lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[pearl pebble]

if i time candy in the kikng doot map will i get kills XD

ok i will not do that then, ty

[bold quiver]

who is the god with 26DR? o.o

[pearl pebble]

whenever i boost my total% dmg, i lose dmg

[vapid cove]

first and last card chips in lab?

maybe that boosts you or drops depending on the order

[tall horizon]

Probably requires the last 5 levels of Faux jewels

[paper sail]

are you spending Atoms to do so? You get %dmg from the amount of atoms you have stashed from a sailing artifact.

[tall horizon]

stupid pickle

[pearl pebble]

i dont have atoms unlocked

[signal osprey]

All my homies hate bobjoepickle

Fuck that guy

[tall horizon]

76 more days

[signal osprey]

At least when W6 comes out I can drop all my stopwatches and skip the last few weeks of the grind

[strong nova]

later w6 can plant bobjoe

[signal osprey]

Assuming W6 doesn't come super late and I finish the pickle grind first

[strong nova]

migh be faster do 500 all chara..

[signal osprey]

Its definitely faster to do that

Only reason I'm not done with 500 all characters by now is because the reward doesn't justify the effort

[paper sail]

I might not have 26DR, but at least I have 19k GT

[signal osprey]

So I'm waiting for either holy pearls or W6 exp

[pearl pebble]

im on blood berserker, not sure if that means anything. i upgrade total dmg from alch or stamps and it lowers my dmg

[tall horizon]

i'd be shocked if they work on w6 stuff 🤷

[signal osprey]

They might not work on any new mechanics but there's no reason they won't work on existing ones that get updated in W6

[tall horizon]

true

[signal osprey]

Spam stamp discounts on new stamps and atoms on new bubbles

Nblb everything to atom range day 1

Roll all your vials

[fading plover]

They'll probably work on the shop at least

[tall horizon]

w6 speed run

[signal osprey]

Well yeah its gonna happen one way or another

[pearl pebble]

any idea how to beat the captain move it move it quest

[signal osprey]

My SB is hitting the last map in one day whether lava likes it or not

[tall horizon]

Ya, its just the first time something like golden watches existed on a launch, so its very interesting to think about

We can speedrun so much better with those lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah and honestly even without them getting bubbles done at least would still be trivial

[tall horizon]

Even when w3 let use use candies, it isnt the same. lol

[signal osprey]

Our prints are absurd now

Lava can never make alchemy difficult again after he added the 1b cap

Even if he nerfs watches alch will always be done day 1 of a new world

[ruby yarrow]

Can I get your IE rashaken

[tall horizon]

https://rashaken.idleonefficiency.com/

[ruby yarrow]

Thanks

[obtuse rover]

Frosty TD just froze on 170 for me

[signal osprey]

I had that happen twice on that TD. Frosty and cans are cursed

[tall horizon]

Ya and with doot (sorry) we can force trigger printer procs to be done so fast

[signal osprey]

No worries I get doot in 12 hours

[paper sail]

I just got my free Doot Bored Bean

[signal osprey]

[obtuse rover]

Man, TD feels so bad lol

[paper sail]

At least it was fast

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-pet-dard-companion-doot-gif-1354666548214359714

[ruby yarrow]

You’re good at Idleon, rashaken

[paper sail]

Watching 18 pets scroll by only to fail before Doot takes ages

[signal osprey]

So glad I'm done

[tall horizon]

I've just played a long time and accumulated the knowledge more intelligent players made.

Time is hard to overcome in Idleon 🤷

[ruby yarrow]

Want to see my IE?

[sterile coyote]

Possible to turn on atoms to stack your billons for bubble upgrades?

[tall horizon]

You're welcome to post it, I know you're a very new player.

[sterile coyote]

Off**

[ruby yarrow]

https://isaacpanic.idleonefficiency.com/

[tall horizon]

No, capped at 1050m. Only way to go above is by candy

[sterile coyote]

Man 😔

[ruby yarrow]

I didn’t cleared the stuff yet

[paper sail]

You can create multiple 1050m stacks if you really want

Otherwise yeah. Anything manually deposited over 1050m stays until you leave the map, then it gets converted too

[sterile coyote]

If I had 20 separate stacks of 1 oak in my chest would they all fill to 1050m ?

[tall horizon]

How long have you been playing?

[burnt sail]

4 more eclipse skulls left... and then w6 will drop and I'll have to start all over

[paper sail]

Printer always adds to the first stack

[sterile coyote]

Disappointing

[ruby yarrow]

No idea

[pearl cedar]

And have to redo w5

[pearl pebble]

does anyone know why when i upgrade stamps or alchemy bubbles for % total damage, i lose damage?

[ruby yarrow]

I already know that my account could be better but ok

[slender sandal]

if you're using mats that are part of power of 10 for damage buffs it could be it, artifacts from sailing conditional on items, etc

there's a lot of reasons potentially

[soft chasm]

Is like, the attack that gives a strength buff running out while ya in the menus?

[pearl pebble]

no

[fading plover]

You're doing pretty good, a few glaring things but a lot of good things too

[pearl pebble]

im on BB. so im not sure what it could be for damage buffs

sailing, i have no idea how that works

[ruby yarrow]

Me?

[sterile coyote]

Are you to world 5 yet?

[ruby yarrow]

Yes

[sterile coyote]

It’s okay

[fading plover]

Ya, for sure doing a decent job from the looks of it

[ruby yarrow]

Seriously?

[burnt sail]

Wait what do you mean 👀

[ruby yarrow]

I thought my account sucked because of trickz bunny’s remarks

[obtuse rover]

Lava programs idleon in a strange way, so weird things happen when he makes changes to it.

[fading plover]

I've seen far worse, there's things you can fix and improve but everyone is always working on things

[pearl pebble]

i checked. there doesnt seem to be anyhting that is effecting my damage based off of resources

[ruby yarrow]

What’s the main issue of my account, alchemy?

[tall horizon]

its not a competition unless thats what you enjoy. Your fun is more important. If you want advice, feel free to ask. otherwise, just enjoy yourself.

[obtuse rover]

When a new world is released, Lava usually reduces the kill-count required to unlock each portal in the previous world so people can progress through it faster.

But when he does this, it actually reduces the number of kills recorded on your DN (and Chow/Zow) by whatever amount he reduces the portal score requirement by.

So you'll lose many millions of kills on your DN when the new world is released, which may make you lose your eclipse skulls.

[ruby yarrow]

[pearl pebble]

lmao wtf

[burnt sail]

I hate that.

[fading plover]

Offhand alchemy can use a little work, boss keys need to be gotten on everyone, and worship can use a little love

[glacial vortex]

How do u auto attack?

[obtuse rover]

It's very funny

[slender sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-slayer-stressed-priestess-anime-you-get-used-to-it-gif-13752108

[burnt sail]

I'm laughing very bigly

[glacial vortex]

I thought you would call me stupid

[ruby yarrow]

I always forget to do the boss keys ones, but most of my players reach the end of w3 and I can easily reach the end of w2 with everyone (I know it’s not done yet because I don’t know)

[signal osprey]

We can call still call you stupid if that's what you want

[slender sandal]

w3 boss keys is annoying, basically need to rush everyone to the last map and then at the start of your reset week rotate through for the giant mob on that map

[ruby yarrow]

Already done 3 and haven’t done this reset yet

I should get my weaker characters to do the quest when the chances are still high to get a giant, right?

