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[granite grove]

alchemy class bonus multi on carpenter bubble

[urban gorge]

I do

[thorn marsh]

DK's construction skills only work when they're active

[urban gorge]

TF

[thorn marsh]

talents*

[urban gorge]

seriously?

[thorn marsh]

zuper zeriously

[green eagle]

Then your DK is set up very poorly. DK farms crystals significantly better than bubo

You will get thousands of statues per hour and only a few hundred on bubo.

[urban gorge]

I get several K on bubo/hr

~600 power, I don't count the rest

[thorn marsh]

600 power/h is not a good amount

compared to DK

[granite grove]

with equal investment and setup, its statisically impossible for Bubo to get more drops than DK due to how orb DR multi works

[thorn marsh]

kind of hard to compare the two unless you have them both maxed in all the vital talents tbf - gotta trust the giganerds and their number crunching

[granite grove]

900 orb score is basically rerolling through the loot table 9 extra times

[vagrant mountain]

it's pretty night and day when you farm both of them at tremor wurms, it's a solid 5-6x more statues/golden food on DK vs bubo

[thorn marsh]

but if the dude has a full functioning bubo and a dk with a lvl 100 orb, I'm getting why he can't see it

[twilit pagoda]

do i adventaully get to fight the totorial boss

im on world 2 moon cherry area

[vagrant mountain]

you need 267 orb with mana po box for 100% uptime on the orb

if you have a bad DK, bubo actually faster but that doesnt mean you should farm statues on bubo

[nimble palm]

I got a tip to not max mana box and just get the orb to 300+

[thorn marsh]

everyone aggrees - I'm just trying to stand up for the guy claiming his bubo was getting better statues he's obviously wrong and we're right, but we're here to learn

[granite grove]

yeah but thats in w4 btw

[thorn marsh]

yeah, else it resets cause of cooldown

[untold basin]

what is the dmg needed to kill nightmare kattlekruck with vman?

[nimble palm]

Yeah, managed to get 950 orbs that way

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, you'll need exactly lvl 300 orb but you will also need max talent books and rift slug for that, so better to use po box reset when you are at that point

[granite grove]

or if want to avoid respeccing when you got extra talent lvs from ES level ups, could go for like 297-299ish too

[autumn hollow]

Has anyone had the starter hat actually drop from Moonmen? My ES has been there for a while with over 100m kills, and I still don't have it =/

[urban gorge]

Alrigth, just geared the DK, let's give it a whirl

[prisma drift]

I’ve gotten plenty of starter hats candying ghosts

[urban gorge]

1.3b dmg vs bubo 8b

[prisma drift]

/doing the eclipse

[autumn hollow]

Thanks, guess I am just unlucky =/

[urban gorge]

DK seems way slower than Bubo

[granite grove]

not enough investment clearly

work on it more

[zinc torrent]

Hi, I have a question. I had all 9 shrines on the town map in w5, but there is allways one shrine that don't level up - is this a bug and what could I do?

[raven fog]

idk but wha ik is put shrines in w 4

[autumn hollow]

Is it not going up at all, or just slower?

[zinc torrent]

that does't change the things one of them is not selectable

[teal lynx]

Do you have the shrine unlocked in Construction?
Is it really placed in W5 Town?

[zinc torrent]

yes all unlocked and placed in w5 now, i have tested with one of them in w4 but nothing changes

[teal lynx]

Have personally never heard of Shrines not leveling. And without further information I unfortunately can't help you

[zinc torrent]

ok thanks all, I test it further xD

[teal lynx]

What was the optimal setup for cooking exp via ballons?

CEfaunt, Mutated Mush, Medium Resources Card Set, Acorn Topper, Maestro Transfusion and Warriors specific Skill XP Talent is what I can think of. Did I miss something?

[nimble palm]

Just got a 997 orb, didn’t manage to screenshot

[worthy skiff]

Should this be enough for nm kattle? I never managed to outrun/kill all mobs with around 30B so I'm trying to compensate the lack of skill with a bit more dmg

[sick sentinel]

Should be fine i would think, gotta make sure to spam abilities on mobs

The dmg is good, the attack speed may be a tad slow

But its def doable

[zinc torrent]

I have solved the problem - its only a placement problem

[green eagle]

got this task finished this morning, slab is still missing a bunch though

i'm going with IE on this one, you can't even get some of the dungeon items on IT's slab lol

[cursive flare]

https://i.imgur.com/1gk447y.png
This quest is referring to these cogs right? Mine has a hard time updating to see how its storing it. Trying to figure out what it wants me to do
https://i.imgur.com/uQL6ctE.png

[sick sentinel]

you need 48 of those on the cog board

[cursive forge]

did I randomly get a 69 damage check

lmfao

[sick sentinel]

do you have dice star talent on

[cursive forge]

oh ye

I still havent managed to get a trophy yet

sadge

[outer path]

W6 today?

[fathom lagoon]

I finally got one after a loooong time

While farming statues lol

[dusty sand]

Its going to take soooooo long to get the 20k power statues.... I hate it

[elfin idol]

Dicier Dynamo when

[fading cape]

gonna be the least of your worries by the end of statue farming

[dusty sand]

someone ever read that lool

[fathom lagoon]

You got choco chip? If not don’t even bother

[dusty sand]

i have not

[outer path]

Anyone know which time the game will be updated?

[granite grove]

wait until you farm 20k of each mob specific statues thats not available from crystal mobs

[fathom lagoon]

They were joking w you, w6 not comin today brother

[fathom lagoon]

I’d wait til you have that before starting. 100x better

[dusty sand]

sure thing

[outer path]

👍

[polar light]

What you mean update was on monday

[timid drift]

does the superbit "no more prayers" works only on the toon if i have no prayers on him or do i got take prayers out of all the toons to work?

[polar light]

Per character basis

[thorn marsh]

have you made it to w6 colo yet?

[polar light]

Yeah but the score bugged. Won't register my 450m points for a quest

[gaunt parcel]

[vapid cove]

lava stealth drops often so who knows

[gaunt forge]

how much does the sodium (the snail one) increase every time u level it up in the atom thingy

[uncut hull]

choco chip comes into rotation soon so just wait for that b4 you start focusing statues

[swift pecan]

@gaunt forge 5 levels

[dusty sand]

okiii

[gaunt forge]

wait thats crazy i thought it was just 1 level per lol

[uncut hull]

nope

snail to lvl 5 but don't go further til you get Na

then don't go past 10 before second Na upgrade

and so on so on

or do

[next locust]

Wish it was 1 per level (adjusted cost of course)

[uncut hull]

you could be the luckiest guy ever

[gaunt forge]

i havnt failed an upgrade yet and its lvl 11 but i still haved my sodium on 5 so i gotta focus that

[daring ravine]

pretty sure its sodium

[prisma drift]

Sodium is Na

[next locust]

English is weird

[prisma drift]

That’s science

It’s the periodic table

[sick sentinel]

[next locust]

That's Natrium for most other folk. Why make it difficult englisu?

Remind me again what's K in english?

Kalium?

[prisma drift]

I wanna say potassium?

[next locust]

Ah yesh that

[prisma drift]

I am not that good at science lol

I could be very wrong

[next locust]

Makes my brain go drrr when I try to science in english

[prisma drift]

Wow it is potassium

I learned something tho

I didn’t know other European countries used different names

[coral ravine]

does gold pocket watch affect free companion cooldown?

[prisma drift]

I figured it would more standardized

[next locust]

Yeh those are different for english and.. I'd want to say french but don't quote me on that. Probs has a valid historical reason tho

[next locust]

No, sadly

[coral ravine]

weak.

[prisma drift]

Lol you thought lava would give more companions

That’s lavas main income rn

[crisp willow]

Just got to w5. Do I immediately put my chars into divinity?

[coral ravine]

When i get doot, imma slap the shit out of him.

[next locust]

"When" xD

Sorry I was mean I go now

[dire tinsel]

a bunch of my 1b multikill progress has beenrolled back, any else?

[elfin idol]

Was it done with vman? He loses contrib after speedrun

[gaunt shale]

did your first vman run recently ?

