lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[bold quiver]

if u just got to W5 just go farm drop rate ! ez

[lilac path]

this too

both need some love

[hexed elm]

there basically isnt something to focus on if you are missing most of the basics, i think thats the idea

[dapper prism]

The issue is still there's a difference on full on neglecting 90% of game mechanics and not doing anything in them

Vs trying and not knowing what to focus on

[lilac path]

for stamp just lvl it to 1500-200 overall to wherr u are rn

[red crescent]

I am trying though

[bold quiver]

wow burn

[dapper prism]

Like, as simple as that 18 thread cost on a stamp while owning 150k.

[red crescent]

why would I ask if i'm not trying

[hexed elm]

yeah i know

[bold quiver]

trying to ignore 90% of the game mechanics that have been presented to u since w2? LUL

[patent hatch]

Griffy bitt is a youtuber that makes good content for accounts such as yours

look him up and watch his videos on progression for early-mid game

[dapper prism]

Open each tab, 1 by 1, start with world 1, anvil, buy points, then setup anvil stuff, go to world 1 stamps, level it all, go to world 2 section etc. just tab by tab, fixing things up step by step

[hexed elm]

i think a lot of people just hit a brick wall and it can sometimes be more effective to try to tell them that the minimum basics are super important than to say their account isnt even worth looking at because they are missing the basics

[bold quiver]

aka play the game that u havent been playing until now

its funny that people wouldnt hit those walls if they actualy played the game

[red crescent]

this, seriously

[dapper prism]

World 1 even based on stamps

[hexed elm]

sometimes a push in the right direction is enough

[ocean quest]

Lets you know which ones you can upgrade

[bold quiver]

and im not even talking of min maxing nor anything........ its just doing the bare minimum

[ocean quest]

start there maybe

[hexed elm]

yes i know

[bold quiver]

how can u push someone in the right direction like........ just play the game, there isnt much to it

[patent hatch]

its interesting though, playing since before w4 started means that time was spent on the early worlds a lot more than what newer players have done, makes for a strong foundation

[dapper prism]

@red crescent small tip, you do NOT need to unlock vials in order btw
https://i.imgur.com/YqMCxBA.png

E.g. you can skip bunny and do a later one directly

[bold quiver]

alchemy exists, unlock bubbles and upgrade.
worship exist, use charge and beat new highscores,
trapping exist, unlock new critters
construction, unlock new stuff,
etc

[dapper prism]

That's 1 core thing thats unclear throughout the game tbh

[hexed elm]

@bold quiver @dapper prism you guys arent wrong by any means, i agree with yall 100% im just trying to say sometimes having a friendlier approach can be really effective yet i do understand your pov

[sullen sleet]

do I have any shot of getting to 115 pet arena with this?

[frozen wagon]

Are there any more ways to increase move speed other than pots?
(For sb)

[patent hatch]

tricks is asked the same question multiple times a day

they can just search chat

and its the same thing

[hexed elm]

yes i know

[undone steeple]

tbf the entire purpose of this chat is asking questions

[lilac path]

there are but tedious

[undone steeple]

if you dont wanna answer just ignore them

[red crescent]

I didn't mean to upset anyone, I just wanted some assistance

seriously

the channel is called "questions-w5"

[undone steeple]

you didnt do anything wrong, just take advice where you can

[bold quiver]

go back to w1-w2 chat since u are missing those areas!

[patent hatch]

technically not a 25 question ^.-

[tight saddle]

This. It's honestly super weird reading this chat sometimes. People with insanely low damage somehow at W5, people asking... I don't even know... cooking tips when they have barely touched alchemy and stamps, etc.

[bold quiver]

that was a skull joke btw

[sick sentinel]

Maybe, but if u can roll a bigger borgar would help immensly

[gentle furnace]

Doing equinox?

[hexed elm]

yeah basically you cant really effectively do w4/5 without having a strong foundation in w1-3 @red crescent

[sullen sleet]

yep

[sullen sleet]

I have 15 or so eggs ill try to roll a higher one

[hexed elm]

the minibosses and library books are super duper important, like unfathomably important

[patent hatch]

yeah I guess its overall an overwhelming experience, especially considering the game doesnt really explain anything to you. but there are a lot fo guides online in the wiki and youtube

[dapper prism]

@red crescent
W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA

For you it would honestly be every earlier worlds content, go back step by step through each world either using IE or Toolbox

[gentle furnace]

Change rattler to peapod

[bold quiver]

did u know that u barely need any alchemy or anything else to reach w5? just need around 300k dmg at w5, 16k accuracy and offline pushing

[sick sentinel]

You wouldnt happen to have peapod unlocked would u? I think the first is doggo w4. If not then go ahead and try with the comp u habe

[tight saddle]

I kinda want to say it's everyone's personal "fault" if they've pushed the worlds without spending any sensible time and thought on the earlier worlds. Obviously it's overwhelming if you start focusing on 50 different mechanics at once, when the whole world system exists to unlock the content at a pace one can keep up

[bold quiver]

i do not like how the offline system in this game is so broken

[hexed elm]

with all due respect, it can be a lot more helpful sometimes to ask in discord than read a whole guide or watch a whole video when you have a single question, or in the case that you need advice specific to your situation it can also be really useful for that

[sullen sleet]

ya... not even close to a peapeapod

[hexed elm]

guides/videos are helpful, but discord and reddit beat them several times over in some ways

[gentle furnace]

Should catch up on your breeding then lol

[patent hatch]

well you just said it yourself, a specific question, asking for an IE revierw is not a specific question

[lilac path]

yea thats me when i got to w5 then backtracked everything i just want to get to w5 first

[dapper prism]

But there is no advice in playing if you arnt even really playing tbh

[gentle furnace]

Corgi is the first peapod

[hexed elm]

i also said in that same sentence "or in the case that you need advice specific to your situation it can also be really useful for that"

[bold quiver]

let me see if i can find the alchemy from my last w5 acc

[hexed elm]

i understand what youre saying

[frozen wagon]

What is alchemy

[patent hatch]

but again, there ar eliterally at this point hundreds of the same questions being asked over a period of months

and equal amounts of answers

[sullen sleet]

I dont even have the TV unlocked

[hexed elm]

and no im not qualifying anyones given reason for asking a question in discord or reddit, im just saying thats why people do it

it shouldnt be hard to understand that

[gentle furnace]

Start splicing w4 then

[tight saddle]

Maybe the issue is that the game doesn't gate you enough then? Like half of the people in questions-w5 have been playing for considerably longer than the others. We're in the same chat, but nowhere near same situation in-game

[bold quiver]

checkout my w5 acc that i speedrun a while ago

[lilac path]

we should just hv a channel IE reviews that helps u in the situation u are rn

[gentle furnace]

And get more eggs from colo

[lilac path]

we had almost the same im just high minning xd

[hexed elm]

from the answerers perspective, it is exhausting to answer the same question a thousand times especially when there are other resources that could answer that question that dont demand anyones immediate attention

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[tight saddle]

And / or there should be a sort of separate chat for "W5 + under 1k hours" and "W5 + over 1k hours" or something lol

[sullen sleet]

I need the w3 and w4 splicer recipe first

[patent hatch]

seems more a gen chat question tbh

[dapper prism]

Then the nuder 1k wont be guided or helped much xD

[red crescent]

I would really love that. I get that you all get the same questions a lot but I am legit struggling because theres so much to do.

