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What if last map of w6 is poor bubo/DK maps?
Back to socks it is
there are no bad bubo maps
Or whichever map is good since money will be better
Mine?
Wood shroms definitely isn't a good bubo map
yes yours
I wanna ask for the most optimal gear for w5 progression if anyone Dosent mind
ok...low mob count is bad for bubo
Technically wood shrooms is fine for bubo, itβs problem isnβt the platforms

yes its low mob count
istg lava specifically programmed for the squirrel to walk over chems 24/7
low ms
Ikr
nicee
I have baby bubo damage π’
But I don't really quick slap or hourly click, so kinda expected
8 more LLs to go....
1 main pusher that can active push should be wearing up to Chizoar full gear.
All 9 other sub characters that afk push can stop at dementia gear
- Rings (rex ring with w5 stone) amulet (chizoar scarf on everyone)
All W5 stones
Its a waste of material to craft a bunch of void sets or chizoar, just keep it at 1 and swap everyone later to troll > magma gear once u are stronger
quickslap for bubo is a lie! my dmg just doesnt go up on him
strugglng to reach 10T
Any dooters able to confirm if I still need to have any characters in lab if I have all gods unlocked?
does "the family guy" talent stack for SB? I know the talent is for the individual character but does the bonus to sailing only come from the best SB?
yes, need div for minor bonus, also at least 1 manual link for Purrmep
also iirc all family bonus do not stack, it picks the highest level rather than highest value or stacking values up
So as long as I have one character linked to purrmep and everyone on Zen then I don't need anyone in lab?
thanks, checking the family tab for first time just now and that appears so
yes, or rather everyone on Tranqi not Zen
ahh yeah Tranqi, my b
or Zen if going into lab
I think I've unlocked up to mindful, so will take everyone out of lab and put them on Tranqi
any card guides considering rift passive upgrades?
Hit 100% eff
High afk%
High card drop rate
Is pretty much it
I think these two are conspiring against me to not combine. Been like 25 tries
2% chance of not combining after 25 tries :/
With sailing trade offers the ratios the guy offers change, I haven't tracked this but are some more efficient or are they all effectively the same, for any given treasure that is?
he either asks for your highest ships loot value, or like 20% of what you own, whichever is higher
The resource to gold ratio should be consistent, though. Later materials trade for more
Is it possible to re-roll dice obols for higher drop rates?
Re-rolled mine like 10 times and it didnβt change so was wondering
Hm Iβll try again later then
Yep
Sakori taught me that. Finally got all silver pops now just need gold dice, got my blue and spiky dice already
Then to do the same for the family obols π
whats the max percent for plat dice obols?
11
yay new nugget 3175 from 2352 (before that was some 2100 )
it will, a full set of pop obols and dice obols will give you like +1.5x drop rate which will see dividends over time
at 12DR without it that'll be like a 10-15% increase
omg... my luck is trash went from 60K to 90K to 100k while i see nug in the million XD
And here i am with 300 nugs
Someday i will reach that
Its possible to take hampter printer sample, right?
no
can only sample the first thing in a mobs drop list
stiltmoles have stilt poles so thats all you can sample
imagine you can sample alchemy liquids
i mean, Bubo can already create a tonne of liquids from thin air xD
and murder, lots of mob murder
yeah sure but imagine a greenstack of liquids
Greenstack boss keys
greenstack distilled water? xD
greenstack golden food
greenstack my money on bank
lol
Greenstack serotonin
Go the the desired map you wanna farm with your DK -> Swap to another character with Construction Obols equipped > Not sure if necesarry, but check Cog page of Construction > Swap back to your DK you farm on. You will have the effect of Construction obols as long as you don't look at the Cogs page of Construction!
This way you have the effect of Construction and Drop Rate Obols
just add a zero, easy
Oh, btw, is it worth spending bits on the 40% more stats from obols from gaming?
@teal lynx what's the best spot in w2 for farming dice obols? have to upgrade 2 pop obols more then i'm done with my first set for personal/family
Usually sand pots
Sand Pots. This way you farm Glass Shards as well as dice obols. You gonna need Glass Shards at some point
Use DK for this
I mean eventually it will be free when you make 1000000x more per second than what that costs
Thank youuu
soooo don't save up for it, just click when it's easy
dice obols will take much longer than pops ig
Pops you only need to go to silver dice you go to purple so yea
smart ill jsut do that XD
Make sure to get your crystal cards upgraded before farming Dice Obols. 4 Star Poop and 3 Star Genie atleast. If possible also 4 Star Genie (think Genie was a little harder to farm)
I just finished my dice today after 3 days (except one big one in the middle as you can see. Time for pops
Whats the highest nugget you guys have seen?
21m
aight ty, would like to have 4 star genie but i need like 200 cards more
very nice grats!
What's a good way to increase Bubo's dmg
kidnap his wife (works for mario)
Alchemy, Base stat, Name I guess, Quickslap, Bubbles all around
yeah need the 2 chips and the cards highly upgraded
Cards (and card doublers), Shrine, Stamp and the Star Talent are the important ones I can think of
there's a vial as well right?
EDIT: nvm I was wrong
You can check IT or IE to see where you get crystal chance from. Those are maxed stats (except for Stamp and Shrine lvl 19) you can compare yourself to
Quick slap? The green colour ones?