[dire tinsel]

ohhhh. all his contirbution was lost eh?

that's pretty lame.

[elfin idol]

His portal progresses catches up to your highest too

[gaunt shale]

after every run reset to 2m for all mobs, cuz otherwise gmush would go trough the roof

[dire tinsel]

Yea fair enough, imma take my vman off kc farm lol

[next locust]

What's scary about this is I've found it sometimes hard to remember it's called ananas after spending so much time in the interwebs. Those pineapple pizza memes are at fault

[green eagle]

it's pretty quick with DK and choco chip at beans

[teal lynx]

Ananas

[green eagle]

chart intentionally skips the 2nd most spoken language in the world, Spanish, to go straight to the 3rd most spoken language in the world, English, just to make fun of it.

[fading cape]

pretty sure Hindi is the second and Mandarin is the first. But hey, I'm always happy to take a jab at the english language

[green eagle]

hindi isn't, only has roughly 344million speakers

[next locust]

You're probs both right or wrong depending on if you're talking about first languages or total speakers

[fading cape]

oh wow. google has all of these way different year by year too

[green eagle]

india has a ton of different languages in it and hindi is just the most common

[fading cape]

4 years apart and different metrics and totally different

Not like it matters at all to me anyway. I only speak one and I'm bad at that one anyway

[next locust]

Personally I find it hard to sum all english under one language anyway. There's other languages that are closer to each other than what english from around the world is

[sacred verge]

now whats requierd to qualify as "speaking" a language?

[green eagle]

my reference is native speakers, as in your first language

[next locust]

Nod at the right times during a conversation

Works wonders. Half of my friends still have no idea I don't speak english

[fading cape]

hol up

[green eagle]

if you change that to "spoken" language, as in you can speak it, english is the most spoken language in the world

[prisma drift]

Right but I was talking about like stuff for science

I figured it would be easier if things were standardized between countries

But I am a fool clearly

[elfin idol]

Its standardised by making people speak English. same as aeroplane radio etc

[next locust]

Yeh the whole convo started from atoms and shifted after the ananas pic

[fading cape]

I mean some of those elements on the periodic table were discovered and calles specific things long before the world became able to communicate. You can't very well go back and tell people in another part of the world, "Look chap. We've decided this bit is called Iron, you see we put it on this chart? You're going to need to call it that now, don't really care what you used to call it. ta ta"

[elfin idol]

You just described how England colonised tbf

[next locust]

I'm really just nodding furiously to my phone. Your mind just interpretes it as text in a language you know.

[fading cape]

yeah that's fair.

[daring ravine]

not from an english speaking country
fair enough

[sacred verge]

what would improve the world is if everyone would move over to the metric system

[daring ravine]

thats what i thought

[gaunt shale]

pretty much everyone has

[fading cape]

I'll just be happy to get rid of daylight savings. Just tired of remembering honestly

[sacred verge]

alot of the world dont use the metric system

sadly

[next locust]

I can't really agree on the first part. Natrium/Kalium were discovered fairly recently (1700/1800?) and there definitely was a world wide scientific community back then. English speaking world just adopted words that are derived from potash and soda instead of the names the guy who first distinguished them called them.

[gaunt shale]

Myanmar, Liberia, and the United States

if they want to measure stuff with their feet, not my problem

[next locust]

Whaat liberia uses feets?

[thin escarp]

the history of liberia evexplains why they use it too. SHort version: slaves from US left and made their own country.

[sacred verge]

also you have those stupid weight and liquid mesurements and on and on

why use lbs whan you can use kg, i dotn get it

dont*

[prisma drift]

It’s not about telling someone what to call something it’s coming together to agree on a name to make advancing that field easier by being able to communicate effectively haha

[elfin idol]

Its mainly the older brits here who still use lbs and stones, and then its just weighing yourself

[prisma drift]

That’s what I was thinking

[teal lynx]

Nah bro just put 1/12 cup into this. Oh your Cup isn't the same size as a normal US cup? Too bad

[elfin idol]

We'll never stop using pints though

[next locust]

Pint is a good measurement tbh I agree

[sacred verge]

i dont get why everyone wont just follow the SI-system

[elfin idol]

Gammons would riot before you took pints away

[gaunt shale]

fk pints, Masskrug is where its at

[elfin idol]

thats just 2 pints lmao

[tacit tulip]

all the pubs are going out of business anyway. Only cans left

[gaunt shale]

yeah, and why would I order 2 pints if I can order a Masskrug instead

[hollow osprey]

how much dmg etc is needed to reach rift 46 for ruby cards?

[elfin idol]

Milk though, milks pricelocked it affects peoples mood that much

[next locust]

About 80bil was enough for me if I remember correctly

[tacit tulip]

oooh I didn't notice, hit 20k wis!

[gaunt shale]

ngl, if milk gets too expensive for me to enjoy my cinnamon toast crunch I am rioting

[hollow osprey]

damn

[sacred verge]

should i buy halloween candy to get all the hats?

[vital tusk]

any full auto wurm catacombs set ups?

[gaunt shale]

if you got nothing else to spend gems on, why not ?

what I got from buying all

[sacred verge]

not bad

might be worth just for the candy

[tacit tulip]

mostly saving my gems for w6 now

[sacred verge]

true, might be smart saving some for that aswell

[tall horizon]

Week 2 respawn comparison

Im thinking respawn only applies to the base mobs, not the additional (if it works at all). Think im done putting points into it, feels like a waste.

[swift pecan]

Which character/map is best for bullseye statues?

[tacit tulip]

ES at woodshrooms

[swift pecan]

I think it says es at wood mush, gonna have to jump on the computer so I don't have to zoom in so much.

[green eagle]

2k kruk keys down so far and no cape, obol or necklace drop yet

just had to complain 😤

[vital tusk]

i know the feeling

[dapper prism]

What would you mean with base mobs?
Also yeh, it feelsdamn terrible xD

[zinc torrent]

i just wanna be 100% sure this thing is off right?

[dapper prism]

yup

but usually rather keep it on until you unlock chem x3

[zinc torrent]

even if im afk for like 5 hours?

[tall horizon]

The "natural" mobs that appear on the map normally. The other spawns (like with revive talents) probably are not affected by it.

Im gonna bump the pearls/dungeon to 10, just in case. Then purely into time again

[dapper prism]

5h afk isnt really much especially for early gaming cycles that are still long tbh

[dapper prism]

Thought revive doesnt really work, now im confused xD

[tall horizon]

it does

They just only trigger on the mobs that are available in the map normally. If you watch a raise dead trigger, you can see those repsawn and get ticked. Just doesn't occur on the other mobs

This week's wood shroom for me, raise dead worked on these mobs, but not the ones spawning on the other platforms.

[dapper prism]

just realized its weekly, too asleep to remember what and if i needed to do anything
https://i.imgur.com/kHEVsnb.png

Oh Islands!

[worthy skiff]

about to spend 5.4k or until I get bored on a sad 14.35% DR to try and get some necks

[worthy skiff]

lmao, 3 runs. 1 down, 9 more to go.

[lavish cloak]

What conditions lead to 2k kills?

[tall horizon]

Time

[dapper prism]

Like 150 timer

[lavish cloak]

I was counting on respawn to be better. Lol

[tall horizon]

Time and bubo is the easiest, dk can also do it, but much more difficult and only on specific maps

[tall horizon]

Respawn seems to be worse than time 🤷

[next locust]

What are the maps this reset?

[tall horizon]

🤷 My reset isnt for 4.5 days lol

[vital tusk]

is there any speed increasing gear? besides food

[next locust]

Efaunt boots?

[tall horizon]

A few pieces, generally not worth using over standard gear though'

[dapper prism]

Maybe shimmer

[vital tusk]

its for my shimmer island

[tall horizon]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=^(%3F!.*(for every)).(movement%7Cmove).(speed%7Cspd)

[vital tusk]

ty guys

might as well max it ifts not to rough rihgt?

[next locust]

Better to increase your food effectiveness instead tbh.

[pine yacht]

FINALLY... been gaming since it's release...

[dapper prism]

Gz!

