Although iirc TD caps at 300 so in theory i guess the buff could be big enough to use kraken dps up to 300 lol

[formal swift]

but I feel like i have a pretty diverse taste in games so I'm a fan of alot

[rich epoch]

amen

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, you're right.

So we need a buff that specifically makes kraken optimal.

Or maybe we get a new "omni-tower" that will simultaneously do the actions of every single tower, based on their respective construction levels.

[ruby yarrow]

TBOI is also one of my favorite games

[formal swift]

like really big into the DmC series, played a lot of jrpgs/rpgs, gotta love those Bethesda open world games even if theyre a little overated

[signal osprey]

Omni tower

[formal swift]

and like most nintendo franchises I enjoy minus pokemon i feel thats fallen off in the last decade

[rich epoch]

tower companion that push max waves by itself

[formal swift]

still waiting for metroid prime 4

[clear quartz]

muda tower

[ruby yarrow]

[rich epoch]

monkey tower companion

[formal swift]

Muda Muda Muda ????

is that a jojo reference

[rich epoch]

being alive is a JoJo reference so, yes

[clear quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-reference-cat-resisting-urge-jojos-bizarre-adventure-gif-24722300

[signal osprey]

[formal swift]

my favorite JoJo refernce in idle on is the sneeble pet ability

[ruby yarrow]

What isn’t a jojo reference, that’s the question

[formal swift]

when i unlocked it i literally lost my shit

[rich epoch]

hating giggles is not a JoJo reference

[signal osprey]

WhereMonke needs to be a W6 npc

[rich epoch]

have you literally found it too or is it still lost?

[clear quartz]

i think a neat tower would be a time slow or something, but unsure if thats the right idea since its already kinda a thing for frozone and TD takes too long already, but getting backed up from waves spawning before the growth can kick in is a feels bad. or something, i dont even know

[ruby yarrow]

your two words in your username starts with Ju for JuJu, is it a JoJo reference???

[formal swift]

nah when i was in middle school some dude called me juice

[rich epoch]

speed up tower

[ruby yarrow]

🤨

Why?

[formal swift]

i honestly have no idea

[signal osprey]

Because juice

[ruby yarrow]

What’s up juice!

[rich epoch]

just make TD go faster

[formal swift]

my name is Justin ( don't dox) so maybe that was close to juice

[obtuse rover]

If people make a way for TD to be over with faster, I'm game.

[rich epoch]

don't dox is a really unique last name you shouldn't tell us that

[signal osprey]

Alt f4 will end TD faster

[obtuse rover]

You can't even spend that time in TD safely cog-clicking for fear of white-screening.

[rich epoch]

so does jumping off a cliff but here we are

[ruby yarrow]

True

My last name is panic

[rich epoch]

your last name is giggles

[formal swift]

the best way to do TD is to not do TD once you get the dream done

[signal osprey]

We can chem click in TD though

[obtuse rover]

Have you been known to frequent discos?

[obtuse rover]

I don't wannnna

[signal osprey]

Same

[rich epoch]

giggles at the disco is Isaacs favorite band

[ruby yarrow]

I dont have panic attacks

[formal swift]

i prefer picnics at the disco

[rich epoch]

anyway I'll go do something. just nobody giggle at Isaac please

[ruby yarrow]

Stop spreading misinformation

[formal swift]

MCR > all 2000s rock bands

no offense

eh or the strokes

and i used to be really into that genre

alot of those 2000s rock/emo/punk bands have like 1/2 good albums

[clear quartz]

juiceph juicestar

[ruby yarrow]

Game Over.

[formal swift]

there you go

now i'm always a JoJo reference

not changing the pic

just to meme

[ruby yarrow]

Who are you?

What have you done to Juicey Juice?

[formal swift]

rest in pieces Juice

he died trying to fight Dio

[ruby yarrow]

Is that a jojo reference?