Bubble 6, yes
Name I guess is more reasonable, since u can hourly click it easily. I just spent way too much atoms into Quick Slap
its much cheaper to just farm normal bosses for gems and then buy a ruby cardifier instead of killing them on nightmare versions right?
pretty much
lmao pics like this remind me why im early game
just triple checking here cause I will do this later today: If i drop 20k of the kachow and xp statues to onyx them it doesn't matter what bonuses I have since that is just to onyx it?
it does matter
onyx just doubles it
also DROP on ground. if you hand it in in menu it doesnt onyx
but it always doubles it
Unfortunately I am just a mid game player 
they havent onyxed kachow yet
Just onyx them. Every onyx deposited increases the statue exp gained from depositing ANY statue.
yeah i use everything out of that except the shrine, a bit is missing for getting it
will get it today tho
can you elaborate on what you mean?
This is what I was looking for thanks
Should i onyx statues first or wait till i get 100% on snake vial?
if you have 10% crit dmg, once you onyx it will be 20% crit dmg
but later statues you drop that level it to, say 15% crit dmg, will always give you double meaning you'll get 30% dmg
onyxing always, deposit after
I jsut had that question answered
Onyx doesnt give exp, snake doesnt apply.
unrelated to snake vial, so just onyx, snake isnt going to do anything for onyx drops
onyx whenever, deposit when u 100% snake and get full onyx
ive got my 80k kachows waiting to deposit once i get 100% snake but god it takes so long
im almost done onyxing everything and not even close to 100% yet
This message here is important. Read it again, dont forget it. Dont make the mistake.
Yeah gotta get so many vials to 13
27 including snake
Yea
im ashamed
yeah only a few people have made that mistake but I bet they are not doing it with kachow as their first onyx π
sure, but tbh just active and walk away for 30 min, youll have the tears when you get back regardless of build (unless your dmg sucks) its one of the easiest rift types
after getting printing go brr to 245 i failed to get a cooldown reset 5 days straight.. smh
I make sure to change map 2 times. Feels like it doesn't work properly when I haven't changed maps
Yeah I feel like the percentage is never accurate for what my experience is. it is more like 50-50 lol
but I haven't studied the statistics though...
yeah i see that it's pretty fast
got 2 in 5 min
we have a perception bias to notice failure more than successes...that or its lava coding
I got no procs for 8 days and then I got a 17 Streak. So printer go brr is really random...
17 after 8 days aint enough.
ive had multiple streaks before as well but they never mattered as much as they do now that I need a bunch of vials lol
Max meme damage in 20 days 
My meme damage will take a bit longer than that 
I'll be 10k qs and around max equinox bonus about the same time
100Q damage 
Don't think so. I don't bubble click bubble 1s enough
you get 1b gold ore hourly? what print sample size you need for that?
Debating whether i want to candy them to 10k lol
If I did full meme damage I'd be at maybe 2Q I think.
Bubble 1 
Well name I guess is doing work too. Thats up to 7.6k
Would only take 1k hours to get str to 10k
Your gonna lose a lot of the resources due to carry cap though
So it'll end up higher than that
minor link bonus and blessing bonus, which one bonus is activated only when connect to specific god?
Yeah that's fair. Maybe lava will fix that
Minor link requires connection and blessing does not
thx π
any tips on dealing with healers on blood berserker during w5 boss fight?
Check the vman kattle pin. BB follows the same battle strat
anyone know what the key combination is to refresh the idleon window when you get flashbanged / white screened?
are dmg obols used in any builds?
found it, ctrl + r
already unlocked all gods, is it still worth it to place 4-5 in lab with goat god?, currently all farming hamster for material pouch upgrade
FYI all 10 chars still bind under bear god
quick question, chaotic chizoar card (should be 20% shrine effect for me) isn't working? I've reload the map, went to gem shop, etc.. no change in dmg, drop rate or HP and I have these shrines at level 13
i recall there is a debuff in the lab that stop you from getting shrine exp but enables shrine buff in that world
technically you won't gain any shrine exp?
if you're following old guides- this card is passive now when it used to be manual. The effect is active permanently
you used to be able to equip+double it
but lava took it out because of shenanigans
Oh I didn't realize that was the meaning of passive! thanks
yup, all passive cards are 24/7 on
you'll unlock the ability to make skilling cards passive too later
My bad i mistake it as shrine exp gain
When you get skill mastery, anything with (P) shown on the card name is also passive (once you get to far enough in the rift
and man is it convenient
there's a few other cards which are naturally passive too, mostly just star talent points tho
yes it is
is it rift related? sounds very cool
Yup, skill mastery
already unlocked all gods, is it still worth it to place 4-5 in lab with goat god?, currently all farming hamster for material pouch upgrade
FYI all 10 chars still bind under bear god
Any advice fo this?
if you need the lav level still (75+) then yes, otherwise just use tanqi and go about your day
all are above lv80 for lab
What obols are you guys running on your vman ?
Just DR ?
In that case use tranqi and consider using rabbit god for 3x (6x in lab) prints instead
Madlad
I'll get them all to 1000 eventually I'm just lazy
The minor link bonus from Arctis ( + talent levels), if the current bonus gives +2 levels, does changing gods for an additional character to arctis, now provides +4 total levels from the minor link bonus?