[hexed elm]

from the questioners perspective, when you really dont know whats going on and you feel the need to get direct help from someone immediately, sometimes you feel like you have no choice other than getting someone to set your head straight

[bold quiver]

when u have doubt about w5 and are just a noob with horrible damage, hop on #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 chat, people are more prepared for these stuff there!!! these w5 chat ppl are too strong

[hexed elm]

yeah i agree, when you dont need late game advice i would suggest always going w3/4 chat

[red crescent]

okay, will do.

[tight saddle]

I mean there wouldn't be as many "veterans" then, but like the reason why my advice is so general, e.g. "level alch, stamps and stuff" is because I literally can't remember what I did 2000 hours ago eventhough we're in the same world :D The other issue is that I've actually never even experienced the same situation as many question-askers here, because I had like 2500 hours in when I got to W5. This is to say that at least people would be playing the same game then

[hexed elm]

most w5 people are probably in the same boat lol

[bold quiver]

i know all about pushing game content with the most horrible areas possible, u can ask me

[vapid cove]

im about to start going brrr bois atmos be damned

[bold quiver]

and i did that recently twice!

[vapid cove]

atoms

[bold quiver]

one with f2p experience, another one with p2w experience (gems) + doot upon reaching w5. Dif experiences so cool

[eternal mantle]

how long did each one take

[clear quartz]

almost time for whatever comes after godshart coins, woo

[eternal mantle]

despair

[bold quiver]

F2P - 12 days w1-w5,
P2W gems - 6 days w1-w5 and another 11 days to get vman with 1M+ prints

[patent hatch]

o.O

[eternal mantle]

how tf did you f2p 12 days

[bold quiver]

f2p was around 20 something days to vman also, didnt take much

[faint niche]

how on midgard is that possible

[bold quiver]

Secret is min maxing every resource u can so u dont do random stuff + 100% offline gameplay with food abusing

[eternal mantle]

food so op

reminds me of w3

[dapper prism]

I get that, thing is w5 was already out when i started this game, and I rushed it, first time playing the game and it took 3 weeks to w5.
I just dislike how most people typically use the excuse of "i rushed w5" for ignoring nearly every single game mechanic and content of the game. then they wonder why they have crap kph or dmg and everything. They ask for help and it's like.. are you even playing the game though? It makes little sense when people have stamps and alchemy cost 5 mats when they own 150k or millions of it.

And honestly at this point argueing that someone didnt know stamps or alchemy was important would be kinda an excuse, its a meme in every chat and gets posted probably 100's of times a day

[eternal mantle]

with rams

[bold quiver]

yeah it basicaly breaks the game unfortunately

[hexed elm]

i didnt use food until w4 (dont do what i did)

[bold quiver]

tanker POV

[eternal mantle]

😭

[hexed elm]

did it with bb too

[stable berry]

What’s the bubble everyone upgrade for more efficiency for oak samples

[patent hatch]

I remember getting through w3 and crying cause I needed food :)

[eternal mantle]

get first bubble 10k

inf eff bug

[stable berry]

I’m at 951M oak samples sadly

[bold quiver]

oh no, so close

[hexed elm]

my samples suck cuz i neglected alchemy most of my account

[eternal mantle]

don't some people have 2b sample

or close

like 1.9

[bold quiver]

yeah probably over 2B

[hexed elm]

i think people have more

[eternal mantle]

O.o

[dapper prism]

I might have that if i tried soon o.o

[bold quiver]

im at 1,6B and im not even strong

[patent hatch]

people do

[stable berry]

Like I wanna see their IE so I know what bubbles they focused on

[gentle furnace]

Francis had 2b oak sample

[eternal mantle]

ngl I wanna see some real end gamers ies

thats the real ie reviews I wanna see

[patent hatch]

you can, go to leaderboards..

[eternal mantle]

not no lame bullshit of people just not clicking bubbles

[dapper prism]

1.2b oak and its 2 months old, without all the new stuff (e.g. completing every quest and new star talent stuff + IS trophy)

[eternal mantle]

leaderboards are a thing still?

[bold quiver]

its a competition of who can hourly click more bubbles

[stable berry]

Leaderboards are officially closed

[patent hatch]

oh

rip

[dapper prism]

thats been removed back at doot release

[eternal mantle]

been closed since pet companions

the downfall of ie

[patent hatch]

just shows how long its been since I last looked :P

[bold quiver]

or who CLICKED a lot in a time frame that some not so great things were possible ehe

i remember that someone poested the PIC of a guy that had over 30k levels on some bubbles

[rich epoch]

that anime with the short guy and the big metal doll

[dapper prism]

Thats the one thing i would barely ever do, is hourly bubble clicks xD

[hexed elm]

man im so glad rift 9 actually got me to not neglect my dk any longer

[bold quiver]

and mathematicaly it would have taken him 2 years to do that, so.... yeah some stuff happened

[eternal mantle]

ur 2b sample no hourly clicks?

O.o

[patent hatch]

just go to end game chat and do a search there have been screenshots of good ones

[eternal mantle]

end gamers = exploiting

tbh

[ruby yarrow]

For the mats or liquids?

[bold quiver]

i would rather stare at my game whole day than do 1 hourly click lol. I stopped when i got around 2k on 1st bubbles

[bold quiver]

to achieve that bubble level, 30k

[sick sentinel]

My favorite part was when the little dude yelled, "ITS ALCHEMY TIME" and he just alchemied everywhere

[bold quiver]

takes around 2 years to do that without missing a single hourly click

[dapper prism]

2k 👀
https://i.imgur.com/N2dRNsd.png

[ruby yarrow]

What exactly is a hourly click

[dapper prism]

Most my bubble 1 lvls came from 2-3 levels ofg atoms

[rich epoch]

just alchemed his arm and leg away that was real cool

[bold quiver]

atom that

i atomed my wisdom bubble to 1k

[dapper prism]

You click alchemy bubbles every hour on multiple bubbles that you 3d print on

[ruby yarrow]

Oh

[dapper prism]

Mhm, 1 day left to get this to 90% then my purple/orange skill stuff is all 90%
https://i.imgur.com/LKsoHOw.png

[ruby yarrow]

Maybe they used candies for mats?

[hexed elm]

since companions are out thats not a thing anymore right?

cant remember the one that has perma all bubbles

[dapper prism]

Think i'd rather do more carpenter before touching bubble 1

[eternal mantle]

whats ur carpenter at

is candy for clicks really not a thing?

[bold quiver]

niceee i got mine to 90 also

but now im a quick slap worshiper

[dapper prism]

459, so its already at 90%, but either some more carpenter like 950 for 95% or more Bob

[eternal mantle]

whats bob

at

[dapper prism]

1800

[bold quiver]

my bob is 1k, anything abose is a scam

[eternal mantle]

week

weak

[dapper prism]

Mhm, had 200 bubble 2 and Quickslap but still hit 40t + dmg on SB xD

[eternal mantle]

wtf

[bold quiver]

people are lying to u making u think that leveling construction that much is actualy important!

[eternal mantle]

shhhh

it is !

😠

[bold quiver]

yeah, i had already 100T dmg before starting to lvl quickslap

[hexed elm]

big architecture is a psyop

[tight saddle]

I'll go ahead and also blame the attention span these days xd. It's more fun to constantly push and discover new things and honestly it's also kind of the game's fault for not introducing harder walls to reach new worlds. Like say W5 is balanced like so that one should have been spending 3 months with the W1-W4 content, then the requirements to reach W5 should reflect that somehow.