[vital tusk]

well that can be added ono it as well

[worthy skiff]

is it worth to use upgrade stone sk with divine scarf or should I just stick to upgrade stone v? considering I have limited (1) scarfs

[wraith granite]

is there a guide for increasing ladles/h?

ops

[teal lynx]

Mostly Cooking Efficiency: Gear, Stamp
Afk gain%. Things like Cards, gear and Snake God

[hollow osprey]

max dr of gold dice is 8% right

[calm gust]

What's the odds for giant mobs to spawn

Is it too long

[polar light]

Depends

[high dune]

bruv why can't i get any artifacts man wtf

it's been so long

[polar light]

Skill issue

[high dune]

can't even get a ancient fury 😢

[calm gust]

I cant get a giant mob

[vapid cove]

takes time on average maybe a week or 2 for a new artifact

[high dune]

it's been a month or more

[vapid cove]

well you got the basic ones and are going after the superior versions?

[high dune]

yeah

[high dune]

i mean not all basic ones

[vapid cove]

take off your seige's chest upgrading thing

and just go for quantity

[high dune]

tryna get an ancient fury then back basics

i can't check every 4 hr man

[vapid cove]

then just a waiting game

[high dune]

rip

[vapid cove]

or a lot of sailing potions

[hollow osprey]

have u equipped the giant prayer

[hidden osprey]

why do i sometimes get a huge sailing upgrade?

[twin sluice]

i just unlocked construct mastery lvl1000 (+100 max lvl for talent library)
i restarted the game and its still shows max lvl 220 in the library. it is bugged?

[teal lynx]

Talent Library in Construction, not Max Talent Book level

[twin sluice]

ohhhhh

thats a big bummer lol

but ty

[rough plaza]

when at the dock is there an easy way to know which captain gives which stats and which captains whitch, same for the map...

no idea which i havbe doing what and i hate it

[dapper prism]

Check IE, the jumps depend on loot/speed are like every 7th or 8th upgrade. always want to get past it.

[dapper prism]

make sure you got it all setup right, you know, buffs from things like gold hampters spread on all alts, lvling the sailing bubble, PO Box, maybe using some omni. Everything helps.
Check it multiple times a day and remove SB talent 11

[high dune]

damn alright

[surreal oxide]

whats the best map for active bubo afk if im going to be gone for 1 week lol

[dapper prism]

Just go with your best CC map like wurms, filter main drops

Also filter the potions

[safe harness]

every 7 levels is a milestone, every 8 for loot...check IE and you can see how much you need left to upgrade

[calm gust]

Any tips for crystal carrot farming?

[dapper prism]

DK, Choco chip and card doubles, crystal cards and DR.
https://i.imgur.com/ACWNC2b.png

[calm gust]

Dk?

[dapper prism]

Divine knight 🤔

[fading oracle]

do viodwalker talent points from speedrunning do not transfer to the second preset???

[sick sentinel]

they do, put a point in the speedrun talent

[dapper prism]

They do, you just need to put a point into the first talent that gives you the talents

[sick sentinel]

then swap pages

[calm gust]

Also what's dr and choco chip

[fading oracle]

ohhh thank you guys 🙂

[sick sentinel]

dont forget the chess talent on mman page is more void page points

[sick sentinel]

choco chip is a lab chip

[dapper prism]

Drop rate and a lab chip

[calm gust]

O which map btw

[dapper prism]

If you are unsure about all this, you should honestly just watch some youtube vids

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/beans-its-beans-beans-in-computer-gif-21443291

[calm gust]

Ok thx

[prisma moss]

does this give the points and xp?

[pulsar heart]

normal difficulty bosses are best for farming gems right

[fading oracle]

but did my deathnote kills on g mush got reset from speedrunning?

[dapper prism]

Idk why but i cant put an emoji on your msg. but yeh

[dapper prism]

Vman kills get set to 2mil, but instead they can alway reach any zone your highest zone alt is at.

[fading oracle]

weird interaction, so is it never viable to farm g mush with vman then?

[sharp egret]

For these that have killed nightmare Kattlecruk with all characters, how much damage did your vman have?

[dapper prism]

30-50b with maxed fist talents should do, theres info and a vid in the pins

[sharp egret]

ah thx. so about 5-8 times my current damage, though still sooner than I expected^^

[dull lance]

Is studious quester for fighting or skilling?

[dapper prism]

The bonus is skill efficiency

[ocean knot]

With doot, are lab functions active that I can’t reach yet?
Or do I need to still level up lab enough on all characters to reach the furthest ones

[dull lance]

Then is for skilling ?

Or fighting skills

[dapper prism]

Why would lab nods be active?

[sharp egret]

you still need to arrange your characters to reach them all, but having all 10 for that helps

[dapper prism]

Fighting doesnt have efficiency, for fighting it's Multikill. (the 2x 3x etc kills)
It's Skill Efficiency as in your skills which affects Prowess. (the 2x 3x etc materials)

[dull lance]

Ok thx

[ocean knot]

Oh right, misread the wiki. So around lab 75 on each is enough to do that?

[dapper prism]

Either way you'd want ~75 so you can maximize chips over time. Depends on all your other bonuses that increase line width

[teal lynx]

And at some point 1000 levels across your toons for Skill Mastery (Rift)

[hollow rain]

Does the BM upgraded skill also work afk like the forge one or only active?

[pearl pebble]

how do i get a high flag score on SB?

[polar light]

Low flag level and kill quickly

[astral vapor]

Didn't know Nightmare had this much hp xD. I guess I try to go for 1 kill and hope for a card...

[zinc torrent]

does anyone know how to easily farm atoms???

[ruby yarrow]

why is this achievement not working

it says I only have 33

but I have 120+

[rapid locust]

Hope you don't have anything else planned for your guys today 😂

[ruby yarrow]

anyways I can make this work?

[half thistle]

I've had the same issue with this'n

[astral vapor]

its either that or sugma for recipie. this seems more fun rn xD

[dapper prism]

You just need to scroll past yout guild page back and forth to your name for it to update

[dapper prism]

are you on steam?

[sick wolf]

what prayers do you guy run with?

[ruby yarrow]

yes

[dapper prism]

My Prayers / Prayer Setup
All - No 10h caps, as the xp buff is minimal and irrelevant. Only time you could think about it, is if you plan to candy a lot of skill levels.

Bubo - No beefy cause survivability. Can use the DR/money ones here but currently afk gmush.
DK - DR/Money ones cause active statue grind (ES isnt allowed to use those)
Es - Isn't allowed to use Money/DR prayers in most cases.
Vman - Could use the DR one if i went boss grinding with him, more likely i'd forget and end up with the hp debuff during void run.

https://i.imgur.com/6E0Owim.png

[half thistle]

aha, I had to specifically do it as the character whose name shows up in the guild list

[sick wolf]

Thank You

[dull ember]

How to use candy in world 5

[fast grail]

No beefy on bubo seems like FMJ slacker

[fading oracle]

You Cant until W6 releases

[worthy skiff]

should midas minded (DR one) be leveled up to max or any specific point?

[teal lynx]

Max!

Dr is best stat in this game :)

[sacred verge]

damn, jackpot today with the halloween candy, 3 premium hats on 50 boxes

[bright vine]

How does biggie hours card work?

[tacit tulip]

he adds a % chance to get double exp whjen claiming afk gains, specifically

[bright vine]

Just xp?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

[bright vine]

Terrible, thanks

[tacit tulip]

decent for skilling but otherwise not needed, yeah

chance stacks with this bubble, think it caps but can't remember how high

[polar light]

Double XP is pretty cool

Makes a difference when you on the grind

[pearl pebble]

the reset timer for shop by default is 3PM est, right?

cuz i used 8 watches to rewind it 2 hours (15 min each) and it only set it back 15 minutes.

[polar light]

My shop reset is midnight est

[worn sonnet]

Hell yeah

[hollow osprey]

there is no default one

your daily reset depends on the time you started the game the first time

[sick sentinel]

I think its somewhere around 70-75% from all sources

[zealous niche]

Further modified by how much you lag while playing too

Mine started at 11am local time, it’s now 8pm local time

[dapper prism]

You sure u had them in the right spot too?

