#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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Remove it if you're boosting rate/cap cause of the higher speed
"one day" as you say
I'm in that boat too
Mine isn't maxed yet so I keep it
if you're not in bubo jail id say don't worry about it too much
I'm playing bubo rn because I want everyone lvl425 for the divine scarf
What's ur GT?
Fair enough
I'm not that far from all 425
I went to 3k GT then figured I'd boost rate and cap so i could do the later GT lvls easier
I'm at ~45/hr rn
With draconic cauldron or not ?
draconic on 1 and 2
With 3 char in the first and 2 in the second
at like 30/he for 3
oh damn
yeah I've got everyone in sigils rn
i should probs move em in cauldrons while I'm doing this damn
forgor
i also have Viaduct off
what's ur equinox % @
yeah I'd say keep on GT til you have 99% then hard focus upgrading cauldrons
you're gonna need to do it at some point anyways
Yeah, I'll do that !
Salt lick is at 80%
But which vials ?
(I have to upgrade the Cooking Roadkill bubble too, lv.382 rn)
I've to go so I won't answer imediately
anyone got a link to the build spreadsheet? - I logged in this morning and all my talents are reset randomly zzzzz
guys whats the water substitute people are talking about in W3? they are just a bunch of trolls in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
Why does my nugget size seem to be getting smaller and smaller rather then bigger with that new equinox lmao
wasnt seeing anything smaller then 5k with 1 point in it, maxxed it and just used 16 max chem plants and now im starting to see 3k's again
You mean new way to get water in addition to buying in liquid shop? Mobs start to drop it
In w3
max DR on silver dice obols is 5% right?
6?
tyty
You got a new nugget
The bonus resets after getting a new nug
I havent got a new nugget lol
I just invested more points into it and now im dipping below the lowest I had seen with only 1 point
Anyone know the ideal map to use cranium cooking on? In terms of number of mobs and good platform placement?
w5 citrus?
Your min nugget should have increased by around 6x. You got a very small nug increase and didn't see it
Don't have quite enough damage to 1 shot those with poison yet. Getting closer
I just went through like 80 nugs right now with the 6%
had tons of lvl 5 or 6 chems and each got me 4-5 nugs
Wurms > Orange > Floms > TV?
Make sure to oneshot with Poison and/or aura
File a bug report 🤷♀️
probably have to, I just want a stupid increase to nug size, been like 6 months with none haha
Try cloudsaving, some bonuses are weird and need that
probably need it, back to lowest being 4k again but im upto 28 chem plants now had a nice chain regrow
almost feels like upgrading the equinox resets it possibly
Is that flying worms, biggole wurms, or tremor wurms?
Tremor
tremor is better? is that with or without adding in chem warfare?
I guess i overdid on crawler, i also have 8 chars with 6 days plus afk 💀
Dropped 2 lucky lads overnight 
Without. Ghost are enough to cover the whole map with gas
Not sure how much Chem hinders you on Wurms
alrite ill try that then, was using it because multi platforms but was seeing 5-10k less seconds
then oranges
You are also primarly farming Wurms for Money, Keys, XP
I've been farming wurms with bubo and I do have chem on the bar but I literally never even saw it going off
true, I think im good on keys, I feel like im missing some mulitiplier though for money
only getting like 6 red coins a day on tremor, not sure what to do to buff that up
gmush
Gmush and Drop Rate Threshhold
ahh, my droprate is still bad
11.xx, 13.xx, 15.xx and so on
Its sadness lol
You have higher class xp than me 
What's the best way to farm mob cards ? (active/AFK and which class)
Thanks
snapshot card drop rate
but you could throw on the vman and he'd have better afk rate I think
drop what
what do they drop
He want this to drop I think
Water. Regular water tho, not dense
That shop is the only source of dense water. Other than maybe some quests or something
Thank you, Floms are perfect
yeah the regular water is what i want
but it hasnt dropped yet
is it rare or smthn?
Yeah it's pretty rare. Best to keep buying it from the liquid shop until you're much later to the game with much higher drop rate.
1:400 * 1:46
If you want to farm some and have choco chip go DK on W3
(sheepie is an example but other mobs and crystal from W3 drop it)
is there an artifact guide? I feel like im making very little progress
is there a sheet to calculated DK<s drop so i can compare how much i lose ahah
Ah I remember when sheepie was a must use card for me. That defence % helped a lot early on haha
What advice do you need? It’s all rng basically
Just get as much drop rate as possible
And upgrade your orb as much as possible too
my bad i meant how much im losing using DK compare to ES
greenstacking W3 at boombox
actually dk should have higher dr than es due to midas
Why do you use DK to greenstack W3 in the first place ?
crystal dropping leaf and decent strrenght potion, at the same time boombox drop hams
so DK is better for 2 / 3 technically
give everyone golden hampter especially warriors, link everyone to Omniphau(or get doot), max sailing po box, and never level this sb talent
If you're greenstacking Audio Cord too DK is better for 2/4
nah base mats are done of course
Oh ok, then yeah you can go with DK, but idk how much you're losing from not playing ES for hams
i feel like im just way behind
royal turban helps with golden hampter, but get 10 royal turbans might be tedious
Do not put any point in this SB talent
There is an ES loot predictor sheet. You could fill that out and compare to what DK is getting. It should he down in #1084911530417606656
If you want artifacts you want as much chest as possible
And check as much as possible
i can try that but i have a .23% chance for my current arti and I dont even have any eldritch
You have unlocked all islands ?
its been like a month or so
hey guys, could anyone party with me to kill 500 mobs?
I can check real quick if you want
and I know its mostly rng but at the rate im going idk how anyone has finished all eldritch
I still need 2 eldritch but sailing when it started was "buggy"
Put those two on first island to get Maoi head and ancient Fauxory tusk
Hi all, im new to this game. May i ask where can i find the mushrooms to complete picnic quest?
Come to carrot server 16 sandpots
Go to #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ But mushrooms are in the first map
On the baby boa map called Winding Willows. Also, you can ask questions like this in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳
Oh my b thought you meant the mushroom npc lol
Thank you!
This one
Yea it’s the one skeleris sent then
Still having a hard time familiarizing the game mechanics hehe sincw im playing on mobile.
Once again thanks 😄
No problem !
therefore recommending to drop by #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ next time btw
Could anyone quickly help me with the afterparty quest?
Which quest is that/what do you have to do
THe Halloween one. I just needa havee someone in my party while I quickly farm 500 mobs
Come to sandpots carrot server 16
tyty
Are you wooden wafer
Ye
Kk in your party
How long does the initial "put everybody to sit doing divinity" lasts?
NP I’m here for another few hours lol
its fine to ask here but if you go over at #party-finder-👪 you may find it easier next time
get them to lvl 40
I’d say til you get goat or if you wanna go long term lvl 40 for tranq
Actually, its harder cause most people are there for party dungeons. NObody there is typically there to help with party quests
Like days, my dudes are around lvl 6 atm
get lvl 40 get goat switch them all to lab
lmao, really? when I needed I asked there and found people so I guess not. good to know. lmao
Ye. I've tried a couple times and had no luck. Usually people in here or general are pretty willing
I can do the quest with you if you need
dooter is helping me!
jokes aside I second what people said. lvl 40 or goat. it is really fucking boring
I actually just finished it!
