#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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Thanks not at computer
same for green for archers and purple for mages
Thanks that clears things up
Im just saying
My main dies in 1 hit in w5
ofc they die, u are weak
Than how am i supposed to make progress ;-;
most fresh w5 players die
I could progress in w5 like 3 months into w5
check out Trickz' guides in pins, has good "catch-up" tips too
if u actualy read what i said u would have known
are there any CoC TD layouts?
but apparently u didnt even bother to read, just found an excuse
no reason to be so harsh just because someone is asking for advice
w3-w4 and w5 pins don't have any
Check out the masterlist in #1084911530417606656 has updated equinox td builds
remember there is a person on the other side of the computer friend
I did for a fact read what u said im prob too tired to understand ;-;
i mean, when someone quote what u say and ask a question that was already answered in what i said........ it clearly means he didnt even take the time to read
What is a mman
but anywho, just keep enjoying the game, all in its time
Maestro
you need more lvls on bubble II
Yeah im too stupid to understand the thing they tried to explain sorry.
clogs not dropping why?
i do, my alchemy is pretty bad for as long as i've played, i just finally figured out "hourly clicks" but that doesn't help cuz I typically play 15 mins a day on weekdays haha
bad rng
should get around 1/h
i use atoms only
bad dr
x7 DR btw
pain
more candy pump
Go reavt with
in #๐read-me
yeah, all my samples are going to vial mats right now, then i'll go back to massive atom gain... kinda going back and forth sometimes
Its endgame channel
oh that's why
just capped the gmush vial, so further gmush will go into this. i'm a slow player been around since w3 was final boss haha
ah early game
I am here since w4
the last month or two i've been more active
i played alot at beggining which give me advantage of midgame acc
You need more than that
but overall i mostly just "checked in" daily
Also adventage of afk % keychains and afk wings
which got replaced by golden rose
i believe one day there will be better chains
but now
likely, and worse ones too XD
If itโs not doing it in 2 hrs means you need to do it in a higher number
new people doesn't have those 22% afk gains
98% of my playtime
22% + 11% wings or 13% rose
i dont think I know the afk keychains you speak of
So if im going to ha e to push with my mman
Im probaply gonna need a crap ton more damage.
Rn the max kph i can get is 700
wait, steam release ones? cuz I don't have those
sometimes if you spend like a day or two catching up, you'll be able to double your gains in your "push", thereby losing no time and being better off in general
yeah I def don't have those
well it was 9%
What things should I be doing while waiting for W6?
Equinox stuff, deathnote, ruby cards, grind time
yeah my time candy keychan is a total of 5%
My equinox is at a stand still...All time gated stuff
Once i have emporor opal on everyone do i dump flurbos on anything besides t3 keychains
Or t3 keychain all day
what stuff? is it stuff you can work towards?
Guys, I was upgrading my Larry bubble but I did the math and I still need 300+ lvls to get it to 101% and I get 4 upgrades' worth of atoms everyday... Should I give up for now and focus on other bubbles?
@hollow rain you need more atoms to level up boron more, larry needs to level 510 as soon as possible
Cogs, lucky lad on beginner, ladles, level 500 on everyone, and getting 100 pickles
cogs is easy it's just tedious as shit
cogs/lucky lad are pretty easy
@jagged relic cogs is annoying but takes a few hours with both DK on ulti cogs. time candy on dreadlo ore for lucky lad. the other 2 are hard
cogs is quick if you put both DKs in cog construction, you get like 1 per second
just stick vman on dreadlo ore and candy, shouldn't take toooooo much
So nothing I can really do about any of it. Everyone to 500 I'll wait till W6. I'll do that DK thing now, I didn't think of that
Ahhh I put him mining copper and then g mush but I'll do the dreadlo now, I didn't know that was the best way
mela is right, it is tedious, but you just keep clicking to make the cogs, then delete everything that isn't purple double, rinse and repeat
oh, do coins just delete themselves after 100 godshard? or is the display just broken? lol
it displays the next digit
its moves the decimal over
ah whew
check ie or it for actual money
new coin soon 
marble coins!
jk with world 6 likely
has anyone maxed Myriad crate? and if so, how do you do that without your finger falling off?
Im 100% sure it has been maxed before
Finger pain for days
On phone its not that bad
You dont have to move your finger very far and its just taps
my clicky finger already has pain issues because i've been working on a computer for 20+ years and it really hurts
yeah mobile is the move for PO
i basically don't scroll wheel anymore, i use keyboard hotkeys instead
What did he mean by "if u had 1 active ES farming the things thaf will massivly boost ur acc"?
Im trying my hardest to understand what he said but i fr cant
well left laddles at 750/h, now addressing money, which char did u guys said I should afk on mushs?
I dont know what you are refercing but having a geared ES to farm rare drops and materials is very handy
This
^pretty much for stamps/achemy
yeah, he's assuming you have a class unlocked that you clearly don't have because you just got there
? es is a w4 class
ES is my main
I just dont get it
Got lucky lad already....wasted like 10 days but oh well thanks for that
i also misread the question 
gratz!
welcome to the reading hard gang, its rough out here
how many waves do I need to get squishy souls?
Can i join
at least 10 waves i think
everyone is defaulted to it but yes!!
basically that guy earlier was being a bit troll-y so I didn't put much effort into caring what he was saying after that
reading hard||ly||
Sorry guys just to make sure because there is a lot going on in the chat and eng iSNT my main language, ES afk on mushs for +cash%, right?
But so i just farm for stamps and alchemy?
Any specifics?