Except cooking/breeding anyway
it's personal to the character linked unless it specifies "ALL CHARACTERS" on it
for example, goat:
noted, thank you
what about the other 4? 1 purrmep 3 ommniphau?
as an extra note, the actual scaling of minor bonus is from your divinity level+Big P bubble
Just get doot and dont worry to what god you link 
oh snap, thank you for the heads up
bruh i bought 3 packs no doot
I keep BB on snek for +30% afk gain on ladles. Two ES on Bear/rabbit.
bubo stays on bear because I'm activing it, DK too cause I often swap back π
I'm not the best person for god advice haha
we're working on it
Skill issue 
nah more like LUCK issue lol
Credit card limit issue 
currenlty im using ES to farm rare drops and mob drops, just done with onyx pass 2 days
back to skill issue in workplace, poor skill poor salary :x
I could easily afford doot, I just refuse π
im saving for w6 pack :x
ya most likely
sheepie π¦

Ulti wow alright
When do you guys think w6 will come out?
after 25
Thinking of spending gems or not
w6?
ah right lmao
we're unlikely to see it in november, we've not seen any of the skills in future content blog yet
S O O N
Mabye surprise release today 
December
Next year probably
ya right
Getting some of that copium in today
Sorry I was afk. My 62m sample gives me 795m Gold an hour. Using 2 slots it would give me more than a billion. But one is enough for me rn. I just click the bubble every 2 hours
Yesss >:]
Sure (im probably worse)
hm mine is around ~35m
Maybe its time for me to start doing samples for bubbles instead of atoms for a while
might be next project after onyxes/vials
Yeah that sample was without a good god setup. Probably can get to 100m now
Clicking Bubbles is exhausting, especially when you need to do 9 or more at a time. But it is worth it
i assume u split stack mats?
No?
U mean several stacks of one resource in my storage chest?
It will only fill the first one
i thought max stack is 1050m?
Maybe I'm not sure what u mean with split stack then
yayam wont it cost like 1b mats per upgrade at end end game?
Yeah and I get more than a Billion per hour. But Printer only fills up the top left most stack
is there a max stack on chest? maybe i turn off atom collider completely
and then just click the bubbles all at once
1050m, with collider turned off anything more still gets converted to atoms
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Do you mean this when talking about split stacking? This doesn't work unfortunately
yeah, it'll fill the left slot then start converting to atoms
then how do you store enough mats(several billions) mats upgade?
Bubbles only go up to 1 Billion
mats never go above 1b yeah
ah i seee¬
Pain

Alchemy is pain
tbh alchemy is the only thing endgaming has
when youre done with everything leveling up bubbles is basically what you have to do
all roads lead to alchemy
im glad people stopped posting this tho
so true
i remember when i was early game there was a ton of shit i could do to improve but people just kept spamming "alch"
generic "alch" used to be more valid
it never stops
like actual early game
you were in a race to max out as many bubbles asap so nblb would take them past what was typically possible
as atoms didn't exist yet
im not even at a point where i care about what nblb upgrades yet, just too much effort
at one point i was doing it for diamond chef but not anymore
thats me, nblb help me push passively when I cant generate enough mats for upgrades
so afk faster and harder?
like, my stamps are just on a full stop
everyday i pray for the 75% chance to get a gilded stamp to hit and get +10 on multitool
so all upcoming upgrades will only cost 1b?
enlighten me with gilded stamp feature?
its lower than I thought π¦
yup, even the very highest bubbles cap at 1b
so THATs why I keep missing, its 72 not 75
basically my multitool stamp costs like 900m motes to upgrade but with the gilded stamp it costs like 25m
So i have 5x chances 40% cost reduction?
no
god damn a 60+ omni
you have a single use 40% off, and 5 95% offs
40% cost reduction is another thing entirely
both are used automatically

the next 5 upgrades you do you'll only pay 5% of the actual cost
not gold, materials
upgrade in max level
so which one will be consume 1st? 40% of 95%?
and you have a %chance to get one daily based on your stamps levels
both at the same time
both get used at once
And 34% as well........... jesus
but the 40% will only be used once
65% is really good? I didn't know that haha
It is for the corner cog, those are rare as shit to roll with XP in the first place
say a stamp cost 1k materials
40% rexu reduces the cost to 600
95% redux then reduces it again to 30
after you spend it, you'll have 0% and 4x 95%'s
how ccan you even use that corner cog tho looked like trash to me
Ik. Played some Cog Clicker for that. But I don't know how rare/high the individual directions go
I only have one corner bog but you just aim it at your DKs
ah I thought corner cogs affected the actual corners of the map lol
how do you get void cog?
the silver ones? Gem shop
Min Cog is still 75% xp for me. Need some more Cog Clicker. Especially since I hit lvl 500 yesterday
even small silver cogs?
oh I still have my barb on the table should i take him out
yeah, there's 8 purchases. You get 1 small and 1 big section per buy
future you will thank yourself to start getting more purple directional cogs
dont laugh i only got the last corners this week XD
current you will want to die
even without exp%?
where the special is +% exp
those directional cogs only affect chars and not other cogs right?