Then there is also the "issue" that in the game's current state, it is honestly pretty easy to forget that it is an idle game. The curve gets really weird if you can rush to W5 in a couple of weeks with a fresh account no problem, but after that everything suddenly requires focus and major time investment. In other words, it's easy to play Idleon as a non-idle game to a point, after which it becomes 100% idle game - it's no wonder some players are confused and might even have hard time believing they have to start afking and grinding things, when they really haven't had to until the point they get lost.

[bold quiver]

im just doing cuz of the meme, and no other bubble to lvl that i want

[dapper prism]

Im keeping my quickslap as my last option, going to get green bubble 2 to 450 or 500 for the 90% though

[eternal mantle]

love bubble 2

[slender sandal]

Lava purposely nerfs the worlds that aren't current so people can reach "current thing" relatively quickly

w5 portals will 100% be nerfed sometime after w6 comes out if not immediately

[bold quiver]

i doubt

it doesnt align with how muchh W5 boost dmg and increase KPH to reduce them

[hexed elm]

thats exactly what im anticipating xD

[patent hatch]

nothing to doubt he has done it every time

[bold quiver]

from w3 to w4 we had a 10x portal increase (after neft) from last map........ so w4 to w5 we also have a 10x increase, same thing

[hexed elm]

yeah but as is w5 is pretty slow

[fast grail]

Cant wait to lose multiple skulls/zows/(super)chows

[ocean lily]

silver stopwatches dont affect library checkout time?

[slender sandal]

the biggest thing people can do to avoid the same questions is help with consolidating new player/info guides, and or just spam the alchemy meme lol

[patent hatch]

for the new players that rushed w5 it really is just unlocking or playing content they skipped

[bold quiver]

i 100% sure there wont be a portal reduction on w5 after w6 release. The increase is the same from w3 w4. 10x

[patent hatch]

not having stmaps, vials or meals unlicked is a real sign

[eternal mantle]

refinery

[hexed elm]

im 100% sure there will be a portal reduction on w5 after w6 release

[dapper prism]

I do see your point tbh. It's just the "newest world" thats properly slow. Although honestly w4 itself was already a big grind compared to 1-3.
I saw someone push through w4 with 200kph at floms just buying candy near daily and crap like that..
W4 does need some basic setup, but not as extreme as w5 where you need it all "po for alch for CC, more CC for more alch and stamps for more samples and vice versa etc etc."

But still some people neglect too much. It's 1 thing "oh i forgot you could buy some anvil points later on" to i've never bought anvil points, i dont level stamps, why should i do alchemy. and so on. Especially with as stated before, every chat here has enough memes bosted on the daily for alch

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-smile-enjeru-gif-26119496

bet is on!

[hexed elm]

yeah

[slender sandal]

refinery is the biggest one, tbh i started in w4 and rushed there since everyone said "get to lab asap" and probably set myself back months doing that

[magic oyster]

Yeah, lick those meals, lick em good

[tight saddle]

Yeah I know :S It's good in some ways, but bad in other ways. MMOs which introduce some kind of level skips and stuff suffer from the same issue. While it's really nice to be able to join your higher level friends quicker, those level-skippers are sometimes insufferable to run into since they're so clueless.a

[dapper prism]

Hope he adds a 0 to each portal, cause lava code x3

[bold quiver]

its 50/50 for each side!

[hexed elm]

i hope he removes a 0 from each portal

[patent hatch]

I would be happy for a fail safe for plant unlocks and artifact unlocks like with the nugget

[dapper prism]

add 2 0's now

[hexed elm]

yeah i hope he removes 2 0's now

[dapper prism]

definetely need more rubberbanding people later on

[hexed elm]

tbh oranges to lava genies should only be 500k kc

[tight saddle]

The equinox nugget upgrade is huge for gaming

[slender sandal]

artifact pity after a certain point (unlock last island or something so it's not immediate so you still have to interact with the system somewhat) would be nice

[bold quiver]

huge scam!

[patent hatch]

saving these for no reason at all

[bold quiver]

need to run more colo dude

[hexed elm]

the real question is will w6 cool down w5 enough to be able to use candies

[slender sandal]

usually yes

maybe not right away but soon after

[hexed elm]

if thats the case maybe the portals dont need to be reduced

[patent hatch]

this will be used to make artifacts and plants easier to unlock my guess

[bold quiver]

we gonna start painting our flowers

[hexed elm]

i just want my 2 more characters

[lilac path]

paint artifacts hmm

[vapid cove]

yeah good idea to stockpile them in preparation for W5 i dont feel like the 1/50 mil recipie is something i want to get normally

[lilac path]

thats a no imo

[hexed elm]

i havent had too much problems with the recipes

[zealous niche]

Player house/fashion?

[zealous niche]

It will

[zealous niche]

Yes

[lilac path]

idleon house feature hmmm

[hexed elm]

i feel like intentionally going for the recipes is troll unless you have nothing else to do

[patent hatch]

I've done maybe 10 colos these are from the biggun monsters and events

[ruby yarrow]

You got more hours of candies than my total afk time probably

[eternal mantle]

how long did it take you to get that many tho

[patent hatch]

2 years or so

[slender sandal]

the game craps candy out at you after awhile

[eternal mantle]

goddamn

😭

[patent hatch]

keeping in mind I use them every so often too

[eternal mantle]

2 years = 10 days of colo

👍

[patent hatch]

I dont try and hoard them, im lazy on using them

[dapper prism]

I just burnt through that many blues and reds this week

[lilac path]

now getting that much isnt that hard

[dapper prism]

greenstacking questies and getting 1b copper bars at least

[eternal mantle]

ik but he doesn't do colo he said

[dapper prism]

i dont much either

[tight saddle]

Yeah I hear you The game could benefit for having some kind of "you haven't touched your stamps for a while" reminder system or something. Or maybe alert-icons in the quick view UI for when you have 100x the resources to upgrade something within each feature.

I've actually run into the same situation myself later in the game. One day I randomly noticed that I hadn't touched my skill stamps like... ever. I guess I just forgot about them.

[patent hatch]

yeha ill use mine for that one day too

[hexed elm]

man i wish we could use multiple blue candies at a time

[eternal mantle]

its really the main candy gaining thing in teh game

[ruby yarrow]

Not me tbh

[patent hatch]

i'm a lazy gamer, I don't min max and I dont go out of my way to hard focus anything, it's a slow grind for me

[dapper prism]

shop bag is several hours of candy a day (per bag)

And weekly reset op

[lilac path]

at the same time annoying like getting a red dot somewhere to do something and u can't

[dapper prism]

This is my DK's candy from todays weekly reset: Giants ftw
https://i.imgur.com/pm4fXX1.png

[eternal mantle]

yeah colo still better tho

[slender sandal]

god i wish someone would come use my candy i'm so lazy

[eternal mantle]

I have wayu less dr than you guranteed

and get about the same candy in a few colos

[patent hatch]

least i can hold this down now

[eternal mantle]

colos also give you like 300 of those

😭

[patent hatch]

:D

[tight saddle]

I'm personally voting for having this old fella popping up every 3 minutes to remind you to upgrade your bubbles