@young blade ES or SB. SB doesnt do as many useful things as ES so i think people default to siege breaker
I heard someone say stamps
this guide in pins is solid #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
probably all, but the ones that would likely benefit u the best are skilling related ones
uh oh, i summoned the stamp guy 
boost stamps 
there is a stamp guy-?? Oml-
Stamp grind never ends
there are certain ppl dedicated/known for certain specialties in this game
technically stamps will reach an endpoint if you play long enough
rash happens to get into stamp wars
its hard capped by carry cap
rip totetsu
What about the discount?
Thats a big oof
I defeated all challengers ๐ฆ there is nothing left
ashes... all of em
Still hard capped by carry capacity.
Damn
Someone will get mason jar stamp to level 400 and have their next upgrade cost 20 million glass shards
Does the discount work on the carry cap stamp?
yup
Nice
But so like.
Do i put all characters into divinity or do i keep 1 active???
Im confused now
Always have 1 active if you can
U can do 1 active
this is my block: I hate dungeons
Dungeons are fun
r50 is a guarantee lol
Even by yourself
cant recall the last time i failed
The only reason r40 isnt guaranteed is the 50/50 on coin flip
Its the same thing for killroy for some tho. If u ignored doing it ur hurtin rn
Pickle locked 
i'm r43, so not bad for a lazy player, but still i've never seen 4th grandfrogger go down ever
same at r40
Do you reset for coinflip?
If lava added pickles to the limited shop Iโd buy them 
For foal
that seems... very unlikely
Skill issue
i haven't really bothered to learn the right way to do it so I probably did not have foal, what does that do again?
you must be doing something wrong tbh
100 pickles for 100,000 gems
Legit skill issue
its the crit one
foal is giant crit/damage buff but you miss if you don't crit
i wasn't doubting your rank, but at r43 you should be able to defeat 4th solo fairly regularly
Happy to see someone who talks won
yeah, bein lazy ๐
ah lol
I see so many lurkers win all the contests lol
never lucky
ok so do I want foal on all 3 of those dungons?
is that the w3 mayor?
i won a flame cape in december lol
I've been at 14/15 chems for like 2 weeks
2 not rly for some challenges
Yeah are you my prince?
Or too lazy to do my quest 
the tree quest is too mush of a pain
so clooooose
Iโve been sitting on 20 for two days now
you might have it from other sources already, have you checked the skill tab?
That hurts
yeah im at 300 with all buffs, but i want this to be 300 just cuz, i like how neat it is
I put so much effort in for the last Chem plant
Took me like 5 minutes to get 15 Chems with doot 
Lucky
Just claimed my lab characters afk and prayed for gaming
Everytime I see someone mention doot I hear my wallet whispering dark urges to me
what...? you have lab chars with doot
700 bucks though man
Ok so I wanna use DK and quit if I don't get foal right? any other requirements that I might not know because I never paid attention?
Div levels and Iโm already done with eclipses and such
Not sure where else they would go
Getting all alts from 105-110 to 140 Smithing taking forever ๐ฆ
Besides gmush lol
Nope, thats pretty much it. Foal will carry you to the win. Try to get crit chance on wep until 100%
Dr on rings/pendant if you have issues getting the eyes for frog
Just gotta get luckier
Trickz, do you have a guide/info doc/ pin write up for improving prints? i know certain bubbles are better bbut i must not being searching the right guide words through discord
Thought the Crit chance only went up to 20% on the weapon upgrades
I stopped at 130, i should push higher
did anyone do math for artifact chances from chests ? esp eldrich ?
i'll take a stab at it because I don't think I've ever thought to pick foal and up crit chance before, I've only ever read it and thought it sounded lame because of missing
I meant 100% total crit
I end up using my luck on other things
i dont think my stamps are that good yet-
Used a cosmic candy on tvs to get batteries for splicer
Oh okay my
And got 498 hours
My bad**
that might be something you can go back and do the ones you get from quests while you're waiting on your divinity
all good
if you interpreted it that way, chance others did as well. So good for clarification
wow
that... is depressing ๐ฆ
Not much besides some comments on this:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message and the link within this link
**or while typing this i saw i posted this too: **#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
PS: I typically try to give more detailed answers a proper header with some tag search terms in the title, so things are often easy to find under my name imo
https://i.imgur.com/IVeY2Me.png
I know-
Rashaken whats your total stamp level?
Is this... a competition? ๐
Appreciate it, Sample.. got, i was stuck on Prints
Depend how close you are to all at 130+
Well, all alts around 105ish but got 2x to 140 and 3rd one nearly 140. just going through them 1 by 1
Initial goal was 150 then i realized how damn slow this is.
all of mine are 130 min, with archers/vman at 140/153/163
Yeh archers will easily get the 150s
Unlocking construct mastery really fucked up my refinery items ngl
I wish, capped at 100% ๐ฆ
Mind sharing your stamps (all at once pic) IE
Level 128 mason jar is sexy
Got any tips for my 90% discount?
I dont have cap for multitool, could do 1 more crystallin ig then just pure focus on Mason Jar?
https://i.imgur.com/ilYDaFn.png
If I wanted to farm glass shards should I do it on DK for the statues or just ES to get max glass?
DK
you're also gonna wanna pump catching carry cap/mason for 210 multitool
might as well get two things out of the way
ugh, brain working faster than my hands typing lol
Iโm looking to Chase 210 multi soon
So I wasnโt sure if I should just use ES for more glass
you'll need ~120 mason 180 catch cap stamps
can get it lower, depending on skill levels
going to be a rough grind when most slowly require the 90% atom
yup
on the plus side, a lot of things can be pumped up without it though, carry cap stamps can get decently high before needing to use atom as well
the cooking stamp pretty decent as a multi?