Aight, I completed it! Thanks man!
Anytime bro
better ask help from guild, higher chance of them responding
or public discord, more ppl but less chance
Funny of you to assume that my guild is active 😎
I guess it is good time to have a little break from the game then lol
cries
what would be the preferred cards to double for active exp? should i do the crystal cards or the active exp cards? i heard active exp cards are HUGE
yeah. idk. I've seen people say "divinity is fine actually" but honestly, that start is really fucking slow. it was so slow that I thought that I was doing something wrong because no way the solution was to have all characters stuck in it for weeks but... nope. that is the answer 
getting 240k s procs of cc in tremor wurms feel pretty fucking great 
I downloaded this earlier in discord
dont know the author though
I feel like I am so behind on everything as I haven't really stopped progressing worlds since I started. It feels a bit frustrating to do nothing except this when I know I could progress on so many other things
divinity and lab are the two worst grinds to start
yeah but the thing is if you don't do that now you'll pay that later and... it really sucks but it is the way the game is 
you could have a character out to do other stuff while at that but that will increase the time your other characters get locked in
9 afk at div, 1 active farmer/pusher
hi, is there any gem shop tier list that is still valid?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15CUTU7E8uFPTMHSFJC040aQvmSGeyIrvNXhiRUxLwfQ/edit?usp=sharing
this has priority tiers on a tab
Input
1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Instructions
Within IdleOn Efficiency, view your Raw Data in the top right corner.
https://www.idleonefficiency.com/raw-data
Search for "GemItemsPurchased"
Copy ONLY the numbers and commas, excl...
if u want can download a copy to put in your own data
ty
why i ain't getting it?
cause it's not a guaranteed
Dont sell your drops when you get them, at least dont sell the normal ones
Its best to have them for the next boat
In blood beserker should i activate his skill before going afk or it didn't matter
collected 13933 power status in 24 hours. keep going?
got choco chip?
yes
and doubler chips on 5* crystals?
1/50 crystal chance, 9.75 DR
is W2 colo broken? I've been mining for a full minute...
only have one doubler, its on demon genie 5*
hp prayers break w2 colo
ah thanks
so midas, jawbreaker, big brain
even normal tho there is 12ish seconds between rounds
looks like it's as good as it's gonna get for now - go get them statues
see you in 20 days
IdleOn is all about when you're gonna do what - you gotta work to make work easier for yourself
anyone have tips progression wise what to do after you beat kattlecruk with your pusher?
Would anyone mind clarifying for me how Amberite works? I'm confused if the ancient version just gives +1 bubble or if it increases the amount of bubbles upgraded increases by +1 every day?
push wurms with everyone, since that's where the exp is at
if we're not talking about every single other game mechanic
!amberite
aww :p
i mean kinda yea, ive given up on trying to get like an IE review, last one was more of just an insult fest without much advice
depends
how do i get them
like ive been trying to work on all the sills ive got people working on divinity/lab. and i finally hit the end of it, i need more jewels in the lab tree. I was working on active bubo but i really need to get fury relic for that to take off, my DK which is pushing right now through fire spirits to kill kattle is lvl 373, my bubo is 318
where you asia based language characters person, i can do S
booky 7 sandpots
find a goal and work towards it then - tent lvl 200+ is a pretty good goal. if you need fury, setup sailing and lvl that
yea currently its taking me like 22 hours to get 300k twoard the cloud for could 8 which is fury
once your bubo is up and running, do alch for a week :p
then ill probably just let everyone go there
till i get that relic
my tent on bubo is like 191 or 192 at the moment
so im close but i need that relic to get over the hump
Is ES the best active card acquirer?
ping me when u r there
yess
its "This game sucks, one star!" right?
getting closer and closer to 3k ladles/day on my BB 
googled it, did that work?
yea im all S's sorry chief
npnp
SoloThis, SoloThat etc
gl chief
is there certian bubbles to focus? I was sitting at flombegies doing poison bubo from level ike 170 to 318 lol. I just put it all into grind time cause i didnt know what would be best?
here's a dude with P but it doesn't work somehow
they have to say "1 star, game sucks!"
comma, exclamation point. all of it
tyty
Keep 90% discounting Hocus Chopus until it's atomable for bigger samples
im trying to unlock atoms currently, but im a deccent bit away from that still and dont know much about it. do you have to progress it to a point to use atoms?
Where's your main source of eff? Just wondering cuz I'm way far behind lmao
stamps and meals are your main source of cooking efficiency. don't forget the efficiency prayer as well
@zinc torrent
and after a certain point serrated rex rings give more cooking efficiency than the chef rings do. i'm hoping he adds in more cooking related gear, maybe an upgraded ring like the lab gets, but i'm not holding my breath
Yea, the material cost needs to be over 100M for you to be able to use atoms to upgrade. Even if you're a ways away from getting the Atom Collider I'd still start working on that ahead of time since it'll just accelerate you when you get there
So i just looked at that bubble, is there a reason we are pushing woodcutting efficency so hard?
Samples for atoms/hourly clicks
i figured you would say something damage based, or like skills or capacities or....idk anything else
Juicy juicy samples
ok so i get samples but as i said i dont know much about atoms. and what do you mean by hourly clicks?
sorry i imagine this is common, i just havent really been let into this info until now
you get samples high enough so that you can click every hour bubbles that have 1000m (1b) mat costs and that saves you from using atoms to level that bubble and you can focus atoms on more costly and harder bubbles to level
you must spend your time in other world chats as we talk about this often lmao
yea for the longest time i didnt know a w5 chat existed and i thought it only went up to w4?
The atom collider will turn excess mats into particles, so like anything printed over 1050M will become particles. The more you print, the more particles you'll get, more particles = more atom collider upgrades and more alchemy upgrades
well for almost a year now w5 has existed 
http://puu.sh/JTG0H/fb41a0755f.png but this is just to show the time that i have until i actually get atom collector lol
you are still a baby, young one
indeed, i think i just got to my third month total
Your cog board is all exp% right?
yea its been pure xp% for about....2-3 weeks now?
dope dope
you need to get construction exp cogs stat so you can level your construction to reach the millions/billion build rate per hour
i just finally got my first character to 70 that wasnt a squire class
so now im finally generating purple cogs
spend some active time on your DK/Squire when you can and he'll be getting leveled up in no time
how many warriors do you have 🫢
3
Just noticed build speed really start to pick up now min 40mil per hour
I'm at a measly 1.7 mil 
my dk is currently actively killing fire spirits, he does have maxed con perks as well. Then i have a squire with maxed con perks in lab, and then my blood berserker is in cooking getting like 70-80 ladles per day
yep it just ramps up faster and faster. you'll get to 100m, 250m, 500m, 1b etc so quickly once you focus on it
Should I active on squire for 80mil per hour or is not how it works?
elaborate for me, how do you active con?