[zealous niche]

I sent mine 2hours later to that mistake

[dapper prism]

Mine was around midnight, slkightly after, now around 11 AM after 7 months.
Although for most of us around 3-4h of our desync apparenyl came from that one random server desync or something?

[zealous niche]

Have you done a cloudsave as well @pearl pebble ? Just to check it all synced well

[dapper prism]

All I'm waiting for are the platinum or lava stopwatches "reset weekly"

[pearl pebble]

yep

[pearl pebble]

what is a cloud save?

[dapper prism]

click player, then greeen button at the top left

[zealous niche]

When you go to the player selection page it also cloud saves

[polar light]

This would be nice

[zealous niche]

The one where all your chars are standing there in a line

@pearl pebble that button

[normal dew]

is there some calculator/sheet for the trade deal achievement?

[dapper prism]

toolbox has the schedule

[normal dew]

i need to somehow calculate my loot bonus to get 777 trade

[plain oxide]

Is the anvil tab 5 armor (magma core) considered BIS till world 6 releases?

[proud pumice]

for some things kattle is better but magma is really good

[dapper prism]

Just, check the schedule, and divide the stuff and multiply it to 777?

[plain oxide]

allright, I'll just build out magma then for most

[dapper prism]

Magma better for sample.
Kattle top+legs with Magma head+feet better for the (mob respawn) which increases your afk kph.
Kattle head+feet with Magma top+legs better for active DR/dmg

Essentially you would mix and match depending on what you are doing (afk kills vs active DR type of stuff)

Although on someone without insta respawn mechanics youd want kattle top/legs
Bubo/ES would like the extra stats from magma (for more money and/or more dmg for wormhole push)

[plain oxide]

Oooh this is a good big of info, ok thank you. And yes this makes sense.

[proud pumice]

kattle has DR and respawn rate which is better than all stats for fighting, but for skilling magma is the best

[plain oxide]

Gottcha!

[tall horizon]

respawn, not afk gain

[proud pumice]

oh

i don't have them unlocked yet so i spoke from memory which was wrong

[dapper prism]

Sorry my wording may be a bit eh. Just mean that you use it for the afk grind stuff, not afk gain itself.

[proud pumice]

i said the wrong thing, your explanation was fine

i said kattle has afk gains

[dapper prism]

Still fixed it just incase 😄

@tall horizon how many greenstacks did you have before equinox 200 req.?

[tall horizon]

i wanna say ~194

[dapper prism]

oh, not shabby

I assume you didnt have statues yet?

[tall horizon]

205 and climbing now, gotta be ready for new tasks

Nope, was in the process of working on them though

[dapper prism]

yeh, so kinda "easy" with having the rough stuff

Really want that unlock xD but damn the greenstack grind is rough..

[tall horizon]

I got lucky that I was already pushing it lol

well.. less lucky and more... had nothing else to do I suppose

[pearl cedar]

Been at 197 for like a week

[tranquil sail]

whats my fastest way to get a lucky lad with vman

[plain oxide]

I'm doing the statue grind probably way out of order from what I should be lol

[tranquil sail]

like map or w.e

[pearl cedar]

Candy dreadlo

[tranquil sail]

ok thanks many blessing for you ❤️

[pearl cedar]

Tropilogs or bugs probably faster but dreadlo at least gives good mining exp

[dapper prism]

just remember to actually set up your stuff properly too

[little pagoda]

I've been out of meta discussion for a month or so, how do people gather equinox materials? Sampling?

[pearl cedar]

Yeah high afk, dr, 1x eff, and max speed

[grizzled elk]

1 big candy is better than multiple smaller candies

[bold quiver]

grabbing plunderous stacks and leveling up, 2 birds 3 stones

[dapper prism]

Whats the 3rd stone? 😄

[pearl pebble]

oh yea i do that

also is idle skilling trophy even worth it

[zealous niche]

Drop rate I think

[pearl cedar]

If you want good samples

[finite lake]

Is there an updated Onyx Statue guide or is the pinned one the latest information?

[vapid warren]

Who should I farm gold twine with?

Its not in a super rare drop table but it is ... super rare (in a sense)

[finite lake]

If it's on the main card, ES is the way to go

[vapid warren]

Kk

[dapper prism]

Nothing really the update, mobs or drops havnt changed 🤷

[vapid warren]

I remember hearing someone talking about saving all statues at once and turn in all at once on each character? Is that a thing?

[pastel bramble]

anyone got a 20m+ nuggie yet? 😄

[sour oasis]

someone has a 300m nugget

[pastel bramble]

dang

[weak vector]

Save extras. When you get all of the statues onyx, those extras are worth more

[dapper prism]

Mainly you'd just save them all until you get onyx and preferably snakeskin vial 100% to get the most out of your deposited statues.

[weak vector]

I think each onyx multiplies what you have by 10% (could be wrong on that number) so having all onyx statues means anything you turn in is worth a lot more

[vapid warren]

Alright, gotta start saving then 3:

[pastel bramble]

and here was me happy with my tiny 7m i got more digging to do

[vapid warren]

What is your gaming lvl Michael?

[pastel bramble]

228

[vapid warren]

Oh wow, I feel like I havent gotten lucky with my nugget in forever

[dapper prism]

Think it was 7x statues per 1x statue deposited with all onyx unlocked and snakeskin

[vapid warren]

its at 5k, im only at 110 gaming tho

[pastel bramble]

ur probably new to gaming though ive been doing it since release+1month

[zealous niche]

You have the equinox nug upgrade?

[dapper prism]

Nugget* has nothing to do with gaming lvl tbh

[bold quiver]

300M nuggets? wtf

[vapid warren]

not yet, havent reached that yet

[dapper prism]

All you need/do is Equinox unlock and do a ton of chem trains

[dapper prism]

Think it was one of those Rule 4 ppl.

[bold quiver]

my max range nugget is already showing 56M but mine is still 534k range, havent been lucky

[bold quiver]

game testers!

[pastel bramble]

oh did they update idle eff to show the equinox % ?

[bold quiver]

toolbox

[pastel bramble]

whats toolbox

[zealous niche]

Idleon toolbox

[dapper prism]

My range is 20k-30m about atm. My nugget is 1m and I've seen about 5-6x 400-800k nuggets since yesterday, kinda scared ill only get a small increase :/

[bold quiver]

i have this saved but i will wait until i hit jackpot to spend

[zealous niche]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[pastel bramble]

thanks 😄

[vapid warren]

Whats the easiest way to get 100k seconds of CC

[bold quiver]

go to citrines map?

[vapid warren]

My Bubo isn't insanely geared, just now reaching end w5

[zealous niche]

200 CC Tenteyecle and Ghost

[bold quiver]

before citrines its hard hard to get 100k

[dapper prism]

#1165326429102280735
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[zealous niche]

Without those talent levels you’re screwed

Oh! A guide for it

[bold quiver]

u dont need 200 tentacle for 100k cranium, not even close o.o

[vapid warren]

@dapper prism tyty

[zealous niche]

Trickz, perhaps you should mention in there about 200 tenteyecle being critical

[bold quiver]

its not critical wtf

[zealous niche]

It’s not?

[bold quiver]

100k CC time is very easy to get

lol no, 200 tentacle is where u start getting 200k+

[zealous niche]

Oh.. then the rest of my stats were bad

I was only getting 30-40k then with 200 tent over 100k

[bold quiver]

thats usualy the case haha, cuz u need good crystal chance, one shot everything, omv speed, decent bubble

[dapper prism]

Think most ppl are at like 40k or less wtih sub 200 tente.

[bold quiver]

when ig ot 200 tentacle i jumped to 200k+

[dapper prism]

Thing is most people get 200 tente before getting good crystal rate and all the buffs to it with good roadkill etc.