Decent, flouride kinda overpowered everything else tbh lol
After doing the 15 chem plants I have been stuck in a loop for over an hour. Been trying to go to bed. HELP?!
Chem looping, you can spend hours on end doing it
was down to 3 and thought it was over but now I am here again
so... dont start if you dont have time ๐
but I just finished the 15 chem thingy and I want to swap back to slow rock mode before bed lol
just keep kitsune tbh
Wonder how important cooking still is, getting close to half at 60 especially with the new random event equi buff itll be a bunch easier too
how does the free game in log work?
not worth swapping back and forth
like what does it do?
I got to ~70% crit chance but so overwhelmed by all the drops and resource management that I had no time left after 3rd boss
I'll try again and see if I navigate it a bit better
rng, just click
sell all is your best friend lol
yeah probably true but then I would need to check more often and I don't want to stress over gaming lol. But maybe still better to level up shell as well...
I mean how does log scale with levels?
I kept getting shit upgrades, I musta gotten like 10% mastery for weapon like 15 times
Thats fair, Its difficult for me to not think from an endgame perspective tbh. Meals are just one of the things I can still focus so it seems more important to me lol
if possible, can anyone browse through my idleon effic? Aside from stamps (I have no money), is there anything that I'm forgetting? I feel stuck, waiting for relics to progress further. Currently waiting for nullo salts to make troll gear for everyone, but these darn void ores are so annoying to get, so my characters gear all suck lol.
yaaaa, crit chance feels like one of the more rare rolls lol. I often just get any crit % and stop, then relying on rngs for the rest
oh the stamps didnt update but I just upgraded them all
also, dont lock yourself out of upgrading wep tiers, do that before rolling crit chance
i'll give it another stab and see if i have better rng and less panic
Restart Dungeon until you get Horn of the Foal
Turn on Auto, equip Weapon. maybe pick up the basics.
Buy trinkets until you have at least 1 neck/ring.
Buy trinket enchants and roll for Drop rate on both (or a very high +Money from mobs)
Early on ignore Weapon Damage but rather go for a higher weapon tier. Always focus on DR drops.
This will already help a bunch.
yeah that's basically the direction Rash has been pointing me, I've just been to lazy to ever bother to learn this stuff before
f this goodnight
Its one of those things you need to get a feel for. It will eventually become just routine to do the stuff
Please do mine while you're at it, it's just some t6's ?
https://i.imgur.com/4Kf0dnk.png
I siad goodnight!
yeah, like every other frickin thing in the game lol
here I am wanting chems to pop up ๐ฆ
gn
be careful what you wish for...
๐
that blog update today is massive... NOT
Dont overthink stuff when you pick up orbs and things. All you do is "is it yellow or purple -> Nope, does it have DR? -> Nope.. Then there's only 2-3 basic ones that can help a bunch more
didnt notice
oh.. the sarcasm :/
Had hopes for something big
my bad
i mean it's fine, it shows lava is hard at work making every pixel in w6 six times as good
and lava if you're reading this, keep up the good work 
Is a spoiler for ants
There's so many paths of improvement in this game I LOVE It. Been playing since the relesase casually(and with a few stops) and still finding new stuff
can anyone point me in a good direction for stamps/bubbles to focus on? i'm working on monster mats for max vials #26 and 27 for double statues, then i'm gonna go back and focus more on stamps/alch for W6. https://lord_narhan.idleonefficiency.com/
quick slap, slap that
No reason not to push your stamps with those low costs yet high samples.
Samples def. need work, vman should be the only one needed for mob drops. Especially with all those empty spots atm.
Alchemy is lackluster
Quite a few printable material bubbles you can get to atoms to push out of the way of nblb
Go down this rabbit hole: #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
a lot is the same for you, just with slightly different numbers atm
Thanks, i'll look into that. I recently cleared out Vman samples to resample for vials, that's why half are empty :p
Wanna start getting thread and/or nails too for those vials since they'll take a while
Iโm keen for more new bubbles and meals, also for last two divinityโs to do something too
I'd like new meals, but dont expect them tbh
Should I greenstack the last three anvil items first? That's been my main focus for anvil atm.
Probably depends how many you already have
Damage becomes negligible, and if you're not very close to 200 for equinox then the vial boosts probably would serve better
ok, cool. thanks. I'll also finish off my anvil points from monster mats...forgot about a few of those 
the meals feel like a "when lava wants to finish off cooking"
those extra 100 or so immediate plat levels should zoom cooking a bit again
I donโt feel like any skills are finished tbh. Although we dont have any w5 trappingโฆ
But i feel like all of them (even cooking) are going to be relevant into w8
lab is kinda finished - there's room for more gems but that won't really change how we use it
Thatโs true
sailing is probably finished too, unless he adds another map for some reason
how much damage should i aim for to push w5?
another tier of artifact, 100x rarer than eldritch
if you're portal pushing, unless you really need something ahead, you should only be pushing if you can MK the mobs
that might take a while ๐
yeah. that's common ๐
1bil would probably be okay for pushing but you'll probably want 30-50bil for doing the bosses
There's a lot of emphasis on going back to work on your w1-4 skills to improve your account once you're in w5
some people will just facewall their way to kattle with like 50m admage and be mad it took so long
I mean im sure you could push with 100mil, itll just be slow
Alchemy and stamps primarily, sec let me move to my pc so I can steal trickz's guide
always
makes sense
ok damn, got quite a bit to be doing then lol
Yup, you're realistically at the start of the game where you have to really think about what you're doing ๐
The more you achieve now the better position you'll be in when w6 comes out
skill levels are really comfy now too
woo damage
Honestly itโs not that bad to get high dmg. damage starts stacking faster and faster because of all the % dmg scattered throughout the game once your in world 5, itโs just a game of catch up. I went from 1mil to 2000mil in like a month in a half once I started catching up and Iโm not even caught up with gear yet I still have everyone running Dementa gear.
the most daunting thing is just picking things and doing them lol
with there being so much
Finally got 1b damage
Celebrate good times, come on ๐ต
Ah shit I came to crystal island on my skilling preset
Gonna take a year to kill these mfs
Where do I farm pop obols at?