[slender sandal]

pretty much

[distant bronze]

there's a weekly reset on giant spawn rate

[fading plover]

Right, and you can always remove the giant prayer until you need it if you aren't on when reset happens

[ruby yarrow]

I know

[distant bronze]

I'd just do it on your main, and only do the quest when your weekly reset rolls around

[fading plover]

If you active play

[distant bronze]

I now understand your question, sorry. You're 100% right

[ruby yarrow]

Also I need to not forget the giant bubble for giant because I don’t have the companion

[swift wharf]

if i send a pic of the pets i have unlocked, anyone wanna tell me what the best set up is?

trying to crank salt for jewel

*spice

[ruby yarrow]

Should I put more love into my SB?

[tall horizon]

Put love into all characters

all chars need attention all the time lol

[ruby yarrow]

I don’t like my other characters

[autumn wasp]

does logging onto a squire mess up your build rate snapshot?

[ruby yarrow]

I only like 3 or 4

[autumn wasp]

or do you ahve to actually go into the construction bench

[sick orchid]

Is it really worth it to eclipse w5 atm if its going to be reset anyway?

[zealous niche]

A parent should love their children equally

[obtuse rover]

It's not being reset, your kill counts will just be reduced by some amount depending on how much lava lowers the portal scores needed to advance to each new zone.

[ruby yarrow]

………

[sick orchid]

Thank you for clarification

[modern plaza]

hopefully w5 doesn’t get nerfed and only boosted

[obtuse rover]

Lava needs people to be able to engage with his new content when it gets released, so it's in his interest (and the players') to make it easier to reach the newest world when it's released.

[swift wharf]

destroying any sense of proggresion?

[obtuse rover]

When you drop a big patch, you want to see a big spike in engagement.

You gotta do what you gotta do.

[soft chasm]

Man, I am not used to doing /anything/ activly. Does ES perform better with the cooldown from mana box?

[zinc torrent]

I remember that at some point, W4 got nerfed; a W5 nerf would not surprise me

[sinful aurora]

all active classes do better with that box

[signal osprey]

DK is better without mana box

[ruby yarrow]

How did it get nerfed?

[sinful aurora]

just don't max orb. problem solved.

[signal osprey]

Thats still worse though

267 orb with mana box is less loot than 300 without box

In theory eventually you can get enough talent levels on orb to make mana box better but its not currently possible

[sinful aurora]

never thought of it that way

[soft chasm]

I'm super short on boxes, so I only recently noticed it's existance

[modern plaza]

im at 450 with things that slow my cd time 🙃

[patent hatch]

Some of the IE reviews coming up on the subreddit are just ridiculous lol

Half the content not unlocked or attempted on any regard

[signal osprey]

The idleon sub might be the most useless subreddit ever made

[patent hatch]

I do recall it being not all that bad last year and before

Guides and decent discussion but now it’s just not it lol

[zinc torrent]

I went back and reexamined the change log; it was the W4 pet battle enemies that had their damage lowered, not the W4 monsters in general.
I remembered incorrectly

[ruby yarrow]

Oh okay

[tall horizon]

You were right, older worlds are always made easier on a new world release.

[ruby yarrow]

Also will we be able to use candies now in w5 when w6 release?

[tall horizon]

Yes

[ruby yarrow]

[rough wasp]

Sorta Decent

its nugget time

Lets see it

[fast grail]

Iirc, only changes to monsters were defense/accuracy requirements and portal counts

[sinful aurora]

I think hp went down a bit too on the later ones.

[dapper prism]

took a while but finally got this down from 1.6 to 1.5 😄
https://i.imgur.com/tpyKw02.png

[heavy siren]

I'm all the way to kruk but I'm nowhere near being able to kill him help me out will ya?

[rapid shale]

seems like youre missing a lot of progression across skilling

and your talent levels are super low

also Blood berserker will be tough cause of its lack of AoE

[heavy siren]

What does a killing have to do with damage

Skilling

[rapid shale]

you just havent gotten essential upgrades through skilling, alchemy, sailing, gaming

cooking

[prisma void]

Where do you see the nugget size possibilities?

Oh jk just found it on IE my bad for ping

[rough wasp]

Use IT for it, not IE

IT updated it with the equinox

[prisma void]

Is thay idleon toolbox?

[rough wasp]

ye

[prisma void]

Also what is the roll based off of?

Is mine

[rough wasp]

shovel size

then rng

[prisma void]

Just like the upgrade?

Or should i not be spam clicking it everytime I can

[rough wasp]

spam click

[prisma void]

Mines only 297 rn

Oh so its gotta roll higher

[rapid shale]

whats the cost of new bubbles when I have unlocked all w6 bubbles

[prisma void]

Then its based off that?

[rich epoch]

everyday I come here and people are not reacting with what's wrong with you

[untold saffron]

Man is at kruk with in a disguise and efaunt wondering why he can't kill him😂 I think he's missed most of the game

[rapid shale]

yea he probably rushed to w5 and hasnt taken the time to catch up

[rich epoch]

the 100 maxed talents hurt my soul ngl

[rapid shale]

Blood Berserker is aweird w5 pusher as well

[rapid shale]

probably has not even touched construction/w3 skills if he still only has 0 extra max levels

[untold saffron]

Think of all the ladles he lost pushing to moles with under 10m damage

[rapid shale]

dont worry hes getting his w5 chows done first

[rich epoch]

sometime I think I fucked up but at least I never crafted efaunt gear

[shy flame]

probably a dumb question but can you get lucky lad from afk?

[untold saffron]

To actually give advice and not just bully, I suggest you go all the way back to world one and open your idleontoolbox then literally go skill to skill world to world until you sort them out and understand them

[ruby yarrow]

[rich epoch]

ofc

why wouldn't it?

[shy flame]

only ever gotten one from active play so wasn't sure

[untold saffron]

Lucky lads are a strange one, you seem to pass a threshold where they go from nonexistent to fairly common at some point

[rich epoch]

the only drops that are active only are the special event ones I think so you can count on that

I mean and skull coins from sb

[vapid cove]

considering ive dropped all my 4 in the past week or so yeah i hit that threshhold

[untold saffron]

Save them on an alt, you need 75 of them

[rich epoch]

I laughed in terror when I started to drop 3 daily with only 13 dr imagining what people with more than that get

[shy flame]

I'll just go make a vman mine something and use 72 hour candy to see if that'll do it

[rich epoch]

that is the actual best strategy

[slender sandal]

dreadlo is best for that assuming you can or fishing if you're gigajuiced

[rich epoch]

if you're talking about the equinox dream

yeah, people recommend just that Mela said

[shy flame]

Yeah, I'm working on equidreams

[rich epoch]

remember the afk claim reroll too. if you haven't dropped and procced a reroll that is another chance for it

[untold saffron]

What do you mean there's no more dreams game, I need more

[slender sandal]

but you have 4, don't be greedy

[granite grove]

need more

[untold saffron]

31 more days for the pickle, waiting on W6 for 184/200 green stacks and lv500s

[slender sandal]

wait until there's a pickle farm in w6

[vapid cove]

a pickle monster that has a 1/mil drop would be ok with me

[rich epoch]

Alvin has 400 stacks easy

[vapid cove]

now I want a old school classic

Hot cheetos and a dill pickle with some juie

juice

[languid jacinth]

hey smart late gamers, which map in world 2 is the best for bubo? im trying to farm statues for the monolith quest, and i need some more of the w2 statues for onyx statues, so id figure id do both

[rough wasp]

wish i got more chems

[vapid cove]

shouldnt be using bubuo for that use DK

[languid jacinth]

im doing it more for the 100k statues monolith quest

im just trying to be efficient

[obtuse rover]

Just had my second attempt at TD in a row freeze on me

It's not worth it, man.