Active squire does get more build speed, I believe the talents are bugged
Just hit 1500 total levels in buildings, 5% speed per 10 lvls from now on
it might behoove you to work on your BB more, get the 1m chows in early worlds to ramp up efficiency and then go back into the kitchen focusing speed and efficiency meals to get ladle counts up. as well as focusing heavily on stamps. alchemy always helps too
yep time to go back to building shrines
also you can snapshot construction obols which gives a nice boost to build speed if you plan on sitting on a map for awhile
yea i probably will im just trying to catch cooking up right now, i have 12 chows, which is funny cause i started on harder stuff first so i have 1m kc on most of w3 mobs so to get a ton of chows when i go back will be much faster. as everything is signifigantly easier
I been working on bb aswell got 100m done for all w 1 2 and 3
Are the "Nothing Sowwy" cogs worth keeping ?
Stopped at 4 at the moment to build up candies
to be fair i also depleted my red salts. will be getting 400k here soon which will shoot my build rate back up hopefully.
only if they have good base exp on them, otherwise it does nothing
new highest exp cog 
Doesn't even boost the Nothing Island grind?
been in the game long before island expeditions, not even the pickle vial affects it
nothing currently does
I've been bamboozled
Poor choice of words 😩
nice one
that makes me feel really bad about my stats lol http://puu.sh/JTG2X/05720ad792.png
construct has close to +10k% exp i believe last i checked with him
Stop neglecting construction and get those exp cogs on the board!
i'm only at +6k%
their all xp cogs q.q
Is your board tiny lol
aww this is so sweet

i love seeing baby boards
i rushed w5, and ive been trying so hard like the last month to fix everything
fair enough
this is technically the best state my baord has ever been
and it'll only get better
board*
you'll be spending a lot longer than that to fix everything. you're always fixing haha
even endgamers have stuff to "fix"
Ty btw!
I mean rushing w5 is probably the smartest thing you could have done. There will always be time to improve the stuff you mostly skipped but I think character levels will help you do those things faster
I spent too much time "tending my garden" while getting to W5. Resampling copper ore from 50 to 200 thinking I was a GOD
it was a big jump for me as doot...but yea its rough and i have so much to fix all at once that i dont really know what to do
im currently trying to get my trapping balanced out with all royal traps, i have noted out what worship skulls i can use and the materials i need to craft. Ive got a bunch of characters in lab trying to get enough divinity points to get purrmep (i have a 100% chance roll costing about 861k worship points waiting) and i have skipped over cloud 7 in sailing to get to cloud 8 so that i can push for fury relic so i can excel with active bubo. My dk is half a mill killcount from kattlecruk. I also have anvil 5 in my sights and ive gotten a good amount of t5 recipies while progressing through. I think i have every weapon except knuckles (obviously)
everything, everywhere, all at once is what you fix lol
God I love fixing
If you don't have it already btw, use IdleonToolbox
@north wren
and IdleonEfficency, it'll make tracking much easier
http://puu.sh/JTG4y/671d089969.png I dont think ive closed them in months
Same 😂
like i wanna post my ie, but i know what you guys are gonna lock your focus in on even if i say i know these little things are a problem
you close tabs? 
if you want an in depth analysis with good feedback you can pm @dapper prism your ie link and if he agrees he gives great tips on what to improve without crushing your soul.
oh i dont mind getting soul crushed
i have none self esteem so its already flat
as long as theres advice in it im game
well ask him first, don't just send it to him haha
but like last time i tried to ask, i was told to put it on reddit, then i tried reddit and got told it would take more time to insult me than i took looking at my own IE. and that was all they said lol
75k/100k ladle! i wonder what imma use the 100k ones on
one person linked a giant reddit post which i had already done like 80% of the stuff on there. and they wouldnt be any more specific
yaknow what, im just gonna do the stupid little things really quick that i know i should do upkeep wise but ive just been too lazy to do it
I regret using my 100k ladles
I coulda got so many meal levels
it is hurtful to use em. but got to!
that's what I thought, but the reward is just more levels in matching scims
10 lvl wich is 100% dmg boost
I still need to upgrade 10 levels of faux jewels
I coulda got like 50k ladles in that time
idk it's just me tho
i mean i can always just farm more ladle later on, my meals are pretty much maxed out right now in term of like... speed compared to what i can achieve
farming hard back on candy to finish apocalypsing every monster for cooking and all
if you fight nightmare kruk (or any mob really) with high damage cards and then swap at the end to DR cards, does that work or not?
everytime i think about this, i cant stop thinking about how i shouldve had 10 different meals on the tables when using my 100k ladles
oh francis thats wise. i didnt think about that one xD
did anyone lol
i mean i tought of it but, i didnt think it was going to be much efficient
for the last tables
maybe like split 5 meals into 2 table each, (last table and recent table each)
it didnt even cross my mind, because we're just so used to cooking all, cooking multiple meals at once wasnt even a thought
but still like 100k hours times whatever bonus you have. Clsoer to 200k hours. That is 20+ years of afk gains per meal xD
when you think about that yeah.. its huge. xD
unlock all artifacts first or focus on getting fury to ancient and then keep unlocking?
prioritizing which ones now is gonna be difficult. Maybe just cooking speed ones and then some other stuff like kitchen cost upgrades for the future?
will ancient fury get you above level 200 talents?
i was thinking skill eff/meal speed/dmg
yes
go for ancient fury then. Getting level 200+ tenteycle is what makes the bubo what it is
if that's your only non ancient artifact, buy the gem shop item for a guaranteed ancient fury

unfortunately, not my only one!
well then i bid u good luck sir
i mean it would probably work, but you better be fast af because during your switch a mole or two might get in and make the fight take longer again lmao
why is my max book of book of wis 777 on skill setup, compared to 760 on battle setup... everything is literally the same when it comes to upgrades to that
Is it worth onyxing w5 statues?
Good morning and lol, 12 lucky lads overnight 
many did lmao
dang what char and what Dr trickz
i bet you it was a DK at beans
Had to move the lads: 9h and 10 mins
12 Lucky Lads overnight
https://i.imgur.com/7uoJs0y.png
https://i.imgur.com/05lTu6O.png
i did loty of alchemy recently
is this ES? Maybe you have arctis as a secondary divinity on one build but not the other?
about 290% speed now
Is death wish ring better than Bejeweled ring ?
dang DK at sandy pots
both are Arctis
trying to greenstack this bs 😦
https://i.imgur.com/s3ouX6t.png
Well i guess i can afk overnight too xD
You forgot to level wis talent when you had vman stat boost
family bonus maybe?
Ayeee I saw you at pots earlier
that is a miserable one. is dk better for it? i have done ~2m on ES and it's draining
I’m wrapping up the w2 statue grind
I have 2 left myself
Just using DK cause 2 in 1, getting statues while im at it 🤷
I just need 1k left for the exp book one and then I’ll be done w w2
Was doing fine on pet battle, 4 pets, taking some damage but healing it through, then randomly gibbed at 114...
i did w1 minus the accuracy; afking all my toons on acorns for death note. Did w2 minus the fishing, skipped w3, did all of w4 and now i'm halfway through w5
you got the fishing one?
Oh nah lol I meant ones from crystal mobs 
lol should i have all 16 boats going to fury relic island? cause thats what i just did haha
I would say fishing one is easiest in W2 😉
yes
also isnt the item dropped mainly from crystals, so always DK ftw
I just candied it lol. Was a lot of candies....