Dude why does my luck suck in a good way
err fak u?
honestly the lack of sheepie/ram would still be really annoying lmao
I thought Lava made it like so that you can't get untradeable doots?
it IS
Not if you roll them naturally
free shyt no b!tching
Sorry for ping again. Is there a Pin/Message whatever which shows the max/high values of the respective directional cogs?
i need to play some cogstrruction clicking but too lazy for now
win?
also, why is the directional cog that good?
Isnt it just 60% exp? wouldnt it be better to get a generic 60+ exp one?
i have doot, and got my first character to 75 in lab. (ES). What do i do with them now? Let them fight/skill, or stick them in divinity?
they're separate multipliers
Say you have +300% board exp, and +300% directional exp. Combined they're 900%
so even a 0% "normal" exp cog with directional %exp multiplier is better?
that i didnt know
time to play some cog clicking
correct me if im wrong
No idea, but my highest normal cog is 115% xp and I think my best directionals give around ~65% to tiles
my numbers are slightly off here but you get what I mean
Not sure what the maximums are or how they scale
so i guess this one i have is insane
yeah it's a good one, cap is 65% on directionals for exp
Ahh it was the guaranteed which has to be rolled with gems right?
except for yangs?
except for those yeah
fun note, those used to be worse. Lava buffed them cause they were worthless π
i was watching heat stream last night, he booked his squire from 200 cog exp book to 300. and the additive didn't budge his xp per hour. not even 0.01.
yeah, i just got stupidly lucky
What's the %xp max? non-directional
:o
im upset about FOUR crystals though, like sheepies a 17% chance yet i can hit the like 4% chance 4 times
What's your best?
i have doot, and got my first character to 75 in lab. (ES). What do i do with them now? Let them fight/skill, or stick them in divinity?
Anyone got like 200+?
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
They should have already gotten Divinity XP while being in Lab
Do directional cog buff only chars and not other cogs?
So for Div you want to put them in Lab. You could also farm with them or do whatever you like
Ahh well I know what I am going to do for the rest of the day apparently
bruv tell me about that
madness
i so tempted just to press harvvest all
What does the one use only mean for the golden stopwatchs?
Still don't understand why that would have to be mentioned in the shop xD
Is it different from balloons for example?
Woodular shrine leveled up last night
he is no longer a teen.
does anyone have a team for this ?
yes, it's looter refiller peapeapod borger
does anyone here use steam remote link, and does it lag anything
peapeapod?
hedgehog
Thought it was going to take me months to get the chems but only took about 1 week of actively trying π₯³
ty
is there another one other than hedgehog for people who dont have all pets yet?
I just went RNG with it and used looter refiller borger and rattler and took me about 4 tries.
brave
Looter really pulling all the weight, just got to pray for eggshells
How do I check which monsters my Blood Berserker killed 1m+ times?
Open codex and look at the monster card info
or look at idleontoolbox/idleonefficiency
managed to get to wave 149 with the looter refiller peapeapod borger combo yesterday (having just unlockedpeapod doge), prior to that i hadn't got past 90.
Congrats Tselkie, round of opplause
applause*
but the point being peapod >>> rattler for that comp
bruh i just used w5 upgrade stones on all my characters next tier of weapons using the same char cos i didn't realise it was the main stat of the character i was using and not the main stat of the weapon...
welcome to using upgrade stones
you must be new to using them, as that is how they have always worked
why did i only just notice now ;-;
the only ones that don't are the ones that specifically say so
any ways to up my chances? or should i just go with 3.6%
only world 4 and 5 stones do mainstat, the prior 3 do random stats, its understandable to not notice it
spent almost a week encouraging the little guy. i just don't want him to fail, my level 4 sodium atom is sitting on the sidelines waiting for him to cross the finish line
Just cook it on your first kitchen while your other kitchens do meals and spam 1 ladle at a time
Kinda annoying but itβs the most efficient
You can do 2 if you want and do the other recipe itβs just slightly less efficient
Where are the Neptune's that show in the chow list in IE in chizoar cavern?
aren't they the eye things outside the boss room itself?
finally got around to booking this, time for the exp to flow 
@fervent yew I have 6 M kills and IE mentions I'm missing 999 kills
i think its bugged, its doing the same for me, but it is chowed
IE lists the chizoar map incorrectly, most mobs maps have a chow but not that one
Ok
for example, the poops in the Dr D boss map have a unique chow
as does the acorn at the bottom of the tree
is there a guide for the citrine tower defense?
don't forget the endless slog that is the active invisible gmush in doot's room π
You done the maths on equinox map yet? It's not pretty
Looks at the IE chow list, goes off to chow the companion park
farm that one while farming your doots lol
at what level does the posion tower become better over boulder
it can't hurt me if i don't acknowledge it
it's like 4500 claims or so π
that's annoying, but honestly not as terrible as it could be
i think the time spent in doot's room is worse imo lmao
purely because you can only do that one while being active
technically boops are terrible as well, but that's expected
months
Only thing I can find is cooking speed for new recipe
So if you get enough cooking speed you can get higher fire tier
my BB has 5t dmg, and with the MK i get ~34k boops per day or so
can't wait until this is atom-able 
Does build speed obols also give additional xp ?