Gigas
Yeah it gets insane. Realised I had a guy without blanket and equipping it jumped my damage by 400m
last map of w1
Am I doing something very wrong with Divinity? It's been a couple of days trying to unlock the snake god and fails every time
Make sure you do it with ES tho
Best thing is to roll low until the 100% pops up then save for that
Is dk fine or no?
Alright thanks
Dk gonna get way less Pop Obols
ES portal skill is much better then dk
With obol farming as well, you can only get 1 max per afk claim yeah?
Just 100 on portal for me is 1300% more drop
Is there a suggested time to check in to maximise drops?
Active play is best
Ok thanks Dire
do we have an idea of when?
And best way to farm frags?
My guy traveled to pen island for those
It requires 1b for lvl 13??????
You only get on obol per afk claim so itโs a must to farm active basically
yesir
Jesus
yup
Crystal farming Iโm pretty sure
most of them gets pretty easy once you have enough samples/harriep
anything that was material based i just printed... now for monster xd mats it was mostly farmed
though vman with sampling helped
Not really, it's the next major update but
that means we can have minor updates first
we've not seen any of the w6 skills in lavas channels yet. Suggests we're not close to ready.
Late december would be my guess, so time with christmas spending like w5 was. Could easily be later if it's not ready yet
Iโm not sure the most efficient map to do obol fragment farming but crystal farming for me fills my inventory with obols in an hour or two, with a mix of copper and silver obols
Alrighty, I don't have choc chip yet but have a few cards to boost rates
I donโt either
its time
whats a good map to bubo on, mine cant really deal with w5 yet
soda cans
thxx
second last W4 is better
Do floms. Much better
time for what, statue depost? cuz you want more vials than just the snek vial maxed out first, just checkin so you didn't regert later
anyone ever post a guide for their bubo build?
Iโm sure heโs good with that itโs at 100% already
Which ones? ๐ฎ
wdym its already 100%
Yeah heโs good ๐
any, see pins for Trickz' onyx guide to see exactly how many I think 27?
Yeah i thought you meant other than getting snek to 100+%
Yes, you must get others maxed in addition to snek
Did you even look at the pic you reacted to. That vial is at 100% already lol
26 maxed out vials
I think youโre typing faster than you read ๐
Its 27
yes I did notice that vial was already at 100, and I wanted to point out that you want MORE than just that ONE vial maxed
He has more than that 1 maxed
it'll only show 100% if you have the 26~7 vials maxed
You literally can't get it to 100% without having at least 27 maxed
๐คญ
I understand now!
fixed the image.
Seen people deposit everything then ask why they didn't get as much as they expected then go OH NO and regerts, just tryin to help ๐
nah im going full tryhard im even going level by lvl to take advantage of startue exp
t6 plants possible?
T7 is possible
i have chems already, and i'm positive that wasn't legit
That bug was fixed
are you sure? in any case id rather not even test it
its already at ~200 statues per deposit ill be done soon
I tested now the bar actually goes up
tou could test with a shitty statue but it werks
also I think I may have walked in a guy having an acid trip in here
fun
Acid trips are the best way to interact with this discord
I gotta try that sometime

That would explain the reading comprehension issues people have

Yeah unfortunately I dont think acid is required to make people unable to read 
let's you randomly stumble on this ie profile that totally isn't mine, would you say that "sticking 7 people in the lab with goat god for divinity levels" be a good strategy? just supposedly
unlimited super reacts agrees lol
A friend of a friend asked me you know
Is it always better to go for XP with directionnal cogs ?
Do I switch a 60% DR with a 34% XP ? It gives me 3% bonus xp and remove 10% of my total build rate
Its something that you'll want done at some point sure but pushing div levels is usually more of a minmax thing after you already have all gods and tranqi unlocked on everyone. Also why 7 when you only need 6 in lab lol
that's what someone else told the friend of a friend to do ๐คญ
I feel like where you're at you would be better off with either harrieps for atom production or arctis if you have stuff you want to farm
Let tranqi get levels in the mean time
yeah I'm thinking that too. it wouldn't hurt switching some for goat to get those extra levels, finish unlocking the last chip slot and do give a buff on my very lacking sampling
halloween treats is raining down premium hats on me but not the one i want -.-
beautiful
last day of event, should i pop a couple of gold watches to see if i luck into getting one of three missed hats? or save for chrimbus event
yesss, after 12 gemshop purchases
or even just stick them in the lab with harriep for prints honestly. I finished pushing skill levels with everyone for better tools and i don't really have that much else for them to do for now ๐ค
you should do what I'm doing. I'm saving all mine for the end of the event so I get disappointed only at one time
ive gotten like 3 bandit bob ones too so rngesus doesnt like me
got a few more also
does this event even gives cards? I think that maybe if it does and you're missing completing some sure but otherwise I don't think it is worth it
the falloween pumpkin is it, and already at blue so i can cardify it if i ever want that, but yeha
yeah, maybe save it for one event like the valentines that had multiple wings and stuff
also if you're needing the candies I guess the threats are very good too
oh, I've also farmed chizoar "a little" this weekend
mmmm afk keychains
i need to do dungeon again and see if i can get some better keychains for samples n such
I didn't even notice that o had exactly 800 gems. I just stopped at 1100 kills. now I have "only" 600+
you can get some from killroy too
dungeon rolls
Quite the coincidence that your vman has the same name as your friends vman 
i need to go do a speed run, and man i dont want to
i only ever buy balls from killroy tbh
oh shit
Exposed
haha what we talking about here?