[rough wasp]

You go mine some dreadlo for that instead 😎

if u got more candies

[languid jacinth]

i dont really have the candies to dump on it sadly, only got like 40 2hs and 100 1hrs that i dont want to have to click through

[vapid cove]

if you've gone through W5 its not really needed

and a couple of weeks passing ur gonna get a ton back

[rough wasp]

Just a few hours wasted that coulda been on beans

[shy flame]

what's a proper end game obol setup for family?

[shy flame]

I forgot the glacial knight has a special square, but thanks. Had figured out the non circles but forgot about pop pop for the circles

[stray valve]

where is dice obols with dice on them

except one in pic

[tall horizon]

You can get them anywhere in w2

best way to farm them is Dk crystal farm

[rich epoch]

I wish we could get prestige obols or something

even me would have ultra blaster prestige dice obol

at least they rendered me a lot of fragments

[stray valve]

purple one why don't have more

[eternal mantle]

at more obol progression like onyx statues fr

add

[rich epoch]

you need account level total 5000+ for the last slot to unlock

[rich epoch]

that would be really cool to add function to then but at this point if I'd get a wat to autofrag obols while farming stuff I'd be happy enough

[proud pumice]

is this captain good? i think his stats are meh but it's the first one i saw with this combination, which looks very good

[eternal mantle]

its meh

[proud pumice]

is this combination rare? or am i just not checking the captains often enough?

[eternal mantle]

its not that great

loot value boat speed would be better

[proud pumice]

isn't artifact find chance good? since the main point of sailing is to get artifacts

or is it that the boost is so small that you don't care

[viral snow]

Its very small

[untold saffron]

Speed and loot are usually the target stats on captains

[proud pumice]

most of mine are loot and speed, i just thought that maybe some focusing on artifact chance could be good

since afaik loot doesn't increase artifact chance

[untold saffron]

Every level gives their base stat again as an increase so that sailor is bad because he'd only be 50% speed at tier 10, one with like 30% base would be 300%

[untold saffron]

It's to upgrade ships faster

[proud pumice]

didn't even know 30% base was possible

[untold saffron]

50-60% base is possible on the more end game captains

[proud pumice]

oh is it based on sailing lvl?

[forest berry]

which bubbles should i focus on? ive recently been trying to get more chopping, but if there are others i should focus in general or that im forgetting to do for chopping on please let me know

[proud pumice]

people say to lvl up laaaary first if you can afford

since it gives more lvls to all the ones you go for after

[slender sandal]

larry 501 = guaranteed 2 levels per

[untold saffron]

Larry to 100% is huge

[slender sandal]

and then usually doing the skilling bubbles (bubble 3) for better samples, CC for bubo is always big, then bubble 2s as well

[forest berry]

thank you ill start doing that once i get atoms does it go past 100% ie 5% chance for 3 or no?

[slender sandal]

if you need multifish/log/bug/ore to 300% still those are good targets

and yes it is a chance for 3

but the scaling is horrendous

[untold saffron]

If you have the samples to do so I'd start hourly clicking at least bubble 1s

[proud pumice]

yes

[vapid cove]

get multi ores to 300 and anything else you could use for more skill gains

[oak hemlock]

Guys, if i reset killoy for 300 gems, I'll get 2 bonus upgrade?

[untold saffron]

Ye

[oak hemlock]

Ty

[hybrid spindle]

the ancient/eldritch effects for the post office artifacts still don't work do they?

[untold saffron]

They do, 100% chance of 2 boxes per pen and 50% for a 3rd

[patent hatch]

which class do I want to set up traps on again?

[granite grove]

BM, unless if needing to maximize exp then vman

[storm kelp]

my first one of these evos

log book now at 48

[patent hatch]

nah looking to get 2m of the critter for the chip next week

[stiff swan]

In equinox, I’m at max 2 first square things on the board on the bottom. How do I get to next thing

[stiff swan]

exp goes to each indiv char regardless of who sets the trap?

[tranquil surge]

is 1 in 70 enough for crystal farming on dk for onyx statues?

[stiff swan]

You just set mman to the highest exp trap (green) I think

[stiff swan]

See above

[tranquil surge]

complete the bubbles bobert

one of the bubbles will say which reward unlocks the next equinox square

[stiff swan]

Thx thought so

[stiff swan]

I see, says reward

[granite grove]

yes

[vestal knot]

Yeo, how do these gold pocket watches work I don't wanna waste it lol

[granite grove]

procs all stuff that triggers on daily reset, like shops, atom spend chances, daily tickets and keys

doesnt work on timer based on stuff like mman prints and any other abilities for example

[tranquil surge]

doesnt work on any weeklys either

dailys only

[granite grove]

doesnt necessarily instantly clock all timer by 24hr, just straight up procs anything that resets on the daily reset time

[vestal knot]

I get you dudeskis thanks a mil

[storm kelp]

it doesn't matter if I collect xp traps with BM or let the vacuum get them later?

[stuck pasture]

Well I feel pretty dumb now, got Vman chalking up kills like a noob, not fully realising the speedrun 2m cap… what should I do with him in a post doot world?

[granite grove]

skilling

[stiff swan]

What do you mean not fully realizing the speedrun 2m cap? I don’t have vman yet jw

[granite grove]

especially important for trapping since the exp gain is the bottle neck for skillage damage

using vman speedrun sets all vman’s DN kill to 2m regardless of how much you have

exception applies to mobs past biggole moles, which has DN set to like 5m to 10m

[storm kelp]

I am too afraid to use these

[young blade]

how to stop pet arena properly?

[storm kelp]

exit

no joke

[stray valve]

he's joking

[storm kelp]

bump

[young blade]

how to speed up forge?

by the way is it worth to activate Cash prayer bonus in shrine for bubbo?

[sly rampart]

If i use arctis divinity. & place my chars in lab will they get exp?

[warm parcel]

Mass murder

With archer, specifically

[vestal knot]

Is there a path to guarantee defeating all bosses in weekly boss fight?

[clear quartz]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 weekly routes get pinned

[vestal knot]

Muchos gracias senor

[raven fog]

wow

[storm kelp]

finally, been holding off on this for too long. I almost started believeing the guides were lying because I tried this like 50 times

[pulsar cliff]

Goodbye RNG, hello bits.

[storm kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/lilbits-rick-and-morty-eatshit-gif-8988699

"lil bits"

[slender sandal]

now do the equinox again until you get a 10mil nugget!

[pastel bramble]

My max nugget currently 80m 😒game isn't giving me anything grr I'm almost 3k rolls deep now

[worthy helm]

What's the minimum fishing time? 1 second?

[eternal dove]

t7 when

[warm parcel]

Lucky. My game always crashes, so I gave up.

[storm kelp]

even when u play in the mode with less visuals? sad

[storm kelp]

I got ym first of this today 🙂

[warm parcel]

Yes, even then.

[eternal dove]

i just unlocked the t7 superbit. now to wait for t7 chemmy

[warm parcel]

It’s not much less visuals…

[sinful aurora]

What less visual mode are we talking about?

[eternal dove]

oh yeah i also got a new nug

[storm kelp]

"accio"

[eternal dove]

"protego"

[storm kelp]

"WINgaRDiuM lEvioSAAAAAA"

[warm parcel]

Is it THAT big a difference between 200 tenteye and 250 tenteye? Is it worth focusing to get eldritch and blow 20 books?