No
And it doesnt work when afk iirc
con obols are great when you are active playing if you're pushing buildings. they don't work afk though so DR obols still win out
Thanks guys
esp if you are on DK or a warrior class
try to get to the next closest +.51% DR point and then swap out for some con obols then
With pop obols I may reach 12.51
then get them lol
But why is it a milestone, I don't remember
the .51%? points? statue drop rates are effected every "X" that number
Oh ok, and that's only valide for statues ?
kinda like money benchmarks are every 2.00 drop rate (5, 7, 9, 11, etc.)
yes every item has a different point depending on it's base drop rate
No need for crystal spawn right ?
don't forget to reroll them as you make silvers for the extra DR % (only need to do the left hand one)
no, its for anything in a sub-table. you get x rolls on that table where x is DR/ table odds.
Yeah I do that, really useful
on ES crystal doesn't matter as much, but they don't hurt you
Ok perfect, I double DR instead of crystal spawn rate to reach an extra .51%
Oh wait
Obols aren't statues
anyway, still better to double DR
ES should be DR first, damage as a secondry concern, crystal doesnt matter because you shouldnt be crystal farming on them anyway
How much coppers, bleach logs, hotdogs i need to be a jman (im lazy to count)
i'm too lazy to look at your quest log for you
im too lazy to read what the question was
bro
Cmon
5
Just check how much you need of everything then do the maths
How much peanuts do i need thn?
5
!wiki
Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/
And you want us to search ?
Yesπ
1300 Hot dogs, 650 copper ore and 650 bleach logs
For the first part
no you need 6900 hotdogs, 420 copper ore, and 360 bleach logs
Then it's 2000 Hot dogs, 1000 copper ore and 1000 bleach logs
For all?
So 3300 Hot dogs, 1650 copper and 1650 bleach logs
Thanks bro
I think so
Respect is urs
Np
π
you should've kept him typing here longer than it would've taken to look it up himself!
is there a way to see how many of the w6 bubbles i have unlocked?
I've a project to do for uni, every second I spend doing something else is a second I don't spend working
there is a spreadsheet that gives you a rough idea, but i don't have it sorry
It takes 1 min to look it up
So he was already typing for long enough
I wouldn't worry too much about it
If he adds new bubble just put all char on cauldron and play Bubo for 1 hour
ye not a huge deal, just something I am trrying to get done
would rather have them available to start tho
Yeah you're right, I may do that after onyx statues
i gotta wait for chocco to do my statues
lol
I hope chocco chip come soon
december!
i'm getting to the point that green stacks are hard and i don't want to put in the effort for more lol
I was at 102 when I came back a week ago(from 4 months break)
They absolutely do give exp as well
Con obols are incredibly strong
Since then I got at least 20 new slab, few onyx statues and those 13 green stacks (+ others things like last ancient artifact)
I forgot how slow the pop obols farming was 
And I guess it was even slower before without that much DR (idk if ES was out yet)
ehehe
What was your treshold to know when to hatch or not ?
Any tips how can i get 1 billion sample to finish dream#27?
I want to level up breeding but don't know when to hatch
asap
What's your current copper sample ?
Are you sure about that ?
u just said level up breeding
idk my exp multi might have been kinda low, but i just did it at 14.8 multi. i was getting .09% progress per shiny and just saw i had enough eggs to do it
all the eggs give the same exp
I don't think so
No rare eggs definitely give more
they give more but its more efficient doing white
But you still harvest asap for max exp though
but the smaller eggs give more dead cells
shiny pets give slightly more exp too
I've almost the same samples, I think we're still to low level to get to 1B
Ok thanks guys !
My keyboard isn't plugged in just gonna keep reacting
to stuff lmao
I'll just spam them then
But the best thing to push sample is to be at 90% sample + max afk gain + max skill eff
Don't think there are any other tips
What's the speed cap ?
Fishing is no cap right
just finished my goal of getting all pets to level 5 shiny
now to start leveling up further the useful ones
Ive been messed up this entire time on shiny pet breeding....
I tried getting shiny pets by just spamming the breeding normal not knowing i had to click the shiny pet
F
I was wondering why the heck I didnt get a single shiny
Now im full of G mush shinies
gonna leave em on there for a good while
nice, dont forget to do the other shiny speed ones too
should be in #1084911530417606656 but if you need i have it saved
can you stack crystal island's crystal indefinitely?
it stacks for a like a week or so i believe
Maxes out at a week iirc
I'm sure trying
fuck
lol
I don't think it has been a week tho
so best visit with vman once every 3days?
it is just than I'm farming with my es then I have to swap everything to my Dk to farm those. last time I got a orb up to 120 on there
I'd guess a Dk with choco is better cause orb but idk
don't know vman's crystal spawn talent works on normal mobs or crystal mobs as well but i bring my vman and gain 1 lv from398>399
is dragonic cauldron worth it?
orb isnt that good for crystal island, use it more for exp pruposes
ye?
someone fucked up my 100...
Non't
i got 2k
slam that shit
should i get 1 or 2
i think its a 1 time right
welp, I guess I should get it then. I'm sitting at 1.5k
oh ye
yup 1 time
So its worth it
def
godkast on what world now?
5
i'm gonna have to start feeding these guys man they are around for breakfast lunch and dinner
oh then go for it
especially since when it comes around again you buy it for the next cauldron
how long are yours lasting now? mine last like 5s into each other and I'm real happy about it. lmao
with that they last 76 seconds
I haven't got the vman buff yet
oh, that's amazing
I'd react with the animated one but.... lmao
can you choose which talent to buff?