[dapper prism]

guess i hit 15k
https://i.imgur.com/Fj4Rrse.png

[patent hatch]

hahaha pogers

[eternal mantle]

just over 1/4th of the way

pain

[hexed elm]

yeah but look at its little face its so cute

[slender sandal]

gold stopwatches for pickles

[tranquil surge]

https://srslybro69.idleonefficiency.com/

[eternal mantle]

I could watch bobjoepickle die in a fire

[slender sandal]

i feel like they'll be another thing i hoard way too long because "surely they'll be more useful later"

[eternal mantle]

^_^

[tranquil surge]

any tips on where to next? or a roast would be good give it too m

me

[patent hatch]

xd

scroll up about 10 mins and read LOL

[eternal mantle]

do alchemy and stamps

ggwp

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/0WQ6PEf.png There will be a day when lava makes Pickle Jar vial do something

[eternal mantle]

consider urself reviewed

[hexed elm]

do alchemy and stamps

[tranquil surge]

sigh

any tips on how to get cranium cooking moar gooderer

it doesnt work that gr8 for me ay

[ruby yarrow]

For the maps
-from trickzbunny

Make sure you 1 shot them with gas

[eternal mantle]

this is a sin

[tranquil surge]

only at 1

yeah gotcha ok will try that

[sick sentinel]

One shot mobs, higher cc talent/bubble, cap visual movespeed to 350%, more crystal chance

[tranquil surge]

i dont have trems unlocked but im sure i could probably 1 shot em or close too

[eternal mantle]

free levels here too

again free levels

[tall horizon]

My discord paused here, it knew I adore anya.

[tranquil surge]

so do i start farming the smol wurms and unclock it?

unlock*

[eternal mantle]

why do you have 1b slime

free levels

😭

[hexed elm]

based hoarder

[tranquil surge]

huh

oh probably left it on print when i went for a break

[eternal mantle]

you could get 7k stamp levels

tmr

literally

tmr

7k total stamp level

[tranquil surge]

o

[eternal mantle]

that is huge gains for gilded stamp chance

[vapid cove]

confirmed lavas gonna add a perk for 1 billi stacks lol

[eternal mantle]

which equals gains

do it now

😠

[tranquil surge]

dayum

ok so that all slime stamps?

[eternal mantle]

like bro

look at this

that is tens of levels

for free

[tranquil surge]

mmmm

good point

[eternal mantle]

missing some bubo dmg why

[tranquil surge]

except its in mining

[hexed elm]

upgrade wood capacity = even more levels

[tranquil surge]

which ones for bubo

[eternal mantle]

the ones you don't own

well the 3

[tranquil surge]

i dont have the voodoos yet

[eternal mantle]

spam drop multiple stacks

[tranquil surge]

i get them in an hour

[eternal mantle]

pro vial tip

[tranquil surge]

yeah i do that

[hexed elm]

good tip

[eternal mantle]

disgusting levels

[tranquil surge]

dont have mongos yet either

[eternal mantle]

you need tranqi on all before you even think about stopping

[tight saddle]

Wait that works?

[eternal mantle]

ye

I learned it when I came back to the game

its insanely op

[tight saddle]

:o

[tranquil surge]

hmm so im stuck in lab then?

[eternal mantle]

why are you just missing this

despair

[tranquil surge]

till i get the multitool stamp

[eternal mantle]

you are indead stuck in lab

do divinity levels

[tranquil surge]

oh man bros going innnn

[hexed elm]

man i feel like some day someone needs to make a fully encompassed manifesto of every non intuitive mechanic in idleon

[tranquil surge]

i guess i did ask for it

[eternal mantle]

okay

you asked what you need to do

my answer is everything

literally look anywhere

choose to do it

and you'll gain tremendously

[tranquil surge]

looool

[eternal mantle]

WHAT

LMFAOO

[ruby yarrow]

Ok

[eternal mantle]

do those first

I changed mym ind/

[slender sandal]

that's generally the answer, start with stamps and low alch bubbles and move forward

[eternal mantle]

sorry for being mean its part of the ie review process

😔

[tranquil surge]

all my alch bubbles are dogshit

its g

[tight saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZzlPGnKdU

[tranquil surge]

i wantedd to know

[eternal mantle]

just remember

one thing

[slender sandal]

make alch not dogshit is the big progression in the game 🙂

[eternal mantle]

skilling=everything

[slender sandal]

it's all gradual

[eternal mantle]

so focus bubble 2 and 3 for warrior and mage

your account will

go insane

absolutely insane

[tranquil surge]

i see

ok il do that

[dapper prism]

another ie ?

[tranquil surge]

tricks and i started at a similar time start of the year

[eternal mantle]

put everyones anvil on nails

cost reduc bubble 3 for mage

[tranquil surge]

but im not efficent to say the least

alright bet

[eternal mantle]

I started like two years ago and I'm worse than trick

[hexed elm]

?

[eternal mantle]

bad player moment

[tranquil surge]

hes just nuts efficient

[eternal mantle]

I am now too

I'm just lazy

sadness

question are you a doot user

[tranquil surge]

yup

[eternal mantle]

and do you have 500 usd on hand?

[hexed elm]

im too scatter brained to be efficient by choice :(

[eternal mantle]

..

[tranquil surge]

yes

[eternal mantle]

okay wow

that makes things 10x easier

[ruby yarrow]

He has doot

[eternal mantle]

most people at this level would not be a dooter

okay so its very easy for you

push with bubo to worms

put everyones anvil on nails

[ruby yarrow]

Do you have doot

[eternal mantle]

yep got it recently

but

like super recent

[ruby yarrow]

Nice

[eternal mantle]

a week ago

[tranquil surge]

ok bubo to worms

everyone nails

[eternal mantle]

so push w5 bubo

everyone nails

do some cooking too free gains basically

[ruby yarrow]

How much money?

[tranquil surge]

rodger

[eternal mantle]

500 dollars

[tight saddle]

The real suffering lies with having to do full proper resamples for everyone and/or traps. Especially when the trap drone didn't exist hrrrrrrrrr...........

[slender sandal]

Doot covers up a lot of sins for easy progression

[tranquil surge]

1 doing superchows?

[slender sandal]

god old trapping was a disaster

[eternal mantle]

uhh

ur kph is probably not that great for superchows

[tranquil surge]

i get close to 1m kph for w1

early mobs

[eternal mantle]

quick question

why is ur bubo

rocking scrubs

and lab rings

[tranquil surge]

hes currently in lab

[eternal mantle]

okay

ur a dooter so this is easy

get everyone void tools minimum

and full chizoar

[tight saddle]

dooter

[hexed elm]

fashionm

[eternal mantle]

also do ur dungeons

[ruby yarrow]

What’s the most kph anyone that we know of and didn’t cheat has done on gmush?