those damn stalkers digging up all the info that I left clearly in the open ๐
@sacred verge this
7/20 here, i suppose i could do the rest of those
thx
oh yeah i started like 3 days ago farming hard on it
i need to work mine hard sometime soon ๐ฆ maybe after i finish off the wurm vial and can filter slices without feeling bad about myself
140/144 first liquid 126/130 second liquid 133/134 third liquid
farm more with liquidinvestment first
Hey ! I was wondering between SB and BM how do they compare in afk farming for DN ?
get to this then its GT
deathnote
oh. SB all the way
Also dang daln, i did farm alchemy a lot but not to that high ๐ฎ
back to lvling it up, is your cauldron all draconic?
sadly the answer is not BM 99% of the time
Hum I was wondering mostly if I should put my BM on Nobi or if it's useless since he gets so much less kph than sb
only first one
BM is kinda.. ugh
is it posible to fit a void tower in this strat?
beefmaster, aka bowel movement, aka big madge
@sacred verge how many days have you been farming alch on for? ๐ฎ
started farming when i got max liquidinvestment
been farming from then untill now more or less
82k/100k ladle! cant wait
up to 300 is pretty quick tbh
I've been using pancake's TD guides he's been writing up in endgame and just pushing as far as I can with those tbh
He has 1 up for alll of them except w5
i did have some quick improvement but like, i was getting 5 level or so overnight
with the Water lab off
for now i dont think i will be going any higher untill i get the sigil
almost have golden Treasure chest
GT all the way now
200 samples and 1b sample size are my goals now
bean slices are vialed!
to the next!
friendly reminder buy you bob pickle joe and check your equinox!!
give me a billi sample too pls
909 days til i get lvl 3 vial
560m is my max now
errr 200 greenstacks, woops
ive had a fair bit of alch growth since the last time i did sampling, but yeah i imagine ill have less gains than i was hoping for. i forget if i had ruby cards for then either so maybe thatll be bigger than i expected
i forgot what green stack giving, dmg right?
i need to GS lot more too, im at 124
but theres easy material i got under 10m by vialing with em
so easy mats to get
i need to get the snake skins up for 1 billi soi can get the vial up
gonna get a print on everyone for that and just have em do it for a bit
i guess before i do samples again i wanna make sure i have this goofy necklace from kruk handled
Mob mat vials either just farm them with ES or get vman samples on speedruns
and probably finish off some w4 mob vials, should maybe put BM on printing that instead of waiting til i active ES again
SB has 3x the damage my ES and DK did and they ripped this rift up, and hes just... deeerrrrrrr
Damage doesn't mean alot for the afk rifts unless the damage pushes you into MK tiers
na its the map clear one
es has incredible map clear, sb...not so much
Oh, well yeah that's even easier to explain - ES and DK have map-wide skills
SB doesn't
hes got decent range on a couple of them, figured theyd do a little better than they are given the damage disparity
Nah SB active clear doesn't come close
Both ES and DK can consistently hit most of the zone most of the time
bubo is the other clear winner for map coverage
my bubo cant do anything, not enough damage for poison to do what it needs
wonder if i swap gear if my other ES or DK can clear it
that's what i did for one of those 
This feels accurate
bubo very much needs decent work into alch i think to shine. mine still has fairly mid gear but after hardfocusing alch ended up getting into wurms territory pretty quick
Even without that, Aura pulls a lot of weight on bubo in W5.
oh he wrecks w5, its the rift he cant do
Gotcha
Which wurm territory you talkin'
final zone
Because there's wurms, then there's wurms with all 3 prayers active
oh fair enough, i think i only have 2 active, i can go check
You need around 70b ish min damage to 1 tick wurms with the prayers
which 3 prayers do you mean? i think i run beefy and multi but unsure what other would make it harder. i guesss midas?
Now awful, but yeah takes time to go
Gotta find the TD tip and trick for placment
class exp, money and DR prayers. Alll of them increase mob health by around 1200% each when maxed
ah
class exp i heard was pretty much just useless assuming any sort of GT investment since its just additive
and yeah i suppose i could equip money, i ust use something like this on all my dudes active farming
could remove the skill thing since i dont need that, but am lazy
Not using the money prayer while active on bubo is a bit of a misstep, his whole thing in money
If you're doing bubo or DK on the last map of W5, I'd always have money prayer on if you can handle it.
dk far outclasses bubo in money gains now sadly
I allso stopped worrying about beefy, turns out it's not quite as beefy eventually
i think i clicked the button too many times 
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Wow +100 atoms
holy shit lmao
im crying over having my midas minded costing 4m for the last levels
I should probably click that a few times since I pushed that TD to 150 earlier
time for me to get off this game and go to Talos Principle 2 you guys have fun!
well, cleared that one, lets see how far i can push to ruby
What build rate do I need to be getting 150 on the TD games
Build rate?
should just be based on stamps/meals and tower lvls. and the equi thing ofc
Yeah feel like that makes more sense then asking for levels because the levels give me no grasp of how much build rate I need to get them
"from: pancakex. guide in: endgame-talk" search for that if you want to see builds that will push TD high, there are no numbers on what the minimum tower level for each is though
i havent pushed them in a few weeks i dont think, but im at 90m/hr and last got to 140 wave on acorn assault fairly easily
...What does build rate have to do with getting to waves on tower defence
I think they're imagining that higher build rate allows you to reach higher tower levels, but it's definitely a more complicated relationship than that (slower speed but longer time will get you to the same tower levels, trimmed slots change things up, etc.)