I've been trying to get red rage artifact for like a week now for getting some stuff up but no luck
I'm also missing the slug
if you choose not to level it yes, but each 25 levels is a set buff
are exp statues easier to farm in other maps that drop them on the basic table (either coconut, mashed potatoe, pincer or sand castles) or just stick to sand pots?
i grinded w2 statues off of crystals at sandy pots
got all that extra glass too which was nice
but can i reset with talents point reset rtight?
these guys?
gem shop has an upgrad eand task board merits
idk what else i dont know much
could be more
there is also the dream artifact
dream catcher I think. it gives one per artifact level... I think
are there any that you would choose not to buff? π€
no lol
oh, ok. you never know. lmao
what do i do now? 
if u did the equinox challenge then try to get nug i guess
digging every chance i get
at least its not another molti
The rare person without 18 Moltis
Yin yang cogs raise stats with max con level?
whats a good strat for early game sailing?
always push cloud if timer is 8h or under, otherwise get artifacts u need
what can i do to improve my ES dmg ? struggling with rift 44
wish the first one was speed :/
probably alchemy π items are good
You're missing a good source of wisdom somewhere too
I don't hourly click and have 18k
most bubbles are 100-150+
I've read this "hourly clicking" before but I dont understand the context, what does it mean?
same question
It means printing enough to level particular bubbles every hour
Bubble costs cap at 1000m resources
does that only apply if you have king doot ?
Ah, so you're not slowed down by the daily limit of particles?
Simple stuff like Oak Logs, Copper Ore, etc. You can print many billions per hour
No, it applies if you have printer and alchemy unlocked. It becomes easier to hourly click with lab bonuses and doot.
exactly
a lot of logs/ore in particular can be clicked
so for my wisdom, is it because i'm missing ancient/eldrictch of the stats in sailing ?
It is because your purple 1 bubble is tiny
could be, could also be the slab bonus in alchemy or something similar
Thanks, that makes sense. Now to get to a level where this becomes relevant for me π
hey don't be mean to small bubbles π¦
ouch O_O
I'm gonna start the clicks soon I think. I have the stats, just need to do it
I'm not hardcore about clicking hourly, but my purple1 is 4k. That gets increased by Severapurple to be something like 9k WIS on Mages
barely done that either π
Long way to go I'm afraid
is it more beneficial to have the maestro/vman have the highest skill levels to give more efficency to all the characters that have less levels than them?
hare god + lab = x6, two slots = x12. You can hourly click with that sample if so inclined
I wouldn't, but it's an option π
wouldn't because?
atoms
yeah, you're at the point where you'd lose most of your atoms doing it
what artifacts would be good to get?
generally all good, max talent is goated, ideally if you have island unlocked you can check it and look which would be best for you at your point in prog
might go do honkers next for the critter gains
Not too behind, honestly
honkers are huuuuuge, should have done it before crabbos honestly
Got king doot as a suprise but my nugget is still at 10k with shoveling since release π
Have you entirely ignored Equinox? There is no way lol
Still not that far into it so idk what equinox shovelling is
Guaranteed increases until you get a new best nugget
I can get my minimum nuggets over 10k in an hour after a new nugget..
Oh boy good to know, thank you! I hope I can get that far.
My honker vial took me ~28 days to finish iirc
right, honkers are go. Guess I wanna re-do it once I hit 12
I've realized a bunch of people cant get the nugget unlock
Yeah, nugg is actually fairly far in
I did mine at 557k honkers displayed per 40hr royal
Yup
really? i don't think my account is that great and I got it
keep in mind currently not all unlocks are there - nugg is the 4th last upgrade
you're probably doing better than you think
oh, wow. you're right
aw fuck how do you farm the 20k bullseye statue?
a lot of people suck at dungeons so that takes up 2-3 spots, and then cc apparently is some calc 404 shit too
ive been a month farming equinox statues tho
and getting the last upgrade suuuuccks
monolith statue quest gives 10k and you have 10 characters π
i have good news everybody, my mr multikill bubble got nblb'd yesterday!
a fuckton of candies at nuts or active es at wood shroon
new cost is 49.5m almost there
Luckily most of the "unlock next equi upgrade" itself are pretty easy itself, but some are just timegated for whatever how far you are, like 140 shrines or 60 refinery. A semi-new w5er may not be able to do at all
isn't that kachow and skill xp?
Same as maxing 5 stats in dg, technically easy but also easily neglected and then timegated
it doesnt
currently doing that active and I have 13dr and am getting 4k statues a day
Idk, should I make a active DK first or a active Bubo? Bubo is weaker than I thought..
since the statues are in the rare bags instead of out of it wouldnt it be better dk?
yeah I got it wrong, forgot the quest haha
spreaking of honkers, guess I should get thie achievement...