[eternal mantle]

opols very important for bubo

= more moneys

ur account isn't bad

[tranquil surge]

dont peak those

[eternal mantle]

its like a neglected child

[tranquil surge]

lol

[eternal mantle]

like a diamond in the rough

[hexed elm]

take a few minutes and clean up your obols, scrap all the bad ones

[eternal mantle]

honestly you could go full multikill obols

[tranquil surge]

define the bad ones, ok peak those

[eternal mantle]

since you need eclipse

[hexed elm]

imo if youre scatter brained like me its better to have 0 bad obols and max frags than useless buffs on random characters

[tight saddle]

I feel like I'm watching an episode of those cleaning ladies fixing some poor fella's apartment they've neglected for 15 years

[eternal mantle]

@tranquil surge come do dungeons rn

pop 2

[tranquil surge]

alright bet

[eternal mantle]

other ppl join

[tranquil surge]

lemme just sort this gear out on bubo

il bring him?

or

vman

[eternal mantle]

go dk

what rank are you

[tranquil surge]

alright

44'

i think

[eternal dove]

Which dung

[hexed elm]

ill come too

[eternal mantle]

use

and put on the coinflip talent

try to get horn

pop 2 for party dungeon

[eternal dove]

Which dung tho

[tranquil surge]

frogs for best points rewards

[hollow osprey]

should i go for lustre gear or chizoar? i use void rn

[eternal mantle]

also use cards

[eternal mantle]

chizoar

lustre is shit

you skip everything to troll

[hollow osprey]

aight

[eternal mantle]

void-chizoar-troll

[slender sandal]

god i swear i would buy another pack if Lava made a dungeon sweep mechanic or something with your best score

i have a zillion tickets and cant be assed

[hollow osprey]

don't i need any other things than mats to craft troll?

[eternal dove]

Fair. Is it happy hour? I'm not at my pc rn. Eating rn I'll be on in a few

[zealous niche]

@eternal mantle my dude can you type in one message rather than every phrase sending seperately. Come back to a solid wall of your partial sentences

[eternal mantle]

cope.

[slender sandal]

starfire bars is the gate for troll usuallly unless you have really low DR for the other stuff

[clear quartz]

i still need to kit everyone in troll+, need to sit down and farm more golden twine and be done with it lol

[zealous niche]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-shia-la-beouf-flame-gif-4445204

[clear quartz]

next time i swap drop gear to my ES ill go knock it out after i run all my kruk keys i think for his cape attempt

[zealous niche]

You’re doing kruk farms with below troll gear? Good effort

[eternal dove]

do it??????

[olive sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/its-never-gonna-end-josh-dallas-ben-stone-manifest-no-ending-gif-16301921

[slender sandal]

see you in an hour

[eternal dove]

well theres one way to end it....

[slender sandal]

[eternal dove]

dont try me. ive done it before and ill do it again

[olive sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[tranquil surge]

points going into what

or saving for what eli

[eternal dove]

3 and i do it

[hexed elm]

gg tyfp dungeon people

[tranquil surge]

opal ring?

[hexed elm]

opal ring

[eternal dove]

done

[eternal mantle]

if you can buy them yes

[hexed elm]

actually might go for persephones

[eternal mantle]

or persephones if you don't have

good idea

[tranquil surge]

i couldnt affordd that

[olive sphinx]

[tranquil surge]

only ring

[hexed elm]

persephones is so big holyu

[eternal dove]

time to start the chem farm again

[hexed elm]

15% skill afk gain :D

[tranquil surge]

we running it b2b?

or

[eternal mantle]

nah I just wanted to do my weekly

[hexed elm]

not me

[tranquil surge]

rodger

[eternal mantle]

got 30k flurbos

[hexed elm]

man sign me up im down to do weekly with you guys every week

[patent hatch]

rank 60 rewards tier when

[bright current]

all da void eggs? gone

[clear quartz]

look at those festive eggs

decorating for chrimbus early i see

how high are the engamer peoples drop% now btw? any gigachads out there with like 25x yet?

[pearl cedar]

Here ya go

[clear quartz]

delicious

[pearl cedar]

Vman should be able to hit 26

[hexed elm]

anyone here know if lava spends equal time between deving idle skilling and idleon

as in frequency of updates

[clear quartz]

wonder what im missing, aside from a boatload of base stats

oh more faux jewels lvls

[pearl cedar]

Idle skilling is done

[hexed elm]

oh

[pearl cedar]

What is your DR?

[hexed elm]

thats kinda sad

[clear quartz]

my base stats smol

[ruby yarrow]

Higher than mine

[pearl cedar]

You're not missing much on base stat

[clear quartz]

maybe also >90% on the drop% bubble

[pearl cedar]

How many plunders you have?

[clear quartz]

250k ish, so that could use some work

[pearl cedar]

5 star boss/event cards?

I'm only 200k plunders

[dapper prism]

125k here :/

[clear quartz]

missing out on the christmas blob, and i guess i could get it higher without the crystal chance

[pearl cedar]

Oh well my crystal setup is only 24.24

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/PRhadsp.png

You dont have equi maxed?

[pearl cedar]

Prob no ball joe pickle

[clear quartz]

oh yeah no ball pickle :c

[pearl cedar]

Gatekeeps the final 5 levels lol

[pearl cedar]

Mine is 96 there

Uh got stamp?

[dapper prism]

mine is 84 :/

[clear quartz]

oh yeah stamp needs some work

[ruby yarrow]

Mine is 74

[pearl cedar]

The trick is to pull 96 on the first try

[dapper prism]

at 200 trophies dumped

[ruby yarrow]

Only bought 1

[pearl cedar]

Shoot that's rough

[clear quartz]

only 120 on stamp

[pearl cedar]

Ehh it has diminishing returns pretty hard

Kruk gear I assume

[dapper prism]

few % is few %
https://i.imgur.com/zbHDcuA.png

you got companion for 1x?

[pearl cedar]

Are those fomo chains or regular?

[clear quartz]

i guess tooth would give me more stats

both the 25% ones

[dapper prism]

just camping this on dk
https://i.imgur.com/YQ6lkJO.png

[pearl cedar]

No divine scarf?

[dapper prism]

still wondering how you have less

[clear quartz]

cant get tooth to drop, think im about 7k keys deep

[pearl cedar]

Kill on normal or chaotic

[clear quartz]

oh yeah lvl 2 sigil

[clear quartz]

where is that screen from?

[pearl cedar]

It

Characters > stats> hover over Drop Rate

[faint niche]

Gotta ask, does the ES polytheism actually do anything after you get the king doot pet? Like is there any deity that actually would double up and be useful on?

[clear quartz]

yeah equi is the big one it loks like

oh and shrine is hurtin a bit, woops

[pearl cedar]

Shiny too

Nvm misread

[obtuse rover]

No, Lava made a confusing decision to powercreep his most recently-released class' main gimmick with the gacha prize Doot

[pearl cedar]

Gives you div exp 🤷‍♂️

[obtuse rover]

True, true

[faint niche]

Ah so not super useful for my combat build then, got it

[pearl cedar]

I dunno think it applies to whole account so not worthless I guess

[faint niche]

Ty, Got the doot like 2 weeks ago and it finally is proccing right on my toons it seems for some reason

[obtuse rover]

I'm still blown away that it seems like 50% of the discord has doot. It's more common than I expected.

[clear quartz]

lava financin those extra lambos with doot funds

[faint niche]

iirc i got it off one of my free rolls

[clear quartz]

ooo nice

[faint niche]

disregard, its one of my few NOT free rolls lol

[clear quartz]

guess i need to work on getting the 1bil sample size then work on that equi more

[faint niche]

I should upgrade sample sizes for my toons but I like watching that skull at 1.32x >.< though thats much less than what I could get now. Just watching that multiplier go up satisfies my brain some days

[obtuse rover]

Sampling is just too much work

[fallen torrent]

next sample im aiming 1B!

[pearl cedar]

I get to put looty back on vman soon

[tranquil surge]

so wait

can someone explain how the chopping vial is gona affect my bubo gains?