Higher BR = higher/faster tower construction levels = more damage and cost reduction = directly applicable to succeeding in TD?
looking forward to spamming the build rate per cons lvl bubble when its in atom range, kinda close ish to the 1250 cons mastery thing but that wont be particularly explosive as much as bubble will be
You could have 4T build rate, doesn't mean anything if you're not building towers
The level of your towers is what matters
That and atom, cannoli and equinox
Pretty safe assumption tbh
Nah not really
I've been doing shrines for the last 3 months for example instead after I parked all my towers (except void) at 62
TD stopped mattering until equinox since pushing anything beyond 160-170 was just not a thing
...Honestly after the desaster of failing to beat wave 50 on Cans, I'm begining to wonder how I'm getting /worse/ at TD.
Is a little awkward, cus the existing guides are always like, miles too low or miles too advanced. >.<
Thx ๐
Why do the last pets in a world have a "next pet chance"? What happens if you actually roll the next pet?
find out
it's a lot of investment to get this to a reasonable chance ๐
what else to do with eggs? hatch hedghogs? pfft
exp and stronger pets
shouldnt this be more than 2%?
0.66 x 134 innit
Close enough
big difference lol
Funny the description is wrong then
im halfway there ๐ซก
me when 2% increase ๐คฏ
yeah, it is odd. 1.0066^134 is 2.41, which as a percentage is 241%. Except the actual value is off by a factor of 100, and they convert decimal to percentage without doing the proper conversion, so you get 2% only
am i missin something or this talent is simply bad
Lava tweaked that skill in some way shortly after it was released
The talent is phenomenal. It scales really hard when you get more meals.
nah the talent scales like crazy
Its weak early on, but incredible as you get more meal levels
i see
800+ it starts to ramp
Itโs cause the decimal is in the %
You could say it gets better lalter yeah
Itโs .66%

Stopped for dinner but finally gottem just now ๐
Thanks for reminding me to jiggle my vman tho, missing 20 levells in that
It also depends on talent level, scales faster the higher talent level you are 
wait thats 217B not 2178 
nice congrats!
so close
Man, discord's wild
What are you using to solo this? I haven't even bothered trying yet
DK, bubo, ES and vman are all pretty easy
Get Dk -> get horn -> get some critt chance -> cruise
i have 120 checkouts, do i try to save em until i get the library atom upgrades?
How do you make sure you don't run out of spawning mats?
Kill all the mobs innit
ik but my range is 120-155 which is ehh
So you want coin flip at the beginning of the dungeon to get horn of the foal, DK, crit chance on weapon and drop on ring/pendant if you need drop
Do you even have the 1k checkout? Or nah
nah
if you dont have the 1k achieve you should be burning them as fast as you can really
itโs still worth using
i avoided it for so long myself. This is what Trickz typed out earlier: Restart Dungeon until you get Horn of the Foal
Turn on Auto, equip Weapon. maybe pick up the basics.
Buy trinkets until you have at least 1 neck/ring.
Buy trinket enchants and roll for Drop rate on both (or a very high +Money from mobs)
Early on ignore Weapon Damage but rather go for a higher weapon tier. Always focus on DR drops.
This will already help a bunch.
+10 levels for 1k checkouts
ight then
Also turns out 20 levels in vman cooking is quite significant, who'd have guessed
Extremely significant every level
Didnโt mean to reply to you my bad
No
with exponents, even a seemingly 0.1% increase is a massive final net increase so yeah
any tips for the other 2 dungons or just more of the same and git good?
w3 dungeon is the same
w2 dungeon is... a lot to try to explain
its much slower, unlimited time, but more complex
nod
check the wiki
ive done it some but it's been a while
More complex? I just did what I di with w1 but on w2 while doing the things it told me to do
if it's just a matter of doing the thing in the wiki, i can handle reading up on that without explainations
not sure what you mean exactly, but if you had 1 meal, how much cooking speed would you expect to get from the description? You'd probably say 0.66%, but it's not. 0.66% gets converted to 0.0066, it does 1.0066^1, and then converted back to a percentage without multiplying and you get 0.0066% with only 1 meal. As far as I'm concerned that is not consistent with the wording on the ability
itโs probably a rounding error knowing lava. And yeah, the wording is very very bad
agreed! in the whole game ๐
Lava has never been known as a strong mathematician or communicator.
100.66% is 1.0066x, it's just a different way of expressing it
The multiplicative part is ambiguous I'll give you that
Especially when he uses the same word to mean "it is its own multiplier after other sources"
not sure what your point is. Converting is fine, but there's a conversion step missing here, where a decimal number is just interpreted as a percentage without multiplying by 100
You get +0.66% cooking speed for 1 meal, it does read fine at that point
0.66% and 0.0066 are the same thing, but the problem is going from 0.0066 to 0.0066% which is off by a factor of 100, an is what is happening with the ability
Sllightly easier to read when you get it higher and it goes over 1%
you don't, yuou get 0.0066% cooking speed for 1 meal
No, you get 0.66%
it's not true lol, that's my point
It in fact multiplies your speed by 1.0066, which is 100.66%
if you got 0.66% for 1 meal, you would get to 2% before 4 meals, not 134 meals
you are very wrong
Not really, it's a percentage converted to a code multiplier
Just like +1% is 1.01 as a multiplier
the 1.0066 part is right which is basically extra +0.66%, tho i heard lava somehow divided it by 100 again and make it a double %? heard from other but cant exactly confirm
Itโs bc itโs (1+multiplier)^meals since we have to retain the base value
guys, I know how to convert from percentages to decimals lol.