I barely play dungeon and I had like all but ms capped when equinox came out which I capped to do dungeon 3
guess I'm really doing better than I was thinking
DK is easier to get going damage wise, but doesn't really excel until you have high crystal chance
if u have enough kph just eclipse wood shrooms and sticks and you should be pretty close
I do have chips and 2 double card consoles
by candy
oh, noh. Dk is better for crystal drops because he multiplies that. the rare bags es can get that with wormhole
people keep saying that "rare bags = Dk" and idk what that came from but it is wrong and I have tested it to check
I don't know where that came from either, but I hate it. Jman has the ONLY bonus influence to "within a rare bag" in the entire game.
people wrongly assumed crystals drop all rare bag items
you can test too. just get each for an hour and compare numbers. sure, an hour is a very low sample but it should be noticeable. go longer if you don't believe me and it will be even clearer
if they did, it'd be true
Drops from a crystal, miniboss, event critter = dk
Drops from a base monster = es
World boss = Vman
my kph is kind of garbage but I guess ill test it out
Hey, do ppl still give feedback on what to improve based on the idleonefficiency?
the goose is loose
In easier words
ES = Only affects drops from mobs spawning from the wormhole itself
DK = Drops from any other mob (crystal, miniboss, colo)
:goose:
tricks is typing and I remembered he did collect a fuckton of data on it. don't believe me, believe him
Is there an appropriate channel for that?
Technically in the world chat but before you post it, make sure you clean it up
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
no. you need to get lucky for someone to be interested in you. lmfao. like other people said it is almost always alchemy or stamps
so it gets boring to say that everytime
Here's a review, most this stuff is relevant to most people too xD
#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
i die a little inside everytime someone posts their w5 profile wearing iron tools
like ffs update your equipment folks
I die when i see 25-30+ books and they have the achievement at like 50/1k
Then you see maxed minibosses and 1-2 daily world keys
i die when red salts are "ready to claim"
just the boost from tool's stones is really fucking huge
People in w5 still having alts at level 1 skills
I'm working on having dreadlo tools on all my chars just because more stats
GOOD @hachin then we can stop making fun of you finally
currently gated at black bars 
time to get them archers to work
I somehow got my black salt to lvl 7 and it Gobbles up every bar in existence while my green is at like 11
but my salts 
Just need to make bars faster 
https://i.imgur.com/ALtsiOj.png
I probably should
you're not getting salts if it's eating all your bars either
get some bars, make your stuff, turn it back on π
I also ran out of copper bars too because of post office
take some of trickz
not even using oil? damn.
Nobody would use oil on low bars..
you can't use oil with copper for very long π
oil...? lol
I could take half of it and he wouldn't notice
Is that just from archer AFK gains?
you can have some of my bars if you like
Always remove copper/iron/gold bars from storage before you do PO box, bars are more worth than a pen
oh, I've been using the last shop oil for everything. should I not?
with 2 min claims the oil is gone really fast so it doesn't really matter
Purely from greenstacking the middle one here, the left one was about 15m+ bars
https://i.imgur.com/ftZ3c2p.png
I see. so I should just refresh over those orders? thanks.
It matters a lot for later bars
yes, but if your spam clicking on your tablet, cause 2 fingers = OP, easier to just put the bars on an alt
oh, ofc. that's what I was thinking. I only open idleon on my phone for boxes π
even with a mouse you mindlessly click
down, up up
down, up up
300k Stock, 50% consume chance, so the last oil would last for 600k bars. thats like 416m bars there xD
I see. I just leave it there forever and it never ran out. lmao
is this suppost to happen that ther is one comming from the other side?
neat never seen it do that before lol
He got confused 
at least it didn't purple zoom you to death
the kraken eyes herding the lost baby 'tringe to the rest of its pack
best map to farm w4 statues? go
Pins
dumb question, what does greenstacking actually do? and what is it for
okay so, since I'm crearly making an ass of myself, I'll ask: how should I do the bars? aside from active, ofc. I've been just letting them sit there full of oil and that is it
REMINDER: Buy your Pickle, Oils, Bags, eye, w5 stones!
Is there a recommended order for sailing artifacts to eldritch?
yeah but i lost 3 hp

damage from lab, equinox dreams
75 more pickles
oh
Lava is a monster 
just buy 75 gold clocks

Canβt I need to max DR book
is it better to active farm with ES for rare drops or afk farm?
75?
92 is for quitters
Active is always better.
81 
Active. Wormhole does nothing offline and is the only reason ES is good at farming rares.
Still forgetting to buy since update 
halp
ok thanks, is the drop rate increase per mob killed or per wave of mobs killed?
Minimum Shopping List!
https://i.imgur.com/42He1UF.png
Iβm not buying the regular oil 
when should i try to research new mutations in gaming ? is there a sweet spot? or just go for 100% each time
this works with afk multikill. 2 mins of gmush will completely eat the ore in your forge
and convert them to bars
Always spam
You cant do 100%
oh, this works afk? damn
huh thanks, just unlocked new plant at 0.5%
thats why i had 26m bars per slot o.o actual cap was ~45k per 2min claim
the sweet spot is 1 thingy and up. unfortunately. just always press it
I never knew. all of those stuff only work active. lmfao
your limit is the number of ore you can put in the slot (as it has to refuill between claims)
I will work on that. thanks y'all
so the w5 achievement and arcade capacities are important
That is why it is important to get 5m citringe w5 achievement and Arcade forge cap
5m citringe gives +50% forge cap
(I'll confess that until a couple weeks ago I thought that the talent worked for the anvil)
reading is hard
I made th same mistake at one point, reading IS hard
So these were my limits per bar:
https://i.imgur.com/XI5LLps.png
45k per 2 min claim...jesus you're efficient.