[obtuse rover]

In what regards?

[tranquil surge]

oh wait i think im derping

i meant bubble

i need to look at nails bubble

vial**

wait no the bro was saying chuck it into hoccus choppus bubble

seeing as its nblb bubble right?

[obtuse rover]

I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say, sorry.

[tranquil surge]

scroll up

eli was giving advice on my ie

[tranquil surge]

here

[pearl cedar]

Oh bro

[obtuse rover]

It's a good bubble for getting better samples, so you want to level it up.

Aside from that, maybe they were just generally saying you should try to level up alchemy

[pearl cedar]

The big bubbles you def need to get up

[tranquil surge]

ok

[pearl cedar]

You need your multi log/ore/bug/fish chance to be 300%

Cant remember at what bubble level that is, maybe 130ish?

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, it doesn't technically need to be 300% just from the bubble, because you'll get some from either talents or star signs, but you'll one day have >300% anyways (300 is the cap, though)

[pearl cedar]

But alch in general any bubble you can level up you should level up dont let nblb do the work for you

Nblb should be left for "hard" resources

[eternal dove]

what were the best traps for critters?

[indigo grove]

excuse me my man but why are you fishing in fractal island.

[eternal dove]

mobile?

[indigo grove]

nah steam on laptop

[eternal dove]

hmm weird

[indigo grove]

did afks on towns worked towards fractal countdown?

[random saddle]

Wait whats the use of fractal?

[old portal]

https://zockie.idleonefficiency.com
need help idk what to focus on alchemy now

[eternal dove]

yeah town nothing afk works

[random saddle]

It has to be nothing?

[eternal dove]

yes

[indigo grove]

yes.

[eternal mantle]

do some bob fr

also some diamond chef

I forgot the level you want it but it needs to be higher

[old portal]

aight ill get those atom up

[eternal mantle]

you a dooter?

[old portal]

nope

[indigo grove]

it gives reward based on how much time ye spent doing nothing, currently up to 20k is rewards.

[dapper prism]

afk island is terrible and shouldnt be advertised

[pearl cedar]

And they're all bad

[eternal mantle]

O.o

[dapper prism]

Please do not recommend afk island ever..

[old portal]

doing this rn lol

[indigo grove]

yeah i am not, just mentioning it. since they asked about it.

[eternal mantle]

this is also a way to increase ur sample

increase divinity levels for the minor links

increases a bunch of stuff overall not bad to do

[indigo grove]

since my guy was for some reason fishing at there.

[dapper prism]

still, if someone asks the use, one says forget about it, dont even bother unlocking it xD

[old portal]

iam too lazy to put everyone on div again so iam staying at tranqi

[eternal mantle]

even ur bubo doesn't have full dreadlo that no good

[dapper prism]

dont use spear, use gloves

[eternal mantle]

also that cause attack speed I think???

[old portal]

my bubo is full time afk for now havent move him

[indigo grove]

i hope the w6 and w7 buffs will be absolutely busted.

[eternal mantle]

they will be look at w5 buffs

[pearl cedar]

Speak looks better though

[eternal mantle]

okay what do you want to do rn

[old portal]

nothign iam just looking for alchemy stuff cuz iam just wastign atoms past few days clicking random stuff but yeah i forgot about diamond chef and cons exxp bubbles

[eternal mantle]

you have 3 glided stamps

use

[old portal]

doing ssome eclipse and w3 onyx

[eternal mantle]

besides those you can work on the slab ones and afk gains

[old portal]

aight thankss

[tranquil surge]

is there a certain glove to use on bubo

[uncut ore]

is there no 5th

[dapper prism]

anything ever with 999s is not avail

[tranquil surge]

and when is it worth switching out the staff for gloves on bubo

[eternal mantle]

when u wanna flex dmg

[tranquil surge]

so sooner the better in that case?

[obtuse rover]

To be clear, sheet damage does not go up when using gloves. It will go down.

You use a short-range weapon on bubo so that they'll walk up close to enemies before dropping aura (so it actually hits as many mobs as possible).

[eternal mantle]

yeah listen to that guy

[tranquil surge]

is it drastically damage reduc tho?

[slender sandal]

aura does insane damage compared to poison because it ticks super fast and has good multipliers so it doesn't really matter

[eternal mantle]

whatsur dmg

on bubo

[slender sandal]

plus leveling aura up to multiples of 35 will extend the length

[tranquil surge]

for example im sittiing at 1b - 2.5b max hit

[eternal mantle]

ur fine

[obtuse rover]

Compared to the max-tier staff it will be a decent little decrease in damage, but you'll actually be killing more things with the gloves.

[tranquil surge]

so run the gloves?

oh bet

[eternal mantle]

with crit you'll be doing tremors no prayer easily

[tranquil surge]

its all for alch progress anyway

bandage wraps right

[obtuse rover]

Ultimately, isn't everything for alch progress?
(Except construction, which is for the sake of more construction)

[tranquil surge]

yeah so rush gloves :p

bandage wraps?

[obtuse rover]

No the stingers or whatever

[tranquil surge]

oh ok

sweet

[eternal mantle]

bis

[tranquil surge]

it halved my kph in the afk gains

[obtuse rover]

Potential for 3 upgrade slots + crafting bonus Wis, Oo baby

[obtuse rover]

You don't use gloves afk.
Bubo kills things infinitely faster actively

[tranquil surge]

ya was just checking that was norm

[eternal mantle]

bubo afk is fake

[tranquil surge]

can someone post the talent lineup

mines scuffed for active bubo

[eternal mantle]

this

probably

[tranquil surge]

yup cheers

[obtuse rover]

Yeah, there's some min-max where the aura or respawn flip for different maps, but either set-up is 100x better than anything else.

[eternal mantle]

you can do this if you really want

I mean it won't use it

but its there

[tranquil surge]

uhh for some reason

its not using the talents during auto

even tho its on in the settings?

[eternal mantle]

its doomed ig

[tranquil surge]

plus teleport

[obtuse rover]

You either have the character setting allowing it to use skills turned off, or more likely you have an ability on another bar.

[obtuse rover]

Literally take everything other than the 4/5 abilities in Eiji's pictures off your bars.

[tranquil surge]

oh had wrong abil in 2nd slot

got it

chuuurr

wasted the cc that time round but oh well

[eternal mantle]

zooo wee mama

[obtuse rover]

Congrats!

[eternal mantle]

I have no clue what to go for next tbh

[tranquil surge]

holy crap cheers fellas bubo is slapping now 🥲

finally getting some liquids in the storage haha

the book to the right of it eiji

get ancient/eld form

[pine yacht]

after that probably ancient them all

[tranquil surge]

i was always fixiated on gaming gains

that nugget gives mad dopamine

let alone the bits itself

[pine yacht]

couldnt be me last time I got nuggy increase before the equinox was like 7 months ago

[tranquil surge]

yeah im only at a 10k nug so lets not talk about it

[pine yacht]

XD

[tranquil surge]

but still its such a nice feeling

[pine yacht]

doing equinox takes away that dopamine tho

[tranquil surge]

havent got that bubble unlocked yet

feelsbadman

[pine yacht]

ah rip

[tranquil surge]

only just got the slow roast wiz unlocked

2 bubbles to go

[pine yacht]

ye that one is game changer as well

[tranquil surge]

yeah went from 50 highscore to 80 earlier on a run

[pine yacht]

pretty much the only 2 things worth your while in equinox

[tranquil surge]

actually nuts

[pine yacht]

oh and liquid

killroy is whatever imo

[tranquil surge]

i havent even done enough killroy runs to see the new unlocks

10 off the first one

[pine yacht]

cuz besides for tasks for equinox itself it's borderline useless

[obtuse rover]

Killroy is important to do, if only to level him up enough to clear the 2000 kill equinox task.