[formal swift]

wait its Jostar pretty sure

nah thats my deslexia its right

[ruby yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jjba-josuke-drink-unsee-juice-unsee-gif-21666717

[clear quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/giorno-giovanna-tea-piss-gif-14148345

[formal swift]

I'll change it back once w6 comes out

[ruby yarrow]

Why not w8

[formal swift]

or maybe ill make it a part 6 character

Steel Ball Run best Jojo

[ruby yarrow]

🏇

Big ball

[formal swift]

the references are on point and its basically like those crappy death races across the country but 1000% better

I love the scooby doo death race cross over tho

with batman if you know you know

[ruby yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/scoobydoo-shaggy-run-gif-7278809

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-sailing-zoom-gif-27521115

[obtuse rover]

It's like watching a break in billiards

[prisma moss]

why is the rate for this artifact so low? before i got the 1st from the ice island it was 4-5% and now its <.5%

[austere path]

Someone know what tot mean?

[clear quartz]

arcade ball run

[prisma moss]

total

[clear quartz]

🐴

[austere path]

Tot is total or what?

[formal swift]

totalitarian

[clear quartz]

the best jojo that is the best sit user (since he cannot stand)

[modern plaza]

is it me or will w6 actually require boosted stats, would be sick if the final part of w6 required like 10T dmg minimum or something

[formal swift]

flombs had 35m HP Wurms have 1.5 B hp so i expect atleast 1T HP if not more

[modern plaza]

the equinox exploded my damage and the eclipse really stacks up on so many levels

[clear quartz]

i think another hit% type stat will have to be adde or otherwise things will have to be rescaled or just have some insane numbers

[ruby yarrow]

Maybe my account is a late bloomer?

[formal swift]

Solar damage when

[modern plaza]

u think like how MS did it at around lvl 210?

interesting yet appealing idea

[ruby yarrow]

There should be a buff that reduces the max HP of ennemies

[clear quartz]

i was thinking something like a new version of accuracy, call it prescience or something

[obtuse rover]

We already have mechanics for overflow of accuracy.
We could get more, though

[modern plaza]

yes, have you ever played maplestory?

[clear quartz]

i think id mentioned before itd be something that could use a prestige of some sort to raise, unsure if lava has any desire to add prestige system to the game, but yeah

[modern plaza]

basically the game creates a new accuracy/defence stat at the lategame. its like an "orb" power that you can stack over time which gives you better survivability to the end content

[formal swift]

either just make it high as portals so you need multikill to progress fast or just give mobs high hp i'm sure you'll be able to do all skills from town anyways

[fathom lagoon]

Sounds dope

[formal swift]

the last thing i want is some new dumb mechanic just to make it artifically hard

and make everything we've done not matter

that will probably upset more people than make people happy

[clear quartz]

i think a soft reset wouldnt be horrendous, but yeah would entirely depend how it was impleented for sure

[ruby yarrow]

A completely new type of damage when entering w6, you start at 1

[pure ember]

Like giving the monsters defense

[formal swift]

also we won't get another world for another year so yeah it can take some time for the players who aren't ready i feel

[pure ember]

Or 2nd hp bars

[formal swift]

there won't be a boss so just let the players who a prepared get there greenstacks from all the mobs and be done with it

[clear quartz]

temporarily reset all portals and skills and lvls etc, or alch or whatever, and have to push back to w6 or whatever world, then everything comes back, plus some sort of point buy to raise the new accuracy analog

[formal swift]

and i hope the skills affect more previous skills like how sailing does for bigger gains

[obtuse rover]

If alch was ever reset I would be in shambles

[formal swift]

and pray there isn't another divinity/lab clone but probably will be there

just to shill another doot tier pet

[solemn spire]

aighht for mid game, is it better to have 2 DK for construction and 2 mining printers or 2 BB for more cooking + 2 fishing printers?

[clear quartz]

R O O M

[modern plaza]

alch prestiging lol

[pure ember]

2 dk..... unless you have doot

[solemn spire]

ty

[formal swift]

i got 100k ladles with 1 BB so i don't ever see the use for 2 BBs

unless you wanna green stack ladles

[solemn spire]

i dont' think thats mid game schenanigand

[formal swift]

just do two DKs

[obtuse rover]

Mid game is a very broad range of accounts

[formal swift]

construction is way more time gated

[modern plaza]

and i already got 2770 con building lvls so really not much of a point to have 2 dks either

[solemn spire]

i realized that when i typed it 😄

[formal swift]

mid game is not end game and we will never be endgamers so yes

[solemn spire]

sub 200 stat bubbles enough mid game?