[eternal dove]

AVADA KEDAVRA

[storm kelp]

ded

[warm parcel]

It’s leviOOOOsa, not leviosAAAA

[storm kelp]

thanks for catching that 😉

https://tenor.com/view/ceku-tugce-tuğçe-game-of-thrones-gif-19478612

[eternal dove]

not a superrrrrr big difference. 200 is just the threshold for getting the 3s. after that its just proc chance

[prisma drift]

Very small gain too

[warm parcel]

So I can chill and collect other artifacts now?

[strong nova]

but, other talent..

also need re book if get 245

[eternal dove]

is fury eldritch?

[warm parcel]

+50 portal worth?

[prisma drift]

All boats should be hitting the farthest island they can imo

Not chasing eld fury

[warm parcel]

No, just ancient…been trying for ~6 weeks and finally got it today.

[prisma drift]

The other artifacts are useful too

[eternal dove]

fury is most important to get eldritch

do you at least have every artifact at least base?

[snow light]

i mean my sailing is abysmal i am trying to just level up boats and captains rn to a decent level

[prisma drift]

Don’t get hung up on a single artifact keep hitting the farthest island you can

[warm parcel]

No, been trying to get ancient fury. Accidentally got a lot of others ancient and all others before fury base. But only one after fury has been obtained.

[prisma drift]

With the min sail time

You stop getting boat upgrades when you only hit one island

Which slows down your sailing in the end

[eternal dove]

id say go ahead and try and get base all then go back for eldritch fury. or ancient most impactful ones then eldritch fury

[snow light]

thank you i had no idea what to do and what was keeping me from progressing

i had just changed out some captains and trying to upgrade my boats as much as i can

[prisma drift]

Farther islands loot sells for more gold bars

[storm kelp]

btw u always have kitsune active or inactive?

[prisma drift]

Also farther islands are more xp

[eternal dove]

active. chems more important

[warm parcel]

That was the answer I was hoping for aswell. Took ages to get ancient fury. Didn’t want to be told to eld it before finishing out the rest.

[prisma drift]

So more artifact find chance

[storm kelp]

ok cool

[snow light]

just recently took them off lightning island for pig pirate mission in W5

[eternal dove]

especially since any time skips have a much more likely chance of getting at least t4/5s which id say probably equals out to more bits

[prisma drift]

Sailing speed comes from a lot of sources

So you’ll need to look around to work on it

[warm parcel]

Minimum island time reduction comes from somewhere, right?

[kind mulch]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=sailing.*(sp.*d|progress)

[storm kelp]

does upgrading kitsune only affect the bonus or also the curse part? and is it multiplicative or just additive to the original kitsune?

[kind mulch]

sailing spd ^

[prisma drift]

So even if you have 999M speed there’s a minimum time it takes to do the trip

Lowering that lowers the min

[warm parcel]

In my experience, only the bonus. But I never did the math.

[eternal dove]

and i agree at least base all artifacts would at least grant more account wide bonuses and give more gold in the long run.

[sinful aurora]

Only 2 sources. Sb class level + family guy talent. Shiny pet (breeding).

[prisma drift]

To be fair having not even base artifacts and chasing eld fury is kinda silly

What’s your book checkout time to 20 at that point

[eternal dove]

whats your growth cycle without kitsune? and with?

[prisma drift]

Once a day?

[warm parcel]

Pretty ok, actually…

[vagrant mountain]

yo hoggi check it 😎

[kind mulch]

What is kitsune? 🐱

[prisma drift]

That’s real nice

[eternal dove]

gaming import

[vagrant mountain]

thanks, im halfway there

[prisma drift]

1/4th

Don’t be lazy

[warm parcel]

A day sounds about right…

[vagrant mountain]

never stop clicking

[kind mulch]

oh, thx. forgot about it

[prisma drift]

Wouldn’t be worth chasing eld fury which has taken people months imo

Sailing has a ton of other account buffs

[eternal dove]

at least im almost done with sailing

[prisma drift]

Yarn is huge

[eternal dove]

and i say almost VERY liberally

[prisma drift]

I finished sailing in like 3 months

[warm parcel]

Wut? How do I get this? Credit card? 😂

[prisma drift]

Had fat hamster stacks on everyone

[kind mulch]

0.01 chances 💀

[eternal dove]

i havent been credit carding it

[hexed elm]

hp doesnt effect fishing at all right?

[prisma drift]

Didn’t need to

I bought 3 ancients and you can’t buy eld

[eternal dove]

i spent wayyyyy too much time trying for eldritch lantern and i regretted it so i went back and got the easier ones and now making more progress

[prisma drift]

Just checked every 2 hours and used golden hampsters

I also have a 99 luck stat

[kind mulch]

ancient artif in gem shop is scam, tbh

[warm parcel]

Correct. Unless you actually take damage, then it affects how fast you burn your food.

[eternal dove]

ive got like 10k gold hamps on each character as well as doot omni procs

[prisma drift]

Not if you only have one ancient available

[hexed elm]

thanks

[prisma drift]

You can buy a specific ancient

[kind mulch]

my progess rn

[snow light]

SB lowers minimum sailing time that is only a side benefit i am trying to get that 1m plunderous kill but will most likely stop at 100k just cause it takes super long

[prisma drift]

Like personally I’d buy ancient lantern

If it was my last to ancient

[vagrant mountain]

but youre also whale

[prisma drift]

Actually a fake whale lol

[vagrant mountain]

relative whale

[eternal dove]

no hes a bean slayer

[prisma drift]

When I post my gems bought it’s pretty tiny

Most people have double or triple mine

I’m like a baby dolphin

[vagrant mountain]

you have full chipset so you are whale

[prisma drift]

Rng bb

[kind mulch]

how check bough gems?

[prisma drift]

Luck stat 99

[prisma drift]

Idleon eff raw data

Search for the key words server gems

[kind mulch]

"ServerGems": 37792

[prisma drift]

Ngl I spent 100$ this month

But I was at 40k 2 months ago

[kind mulch]

i buy update packs sometimes

[prisma drift]

This limited gem shop was mad expensive

[heady torrent]

1$ is how many gems roughly

[kind mulch]

but green gems is eh....

[storm kelp]

how do I check?

[prisma drift]

Spent 25k gems on the limited shop

[snow light]

honestly same bro i gues i am also a small dolphin by those standards

[kind mulch]

green gems is spit in the soul

[prisma drift]

A whale is 200k+

[eternal dove]

turn off kitsune and click fertilizer upgrade and your second upgrade

[prisma drift]

Some people have 1M

[snow light]

holy

[prisma drift]

Those are humpbacks

[ornate zinc]

Which of these should i go for

[storm kelp]

I got 6 trees growing, I will do it at some point. but what hsould I check for then?

[kind mulch]

are you lucky?

[ornate zinc]

Most people say so yes

[eternal dove]

most times its best to do cheapest unless you have 50 or 100%

[eternal dove]

well whats your time with kitsune on?

[storm kelp]

it is 3.3 minutes with kitsune on

[eternal dove]

well iirc thats the time it takes for your garden to fill up completely

[prisma drift]

I’m at 1.8 w kit

[eternal dove]

im 2.2 w kit

[kind mulch]

i'm only 4.4 🐌

[vagrant mountain]

imagine using kit

[eternal dove]

whats wrong with kit

[prisma drift]

You use it when you chem loop for nugget farming

[vagrant mountain]

less bits

[prisma drift]

Wrong

[eternal dove]

but when i chem i get instant t4/5s which equals to more bits

[formal minnow]

I believe that time is per growth cycle, which is like a plant growing

[prisma drift]

I’ve done both and they are pretty equal bits

[kind mulch]

am i must focus on log book after all evo's is unlock?