[pastel bramble]

gimme a damn 8 digit nug already

[pine yacht]

ye but reward from equinox that is only useful for equinox task makes it pretty much useless

[tranquil surge]

are the chef boots a pretty big upgrade?

[pine yacht]

depends on where u are in the game

but usually no

[tranquil surge]

sitting at about x12 eff

[pine yacht]

ye most likely not that much better than cooking clogs

[pastel bramble]

make them anyway u need slab 😄

[pine yacht]

true that

[tranquil surge]

yeah aight

[pine yacht]

is Persephones Bouqet ever better than Divine Scarf for sampling

[uncut ore]

what's the drop chance for the rift tear drops?

[pastel bramble]

for skills yes i think, easy way to check sample with both 😄

see which is higher

[pine yacht]

gonna have to farm at least 3 of those little shits

[pastel bramble]

u need 10 for divine trophy on everyone 😄

[pine yacht]

1 for BB, 1 for Vman and 1 for the rest for sampling

[pastel bramble]

so do 1 char at a time 😄

[pine yacht]

ah... fuck I forgor

[pastel bramble]

and they have to be gained with each char not 1 char

[pine yacht]

but the toof eint dropping 😭

[pastel bramble]

so dont make that mistake 😄

[pine yacht]

ye ik

the tooth drop rate is stupidly low XD

[pastel bramble]

oh actually its just wings u need to farm on each char

[tranquil surge]

one extra eff level

worth imo

[pastel bramble]

tooth u can farm on anyone i guess

[pine yacht]

it seems like chaotic is best in terms of rate to keys

[eternal mantle]

true

gaming is very important

[eternal dove]

slowly crawling this number up

[obtuse rover]

For tooth?
Normal is most efficient by keys but impossible in terms of your own time wasted.

[pine yacht]

ye but you need the scarf equiped

[pastel bramble]

yh thats easy the cape is hard part

so many keys needed for 10x drops 😂

and farming cape on maestro so slow

[pine yacht]

ye, chaotic seems the way to go here, nightmare uses way more keys for not that much more rate

[tranquil surge]

for kattle?

defs chaotic

[vapid mural]

how to fast use candy

[tranquil surge]

for teeth anyway

for cape no chance go nightmare

[pine yacht]

I did the task yesterday, my 1st BM was over 1h, Vman took like 20 min XD, the BM didnt have any combat talents booked

and I had vines so it kept healing until someone explained moles to me

[pastel bramble]

thankfully i gained a crap ton of dmg since i did the 10 kills on 10 chars

so should be much faster now

[pine yacht]

2nd BM ( dont... I know... I've suffered enough already ) I booked few talents and was waaaaaay faster

[pastel bramble]

beast master was fairly easy for me just max whales and popcorn

[pine yacht]

I am mainly doing 3 things now, cards, alch and soon statues

[pine yacht]

mine were all at 100, even traps

[pastel bramble]

yh ur probably far behind me in terms of talent books lol

half my chars are almost maxed now i think

until he releases another max level cap and ruins it

[pine yacht]

nono, I just never bothered booking them since they are lab slaves XD

[pastel bramble]

none of my chars get ignored now lol i learnt my lesson when trying to do nightmare kattle 😄

[pine yacht]

I dont have the slug tho :p

lul

same

[untold saffron]

When do you stop going for extra trash and start saving for the nameplate?

All the stamps are already bought

[pearl cedar]

Well nameplate sucks, but 9

[thorn oriole]

Click hold, enter, i, repeat

[hidden osprey]

is there any reason to craft lustre armor?

[thorn oriole]

Slab, and the boots for the skilling boots

Or if you really need it and too poor for troll

[hidden osprey]

im 5 days away from unfucking my refinery

will finally be able get these salts going xD

[untold saffron]

Hey now, all glory to the slab it will guide our way to end game

[pearl cedar]

Well slab is good, but nameplate sucks

[untold saffron]

Gotta dig deep to progress post-1400

[thorn oriole]

8

[obtuse night]

is there a cap on minor link bonuses in divinity? planing to leave everyone there to hit 100 divinity, but wondering if I can go higher or is cap at 100

[untold saffron]

I heard you can't realistically hit the cap

But I've never looked into it, just threw everyone on passive xp and forgot div exists

[edgy pendant]

I saw someone being told to hit 130 or 136, with a P bubble lvl i can’t remember

[patent hatch]

the Satan force is with me

[untold saffron]

I still need to push GT harder before W6

[snow light]

so for best exp i should do the highest AFK exp map but active?

[worthy skiff]

Today is a good day! now to read all the guides regarding chems

[true flint]

What do you all think will happen with my golden nug? Will it continue spitting out those in the thousands and eventually beat my 12,500 by only a few points (resetting equinox) or is it randomly going to spit out one in the millions on the in a few days?

[worthy skiff]

My last nugg went from 63k to 66k, I hope yours jumps 10x at least

[true flint]

Me too 😂been on that one for months, my shovel was on 50-75% at the time and is now 200%

[thorn marsh]

will I ever get to slab the items that I didn't drop on ground from w1 quests?

[true flint]

Don't think it works retrospectively

[steady beacon]

Do you upgrade all the kitchens fully? Speed, fire, luck on all, for the cabbage upgrade? Or did you only do speed on kitchens 2-10?

[true flint]

Actually, sorry - lab doesn't require drops, only looty shooty talent does

[true flint]

Doing luck will mean you can't do speed on the next one, so I'd do speed and fire

[patent hatch]

my golly gosh how I want chem so bad

I might break into song and dance (potentially hip hop) to increase my luck

[magic oyster]

With the way the costs scale, it's going to be cheaper to have luck-X level than 1 additional level of speed

With luck-X obviously giving you a lot more speed than 1 level of speed does

[steady beacon]

I was wondering because the lab upgrade that gives +1 to your lowest attribute seems kinda crap.

Unless you've done only speed upgrades on your kitchens, so it always upgrades speed

[true flint]

Well yeah I'm not saying never do the luck one, just that if you choose between one level for luck or one level for speed pick speed

[steady beacon]

Otherwise, it's only ever going to do luck, which is pointless on kitchens 2-10

[steady beacon]

I'm not following. Are you saying "upgrade luck if 10 upgrades are cheaper than the next kitchen's speed upgrade"?

[magic oyster]

Yes

Or something along those lines, exponential cost scaling makes it so that 1-80 luck is cheaper than 100-101 speed, stuff like that - depends how far in you are

[steady beacon]

Got it. So might as well upgrade everything I can, then. Including luck on the later kitchens.

(When it makes sense to)

[magic oyster]

Yeah, it's generally safe to upgrade speed/fire on all of them first, then do luck with any leftovers, can't screw it up that way

[ashen marsh]

Is there any way to select the boats underneath another boat?

[steady beacon]

Nope, it's a bad ui.

[ashen marsh]

[steady beacon]

You can recall it by doing the first half of a "delete captain" action.