[pseudo blaze]

still early game

[clear quartz]

basically id see alch prestige as being something like what ice creams did for IS, but i know that expansion wasnt the most popular, i just think that was one of the more interesting ideas that didnt really get implemented the best

[pseudo blaze]

pump those numbers up rookie

(i barely have 100)

[obtuse rover]

I personally don't think prestige is a great fit for Idleon, specifically.

[merry coral]

https://smaddie24.idleonefficiency.com
What should be my main focus? Cuz I assume everyone in lab ain't it

[obtuse rover]

But that might just be my personal cope that I don't want it.

[clear quartz]

fair

[pseudo blaze]

its too far in the game for prestige

[solemn spire]

kill your bosses

[pseudo blaze]

• it would suck

[formal swift]

gaming prestige when i wanna grind lvl 20 snail and 25 seashell and 1M nugget again

[worn sonnet]

Man reminds me of GW2 torment defence

[obtuse rover]

1M nugget ain't getting you to the end of superbits. Try adding 2 or 3 digits

[pseudo blaze]

you’re right get everyone in divinity

[cursive forge]

Sadge

probably cant get this before it resets

[formal swift]

I'd gaming prestiage if it gave another currency that could be spent more more bit multi and other stuff like cookie clicker

[clear quartz]

unsure of the math involved, but if it was just some sort of -multiplier that went away after you reached whatever challenge setting there was that isnt too horrendous

[formal swift]

but thats the only skill I'd accept a prestige system in

cause its need something that is less rng involved

[pseudo blaze]

gaming just becomes cookie clicker in idleon

[formal swift]

exactly so it should get a presitge system

and i'm entirely convinced thats what the last tab will be

[clear quartz]

tbh i just love challenge type runs a lot, like idle wizard kinda stopped being fun after those, and uhhh.... some particle game had them that i really enjoyed. NGU of course, and WAMI. i forget if anti idles were any good, but yeah

[formal swift]

tho I'm grasping at straws

[cursive forge]

Imagine its UI customization

[clear quartz]

RG i think had sorta fun challenges or weird goals for certain weird setups

[solemn spire]

Do stamp quests
Get Vman
Start working on your ES and mage bubbles for farming mats
Work on skilling bubbles and prints for them

I saw big gains from focusing on ES to farm materials for alchemy and now i'm gaining lots from getting the double resource bubbles and tool efficiency bubbles

[solemn spire]

stop printing mob materials and start working on printing skilling materials for alchemy

[dense prism]

6h not bad :D didnt even reech 20mil kills

[clear quartz]

https://ryanstark1989.idleonefficiency.com/ im just workin on skilling bubbles and hoping i get lucky and can get the kruk stuff

[merry coral]

I'm just printing the refinery mats

[clear quartz]

im jelly, i think i got to an absurd number of active kills on ES and still dont have it

[solemn spire]

if i run out i just go do 1hr of active es and get a weeks worth of materials. Vman can also print like 10-20k ref mats/hr really easily

Active ES is so good for refinery and materials in general

[clear quartz]

just missing one plant and then i can give up on these for the next forever until t7 become actually doable lol

[vapid cove]

wooow that is pretty ridic to think of

they kinda screwed you on the pendant drop

[clear quartz]

thats my active kills on ES, with ~20x drop the whole time

[vapid cove]

😦

I'm at like 10.4 dr i still need that recipie

im gonna wait a bit though

im gonna just farm the 1 billi vials first

the most i can

[zinc torrent]

i just got the fifth god and did a 5% roll on the next one and it hit first try lmao

[clear quartz]

STRUNG TOOTH

:gasm:

[vapid cove]

nice

i think i hit the 1% on goat

the badger though oof its a lot of worship

[clear quartz]

it is

[vapid cove]

im just doing the 50% chance on it or however much it is

[zinc torrent]

did you guys just use focus the whole time as a stance?

[vapid cove]

because 130 mil is nuts

[clear quartz]

i used whatever the second to last one is

[zinc torrent]

well i mean when u were lower lvl

[vapid cove]

ye thats at level 60 though

[zinc torrent]

i just got w5 i quit for a long time

[vapid cove]

ah

[zinc torrent]

how long has it even been out?