[prisma drift]

When you have a high chance go evo and a high speed they pop a lot higher tiers with kit on

I was getting t6’s while farming nugs

[vagrant mountain]

idk yeah they are pretty similar bits i guess, but a lot less clicking without kits

[prisma drift]

True but I just wanna nug farm

[eternal dove]

its also how long they grow back. plus the growth cycle

[prisma drift]

My bits atm aren’t too important

[vagrant mountain]

hows your nug looking

[prisma drift]

700k

Stacked up to 5k min rn

[vagrant mountain]

i got 768k nug rn

hoping for at least 1m xd

[prisma drift]

About the same but you’ll pop one soon

I hope you get 769

[vagrant mountain]

dont say that

[prisma drift]

Too late

[vagrant mountain]

[prisma drift]

I’m gonna get a huge jump

Like 5M

[vagrant mountain]

no u get 800k

[prisma drift]

I’m here at beans and you’re not here btw?

[eternal dove]

i just jumped from 1m to 3m

[prisma drift]

Where’s my bean baby

[vagrant mountain]

i ran out of liquid

ill be back at the bored ones shortly

[prisma drift]

My daily reset got fucked yesterday

[eternal dove]

got enough chems yet?

[prisma drift]

Idk what happened but it’s like 4 hours later now

[vagrant mountain]

too much ES

[prisma drift]

It’s past my bedtime now

[kind mulch]

never enough

[prisma drift]

I was on beans…..

[vagrant mountain]

weird

[prisma drift]

I haven’t left beans in a week

[eternal dove]

if i get to 20 t4/5s again im gonna hit harvest all again....

[vagrant mountain]

i never get more than a few mins desync at beans

[prisma drift]

Gonna need to buy hella silver watches

[sacred verge]

just desync it more

[prisma drift]

I don’t know how to do it

[sacred verge]

untill its good again

[prisma drift]

On purpose lol

It’s never moved that much for me

Usually a minute or two haha

[sacred verge]

i had mine move over a day lol

[kind cave]

Guys can I ask how to get this skill to be useful? I've seen people commenting it's game changer. Is it just to lvl up cooking and the talent or am I dumb? I know I won't be getting millions of % straight away since my cooking sucks. But I'd still expect a bit more than 1% lol

[sacred verge]

not 100% sure how its done tho

[prisma drift]

Maybe I just turn off auto loot on ES

[kind cave]

Sorry it's w4 but you probably know lol

[eternal dove]

pickle reminder

[prisma drift]

That sounds like I’d get some desync

[kind mulch]

lvl up meals

[sacred verge]

need more meal lvls

[vagrant mountain]

yeah pretty sure desync is caused by lag so just make yourself lag i guess xD

[prisma drift]

I am lag?

[vagrant mountain]

you know what i mean

heh

[prisma drift]

Ewww B

[prisma drift]

All my homies hate the letter B

[kind cave]

I get it but it says 0.66% for each lvl and since I have 95 levels, it should give about 63% not 1%

[kind mulch]

M - B- T?

[prisma drift]

T gang

[sacred verge]

its exponential

[vagrant mountain]

[prisma drift]

Ewww B

[sacred verge]

the trillion 😮

[prisma drift]

Q soon

[sacred verge]

to my defense, ive not done any cooking for ladles

[kind cave]

Gotcha, so just lvling up meals and the talent right?

[slender sandal]

yeah it gets better the more ou go

[sacred verge]

max the talent and lvl up meals

[vagrant mountain]

a lot of speed comes from atom collider

[prisma drift]

I’m only at 92T

[sacred verge]

you need quite a bit of lvls before it starts rampinmg up tho

[prisma drift]

100k ladle dream done soon

Then I can get the Q speed

[vagrant mountain]

dont be like me and spend 100k ladles on cannoli

[prisma drift]

I’m gonna spend them on turkey

[static basin]

why

[snow light]

yeah man such a game changer

[vagrant mountain]

do cherry

[prisma drift]

Because turkey

[static basin]

do 10 different meals

[vagrant mountain]

tru

[storm kelp]

y not 10 unique ones?

[static basin]

10 meal levels will give u so much more speed than all on turkey

[prisma drift]

Why would I do something efficiently

[eternal dove]

but turkey

[prisma drift]

Turkey for my sammiches

[kind cave]

Okay thanks all

[storm kelp]

I calculated each kitchen will get about 20 years of cooking time.. and u want turkeys x10?

[prisma drift]

200 years of turkey 🦃

[storm kelp]

200+ years

[eternal dove]

thats like 200 thanksgivings

[prisma drift]

I’ll be very thankful

[storm kelp]

but then those 200 years would be worth less if you spent some on speed meals and then went turkey. I believe there are ways u can get bigger turkey gains from spreading out your investment early...

[prisma drift]

But but turkey

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/athousandyearsofdeath-naruto-kakashi-gif-7920569

[storm kelp]

Invest or spend?

[eternal dove]

cant someone just want some turkey...

[prisma drift]

That’s 1000 years of death

[storm kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-throw-window-money-cash-gif-16491349

[vagrant mountain]

pretty much the same thing

[prisma drift]

It’s hard not buying out chips this week

But I must be strong and save for w6

[vagrant mountain]

i should grind gems at kruk

[storm kelp]

what did I miss?

oh gem chips

I was like thinking W4 2 gem thingy per week...

[eternal mantle]

hugeee

[vagrant mountain]

nice number

[eternal dove]

ill get all my super chows done some day

[sacred verge]

soo close

[storm kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-battlefield2-gif-26146314

if u know u know

[vagrant mountain]

i dont play fps games xD

[eternal dove]

we only play pixel art idle games

[storm kelp]

bf2 was not a game, it was a way of life

am I alloweds to post a youtube clip here?

it's just a 1337 song from bf2 days xD

[vagrant mountain]

its ok no snitches here

[storm kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DogyL-9d2k&ab_channel=ChaceEllis

[sacred verge]

ive said it before and il say it again. never trust a dootsless man to not snitch

he will allways snitch for a doot

[lapis glacier]

Whats the highest possible nugget? 🤔

[sacred verge]

atleast 10

[lapis glacier]

😂

[storm kelp]

12?

[sacred verge]

might be 12, idk

i just know that its atleast 10

[lapis glacier]

I mean multiplier

[sacred verge]

i can confirm 10

[tacit tulip]

I heard rumours of a 13 once but couldn't verify the source

[sacred verge]

hmmm

im not sure if i buy that one

[clear quartz]

tree fiddy

[formal minnow]

Got made fun of for having 50k pet power but no Peapod, so I decided to save up a few of my doot procs in pet breeding and just knock out like 10 hours of candy for splicing... 66k peapod was the unlocking pull, and there's that equinox done

[pastel bramble]

u shouldnt care what others say about your account since everyone is individual anyway 😄

play at the speed ur happy with

[tacit tulip]

Also the challenge is 115 not 130 :p

[sacred verge]

what?

was it allways 115?

[tacit tulip]

Nope

[sacred verge]

it says 130

[tacit tulip]

It was listed as 100 but required 130

Lava updated it to 115

[sacred verge]

ahh

nice

[formal minnow]

Either way, challenge done. Now if I just had not done my daily stuff(ya know, gaming collection and using my dreams) before deciding that was what I was accomplishing today

[storm kelp]

I was the same

[gilded pond]

I do not have a peapod, so I'm guessing I need to farm it?