[bold quiver]

yeah ppl usualy slack on crystal chance and everything else, so they had bad CC time

[dapper prism]

Same as PO and Roadkill

[bold quiver]

that creates the ilusion that u need 200 tentacle for a good cc

[dapper prism]

I've probably seen like 5 people in the past 1-2 weeks post their alchemy here and have a 30-50ish roadkill

[bold quiver]

@zealous niche but u are not wrong i guess, getting 200 tentacle would be the easiest way to reaching 100k kkkkkkkk since sailing is just afk claim

[dapper prism]

or at least a sub 100

[vapid warren]

@dapper prism im sorry but why no chem warfare?

In the skill bar... i feel like thats a key skill?

[dapper prism]

Because fart places it.

That's the whole purpose of fart, it spreads it on every platform

[vapid warren]

But why not add chem warfare to the mix?

[bold quiver]

oh Floms and soda cans chemical warfare is good

on citrines /tremor wurms its bad

[stoic crow]

It's redundant and possibly laggy

[dapper prism]

For starters, it is on my bar.. (and on the image on the link i sent you)
But 2ndly, your bar won't even get that far back

[vapid warren]

Sorry its not that I dont trust, I just dont see why NOT ya know?

[astral charm]

how long does the particle accelerator take to convert?

[dapper prism]

It's on the text, its on the bar, it's on the vid. It's literally on everything i sent you unless im missing something somewhere 🤔
The only statement i recall is that later you wont need it. (on the bar*)

[dapper prism]

Every hour, see time on toolbox. (its not on the hour)

also best to set it to 1050m and turn it off. It will still autoconvert above that stack

[vapid warren]

I'm just trying to make sense of the lack of it, was curious if it was weaker or only a certain # of clouds can be on screen. That was all.

I always thought of it as the best skill on bubo so thats why.

[astral charm]

ive got it set to 15m to try and get myt first particle but it wont activate even tho ive got 15m oak logs

[bold quiver]

are u wondering why not using chemical warfare (on bar) on citrines or tremor wurms map?

[vapid warren]

On any of them

[rough wasp]

Some maps you use it

[bold quiver]

i believe the recomendation IS to use chemical warfare on FLOMS and SODA CANS tho

[vapid warren]

In my head, logically, its a skill that doesnt take cast time, and is just free damage

[dapper prism]

Check the time on toolbox, as said, it's not on the hour, and havig it set to 15m means eveyr 10m stacks above that gets converted.

[sick sentinel]

multiplatform maps yeah gas cans are good

[bold quiver]

u havent been paying attention cuz it takes time to cast skill

[sick sentinel]

its just not necessary on the good ones

so you dont need to waste a rotation of spells on it

[astral charm]

ty

[bold quiver]

game is not that optimized that all skills are cast simultaniously

[dapper prism]

I'm still mainly confused as your statement here #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Sounds like i said to specifically not use it?

[tropic kiln]

The ghosts spread poison good enough

[vapid warren]

Yes, Trickz I appreciate the help and im going to take it off the skill bar, but I'm still just trying to understand logically, why its something you take off. Like if theres something I'm missing in the game mechanics

I generally like understanding why, when told something that goes against my general belief

[bold quiver]

i believe vys has me muted cuz i've answered him but cant get through apparently

[dapper prism]

Think you're missing my point still. I dont specifically tell you to take it off.

[bold quiver]

save him trickz

[dapper prism]

You can toss an emoji on their message, if it auto-removes it they have you blocked, but a blocked person can still see your msg if they unfold it afaik

[vapid warren]

I have listened, you take .3s to cast it, but once its on you, I thought your character continues doing their thing?

[bold quiver]

i see didnt know that

[tropic kiln]

Its good on floms and soda cans because the map too many platforms so ghosts cant spread poison but on citringes and wurms the maps are flat enough for ghosts to spread the poison

[rough wasp]

It keeps casting even tho its a buff when it doesn't run out so those .3s keeps adding up

[tropic kiln]

No need the extra lag

[bold quiver]

Time it takes to cast 1 skill u lose time to cast another raise dead, hence u lose CC time for no benefit (on flat maps)

[tropic kiln]

And yeah you lose raise dead sometimes

[rough wasp]

then since its on the chem warfare tab, it eats up the skill order prio

[vapid warren]

@dapper prism I know you said you had yours on, when i saw that the guide's instructions didn't include it, it struck odd to me, thats all

[dapper prism]

True, but on a flat map or late map like citringe or wurms your will have the whole map covered permanently from fart.
Fart isnt really as important either compared to Aura, Aura ticks faster and kills stuff faster. Delays on insta respawns and chances on aura = not good

It's basically just not needed if something already fully covers it (at late game areas)

[vapid warren]

Is that .3s trickered every time you cast the buff, or everytime you throw out a potion

[tropic kiln]

Cast

[dapper prism]

but as circ or brave or whomever said, on earlier areas like cans, floms you could use it

[rough wasp]

Everytime u cast the buff pretty much, but its just cause it stays on it and eats up casttime for aura/raisedead

[vapid warren]

Okay, so its just that slight perhaps optimization

[tropic kiln]

Its basically like every 3 raise dead you lose one raise dead

[bold quiver]

not slight, its a big dif

[rough wasp]

which eats up CC time, but some maps are poop so u use chem warfare

i wonder if eventually fart cloud is enough vs chem warfare tho

for those maps

[bold quiver]

my CC time is 440k. If i just change the order of my aura and raise dead it goes down to 390-400k

thats how important skill bar is for CC

[tropic kiln]

Yeah and try adding chem

[pastel bramble]

wheres the nugget max on the toolbox?

[tropic kiln]

It will be like 350k

[dapper prism]

The issue is your whole arguement is still misleading and invalid.

Both my info and the guide are based on citringe/OJ or wurms.

[rough wasp]

yea mine had chem and i dropped from ~420k to 370k

[dapper prism]

Aura is what kills the mobs 99% of the time, not necessarily gas

Especially on a flat map like OJ

[sick sentinel]

w5 kill gaming

[rough wasp]

i forgot i had it on for doing killroy 💀

[bold quiver]

pain

[dapper prism]

where you'd expect it to be, in gaming 😄

[bold quiver]

@sick sentinel did u get a 2000 kills killroy already?

[sick sentinel]

yeah when the frogs map came out

[bold quiver]

oh huge

did u had to increase the monster respawn thing a lot? also what is yout timer!

[sick sentinel]

i've done most killroys since its been out

70 timer

like 2 respawn

maybe mid 70s

[bold quiver]

my mistake was not doing horn, so my timer was only 50

[dapper prism]

respawn sucks btw

[rough wasp]

i have to level my time

[bold quiver]

yeah i got respawn to 10 before thinking it was actualy not that great to keep upgrading, so i swapped back to timer

[rough wasp]

I put like 1-2 pts in respawn

[dapper prism]

Same, 10 and back to time 😦

[rough wasp]

and noticed like no diff but killroy respawns fast

[bold quiver]

i noticed a difference pumping it to 10, but nothing insane

[rough wasp]

i have like 35 in time 💀

[sick sentinel]

my first run with pearl drops was pretty good, got like 4 holy. ever since i've only gotten 1 pearl tho

and its not every time

[dapper prism]

how much pts did you get at slimes? and do u just keep bubo on auto?

[bold quiver]

that sucks

[dapper prism]

Pearl drops are same as talent drops, it diminishes with each drop and ud have to increase the talent to get more

[sick sentinel]

when was slimes? i control my chars for every one

[paper sail]

Mechanical clarity when

[dapper prism]

Today, this week

slime mage and sand castle warri

[dull ember]

Bro this is sus or I have dirty mind

[pastel bramble]

i cant see it, dashboard tab? account tab?

[sick sentinel]

i dunno if i did those yet or if ur ahead of me

[dapper prism]

toolbox, account, w5, gaming , shovel
https://i.imgur.com/n9XSWs0.png

[pastel bramble]

oh nice thanksi found it

[sick sentinel]

i'll check in a sec, dont think min refreshed yet

[pastel bramble]

60m max, gimme some god damn rng please 😄

[bold quiver]

what is your current nugget

[pastel bramble]

7m

[dapper prism]

1m 😦

[bold quiver]

what about yout bit range? im at 10 T red

[rough wasp]

me and u buddy

[bold quiver]

thats not a lot =/, contract is at what? Q range already?