But only if you know which numbered captain is in that boat.

Which you can't see in yours.

[ashen marsh]

darn

what do you have for your minimum here?

[hexed elm]

yeah sailing ui is poopoo

[storm kelp]

Overnight haul gets me halfway done with W4 statues (since I had a couple k from before)

[steady beacon]

Ooh, two lucky lads! Score!

What's your dr?

[storm kelp]

I have like 20 something now. Gonna be a few weeks probably until I can get all 75. DR is like 13.4

[steady beacon]

Also, 1k statues per hour - I wish I was getting those times.

Huh. I have 12.11 dr, and I feel like I'm getting way less drops.

[storm kelp]

Maybe just hold off on this until you done other stuff? I started statue hunting about 10 days ago and have gotten 15/25 done now.

hmm sorry then I dunno, do you have choco chip?

[steady beacon]

I do.

[storm kelp]

card multiplier chips?

[steady beacon]

Also.

[storm kelp]

upgraded your cards to at least 4?

[steady beacon]

Yep!

[storm kelp]

hmmmm

[steady beacon]

To be fair, im now working on the last 12 statues, which is mostly w3.

And the bullseye.

[storm kelp]

W3 is the worst, I am saving that for last because you need ES for that and it takes forever

[steady beacon]

Maybe if I went back to the w1 and 2 statues, I'd have similar drops to you.

Haven't tested the early statues in a while.

[storm kelp]

Haven't done bullseye either. Gonna do W5 after W4 and then maybe bullseye and then W3

You are doing the 2 toughest ones

[steady beacon]

I have w1 and 4 done, and two thirds of w2.

But it's taken me a lot longer than you. ^^

It I don't mind, I know this'll turbo boost my account when I'm done.

[storm kelp]

I used like 300 hours of candies for the fishingman statue though. Did it as a combo with vman to get the lucky lad on him

[steady beacon]

Oh, right. That one sucks. I'm getting around 250-300 every 6 hours on my maestro.

But by the time I'm done with the others, vman should be done too

[storm kelp]

The quickest turbo I had recently was doing a couple more vman runs, maxing the cooking talent to 245 and then upgrading my meals a lot. It did not take long and did so much

[steady beacon]

True! I'm working on my level 30 plates atm.

[storm kelp]

maestro or vman?

[radiant wren]

So I was thinking about how to slap the lab bonuses on everyone and thought to myself, why bother going for aquaduct of the gods now that I have 99% overflow.. Seems like outside of maybe a few mroe presses at once of grindtime in one go I lose out overall?

[storm kelp]

I didn't have to work on them after this. It was instant 35+ from like 20ish something

Always go for the lowest hanging fruit I would say. If statue hunting isn't it then maybe pause for a few days? I amtkaing mini breaks here and there to boost my guys with stamps, alchemy, cooking and stuff so I don't struggle the whole way with just statues

[steady beacon]

Vman.

[ashen marsh]

which upgrade should I focus on guys?

[steady beacon]

Woah. Whats your cooking speed now?

[storm kelp]

good question, I'm listening

[steady beacon]

Mines 3108Q

[storm kelp]

183QQQ

[steady beacon]

Good lord

[storm kelp]

vmans cooking talnet is a must to max if you can

[steady beacon]

It's not maxed, but it's close.

Your kitchens must be very high.

I only have 8 kitchens at the moment. Working on the gold for the next.

[storm kelp]

I was exaggurating a bit, my meals are 75% over 30, a couple at 40+ and a few from 25-30 cause I haven't spent ladles on them yet (which I should even though I am saving 100k ladles)

[storm kelp]

I have 8 as well. I have not unlocked the last spice even lol. I just got my #1 kitchen to lvl 300 but everything else is lower

[steady beacon]

How close are you to 50?

[ashen marsh]

7 lvls away lol

[crystal adder]

The lab effects let's the Shrine to be affected on that specific world if you place it in the town right? Then was it Doot who make it affected everywhere?

[steady beacon]

Nope, it's an artifact.

[steady beacon]

Yeah, not sure then! I've put a few levels into past present, that one has helped with unlocking new pets.

[crystal adder]

Ahh Moai Head

[errant star]

wtf I used 2 12 hour candies on bleach logs with each candy rewarding 302m logs, when I picked them up and banked it was like 100m total, did the logs just disappear????

If that's the case should I just stop using candies on gathering? 😒

[steady beacon]

You need to upgrade your storage

I don't recall how it works exactly, but it caps your drops at some point, based on your carry cap.

[errant star]

I did not know that, I thought since I have ram I can just slam candies and pick up and deposit as freely as I want

[steady beacon]

Yeah. It's not clear to me either - maybe someone else can explain it later

[lilac steppe]

@errant star Do you have your atom collider on? sounds like you do and it ate everything above 100m

I haven't touched my bm to level him really and need to for some equinoix bubbles...is there any reason to active him for exp? or is that just worse gains period?

[magic oyster]

As far as I know, active xp will always be higher, even for BM - having an extra source of xp mult ( xp while active ) is better than any afk stack you can do

[lilac steppe]

kk, wasn't sure if I'd be shooting myself in the foot leaving him murdering overnight

[magic oyster]

It's better, but still pretty terrible 8( I dread BM levelling time

[errant star]

I have but it's set to 1bill

[eternal dove]

1 more level plsssssss

[viral snow]

Your drops are bundled as stacks
Lets say 5
Your carry cap is full at 4.5 stacks
You visually pick up everything but half a stack gets lost

[errant star]

Sadge

[storm kelp]

splicing in W4, best map?

just got the splicer, was a pain to get all those batteries xD

[viral snow]

Probably cans or floms I guess
The more kills you can get the better
But for optimal splicing youd need to do 2min claims

[storm kelp]

I always just do 1 hour candies since I got so many and don't have patience 🙂

I jsut checked them all, sod cans, then tvs, then I forget but flombs was like 3rd, 4th or 5th best I think

[vagrant ridge]

Whats the max Gold Nugget at gaming?
Just got a f... 2'381'423!!!!

[storm kelp]

nice one

[eternal dove]

help... i just harvested all on 20 t5+ chems like just a few hours ago.... idk where they keep coming from and at this point im too afraid to ask

[eternal dove]

welcome to the 7 digit club

[storm kelp]

I am at like 5.99 digit club xD

[eternal dove]

you want these chems?

[errant star]

Lucker noob

[storm kelp]

Only for the 1000 chem achivement. Atm I have not picked a single plant in weeks cause I lost my snail (didn't know about or could afford the last atom collider bonus) so I have been trying to get my plants to lvl 6. Got 2 of them done but the rest are just untouched for the moment

[eternal dove]

idk if its luck or not. i can get like 14ish chems in my garden within like a day

[dense prism]

its skill based you are just better than us 🤷‍♂️

[eternal dove]

i feel this. my snails at 19 now and i have the lvl 20 snail atom upgrade but if it fails and resets to 15 i might cry

[storm kelp]

Mine went from 8 to 0 so I just didn't have any reason to touch a plant since then other than getting 2 unique ones of each to try to max my plant lvls

[eternal dove]

literally harvested all 3 hours ago on 20 t5+ chems and now im back here again..

[errant star]

What's the relation between the chem plant and snail?

[eternal dove]

the snail is bioengineered mutant snail bc it was injected with chem plants

[storm kelp]