Not if one boats takes super long
Think I got like 60 fishingman statues per hour xD
True that, is there a preferred spot? Does seasalt island work for it?
All your fastest boats to fury, but if anything is way way too long, try and clean up lower islands
Oooof that’s a lot of candies
luckily for me, the weekly reset came with a 72hr candy from a giant mob
it drops a lot on crystals, yes, but it drops from all W2 mobs as well
I think fruitflies are the best
i got 2 72hr candy from colloseum yesterday
Yeh, then dk ftw for crystal, too early for me to think much xD
Hey guys, I unlocked Doot today and I was wondering, are all divinities linked up or just the ones you have unlocked ?
Oh yea it drops from catching
4 72hr, 11 24hr, im packed for a bit
for me that amount of hours was like 4k/20k :S
World 5 Doot companion owners:
https://imgur.com/kXkZfj9
All as long as you’re div lvl 2 on each char
then 42 12hr, 130 4hr 😄
W5 is the ideal time to backtrack and do stuff like this to name a few:
https://imgur.com/c1RhPXA
Doot 😦
reminds me to get my weekly sheepie
one day doot.
what lvl do you guys usually lvl it up to when going for the next pet?
gee i can't wait to onyx w6 candies 🤓 . Day 1 grind
Thanks guys ❤️
@north wren take notes on what @dapper prism is posting
crap, im trying to handle some stuff that i was lacking on
Welcome my brethren. May Doot continue to shine his light upon thee
i just pulled all my characters to MSA so i could finally use my soul charges
http://puu.sh/JTGaz/ed27c9c651.png "efficency"
are you talking about the lvl from DNA? cuz aside from the end pets on rows, i hardly touched upgrade from DNA
why not just do it 1 by 1
If you superchowed you should have a lot of dna throughout to get it decently high, but 16% is already more than enough
any good talent build for my bubo? (fighting afk/active cranium)
I never go much over 30
going to be gone fro 1 week, what should i active during that time? Im pretty early end game so my inventory fills up on kills after about 8 hours on worms
Yeah anything around 1 % for the new pet was where I'd aim
funny enough most of that i have done
Well, you would just filter items 
bubo with equinox
still worth if i dont get the items?
i do have to improve gear and get mob drops to finish upgrading anvils tho. but i think i have most of that alteast
with everything filtered
Lots of keys, statues, xp, money.
then see if he will look at your IE and do his thorough analysis
yea thats why im trying to prep my IE right now fixing some basic maintenence stuff i hadnt done
My alch xp stuff is slacking but is it that important when W6 comes out and there will be another soft cap on how far you can go (which will be higher than the pros who have pushed a lot in w5)?
library books, weekly bosses, emptying my MSA
Should lvl that GT
collecting chizour keys as i had to teleport that
I dont have superchow yet 😢
yeah, I just wanted to advance on breeding asap
First "big" nugget since my 1m
https://i.imgur.com/VbUeZmZ.png
But i hope my increase will be a lot better!
breeding XP until you get the lv 60 unlock (or 65? the cloud one).
push all vials (ES donut vial if you need to) and breeding chance food to lv 40. check breeding chance stamps and once you have all of that you’ll unlock it all in no time.
^ + Meals, many good meals
how many luckier lads should i aim for? do i treat it like an eventuality and just make them as i get them?
Make em as you get them
just have a designated alt, like 2nd dk/es/sb that you move your lads to
6️⃣ emotes when 
it's best to get all food to lvl 11 first right? forgot where I read that
yep for diamond chef bubble
there we go
hey @dapper prism i have been told you are a good person to talk to about optimization and better progress (ie reviewing basically). Would i be able to get some of your time for some advice?
alc stamps cooking 
21M max nugget, 14k minimum, cant wait to get a big one. ineed 1.5mil more
Maybe soon, you can post it already.
Just please clean it up before posting it. Go through each of your tabs, and do the obv.
how do we increase the odds for a larger max? other than lvling up the spade?
yea thats actualyl what i was trying to do or atleast fix what i thought was obvious...
i mean the equinox upgrade is what makes it possible, and level up the shovel itself
equinox bonus
getting back to the 6 figure rolls, i'm just hoping that my next nugget is multi mill
who are you 🪪
random guy who finally made a discord account and will probably regret it in a week's time

Welp, here it is. Tried my best to clean up what i could think of. Hopefully its not the worse but it definately isnt the best. https://solo830.idleonefficiency.com/
:O
The first IE that actually cleaned the Dashboard
except nullo salts....i dont have the stuff to really constantly produce them, but i also dont have the upkeep yet to rank them up so their just kind of idle...i know its bad..but i dont know what to do in that situation.
You just want a quick review?
I can take 3-5 minutes and do the absolute basics
Things like this are silly.
Go pump your alch.
I mean I'm lol game for criticism, insulting, mocking....as long as you atleast give me an idea what you think I could do better after
first 4 alchemy bubbles need work also get better skulls and waves
Skulls are freshly crafted in my bank, I need rooted souls and better rooted souls waves
you have the whole game ahead of you
I have up to lvl 40 skulls planned just don't have the mats yet
I haven't revisited rooted in a while and I do need to but I'm currently working or I would of done atleast one clear of that before I uploaded
Elaborate a bit on this...my log samples feel amazing to me comparitively to the rest of my samples
Your bubble requires 4,730 oak logs to level up and you're sitting on 55,800,000 oak logs in storage.
I've been trying to get base 30 on most of my bubbles because I saw in another review that stated
Use your available materials to level your bubbles.
Sorry still semi-afk, breakfast and stuff
But yeh, the obv stuff i saw on first glance was Cheap stamps, very cheap alch bubbles
Terrible 3D prints.
That's fair honestly. I stocked a lot of my materials up recently using prints and haven't gotten to utilize them in a new round of stamps and bubble upgrades
New best cog, nice 😎
I had like 20k logs, and recently over the last week or so I have been shifting prints to get 10m stacks in most ores and logs
I'd love better input on that, I know there's the like bot command for it
youve got chocolatey chip so start crystal farming for statues and obols
But it's a lot to take in when you haven't really processed it
Will do later.
I've already obbied alot of w1 and some of w2's stuff
Currently my dk is trying to get first clear on cattle and when he's not doing that ive been active bubo farming for grind time and levels
Bad samples = level stamps that involve efficiency and bubbles that involve it too. Having good prints just make it easier and easier. You can probably get away with sampling every week and probably doubling your samples too
Should I focus sampling even though I have the ancient sampling artifact?
and get the 300% multi-bubbles higher if you can
Take a day this weekend and just go through a full resample. Print whatever that character's native skilling resource is, i.e., ore on squires, fish on barb, etc.
Your samples are all over the place, some are literally 20 spore caps - like, what are you gaining from that?
I didn't really give a shit about my ancient sampling artifact then since your samples are so easy to get higher every week
only 4 of 10 alts printing main skill resource
You'll probably get more prints doing it over than waiting for it to scale
That's fair honestly...I haven't sampled spores in a bit....basically since pre w5
Identify some important bubbles/stamps and center your samples around those but in general it looks like you have every printer slot unlocked so there'a absolutely zero reason that you shouldn't be printing one of every single skilling resource.