[vapid cove]

like 6 months maybe if not a bit more

[zinc torrent]

i quit once w3 came out cause i did everything

[zealous niche]

Unlocking deities is higher priority than leveling div, so yeah, focus is a good one iirc

[zinc torrent]

ok ty

the gods help a lot with catching w4 up tho

[vapid cove]

for the majority of the time ur only gonna be using 2 of your characters

[zinc torrent]

yea that's what i'm doing rn

[vapid cove]

the rest get them up to goat and do lab/ divinity at the same time

[zinc torrent]

i just have everyone on goharut cause i need lab exp badly too

[vapid cove]

its pretty neat

[zealous niche]

Once you have all deities unlocked, either you swap to tranqi (exp all the time) or put everybody on altar and on mantra (fastest exp possible early but takes everybody to do it fastest)

[zinc torrent]

it's honestly nice cause having 10 characters to manage was a lot

[clear quartz]

slowly getting up there, but MOAR is needed

[zinc torrent]

i wish i had doot

[vapid cove]

dont get me wrong once in a while just swap it and catch up with that character

I usually spent like 2-3 weeks on lab / goat with a majority of my characters

now i only do a few because i hit the level 40 vatalic and it just gives me divinity xp even not being on it

i am also missing doot

but not needed

just makes stuff way easier

[zinc torrent]

yea it would just make it so much easier

there's no way to get a third char preset right?

[vapid cove]

that i know of no

at least not now

until lava gives it to us

[zinc torrent]

i mean hoenstly now that i'm leveling so much

2 is probably enough

[zealous niche]

Combat and skilling

[zinc torrent]

yea

do u think it's worth ever having my barb afk on cooking?

[vapid cove]

eventually you'll be op like some people that can max all and do 1 preset

well yeah

you're gonna need 100k ladles later

for equinox

[zinc torrent]

oh

[vapid cove]

you have to use them all at once

which sucks but its something

just like statues

stop depositing them

[zinc torrent]

i'm still stuck on like the first 4 equinox

[vapid cove]

and make stacks of 20k

[zinc torrent]

yea i haven't deposited any statues

[vapid cove]

yeah i see that equinox on me and I neglected cooking

and now i have to collect 100k ladles

[zinc torrent]

that sounds like it will take forever

[vapid cove]

i threw like 4 guys on cooking

[zinc torrent]

can u even candy it?

[vapid cove]

dont think so

[zinc torrent]

dam

[vapid cove]

i did use baloons to get like 30 at least

[zinc torrent]

yea i'm gonna use those black pearls from the event

balloons to like 20

then pearls

[vapid cove]

its fine though dont really need them im doing bubo active for a long while

[clear quartz]

i should bubo more

[worn sonnet]

Finally got that 15th chem

[vapid cove]

i still havee like 1k baloons

[worn sonnet]

Hell yeah

[zinc torrent]

i'm just like hard capped on green salt rn i quit early in w3

[vapid cove]

o nice

ah

im capped in every salt pretty much i kept collecting and never let the refinery upgrade

[clear quartz]

i should use my balloons at some point

[vapid cove]

not needed if you're skills are high

[zealous niche]

You can finally hold to use a tonne in a row

[clear quartz]

doubt i have enough to get everyone to 50 cooking, but maybe can do 1-2 dudes, maybe hehe

[vapid cove]

oooo

ur cooking is borked too?

that sucks

[clear quartz]

borked how?

[vapid cove]

you dont have em 50 lol?

and you're so much more ahead of me

[clear quartz]

i dont have doot so thats probably the biggest hindrance i have to getting it right now

[vapid cove]

welcome to the club lol

[clear quartz]

not that it would guarantee it, but free pearls would be a big help

[vapid cove]

defo

i just left 4 of my guys at cooking while having the god that lets them be in lab at the same time

without xp

let em cook

literally

[zinc torrent]

i just have so much to do idk what to even prioritize

[clear quartz]

for the most part ive ignored it on most of my chars

[snow light]

so best sampling set up is snake god on main sampler and goat on the others or is there a better god set up?

[clear quartz]

for sake of preserving mental i do snake on like 2-3 at a time and yeah, goat on rest. but in theory yes, for max god effect snake on one and goat on rest is best

[zinc torrent]

@clear quartz is that idleonefficiency?