There is just no possible way to say that with 1 meal you have a 0.66% increase, but with 134 meals you have a 2% increase. That simply cannot possibly be the case
the actual increase with 1 meal, is 0.0066%
it's off by a factor of 100
You can when the meal is a power, not an multiple
okay, what's 0.66% applied 4 times?
It's not applied 4 times
it will be more than, not less than 0.66% multiplied by 4
That's what you've mised
this is fun, im at a stalemate on the worship TD
0.66% is raised to the power of 4
1.0066^134=2.41=241%
though it might be the case of lava applying % twice so like
(1.0066^134)/100 =0.0241=2.41%
or (1 + 0.0066)^4
it also happens with one of golden food bonus
which is what, convert it back to a percentage
one day, before the heat death of the universe, i really want to see how lava did some of this math
Bold of you to assume Lava would convert back ๐
that's what I'm saying is missing. There's a missing conversion back to a percentage, and nobody here gets what I'm saying
it's off by a factor of 100
The calculation is as he intended. The tooltip is what is wrong.
that's fine, that's all I said, is that the wording is wrong
You're right. It is.
It used to apply the value even worse
it's 2.66% for those following along, for the record
It is in fact 0.02% with game logic ๐
unfortunately lava doesnt play his own game so this oversight would easily slip by 
the old texts live on
Yachting season should be just about over though, so he'll probably be spending more time indoors.
he just needs to change the tooltip to put 2 extra 0s in the percentage
and it'll be accurate
yeahhhhhhh that won't happen
odds that lava might accidentally make an equinox CC 2.0 with that tooltip fix
Slightly better odds than him fixing any of the W2 party dungeon bugs
Let's say my barbarian finished all the 100k kills for the chowing. What does he do next? Just sit next to windiw cooking or killing green mushrooms ?
||there is a 100 mil chow bonus from vman||
Is God Rank worth pushing at all? The divinity required for each attempt is wild, to say the least, and I don't know if my fragile heart can take pouring 100,000,000 divinity into a 50% chance and failing more than once.
BB should (generally) always be cooking, with the exception of collecting Zow/Chow/Super Chow. There is never a time they're worth putting on Fungi Pocketer.
More of a placeholder at the moment.
Good to know, because I don't know if I'll ever have the constitution to push much further past 1.
In at rank 3 god right now I stopped because it's insane
I'm*
Don't even think the bonuses worth it
Even the first rank bonus isn't worth it lol
I only did it because I reached a point where I needed lab 1000 totals and appearantly some shrine levels. That's how it hit rank 3
If you happen to get it while leveling Divinity to 80, neat, otherwise forget it exists
Doesn't ES give you damage based on god rank? Is it just super weak? Haven't looked at it much.
Yeah, I was kind of sick of rolling the dice after the last god, honestly. I had a string of bad luck and ended up getting what felt like a combined 300% of failed offering attempts. Gonna be a month or two before I have enough to roll the 50% on the first level.
Yep, it's one of the things you can put points into (God's Chosen Children), that's the only reason I was even looking into it. Gonna just pull them out for now because I stupidly put some in thinking all I had to do was get all the gods initially.
Damn, just looked it up. At 180 points invested, it gives less than 5% per rank. Not at all worth it for the time investment, currently.
God ranks are just a meme.
Do you think this will be called w5 and w6 chat when w6 rolls out
Do you think a whale is going to finish the entirety of w6 in a day
These are the questions that must be askwd
Also no
Probably
Won't be able to candy w6
prob split into w5 and w6, then after w7 then it might be w5/6
this place going to be a barren wasteland when w6 caht is made
New world always has its own chat
Ok thx
W5 chat main for life 
still waiting to be able to kill kruk huh
W3 and 4 nice because they worship me thanks to @vagrant mountain 
thats okay little guy, it will happen eventually
How does one get worshiped in W4 chat lol
everyone just copies buddha's IE
I should do that too 
Yeah lol
If you get Doot you'll blow past me
ur name worked out for this cause buddha
You a hardcore gamer
is this a goated keychain or no
No
its something at least. can check the stats that can be rolled on the wiki
okay, thank you
Tomorrow 
gotta hope for the fomo chains to come back in store
This is goated f2p chain
damn lol. theres p2w chains??
yes
?????
I know all about the goated f2p chains 
u can pay for keychains..?
Yes
how do u get that?
They were in the fomo shop once
ah
Start playing about a year ago and you get all the good fomo stuff
wasnt there some wizard premium hat with % all stat that was in the fomo shop?
that big purple hat
yes
What should dk orb be at with max CD again?
Thanks man

Can leaders in Guild choose their bouns ?
leaders select what to upgrade
I don't want to be a leader anymore ๐ญ
You stealing screenies from my IE?
Ah yes you caught me
Someone link me buddha's IE so I can copy it
I did not realize my 16% dr keychain was actually 2 best rolls. That's neato.
Never
I need to see it.. for science
Probably just embarrassed to not be as good as Alvin
oh you updated recently
Yeah after sample day
time to scope the competition 
Time to plug it into my bot and see what it can grill you on 
reviewbot is back?!