[formal minnow]

It's very useful. Without peapod and using a bones, I only got to I think 98?

[gilded pond]

Which unlock is it? After worms (proabably wishful thinking)?

[worthy helm]

Indeed after worm

[formal minnow]

It is after worms

[worthy helm]

The controversial dog

[gilded pond]

Thank god! lol I'm grinding that now 😌

[formal minnow]

Splicing helps a lot

Literally 10 1 hour candy's on pmush

[gilded pond]

My odds are <100 right now, so it should land soon

[bright current]

These shits are on my filter list for like 5 days, how did just a couple of them drop lmfao

[solemn spire]

hmm iwonder what's the trick to getting the 75 flag score on SB for rift

[tranquil surge]

high talent level

[worthy helm]

High talent lv helps a lot and also vman eclipse helps

[tacit tulip]

Also ensuring you can onetap the mobs

[tranquil surge]

aslong as the numbers under 100 then eclipse helps

for the achievement of 150 sb flag score cant be on

[formal minnow]

If you can't get it in one flag, then only try to build a lot of plunder mobs and aim to get like, 2 on each platform. Then on your next flag cycle, use the prespawned ones to get it jump started immediately, and start auto.

[solemn spire]

do both pirate flag and plunder talent affect this, or only the plunder one? the tooltips are a bit vague 😄

[formal minnow]

Pirate flag increases duration of flag, coins increases respawn duration from killing one plunder mob

[solemn spire]

and high flag count comes from getting multiple plunderous mob kills quickly, so that the spawns saved on the flag can't be used?

[formal minnow]

Correct. If you're on mobile, I've also noticed if you manually collect, it seems to help that, I'm not totally sure why. I think it's cause autoloot delays it enough for multiple mobs to be respawned before collection, while manually looting makes a bottleneck of how many mobs need respawned

But its not only multiple plunderous mobs(although they do help) since regular mobs can also drop coins.

[kind cave]

Oh yeah now we're talking

[solemn spire]

i waited to see two plunderous mobs, killed them and collected manually -> got 75

[formal minnow]

Sweet. Also for es, you know about using the leftmost platform?

[worthy helm]

Crazy 2%

Will scale pretty fast

[eternal dove]

just added 100 meal levels

[sacred verge]

damn im not that far off T

just 300 more lvls

[junior arrow]

it really scales nicely after even that as well

[sacred verge]

nice

gonna hit trillions in now time now that ive finally got my BB cooking

[tacit tulip]

the scary part is the buff is giving less than it should

it's meant to be a factor of 100 higher

[eternal dove]

im just really struggling pushing my cooking speed to get to that point

i just spent 100 ladles on each meal

[sacred verge]

100 ladles is not much tho

considering we are wasting 100k on equinox

[junior arrow]

it costs me over 1k ladles per meal level at this point

[sacred verge]

thats like 2 lvls a day

with only a decent BB cooking

[eternal dove]

yeah ik. i just used my 100k yesterday so didnt have but like 4k left and spent 100 on each

[junior arrow]

about 3 levels a day for me

[eternal dove]

ive still got a few w5 mobs left to super chow on 2nd bb

[sacred verge]

yeah my BB sucks

[eternal dove]

id candy it if i could

[sacred verge]

only just finished superchow. and my stamps is low af

[eternal dove]

im at 57 superchows atm

[junior arrow]

i really should finish doing superchow but i only got boops and equinox, one isnt really doable and the other is painful to do

[eternal dove]

once i get my es to 500 i may painfully let my 2nd bb sit at doot....

[prisma drift]

Sounds done to me

I still have doot shroom

Other than that I don’t count boops or equinox as doable tbh

I’m not claiming 4k 2 minute claims lol

[junior arrow]

yea boops arent really possible at the moment, well i havent done the math yet but it will take a long time i know that.

i am considering doing exquinox though, but maybe after i finish a few things first, i already chowed it

[prisma drift]

I’m at 15k a day I think

With like 2T dmg on Bb

Boops not possible for me

Would take over 6k days

[junior arrow]

just get a few golden pocketwatches easy done haha

[teal lynx]

So close yet so far. Still a pretty good find

[tidal sky]

is 10k GT good to leave at for now?

[sacred verge]

why not push it more?

10k is not big

[tidal sky]

idk, it is annoying

10k is not big yet? 😭

[jagged charm]

It's why it's called grind time

It never ends

[sacred verge]

20k is when we start talking

id understand you leaving it at 20k

im gonna push mine to 25k atleast

[tidal sky]

💀

i need to level my liquid rate, that is the excuse 👍

[sacred verge]

then do that first

i got mine to 340 before i went all inn on GT

[tacit tulip]

I do GT during the day and rates overnight

[solemn spire]

alright next question regarding rift. how do the skulls work? when i kill a white skull, does it have a 1/2 chance to upgrade a white one to a bronze one, or does it have a 1/2 chance to spawn a bronze one? Or something else?

[tacit tulip]

a 1/2 chance that another mob on the map gains a bronze skull

This means you want to avoid killing every mob on the map at once - if there's no mob for it to transfer to, you lose it

[solemn spire]

aight so as long as i have mobs on the map, i can get better skulls?

[tacit tulip]

Yup! I /think/ they despawn if left eventually but not 100% on that

what I do is:

auto until I see a blue skull

manually kill that

50% chance it goes purple

manually kill that

50% chance it goes lava

done

[solemn spire]

nice thanks

im guessing SB/ES are the ones to use

[tacit tulip]

SB is good for it, the map layout means it can't kill all mobs before they respawn as long as you have coin buff

Bubo is surprisingly good too as you're constantly casting revive, all mobs are rarely dead at once

DK bad as the revive for that only triggers when every mob is dead

ES has the risk that you get your good skull on a tanky portal mob, and it despawns before you can kill it

[solemn spire]

lmao 5 blues, 0 purlples 😄

[sleek ermine]

Disagree on bubo, i oneshot everything or close to everything everytime

[solemn spire]

well i do have a shit bubo, so that might work

[tacit tulip]

I guess it depends when you do rift

Most people push rift, especially the later stages, without MK

And at that point bubo isn't map clearing

[solemn spire]

i'm just running es for green stacks/alchemy while waiting for cookie/fury relic

[tidal sky]

340? which lvl are u rates? u also prob have the sigil buff too?

by 340 u already meant the rates lvl or liquid per hour?

[storm kelp]

ugh, how far am I from 2000?

if u say 948 I swear to god

[tacit tulip]

I was gonna say "about halfway" so maybe I'm not the most useful here 😄

[storm kelp]

ok so what now

respawn?

i did respawn

[tacit tulip]

2k skulls is a mix of only a handful of factors:

1. +timer
2. +Respawn (timer seems more important)
3. Map layout (this weeks maps aren't great)
4. Getting the right class (bubo is easiest for this but I got close a couple times using DK)
5. Talent levels (need them high to consistently kill more mobs)

I hit 1900 on the frogs map a couple weeks ago

but only like 1500 on slimes this week

[storm kelp]

ok cool thanks

what are your stats on the upgrades?

just so I know how many weeks behind I am

probably a year...

[tacit tulip]

something like 50 timer and... maybe 10 respawn?

[storm kelp]

yesh 8 months nice

[tacit tulip]

since equinox I've been using the horn to double my runs

[rugged token]

you can always pay gems each week and make it 4 months instead of 8

[bold quiver]

need over 70 or 80 timer to get 2000 it hink

[storm kelp]

how do you get the extra runs per week again?