[pastel bramble]

where do i see this?

[bold quiver]

gaming screen

[pastel bramble]

ah ingame

[bold quiver]

i can reach 10T red

but 100T would be a struggle, so i consider 10T range haha

[pastel bramble]

im getting like 2-3t per day

[bold quiver]

same as me then

we are twins!

[pastel bramble]

whats ur snail mine is only 20 atm

[bold quiver]

25

[pastel bramble]

ah

yh once i get snail ill takeover, aint no one beating my squirrel power 😄

[bold quiver]

hit back to back, 23 to 24 and 25, pretty neat after reseting from 23 like 6 times

[pastel bramble]

oh u just did straight up gambling for25?

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkk what is your squirel power

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/WUxO5yp.png

😄

[pastel bramble]

big ol nuts

[dapper prism]

thats a lot of nuts.. wow

[bold quiver]

to 23 i always encouraged a little, but had reset 6 times attempting 24. then last time i said F it and just gambled

[sour oasis]

Big nugger soon 🙏 Last time i went from 88k to 330k

[bold quiver]

holy shit your nuts is insane

[sick sentinel]

yeah ur ahead of me, if u wanted i can let you know what i get

[pine yacht]

chem doesnt affect snail right ?

[rough wasp]

nop

[pastel bramble]

ele god since release pretty much except 1month maybe soo i dont think many will have more nuts atleast haha

[dapper prism]

Yeh that was last weeks. and sure, although not much i can do besides sand castle on dk first, upgrade time, then slime, then horn and repeat xD

[bold quiver]

oh sweet, im like 4 months behind W5 release, started end february

so i got to w5 around end of march

[sick sentinel]

bruh i am confirming chem DOESNT affect snail

yall the liars

[pine yacht]

holly fuck that mail

[bold quiver]

double negative

[green eagle]

Tbh he asked if it doesn’t affect snail lol

[pastel bramble]

my shell is pretty beefy too

[bold quiver]

oh wow 30

[dapper prism]

oh lol, who uses negative questions 😦

[bold quiver]

u put some hardwork on gaming damn

[dapper prism]

Starting my journey as a idleon mailman 😄

[bold quiver]

i just got back to it after equinox release, i had stopped doing it for lie 3 months

[dapper prism]

Dont use negativge questions, Chems does not affect snail as its based on daily reset, chem only affects log timer.

[pastel bramble]

gaming was my personal goal to get high as possible lol this damn snail slows me down though

[bold quiver]

kkkkkk fair it sucks

everytime u get a reset its such a setback

[pastel bramble]

and more days i waste on sub 25 snail the more people catch up 😭

[pine yacht]

so it does not not not affect the snail, right or not ?

[bold quiver]

u are just building up to your big snail

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-funny-knot-cute-gif-9562994

[sick sentinel]

dis mf

[pastel bramble]

hopefuly he does a troll achievement for 1m acorns and my hard work will pay off 😂

[worldly hollow]

its always nice seeing personal goals hit. just a few weeks ago my cooking was shit, didnt have all the spices/meals unlocked and now its grown quite a bit. first page all 40+

[dull ember]

This is sus or I have dirty mind

[pastel bramble]

its tasting the donuts what u talking bout

[bold quiver]

have u finished all achievs to boost bits? i need to do mine

[paper sail]

Nobody thought it was funny the first time

[dull ember]

Oopoooos

[bold quiver]

im missing quite a few easy ones

[pastel bramble]

nope those minigame ones can suck a big ol d

[gaunt shale]

you cant just collect mail, you need to feed the snail or else it will starve

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk im missing fishing/chopping minigame

fishing i can get easily if i put my mind to it, but choping its impossible to me

[dapper prism]

I randomly got the chopping one the other week

havnt touched minigames in months, thought "let me try this" and voila xD

[bold quiver]

god

[pastel bramble]

the miss 99 throws one is hard

[worldly hollow]

i havent touched a minigame since like week 3 of playing lmao

[bold quiver]

yep

[dapper prism]

was think 2nd try xD

[worldly hollow]

other than goldric when i had journeyman for chungus

[pastel bramble]

also this one can f off

[dapper prism]

only other time i touched it was for random quest

[dapper prism]

That's pretty much "impossible"

[bold quiver]

not impossible, u just lack motivation

[worldly hollow]

i do have lv3 on my little shroomies lmao

getting there

[fallen torrent]

79/100 blitz troll kill!

[dapper prism]

well, impossible unless you don't want to progress your shiny for like half a year type of thing xD

[bold quiver]

has anyone calculated how long would that take?

with max upgrades ofc

[worldly hollow]

at least 3

[dapper prism]

Finish my kattles while you're at it? xD
https://i.imgur.com/1tR9DBg.png

[pastel bramble]

i still need all tier 7 plants and a couple tier 6 and i think thats my bit gain maxed out almost except cooking

[fallen torrent]

oh im on a boss roll right now haha

i got T6 chem plants yesterday!

[dapper prism]

but t6 is pretty easy to get..

Get those at least

[pastel bramble]

ive only ever done it naturally

[bold quiver]

are t7 possible?

[pastel bramble]

spending time focusing on it, is a waste 😄

[dapper prism]

just 100x rarer than a t6

[fallen torrent]

possible but rare

[gaunt shale]

in theory

[pastel bramble]

my growth speed with stone is insane lol so yes with enough patience

[worldly hollow]

ive got 1 t6! lmao

[fallen torrent]

T6 easy to get??

[dapper prism]

whats your superbit achievement at?
https://i.imgur.com/w1QYAkB.png

[bright current]

I have Moltiple of them now...

[bold quiver]

oh u got 1 extra than me

[dapper prism]

Not kidding, its literally 100x rarer xD

[dapper prism]

That's probably the woodcutting one

[fallen torrent]

ive been 1 month running for chem plants/berri/shroom

[bold quiver]

nah, i dont have the zoom speed cutting also

i dont remember how to get it

[fallen torrent]

210 for me trickz

[bold quiver]

oh so cute, we are all achievement slackers

[fallen torrent]

x496

[dapper prism]

Open minigame, click once. keep game/minigame open for like 30mins? (maybe 20 forgot) then rng to hit the proper area 2 times. (first time will be slow, then speed updates, 2nd needs to be hit while super speed)

[bold quiver]

got it

[hollow osprey]

what are t6 and t7 plants?

[dapper prism]

the plants after t4 and t5 👀

[pastel bramble]

tiers u can unlock in superbits

[fallen torrent]

Tier 6 and tier 7

[dapper prism]

@bold quiver https://imgur.com/Nwpg9tQ

[hollow osprey]

superbits? D:

[pine yacht]

I still havent seen a single t6

[pastel bramble]

with stone on, i can hit t7 pretty quick i think 😄

[dapper prism]

Gaming lvl 40 unlock

[bold quiver]

ez

[hollow osprey]

oh well ty

[sacred verge]

iirc you get to superspeed faster if u click a few times before you leave it running, might be wrong

[fallen torrent]

mine is 2.2 thats quite a difference haha

[pastel bramble]

squirrel powa 😄

[fallen torrent]

and 35 more lvl than mine tho

[solemn spire]

nugget 1500 -> 3000 lessgooo

[pastel bramble]

i get 404% from squirrel buff lol

[dapper prism]

Actually could be, now im unsure, because it was either bounce based on time based

[obtuse rover]

T7 plants are so far away, even with the infinite chem-looping meta we live in, now.

[fallen torrent]

oh im at 210% of squirrel

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/yOEVBHM.png

[sacred verge]

i think its based on the times leaf hits a wall

[fallen torrent]

but 5.36x for the bits gain

[dapper prism]

Even at this and saving t6's its still not shown any t7 for me

[pastel bramble]

its 5kx rarer than t6 if i read the info tabs right

so ya its pretty long wait 😄

[lyric sequoia]

Fuck T7, I've been looking at this fucking leaf for weeks now waiting for the fucker to go T6 so I've finally got all the T6s unlocked. Had 4 chems rolll T6 in the meantime...

[dapper prism]

Even worse tbh, because that's considering you're sitting on 10x t6's and not 10x t4's.