It's a WIP

It can WIP me for science
I have 0 idea how to do frontend shit so lmao
the bribes?
Lol damn that's brutal.
dafuq man
Searching for character data from: https://canabuddha.idleonefficiency.com
World 1 AutoReview
Best stamp tier met: 31/36. Recommended stamp actions:
*Improve these high-priority stamp(s): Mason Jar to 128+
Best Smithing tier met: 6/6. Recommended Smithing actions:
*Nada, you best โค๏ธ
World 3 AutoReview
Best Refinery tier met: 19/19. Recommended refinery actions:
*This method of always ranking up all salts will get you to the Rank 22+ holy land faster, but will often leave you dry without salts for days or weeks at a time. Use with caution!
*Next Tab2 Balanced tier needs Green: 27/28, Purple: 21/16 (Overleveled!), Nullo: 18/9 (Overleveled!)
understandable have a nice day
did u buy the thing that takes you to the new bribes
Get rekt, no mason jar at 128 what a noob
on the bribes screen
lol
It isn't very far yet ๐
All Rash sees is STAMPS

oh thank god
you are the best

Bro how many people have 128 mason jar stamp
me
Gross
didnt u just do some es farming
Just to test
I farmed all but 124 -> 128 on DK 
u can get it so fast
Damn it 
The roast bot claims its first victim
All the elites ( it has the w5 elites so it counts as w5 too)
i worship u too 
Wait yall have 128 damn I'm slacking
We need a leaderboardbot
not as much as alvin tho 
Time to candy 140 Mason jar I guess 
Its ok, you're not endgame, you dont need to be 128
Buddha has no excuse though 

They're the endgame gatekeeper 
In about to ES sandy pots for the next 5 weeks
until w6
just do dk and get statue farm as well
Think about what that's going to do to your daily reset timer, though?
Is it really worth it?
did everyone now greenstack nullo already
Everyone did that, yeah.
yes i have certainly done that
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My nullo was green stacked in W2 
Did anyone NOT green stack nullo...?
everyone post your proof
Lava said he'd release next world when everyone finished greenstacking it.
So if you don't have it yet, you're slowing everyone else down.
hello, i wanted to ask again if anyone knows what these 4 mobs (not the white poop) are to be zowed? i am aware another application aside from IE can help me but i would prefer to try and figure it out before using multiple platformers
damn urs looks dif than mine, sus
Those are the invisible mobs inside of zones that don't normally spawn enemies.
which zones would those be? are they killable or nah
The invisible green mushroom inside Doot's map (active kills only)
The poops at Dr. Def Map (easy to candy)
The single Nutto at the TD map (more expensive to candy)
and uhh... a 4th one
equinox maybe?
I think there's an invisible ram in equinox, maybe
there is something in the butterflies map, maybe its that
isnt it rift
there is equinox
I believe IE actually shows Rift icon now
999 neyeptune is Chizoar's map (which cannot be done)
where is the monster in rift?
any of the mobs you are on for rift
so the earlier you do it in rift the easier
oh wait i mixed that and equinox. yea the rift ones done
It cannot if you're a casual. True gamers can chow chizoar
i think it may be only afkable? dont know about equinox one
im killing the solo acorn and my zow doesnt seem to be effected. i wonder if IE even tracks this or if this can even be zowed.
It can be zowed
if the 999 nep is chizoar.. what is the ram?
guess IE is broken for it
Equinox
it says theres a ram in the equinox but i cant find it
dont tell me it was only available before i started the equinox quests.. fk
ah
That's the whole reason people recommend using IT instead of IE to track Apocalypses.
Remember to afk for 1 minute at a time
2 minutes, yeah?
1 minute for equinox
i guess i will just use IT..
Equinox is unique and allows 1 minute afks
Or does Equinox magically let you claim 1min afk unlike everywhere else
For some reason you can do 2 minute claims every minute
cool
it was The Office, The Roots, Mummy Memorial, Equinox Valley
Office = Dr Def
Roots = TD nutto
Mummy Memorial = gmush at King Doot
i have never fought king doot before
Probably missing out on the (tied for) best Drop Rate card 
I mean gems and candies are cool too
Runeplate leggings! Op af
Trimmed
Shit
fml that king doot requires other players
Trimming rune 10k
If you need me, i can do whatever character
whats a realistic upper limit for DR to aim for? now 20's?
twenty fuckin six?
1k obol shards spent and still no single sparkle dice obol 
Twenty fucking six.
Finally bought the draconic cauldron
i cant even hit 22, where tf is the extra 4 coming from
i have a dootphone
I can get 24 on dk and 25 on vman or someyhing
appreciate it
U dont need other then i dont think, unless the quest requires it
where is all that dr coming from? just obols and dr bubble?
how do i use the phone? im at the stone with the eye symbol
You need a golden eye key on anvil 2 page, then do as said above
just hold on it like on candy
that bundle with the 1.2x drop is necessary for 26dr iirc
The golden eye recipe is from the sand guys with a monocle
i got trimmed rune leggings, yay
do u mean the bundle with the molten cloak?
ty
no it was a more recent bundle with islands launch iirc
The islands expedition bundle
How good is draconic cauldron?
Very
from 1/10
do i trash rune leggings or no
imo its about a 15/10
Could save it to craft with for +1 slab
but im a noob so my opinion is invalid ๐
I just bought it today (just enough gems) and I heard the shop will reset tomorrow
what did i miss?
Ruby
Cloudsaving
W
26 DR ๐