And do I sample base resources on all characters or just one? I was always unsure of that because it seemed like to upkeep refinery I'd need all them on different things
All.
So if one had the resource I would try to not sample it on another character unless I needed
Basically all but like VMan and BM if you want
Buy Anvil Points with Mob Materials -> Might need to invest a little into your ES. Lvl 121 is your highest ES, that can go higher with a little love to your gear
Alchemy: You got a lot of easy bubbles, Bubbles 1,3,6,7 for example. Those will also give you better samples (and some damage) -> Which will improve your Alchemy further
Vials are okay for now. U can probably upgrade a few of them if you active ES farm or Print Skilling Materials
3D Printer: Your Vman can get way higher Mob Material Prints during his Speedrun so he should mostly print mob materials and others skilling materials (if you need a guide on how to sample during speedrun just ask)
Cooking: Alot of Meals that take 1 Ladle each
Do you have Doot? I assume so since no one is alligned to a God
what lvl are your lab lvl guys?
Why sample on one mage and gain 100k/hr when you could sample one three and gain 300k/hr?
My lab levels are scattered as I've been pulling them in and out, and sec I wanna address xayah's
Idk what this means. If you sample every skilling resource, and use your BM / Vman to sample mob resources, making sure to include the mob resources needed for refinery, you're covered with a ton of "extra" slots for whatever you want.
should I focus this? I just unlocked lol
Working on the es recently as well I was active getting card tiers and materials but I shifted back to active dk to get first cattle clear I'll probably try to clear cards and materials at the same time. If I finish the card I'll stay on the mob until I get enough drops to clear the anvil. Do you think that is higher priority than finish cattlekruk for the first time? Alchemy is something I struggle with liquids and maintaining the materials and then prioritizing. I'm very very clueless about vman. I did his initial run was so flustered but I at least sampled sheepies for refinery before I ran out of time. Can you elaborate on cooking? From what I see/understand I'm dead in the water except for the dish I'm currently cooking to get my last available plate to 11? And yea I have doot and I'm almost about to get purrmep
which upgrades should I focus on with breeding?
between the rift and the alchemy bubbles, i haven't had a problem acquiring all the shinies i want
It might be my low sample mentality possibly but would I really want to sample say...logs on all of my mages?
100% without a doubt you want to do that.
Like I said, sample whatever the char specializes in. Ores on squire, fish on barb, logs on mages, bugs on siege breakers, and then mob mats on vman/beast master
Ah I had been trying my best (even though I've failed to) stay with each material only sampled once unless I was desperate for the resource
Eventually you can mix it up a little but for now you'll get the most bang for your buck sticking with that mentality imo.
journey has come to an end! we did it
Ah mobs on beast master? That I wasnt expecting
can finaly go back to afk in the game until w6
Only reason for mobs on BM is because he doesn't have a second talent page that buffs his catching like siege breakers do.
Mkay so I have a lot of sample work to do. Will definitely work on that and I'll ignore the stacking bonus from the sailing artifact
I use my BM to print refinery mats because he's useless at sampling anything but at least he can keep up refinery.
Honestly...that's fair
One day he can sample logs for me 

One day for me too but not for this guy yet lol
He’s sampling shit for my vials rn 
Kattle is not a huge priority. You can't unlock the next world currently
Alchemy is always something you wanna work towards. Therefore early on ES can give you quick levels (to get easy bubbles out of No Bubble left behind (NBLB) range). Liquid you need to fill up with Bubo. I saw you got some points into the Big Cooking Roadkill bubble which is good! -> But Bubo starts getting really good with higher Talent Levels. You can get a lot of Talent Levels through Sailing, but they are on Island 9 so u gotta upgrade and wait some more
Cooking: You can look for "Least Time to Cook next" on IE and see how long meals take. You can go above level 11 on meals
I hope my responses aren't being taken as defensive I'm trying to explain my thoughts process so my bad idealisms can be identified
insane I couldn't take it anymore after 20k
it gets painful right? i was at my limit also
The fury relic struggle is real
but if i didnt finish it now i wouldnt do it anymore kkkkkk
what sigil?
i assume i dont have it either lol
oh yea you don't either
is it a good one?
h good to know
Ah that's a fair point, I should use es for those simple mats for nblb. Yea I've been trying to get tentacleye to 200 so I can do aura and try to shove my bubo to worms. And yea I guess for me cooking so far has been get plate to 11, next dish and repeat so after 11 I've neglected pretty heavilly
Except meal cooking speed meals I've.put a few more ranks into those
lol now i that i thought about it, it would have been better waiting for that first kkkkkkkkkk

And I guess since it was teased w6 is the next big update I'm trying to get one kill so I'm ahead of the game on something for the first.time ever
u have at least 1 month before W6, u got this!
I'm under 500k fire spirits from the map which is why I'm active pushing it right now
Seems like I should be active es farming materials though
But I'm so close though XD
That's great but even if you access w6 it's highly unlikely that you'll be able to accomplish much, if anything, since so much of your account is getting neglected in some sense.
This game is 90%+ alchemy, and your alchemy is weak right now.
Yea but I figure if I can at least get a jump start on any new town skills it would be good right?
I would wait for Trickz review and then decide. DK is pretty decent for clearing the Mobs on the Boss, but maybe you won't even have enough damage without doing some alchemy first
I figure w6 is only gonna be for you 5000+ total account level people
I understand the desire to push, I did the same thing, just trying to explain from the other side after having learned the hard way
how many kills are you getting per hour? how long will that 500k take?
Uh I'll probably have it today or tonight?
yeah that's fine then, you're almost there no reason not to finish
But I would strongly suggest you take a day this weekend to do a full resample to the best of your abilities on every char and backtrack abit to focus on improving your things from previous worlds (Stamps, alch, cooking, etc.)
Even those early meals that take 1 Ladle are gonna boost that specific meal by 9% :P (looking at pancake and some other stuff I forgot)
I go by meal to next level
I don't think any of his meals take 1 ladle unless I misread. But some of them are cheap - like 20-50 ladles.
oh that view hurts my soul to look at now http://puu.sh/JTGl6/2c83987cab.png
7 Meals that take 1 Ladle
Oh that's weird, I hover over them and it shows 12 ladles for spaghetti for instance. Didn't look at the times.
If you haven't yet, max the liquid cauldron equinox thing, and active bubo for a few days with the liquid cap lab node disconnected. My liquid cap/rate went from 50ish to over 200 on every cauldron in like 3 nights from that.
Shit nvm that's for purple. It has been so long since I had two ladle numbers...