577 2 min claims between 3 archers
I burnt through 500+ 1h candy for the greenstack
Always save 1-2h andy for the sb
How do you increase ore cap in the forge?
Why are we buying bags? π― and anvil resets?
I'm in the middle of a "philosophy of love" class right now so thanks for teaching me the important stuff
Biggie boss
Bags for candy
each bag is worth several hours of candy, anvil tab 2 for eye to make biggie boss items
Ahhh
Looks like this:
https://i.imgur.com/GQc0ur4.png
Only ever crafted that for vman and forgot
Thatβs a lot of candy
Thanks!
trickz should give some out for Halloween
We are giving out the big bars tonight π
Might have to toss in a potato, some kids go crazy for the potato.
is the ES drop rate buff per number of portal kill?
yes, so more dmg more dr
it is
so i have 47 on my portal rn, thats increasing my dr by ~500%
I don't wanna sound rude but sometimes you really ought read the skill
I know where I'm going tonight 
i wasn't sure whether the size of the mobs increasing made a difference
it is not always that it works like it is written but most of the time it is. lmao
There's no actual "wave", thats just you killing the mobs in waves
At least from what i thought π€
Theres no waves. When you kill a mob it spawns a mob
@signal osprey
Do you know the order for easiest-hardest to greenstack these? (the ones i have left to do)
https://i.imgur.com/1YXqJFH.png
At low portal counts it might seem like waves though because one lightning barrage kills the entire portal so then you spawn an entire portal of mobs
Instablabs are probably easiest simply because of how close you are. DK at bloodbones farms them pretty fast
how do you guys juggle trying to greenstack materials while still leveling up alch bubbles? i just started grinding CC on my bubo and i'm swimming in liquid but don't want to spend it on stuff thats at 2-3m materials
and rn for candy sb?
can you ancient more that 1 trophy
or whatever those are called
i havent even got to w5 so just curious
1st Artifacts are Normal or base (whatever you call it)
Then if you get the same one again its an Ancient
Then if you get the same one a 3rd time, its an Eldritch (only possible after W4 Rift progress)
might need a little more context on what you're asking
With candy I would assume rats is faster and its still probably the easiest you have left
And you also get employment statistics at the same time although that will take quite a bit longer
Im Never Greenstacking Quest Items
As for monster ratings and watches I'm honestly not sure on how those would be with candy. I didnt do either quest on my DK so I got both as a byproduct of statue farming
its ironic to see w5 peeps speaking in w4 chat and w5 chat being, safe to say, dead
Either I'm misinterpreting what thats supposed to mean or that might be one of the dumbest things I've read in a while
Option 2!
Guess ill active 2nd DK some time soon for it then and just finish godric with candy.
Realized i dont have rats avail on this SB
about me checks out
w3/4 does have about double the messages on it daily but it also covers about double the worlds
Don't do Gorge Wajington like that 
are you from asia?
true dat
see ya
thanks for the memories
take care
Sadly, in a few months with w6, that'll be true
looks like we're about 14% of the servers messages, btw
13k messages today, 1800 here
i'm such an idiot, i left my SB on Erruption river afk to get forge bars and pick up the legendary flag achievement. came back to realise - Vman talent wont let you go above 100 flag score >.<
trickz is 1.69% of this server
we had a huge thing yesterday
1.nice
was really fun with Isaac 
You manage to finally defeat mom?
Just same old questions, w5 with 300 cooking speed kinda stuff
ah classic
Someone kept putting giggle emotes on their message so they ended up deleting all their messages with it
really feel the w1-4 channel guides need a big "yes, push to w5, but keep in mind you're coming back afterwards to improve everything"
My issue is, ask for help, im happy to help, but dont ask for help and constantly ignore the feedback
been a week and still missing 3 worship skulls on alts, or 0 samples on some alts
Reminds me of me running slush skull on my dk for a month 
I wonder who was that
slush skull is an oof
I was dumber back then
I didnt pay that much attention to discord so i didnt know better π
80% of idleon gameplay is reading discord I'm afraid
The other 20 is the wiki
It speed up your progrss for sure
lmao is this real life? where was this??
15% is playing while reading discord
Not knowing vs Asking the same question over and over but not listening to the reply is sadly very different
5% is reading the wiki
Thats very true
world6 is gonna be much of the same, just hoping it'll take the pushers a few days to get through w5 π
I kept wondering that myself all night long but it was very real.
some say even now he'll delete a message if you giggle to it but no evidence is ever left behind
the problem with those channels is no one stays there long enough to make decent content. it is mostly trickle down content from us, so people just go ahead and come here right away.
Endgame willl be in the last zone in under 12 hours, calling it
well 99% of their messages are gone xD
until they ended up blocking the emoji people around here and also earlier on: #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
active bubo push would surely be nice
wtf lol
I wonder why the fuck he kept unblocking those people
wait he did?
They have almost 1Q damage and are pushing mental gmush killlrates, they'll absollutely be minimum 10m kph in every zone instantly
oh, actually, just reminded myself.
REMINDER When lava introduces a new world, he lowers the portals of the current world by a bit to make catching up easier
this also lowers your deathnote kills per character by the same amount. Expect to lose the odd eclipse or super chow when the update goes live
made it to the big boy numbers