[bold quiver]

cuz i have 55 with 10 resp and my max was 1700

[tacit tulip]

you spend 300 gems at skull man to reset the week and get 2 more runs

[brazen silo]

just equip key chain with mob respawn it really helps

[bold quiver]

rly?

[brazen silo]

yup

[bold quiver]

holy didnt know external sources had any influence

[tacit tulip]

yeah I'm just gonna dump timer until I get it now. Doubt it'll take too long given how close I've gotten

Bubo's raise dead works on the maps too

it doesn't bring all mobs back but it def spawns more

[bold quiver]

same, i pushed mob respawn to 10 and now everything will go into timer until i get it

a shame i played all this time and never used horn (there wasnt a real reason to do so also, so understandable)

[tacit tulip]

was so depressingly close

[bold quiver]

ohman!!! what are your stats

[tacit tulip]

like I said earlier, was about 50 timer

and 10 or so respawn

[craggy fern]

whats a recommended larry % for early game atom collider

like 110%?

[bold quiver]

100% early, later 110% imo

or just go to 110% its not that big of a deal if u arent rushing content

[craggy fern]

i can do like 20 larry ups a day

so i aim for 110%

[bold quiver]

in the long run stopping at 110% would be better, but i would stop at 100% cuz of how hard it is to lvl larry early

[bold quiver]

yeah up to u. BOth are fine. Minimum is 101% which is lvl 513 or something

[tulip kayak]

its so many atoms 😦

[tacit tulip]

1 minute to my definitely free doot

[teal lynx]

I got Slug today. So close to a Doot

You will get the Doot for sure

[tacit tulip]

Slug is a huge win anyway

[tulip kayak]

35 hours until my 2nd doot surely

[tacit tulip]

I'd take either at this point

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-tom-cruise-the-mummy-confused-huh-gif-7889528

[tacit tulip]

Molti

[teal lynx]

You are hoarding so many moltis, that they multiply amongst each other

Gotta throw all the down bad moltis away

[tacit tulip]

Moltiply

[bold quiver]

he has a molti infection

any tips for doing this? i tried but i always end up clicking my character randomly

[tacit tulip]

in happier news I can max out purrmeps blessing today

[tacit tulip]

My tip is to not click the character

[tulip kayak]

leave one of them for a week

[teal lynx]

Go on Vacation without any access to IdleOn

[bold quiver]

niceeee thats good strategy

[tacit tulip]

Use RNG time candy and roll 168+ hours

[olive sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/look-holy-moly-omg-whoa-gif-22960590

[tulip kayak]

does that even count

[bold quiver]

oh yeah, i tried that last time. 20 time candy didnt roll

[tacit tulip]

It'd probably count

[bold quiver]

gonna wait for another shop replenish of it

[elfin idol]

it counted when i did it that way

[spice meadow]

When w6 releases, the portal requirements for w5 will get bigger?

[tacit tulip]

Other way around, they'll most likely get smaller

[spice meadow]

Like, kill 1000 enemies now, to 750 post release?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah

W3/4 did the same thing when 4/5 came out

Note that it can slightly break your deathnote

If he drops the portal by 1 mil, you'll lose 1 mil deathnote per character

[teal lynx]

I think the portals requirements gonna be 10x less. So 1 Million would be 100k. Atleast that's what happened with W4 iirc

[tacit tulip]

Looking forward to 100mil for last w6 map

[violet bridge]

just crafted troll boots, do I chance it and use armor stone SK

[tacit tulip]

Just stick to w5 stones for now

[violet bridge]

wait until i can craft more consistently?

[teal lynx]

100m kills ain't too bad if it's a good map for Bubo (and you have the damage)

U gonna upgrade your Troll Boots to Magma anyways. No need to hinder your progress with rng

Boss Stones are more of a endgame min max mechanic. No need to use it really

[spice meadow]

Can i use 7 sheepie to make a Ram? :>

[steady beacon]

If I upgrade the trapper building, or increase my honkers vial, so I need to set traps on all my characters again? Or is the bonus applied on top of the set trap?

[tacit tulip]

Critters are calculated at trap place

As is exp

Shinies are calculated when you pick them up, though

[steady beacon]

Ah, crap. So I'll have to do it all over again tomorrow. Doh.

Thanks!

[spice meadow]

The honkers vial is huge, one could say it is bonkers

[tacit tulip]

That reminds me, hit honkers 12 last night

So need to reset

[storm kelp]

divine or magma equipment for void runs?

[pine yacht]

the last 2 will take longer than all of the previous ones together wont they ...

[storm kelp]

took me a few hours to do in total

[pine yacht]

divine pants and chest, rest magma probably

[storm kelp]

ok

[pine yacht]

eh, I am at 4 min cycle so it's my second day :p

[storm kelp]

I was only at 3.3 but that is fast if you stare at your screen

https://tenor.com/view/productivity-thomas-frank-computer-work-stress-gif-14974569

[dark haven]

when i get the artifact for auto collection traps, what traps should i use for max critter gaining efficiency?

[pine yacht]

you mean the rift bonus ?

[dark haven]

yes

[pine yacht]

it's dogshit, dont use it

manually collect

[dark haven]

aight bet

[pine yacht]

you get no cards, you cant use food to boost shiny, it only collects on daily reset etc.

[dark haven]

it seemed like such a good qol upgrade

[pine yacht]

ye everyone was really excited for it when it came out until the second day of that update when we realized how bad it was

[dark haven]

how do i turn off?

[pine yacht]

you cant... that's also one of the reasons people hate it

you just try to make sure to collect traps before daily reset

[dark haven]

thats pretty horrible tbh

[pine yacht]

yup

[lost depot]

More than that, some W4 portals were reduced by like 5x or 10x in the last world update

[pine yacht]

on the bright side every other rift upgrade is really good

[lost depot]

I think historically Lava wants you to be able to access the new world much faster because otherwise whats the point

[pine yacht]

let's just hope I'll have enough dmg this time around to MK those mofos

[lost depot]

Do you mean you get reduced card drops? Because you definitely get cards from it

[pine yacht]

as in you cant equip card drop chance cards before claiming to get more of them

[lost depot]

I see

[spice meadow]

Oh, thank god

[scenic locust]

isn't it snapshot from when you placed the traps?

[spice meadow]

Did not want to push now, divinity and lab farming

[pine yacht]

afik those as well as shiny chance get calculated in when you collect

[lost depot]

Traps is the worst mechanic in this game behind sailing so I'll take whatever QoL I can get, the less I interact with it the better lol

[scenic locust]

yeah it's very annoying

[pine yacht]

suit yourself, but just know that it will throttle your progress a lot

[spice meadow]

Really?

I like sailing

Number go big : big happy

[burnt sail]

Not cards or shiny chance IIRC. It's on collection.