It’s a decent boost but meals are very good. And vman needs meal levels to scale (though it takes a bit)
Can't do it as I haven't unlocked that far. I'm trying to do more but yea my account just isn't strong enough for that
To some degree yes. Not sure how effective it actually is
it's pow10 for the turkey buff. spending them now would reduce you from 1500m to 1300m, which is a barely anything drop
trickz still typing 
It seemed really effective honestly, stocking up my turkeys like that I swear have shot my speed through the roof....granted...I also upgraded everything else at the same time so I might not understand the balance
Ikr? I'm terrified and excited honestly
Watch him hit the word count 
So he has to split it into 3 parts
My man's just going to drop a notepad file in here to download lol
As a side note: I just checked your Talents on DK and you want some more Points into Shockwave Slash (Squire Talent) and Orb if possible
It's +15% cooking speed for every power of 10.
so at 10 cooking speed, it's 15%, at 100, it's 30%
at 1500m it's log(1500000000)x15 = 137% cooking speed
sp[ending your turkeys would drop you to about 1200m
log(1200000000)x 15 = 136%
you'd drop 1% cooking speed by levelling your turkey dish rn
He might make up that 1% from vman blood marrow 
yup lol
So atleast from the advice I've gotten so far. Full resample across the board. If their good at it then sample it, which also means I need to do some pushing to get some more materials. I need to be active farming on my ES..then my bubo after. Es to get the anvil and base rank up bubbles by farming the materials for the bubbles. Then do bubo to get the liquids for the bubbles making sure to get a lot of the early bubbles that should.be super easy to knock out. Upgrade skulls (which I have the first tier crafted ) which will take me upgrading waves which i need to do anyway. For cooking see how much time for a level not time for new plate tiers and upgrade accordingly. Do another pass on stamps before sampling to focus on efficiency stamps.
I'm trying to skim over and see if I'm missing other things (I'm going to copy the summary into my planning notepad to follow it better)
I need to learn how to better utilize vman in general so I might take you up on that guide xayahah
We can not access your Construction board, but the most efficient tactic is to put 2 Squires on Board and only go for XP% Cogs. Directionals should also only boost xp
should we have rest of character making cogs?
Just saw I still need a down directional :O
is having two dks bad, like how would their talents interact- just highest one takes priority ?
I do know that and now that I'm finally producing purple cogs I want to do a full rebuild of it
highest take priority - orb progress talent is shared between them so getting kills on one counts for the other
bottom two characters are my dk's
like this?
as you like really as long as they're in there
Check out !chopchart !minechart in #bot-commands before you resample, and also try to level the skilled dimwit prayer as much as you can beforehand and make sure to use that.
so just keep these two here basically
yeah, with exp directionals pointing to them both
yea ive seen those charts..its just alot to take in when your clean slate on it
More Space and better cogs will come over time :)
But good for now. If you get more XP Cogs/Directionals you want to take the top 2 chars away from the board
i do want to cogtimizer soon and see if i can make it better
Yeah for real lol, it literally took me like 5 hours to resample on all my guys the other day lol
im probably gonna buy this gem bundle like the whale i am and probably get the p2w cogs
Try to do a ton of worship for forest souls and level this bad boy before you do your resample. Big gains.
What’re ur total stamp levels @burnt sail?
vman talent go brr
10,201
all my worship has been going into trying to get skulls upgraded lol
can I put them anywhere else except for ultimate cogs?
I’m 9600 
In your Inventory :)
my list on my second monitor of souls i need to get just for some skulls http://puu.sh/JTGp6/fe40cccf93.png
Close to 10,000, keep going king
I believe in you
any benefit in having them in inventory?
i knocked the 12500 dune souls and 250 redux off right before I updated my public profile
Bro I just saw your Red Salt take 75 Days 
Yeah I got like 300 extra stamp levels yesterday
Look how long it's gonna take you to get those 70k rooted souls though, lol. Unless you redo your best wave. But even then, you'll get some massive printer gains if you pump skilled dimwit as much as you can.
Then I ran outta money lol
Nah, just have 2 squires on the board, and the rest are fine where they are. But also why are 2 of your dudes not wearing hats lol?
coudl be invis hat from summer event
yea i definately know that, my rooted wave is weak, i would of pushed it but im legit sitting in my cubicle at work doing this instead of working.
they're gangster
And 80k frosty souls.
lol its cause i do dungeons with them
I forget to put hats back on
frosty has handed my ass to me so many times im so tired of running it
I feel you. Pushing your skulls is important and should def be a focus but personally I think dimwit for your resample this weekend should take priority. Maybe other folks feel differently, idk
that 40 alone took me like 18+ tries
Oh okay haha that makes sense
I usually wind up ignoring my stamps until I suddenly realize I can pump out another 2-400 levels lol. So, I feel that.
I get rid of all of these right? 26% is my lowest xp cog
Not necessarily - do any of the directional cogs give player exp?
Do the directions have XP% value?
Had to stockpile that 90% for my Multitool 
none of them do.
trickz is still typing
Trash then
Amen, I can't level it anymore until I upgrade other sources of carry cap
Yea I’m gonna save for glass shards now
You have stamps over level 400 lol?
Prepare to cry after Trickz is done with you 
i mean i dont mind if he goes in on me lol
Btw - do you use Idleon Toolbox? You can use its "Item Planner" feature to put in what items you want to craft (like I put in a full set of w5 boss armor) and it will tell you what materials you still need. Could probably replace some of that notepad of yours.
i have logged into it, but im very un-knowledgeable about that one?
I mean, I tend to accidentally ignore upgrading my stamps until I can upgrade a bunch of them to gain another 2-400 total levels.
i mostly sit in IE
Definitely check it out, it's super handy and I think better than IE in some regards.
also real quick, you guys were saying earlier your dk might be able to kill kattle but might struggle damage wise
is that good enough stat wise?
Ohhh okay lol. I was like holy shit 
I'm no Alvin
The thing with Kattle is you can technically do it as soon as you can 1 shot moles. With that damage, I'm pretty sure you can, so you'd be fine
But depending on what difficulty you go into, you might be sitting there for a while
DK is super easy for kattle because you literally just throw on auto with your statue on your bar and go eat lunch or something
Same, love IT
wait is IT better than IE
They’re both good. I just prefer IT for the most part
ESP since they updated for Equinox
I think so overall. I still use IE in tandem with IT, but, I def lean on IT more.
Same. I use it for salts cause it has the big ass RANK UP READY 
for IT do you have to log in?
http://puu.sh/JTGrQ/c2db04962c.png not gonna lie...wish it was more like guild wars 2 wiki for crafting like legendaries
For you:
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Stamps, underleveled on a bunch, if something costs 10k or 500k and you have 30-50mil in the storage, you should upgrade it.
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Core stamps to Focus on are Skills: Multitool, Misc: Crystallin, Golden Apple, Mason Jar. Others I like are Alch related like Liquid regen.
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Anvil all over the place, you know you can 2x and 3x produce the same anvil mat with a single alt, no need to have everything different. Your speed seems extremely low, make sure to buy daily whetstone w3 shop, you want that speed way higher
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Alchemy, great to have all bubbles, terrible to have them all this low. All because of your terrible samples. See next bost for Sample stuff.
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Vials, some cheap and beneficial stuff, as simple as the blue logs, chopping efficiency and only costs 50k. PLEASE sample some equinox stuff and lvl some of those new vials. Build rate was great, bar fill rate too
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Talents like 3D go brgggh and refinery are available.
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Samples, see next post.
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Worship, WHY are you not getting better skulls? Everyone is lvl 40-50 (great) but everyone has the lvl 1 skull.