And 10x t4's happens so quickly with any chem/log skip non stop

[pastel bramble]

just ignore them until u get them naturally is my advice, or u only nerf urself 😄

u could prob get more gains by leveling bit value/shell than waiting for t7 buff

[bold quiver]

i cant even get a T6 ever since i finished my T6 kkkkkk

[obtuse rover]

Yeah chems are the most reliable high-tier plants because they're the only ones we actually save on our boards for a long time, lol.

T7 is still an absolute mess.

I think I remember people imagining that there's supposed to be like a paint bucket import for gaming in the future that will allow us to super-juice the evo-chance for a plant to help with log completion. I wonder if we'll ever get something like that.

[pastel bramble]

t6 pretty common for me

[bold quiver]

prob cuz i dont use kitsune

[pastel bramble]

especially on a 1-3 day dead log game

i dont use the rock either i just check hourly

[bold quiver]

oh wow

guesss my speed is just lacking then

[dapper prism]

My bet is new gaming unlock is color based plants. with different multipliers and stuff

[bold quiver]

[pastel bramble]

i wonder ifwe get to purchase this box before he releases it 😄

[dapper prism]

With the different colors you would be more inclined to "raise" some plants to a higher tier too

[lyric sequoia]

Bold of you to assume that gaming will get another update anytime soon and not just be left to rot like all the other things in prior worlds that have "locked" content

[sour oasis]

I found 2 T6 plants and my gaming is level 160, 34,100 total plants evolved 🤷 it sbasically luck only

[dapper prism]

Come on, we all know we should be getting these any day now.. right?... Right!? 😦
https://i.imgur.com/3mlCjSA.png

[bold quiver]

its totaly possible now right? cuz if u get a 40-50M nugget, gg

[lyric sequoia]

Onlly 895 recipes to unlock, ezpz

[pastel bramble]

my nugs since update have only been small increases sadly, 250k>1mish>2.4m>2.6m>3.9m>7m

so im guessing my next will be 9mish

[bold quiver]

i see

[lyric sequoia]

Are you actually sat with T5 plants waiting for them to evolve though, or are you mass harvesting constantlly? You're basically guaranteed to not unlock T6 plants if you don't sit on T5s

[dapper prism]

7.1m take it or leave it xD

[obtuse rover]

Those are pretty average increases

[sour oasis]

@lyric sequoia i have not sat on any plants besides chemicals

[pastel bramble]

if its not 9 digits its small 😂

[dapper prism]

There's a whole strategy to get t6's very easily...

[lyric sequoia]

Ya, so you naturally have basically none of the T6 plants

[obtuse rover]

The median nug increase with equinox bonus is ~50% each time
The average nug increase with equinox bonus is ~120-170% each time.

[sour oasis]

I was more saying i have two t6 plants without trying

[pearl pebble]

are there any prayers worth upgrading? im assuming Skilled Dimwit is one

[sour oasis]

I was not saying some thing like im so mad that i dont have more t6 plants

[pastel bramble]

my current max is 60m lol so ill take a 14m happily 😂

[sour oasis]

I know what i would need to do if i wanted more of them

[lyric sequoia]

You all getting good nug gains too, meanwhile I'm stuck on my 86k nug that I rolled months ago with maxed out equinox shovel

Then again, I assume you're alll chem llooping for it which I am not. Need them chems for equinox challenges

[bold quiver]

need to click more

[pastel bramble]

yikes lol how many rolls since upgrade does ur toolbox have?

[obtuse rover]

You still need to dig many nugs before seeing an improvement, yeah.

[dapper prism]

Pretty much all except dont overlevel Royal sampler since getting 90% sample is very easy with low prayer and the +kpk or mk with -dmg

[pastel bramble]

1.7k nugs deep waiting on mine

[primal bison]

Crystal or fractal island?

[dapper prism]

oh it shows # of nuggets now 😮

[primal bison]

Only two I have to unlock

[zealous niche]

A week later I’m still chem looping the 15 chems from that dream..

[obtuse rover]

If anyone is interested, I can tell them how many digs on average will be required before they improve on their current nugget if they give me their shovel bonus% and current nug size.

[lyric sequoia]

Yeah you definitely click far more nugs than I do

I'm on 200 with no improvement from 84k

[dapper prism]

350% with 1031k nugget 😄

[bold quiver]

u will get it soon

[lyric sequoia]

Just gotta get lucky and hit max roll at some point I guess, ezpz

[bold quiver]

i only click nuggets when i get gaming procs

[lyric sequoia]

84k to 6m nug, probably not that huge an increase, probably

[obtuse rover]

Just a sec, excel is slow to open this monster of a file.

[pastel bramble]

i think i do like 500-600 rolls daily currently so mine "should" increase quite fast

[bold quiver]

and i claim every 8-12h

thats a lot of clicks

[lyric sequoia]

307.3%, 84k

[obtuse rover]

Once you get to like 50-60m nug size, some people will start needing like ~30,000 digs per increase

[pastel bramble]

yh my current minimum is around 19k i think

for a gurantee

nah its way higher actually

my min at 1.7k digs is 38.4k lol so way wya higher than 19k for gurantee

[obtuse rover]

~940 digs on average before an improvement

You median nug will be ~1.5m, average nug is ~2.5m

[pastel bramble]

whats ur base leaf value

[zealous niche]

At least one more click

[fallen torrent]

i have 15k minimum nugg, i can hit almost 26mil nowe

[dapper prism]

Oh tyvm, guess im close, 39 to go and ill get that 2.5m!
https://i.imgur.com/5MXvPQj.png

I'll file a complaint at your supervisor if I don't get a 2.5m or higher. Since there was no disclaimer for anything less.

[obtuse rover]

~200 pulls to get an improvement on average.

[lyric sequoia]

199 current, so if I don't get 6m nug tomorrow I'm gonna need to speak with your manager

[fallen torrent]

804 number of nuggs since last upgrade

[bold quiver]

429 lvl

[obtuse rover]

LOL

Keep in mind that the average is pulled up heavily by the fact that some luckers get like a 50x increase. That's why I report the median.

50% of people will get a 50% increase in nug size or less, 50% will get 50% or more.

[pastel bramble]

no i mean the value u get from 1 leaf, mine is 5.84m red bits

[bold quiver]

oh

[fallen torrent]

damn michael me its 7.8k xD

T1

[bold quiver]

14,7M with kitsune on

[dapper prism]

It's fine, i've been unlucky with nearly every nugget so far, so maybe ill average it out with that 50x xD
Before Equinox: 10k, 13k, 15k, 17k, 18k, 19k, 31k
After Equinox: 32k, 75k, 183k, 216k, 658k, 1031k

[pastel bramble]

wtf kinda multiplier u got

[fallen torrent]

i got 1.58m after 355k nugget. gitgud trickz xD

[pastel bramble]

god damn snail holding me back

[bold quiver]

its the snail

[keen rapids]

Anyone else noticed the new material in ores section marble bar?

[bold quiver]

8,26E25x

[fallen torrent]

i need the atom upgrade, i can get easily 100k per day now (unless my sample go brrr is good i can get 200k now

[untold saffron]

you can already make them with equinox ore

[fallen torrent]

yes i goty some of those marbles bar

[keen rapids]

😮

Man im just dumb it seems lol

[pastel bramble]

yh ur 4x me.. so with a 25 snail id be 2x u

[keen rapids]

What's the point of it?

[obtuse rover]

Most of your post-equinox nugs are actually better-than-50% of people. You're not doing too bad.

[fallen torrent]

later on it will be used?

[dapper prism]

To stack up for when they get a point

[dapper prism]

Idk that 31k to 32k and the 183k to 216k seemed pretty bad xD

[bold quiver]

yea

[dapper prism]

Meanwhile others were going 100k to "oh look, a penny, picks up 5mil nugget"

[pastel bramble]

guess ill just stop feeding snail and rng it to 25 😭

[obtuse rover]

Can't win 'em all

The RNG of W5 is a massive headache, though

[bold quiver]

yeah feeding hardly helps to be honest

[dapper prism]

I just hope w6 is less rng and more grind oriented

[obtuse rover]

Encouraging snail is pretty important at later levels.