[scenic locust]

sailing is annoying because you have to log in every 2-4 hours

[lost depot]

Sailing is fun and I love the art style, but the UI might be the worst ever seen in Idleon, it's even worse than some skills in Idle Skilling

[pine yacht]

ye, but the UI is dogshit, that's why some people hate it

[spice meadow]

...I like the UI-

[lost depot]

It's completely dysfunctional

[spice meadow]

Kinda

[pine yacht]

you dont HAVE to, it's just optimal, same as you dont have to claim gaming every 3 min or some shit

[lost depot]

You literally can't tell which boat is which, all the numbers overlap, you can't tell which pirate is in which boat

[scenic locust]

all the ships bunch together and you can't tell what's going on to make micro optimizations to move some ships to other places

[spice meadow]

Yeah, i dont like that

[pine yacht]

this, plus dragging them all is a pain in the ass when you get more

[scenic locust]

there should be a list view somewhere telling you all your ships, where they're going, and what the total sail time is, and be able to retreat from the list view

[pine yacht]

as well as clicking all the chest

[spice meadow]

Instead of making new worlds, lava could repair things like that, make a huge QOL instead of worlds, making things like this better

[lost depot]

People have done detailed UI mockups of what sailing should look like in player-suggestions but I reckon it's too much work for lava to justify so we're stuck with it forever probably

[spice meadow]

But, i probably am the only one who thinks that

[granite grove]

yeah but qol doesnt make lava as much money nor generate much hype

[lost depot]

Tons of people think this but the dev time it would take to fix sailing and trapping is the same it would take to make 2 whole new skills

[spice meadow]

It would helo new players and endgamers

[lost depot]

He could do this if he employed other devs, but as a solo dev its impossible

[spice meadow]

Not only end-mid

[lost depot]

As far as Lava is concerned sailing functions, so that's good enough

Project management is about compromises

Maybe some time in the future Idleon will make enough money for a 2nd dev to be brought on to fix UI issues

[spice meadow]

I think it already makes enough money

Idleon has a lot of whales

[pine yacht]

it does, but lava is greedy, so he rarely outsources let alone plans on adding someone on the team to share the revenue with

[granite grove]

he has yet to credit ppl who helped ported idleon to ios nor the translator team

[lost depot]

thats not great

[spice meadow]

Thats sad

[untold lintel]

he wants it to stay as just a “solo made game” doesn’t wanna ruin the that ego i assume

[granite grove]

like lava, just credit them, you still can maintain "solo dev" status since you made 95%+ of the game

[storm kelp]

I increeased my shiny prayer too much, now I don't get shinies... what do i do to rectify it without disarming the prayer I mean?

[granite grove]

sadly cant downgrade prayer levels

[pine yacht]

a lot of people left not because they hated the game, but because they hated how a greedy manchild managed it

[storm kelp]

I know that so what do I do?

[lost depot]

How do we verify if people actually left

[pine yacht]

get shiny chance from every source you can XD

[storm kelp]

too lazy to find it, sooo

[lost depot]

90% of the time such statements are empty threats

[spice meadow]

Yani, dont say that, we are on a public server, i think you can get banned for saying that

[granite grove]

also heard some ppl got banned long ago for spreading the rapid drop trick for alchemy vial unlock when it was new

[lost depot]

Dropping multiple items at once?

[granite grove]

or that one guy who was banned for steam screen steam which is basically playing pc from phone (unbanned fortunately)

[pine yacht]

the discord at the very least

[spice meadow]

It was not intended?

[granite grove]

yes, basically just drop really fast

[pine yacht]

people got banned by a lot less, so it's pointless trying to walk on eggs

[granite grove]

it is intended now, its even a common knowledge to drop things rapidly to get vial unlocks

[spice meadow]

...it is?

[fallen torrent]

Good morning!

[spice meadow]

Good morning!

[pine yacht]

ye, because RNG will otherwise eat your vial attempts

[granite grove]

dont tell me just dropping item fast is considered as a game breaking exploit

if so, might as well as play idleon handicapped with 1 cps

[fallen torrent]

it is considered an exploit...and Rule 4

talking about that here isnt a good idea just to let you know.

[spice meadow]

Remember when you could leave sailing to keep the chests?

[pine yacht]

it's been there since w2 and everyone did it, if he started reseting people for that he'd take a huge hit to profit

[fallen torrent]

Banhammer might be close to you

[tall horizon]

You heard wrong, thats not considered an exploit but the way its meant to function.

[fallen torrent]

he wont reset everyone

[granite grove]

fair i guess

[fallen torrent]

you are meant to have 18 attempt per day, not more so it is an exploit..

[tacit tulip]

Definitely could do with some indication in game, nothing actually suggests you can do it

[spice meadow]

An intended exploit!

[fervent yew]

Whats the point of the rng buff then if it just uses your same attempts

[fallen torrent]

@tall horizon i was wondering for my alch bubble i got 42 tries per days but i dont know wich one to go for now

[pine yacht]

he probably unintentionaly made RNGs use up the attempts and never bothered to fix it

[tall horizon]

🤷 #player-suggestions

[tacit tulip]

The wiki doesn't even mention it haha

[fallen torrent]

uh

[fallen torrent]

https://icyfoxkiller.idleonefficiency.com/

[spice meadow]

@tacit tulip , your pfp seems like the guard dog from undertale

[fallen torrent]

i wanna know where do i hit my Atomized bubble now

[spice meadow]

Thats cool

[fervent yew]

It's the monster hunter rise companion doggo, isn't it?

[tacit tulip]

It's from the MHRise guide page - which is (poorly) hand drawn by one of the characters https://www.monsterhunter.com/rise/us/hunting-guide/

[spice meadow]

Oh lol

[pine yacht]

Nice

[fallen torrent]

Sakori psssttt

im thinking of boosting up Bob Bubble, but im also wondering if i up my mage eff bubble for better sample i aint sure no more right now

[tacit tulip]

Can always do half of both

[fallen torrent]

but my bubble of mage barely upgrade of 1% with like 20-30 atomization

idk wich bubble of mage i should focus on now 😮

mage is best? Hocus Choppus? Le brain tools?

Also Brewstachio (brew speed) agument the speed of liquid speed too or just for bubble?

[granite grove]

normal cauldron, not liquids

[fallen torrent]

okay tought so

[jagged charm]

Brew speed, I think effects exp gain even if they're assigned to liquid

[fallen torrent]

ohh

cause my brewstachio is lv 151 xD (30%)

[spice meadow]

Brewstachio is not worth

[fallen torrent]

kinda tought so, wich is why the bubble is not even yet atomizable xD

Time to get Socrates. last eldritch i need! (thats useful) i might need 1 more or two after

yup, meal artifact/shiny pet artifact left after

[rapid python]

sailing question, lets say i had 8-9 ships on island 1 filling up quickly on chests, and 3 ships going very slowly on island mushroom (want fury relic). I have the talent that upgrades chests. Will my 9 faster ships on island 1 fill up all my chests with island 1 chests, such that when my slower island mushroom ships come back, they dont actually deliver mushroom chests, but instead upgrade island 1 chests?

[fallen torrent]

if your first chest fills up the place of your chest storage first yeah. you are wasting boats on the mush island

[spice meadow]

The talent that upgrades chests inst very good

[rapid python]

ok, im going to move all boats to mush island just so i can collect there, even if they are super slow

[rapid python]

ill respec out of it soon then

[fallen torrent]

why isnt it good mori thats a question i'll always ask myself

i wake up and claim 10hr+ of afk and they make 20 trips to islands each boats almost.

[spice meadow]

The scaling is small, real small

[fallen torrent]

i wouldve get 29 chest adn then the rest does nothing just goes to waste. why wouldnt it be good?

[spice meadow]

Dont depend on it

[fallen torrent]

always used it and never had any issue or anything

[spice meadow]

Well, it is passive

But not huge

Just that

[fallen torrent]

always claiming 2-3hours so my boats gets more than 29 chest

so might as well use the talent to give me maybe better chest

well i put 1 lv in it just to get the bonus lvl from artifact/talent etc..

[spice meadow]

Well, i just speak by the tutorials that i watch

Im not really into especifics/coding