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Death Note, you have stuff very close to the next mk/tier, if something is like 97k/100k (seekers) always get it to the next tier quickly, that way if you ever do stuff in that world, you benefit from the buff
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Shrines are low, +shrine lvl vial could help. If you are dootless, keep shrines in w4 with your cook/lab rats. If you are a dooter, might be worth moving shrines.
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Construction, TD stuff seems very low, be sure you look into proper Con setup (max XP on everything)
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Continue to Always check out your books, 275/1k progress atm
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Cooking, a bunch of lower sub 1h stuff. 1 ladle each would do the job.
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DIVINITY Check pin, maximize pts and push for Purrmep ASAP, double points + xp, + sail/gaming speed.
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Sailing, a bunch of terrible captains 1-2% speed. Check captains daily and try and get better ones
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Sailing Remember, if you only check sailing roughly once a day, use SB Talent 11, If you check it multiple times, DONT use that talent.
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Sailing Boats, Be sure to check your IE and not stop an upgrade before the next breakpoint, you have like 5 things that are 1 point from the breakpoint.
ALTS:
- Vman Talents are terrible, you only need to lvl str/agi/wis briefly and max it out on your alts, then vman can reset. Skilling would want stuff that helps either him or the other alts. Like Marrow/Statues/Worship+souls/ Dmg/ Eclipse for overall buffs etc. See wiki for eclipse unlocks. Highest one is 225 atm.
- Lot of alts with barely even lvl 5 in skills. Get all alts easily to 10-15ish+ for all skills and better tool = better stats, + free talent pts.
- Gear should slowly be full Dementia or Void, even better Chizoar. Emps on everyone, Easily get Chizoar scarf(s) .
- NEVER USE POOP TOOLS AS YOUR MAIN TOOL, unless you are just temporarily using it for stats.
- Dungeon run options are a bit different than the usual setup.
- Talents need to be booked for many things. Get a book for every Alts Tab 1 talent 11 and Tab 2 talent 11 (not archer) for the Effy + Active talent. Helps sampling a lot. Then Tab 2 whatever else gives you Effy.
- 0 gold hampters equipped? Always use these and spread them accross all alts, helps sailing.
- Want a better splicer once BB superchows.
SAMPLES - Basics of how to increase them and get better with them, Better Stamps, Better Alchemy, Better Samples:
Samples, Alchemy, Stamps all go hand in hand. Better Samples = Better Alchemy + Stamps. Better Alchemy + Stamps = Better Samples. Rinse and repeat.
See the W5 Pin to know what skilling bubbles are and easily identify their material cost: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Use this spreadsheet and set it to 70% or 75, 80 step by step, and make sure at least your Purple and Orange skilling bubbles are always increased. main goal will be 90% over time. Can slack on greens but dont over-slack.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HgEWk3_7nT6tVsMeSXEiHcKfOD9_5AWeqRD6_ZkqexU/edit?usp=sharing
- Resample every 2 weeks latest until you've gotten decently far with this, each two weeks of proper progress I'd get around 2x-4x my previous samples.
- Work towards the obvious, better gear, better tools, buff food, Cards, all that stuff. Remember W1 skills cap at 62 speed.
- You can snapshot card chance and candy, for more cards: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
A lot of sample guides out there (missing newest nameplates/divine scarf/Shimmer Expedition): #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
You want to Sample every alts main skill, and mob drops on vman during void run. Kill 1-key bosses for mob respawn, then sample stuff with MK talent buff up.
Jesus christ dude
o fuck that lagged my computer
lmao
Thats a lot of words
I aint readin that
Too bad I cant read 
Haven't played so idk what you mean
bolbi to reference what i said above http://puu.sh/JTGsh/8411076b48.png
Trickz is real life chat gpt
i wish it was easier to remember WHO has done these tasks lmao
sec i need to read all of that
Oh - yeah I totally had the same thought
Me next
How did you know?!
https://i.imgur.com/dFfJhDp.png
LMAO
Oh for sure, at least toss in the bullet points, I like having the 1st word of each one be the topic even if the grammar is a bit "eh" it just makes the organization way easier.
one of our first liners is dyslexic and it just...kills me to see him type
He's great on the phone tho 😄
Idleon players can’t read 
we get too many people asking stuff that is literally written on the game all day long 
I'm a bit ashamed that this point in the game I didn't know you can triple produce....to be fair I don't know how cause doesn't the button gray out once you click produce?
I don't think it does.
the button full on dsiappears
Who needs reading. Just get doot 
the vman str/wis/agi talents can be maxed and then reset and other chars still keep maxed out benefits if they max out the bonuses? that is sweet didn't realize that myself. bout to get some talent points back 
oh hell you're right
did y'all know the "delete all" button on the drone still exists? it is just invisible
good design
Kinda the same as maxing your +star talent stuff, leveling your star talent stuff. then resetting the core talents to gain those poins back if you needed it
if you select delete traps then "claim all" it deletes them all too. Which makes sense but really threw me for the loop first time
Didnt know that ever existed o.o
But i guess it's the same as the anvil, when crafting stuff and closing it, the back button is still there, just invis
that is neat to know 🤔
I greatly appreciate that stuff and it seems like I have generally the right idea across some of it
I currently have a 100% purrmep divinity choice working
I mean as long as you're willing to learn you'll overtake 90% of players 🙂
I kinda am breaking the sailing rule cause I'm desperately pushing for fury relic
is that a real screen? can ChatGPT help my gains? all hail our new AI overlords
Now shooo shooo! And dont you dare let yourself be seen with those level 1 skulls in a week!
the alternative is to play forever and just slowly progress, like me 😄
To be fair you missed that comment
I actually have 10 of the first upgrade skulls in my bank right now
how. are you playing for less time than me that you didn't ever see it? man 
I crafted them right before I took the public profile snapshot
Come back with level 1 skulls so Trickz can be like 
I'm saving up for more upgrades right now
I'll be distributing the skulls to my characters probably when I get home
the delete button on the drone lava "removed" some time ago but I've seen lava coding and just clicked and there it was
thanks for the reminder/tip 
The poop tools I have are purely cause I put event stones on them for defence early, I know they are exactly as their name describes
Sorry weather :/
OMG THAT IS A TIME SAVER. had no idea, i click ALL of them
ayy
but.. wouldnt that delete vman traps too?
Trickz when you say breakpoints for sailing is that the squares on hover?
Yes, its always going to be something like 20-25-30-35 then BOOM 60 kinda thing
i have all vman traps set atm anyways, making a push for 1000 atm lmao
use the secret hidden button
Interesting, didn't really understand the info that was there
Oh siiick
that moment when you can get 10k of the card from goldic quest.. if you use a time candy ( 1h) but at the same time... one wormhole ( 104) make around 6500 of them XD
These are mine 
https://i.imgur.com/Tp1C1Lq.png
Frogs
congrats on your madness
purple frog vial
oof trickz you 20 min trap? Madman
I do 8h and sometimes I wanna don't
ah right
he's doing purp frog vial for sure, that's the only sane way to do that
Why not 1 hour royals? I thought they had the same rate?
trapping, effieciency place with hunter and exp place with maestro yeah?