[old crane]

Gone from 12k to 13k to 14k since equinox lol

[fallen torrent]

skillz issue

xD

Rule 4 cephy

thats not allowed to talk about that.

[lyric sequoia]

👀

[bold quiver]

safe!

[dapper prism]

and not allowed to do that

[fallen torrent]

and not allowed to do it cause its a ban

[pastel bramble]

does that work for snail xD

[lyric sequoia]

Didn't actually know that was considered that

[bold quiver]

what work?

[lyric sequoia]

Thought it was like the old sailing strat

[fallen torrent]

if you think its not normal, then it is considred that.

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-klee-wiggle-gif-18708544

[obtuse rover]

Just put in the work and grind up your nug values with equinox bonus.
I do genuinely like that we can sort of eventually guarantee an improvement in gaming now.

[fallen torrent]

braver nothing. just dont

[bold quiver]

i was watchin onimusha so i missed

[old crane]

Probably for the best lol

[fallen torrent]

its punishable things so dont bother

[bold quiver]

got it

[pastel bramble]

tempted to use my gold watches on snail mail now lol

got a decent chance for 3 daily mails 😄

[bold quiver]

oh man gold watches for snail is madnes

[dapper prism]

World 6 looking at you like.... 👁️ 👄 👁️

[pastel bramble]

but thats only if he enables it for w6

and w6 has dailies

[dapper prism]

then again.. W6 "Your watch is to moist from the jungle and doesnt work"

[fallen torrent]

i dont think he will disable it

[bold quiver]

oh man, no one considered that.......

[fallen torrent]

since goldwatch is much rarer than candies

[bold quiver]

he should technicaly, cuz gold watch is the candy for big zones

[pastel bramble]

ur also assuming w6 has dailies 😄

in the w5 task he said "you have enough daily tasks" so im guessing he wont add dailies

[obtuse rover]

Even if W6 things are unaffected by watches, they'll still be useful for boosting like alchemy and vials from the new world immediately.

[bold quiver]

true

[pastel bramble]

yh thats a good point for alchemy 😄

[fallen torrent]

you are talking about lava.

never trust this man xD

[bold quiver]

oh man, watching onimusha i always remember why i dont like shounen type animes/movies

so unbelievable

[fallen torrent]

Eh

Idleon Gen chat for that m8

[bold quiver]

guy fightins 50 guys, gets smashed hardcore but still acts like nothing happens and keeps going against even harder enemies. CAnt forget about bringing random weak people that are 100% delusional to their fights

[pastel bramble]

anyone worked out how long to max out the dream upgrades yet? takes me around 15hrs per upgrade atm

[dapper prism]

Theres a sheet

[bold quiver]

i bet over 30 days

[dapper prism]

Equinox Ranks and Calculator
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x8Ql8z6pbO9PfVbCGV31-I8T0F7kmVTff7W9IS4btRs/edit#gid=1999867709

[bold quiver]

i would guess 2 months

[gaunt shale]

currently watching it with a friend cuz we enjoy watching trash together

[pastel bramble]

11days for last upgrade

[fallen torrent]

I still want to remind that lava took my idea for an item in the game.

[pastel bramble]

347 days total

[fallen torrent]

Blacksmith Whetstones was my idea 😄

[bold quiver]

very original congratulations

[untold saffron]

good thing you can ignore the lab upgrade

[pastel bramble]

now tell him to fix the remaining quest items that dont register on slab

im missing like 10 slab quest items

until char 11/12 😭

[fallen torrent]

mine all did 😮

[lyric sequoia]

Oh hey finally got a nug upgrade

[pastel bramble]

these mofos

[lyric sequoia]

84k to 146k. Not ground breaking, but basicallly double what I had

[keen rapids]

Anyone know how to unlock attacks and what beginner scales off?

[bold quiver]

is that a joke or did u cheat to that

[lyric sequoia]

Finally got the chems for hte challlenge so just burning through them now, idk how people can go days in a loop because I've not had a single new chem yet in 5 T5s

[sacred verge]

i went from 483k to 527k...

[keen rapids]

Im trying to do w5 boss but after i struggle to go past about 50b dmg ;/

[lyric sequoia]

Bro over here self reporting lmao

[keen rapids]

Nightmare keeps healing too much

[bold quiver]

guess another day in a cheaters life

[keen rapids]

No

Serious af

[lyric sequoia]

Quite literally a skill issue, sucks to be you

[obtuse rover]

No weapon is a choice

[bold quiver]

yeah need to get better, keep trying

[solemn bone]

Finally got chemical.

[hollow osprey]

what are the best classes for getting those "kill all mobs without respawning" challenges at rift?

[keen rapids]

https://lorrdnick.idleonefficiency.com

[bold quiver]

ES imo

[keen rapids]

So anyone got any serious suggestions for more dmg or w5 boss strats?

[kind mulch]

ES with homing shot

[dapper prism]

stuff that cleans up the whole map, better to remove mob respawn gear.
But if ES remove wormhole.
Else also DK and Bubo

[kind mulch]

alchemy

[hollow osprey]

have to lvl up my 2nd ES more ig

same for bubo

[keen rapids]

😭

[obtuse rover]

You've got a lot of beginners, my man.

I think there's a pin in this channel about tips for fighting the boss with beginners

[keen rapids]

xD

[hollow osprey]

tyty

[bold quiver]

fishy question!

[kind mulch]

currently work for vman nightmare krunk

💀

[lyric sequoia]

riperonis

[vapid cove]

Was cooking some hot oil chili for my food

gonna be super yummy

[keen rapids]

?

[solemn bone]

18 vials maxed also

quite some doing.

for someone who dosent know how to raise attack

[keen rapids]

I know how to raise attack, just not on beginner when it has no skills.

It's quite a struggle.

[dapper prism]

that whole account is both a mess in some way, but also sus in some ways, but also legit in other ways..

[bold quiver]

how to make a beginner to gain skills, trick question

[keen rapids]

Bro's breaking my heart ❤️

[lyric sequoia]

Uh huh, over there with 2 other vmen but don't know how to make your beginner have skills 🤔

[dapper prism]

Dude doesnt even have auto attack unlocked

[bold quiver]

that is insanely weird

[sacred verge]

did u click the link?

[solemn bone]

Randomly 1,711 levels in one bubble and nothing anywhere close.

[keen rapids]

Because it's oak and oak is easy shrug

So to clarify you can't unlock attacks unless you pick a class I presume since no ones said anything>?

Bruh 😭

[zealous niche]

It’s a memeing progress to get a classless noob to kruk and kill it

[lyric sequoia]

190 crystallin stamp, damn that's some doing

[calm gust]

Does tranqi for Divinity work with time candys

[keen rapids]

It wasn't that bad tbh

[dapper prism]

You cant candy w5

[calm gust]

No I mean the 3xp at all times with time candy

[keen rapids]

Nope.

[calm gust]

Dang

[dapper prism]

It's still w5 content

[calm gust]

Ah

[keen rapids]

Sadly that's not useful since I want to it be class-less and my other beginners will easily do the boss :/

[bold quiver]

just keep attoming quickslap bubble, eventualy u will beat it

[obtuse rover]

Then I'm afraid you'll need to pump numbers much higher to overcome the wall you've put in front of yourself 😔

[calm gust]

And for gaming buff where all prayer buffs are active at 1/5 without curses work with giants?

[keen rapids]

😭

[solemn bone]

6 years.

[keen rapids]

Bro do be spying

xD

[bold quiver]

guy has 30 sporecap stacked there since breeding day 1

[solemn bone]

Does candys boost shiny progress?

[keen rapids]

What happened was i decided the fenceyard was useless

[obtuse rover]

Don't turn that on

It doesn't spawn giants, though

[sacred verge]

lol yeah

[keen rapids]

So when w4 came out i just kept a few shinys in there

[lyric sequoia]

Not out of the realms if he had doot, which he doesn't

[keen rapids]

And funnily enough they developed a use

[bold quiver]

simple time skip,