[clear quartz]

toolbox

[zinc torrent]

could u send me the link

[vapid cove]

i completely ignored cooking tbh

[solid lantern]

get the 30% afk rate for the sampler, and yeah unless you have doot, you have to sample different chars different weeks

[vapid cove]

mine are worse than yours

[proud pumice]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[zinc torrent]

ty

[snow light]

thank you i wanted to make sure turns out i was sampling not as well as i should have did not have snake on for samplers

[solid lantern]

also make sure you're fully connected to lab

or at least what you need etc

[snow light]

yeah i try to connect i cant connect like everyone can with the 4-5 characters and light everything up

[solid lantern]

Absolute worst case is you do all your samplers with snake/30% afk rate and put all your toons in the lab

and you have to shuffle them around each time

but you can do the sample all at once

[clear quartz]

i should do my sampling in a couple days to make use of my god resets, but im still working this curse afk logging bubble

[vapid cove]

mostly just up to the multikill/ portal one but if you can light up the entire lab with 4-6 guys thats good

[snow light]

sadly i have 8 characters in lab and i cant light up all of lab that i have so far

[vapid cove]

thats fine

you dont need to have them all fighting anyways

at least until doot

or rotate them to keep them current

[clear quartz]

think thats like 2 days of all my atoms, but still ouchies

[vapid cove]

yeah eventually im gonna do that

[snow light]

yeah i know skilling is 80% of game and i am not lucky enough to get doot currently deciding to take a break from skill mastery to get my SB (really only to get as close to that 1mil plunderous kill so i can get that DR i know it is gonna take a long time) and my Vman

[clear quartz]

this one i may skip on since thats just gonna be brutal... for now

[vapid cove]

i mean

youre doing atoms so it shouldnt be too bad depending if you can do 50 a day

i cant even do atoms yet lol

but i have it unlocled

[snow light]

i can "do" atoms it is not optimal for me to do atoms yet i have the first 3 atoms all at level 1 but that is about it

[clear quartz]

i havent had too much difficulty with getting my 50 a day for the afk gain one, but thats 3.5k per atom and this is almost double that so i have a feeling i may have to either get lucky on my printer go brr or otherwise split up my daily atoms on other stuff

or git gudder samples i guess

[worn sonnet]

That's what happens when you're finally able to use those chems

[vapid cove]

hmmm

well the bubo always prints slightly higher than ES

and the same for mining DK is better than bear

[snow light]

my best samples rn but i am trying to max stack them for even more efficiency currently

[clear quartz]

my ES is better than my bubo but probably mainly comes down to skill book reasons/tools and such

[vapid cove]

that is weird lol

[clear quartz]

think this weekly rotation ill use my beefmaster at the bottom to get some w4 mob samples and set vman up on refinery duty, and then sample with my ES and hop i can hit 1bil

[zealous niche]

What is this tool? Is it calculating level to 90% effect for you?

[clear quartz]

idleon toolbox, very very useful

[snow light]

honestly i understand that much there is so much i need to catch up on and i feel so far behind i wanna greenstack mob drops before W6 drops and i wanna start the spore massacre so that i can start farming money more effiecently

[zealous niche]

Is it doing the 90% thing?

[clear quartz]

yeah i need to work on gmush pretty badly

nah i manually increase the target lvl until the bottom left gives me the 90%

so yes and no, i suppose

[ocean fox]

recommended kph before eclipsing?

[clear quartz]

i think in assorted w1 mobs im around 8m kph with my SB, and i candied several. could be patient and wait for higher but eh. i also havent finished all of w1 eclipses but have a few

[ocean fox]

Ah shoot my kph is hella low comparison

[snow light]

yeah that is how far out i am i dont even know what eclipsing is

[ocean fox]

Whats your damage for 8m kph?

Eclipsing is getting a billion kills on mobs

[ocean fox]

For the eclipse skull

[snow light]

oh that 1T kill

[true obsidian]

where i can find this board?

[barren otter]

i started doing eclipse when my gmush kph was 11m

[barren otter]

but i def started it late

[barren otter]

thats toolbox

[clear quartz]

i could optimize a bit better, i should craft kruk weaps for all my dudes

and stick the trophy/scarf on him now that i have 1