Frogs are capped per trap, no matter the length
shinies have limited drops per trap
Maybe that's creature count their the same not shiny
more traps = more shinies
Base is 1 shiny per trap
Oh interestinf
Prayer :
https://i.imgur.com/QwcfRfN.png
W2 colo 
yep mine is only level 5, you zoomin
oh, ofc. that's a normal leveled prayer. lmao
so 118x8 traps x 9 alts = 8496 shiny/20min 😦
I’m a w2 colo hater 
fair
so you try to greenstack it ? 😉
Me too
Shit takes too long 
But biggie isnt gonna green stack himself
1178x 20min claims is a bit much 
even this 500k is too much
go for 60 min then ? XD
trickz if I ever dedicate myself to anything a tenth of your dedication to idleon I'll probably rule the world. congrats
Wont benefit the shiny though
To be fair, i only claim these 20min traps every 1-5h mostly 
I’m starting my trapping vials now too
cause u reminded me
What kind of captain rolls should I be searching for. I want like the blue ones with the anchor (skin is tiers I believe) right?
color is irrelevant
oh thank god
higher captain just has the chance of a higher range, but doesnt mean they are better
will it not be "best" to start on honky vain first ? ( more critters ) ?
I assumed you wanted high tier and high rolls. But I guess my captains are garbage
Speed and loot are great, having 1x be speed/cloud combo is great
it will only take you just under 393 straight hours, or ~16.4 days. do you really need sleep/to eat? 
Yes, i did get both honkers AND mice before leveling the shiny frog vial.. I kinda forgot it existed o.o
noob mistake assuming it wasn't done. lmao
As someone who just started caring about alchemy again (avg bubble level 95) where should I focus to get my dps up? Right now, I'm farming Gmush to get the warrior best bubble to 100mil and start atom upgrading it.
Do I want to aim for doubles or split perks. So like do I want a single sailor that's loot and loot and then one that's speed speed or two that are speed and loot

Remember you can manipulate the price by using the wrong alt and/or unlinking the vial boost in lab to make the cost go up
is higher level pirate flag on sb good? i've kept it min level until my damage caught up
No reason not to level it if you have the damage
That might help, I'll try that later. Current cost is 33mil, so it could be enough.
Imagine xD
i did crab already, and was halfway with mice to 1b when i decided that i wanted to do 1000 level trapping. ~ 120 more levels lol
Forgot about crabs. but yeh i have these vials, and only started the shiny frogs like 1.5ish days ago. They were still at a 50k cost to upgrade xD
https://i.imgur.com/kZWmp7j.png
Should have definetely gotten shiny frogs up earlier but for some reason i just thought i recalled them being useless?
your vials be shiny. i only have 40 done 
makes sense since most critter vials are more or less worthless 
You dont like your 52 cog storage?!
or some lab xp?
man how could i forget, i could click 52 times in a minute to max out storage instead of 45 or whatever before deleting all of the cogs since most were worthless too 
Exactly
Don't you want to be efficient?
Generally ES because portal spawns mobs that drop materials.
and better mk
mob drops are 99% of the time es
first question ...who has bigger mat bag?
What is quickest for 20k w3 statues, DK right?
Both same
See pins.
Anything on the base mobs drops come from ES
Anything from crystals DK
ES is actually better for the non-crystal statues for the same reason.
Ye ok,thx
some reason 🤔
u w0t m8
Lies, DK for w5 keys
Oh?
Pretty much the only exception xD
What’s the logic there? That’s a new one for me
Deep w5, much hp, wormhole hp scales too much for ES dmg to keep up, DK gets a huge orb score there too that helps
too much hp for portal scaling to matter
So w6 might be even worse for ES
whole Dk scales off just kills
I mean, es scales from kills too but those depends on damage
Hm, so then w6 looks to be where ES falls too
Realistically ES probably fails on other stuff too currently
ultra beans map on w6 
DK winning on keys only is assuming an end game ES
specially if your damage is ass. I wondered that sometimes but I haven't tested
A lot of player with lower damage might actually have other farms that ES is worse at but they dont know because they blindly copy endgamers without understanding the why behind the decisions
like "what should be the portal number needed to es to outdrop Dk"
Thats pretty true too, also situational on each person
you're wrong they can't read to copy
🤭
Good point
But consider, the mental bias: gotta go fast
just as info...NEVER run midas on ES
Forget information! Give me answers!
if I was to pull a number out of my ass I'd say 150
Even never running midas is a blindly copy thing that will screw people over eventually
based on pure: nothing
Because in theory midas is good on ES at certain damage thresholds
finally unlocked the chem plant, whats the strat? lol
but Dk orb number on the map also matters
Where’s that saved?
In Trickz's brain
Haven’t found it the few times I tried to
trickz personal stash
Can we get it pinned?
you've gotta save it on your phone, preferably multiple times and multiple versions so it gets very confusing when you wanna check
Do we ping a mod?
Dont pin it
??
no trick enjoy this 🤭
when it says your field is empty in step 4, that means empty of everything other than chems right?
you could also search from: trick has:image but that would defeat the purpose of getting yourself confused
so I do not recommend
Oh
afk, time to make some lunch.
W4 boss cape
thats good for bubo I need that O.o
I have a headache from trying to process all the things I have to do lol
just dont
I've already been not, that's why I'm having this problem XD
is there something wrong with the extra bribes ? i bought them all but i didnt get the 30 extra talent points n stuff
Star talent points right?
wishful thinking, if i filter bronze obols, do i automatically get frags for em
yeah i think its because i reset and didnt put points into the first tab
Nope
should be an automation arm upgrade
so its technically - talent points
Yep you prob still "owe" them back
World 6 when?
yes
my body is ready for w6 even though im not gonna roll it
farm map 1 ultra beans with DK for exp
W6 will all be beans 
perfect
In our dreams
I'm waiting for W8 boss to be the god of green mushrooms
And he gets stronger in proportion to how many of his kin you've slain back in W1.
better yet. every map is the boss of w1 mobs only the shitter of accounts will surpass the mega bean
Proceeds to do samples and done
I'm up to 24k keys spent, no capes, working toward 25k now
And its strength is based on your gmush kills xD
left click hold simulator xD
25.5k keys, now up to 20.07x dr.. capeless wonder
Did you activate the cape drop at the altar?
Make sure you talk to Oziach
is BB the best to push deathz note klls for v man unlock?
Nawh, its the altar with Father Aereck, you need to kneel before the altar and pray to rngesus
I always forget which one triggers what
Not the best, but you should since it helps for its progress for chow/superchow
is it worth using the deathnote prayer or is the dmg loss too much?
Bit situational, early game it can help, later game its terrible, also very mob specific.
lab node for 2x too. Maximize afk gain, mk/tier bubble etc.
ty
Gaming - is there a good guide besides "IdleOn Guide Sheet"?
It's taking forever to build up bits, to unlock more features.
Your gonna need 10m more dogs if your greenstackin deez nuts.
Is it worth to premiumify the Funny Hat or is there some other helmets that are more worth?
Dont u lose the bonus when u premiumify? Funny hat rn is best for cooking and maybr some other things like trapping
dont give lava that idea lol
Yeah the funny hat is the worst possible hat you could ever make premium
Oooh, I thought you kept the bonus. I misunderstood

